AMC's The Walking Dead

[Foombamaroom]

I don't think there's a real Walking Dead forum here, so I figured I'd start one.

For one, episode 609, 'No Way Out', which aired tonight is hands down my favorite episode of the whole show.

[ToTheNines]

Amidst the deaths and maimings, this episode had an awesome triumphant feeling to it. A lot of characters stepped up.

Was completely caught off guard by the Saviors sequence lol.

Although, the hatchet/hand scene played out WAY better in the comics. Also, didnt understand why "W" had a change in heart.

[Foombamaroom]

I liked the way the hatchet scene played out. In the comics, it's much more terrifying, while this was like a dream sequence. It's different, but nice.

But that ending montage of Rick's group making a last stand against the walkers... Probably my favorite moment in the whole show.

[Slade]

I think there's a thread for this show somewhere, it just gets no love.

Anyway, I do watch this, I just get extremely bored with it in the middle of the seasons usually. But this episode here, was f*cking fantastic!!

[Zak The Neutrino]

I think this last episode was one of the best of the series. I was starting to get bored with the series but this roped me back in.

[Foombamaroom]

I'm one of the few that's really liked this season. 601, 602, 603, 604, and 606 were great. 607's nothing special, and 605 and 608 were crap.

But 609? God, that was the best episode of the whole series.

[Hero]

Best episode yet 6.09. Looking forward to the introduction of Paul Monroe next weekend.

[shuriken]

I stopped watching after Beth dies in what season 5. So stupid. But everyone is saying this season is one of the best so I might have to check it out.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Why was it stupid? Aside from the fact that she basically caused her own death when she tried to kill that be-otch cop in the hospital. But honestly, the chick had it coming after everything she did. Or looked the other way on, in some cases. But Beth should have known not to tangle directly with a trained combatant (aka cop). Or maybe just, y'know, had better aim with the scalpel.

[shuriken]

Why was it stupid? Aside from the fact that she basically caused her own death when she tried to kill that be-otch cop in the hospital. But honestly, the chick had it coming after everything she did. Or looked the other way on, in some cases. But Beth should have known not to tangle directly with a trained combatant (aka cop). Or maybe just, y'know, had better aim with the scalpel.

You pretty much summed it up. The cop had a gun, they were going to make the trade scotch free, you could've waited ect. There was so much wrong with the way that she died, it was needless and stupid. Just as I was beginning to like Beth she goes and gets herself killed. I mean, get a gun or something not some tiny ass scissors.
This is a case of grit your teeth and walk away.

[Hero]

Big season finale this weekend. Anyone else tuning in?

[ToTheNines]

Yes, very excited. I initially thought they were rushing into the whole Negan thing, and I was even kinda annoyed that they were even bothering to adapt the character considering his particular brand of swearing, but now that it's upon us... Gotta admit I'm really into it.

Although I feel like Carol is toast and that's going to put a real bad taste in my mouth. Despite her random and not so plausible crisis, she's still my favorite character. And when they show catches up to the comic she would be a great foil to the current Big Bad. So if she dies it'll be a complete waste.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

You pretty much summed it up. The cop had a gun, they were going to make the trade scotch free, you could've waited ect. There was so much wrong with the way that she died, it was needless and stupid. Just as I was beginning to like Beth she goes and gets herself killed. I mean, get a gun or something not some tiny ass scissors.
This is a case of grit your teeth and walk away.


I think she just couldn't stand by and walk away knowing what she did. She knew that the lady needed to be taken down and that none of her own people were going to do it. She acted on gut feelings and her own sense of justice, but it went sour. So yeah, in that sense it was stupid of her to try that the way she did, but she knew it was her best chance to stop what was happening there. It just went very sour, and in that respect, it was a tragic loss. Beth just wasn't good enough to do it without getting herself killed. Truthfully, I'm surprised she lasted as long as she did with being as unskilled as she was.

[Andrew NDB]

Can't wait to see Daryl die this Sunday.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Oh, gawds, I HOPE not! He's one of the best characters on the show, and one of the three biggest draws for fans (Besides Rick and Glenn). I'd HOPE they wouldn't be stupid enough to kill him off. I've especially liked his interactions with Carol, and he's had some of the best character arcs in the show.

[ToTheNines]

Can't wait to see Daryl die this Sunday.

I always felt like he'd have the biggest impact, dying by Lucille's hand. Rick, Carl and Michonne have plot armor, Glenn died the exact same way in the comics, so Daryl's the only logical choice right?

It wouldn't have the same impact, but it could be cool to see Morgan take the bat too though...

Morgan: Because all life is precious.

Negan: No it's not. *thwack*

[NinjaPug]

I think either Abraham or Glenn meet Lucille in the finale. No way they'd have Carol in that role. The backlash would be insane.

[ToTheNines]

Abraham would be kind of weird, since Denise just stole his death two weeks ago. But it could happen.

[Andrew NDB]

I think either Abraham or Glenn meet Lucille in the finale.

Can rule out Glenn because there's already been 3 fakeouts this season. That'd be pretty lame if they just killed him after that. And nobody cares about Abraham.

It'll be Daryl. His arc has been over for many seasons now... his only good contribution at this point would be his death.

Here's how it'll happen, roughly (I'm betting): everyone will be laid out like in the comics, Negan will eenie, meeny, miny moe it... and choose GLENN. Cue the audience going, "Whoa, just like in the comics!" But then Daryl steps forward, feels bad because Glenn is a father to be, roars at Negan that he should pick him instead, that he's the guy that bazookaed his men in their first encounter. Negan agrees... and Daryl gets batted to death.

[Hero]

Carl is definitely off limits. There are stories from the comics yet to be adapted/hodge-podged that involve he and Negan after the major Lucille death.

Definitely Daryl or Glenn. I don't think AMC will go ahead with the mystery death that many fan groups have speculated on. Something like that can not be sustained for the next 7 months.

[NinjaPug]

Can rule out Glenn because there's already been 3 fakeouts this season. That'd be pretty lame if they just killed him after that. And nobody cares about Abraham.

It'll be Daryl. His arc has been over for many seasons now... his only good contribution at this point would be his death.

Here's how it'll happen, roughly (I'm betting): everyone will be laid out like in the comics, Negan will eenie, meeny, miny moe it... and choose GLENN. Cue the audience going, "Whoa, just like in the comics!" But then Daryl steps forward, feels bad because Glenn is a father to be, roars at Negan that he should pick him instead, that he's the guy that bazookaed his men in their first encounter. Negan agrees... and Daryl gets batted to death.

I get your point on Glenn but they just did the Daryl death fakeout at the end of the last episode. I hope it is Daryl though. I've always hated him.

AMC better not do that rumored first person camera shot to end the season with the audience not knowing who got Lucille'd.

[Andrew NDB]

I get your point on Glenn but they just did the Daryl death fakeout at the end of the last episode. I hope it is Daryl though. I've always hated him.

I can't say I've hated him... but I'm puzzled at why so many people love him. He's one, maybe two dimensional. And has had literally no arc for so long. His first thing was, "Can I be my own man apart from my brother?" Which was flimsy. But ultimately resolved, and then his brother died so it became a non-issue. Then it was, kind of, "Can I adapt to work with others?" He did. Many seasons ago. That's done. They played with him flirting with Carol and it went nowhere, and then Beth, who died... and that's it. There's been no growth or arc since.

AMC better not do that rumored first person camera shot to end the season with the audience not knowing who got Lucille'd.

I was very, very worried about that until recent stuff popped up that does pretty clearly paint a picture that a pivotal character will be dying on the season ender.

While Daryl is definitely my pick... with the words "groundbreaking" and such being thrown around by the cast and crew about it... I'm actually starting to wonder if Rick himself is going to get killed.

Which on the surface would be weird... but if the rest of the show becomes about, like, Morgan coming around and taking his place, learning to get his hands dirty, etc.... that could be compelling television.

[myconius]

imagine if they have Negan kill Carol?

i mean why not? she's LONG overdue!!!

[Hero]

Carol (and Morgan) are obviously not in the last scene. ;).

[myconius]

Carol (and Morgan) are obviously not in the last scene. ;).

maybe so .... but i guy can dream can't he??? :D

[NinjaPug]

imagine if they have Negan kill Carol?

i mean why not? she's LONG overdue!!!

You really think AMC is going to have a man beat a woman to death with a bat?

[myconius]

You really think AMC is going to have a man beat a woman to death with a bat?

why discriminate among the sexes? :lol:

no, i don't believe they ever would. i just thought the idea was pretty funny!

especially with how overly PC i truly think that show has become!

personally i'd rather see the shows writers get beaten with bats! :D

[Hero]

Though Daryl is likely, I reckon it will more likely be Glenn. IMO Daryl dying by Lucille won't make as much of an impact as it would Glenn, nor be as heartbreaking.

Since Daryl wasn't in the original comic, the biggest kill ever from that source material wouldn't be as effective. Still, I don't fancy Mr Dixon's chances of survival at all. Maybe they as Rick's top 2 wingmen they will both end up gone.

This iconic scene from the comics certainly won't involve a more minor player.

[Foombamaroom]

It's a cliffhanger. Sorry to break it to you guys, but they're going to have a POV shot of the victim, and then have Negan kill that person, and not reveal who it is until Season 7, Episode 1.

[Bry]

I can't say I've hated him... but I'm puzzled at why so many people love him. He's one, maybe two dimensional. And has had literally no arc for so long. His first thing was, "Can I be my own man apart from my brother?" Which was flimsy. But ultimately resolved, and then his brother died so it became a non-issue. Then it was, kind of, "Can I adapt to work with others?" He did. Many seasons ago. That's done. They played with him flirting with Carol and it went nowhere, and then Beth, who died... and that's it. There's been no growth or arc since.

A lot of the appeal is how attractive a lot of women find him, I think. :lol: Nothing wrong with that at all, most shows have a character like that, but I've always found him pretty thin as character otherwise. He's the "cool, quiet badass" and that's about it -- you're right, character-arc-wise he ran his course a long time ago. Though it can be entertaining watching him interact with people (Denise most recently, and the borderline "Dukes of Hazzard"-y episode with Rick not long ago) he's not really that compelling on his own.

As for the Negan/Lucille thing... I'm fully expecting them to do the comic verbatim, but hoping they don't. Considering the amount of incredibly aggressive teasing they've done with Glenn this season, I feel like it's gonna be super clunky if they don't throw a swerve in there. Then again, this show's not exactly a stranger to some clunky writing. :P

[Hero]

Cliffhanger maybe, but a mystery death is no way workable. The producers won't be able to keep that under wraps for the next 7 months let alone have some material to make a season 7 trailer from.

[myconius]

if this series is good at one thing, it's setting up a person or destination that the group needs to get to and then leave it at a cliffhanger.

they did that with the prison, they did it with terminus, finding beth, and now they've dragged out getting to Negan till the final episode of the season.

with so many dragged out wasted episodes in-between.

[myconius]

an hour and a half for that?

what a complete waste!!!!

[Bry]

what a complete waste!!!!

Ah, so you have watched The Walking Dead. :P

[myconius]

Ah, so you have watched The Walking Dead. :P

hahahaha! yeah, unfortunately! :lol:

[ToTheNines]

It was a great episode, so very tense and dire.

But with the ending... Walking Dead has officially become a joke.

1980 called. Dallas wants their cliffhanger back.

1995 called. The Simpsons are ****ing laughing at you.

[myconius]

It was a great episode, so very tense and dire.

But with the ending... Walking Dead has officially become a joke.

1980 called. Dallas wants their cliffhanger back.

1995 called. The Simpsons are ****ing laughing at you.

i was actually gonna say it's like 'As the World Turns'?

but yeah, that end was a bad joke!!
and sadly i KNEW they were gonna pull some crud like that!!!

[NinjaPug]

Such a terrible decision to end it like that. That scene doesn't need a cliffhanger to be talked about during the summer. It's just another stupid stunt from the writers. It's not like the victim's identity won't be revealed this summer long before the episode airs anyway. Listening to Gimple and a Kirkman try to justify the decision is infuriating.

[ToTheNines]

Right? Kirkman was all "the comics always end on a cliffhanger"... that's monthly bro. And the issue you were attempting to adapt did not end on such a weak, amateurish note.

Obviously my viewership is a drop in the bucket, but I'm probably not going to watch season 7, just on principle.

That said, I'm convinced it was Abraham. For multiple reasons.

[Foombamaroom]

It's Glenn.

The audio leaked a few days ago, but they removed the screams of the group. You could hear Maggie and Abraham screaming, "GLENN!", and if you slow the audio down here, you can hear it, too.

But **** Gimple. I'm never watching another episode of this show live ever again.

[Andrew NDB]

As for the Negan/Lucille thing... I'm fully expecting them to do the comic verbatim

That'd be strange, since they've only ever done a comic book verbatim death ever once. With Shane. In season 2.

Man, this season finale was bollocks. All this talk about "groundbreaking" and Andrew Lincoln "sick to his stomach"... and it's just a cliffhanger where nobody visibly dies?

Still sticking with Daryl.

[Andrew NDB]

"GLENN!", and if you slow the audio down here, you can hear it, too.

False. Just pulled the episode into premiere and both sped and slowed the murmurs down on the audio track and there's definitely no "GLENN" anywhere in there.

[Slade]

Heh, I hope it's Glenn. I've wanted him to die for a while now.

Actually, I have no idea why I watch this show. Half the time I don't even like it. :lol:

[shuriken]

^^ I felt that way watching season 4. Then I stopped watching it.

[Slade]

Yeah. This has actually been the first season I've consistently watched since season 2 I think. Ive skipped a lot of stuff.

Mostly I find it boring unless someone important is supposed to die. Too much hype for it I guess.

[Hero]

Good luck to AMC in trying to sustain the mystery character death. Given all the material that has leaked in the past, they are in for a challenge!

Carol and Morgan stumbling on King Ezekiel's people was a nice turnup.

[myconius]

the dragged out episodes of nothing happening is getting worse and worse.

this whole build up to Negan was terrible!! the group aimlessly driving around for hours just wasting 90 minute air-time was a slap in the face!!!

especially the way they ended it!!!

i barely can even pay attention to the show when i watch it anymore!

[mrmaczaps]

It was a boring episode that could have been done with barely 22 minutes of actual air time. All that wait, just to wait some more.

My vote is for Daryl... but I'might thinking they stick to the source and go Glenn, so Maggie can shine.

As far as next season, what if they time jump to 6 months later and say 4 regular cast members are missing/unseen until four or five episodes in... Although I guess that's like the last two seasons, rush to the finale, new season, slow until the mid-season and then slow it down again for the finale....

[myconius]

It was a boring episode that could have been done with barely 22 minutes of actual air time. All that wait, just to wait some more.

My vote is for Daryl... but I'might thinking they stick to the source and go Glenn, so Maggie can shine.

As far as next season, what if they time jump to 6 months later and say 4 regular cast members are missing/unseen until four or five episodes in... Although I guess that's like the last two seasons, rush to the finale, new season, slow until the mid-season and then slow it down again for the finale....

i completely agree with EVERY single word you just said there!!!

that was the most dragged out unnecessary waste of an episode since Rick had his little meeting with the Governor right before the prison attack!!!!

the only reason i would vote Daryl is -- because he's the only character i really like anymore!!! and if they killed him off than i could finally stop watching that mumbo jumbo hook in mouth show!!

[Hero]

Fear TWD season 2 starts next weekend. I'll be tuning in.

[Andrew NDB]

I examined closely the Walking Dead death (and I haven't seen the whole episode, only scrutinized the last scene)... from left to right (from Negan's POV), the lineup:A) Glenn, B) Rosita, C) Daryl, D) Michonne, E) Abraham, F) Maggie, G) Rick, H) Sasha, I) Paul, J) Carl, K) Eugene. At the end of his "eenie meenie miny moe" picking, walking back and forth he lastly points his bat at Daryl, then Abraham, then Carl... then the next thing we see is Negan's shadow moving over and past Rick's face... left to right. He takes a couple of steps in a straight line in that same movement, not turning, directly facing someone on the left side of Rick (Negan's right). Not very exciting picks, but since we know it can't be Carl (the line about "if anyone moves, feed the kid's eye to his dad") and since he took more than a single step past Rick that eliminates Paul... kind of means it can only be Eugene. There are no alternatives.

[Hero]

Paul? I think you mean Aaron :)

We'll likely find out who died soon. Season 7 begins filming in the next couple of week.

[mrmaczaps]

From what I've read, even the cast doesn't know yet who died...

I think it would be interesting to explore this moment from the POV of some of the others prior to the actual reveal of who dies... and then cut to a few months later... or be a few months later and it be flashbacks and then end the first or second episode with the reveal.

[Hero]

Wow. Scott Gimple really got trolled over that finale ending. No need for it.

I still think Kevin Durand looked more of the part of Negan than Robert Dow... I mean Jeffrey Dean Morgan ;). Still, his intro and monologue was a good and effective part of the episode. Very much 'Pee-pants City'. We now see on-screen properly the magnitude of how big a threat The Saviors really are.

In other news, Fear The Walking Dead has been renewed for a 16 episode 3rd season.

[ToTheNines]

JDM acted the part well, but I thought he looked too skinny for the role.

[myconius]

In other news, Fear The Walking Dead has been renewed for a 16 episode 3rd season.

great! so now that 'Fear...' is taking off, the producers see just how bad of a product they can get away with.

and for this reason we can pretty much expect the quality of the main series to continue to drop as well?

why worry about quality when you can snatch up coins just as easily with quantity.

[Hero]

Swinging the bat could very well be the new jumping the shark. :)

I liked s6, but the ending left me cold. Season 7 could be a make or break affair. There's the prospective spectacle of a tiger and the All Out War arc from the comics that will hopefully be pulled off well. And... Kind Ezekiel, that guy is a spectacle in his own right :)

I don't mind Fear too much. I just hope the show finds its feet some more as s2 continues.

[myconius]

Swinging the bat could very well be the new jumping the shark. :)

I liked s6, but the ending left me cold. Season 7 could be a make or break affair. There's the prospective spectacle of a tiger and the All Out War arc from the comics that will hopefully be pulled off well. And... Kind Ezekiel, that guy is a spectacle in his own right :)

I don't mind Fear too much. I just hope the show finds its feet some more as s2 continues.

swinging the bat = jumping the shark :lol:
brilliant analogy! :D

there were a few moments i actually enjoyed from season 6, but to few and far between.

the producers seem like they try too hard to fill as much airtime with the soap opera drama just so they can save money on make-up and special effects.
so in turn we get tons and tons of speeches and characters lecturing one another.

yeah, after the season 6 hour and a half finale i was just about ready to drop the show completely. but i think season 7 could be the deal breaker for me?

[ToTheNines]

Less swinging the bat and more killing the cameraman, I'd say.

[myconius]

Less swinging the bat and more killing the cameraman, I'd say.

Negan missed!!!!!

instead of getting the cameraman he should have been aiming for the producers!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz845VlMbOg

Uncensored version of Negan, which is much more comic accurate with his particular style of speech.

If JDM lost the facial hair, he'd be perfect.

[Andrew NDB]

If JDM lost the facial hair, he'd be perfect.

Right? I thought he was going to do that in Season 7, given his comment to Abraham about his needing to shave... but every peek at 7 I've seen it doesn't look like it.

I think they're just worried that JDM without facial hair wouldn't look like JDM.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Right? I thought he was going to do that in Season 7, given his comment to Abraham about his needing to shave... but every peek at 7 I've seen it doesn't look like it.

I think they're just worried that JDM without facial hair wouldn't look like JDM.

Probably.

Novel idea: maybe they should worry that JDM with facial hair doesn't look like Negan!?

Actually, more like: Negan without f-bombs isn't Negan.

[Andrew NDB]

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I have it on good authority that this is what happens. It could be bogus, but I'm thinking it's not, as it's the one same source that leaked that Season 6 would end on a cliffhanger when everyone and their mom was just spouting out fake leaks about who dies.

As I understand it, Negan chooses Abraham. Negan kills Abraham. Daryl cries out/tries to intervene, but rather than kill Daryl, Negan punishes Daryl by instead killing Glenn as well. Then, a little bit after, Negan starts punching Carl to near-death. A saw is near Rick... the deal is, Negan will stop punching Carl to death if Rick picks up the saw and cuts off Carl's hand. Rick says no, he won't do it, so Negan keeps punching. Eventually Rick agrees, picks up the saw... but Negan, satisfied that Rick is sufficiently broken/willing to work for him now, stops him. Rick and his (surviving) crew are sent on their way, Daryl goes off to the Kingdom, and Negan keeps Carl for safekeeping and an insurance policy.

[myconius]

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Negan starts punching Carl to near-death.


too bad Negan just doesn't finish it?

[myconius]

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I have it on good authority that this is what happens. It could be bogus, but I'm thinking it's not, as it's the one same source that leaked that Season 6 would end on a cliffhanger when everyone and their mom was just spouting out fake leaks about who dies.

As I understand it, Negan chooses Abraham. Negan kills Abraham. Daryl cries out/tries to intervene, but rather than kill Daryl, Negan punishes Daryl by instead killing Glenn as well. Then, a little bit after, Negan starts punching Carl to near-death. A saw is near Rick... the deal is, Negan will stop punching Carl to death if Rick picks up the saw and cuts off Carl's hand. Rick says no, he won't do it, so Negan keeps punching. Eventually Rick agrees, picks up the saw... but Negan, satisfied that Rick is sufficiently broken/willing to work for him now, stops him. Rick and his (surviving) crew are sent on their way, Daryl goes off to the Kingdom, and Negan keeps Carl for safekeeping and an insurance policy.

this was pretty dang close!!!

VERY close!!! :)

[Andrew NDB]

this was pretty dang close!!!

VERY close!!! :)

Yeah, only thing off was Negan punching Carl over and over again. And Rick's axe, not a saw. And it doesn't appear Negan kept Carl, though I think this part in particular was my own assumption.

[myconius]

Yeah, only thing off was Negan punching Carl over and over again. And Rick's axe, not a saw. And it doesn't appear Negan kept Carl, though I think this part in particular was my own assumption.

as i was watching it unfold i was thinking to myself - "holy crap! Andrew must have himself one HELL of a source!" :lol:

but yeah, aside from a few minor differences it was REALLY close!

[ToTheNines]

That said, I'm convinced it was Abraham. For multiple reasons.

Yay, I win.

Great episode, but woulda been just as good with out the cliffhanger last season.

Really excited for the blu rays from here on out, so we can have real Negan. He was still great though, just totally mounted and rode Rick all episode long.

Very glad Carl wasn't taken away. He gets to have THAT moment soon enough, I would assume before the mid-season finale.

[Andrew NDB]

Really excited for the blu rays from here on out, so we can have real Negan.

Now I know they shot Negan in the season 6 finale twice so the blu-rays would have an R-rated Negan... but are we sure that's the plan for every Negan appearance ever, going forward? Not just a one time thing?

[PApagreg]

Yay, I win.

Great episode, but woulda been just as good with out the cliffhanger last season.

Really excited for the blu rays from here on out, so we can have real Negan. He was still great though, just totally mounted and rode Rick all episode long.

Very glad Carl wasn't taken away. He gets to have THAT moment soon enough, I would assume before the mid-season finale.

Really wished they didn't give us the flashbacks and leaving us in the open for the first 20 minutes but the Glenn death was nothing short of perfection

[Zak The Neutrino]

Spoilers....









I can't believe they went through with the eye socket thing. This was a great episode.

[Andrew NDB]

I can't believe they went through with the eye socket thing. This was a great episode.

You can clearly see the eyeball in the gristle on the ground, too.

[myconius]

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I can't believe they went through with the eye socket thing. This was a great episode.

they NEEDED to have the whole eye pop with Negan pointing it out to everyone.
that was probably one of his more memorable lines along with Lucile being a vampire bat.


Really wished they didn't give us the flashbacks and leaving us in the open for the first 20 minutes but the Glenn death was nothing short of perfection

yeah the first 20 or so minutes were such a waste of time! just more padding like the entire season 6 finale!

[ToTheNines]

Now I know they shot Negan in the season 6 finale twice so the blu-rays would have an R-rated Negan... but are we sure that's the plan for every Negan appearance ever, going forward? Not just a one time thing?

If JDM is to be believed, that's what they're doing going forward: http://www.cbr.com/the-walking-deads-negan-talks-about-s7s-faithfulness-to-the-comic/

Almost makes me want to stop watching weekly and just wait for the home release.

[myconius]

If JDM is to be believed, that's what they're doing going forward: http://www.cbr.com/the-walking-deads-negan-talks-about-s7s-faithfulness-to-the-comic/

Almost makes me want to stop watching weekly and just wait for the home release.

if you do you'll be spared many annoying insurance commercials that way! :lol:

[Coola Yagami]

People getting their heads beat into bloody mush, A-OK. A few f-bombs... oh hell no! I wish people would have more consistency with what goes and what doesn't fly in tv. Little Timmy got to see two nightmare fuel inducing deaths, back to back. A few swears isn't gonna kill him.

[myconius]

People getting their heads beat into bloody mush, A-OK. A few f-bombs... oh hell no! I wish people would have more consistency with what goes and what doesn't fly in tv. Little Timmy got to see two nightmare fuel inducing deaths, back to back. A few swears isn't gonna kill him.

the bloody skull bashing is perfectly acceptable to the sponsors.
they might even try using it in their commercials?

"if only he'd had our insurance before his head became a messy pulp." :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

People getting their heads beat into bloody mush, A-OK. A few f-bombs... oh hell no! I wish people would have more consistency with what goes and what doesn't fly in tv.

It's all self-imposed by AMC. Cable networks don't need to censor anything, even nudity.

[ToTheNines]

Self-imposed, but done in order to appease advertisers. Doubt they'd lose any over it, but they don't want to risk it I guess.

[myconius]

Self-imposed, but done in order to appease advertisers. Doubt they'd lose any over it, but they don't want to risk it I guess.

true, plus there seems to be quite a large base of viewers as well.
don't want to have anything TOO offensive that would drive away any of that very large fanbase.
since the beginning this series has felt like a soap opera but with zombies.

[myconius]

'The Walking Dead' Premiere Didn't Go Down Well With Conservative Groups

http://moviepilot.com/p/the-walking-dead-premiere-didnt-go-down-well-with-conservative-groups/4132969?utm_source=fb-stream-post&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=the-walking-dead-premiere-didnt-go-down-well-with-conservative-groups

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if they can't take the extreme violence, then they shouldn't be watching a show about the zombie apocalypse.

[PApagreg]

Off topic but to those who found out about Glenn's death in the comic how did you react. For me I was shaken for like two days

[myconius]

Off topic but to those who found out about Glenn's death in the comic how did you react. For me I was shaken for like two days

i first read Glenn's death in the comic. yeah it really left me unsettled for a while.

at least they actually followed through in the tv series. Glenn's death at the hands of Negan was too pivotal a moment to cheap out of.

i'm still disappointed as &%@$ at how that whole prison/woodbury thing went down!

[TonySiegel]

Off topic but to those who found out about Glenn's death in the comic how did you react. For me I was shaken for like two days

i didn't get spoiled so when I read issue #100 online it caught me way off guard...

now that he died on the show it wasn't as impactful... but seeing people react about it is funny... comic fans have had time to mourn haha

[PApagreg]

i didn't get spoiled so when I read issue #100 online it caught me way off guard...

now that he died on the show it wasn't as impactful... but seeing people react about it is funny... comic fans have had time to mourn haha

What got me was that after Negan took the first swing I thought to myself "that didn't seem too bad maybe Glenn could survive that" then I saw the his eyeball and I was like "oh @#$%". When I showed this to my friend he thought Glenn might be alive, I'm telling you when it came to fictional deaths nothing hurt me more then Glenn and I read the Runaways for godsakes.

[myconius]

it was far more upsetting when i read it in the comic.

the TV death was just comical! especially since they delayed the deaths in-between seasons.
and started the episode dragging out the suspense even further with that "go get my hatchet" nonsense.

[The Deadman]

The Walking Dead producers apparently are toning down the level of violence due to viewer backlash of the gruesome death scene in the October 23rd premiere (http://bloody-disgusting.com/tv/3421596/guys-walking-dead-producers-censoring-violence/)

[Andrew NDB]

The Walking Dead producers apparently are toning down the level of violence due to viewer backlash of the gruesome death scene in the October 23rd premiere (http://bloody-disgusting.com/tv/3421596/guys-walking-dead-producers-censoring-violence/)

Ridiculous. And spineless.

[ToTheNines]

Hey, just in time for All Out War. **** this. The comic has never been better, but I'm probably done with this chickenshit show.

[CyberCubed]

This show is still on the air?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Hey, just in time for All Out War. **** this. The comic has never been better, but I'm probably done with this chickenshit show.

The Whisperers and Lucille, amirite?

[ToTheNines]

No, it's cancelled.

The Whisperers and Lucille, amirite?

Yes! Alpha and Beta are/were cool as **** too. They're great at keeping you guessing, I have no idea what's gonna happen next month.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

No, it's cancelled.



Yes! Alpha and Beta are/were cool as **** too. They're great at keeping you guessing, I have no idea what's gonna happen next month.

Same. Or with those asshats the Saviors.

[myconius]

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[CyberCubed]

I really don't understand the appeal of these shows from the start. Sure, seeing a bunch of people eaten by zombies is always fun, but story-wise? I can just youtube all the best scenes and skip the rest.

[Andrew NDB]

Has anyone watched season 7 on Blu-ray yet? I'm wondering if there are uncensored versions of all of the Negan bits where he can say "F***," like they shot for the Blu-ray version of season 6's season finale.

[TurtleWA]

I really don't understand the appeal of these shows from the start. Sure, seeing a bunch of people eaten by zombies is always fun, but story-wise? I can just youtube all the best scenes and skip the rest.

It is great story telling. It just happens to have Zombies.

It covers themes like humanity, love, loss, leadership, family, belonging, not belonging, trust, courage, ethics, fear, isolation. And many more elements I'm sure I have forgotten. There are dramatic scenes that don't even involve Zombies. That don't involve killing. Just talking. Using YouTube for scenes would be like reading random pages of a novel.

I'm almost done watching season 7.

[myconius]

the comic has great storytelling.

the tv series is a hot steaming mess.

[TurtleWA]

the comic has great storytelling.

the tv series is a hot steaming mess.

They are two different art forms. I assume you are not a viewer. Unless you have a hot steaming mess fetish.

[myconius]

i've watched the show since season one.

the writing is inconsistent, characters flip-flop all over the place, and storylines drag out and go nowhere.

i watched the show long before i was introduced to the comics.
glad i did discover the comics. at least it has some redeeming qualities.

as the tv series goes on it shows less and less zombies.
want to know why? cuz they can save budget. it's become a glorified soap opera.

[TurtleWA]

i've watched the show since season one.

the writing is inconsistent, characters flip-flop all over the place, and storylines drag out and go nowhere.

i watched the show long before i was introduced to the comics.
glad i did discover the comics. at least it has some redeeming qualities.

as the tv series goes on it shows less and less zombies.
want to know why? cuz they can save budget. it's become a glorified soap opera.

What do you have to gain from continuing to watch? Sounds like you enjoy it very little, especially after reading the comics.

[myconius]

What do you have to gain from continuing to watch? Sounds like you enjoy it very little, especially after reading the comics.

i gave the series one more shot to improve after being completely disappointed with season 6.

after watching the entire season 7 i feel like it has gotten even worse.

[TurtleWA]

i gave the series one more shot to improve after being completely disappointed with season 6.

after watching the entire season 7 i feel like it has gotten even worse.

Sounds like no season 8 for you then. Lucky they still have the comics for fans that decide the show no longer fits them. And lucky for me that I still enjoy it and will continue to watch.

Looks like the show might give a F this season. Maybe two.

"The Walking Dead is allowed to use the F-word in season 8"
https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/the-walking-dead-season-8-new-series-swear-words-trailer-rick-negan-a7968421.html%3famp

[The Deadman]

AMC decided to kill the only good thing they do all year long in the FearFest horror marathon for this month (its only a week this year) because they feel the need to air EVERYTHING Walking Dead because of the season 8 premiere. TWD has got to be one of the most overrated "horror" shows on television going today.

[Redeemer]

i've watched the show since season one.

the writing is inconsistent, characters flip-flop all over the place, and storylines drag out and go nowhere.

i watched the show long before i was introduced to the comics.
glad i did discover the comics. at least it has some redeeming qualities.

as the tv series goes on it shows less and less zombies.
want to know why? cuz they can save budget. it's become a glorified soap opera.

AMC decided to kill the only good thing they do all year long in the FearFest horror marathon for this month (its only a week this year) because they feel the need to air EVERYTHING Walking Dead because of the season 8 premiere. TWD has got to be one of the most overrated "horror" shows on television going today.

I have to agree, I loved the show when it came out, but the show as others has mention has become stale and a complete let down. I am going to watch the upcoming season because the new arch has caught my interest. Hopefully it will re-spark my interest in the show.

[The Deadman]

“The Walking Dead” and “Fear the Walking Dead” WILL Soon Collide! (http://bloody-disgusting.com/tv/3463461/walking-dead-fear-walking-dead-will-soon-collide/)

[The Deadman]

Guess What? Even More “The Walking Dead” Spinoffs Coming Soon (http://bloody-disgusting.com/tv/3486766/guess-even-walking-dead-spinoffs-coming-soon/)

HOORAY

[Andrew NDB]

The midseason premiere was all kinds of bad. Last night's episode was surprisingly good.

I had no idea that the only point to the storyline with the junkyard people was literally to develop the leader lady and have her join Rick's gang.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

http://collider.com/andrew-lincoln-leaving-walking-dead-season-9/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=social#images

So, no more Carl... and no more Rick?

No Andrea, no Carl, no Rick... and people wonder why I don't watch the show... :trazz:

[Andrew NDB]

http://collider.com/andrew-lincoln-leaving-walking-dead-season-9/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=social#images

So, no more Carl... and no more Rick?

No Andrea, no Carl, no Rick... and people wonder why I don't watch the show... :trazz:

And Maggie doing part-time only because of her sitcom, too.

Yeah, dumb. If true. And Norman Reedus as the series lead now? Pffft!!!

[Andrew NDB]

Hell of an episode last night, for once. Wow. Really brutal.

[The Deadman]

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[Andrew NDB]

People getting triggered by it, complaining to the FCC (who has no jurisdiction over cable TV):

https://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/news/the-walking-dead-fcc-complaints-offensive-troubling-viewers-whisperers/

[Leo656]

Well that's the pussiest of pussy sh*t if I ever heard it.

[Andrew NDB]

Well that's the pussiest of pussy sh*t if I ever heard it.

Right? Why are these people even being humored?

[Coola Yagami]

I remember a similar waaaahmbulance shitshow when Negan made his debut.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

These people DO realize this is The Walking Dead and not Touched By An Angel, right?

EDIT: The people complaining about commercials for it, though... yeah, THEY have a good point. That's entirely fair.

[Leo656]

Except that most of the revenue from TV is in advertising, and that's one of the most popular shows on TV. So even asking them to only air commercials for it during certain times of day, while reasonable-sounding on paper, simply isn't practical from a dollars-and-cents standpoint.

I look at it like this... when I listen to classic rock stations, I know I'm gonna get hit, at some point, with a Grateful Dead song, because they're part of what that station advertises. Keep in mind, Grateful Dead songs literally give a person brain damage, but they still get heavy rotation and airplay, anyway, despite being very bad for you. As a listener/viewer/participant, I now have to choose where my personal line is drawn. I can suffer through, knowing the song after that one will absolutely be better because it by definition can't get any worse. I can change the station temporarily, to spare myself a moment of grief, while knowing that I also might switch back too late and miss part of something good, but that's the risk inherent. Or, the most extreme reaction, I can simply stop going to that station entirely, since I know for a fact that at some point I'm going to be force-fed something gross, and I have to decide whether the hassle is worth it.

What I most certainly am NOT gonna do, is try and make the rest of the world change its ways in deference to MY personal tastes. I'm not gonna write angry letters and try to annoy the station manager into giving me undue attention, I'm not going to try and get anyone to lose their job, and I'm not going to demand sanctions against the people who run and program content for the station. What I watch or listen to is my own personal choice and responsibility, and I already have plenty of options for how to navigate the wilds of the fields of entertainment, how to filter what I do and don't want to be exposed to.

It's amazing to me how many "grown adults" can't find the maturity to do the same.

I don't watch the show, but I do like the games and have a very small passing familiarity with the comics. There's a group of people out there whose endgame is really simply just, "This kind of thing simply shouldn't be allowed, period." And f*ck those people, never give 'em a single inch. It starts with, "I don't want to see this," and if you concede, it quickly becomes "NOBODY should be allowed to see this, ever," and the line is incredibly thin. They betray themselves with lines about how "sick" and "filthy" and "vile" anyone who could think of or enjoy such programming must be, rather than simply describing them as "mature adults with a clear grasp of the difference between Real and Make-Believe", which is more than can reasonably be said to describe those who complain. The first step in getting people to accept censorship, is in painting anyone who likes something you don't like as a twisted, evil person.

F*ck these sandy-vag'ed Nancys. I don't empathize with them at all. Christ, when I was 7 I walked in on my Dad watching a rather explicit porno movie. I didn't pitch a fit about the horrors I'd just witnessed, I just left the room and snuck downstairs after dark to steal the tape off the top of the bookshelf like a normal person. None of this, "People shouldn't see this kinda thing" nonsense. People need to grow up.

[Andrew NDB]

Finally got the season finale. It was pretty good, though I think the show would benefit from them dialing up the Negan factor. He can be the new Rick. Daryl, he can't do it, and they're not even trying with him (and they shouldn't because Norman Reedus doesn't have that in him).

Though apparently... this isn't the season finale anymore? They're adding 6 more episodes for next year, then making season 11 (the final season) 24 episodes?

[Andrew NDB]

The show takes a stand against people who don't like LGBTQ stuff in the show:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/the-walking-dead-homophobic-backlash-lbgtq-storyline-172258698.html

[Leo656]

I mean... are there not supposed to be any gay people during the zombie apocalypse? I assume there are still straight people.

[neatoman]

So there was a recent comic called "Rick Grimes 2000" that expaned on the alien joke ending of #75, in which:
Rick and several characters thought to be dead come back as cyborgs and fight goofy looking slug aliens who can hulk out, then take over their tech so they can go out in space and continue to kick alien ass.
Anybody thinking AMC might want to adapt that?

[Andrew NDB]

I mean... are there not supposed to be any gay people during the zombie apocalypse? I assume there are still straight people.

If you think about it for a while... the lack of proper showers and bathing in the zombie apocalypse makes a lot of LGBTQ (whether MM or FF) stuff a little more ick. Not impossible by any means, but...

[neatoman]

If you think about it for a while... the lack of proper showers and bathing in the zombie apocalypse makes a lot of LGBTQ (whether MM or FF) stuff a little more ick. Not impossible by any means, but...

... Wouldn't the lack of hygine make... Literally all human activity, sexual or not, a lot more gross?

[Andrew NDB]

... Wouldn't the lack of hygine make... Literally all human activity, sexual or not, a lot more gross?

Yes, of course... but moreso MM/FF stuff. I mean, just think about it.

Vaginas are self-cleaning. For the most part. But after a few months sans bathing... you're probably still not going to want to put your face anywhere near there... or even your hand. That makes FF stuff a little troublesome. Now your, ah, member? Sure. And then you can just tuck it back in your pants, even if it's not particularly super fresh. But a poopy member (and remember, even toilet paper is probably a luxury item at this point so a lot of people could be walking around with "engines hot") with no running water or real way to wash it off effectively, and then the idea being to probably do it again the next day, and the next? Eh... doesn't seem like a good or appealing long term gameplan. So there goes the MM stuff.

At least, I would imagine.

[frank_one]

Vaginas are self-cleaning.Good one :D
I think I stopped watching this series around season 6 or 7. It stopped making any sense around that time. The first three or four seasons were great and Neagan was a really good character.

[Andrew NDB]

Good one :D

What? They are.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/sep/04/the-vagina-is-self-cleaning-so-why-does-the-feminine-hygiene-industry-exist

[Andrew NDB]

So the after-the-end credits scene of "The Walking Dead: World Beyond" series finale had this happen:

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So Runners will be a thing in the Walking Dead shows.

[neatoman]

So the after-the-end credits scene of "The Walking Dead: World Beyond" series finale had this happen:

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So Runners will be a thing in the Walking Dead shows.

Have they run out of comics to adapt yet? Not counting stuff like RG2K of course.

[Andrew NDB]

Have they run out of comics to adapt yet?

Almost. They're about to do the Commonwealth main story, giving Michonne's whole story over to that other lady. I also suspect they're going to give Rick's whole Commonwealth story to Negan.

Then we'll get the Walking Dead movies led by Rick which will probably have some kind of CRM vs. Commonwealth all-out war. And running zombies.

The Daryl & Carol show will be out around then, too. And the anthology "Tales of the Walking Dead" as well.

[Andrew NDB]

The final season wrapped:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/the-walking-dead-wraps-final-season/

[Andrew NDB]

The Rick movies are all cancelled. Instead, they're making a Rick and Michonne series:

https://www.ign.com/articles/the-walking-dead-spin-off-starring-andrew-lincolns-rick-grimes-and-danai-guriras-michonne-announced-for-2023

[mrmaczaps]

This show is still on? Lol

[neatoman]

The Rick movies are all cancelled. Instead, they're making a Rick and Michonne series:

https://www.ign.com/articles/the-walking-dead-spin-off-starring-andrew-lincolns-rick-grimes-and-danai-guriras-michonne-announced-for-2023

So is it safe to assume Rick survives instead of getting shot in bed?

[mrmaczaps]

So is it safe to assume Rick survives instead of getting shot in bed?

Last I knew he had been MIA/assumed dead for a few seasons now... and since him & Michonne are getting a series, he's not dead yet.

[Andrew NDB]

So is it safe to assume Rick survives instead of getting shot in bed?

I was guessing they were going to swap and have Negan be the one to get shot in bed... but clearly not with him getting a new show.

They really love killing the suspense, don't they? The only one we care about that might die is Carol, and that's only because she pulled out of the Daryl and Carol show.