PDA

View Full Version : Coincidence...?


Papenbrook
02-21-2016, 09:47 PM
I have noticed something while rewatching all of the episodes that included the involvement of Timothy/Pulverizer/Mutagen Man. Somehow, Timothy had contact with some kind of vehicle. It seems suspicious...

- In "The Pulverizer", Timothy gets dragged by the Shellraiser, into the turtles' lair. Later on in the episode, he drives the Shellraiser.

- In "The Pulverizer Returns", Timothy runs into a vehicle (presumably a car) twice. In addition, he gets tied to a motorcycle. Once he gets mutated, the Pulverizer is placed on a motorcycle by the turtles.

- In "Mutagen Man Unleashed", Timothy knocks over some cars. Afterwards, he gets hit by a truck.

Do you think this is foreshadowing Timothy's fate, or is it some kind of running gag? Discuss below.

TurtleTitan97
02-21-2016, 09:49 PM
You're overthinking it.

snake
02-21-2016, 09:54 PM
I don't think this show is smart enough for that kind of foreshadowing.

ToTheNines
02-21-2016, 09:57 PM
Who's Mutagen Man?

Utrommaniac
02-21-2016, 10:00 PM
It would have suited Timothy's fate better if it came out that he would meet his doom by a vehicle. So, no.

It's not quite like how Grunkle Stan's "burning" was foreshadowed in Gravity Falls by effigies of him catching fire or melting, especially since he was a much more significant character than Timothy was.

Papenbrook
02-21-2016, 10:10 PM
Who's Mutagen Man?

Mutagen Man is Timothy and the Pulverizer.

GoldMutant
02-21-2016, 10:13 PM
Or it's because they want to convey Timothy as both the Pulverizer and Mutagen Man as a klutzy individual. His joy of being a hero and desperation for acceptance leads to Timothy's "accidental" crashes. In addition, those two moments as a human were meant to get to the next scenes, as if a transition due to the situations (the crystal in The Pulverizer and escaping the explosive warehouse in The Pulverizer Returns!). Lastly, it's mostly slapstick at best with MM and the truck; also, be sure to be careful when crossing a street kids! :P

So, if you're suggesting he's going to be hit by a vehicle and die, I don't think the writers are going to be that cruel. No way a mutant or superhuman gets hit by a vehicle and dies, injured maybe but not killed. Sorry, but you are overthinking on the character, one at this point honestly has no resolution until otherwise.

Powder
02-21-2016, 10:33 PM
Interesting coincidences, certainly, good catch. While it being foreshadowing is possible, I doubt that's the case.

shuriken
02-22-2016, 03:43 AM
^^Maybe. But...
You're overthinking it.

I agree with this guy.

Splinter the boss
02-22-2016, 01:24 PM
That is overthinking it. Why would they kill him? He hasn't done anything wrong.
He was just annoying, that's all.

Aaronardo
02-22-2016, 03:52 PM
Who's Mutagen Man?

Me too.

Dude, this show isn't exactly as clever as Gravity Falls. Stop treating it like it is.

TurFlytle
02-22-2016, 09:18 PM
Me too.

Dude, this show isn't exactly as clever as Gravity Falls. Stop treating it like it is.

TBH, the writers ignore every plot point and never bring it up again because they forgot. I bet they'll never turn Timothy back considering he turned into a decoration. I wish he joined the Shredder like in the OT. I know Roger Craig Smith is busy at the moment, so why not get Seth Green?

OrangeNinja1987
02-22-2016, 09:34 PM
I noticed something while rewatching all the episodes that included the involvement of Timothy/Pulverizer/Mutagen Man. Somehow, Timothy had contact with some kind of vehicle. It seems suspicious...

- In "The Pulverizer", Timothy gets dragged by the Shellraiser, into the turtles' lair. Later on in the episode, he drives the Shellraiser.

- In "The Pulverizer Returns", Timothy runs into a vehicle (presumably a car) twice. In addition, he gets tied to a motorcycle. Once he gets mutated, the Pulverizer is placed on a motorcycle by the turtles.

- In "Mutagen Man Unleashed", Timothy knocks over some cars. Afterwards, he gets hit by a truck.

Do you think this is foreshadowing Timothy's fate, or is it some kind of running gag? Discuss below.

Vehicles are a common object that most of humanity interacts with on a daily basis. Are you saying it's anything "foreshadowed" or "alluded to" if someone drives their car to work and then the next day they ride the bus?
Is it more than a "coincidence" that the turtles drive their own cars but have also almost gotten hit by a car more than once (such as Raph in that episode with Spiderbytez). Does that mean they'll get hit by a car and die because their is some allusion in those two tiny, unimportant facts about them??
"Hey, he rode two vehicles! FOOOOREESHADOOOWWINNG!"
This has got to be the highest level of overthinking I've seen on this forum yet.

Powder
02-22-2016, 10:20 PM
TBH, the writers ignore every plot point and never bring it up again because they forgot.

Oh please, I'm so sick of seeing people say this. You don't just forget your body of work, & even if you could, there's no way it'd happen with how often they're harassed by obsessive fans who have no sense of boundaries & harp them about this kinda thing. I'm sure it's just been put on the back-burner for one reason or another, not forgotten.

Aaronardo
02-23-2016, 04:54 PM
Oh please, I'm so sick of seeing people say this. You don't just forget your body of work, & even if you could, there's no way it'd happen with how often they're harassed by obsessive fans who have no sense of boundaries & harp them about this kinda thing. I'm sure it's just been put on the back-burner for one reason or another, not forgotten.

Come on, when was the last time you heard the word "Timothy" in this show? Last time I remember was a very brief scene in "The Invasion" almost two seasons ago. That's one hell of a back-burner.

Powder
02-23-2016, 11:40 PM
There's no real reason to bring his name up other than to satisfy fans who think a thing that goes unmentioned is forgotten.

srmff
02-24-2016, 10:28 AM
Come on, when was the last time you heard the word "Timothy" in this show? Last time I remember was a very brief scene in "The Invasion" almost two seasons ago. That's one hell of a back-burner.

He was mentioned in season 3 episode 15 by Muckman. It was only a mention but they clearly haven't forgotten him.

Papenbrook
02-25-2016, 03:51 PM
You folks are right. Maybe I am overthinking it...

Papenbrook
10-08-2017, 10:44 AM
I just realized that the writers were trying to foreshadow Timothy's fate. His fate ... was being a tragically comical joke.

I don't think the writers were truly invested in exploring Timothy's character. The writers didn't even end his own arc. So, maybe all of his episodes were a metaphor for his fate, which was dying pointlessly.

That's ... comically tragic ...

PApagreg
10-08-2017, 12:00 PM
Oh please, I'm so sick of seeing people say this. You don't just forget your body of work, & even if you could, there's no way it'd happen with how often they're harassed by obsessive fans who have no sense of boundaries & harp them about this kinda thing. I'm sure it's just been put on the back-burner for one reason or another, not forgotten.

You would be surprised, Akira Toriyama forgot about Launch in DBZ

CyberCubed
10-08-2017, 12:42 PM
They decided to leave Timmy as a tragic character. In his ep in Season 1 he wants to get mutated and purposely poured down the mutagen on himself while Don and the other Turtles kept trying to pull him away. Timmy brought his fate upon himself.

I do think originally the writers planned to de-mutate him during the Season 2 era, but for some reason changed their minds. I guess they decided to leave him as a tragic character.

victory_angel
10-08-2017, 01:19 PM
They decided to leave Timmy as a tragic character. In his ep in Season 1 he wants to get mutated and purposely poured down the mutagen on himself while Don and the other Turtles kept trying to pull him away. Timmy brought his fate upon himself.

I do think originally the writers planned to de-mutate him during the Season 2 era, but for some reason changed their minds. I guess they decided to leave him as a tragic character.

Originally they wanted him to be a reoccurring villain in season two. But they couldn't use him because the voice actor became unattainable when he began voicing for other projects.

CyberCubed
10-08-2017, 01:27 PM
Given how Mutagen Man's voice is altered by the computer module Don attached to his container, that's the most bizarre thing the writers could have said given they could have recast him easily and nobody would know the difference.

Ninjinister
10-08-2017, 02:53 PM
You would be surprised, Akira Toriyama forgot about Launch in DBZ

Toriyama has forgotten half of the cast. The man's almost as absent-minded as me.

Originally they wanted him to be a reoccurring villain in season two. But they couldn't use him because the voice actor became unattainable when he began voicing for other projects.

Uh... [citation needed]. Not that I don't think Smith became too busy, because he is in like 100 things a year, but since this show has never been one to shy away from recasting, I find that hard to believe.