1987 and 2012 crossover!

[tmntsplinterfan1997]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYztL-L8w1I
We're almost done with the space arc, so who's excited to see the crossover of TMNT 2012 and 1987? :tlol: :lol:

[CyberCubed]

I thought you had new info, hm.

In any case it should be interesting especially with all the old voices reprising their roles and the original Krang returning and meeting Kraang sub-prime.

[Mew]

That's awesome, but could you resize your sig, it's too big!

[Aaronardo]

Excited? It's the only reason I'm still watching this show at this point (barring the spectacle of an episode this morning).
And just before anyone else says it, I think this post would be better off in the stickied Season 4 discussion thread :)

[Powder]

This is old news & your sig is too big.

[IndigoErth]

"The world is so flat I can't even see my own butt." :tlol:

This will be cute.

Side note, the Nicktoons commercials for the Turtles being on in the afternoons has a little blip of "87" Mikey that I've been wondering if it's from this. Or Turtles Forever (since that commercial is collectively TMNT stuff), but doubting it. It does also show "little Mikey" from last week's episode and had been in the same commercial before that ep aired, so... maybe?

[Powder]

Wait, whaaat?! Are you saying there's already finalized animation from this being previewed as a snippet in the general promos?

[Zak The Neutrino]

I'm really looking forward to this!

[IndigoErth]

Wait, whaaat?! Are you saying there's already finalized animation from this being previewed as a snippet in the general promos?
I take it back, I think. Found the commercial online, able to pause it now I realize 2003 Raph is behind Mikey at 0:21 so it's prob a shot from Turtles Forever.

https://youtu.be/XoLLb_U7M8Q

[Allio]

meh, I'm burned out on 87 stuff. it's like trying to get pumped for MMPR-pandering now adays in Power Rangers...just been there, done that.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I take it back, I think. Found the commercial online, able to pause it now I realize 2003 Raph is behind Mikey at 0:21 so it's prob a shot from Turtles Forever.

https://youtu.be/XoLLb_U7M8Q

Yeah, definitely from Turtles Forever. There's even other shots from the film.

What I'm interested in is how they'll pull off the '87 animation style in a 3D world.

[Jephael]

Speaking of Turtles Forever, I'm kinda hoping they make some sorta sly reference to how 4Kids misinterpreted the classic toon.

NICK DON: "A multiverse with countless incarnations of us? Fascinating!"

NICK RAPHAEL: "So have you met any other versions of us?"

1987 DON: "Um no, but from what I learned apparently there were these other two worlds that crossed paths. One was... physically identical to us-"

1987 RAPHAEL: "Yea, but they had the combined IQ of a turnip. Frankly I feel sorry for anybody who thinks we're anything like those jokers!"

[victory_angel]

Speaking of Turtles Forever, I'm kinda hoping they make some sorta sly reference to how 4Kids misinterpreted the classic toon.

NICK DON: "A multiverse with countless incarnations of us? Fascinating!"

NICK RAPHAEL: "So have you met any other versions of us?"

1987 DON: "Um no, but from what I learned apparently there were these other two worlds that crossed paths. One was... physically identical to us-"

1987 RAPHAEL: "Yea, but they had the combined IQ of a turnip. Frankly I feel sorry for anybody who thinks we're anything like those jokers!"

I don't think it would be like that....I think if Turtles Forever is mentioned at all...The OT Turtles would just say they have encountered other worlds where different versions of themselves exist. And leave it at that.

Maybe Mikey would comment about him wondering if there was an alternate universe version of him where he is a super hero.

[Turnstone]

I haven't been keeping up with when this episode is supposed to air. Has a scheduled air date been announced?

[Allio]

Speaking of Turtles Forever, I'm kinda hoping they make some sorta sly reference to how 4Kids misinterpreted the classic toon.

NICK DON: "A multiverse with countless incarnations of us? Fascinating!"

NICK RAPHAEL: "So have you met any other versions of us?"

1987 DON: "Um no, but from what I learned apparently there were these other two worlds that crossed paths. One was... physically identical to us-"

1987 RAPHAEL: "Yea, but they had the combined IQ of a turnip. Frankly I feel sorry for anybody who thinks we're anything like those jokers!"

too salty for my taste.

[Powder]

I haven't been keeping up with when this episode is supposed to air. Has a scheduled air date been announced?

No, but the hour long specials are always mid-season features that air in March. I'd expect the same for this one.

[CyberCubed]

It also doesn't happen till the Turtles get back home from space, and we have another 7 episodes for that. Even longer if we go on another rerun break.

[Jephael]

too salty for my taste.

Well, atleast I didn't use any vulgar language this time.

[neatoman]

Speaking of Turtles Forever, I'm kinda hoping they make some sorta sly reference to how 4Kids misinterpreted the classic toon.

NICK DON: "A multiverse with countless incarnations of us? Fascinating!"

NICK RAPHAEL: "So have you met any other versions of us?"

1987 DON: "Um no, but from what I learned apparently there were these other two worlds that crossed paths. One was... physically identical to us-"

1987 RAPHAEL: "Yea, but they had the combined IQ of a turnip. Frankly I feel sorry for anybody who thinks we're anything like those jokers!"

Ugh... Look, the 80's cartoon might have a lot of nostalgic draw to it but it's not something anyone should even pretend to take seriously. Making fun of it is like making fun the 60's Spider-Man cartoon or Superfriends, it's better to mock a lame cartoon people only love out of nostalgia than prenteding there's any legimate redeeming qualities about it.

[tmntsplinterfan1997]

We're getting close to the end of the space arc. 1987 and 2012 crossover is almost after The Cosmic Ocean.

[matteso586]

I'm surprised that the 2012 Tutles don't remember spotting their 1987 counterparts back in season 2.

[Coola Yagami]

I'm surprised that the 2012 Tutles don't remember spotting their 1987 counterparts back in season 2.

That would require actual continuity and not having plot amnesia.

[tmntsplinterfan1997]

I'm surprised that the 2012 Tutles don't remember spotting their 1987 counterparts back in season 2.

Like in Wormquake / The Manhattan Project?

[matteso586]

Like in Wormquake / The Manhattan Project?

Exactly! Also, something tells me that the trouble 1987 Krang is causing has something to do with the Kraang worm that Donnie, April, and Casey sent.

[Kingoji]

Wasn't that Kraangworm killed when Tigerclaw escaped from it's belly?

[tmntfannumerouno]

That would require actual continuity and not having plot amnesia.
answer ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Wasn't that Kraangworm killed when Tigerclaw escaped from it's belly?

:ohwell:

[Splinter the boss]

What are you guys talking about ? I don't remember any 1987 turtles or krang back in season 2, I'm lost.

[CyberCubed]

What are you guys talking about ? I don't remember any 1987 turtles or krang back in season 2, I'm lost.

They were shown for a few seconds in the episode where Tiger Claw fell into their universe. There was also a small scene at the end of the episode where they all talked, it was done in flash animation.

[Splinter the boss]

They were shown for a few seconds in the episode where Tiger Claw fell into their universe. There was also a small scene at the end of the episode where they all talked, it was done in flash animation.

Alright, I get it. Thank you.

[matteso586]

Looks like Splinter the boss needs to watch The Manhattan Project.

Prediction time! Either 2012 Raph or 2012 Mikey will joke about how 2012 Donnie and 1987 Raphael sound awfully alike. Then they deny it, then say "we sound nothing alike" at the same time. And there will be a flashback detailing the outcome of the 1987 Turtles' battle with Tiger Claw.

[victory_angel]

Well since it was 2012 Donnie who unknowingly sent the Krangworm to that Dimention...the 1987 Turtles might take issue with that.

[Etsyturtle2]

This is already a thread.

[Aaronardo]

I'm surprised that the 2012 Tutles don't remember spotting their 1987 counterparts back in season 2.

They didn't. We saw the '87 Turtles, but the only things from the 2012 dimension that saw the '87 Turtles were the Kraang Worm and Tiger Claw.

[Amaranthus]

They didn't. We saw the '87 Turtles, but the only things from the 2012 dimension that saw the '87 Turtles were the Kraang Worm and Tiger Claw.

The 2012 turtles (and Casey and April) saw their '87 counterparts through that Kraang portal.

[Kingoji]

They saw them in the hall of portals when they were checking out all the different dimensions. Mikey said they looked lame, and Donnie drooled over April's jumpsuit.

[Aaronardo]

Oh, right. Haven't seen some of these older episodes in so long. :lol:

[Jephael]

We're getting close to the end of the space arc. 1987 and 2012 crossover is almost after The Cosmic Ocean.

Where'd you hear that? I was assuming it'd be the 2-part season finale. Of course if that's the case, we won't see it until September.

[Vicky82]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBtETBThXuD/?taken-by=superrobot74

superrobot74Walked into #anarchypost About to mix show #89 .it's a crazy one. #boldlygo #tmnt #teenagemutantninjaturtles #cowabunga #longstrangetrip #nicktmnt

vickytmntfanI'm guessing it's the crossover episode.

superrobot74@vickytmntfan not the crossover.

originalartisticdoodles_byerinDo you all have a special idea for show # 100?

superrobot74@originalartisticdoodles_byerin show 100 is a very special ninja turtles

So cool that Ciro replied to me :D

I still have a feeling the crossover episode is episode 100, which will be episode 22.

[tmntsplinterfan1997]

Oh yes! The 80s turtles will be in Trans-Dimensional Turtles! =D

[Powder]

There is no confirmation of that.

[tmntsplinterfan1997]

There is no confirmation of that.

What do you mean?

[Powder]

I mean there is no confirmation of that. Speculation. A rumor. Is English your second language?

[Vicky82]

What do you mean?

We just got to wait for the episode description to confirm it because some of us don't believe the episode Trans Dimensional Turtles is the crossover episode.

[AlZarkovski]

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[neatoman]

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I said it in the other thread, when rendered in CGI, the Fred Wolf designs are just creepy. I'm actually thankful this won't be more than one episode just because of that.

[Powder]

You're more than entitled to that opinion but it's clear you're just baiting Cybercubed at this point.

[neatoman]

You're more than entitled to that opinion but it's clear you're just baiting Cybercubed at this point.

I'm not baiting anyone, those eyes a genuinely that creepy to look at! It's like whenever the Simpsons are rendered in CGI, when it's 2D you don't think about it but in 3D perfectly circular eyes with small dots for pupils if just off-putting.

[Ninjinister]

I feel 87 turtles look better in 3D than 12 do in 2d.

[neatoman]

This question goes out to anyone who was hoping this was going to be more "respectful" to the Fred Wolf show than Turtles Forever, how do feel about the first full clip shown pretty much pulling the same "FW Turtles try to order pizza in the open" joke as Turtles Forever?

[Technogeek29]

This question goes out to anyone who was hoping this was going to be more "respectful" to the Fred Wolf show than Turtles Forever, how do feel about the first full clip shown pretty much pulling the same "FW Turtles try to order pizza in the open" joke as Turtles Forever?

I hope Leo at least takes offense to the "Real Ninja" jab like he did in Turtles Forever.

[picassotheninjaturtle]

GUYS GUYS http://ca.ign.com/articles/2016/03/07/1980s-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-appearing-on-current-animated-series


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LET THE HYPE BEGINTH. :D

[Autbot_Benz]

GUYS GUYS http://ca.ign.com/articles/2016/03/07/1980s-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-appearing-on-current-animated-series


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LET THE HYPE BEGINTH. :D

we know it was already posted before you showed up

[picassotheninjaturtle]

we know it was already posted before you showed up

*Sigh.....
*Pulls liquor out of pocket

[Ninjinister]

I feel like coffee is more appropriate... Ya need to wake up if you missed the videos right here in the same page already.

[plastroncafe]

And now we'll get to hear the super-fans of the OT complain about how the OT is portrayed badly....again.

Great. That'll be fun.

[oldmanwinters]

I feel 87 turtles look better in 3D than 12 do in 2d.

Dang... 99 turtles!

:tlol:

[TurtleGuy]

In fairness, after season 3 the Turtles did go around in public more often and generally stopped wearing disguises(something I admittedly forgot about during "Turtles Forever"). Hell, they were even able to get jobs in "Splinter Vanishes". Besides, that joke annoyed me the least in the movie.

As long as they aren't portrayed as interchangeable idiots, I'll be happy.

[CyberCubed]

I can't believe they reused the same exact joke from Turtles Forever of the 80's Turtles walking out in public.

[Amaranthus]

i can't believe they reused the same exact joke from turtles forever of the 80's turtles walking out in public.

i can't believe this isn't a two-parter! Boo-hoo!

[TurtleTitan97]

I can't believe they reused the same exact joke from Turtles Forever of the 80's Turtles walking out in public.

You gonna start whining again, you big crybaby? :roll:

[CyberCubed]

I can only hope these models were used for more than one episode. Maybe Season 5 will have another crossover appearance.

[Shred Head]

WTF was up with that 2D animated section and there already doing the same jokes from Turtles Forever. You would think the writers and producers would be smart enough to know that the old fans who will be tuning into this had to have watched Turtles Forever and they would try to avoid old shtick. I'm now not regretting my decision of dumping this show in the second season.

[evan2000]

Here's a super high resolution (4K) version of the poster for those who wants to use it as a wallpaper :tgrin:

http://i.imgur.com/Ri7aswM.jpg

[Jephael]

This question goes out to anyone who was hoping this was going to be more "respectful" to the Fred Wolf show than Turtles Forever, how do feel about the first full clip shown pretty much pulling the same "FW Turtles try to order pizza in the open" joke as Turtles Forever?

There is a difference in how they're going about it this time around. Note how instead of putting the FW TMNT into a net and dragging them across town (like the 4Kids TMNT did), the Nick TMNT actually explain why they keep their identities a secret. The 4Kids TMNT were never good at talking things out, sadly.

[Metalwolf]

WTF was up with that 2D animated section and there already doing the same jokes from Turtles Forever. You would think the writers and producers would be smart enough to know that the old fans who will be tuning into this had to have watched Turtles Forever and they would try to avoid old shtick. I'm now not regretting my decision of dumping this show in the second season.Maybe it's going to decanonize Turtles Forever? Especially if the OT Turtles end up expressing surprise at seeing another group of Turtles.

[Allio]

Maybe it's going to decanonize Turtles Forever? Especially if the OT Turtles end up expressing surprise at seeing another group of Turtles.

going by the one scene we have seen of their first interactions, the 87 turtles don't seem too surprised.

[Turtle-X]

wooo! i am excite!

[CyberCubed]

Its just too bad this is only 22 minutes, it needed to be a 2-part episode to have decent runtime.

[Allio]

I couldn't really care less. I am so burned out on 87 stuff, I just can't care. if it was something like Nick meets Mirage, then we can talk.

[CyberCubed]

I couldn't really care less. I am so burned out on 87 stuff, I just can't care. if it was something like Nick meets Mirage, then we can talk.

It still needed to be a 2 parter.

[biganimefan]

true, it should have been a 2 parter. But at least it's a lot better than the "cameo" that we got a couple years ago

[biganimefan]

I couldn't really care less. I am so burned out on 87 stuff, I just can't care. if it was something like Nick meets Mirage, then we can talk.

Apparently Mirage is going to be getting at least a cameo. Hopefully we'll be getting more but kinda doubt it. At least not yet

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Wow, the 2D animation looks really bad.

Here's a super high resolution (4K) version of the poster for those who wants to use it as a wallpaper :tgrin:

http://i.imgur.com/Ri7aswM.jpg

Cool, did you find it at this resolution or up-res it?

[Powder]

It definitely went through a waifu treatment.

[plastroncafe]

Wow, the 2D animation looks really bad.

Yeah, I was thinking that too. Less so the Nick Turts, whose simple line design works with 2-D as well as 3-D, but...wow the OT designs are jarring.

I like them when they get to the 3-D world, until I get to their eyes. There's something unsettling about their eyes, and I can't put my finger on what.

[TurtleTitan97]

Wow, the 2D animation looks really bad.

Perhaps it's suppose to be intentional as a joke? I mean the animation in the 80's show wasn't all that perfect in various episodes. Or am I reaching too much?

[Allio]

It still needed to be a 2 parter.

still wouldn't make things interesting for me.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

It looks like they made it in Flash and didn't even try. If you're going to do an OT crossover, shouldn't you at least make it clear that this is the OT visually?

[neatoman]

Yeah, I was thinking that too. Less so the Nick Turts, whose simple line design works with 2-D as well as 3-D, but...wow the OT designs are jarring.

I like them when they get to the 3-D world, until I get to their eyes. There's something unsettling about their eyes, and I can't put my finger on what.

Thank god someone is agreeing with me, I think the main reason is that they are perfect circles with tiny pupils lacking iris. It looks fine in 2D but it doesn't work in 3D.
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[plastroncafe]

Good god that's unnerving....

[Utrommaniac]

So, with the next IDW issue being released on the 23rd, this on the 27th, and the Deviations issue after that...the end of March is going to be a pretty fun time for TMNT stuff.

[SKX31]

Yeah, I was thinking that too. Less so the Nick Turts, whose simple line design works with 2-D as well as 3-D, but...wow the OT designs are jarring.

I like them when they get to the 3-D world, until I get to their eyes. There's something unsettling about their eyes, and I can't put my finger on what.

I'm also getting that, but I think it's because they look plastered on their bandanas. Especially on 87 Don, but that might be the angle that makes it more apparent / throws me off. Also, I'm not super-sold out on how the eyebrows look in 3D, but that's just me.

And really, the 87 production crew had absolutely no way of knowing, at the time, that their creations were going to be converted into 3D by a much later crew. Hell, 3D animation was a bit off the mainstream and still at the experimental phase at the time (warning, linked vid is long). (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL0RH3x7Zzo) Some attempts had been made, but 3D only started to truly break into the mainstream with stuff like Toy Story and Beast Wars - a decade-ish off at that point.

As the dinosaur mini-film (or whatever, don't know which term to use) proved, however, the Nick crew have shown that their models can be done both ways.

[Metalwolf]

going by the one scene we have seen of their first interactions, the 87 turtles don't seem too surprised.Ah. I wasn't able to watch the video since I'm on a library computer and don't have any headphones. Are you sure it might not be simply because they battled Tigerclaw previously and thus might have learned something (either through his comments during battle or through 87!Donnie's research) that he came from another dimension with it's own Turtles? After fighting somebody like that, who appeared just how he did, you know Donnie's gonna do some snooping and machine fiddling to find out where that guy came from.

I couldn't really care less. I am so burned out on 87 stuff, I just can't care. if it was something like Nick meets Mirage, then we can talk.I think Nick is wanking that show hard just so it can draw in (and please) the hardcore 87 fans. It wouldn't be so bad if Nick homaged it once or twice, but even I (an 87 fan myself) would want some variety after that. I have a feeling that this won't even be the last one, and that in a year's time there will be another 80's crossover, and then another one every season thereafter.

[Konchadunga]

In fairness, after season 3 the Turtles did go around in public more often and generally stopped wearing disguises(something I admittedly forgot about during "Turtles Forever"). Hell, they were even able to get jobs in "Splinter Vanishes". Besides, that joke annoyed me the least in the movie.

As long as they aren't portrayed as interchangeable idiots, I'll be happy.

In slight defense of Turtles Forever, it wasn't the first adaptation to apply the memetic characteristics of Fred Wolf Michelangelo to all four turtles; turning them all into pizza-obsessed, never-serious, surfer-lingoed goofballs. The original live-action movies were also pretty guilty of that, and in a way they were even more irritating than TF, since they had villains who were written dead-serious but nonetheless paused their antics to allow the Turtles to goof-off for long periods.

So arguably, the TF writers were trying to give viewers a lot of what they wanted to see. However, when you examine it in detail, it's just a badly-written movie even independent of how it wrote the Fred Wolf turtles. Part of it is that the 4Kids writers never really nailed comedy, and certainly condensing Fred Wolf goofiness into concentrated form on their Michelangelo just wound up really obnoxious a lot of the time, so obviously multiplying that by five would start to grate. But beyond that, the rules governing the movie are never consistent. One moment everyone from Fred Wolf's a hapless idiot who can't seem to accomplish anything of note, then the next somehow a technological feature in the Technodrome somehow Google-searches the whole 4Kids universe for Ch'rel and instantly warps him in from lightyears out. One moment Karai is belitting the technology of Dimension X, and then Ch'rel gets obsessed with mutagen as a vital tool. (He's an Utrom; how could he have not heard of it before?) One moment, Fred Wolf Donatello can make a dimensional warp stick out of a flashlight, and the next moment the lasers he built out of parts from Stockman's lab can't even harm mutants. One minute, Krang in his giant body can't offer any fight to Ch'rel, and the next moment somehow tiny explosive throwing stars hurt him.

All things considered, the movie's biggest *****lap might actually be to the 4Kids Turtles show, whose worldbuilding was at one point its big strength, and it just feels hypocritical to mock the stupidity of the Fred Wolf universe when you've applied that stupidity to your own universe in full-force. Ironically the same "swallow your pride, forget our plot is idiotic and just marvel at grandeur and laugh at gags" mentality that drove so much of Fred Wolf fandom is probably at the core of why most people still enjoy Turtles Forever, too, because it certainly isn't because it's high art.

[Mewzard]

The mention in the video IGN did about the Mirage World made me think of some sort of Take Two on Turtles Forever.

Either way, it should be interesting to see how it goes (if they do go Mirage, I hope they get a decent animation studio to do it, because jeez, that 80s-verse animation was not that good).

[Metalwolf]

@ Konchadunga-


{sarcasm on}But, but, but you can't bash the TF movie because it contains the 87 Turtles! What about your childhood, man? What about the nostalgia feels? Do you want the writers to think we don't caaaare about the 87 Turtles, do you? Because then we won't get another 87 moment crossover like this again, and I need to feel like a kid again dammit! The presence of the 87 Turtles erases everything bad about the movie. Erases, I tell you! It's perfection that can't be approached, it's awesomeness in even giving me a tiny glimpse of the holy 87 Turtles is like a balm to my highly fevered mind, surpassing everything simply because wank wank wank....

{Sarcasm off}

But yeah, I agree, the movie is a piece of crap. Nowadays they could do a better crossover, or even do a standalone 87 movie that focuses on them alone and that could make them look awesome and even better, but people want to hang onto the TF movie simply because it contains the 87 Turtles and a canon loophole that allows 87 fans to endlessly bring them back, even on newer TMNT shows. Otherwise people would dump that movie like a steaming turd.

[plastroncafe]

The version of the 87 Toon that you see in Turtles Forever is what the general population remembers of the 87 Toon.

The very same people who make it possible for fans of the 87 Toon to go on and on about how it's the definitive version of the characters. Like it or not, that's what the average person remembers about that cartoon.

To that effect, Turtles Forever got them dead to rights.
(I unironically love that movie)

[Aaronardo]

Oh, stop whining about Turtles Forever, ya ungrateful pukes. If you were to take one look at the show you so undoubtedly love today when it was in its most famous seasons, you wouldn't be complaining. You'd be complimenting this and TF for how accurate they are (though, okay, on occasion TF would go a tad too far. Still love that movie though).

What are you even complaining about? The storyboard we saw at SDCC clearly showed the OT Turtles had just held up well in a fight against the Nick Turtles just seconds before this scene. And you're complaining about one line of dialogue from RAPH, even though that's the first time since season 2 I've seen him actually in-character? Oh, please.

[CyberCubed]

Plus in Turtles Forever the OT Turtles still held their own against the Purple Dragons and Foot once they got free.

[TurtleGuy]

Oh, stop whining about Turtles Forever, ya ungrateful pukes. If you were to take one look at the show you so undoubtedly love today when it was in its most famous seasons, you wouldn't be complaining. You'd be complimenting this and TF for how accurate they are (though, okay, on occasion TF would go a tad too far. Still love that movie though).

Yeah, calling anyone who dare criticizes TF ungrateful pukes... That's gonna make them stop...

:trolleye:

And for your information, I HAVE rewatched the series on DVD up to season 4 and I find the portrayal in TF was about as accurate as a Stormtrooper playing laser tag. So far the Nick crew has done a better job.

[Aaronardo]

Yeah, calling anyone who dare criticizes TF ungrateful pukes... That's gonna make them stop...

:trolleye:

Not trying to make them stop. Just treating them like the whiny p*ssies they're currently acting like.

And for your information, I HAVE rewatched the series on DVD up to season 4 and I find the portrayal in TF was about as accurate as a Stormtrooper playing laser tag.

You're not going far enough. At least they actually used their weapons in seasons 1-2. Try when the show was in its prime in popularity (Seasons 3-6). The fight scenes are literally cartoon slapstick and they have no purpose for having a secret lair.

[TurtleGuy]

Not trying to make them stop. Just treating them like the whiny p*ssies they're currently acting like.



You're not going far enough. At least they actually used their weapons in seasons 1-2. Try when the show was in its prime in popularity (Seasons 3-6). The fight scenes are literally cartoon slapstick and they have no purpose for having a secret lair.
Not all the fight scenes were slapstick, just a majority of them. There were still a few occasional instances where they used their weapons in direct combat(albeit few and far between). This actually surprised me in certain episodes past season 2.

[Aaronardo]

Not all the fight scenes were slapstick, just a majority of them. There were still a few occasional instances where they used their weapons in direct combat(albeit few and far between). This actually surprised me in certain episodes past season 2.

I remember one early Season 3 episode with an actually impressively animated (for the OT) between Leo and Shredder. It was looped a bunch of times, but you get the idea. That's still the only time I can really recall. There were at least three fights post-Season 2 that took place in a bubblegum factory.
You just can't make this sh*t up.

[Konchadunga]

The version of the 87 Toon that you see in Turtles Forever is what the general population remembers of the 87 Toon.

The very same people who make it possible for fans of the 87 Toon to go on and on about how it's the definitive version of the characters. Like it or not, that's what the average person remembers about that cartoon.

To that effect, Turtles Forever got them dead to rights.
(I unironically love that movie)

In terms of pizza obsession? Yes. Surfer lingo? Yes. Fourth-wall breaking? Yes. But I can't think of any fans of Fred Wolf who wanted those turtles to be STUPID AND WIMPY. The bit with them resorting more to slapstick than actual fighting was accurate enough, but the Fred Wolf turtles would not be alternately oblivious to danger and breaking down and crying from it. (There's another contradiction.)

For that matter, this, too, can be tied to Michelangelo, the inspiration for all that wackiness, and how he's treated--I can't think of any fans declaring that they wanted him to become the idiot of the team; the way he has both in 2003 & 2012. It's possible for a good writer to write a comical and fun-loving character without making him stupid, obnoxious and a burden on his teammates.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah, no.

This thread needs to be locked now. We can discuss the crossover in the official info thread.

[plastroncafe]

In terms of pizza obsession? Yes. Surfer lingo? Yes. Fourth-wall breaking? Yes. But I can't think of any fans of Fred Wolf who wanted those turtles to be STUPID AND WIMPY. The bit with them resorting more to slapstick than actual fighting was accurate enough, but the Fred Wolf turtles would not be alternately oblivious to danger and breaking down and crying from it. (There's another contradiction.)

For that matter, this, too, can be tied to Michelangelo, the inspiration for all that wackiness, and how he's treated--I can't think of any fans declaring that they wanted him to become the idiot of the team; the way he has both in 2003 & 2012. It's possible for a good writer to write a comical and fun-loving character without making him stupid, obnoxious and a burden on his teammates.

You're confusing fans of the 87 Toon with Everyone Else Who Watched It As A Kid. Fans of the 87 Toon might not remember the show that way, but everyone else does.

And yeah...Poor Mikey. Always the incompetent comic relief.
The good-guy version of Bebop and Rocksteady.

[ranger_scout]

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http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2016/03/TN_S4ep410Promo_Color_CMYK_paint01-2.jpg

I cannot tell you all how much it means to me to once again hear four guys voice such iconic characters of my childhood all of these year later. :D

[sdp]

Everything from that clip is indeed copied from Turtles Forever and not only the ones mentioned before but I didn't see mention Raph pointing out OT Don's tech makes no sense and they're also visiting the Mirage turtles based on the IGN clip? wow. Now I would like to think the writers at least watched Turtles Forever, you know the first crossover movie and its only 90 minutes so I think its only a coincidence that the people in marketing chose to release this clip who know no better and the writers would have chosen something they knew was real. I mean I don't expect them to watch all of the OT or even a large chunk, just a few episodes to "know" the characters but if they couldn't even be arsed to watch a 90minute movie then we can expect this to be Turtles Forever but without the stakes or redeeming features.


As far as the clip, the 2D looks terrible and I hope its better on the show and it was just some bad angles. Their 30 second cameo in the second season while you could tell was flash was still a pretty good recreation. The 3D models look bad but I do think it has to do with the designs not lending themselves to 3D very well, mostly because I also think the Figuarts fiugres coming out soon also look odd. Still I've seen plenty of CG renderings of the OT turtles online for many years and even the figuarts don't look as odd so I do think they could've done a better job. Ironic that Turtles Forever has them looking perfect but they don't sound like the OT and here they sound like their OT selves yet they don't look like it. Shame that this is only one episode, I remembered reading that it was a two parter with one having them in 2D and the second in 3D.


Now to tackle the controversy of the OT turtles I think we need to wait and see before we criticize how the Nick show used them and I've always been very vocal about Turtles Forever totally screwing up the turtles. This clip doesn't show that, a few jabs at the OT's silliness is fine, Turtles forever just went overboard and treated them as only a gag and they didn't poke fun as much as they were mean spirited gags to prove a point "look how stupid the original show was" even though the turtles were nothing like that in the OT even at their silliest. We just have to wait and see, however the 30 second cameo they had in Wormquake already showed them in much better light tha the whole 90 minute movie did so I'm hopeful.

[Shark_Blade]

I love this!!! I love ot turtles (season 1)!!!

My body is ready!!! :tlove: Shoutout to OT!!

[Zak The Neutrino]

I'm really looking forward this! I didn't think we would see this episode for awhile yet.

What if Nick trashes Mirage turtles in this? How many people would lose their minds?

[Wildcat]

Looks cool. So are they actually going to have the mirage turtles or just a comic style environment as a nod?

[Technogeek29]

Looks cool. So are they actually going to have the mirage turtles or just a comic style environment as a nod?

@Wildcat

Ever swap out "Toot toot Sonic Warrior" for instead saying "Super Sonic Warrior"

[M.A.C.O.]

I'm excited for this. I need to catch up with TMNT 2012. Another crossover! Hopefully it does better than Turtles Forever did.

[Wildcat]

@Wildcat

Ever swap out "Toot toot Sonic Warrior" for instead saying "Super Sonic Warrior"Like what do you mean? In the song? Super Sonic Warrior does sound better.

I just put that part of the lyrics in my sig because I always liked the quote.

[Bry]

I already see it doing a few of the same things Turtles Forever did -- the 2012 Turtles looking stunned by how little sense the '87 technology makes, and the '87 Turtles trying to race off into public to get pizza. Curious to see if they make further jokes at the '87 show's expense. And if some Fred Wolf fans get as upset about this as they did about TF. :trazz:

I kind of hope this is addressed, even. A brief "Hey, didn't we do something like this once before?"; "Who can remember what we get up to week to week?" kind of exchange, even.

So yeah, this looks fun. TF did a better job of the '87 animation, but I feel like the new show uses some cheaper/simpler digital animation for the 2D stuff that just doesn't hold up to full/traditional animation. Good enough. And the '87 Turtles look... just a bit off in 3D, but I imagine that's also intentional.

I know it's just one episode. But if they're going to the well, and they're gonna have some cameo/reference to Mirage, then a wider glimpse at the multiverse would be pretty damn neat.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I already see it doing a few of the same things Turtles Forever did -- the 2012 Turtles looking stunned by how little sense the '87 technology makes, and the '87 Turtles trying to race off into public to get pizza. Curious to see if they make further jokes at the '87 show's expense. And if some Fred Wolf fans get as upset about this as they did about TF. :trazz:

I kind of hope this is addressed, even. A brief "Hey, didn't we do something like this once before?"; "Who can remember what we get up to week to week?" kind of exchange, even.

So yeah, this looks fun. TF did a better job of the '87 animation, but I feel like the new show uses some cheaper/simpler digital animation for the 2D stuff that just doesn't hold up to full/traditional animation. Good enough. And the '87 Turtles look... just a bit off in 3D, but I imagine that's also intentional.

I know it's just one episode. But if they're going to the well, and they're gonna have some cameo/reference to Mirage, then a wider glimpse at the multiverse would be pretty damn neat.

I wouldn't put it past them if this ends up being Turtles Forever 2.:lol:

It's funny that you say the 87 turtles look off because everywhere I go, people are saying that they look better than the 2012 turtles do in 3D and I'm like.....:teek:.

The 2D animation looks even worse than the animation from the "Worm-quake" episodes. Also not really digging the Nick turtles designs in the OT universe. Not asking for them to look like the Animated Adventures comic but I'm just not impressed with how they look. Not exactly terrible, just a little lazy. Now as far as the 87 turtles look in the Nick universe, I actually think it's pretty hilarious how they look slightly taller than their counterparts. From their eyes to their pudgy designs, I sort of get a "Homer^3" vibe from the Simpsons Treehouse of Horror episode.

[magidkaiser]

can't wait for this episode :trazz:I'm excited :twink:

[TurtleFan2012]

I wouldn't put it past them if this ends up being Turtles Forever 2.:lol:

It's funny that you say the 87 turtles look off because everywhere I go, people are saying that they look better than the 2012 turtles do in 3D and I'm like.....:teek:.

The 2D animation looks even worse than the animation from the "Worm-quake" episodes. Also not really digging the Nick turtles designs in the OT universe. Not asking for them to look like the Animated Adventures comic but I'm just not impressed with how they look. Not exactly terrible, just a little lazy. Now as far as the 87 turtles look in the Nick universe, I actually think it's pretty hilarious how they look slightly taller than their counterparts. From their eyes to their pudgy designs, I sort of get a "Homer^3" vibe from the Simpsons Treehouse of Horror episode.

I too notice the 2D designs for the 1987 turtles look different compare to their look in "Worm-quake". Maybe it's an in-joke. The old toon had different animators working on the episodes. Sometimes the turtles look rubbery.

[Technogeek29]

Like what do you mean? In the song? Super Sonic Warrior does sound better.

I just put that part of the lyrics in my sig because I always liked the quote.

Yeah that's what I meant.

[evan2000]

Here's a new gif from the TMNT Facebook page:

http://i.imgur.com/aXXsm2J.gif

[AlZarkovski]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdMkk7uWoAAU3II.jpg

[neatoman]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdMkk7uWoAAU3II.jpg

Look at Mikey, he looks dead inside...

[Vicky82]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdMkk7uWoAAU3II.jpg

Cool :D

80s Mikey looks stoned :lol:

[plastroncafe]

So if nothing else, it's accurate.

:D?

[neatoman]

So if nothing else, it's accurate.

:D?

But he was against drugs.
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[cookie jar]

New sneak peek for the crossover episode you can see here (http://zap2it.com/2016/03/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-wondercon-nickelodeon-trans-dimensional-turtles/#)

[plastroncafe]

But he was against drugs.
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Mike strikes me as a, "Do as I say, not as I do," kind of guy.

[neatoman]

New sneak peek for the crossover episode you can see here (http://zap2it.com/2016/03/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-wondercon-nickelodeon-trans-dimensional-turtles/#)

..... Yeah, this is pretty much going to treat the FW Turtles the same way as Turtles Forever, brace yourselves for yet another **** storm over how some poorly aged cartoon from the late 80's was **** upon by a reboot.... :ohwell:

The episode might be funny but I don't want to deal with even more idiotic arguments over wheter or not treating a goofy cartoon like it's goofy was a fair depiction...

[Vicky82]

New sneak peek for the crossover episode you can see here (http://zap2it.com/2016/03/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-wondercon-nickelodeon-trans-dimensional-turtles/#)

Awesome :D

[Amaranthus]

Raph totally HowToBasic'd that Kraang in the end.

[Zak The Neutrino]

..... Yeah, this is pretty much going to treat the FW Turtles the same way as Turtles Forever, brace yourselves for yet another **** storm over how some poorly aged cartoon from the late 80's was **** upon by a reboot.... :ohwell:

The episode might be funny but I don't want to deal with even more idiotic arguments over wheter or not treating a goofy cartoon like it's goofy was a fair depiction...

I really hope they do 2k3 or Mirage and mock the hell out of them. Then the OT fans can complain about your complaining like the rest. :o

[matteso586]

Prediction time!

* The 1987 Turtles calling Subprime's suit a sellout. As a joke to our reaction to The Invasion's reveal.
* If we see the past Muckman as a silent cameo, one of the 1987 Turtles will comment about how he looks more grotesque than their Muckman.
* Callbacks to Wormquake, The Wrath of Tiger Claw, and War for Dimension X.
* Maybe a revelation to how Subprime kept surviving. Annihilation Earth doesn't count, due to being in the future.
* 1987 Krang demanding Subprime to give him a body, since his Shredder kept neglecting to give him one.
* One of the Turtles commenting how 1987 Raphael and 2012 Donatello sound awfully alike. Causing both of them to way "we sound nothing alike" at the same time.

[Ninturtle]

New Clip!
http://zap2it.com/2016/03/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-wondercon-nickelodeon-trans-dimensional-turtles/

[Spike Spiegel]

New Clip!
http://zap2it.com/2016/03/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-wondercon-nickelodeon-trans-dimensional-turtles/

Interesting way to reference the opening theme song to the old show.

[TurtleGuy]

I was one of those disappointed at how Turtles Forever treated the FW turtles and upon seeing that clip I'm... Still stoked for this episode. That reference to the original show's title was hilarious! So even if they do mostly treat the old show a joke, at least the jokes at their expense will be funny instead of mostly groan worthy(like in TF) :tgrin:

It also looks like there might be a rivalry between the Raphs, something I wanted to see in Turtles Forever but didn't get...

[LeotheLateBloomer]

We should probably wait until this episode is released before we claim this to be "Turtles Forever 2".

[TurtleFan2012]

Please don't make the 80s turtles cry, writers. :ohwell:
Also, no attack of the noogies! Ugh!

(flashes back to the TF movie)

NOOOOOOO!

[TurtleTitan97]

New Clip!
http://zap2it.com/2016/03/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-wondercon-nickelodeon-trans-dimensional-turtles/

That clip was pure genius. Man I love Rob Paulsen Raphael. :D

[Ninjinister]

I really hope they do 2k3 or Mirage and mock the hell out of them. Then the OT fans can complain about your complaining like the rest. :o

That's petty as hell.

[Powder]

Expect nothing less from FW fanboys.

[Autbot_Benz]

FW fanboys get so salty.

[TurtleGuy]

Yes, that response is indeed petty, but neatoman doesn't need to keep on going "OMG the FW fanboys are coming" every time they post a new clip. That's borderline baiting.

[Powder]

I'll definitely give you that, he's had a chip on his shoulder toward the series lately for whatever reason. :trazz:

[sdp]

That clip shows how to do the OT turtles, they were wacky and you can make fun of that. While they are definitely focusing on the sillyness and emphasising that more than the OT they aren't portraying them as total idiots which is what Turtles Forever did. The turtles 3D models do look a lot better here as well, it might be the angle when they look really bad.

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

Yes! Anyone else going to Wondercon? I'm so excited!

[Commenter 42]

The writing is great - but those 80's models...Ouch. That's non-plus.

[Utrommaniac]

Krang working with the Kraang. Good enough for me.
I was actually thinking that would have happened. And especially thinking that he would have found the two that got sucked into his dimension with the Kraathatrogon.

But yeah, 3D does not do very kindly to the FW Turtles, at least not well here. They look half-finished. And the 2D animation on the Nick Turtles could be better too. Again, something like how the comics had done them. The Flash animation wouldn't be such a problem if the lines weren't so broad, and maybe if the colors had a little less saturation.

[Commenter 42]

Who's the guy here that draws the 80's turtles flawlessly? I forget - he had a thread of ridiculously exacting FW tmnt.

Him. They should've asked him, at least for the flash.

[Ninturtle]

Who's the guy here that draws the 80's turtles flawlessly? I forget - he had a thread of ridiculously exacting FW tmnt.

Him. They should've asked him, at least for the flash.

That's dude, and I see no problem with the FW models but the flash is weak.

[Commenter 42]

That's dude, and I see no problem with the FW models but the flash is weak.

Lol, both are WEAK...seriously... those eyes...c'mon now :D

[sdp]

The 2D looking bad is their fault, in wormquake they looked great even though you could tell it was flash also some people here mentioned the Nick turtles didn't transition very well to 2D and that couldn't be more wrong, they look great in 2D as seen in artwork and the comics; The animation is just bad.

[Ninturtle]

Lol, both are WEAK...seriously... those eyes...c'mon now :D

The eyes don't bother me, they look just like the tlon, and the eyes are often expressive so they work well.

[Ninturtle]

The 2-D looks better in this gif
http://giphy.com/gifs/tmnt-ninja-turtles-cowabunga-3otO6F3VHTJfbH6MEM

[Refractive Reflections]

So is this finally going to be the last crossover/appearance of the 80s Turtles, or is there another expected down the line for this series?

...Won't be surprised if there might be another near the finale, considering how far the series/franchise has milked the nostalgia.

[neatoman]

The 2-D looks better in this gif
http://giphy.com/gifs/tmnt-ninja-turtles-cowabunga-3otO6F3VHTJfbH6MEM

Yeah, because you expect a lower frame rate in a gif.

[Chabrendeki]

I'm really looking forward this! I didn't think we would see this episode for awhile yet.

What if Nick trashes Mirage turtles in this? How many people would lose their minds?

Additionally, in another dimensional twist, the episode will offer a glimpse of the Turtles in a comic book world resembling Kevin Eastman’s Mirage Studios comic book series.
Source: http://www.ninjapizza.net/2016/03/classic-modern-ninja-turtles-to-meet-in.html

https://media.giphy.com/media/3otO6F3VHTJfbH6MEM/giphy.gif

[Chabrendeki]

The most epic twist would be, if the 87-Turtles would make a reference on "Turtles Forever"... like they remebered on the 2003-Turtles and now they met the 2012-Turtles...

[Utrommaniac]

Yeah, that lower frame rate looks miles better than what we actually have.

[Ninturtle]

Yeah, because you expect a lower frame rate in a gif.

Nah, it just looks like it's drawn better.

[Lisardo]

I can't believe they reused the same exact joke from Turtles Forever of the 80's Turtles walking out in public.

Yeah that annoyed me too. Silly as the OT turtles were, they weren't that casual about walking around un-disguised, esp. in the earlier seasons! And you're right, I was thinking the same thing - about how it's the same mock "Turtles Forever" made.

I too notice the 2D designs for the 1987 turtles look different compare to their look in "Worm-quake". Maybe it's an in-joke. The old toon had different animators working on the episodes. Sometimes the turtles look rubbery.

I noticed this as well. They don't have the line down their noses as they did at the end of the Wormquake episode (which was obviously an homage to Toei Animation, who originally [beautifully] animated the 5-part pilot that is season 1. Instead they look more bubbly as they did in later seasons, like season 4. And the 3d looks even more bubbly.

The 2D looking bad is their fault, in wormquake they looked great even though you could tell it was flash also some people here mentioned the Nick turtles didn't transition very well to 2D and that couldn't be more wrong, they look great in 2D as seen in artwork and the comics; The animation is just bad.

Yeah, the OT turtles did look rather Flash-y in their cameo at the end of Wormquake. But I liked the art style.

[OrangeNinja1987]

Yeah that annoyed me too. Silly as the OT turtles were, they weren't that casual about walking around un-disguised, esp. in the earlier seasons! And you're right, I was thinking the same thing - about how it's the same mock "Turtles Forever" made.

I distinctly remember a moment in the 5-episode pilot where they ran into the middle of the street next to a man without the slightest hesitation. You can't say the joke isn't valid, because no matter the season, they do it at least once. And with just a trench coat on (which was the usual disguise when not using masks), it's just as useful to them as not wearing it.

[oldmanwinters]

First I've seen of this clip of the 2D Krang battle!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2DSMKs0Jko

EDIT: Looks like it was already posted in the Season 4 thread!

[Utrommaniac]

Ow...that animation hurts. That's really what the people think the quality of the FW cartoon is like. But even that is so much better.

It really is interesting seeing Krang take on the turtles on his own, though. He's only done that...once? And they remembered that his suit has wings, too!

[oldmanwinters]

Ow...that animation hurts. That's really what the people think the quality of the FW cartoon is like. But even that is so much better.

It really is interesting seeing Krang take on the turtles on his own, though. He's only done that...once? And they remembered that his suit has wings, too!

For some odd reason, it grows on me. The only thing that seems intentionally bad is when Leonardo tries to spar with Krang one-on-one. It's almost like the Nick animators were trying to make fun of the non-contact nature of fighting in 80s and 90s cartoons.

[Fang Wolf]

I hope we get to see both 1987 and 2012 Shredders in this?
But I look forward to see this.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

https://twitter.com/yakkopinky/statu...16178367008768

Looks like the 1987 shredder will be appearing in this episode, and he will be voiced by the Nick Shredder's voice actor.

[Fang Wolf]

https://twitter.com/yakkopinky/statu...16178367008768

Looks like the 1987 shredder will be appearing in this episode, and he will be voiced by the Nick Shredder's voice actors.

And link not work...:ohwell:

[FredWolfLeonardo]

https://twitter.com/yakkopinky/status/712316178367008768

Does it work now?

[Fang Wolf]

https://twitter.com/yakkopinky/status/712316178367008768

Does it work now?

Yes, Now it work. :)
Cool at Kevin Michael Richardson will be voice to 1987 Shredder. ;)

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I'm really happy that 1987 Bebop and Rocksteady will be appearing as well :)

[TheSkeletonMan939]

People say Turtles Forever made the '87 turtles look bad, but I think this is much worse. I mean, they didn't even try to make the designs look appealing. The designs! They're even making fun of the animation! Yeah, Nick, like yours is much better in the grand scheme of things.

They've finally been able to do something Turtles Forever couldn't do - really bring back the cast from the original show and bring them to the screen one last time! - but it's a wasted effort, in my opinion. This is two times now the OT turtles have been resurrected and subsequently botched. Is it really so hard to rent the season 1 DVD of the show and take notes?

[Jephael]

They've finally been able to do something Turtles Forever couldn't do - really bring back the cast from the original show and bring them to the screen one last time!

Um, who says it's the last time they're ever gonna show up? There's speculation going around that they'll be back next season, along with Shredder, Rocksteady and Bebop. Why not wait until this episode airs to see what unfolds.

[Powder]

People say Turtles Forever made the '87 turtles look bad, but I think this is much worse. I mean, they didn't even try to make the designs look appealing. The designs! They're even making fun of the animation! Yeah, Nick, like yours is much better in the grand scheme of things.

They've finally been able to do something Turtles Forever couldn't do - really bring back the cast from the original show and bring them to the screen one last time! - but it's a wasted effort, in my opinion. This is two times now the OT turtles have been resurrected and subsequently botched. Is it really so hard to rent the season 1 DVD of the show and take notes?

The Nick designs are better, though. :tlol:

I dunno man, it's just harmless fun. Y'all take the OT way too seriously.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Um, who says it's the last time they're ever gonna show up? There's speculation going around that they'll be back next season, along with Shredder, Rocksteady and Bebop.

My point is that there'll be a time when something like this just won't be possible anymore. You'd think they'd be jumping at this chance to do something really special with the OT segment, with the original cast back. Not just use some quick Flash animations and call it a day.

For comparison, I hear Adam West is getting all sorts of Batman projects to do in his old age.

I dunno man, it's just harmless fun. Y'all take the OT way too seriously.

I have little to no love for the OT, but I feel that if you're going to bring back characters from an old show, at least try to have some respect for it.
Maybe I am taking it too seriously. :P It's just a cartoon.

[Powder]

The character's seem on point personality-wise, they've gotten the original voice cast, done their best to mimic FW set design, loaded it up with references, there's plenty of respect there. The animation does leave a LOT to be desired, but I imagine they had no other option (for budgetary reasons, presumably) so I don't really think it's a slight to have limited frame-work & stuff.

[GoldMutant]

Only main problem I have with the flash animation is primarily the fight scene shown with Krang, it doesn't flow well for my personal tastes. That, and a minor complaint mostly is the 2012 Turtles don't translate well at least skin wise, primarily Donatello. Minor complaint with the 2012 designs, but outside the style it is really promising.

For what it's set to be, Transdimensional Turtles is the first time in a long while I've felt hyped since beginning the series. Pat Fraley still has the chops as Krang and everyone else is almost like a fine wine, practically no difference in voices since the last time they voiced themselves, well except Barry Gordon as Donatello, he's aged quite a bit voice wise. Then again, I'm just nitpicking. :P The previews have made me smile a lot more than I normally do, so that's a bonus for me personally. :) Easter is going to be one fun time this year, I can feel it.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

The animation does leave a LOT to be desired, but I imagine they had no other option (for budgetary reasons, presumably) so I don't really think it's a slight to have limited frame-work & stuff.

I figured that mimicking 30 year-old animation might be easy for today's technology, but you're probably right.
I've never found Nick's CGI animation to be impressive either, which also probably stems from a limited budget.

[TurtleGuy]

I have no complaints. The personalities are pretty spot on and the fight scene does seem like your typical FW fight scene for the most part minus the punny banter(I imagine something along the lines of "You need to cool off" "Have a nice trip, Krang").

I also like how the battle music is a cool sounding rock expy of the original series battle theme. A huge step above that lame goofy song Turtles Forever used.

I can't wait for Sunday.

[neatoman]

Well considering this show only had the budget to make one alley set despite the fact that the show is meant to be set in New York, it's not that odd it's attempt at 2D animation looks dreadful. But the sad part is that I've seen better flash animation in Youtube videos, it's really bad when a maximum of ten minutes for an actual TV show looks like this. If the point was to mimic the low standard animation of 1988-1992, then why didn't they just add a grain filter to make that clear?

[Metalwolf]

I'm wondering, would anybody be upset if none of the Turtles make any references to Turtles Forever? That is always a possibility, especially since this crossover has the possibilty of rewriting any crossover 'canon.'

[Powder]

I'm wondering, would anybody be upset if

Someone will always be upset, no matter what comes after "if", the answer is yes forever. :tlol:

In all seriousness, while I'd like to see them mention the events of TF, I doubt they will, for fear of muddying up continuities or whatever. Maybe they'll throw in a slight nod with no consequence, though.

[Bry]

I'm wondering, would anybody be upset if none of the Turtles make any references to Turtles Forever? That is always a possibility, especially since this crossover has the possibilty of rewriting any crossover 'canon.'

Ehh, once you've established a multiverse, "crossover canon" becomes kind of meaningless.

I'm hoping the '87 Turtles will be unfazed about discovering an alternate reality, at least. But it's a single episode, so I'm not expecting them to spend too much screentime on references.

[Powder]

It's interesting that once again IDW/Nick seem to have similar stuff going on, what with them both doing Multi-verse stories now.

[Ninjinister]

It's interesting that once again IDW/Nick seem to have similar stuff going on, what with them both doing Multi-verse stories now.

I'm lovin' it. The only thing I wanted to see out of the things that came out of the Nick purchase outside of "make it entertaining" was "respect the multiverse".

[sdp]

I've always loved the idea of multiverse crossovers in general, in fact I made a thread about this ten years ago in this very forum called "Crisis on infinite Shells (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=17478)". Little did I know that this would actually become canon and we'd be getting crossovers.

What exactly is IDW doing with multiverse stories?

[Powder]

Well, in a book from last year where the turtles met Renet, some folks felt there were hints to suggest she was the same Renet from Mirage. That aside, a new Bebop & Rocksteady series is coming out in which both time & dimensional travel are a theme. Renet & Savanti are involved, & one preview shows Mirage turtles in a possible flashback sequence, to say the least.

[marcelangelo]

Well, in a book from last year where the turtles met Renet, some folks felt there were hints to suggest she was the same Renet from Mirage. That aside, a new Bebop & Rocksteady series is coming out in which both time & dimensional travel are a theme. Renet & Savanti are involved, & one preview shows Mirage turtles in a possible flashback sequence, to say the least.

excuse me compadre, in which issue is the possible mirage renet?and in which issue will there be mirage turles?
Im asking because I am totally out of the idw comics...

[Chabrendeki]

excuse me compadre, in which issue is the possible mirage renet?and in which issue will there be mirage turles?
Im asking because I am totally out of the idw comics...

Renet was in the 2014 annual I think.

[inbaly]

https://twitter.com/yakkopinky/status/712316178367008768

Does it work now?

it's not work for me
you can put it agein pliz

[Powder]

The tweet was deleted.

[member_removed]

Doesn't Nick own the rights to "Forever"? I wouldn't mind a special edtion DVD with Cam, Towny, Rob and Barry doing the voices!

[Powder]

They own darn near everything, yeah, but I don't think a re-dub is likely at all. I'd take it, though!

[lonewarrior20]

i know this probably belongs in the toy section but i think the mystic Raphael toy came with the 87 turtles portal gun. then again after a closer look i'm most likely wrong.
http://41.media.tumblr.com/15e9e63ea4197c00e31742c79fff01b3/tumblr_o4jl859fXn1u4d44ao2_1280.png https://www.toyco.co.nz/products/550/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-mystic-raphael-figure-3.jpg

[Powder]

I don't think that's exactly it but there's a definite similarity. :tsmile:

[Ninjinister]

I just realized that this Sunday is Easter (yes I'm a bad minister). I find it odd that the episode is airing that day... usually shows, even children's entertainment, avoid holiday weekends like the plague. Another reason why it made no sense to me to air the episodes how they have this month (one week on, one off, then one on a holiday? wtf?) It'd have made more sense to either start the new episodes on the 20th or waited until Easter, or you know... actually had scheduling that didn't suck noodles?

And yes I know they wanted to premiere this episode at Wondershozen or whatever. idgaf. It's still not ill-prepared.

[Refractive Reflections]

First I've seen of this clip of the 2D Krang battle!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2DSMKs0Jko


I know I've lost interest in the Nick series for some time, but the fact that Nick Raph said they live in secret ("in the shadows") was hilarious, considering their adventures in the series have been generating a lot of attention in their direction. Then again this series is notorious for its plot amnesia, so... whatever I guess.

[oldmanwinters]

Love the Mirage Comics shout out on this gif!
http://tmnt.tumblr.com/post/141674872733/trans-dimensional-turtles-gif-preview-its-almost

I still have hopes on a U.S. release of the uncut Turtles Forever. Man, a special redub edition would be an epic bonus feature.

I find it odd that the episode is airing that day... usually shows, even children's entertainment, avoid holiday weekends like the plague. Another reason why it made no sense to me to air the episodes how they have this month (one week on, one off, then one on a holiday? wtf?) It'd have made more sense to either start the new episodes on the 20th or waited until Easter, or you know... actually had scheduling that didn't suck noodles?

And yes I know they wanted to premiere this episode at Wondershozen or whatever. idgaf. It's still not ill-prepared.

Definitely, I thought it odd they waited to air it on Easter too.

i know this probably belongs in the toy section but i think the mystic Raphael toy came with the 87 turtles portal gun. then again after a closer look i'm most likely wrong.
http://41.media.tumblr.com/15e9e63ea4197c00e31742c79fff01b3/tumblr_o4jl859fXn1u4d44ao2_1280.png https://www.toyco.co.nz/products/550/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-mystic-raphael-figure-3.jpg

Nice eye for that!

I know I've lost interest in the Nick series for some time, but the fact that Nick Raph said they live in secret ("in the shadows") was hilarious, considering their adventures in the series have been generating a lot of attention in their direction. Then again this series is notorious for its plot amnesia, so... whatever I guess.

Hypocrites! :lol:

[TheJ-manTurtleMan]

I bet the Easter release is due to Wondercon. They are showing the episode today at the panel.

[Lisardo]

Just saw this remix thing yesterday, showing clips of tomorrow's crossover ep. I love it!

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[darthsmozers]

Just watched it on nick.com. Great fun!!!