2016 Oscars

[Krutch]

Anybody catch the show?

I generally don't watch these things for a myriad of reasons but I caught Chris Rock's opening speech and, um... well, what do you guys think? Agree and much needed commentary? Disagree? Not the right place or time?

[NinjaPug]

Inarritu shouldn't have won. Thankfully Spotlight beat The Revenant for Best Picture. Also very happy to see Fury Road take home the most Oscars.

[Krutch]

I thought Fury Road was an alright movie, not really my thing... but I'm also not blind to what makes it so popular and what makes it so well made. Still, a little shocked by just how much a movie like that racked up wins and nominations. I feel like backing that movie is more of a battlecry for change than anything else. I don't understand how a movie like Mad Max: Fury Road can get that many nominations while superhero movies are just discarded as mindless entertainment unless an actor dies just before it's release.

[Amaranthus]

What the hell?
Heath Ledger's performance in The Dark Knight was amazing. Have some respect.

[Krutch]

Whoa, calm down. I never said his award wasn't deserved. I was saying how the Oscars never look at superhero movies and the only time they did, you could be argue, was because of Ledgers death and the backlash they might receive if they didn't recognize his performance.

[Amaranthus]

Whoa, calm down. I never said his award wasn't deserved. I was saying how the Oscars never look at superhero movies. And the only time they did could be argued was because of Ledgers death.

Today's Marvel movies aren't exactly Oscar material.

[Krutch]

Different strokes, but, how do you define Oscar material?

I mean, compare Guardians of the Galaxy to Mad Max: Fury Road and explain to me how one garners 10 award nominations, 6 wins and the other Nominated 2 and wins 0.

[TigerClaw]

It was nice to see Mad Max: Fury Road take home 6 Oscars, Best costume design, Best production design, Best make-up and hair, Best editing, Best sound editing, and Best sound mixing.

It didn't win in the Visual FX, that went to Ex Machina.

Star Wars: The Force Awakens did not win any awards.

As for Spotlight wining the Best Pictures, the Academy tends to pick movies that deal with serious topics, rather them something more fictional like Scifi and Fantasy these days.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I thought it was hilarious when Chris Rocks's daughter started selling girl scout cookies.

[Amaranthus]

Different strokes, but, how do you define Oscar material?

I mean, compare Guardians of the Galaxy to Mad Max: Fury Road and explain to me how one garners 10 award nominations, 6 wins and the other Nominated 2 and wins 0.

Guardians really wasn't that good.

[TurtleTitan97]

Guardians really wasn't that good.

https://49.media.tumblr.com/3f379b8123c979cc075f4742c6320701/tumblr_n9ajlowCLB1sel77co1_400.gif

[Krutch]

Guardians really wasn't that good.
Well at least you have this all well thought out :trolleye:

[Amaranthus]

Well at least you have this all well thought out :trolleye:

What is that even supposed to mean?
What am I supposed to have well thought out.
Please do enlighten me.

[Krutch]

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[Amaranthus]

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Using reaction images won't help your case.
I didn't like Guardians. Calling me a troll because my opinion differs from yours proves you can't handle people not liking what you like.
Did I ever insult you for liking it? No. So why don't you calm down and deal with it?

[Krutch]

Oh, boy... I asked you to explain how two films, with similar or equal production values, gets two completely different receptions at the Oscars. Your response was "Guardians really wasn't that good." I wasn't attacking your opinion on the movie and I could care less if you didn't like it or not. I was just hoping you'd offer more insight as to why you think the oscars would favour one over the other instead of just "meh, I didn't like it, so, makes sense." I also asked how you define Oscar material, but that went unanswered as well.

[Amaranthus]

Oh, boy... I asked you to explain how two films, with similar or equal production values, gets two completely different receptions at the Oscars. Your response was "Guardians really wasn't that good." I wasn't attacking your opinion on the movie and I could care less if you didn't like it or not. I was just hoping you'd offer more insight as to why you think the oscars would favour one over the other instead of just "meh, I didn't like it, so, makes sense."

So you're asking me to explain why Fury Road (which I haven't seen yet but I know I'd love it) received Oscar nominations and Guardians didn't? Why?
I don't have an exact definition of Oscar material. But most capesh*t movies (especially mediocre Marvel movies) just aren't good enough to deserve such awards (maybe for special effects and/or the actors, but that's it).
It's I couldn't care less, by the way. ;)

[Krutch]

*sigh*...:trolleye:

[Powder]

GOTG was poorly acted by most of its leads. Great in every other way, but yeah... As for the Fury Road bias, chalk it up to Girl Power.

[Amaranthus]

*sigh*...:trolleye:

Oh my, I'm being such an assh*le. Just look at all those mean insults I've posted. Boo hoo.
I said Marvel's movies aren't Oscar material. Then you ask me to explain why Mad Max won and Guardians didn't. They're two very different movies.

GOTG was poorly acted by most of its leads. Great in every other way, but yeah...

I didn't like it at all but I don't want to argue about it (someone once told me Star Wars sucked and GotG was great and that made my blood boil, however).

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

This many posts and nobody's talking DiCaprio.

You guys keep on fighting the... well, not good fight. Whatever it is you're doing.

[Krutch]

Oh my, I'm being such an assh*le. Just look at all those mean insults I've posted. Boo hoo.
I said Marvel's movies aren't Oscar material. Then you ask me to explain why Mad Max got nominated and Guardians didn't (even though that came out in 2014). They're two very different movies.
Um...I didn't say anything. Can't a guy just sigh and roll his eyes without someone taking it personally? Geez, relax. You're so uptight :D

Someone once told me Star Wars sucked and GotG was great and that made my blood boil, however.
Someone had a point :lol:

[Amaranthus]

Um...I didn't say anything. Can't a guy just sigh and roll his eyes without someone taking it personally? Geez, relax. You're so uptight :D


Someone had a point :lol:

I'm sure you thought that would upset me.
Think again. You're only proving how incredibly butthurt you are. I don't even understand why you're upset.

[Krutch]

I'm sure you thought that would upset me.
Think again.
I like you. I hope you stick around 8)

GOTG was poorly acted by most of its leads. Great in every other way, but yeah... As for the Fury Road bias, chalk it up to Girl Power.
Yup. That's definitely a card at play.

This many posts and nobody's talking DiCaprio.
I haven't seen The Revenant but it's been a long time coming. I'm happy for him. Double points for making his acceptance speech about an actual issue instead of the usual stuff.

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edited to accomodate Amaranthus' feelings.

[Amaranthus]

Oh hey, look. It's someone calling me a kid to discredit my opinion.
Never saw that one coming. Just like that super edgy reaction meme.

[Krutch]

Better now?

[NinjaPug]

Chalk up the Fury Road love fest to girl power? GTFO with that nonsense.

[Amaranthus]

Better now?

After you've called me a troll and insulted the things I like? Sure man! No problem!

[TurtleTitan97]

This many posts and nobody's talking DiCaprio.


Guess that means no more DiCaprio Ocscar memes. Tis truly the end of an era...

[Krutch]

After you've called me a troll and insulted the things I like? Sure man! No problem!Sweet! Moving on, then..

Chalk up the Fury Road love fest to girl power? GTFO with that nonsense.
It's a factor to at least consider. Not the entire reason; its a well made film.

[NinjaPug]

No it is not a factor to consider at all. Wtf does having an awesome character who happens to be female have to do with them winning sound editing, costume design, etc? Nothing.

[Utrommaniac]

This many posts and nobody's talking DiCaprio.

The meme can die!

What did he get it for?

[Amaranthus]

The meme can die!

What did he get it for?

You're on the goddamn internet.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

The meme can die!

What did he get it for?

The Titanic, apparently.

"I'll never let you go..."

[TigerClaw]

Sweet! Moving on, then..
Just ignore him, his posts mean nothing to the overall discussion on this thread.

I think this years Oscars was great, Chris Rock did a great job hosting, and poking fun at all the racial stuff.

[Amaranthus]

Just ignore him, his posts mean nothing to the overall discussion on this thread.

Shut the hell up. Not only did I never do anything wrong to begin with. The argument (if you can even call it that) ended quite some time ago.
Go spam the PD section or something.

[Powder]

No it is not a factor to consider at all. Wtf does having an awesome character who happens to be female have to do with them winning sound editing, costume design, etc? Nothing.

The question was what makes it stand apart from comic book & other sci-fi/fantasy romp-fest films in the eyes of whomever runs these things. & my answer, "Chalk it up to Girl Power", is most definitely a small part of that.

[Amaranthus]

There may have been a slight miscommunication between me and my homeboy Krutch.
I was solely talking about Mad Max' nomination for best picture in comparison to today's superhero movies.
I'll never forgive you for dissing Star Wars though.

[ZariusTwo]

Guardians really wasn't that good.

Marry me.:D

[Amaranthus]

Marry me.:D

I was waiting for you to arrive because I'm too much of a dumbass to defend my own opinion.
Protect me, Zarius. PLEASE!

[TigerClaw]

Shut the hell up. Not only did I never do anything wrong to begin with. The argument (if you can even call it that) ended quite some time ago.
Go spam the PD section or something.
See what I mean? just ignore his nonsense, which has nothing to do with this thread.

[Amaranthus]

See what I mean? just ignore his nonsense, which has nothing to do with this thread.

It's a good thing you're are a lovely person.

[TigerClaw]

It's a good thing you're dumb or I would have schooled your ass so hard.
See, its these type of comments on why he should be ignored and ex-communicated.

[Amaranthus]

See, its these type of comments on why he should be ignored and ex-communicated.

My nama chef.

[Krutch]

Hey, remember that time I made a thread about the Oscars? Those were good times...

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm starting to see why so many of the cool people left this place. Fare thee well, Pennydreadful... I may soon join thee in thy exodus.

Oscars. Green guy in a trash can? What's that got to do with Leo DiCaprio?

[TigerClaw]

Hey, remember that time I made a thread about the Oscars? Those were good times...
Yeah, Remember when Leonardo DiCaprio got on stage to get his Oscar? :)
https://twitter.com/JamiesRabbits/status/704082382735994880

[Krutch]

Haha! That's awesome.

[Candy Kappa]

Yeah, Remember when Leonardo DiCaprio got on stage to get his Oscar? :)
https://twitter.com/JamiesRabbits/status/704082382735994880

That's fantastic. :lol:

[TurtleTitan97]

Yeah, Remember when Leonardo DiCaprio got on stage to get his Oscar? :)
https://twitter.com/JamiesRabbits/status/704082382735994880

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[plastroncafe]

I still can't believe Theron didn't get nominated for Furiosa, that's a damn shame.
Still pleased as punch that Mad Max won best editing. That woman is a machine, and deserved that little gold man ten times over.

Glad Leo finally got his Oscar, mostly so maybe he'll start making movies that don't just scream: GIVE ME AN OSCAR!

Stoked Brie Larson won an award. I've always enjoyed her work. In particular on "The United States of Tara" and of course "Scott Pilgrim." (I love that movie like burning)

Didn't really catch any of the other Big Name movies out this year.
I'm curious to catch Spotlight, just to see if their geography is any good.
Room intrigues me, but I'll be honest...I have a feeling it'd just make me mad. (Plas does not like No-Win situations)
No interest in Revenant. Torture porn is not my jam.

I've heard good things about Ex-Machina, and Brooklyn looks good. Same for Carol.

[*NormalGamer*]

So, Leo finally got an Oscar; about time.

Also, congrats on Fury Road for winning it's oscars; same for other nominated movies that won an Oscar, too. ^_^

Maybe next year for Oscars 2017 we should see some diversity again, this time.

[TigerClaw]

I still can't believe Theron didn't get nominated for Furiosa, that's a damn shame.
Still pleased as punch that Mad Max won best editing. That woman is a machine, and deserved that little gold man ten times over.

Glad Leo finally got his Oscar, mostly so maybe he'll start making movies that don't just scream: GIVE ME AN OSCAR!

Stoked Brie Larson won an award. I've always enjoyed her work. In particular on "The United States of Tara" and of course "Scott Pilgrim." (I love that movie like burning)

Didn't really catch any of the other Big Name movies out this year.
I'm curious to catch Spotlight, just to see if their geography is any good.
Room intrigues me, but I'll be honest...I have a feeling it'd just make me mad. (Plas does not like No-Win situations)
No interest in Revenant. Torture porn is not my jam.

I've heard good things about Ex-Machina, and Brooklyn looks good. Same for Carol.
I'm sure he's gonna be offered more roles, every time someone wins an Oscar for Best Actor or Actress, they become high in demand by the studios to cast them in there latest films.

and it usually does good for the movies from a marketing standpoint, they would see it cause it has an academy award winner involved.

Over the years Leo has done many small movies, now he can star in bigger budget movies.

[plastroncafe]

Because he didn't do that before?
(Eyes Titanic, Catch Me If You Can, Django Unchained, Gatsby)

Also of note from the show: Gaga's performance. While I'm sad she didn't win for Best Song, I'm glad she performed. In all white, which I thought was a nice touch.

[TigerClaw]

Because he didn't do that before?
(Eyes Titanic, Catch Me If You Can, Django Unchained, Gatsby)

Also of note from the show: Gaga's performance. While I'm sad she didn't win for Best Song, I'm glad she performed. In all white, which I thought was a nice touch.
Oh I meant other big budget movies, I would like to see him in a Scifi or Fantasy movie.

Before he was famous, He was in Critters 3.

9SqBCnt-psI

[plastroncafe]

Oh I meant other big budget movies, I would like to see him in a Scifi or Fantasy movie.

Before he was famous, He was in Critters 3.

9SqBCnt-psI

I remember him more for his stint on Growing Pains than anything else.
That's when he made all the covers of Tiger and Teen beat.

But it wasn't until Catch Me if You Can that I took notice of him as an actor....rather than just another Hollywood pretty face.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Room intrigues me, but I'll be honest...I have a feeling it'd just make me mad. (Plas does not like No-Win situations)
No interest in Revenant. Torture porn is not my jam.

I've heard good things about Ex-Machina, and Brooklyn looks good. Same for Carol.

#1. You and I agree on "Room." That sounds like the single-most depressing film I could ever watch; I will be avoiding it, as I avoid all films that make me angry that I can't do anything to solve those problems. Gah.

#2. Ex-Machina is AMAZING. You simply must watch that as soon as possible. Please, it's a beautiful film.

[Amaranthus]

#1. You and I agree on "Room." That sounds like the single-most depressing film I could ever watch; I will be avoiding it, as I avoid all films that make me angry that I can't do anything to solve those problems. Gah.

#2. Ex-Machina is AMAZING. You simply must watch that as soon as possible. Please, it's a beautiful film.

Whenever I hear Ex-Machine I think about CinemaSins. It's tearing me apart.

[plastroncafe]

#2. Ex-Machina is AMAZING. You simply must watch that as soon as possible. Please, it's a beautiful film.

It's got Oscar Issac in it, doesn't it?
I will follow Poe Dameron anywhere.

[TigerClaw]

It's got Oscar Issac in it, doesn't it?
I will follow Poe Dameron anywhere.
It also has Domhnall Gleeson in it, General Hux from The Force Awakens.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It's got Oscar Issac in it, doesn't it?
I will follow Poe Dameron anywhere.

You are correct. In a movie with three main characters and practically no supporting cast, everyone in it excels.

I really wish I'd seen it in theaters...

[Autbot_Benz]

Sly Stallone should have won best supporting actor but they gave it to a nobody instead :x

[Vicky82]

Sly Stallone should have won best supporting actor but they gave it to a nobody instead :x

He's not a nobody, he's a British actor :D

But anyway I'm glad Leonardo won, he deserves it.

[ZariusTwo]

Sly Stallone should have won best supporting actor but they gave it to a nobody instead :x

Do shut up.

[plastroncafe]

Didn't see Creed, but if Sly's performance was on par with what he gave us in The Expendables,....then no. He wasn't robbed.

Not in the slightest.

[THGhost]

I personally think Eddie Redmayne or Bryan Cranston deserved to win Best Actor, not Leonardo DiCaprio. I also think Steve Carell should have been nominated and won Best Supporting Actor for The Big Short. Other than I'm satisfied with all of the other winners, especially Ex-Machinina winning Best Visual Effects and Alicia Vikander winning Best Supporting Actress.

He's not a nobody, he's a British actor :D

Well I'm British and I've never heard of him. ;)

[NinjaPug]

Come on now - of course Leo should've won.....The Revenant was a really really really really really really really really tough shoot physically. Just ask Leo and Inarritu.

[Utrommaniac]

I guess deliberately slamming his fist on glass in the middle of filming just wasn't enough. It was time for the big leagues.

[snake]

The Revenant had a lot of pointless stuff that Leo did to "enhance" his preformance (eating a real liver when a fake one would've been fine) but it's a beautiful movie. Hard as f*ck to film but it paid off.

[AT-Man]

Tom Hardy should have gotten an Oscar rather than Leo. Ex Machina winning was a surprise, but after Mad Max I'd rather have that one than any of the others in that category. I'm also glad that The Revenant didn't get the best picture. Inside Out and The Hateful Eight definitely deserved their Oscars. The best thing about the evening was Mad Max hogging 6 Oscars.

[MikeandRaph87]

I wish Blockbuster that are appreciated $ wise and audience wise would get recognition. Star Wars Episode 7, the best movie of the year did not even win for best score? That is truly messed up. Spotlight was good, not great. I have no problem with it winning. That makes two best pictures in a row for Michael Keaton. Has there many any actor that appeared in consecutive best pictures?

[THGhost]

The Revenant was a really really really really really really really really tough shoot physically. Just ask Leo and Inarritu.

That doesn't mean he deserved to win it though. He should have won it for The Wolf of Wall Street, now that was some acting.

[AT-Man]

Star Wars Episode 7, the best movie of the year did not even win for best score?

Most popular doesn't mean the best. And The Hateful Eight had better score, no doubt.

[THGhost]

Most popular doesn't mean the best. And The Hateful Eight had better score, no doubt.

Exactly. And The Force Awakens being "the best movie of the year" is a pretty bold statement.

[MikeandRaph87]

I think the average movie goer would agree. It was my favorite movie at least. Blockbusters are usually better than whatever wins. I loved Argo from the preview and enjoy it. Most best pictures just seem to be statement making. My #2 favorite was Bridge of Spies followed by The Martian.

[THGhost]

the average movie goer

Those words sicken me. :P

[NinjaPug]

That doesn't mean he deserved to win it though. He should have won it for The Wolf of Wall Street, now that was some acting.

I was being sarcastic. I thought the use of multiple reallys would've made that obvious.

[THGhost]

I was being sarcastic. I thought the use of multiple reallys would've made that obvious.

You'd think that, but no. Sarcasm never works online. Never. Unless you literally put "I'm being sarcastic" afterwards. :P

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/e5/e55869ca476f6898c241b333694be6920c9dfbb386007ad448 dbe1082bf4fc50.jpg

[JTH]

You'd think that, but no. Sarcasm never works online. Never. Unless you literally put "I'm being sarcastic" afterwards. :P

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/e5/e55869ca476f6898c241b333694be6920c9dfbb386007ad448 dbe1082bf4fc50.jpg
That's why I do it like this.

Star Wars: TFA Sucks!

THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT IS 100% SARCASM AND SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY IN THE SLIGHTEST!!! Thank you.

[snake]

I wish Blockbuster that are appreciated $ wise and audience wise would get recognition. Star Wars Episode 7, the best movie of the year did not even win for best score? That is truly messed up. Spotlight was good, not great. I have no problem with it winning. That makes two best pictures in a row for Michael Keaton. Has there many any actor that appeared in consecutive best pictures?

TFA didn't deserve any awards.


-a huge star wars fan who liked it

[THGhost]

That's why I do it like this.

Star Wars: TFA Sucks!

THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT IS 100% SARCASM AND SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY IN THE SLIGHTEST!!! Thank you.

Nailed it.

[snake]

Deep down Leo knows the biggest reason he won is because the mainstream audience wanted him to win.

[NinjaPug]

TFA didn't deserve any awards.


-a huge star wars fan who liked it

Yep. I enjoyed TFA but there was nothing special about it. I was even upset that John Williams got the nomination over Junkie XL for Best Score.

[snake]

Yep. I enjoyed TFA but there was nothing special about it. I was even upset that John Williams got the nomination over Junkie XL for Best Score.

The score for TFA f*cking sucked. Star Wars movies have amazing scores (all of them) and TFA didn't have one track I can even remember.

[THGhost]

Deep down Leo knows the biggest reason he won is because the mainstream audience wanted him to win.

So true. I am glad that he finally has an Oscar now though, regardless of whether he actually deserved it or not.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Rey's Theme was the one single highlight of the score.

Junkie XL should have been nominated over Williams. Williams is no doubt an amazing composer, duh, but TFA was in no way a Star Wars-ey score. I don't know if Williams has transcended that style or wanted to do something different. He did amazing work on the prequels, so it's not as if the OT was his only great Star Wars run. :/

It was a good score, per se, but it did not fit the film at all.

[snake]

Rey's Theme was the one single highlight of the score.

Junkie XL should have been nominated over Williams. Williams is no doubt an amazing composer, duh, but TFA was in no way a Star Wars-ey score. I don't know if Williams has transcended that style or wanted to do something different. He did amazing work on the prequels, so it's not as if the OT was his only great Star Wars run. :/

It was a good score, per se, but it did not fit the film at all.

I can't even remember Rey's theme. Only a vague note from it (were there flutes?)

Not even joking, I saw TFA 3 times and I can't remember a single piece.

[ToTheNines]

Not even joking, I saw TFA 3 times and I can't remember a single piece.

Same here. He phoned it in.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I can't even remember Rey's theme. Only a vague note from it (were there flutes?)

Yeah. That's literally the only memorable or hummable piece.

But I don't think Star Wars won anything, did it? Just as well, I think it was kind of a garbage movie. Expensive, but still garbage.

[TigerClaw]

Just found this, it looked like Leo was giving everyone the finger.

http://i.imgur.com/68fYG6C.jpg

[Krutch]

Yeah the score was disappointing. Maybe George just has a better way of communicating what he wants with John than JJ does?

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Yeah the score was disappointing. Maybe George just has a better way of communicating what he wants with John than JJ does?

Miller worked with Holkenborg (Junkie's real name :P) for literally years on the score.

I wonder if JJ wanted a Michael Giacchino score from Williams (Super 8, Star Trek, Into Darkness, and M:I 3 are previous collaborations between Abrams and Giacchino; how much of those scores do you remember?), or if he turned Williams loose, 'cause it's freaking John Williams, and let him experiment however he wanted.

[NinjaPug]

The TFA score has grown on me the more I listen to it but it's very underwhelming compared to what has come before. I like Rey's Theme and The Jedi Steps the most but both are on the bottom of SW tracks. I'm curious what they with the VIII score.

My favorite part of the Oscars was hearing them play Brothers in Arms repeatedly when Fury Road kept winning.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Since I'm a sound geek my favorite part was this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlPX5Zkiw4Q).

[ProactiveMan]

Making sense of the Academy Awards is a sisyphean task, and I salute you all for trying. I can never square the dissonance between best Picture and Best Director. I think most of the time, if the Winner of Best Director didn't direct the Best Picture, then neither is true.

[ssjup81]

I've always wondered how people are nominated and voted on.

[THGhost]

I've always wondered how people are nominated and voted on.

By old, white, out-of-touch men, AKA, The Academy.