Official Deadpool 2 Discussion (Spoilers inside)

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I had no idea Terry Crews was in this. Or if I did, I forgot.

That much more interested now. :tgrin:

[Vicky82]

New Trailer

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'From the Studio that killed Wolverine' :lol:
"So dark, You sure your not from the DC universe" :lol::lol:

[plastroncafe]

Yup. Still awesome.

[ZariusTwo]

Peter saved it

[ZariusTwo]

Celine Dion has contributed to the soundtrack

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[plastroncafe]

That video is amazing!

[Shark_Blade]

I thought Black Panther was gonna be movie of the year, but wow Deadpool 2 is a serious contender now! Go Celine! :tlove:

[ZariusTwo]

Review embargo lifted.

RT score so far is 82%

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/deadpool_2/

[PApagreg]

Coming from the critics I watch the film while good is a bit disjointed compared to the last movie. Still personally going to watch this.

[Mayhem]

Yeah I'll agree with that, having seen it last night. Still plenty of laughs, action and a couple of nasty, nasty moments (such as the "legs" scene :lol:) but not quite as fluid and coherent as the first film. You tell there were reshoots. And not enough Negasonic. But I loved Domino, even if she isn't ultra faithful to the comics.

[ZariusTwo]

Saw it, I quite liked it...not as "on" as the first movie, but far more grown up at the same time and took the time telling a real story. Love the surprises at the mansion and with X-Force as well as some of the references.

[PApagreg]

Saw it, I quite liked it...not as "on" as the first movie, but far more grown up at the same time and took the time telling a real story. Love the surprises at the mansion and with X-Force as well as some of the references.

Would you say there is more action in it compared to the first one

[ZariusTwo]

Would you say there is more action in it compared to the first one

There's at least four really big action pieces, where as I think there's about three in the first one. Most of the movie is taken up by them, but there's still time to relax and tell a story.

When I say it is'nt as "on", I meant it's considerably less funny, that or I really did'nt absorb the humor all that much because there was so much action going on and the story was a bit more heartfelt.

[PApagreg]

Whelp watched it last night and I gotta say I like this more than the first one. Don't get me wrong its not to say I didn't like the first one or that this film didn't have any problems(it was disjointed in a few areas and the ending DRAGGED) but it got more laughs out of me, more awesome action and characters, and it was really emotional in a few areas.

[Andrew NDB]

Deadpool 2 was great! Super funny. Not as mean and lean as the first, but maybe even more entertaining. I do think it'll hold up better than the first in subsequent viewings. Only one thing didn't work to me, though it doesn't by any means ruin the movie. It's a little spoilery...

There's not really any villain here, no one to root for Deadpool to beat up/defeat/vanquish. It starts out and we're kind of supposed to hate Cable for a little while... then near the end Juggernaut shows up and we're sort of supposed to hate him, too, but we're not really given much reason to (I'm not even entirely sure what Juggernaut's motivation here was beyond some vague protection of the kid because he... gave him a plate of food?). And then there's the paper-thin doctor guy... and that's it.

Which isn't to say Deadpool 1 didn't have a similar villainy problem. I still don't understand why Deadpool hated Ajax so much, or wanted him dead so badly. Ajax did EXACTLY what he promised and saved Deadpool's life and allowed him to continue to enjoy life with his girlfriend. It was never promised that he wouldn't be permanently disfigured as a result, or that the preparation for it wouldn't be torturous.

[ZariusTwo]

According to the writers, the mid-credit scenes are canon and not just a gag

Meaning you can expect Vanessa to appear in DP3, and maybe Peter too

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/05/19/deadpool-2-credits-scenes-wolverine-canon/

[Andrew NDB]

According to the writers, the mid-credit scenes are canon and not just a gag

Meaning you can expect Vanessa to appear in DP3, and maybe Peter too

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/05/19/deadpool-2-credits-scenes-wolverine-canon/

Good. Though watching them I never doubted they were canon.

[ProphetofGanja]

Saw DP2 last night. It was a pretty good time overall. Some parts were a little slow (like him dragging out his death) but it wasn't a huge issue. Domino really did steal the show; she will be great in X-Force. I liked the funny twist with the team Deadpool had assembled (especially the jokey references to Mojoworld... that is such a bizarre story in the comics). I really feel like Deadpool could and should be the only character to move to the MCU and still be played by the same actor. Of course he'd break the fourth wall and reference the trading of film rights

[Shark_Blade]

According to the writers, the mid-credit scenes are canon and not just a gag

Meaning you can expect Vanessa to appear in DP3, and maybe Peter too

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/05/19/deadpool-2-credits-scenes-wolverine-canon/
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Of course it’s canon. And I love that Vanessa is Death (who is Deadpool’s lover in the comics) albeit very briefly.


Huge props to the team.

I was hoping that Celine Dion was in the movie but alas... heck even Titanic didn’t have her on film so okay, fine. :tlol:

Isn’t it weird that this film doesn’t have post credit scene?

[Mayhem]

Isn’t it weird that this film doesn’t have post credit scene?
I actually made that comment as the credits were rolling pre-mid credits scene, that maybe they'll completely fake us out and not have anything at the end.

[drgon78]

I found this one to be funnier then the first and in most ways better in general.

[ProactiveMan]

It as good, but I thought the comic timing was way off for the most part. I think it could have been a lot funnier if it was edited differently. For example The James Bond title sequence with all the fake credits would have been really funny if it hadn't come right after Vanessa's death. The reveal of Vanisher's identity would have been a lot funnier if they had have done it more bluntly; as it is, it's kinda blurry and unclear - I had to look it up later to confirm that it was who I thought it was. There are a lot of other examples where the lines were hard to hear.

[Autbot_Benz]

great sequel. i laughed a ton. I can remove juggernaut from the list of x-men ruined by the fox men movies.

[Andrew NDB]

It as good, but I thought the comic timing was way off for the most part. I think it could have been a lot funnier if it was edited differently. For example The James Bond title sequence with all the fake credits would have been really funny if it hadn't come right after Vanessa's death. The reveal of Vanisher's identity would have been a lot funnier if they had have done it more bluntly; as it is, it's kinda blurry and unclear - I had to look it up later to confirm that it was who I thought it was. There are a lot of other examples where the lines were hard to hear.

I felt the same about the Vanisher reveal. I thought I saw so-and-so but I was far from sure. Good point on the title sequence.

[ProactiveMan]

Something else bothered me about it too, and it's a recurring theme in the more adult oriented Marvel properties. Whenever the advancement of the plot requires a superhero muscle a member of the general public, i.e. not a villain or a goon, the writers like to imply that that person is a pedo. It happens in Daredevil, Jessica Jones and big time in Deadpool 2.

That way it doesn't make the hero look like a bully I guess. Makes sense, but aside from being arguably lazy writing; I don't really want to think about pedos while I'm watching cheesy comic book stuff.

[Andrew NDB]

I'd never even thought about that until you mentioned it. Now it bothers me. Like in order to have Deadpool (or any character) act like that, they have to pass it through a checklist to make sure it is SJW proof.

SAD!

[Allio]

Yukio a best

[TigerClaw]

Yukio was in The Wolverine. I wonder why they couldn't get the actress who played her in that movie? Instead of recasting the role.

Then again the timeline was changed in Days of Future Past. So I guess it made more sense to recast Yukio?

[Andrew NDB]

Yukio was in The Wolverine. I wonder why they couldn't get the actress who played her in that movie? Instead of recasting the role.

Then again the timeline was changed in Days of Future Past. So I guess it made more sense to recast Yukio?

Wait, that was supposed to be the same Yukio character?

[Autbot_Benz]

Wait, that was supposed to be the same Yukio character?

ya just looked it up same yukio from The Wolverine but more comic accurate

[Andrew NDB]

ya just looked it up same yukio from The Wolverine but more comic accurate

Wow... I had no clue about that.

I was going to say maybe it's because of the age differences, but Shioli Kutsuna is only 3 years younger than Rila Fukushima. Weird. But then it's not like they bothered to have Vinnie Jones voice the Juggernaut or anything.

[Autbot_Benz]

Wow... I had no clue about that.

I was going to say maybe it's because of the age differences, but Shioli Kutsuna is only 3 years younger than Rila Fukushima. Weird. But then it's not like they bothered to have Vinnie Jones voice the Juggernaut or anything.

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2423262/deadpool-2s-yukio-what-we-know-from-the-comics

nope Ryan Reynolds voiced Juggernaut in the movie.

[CyberCubed]

Just saw the movie now for the first time, it was great. I'm glad they didn't spend too much time in the prison which I feared. I somehow avoided spoilers all this time that Juggernaut was in the movie so I was shocked to see him, I'm glad they got more use out of the character. Loved the X-men cameos and Collossus is amazing in the movie. Everything else that was said has already been said, but I literally burst out laughing at Deadpool going back in time and killing himself from X-men Origins: Wolverine, then himself again looking at the Green Lantern script.

"Fixing the timeline" seems to be a running theme with these X-men films. I mean I know it's all a gag, but it's funny to see how all these X-men movies try to fit into continuity with each other. :lol:

[Redeemer]

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2423262/deadpool-2s-yukio-what-we-know-from-the-comics

nope Ryan Reynolds voiced Juggernaut in the movie.

You just made me second guess everything in life. I would have bet money that John DiMaggio voiced Juggernaut!!!! DiMaggio voiced Marcus Fenix in Gears of War and Bender on Futurama. Juggernaut sound so much like Marcus Fenix I swore it was DiMaggio voicing him!!!!

[The Deadman]

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[ranger_scout]

A PG-13 version of the movie is being released this Christmas. Maybe this part of a strategy to eventually incorporate Reynolds' version of Deadpool into the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

https://deadline.com/2018/09/dark-phoenix-alita-battle-angel-deadpool-gambit-release-date-changes-1202473229/

[Spike Spiegel]

I saw the extended cut on home video, and the only thing that bothered me was the baby Hitler joke.

It just seemed so crass and mean-spirited, even when compared to the rest of the film.

The movie had some interesting themes overall, though. I would have liked to see more of both versions of Cable's future.

[drgon78]

A PG-13 cut of Deadpool 2...why?

[ZariusTwo]

A PG-13 cut of Deadpool 2...why?

Because God apparently loves Grace Randolph?:P

[raph27]

Didn't this already happen with the King's Speech and it bombed? It's like what they did with The Wolverine but in reverse.

[TigerClaw]

The PG-13 version of Deadpool 2 has an official title. "Once Upon A Deadpool"
https://deadline.com/2018/11/deadpool-ryan-reynolds-disney-pg13-marvel-1202495981/

[ZariusTwo]

Trailer for Once Upon A Deadpool

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[Shark_Blade]

I’m curious what would be the difference to the original that merits this re-release. Merely toning down won’t really attract people would it? I mean, sure the kids are gonna come but what about the adults that have seen it? Eh I’d probably go watch it again too lol.

[Autbot_Benz]

http://collider.com/deadpool-r-ratin..._medium=social

R-Rated ‘Deadpool’ Movies Will Continue at Disney; Other R-Rated Properties a Possibility

[Leo656]

I'll believe it when I see it.

Forgive me if I don't have supreme trust in a corporation that had to turn Thanos into a roided-up Intergalactic Ra's al Ghul simply to avoid repeated mentions of "Death" in a movie.

We'll see.

[Redeemer]

I'll believe it when I see it.

Forgive me if I don't have supreme trust in a corporation that had to turn Thanos into a roided-up Intergalactic Ra's al Ghul simply to avoid repeated mentions of "Death" in a movie.

We'll see.

I actually prefer the movie Thanos over comic Thanos.

[Andrew NDB]

I'll believe it when I see it.

Forgive me if I don't have supreme trust in a corporation that had to turn Thanos into a roided-up Intergalactic Ra's al Ghul simply to avoid repeated mentions of "Death" in a movie.

We'll see.

Come to think of it... you're probably dead on about that, aren't you?

[Leo656]

I actually prefer the movie Thanos over comic Thanos.

Fascinating.

Entire novels have been written about how balls-out ridiculous his "plan" was and how many reasons there were why it couldn't possibly work. It's bananas. Being romantically in love with the physical embodiment of the Grim Reaper and hoping to impress her via universal genocide may be ridiculous, but at least it had a snowball's chance in Hell of actually working as intended.

Movie Thanos, apparently, neither passed Statistics nor Junior High School Science. And forget about Theoretical Physics, advanced or otherwise. It's a shoddy, shoddy plan. And it wouldn't work. Some people tell you he's literally the Good Guy of the movie! Those people really need some Edumikayshun.

And no "But he's 'The Mad Titan'!" rebuttals. Comic Book Thanos is "The Mad Titan". Movie Thanos is an idiot who doesn't even understand how things like Ecosystems and Inflation work on a basic level, let alone a cosmic one.

To be fair to Movie Thanos, though... it's entirely not his fault that most screenwriters aren't well-versed in such things, either. But they should at least expect that a lot of people who do at least read books would go, "Hmm... nah."

Come to think of it... you're probably dead on about that, aren't you?

Simplest explanation is almost always the correct one, Watson. :)

I mean, it absolutely can happen, and if/when it does, then good for everybody. Disney "corporate" has always released adult fare under other labels. But ultimately, they wanna cross Deadpool over with the other guys and put him in the proper MCU mix, so no matter what they say, it's almost certainly going to "confuse and divide the audience" if they have R-Rated Deadpool antics in one movie that isn't released under "Disney/Marvel", and then have him show up totally neutered in an Avengers movie that does have that label.

They can, and may, try and do R-Rated super-heroes. But I feel that it's more likely that they'll maintain PG-13 as the cap for their super-hero fare rather than try and push the envelope. "Venom" conclusively proved that fans would much rather simply dial down their expectations and standards a little bit, and go along with what a studio deems acceptable, rather than die on the "It needs to be Rated R!" hill. If they wanna see the movie, they'll support it regardless of if it's "watered down". Disney knows this. Nobody's going to riot if they make a PG-13 Deadpool or X-Force movie, and they're definitely not going to stay home.

I predict they'll stay within PG-13 for simplicity's sake. It's what's in their best interests, ultimately. BUT, by all means, if they wanna surprise me by making an R-Rated CBM division and really committing to that, then good for everybody. I believe that it's not their job to determine which content is acceptable for anyone, rather to simply create content and let the appropriate audience find it and respond to it.

[Egon1982]

One of my fave films of 2018! loved it.