What is the ONE aspect you would like to change in the Nick series?

[Papenbrook]

If I had a choice, I would lower the amount of mutations that occur in the show.

Lately, I feel that there are too many mutants. Decreasing the amount of mutants/mutations on the show would reap positive results.

- There would be more screen time dedicated to character development and world building, since the show would focus on not having an excess amount of mutations/mutants.

- The turtles/Splinter would be more "unique". Since there would only be a certain amount of mutants/mutations, the turtles/Splinter would be able to stand out more.

- They show would be able to introduce a variety of characters that aren't mutants. ( For example, characters that are humans, ghosts, demons, etc.)

That is the one aspect I would like to change. Discuss your thoughts below.

[plastroncafe]

Realizing I'm not the target demographic for this show, the only thing I'd like to see is Donnie's creeping tendencies put an end to.

And maybe they are by this point, I'm more than a few episodes behind, but that's the most irksome thing about the show for me.

[Splinter the boss]

As you mentioned, there are too many mutations. I'd like it to change as well.

One other thing is that they should wrap up some old plots that are quickly becoming forgotten, like Timothy Plot, Karai plot, Newtralizer plot. For the love of God, he hasn't showed up in the Salamandrians episode. Hopefully he does later, because he's got some unfinished business with Slash.

Last thing is that Xever, and Bradford need more screen time.

[Aaronardo]

I'd do something about all those mutations as well, but what I'd really like to see is them bringing back that entertaining bickering among the Turtles you'd hear in Season 1. Those were always fun scenes.

[neatoman]

If there's only only thing I can choose I might need to think about it. Right now I'd say they probably should have been more careful about how they treated the storyline, it comes across as rather fillery (is that even a word?) and like it discards/alters developtments too much.

[Ninturtle]

I'd bring back the season 1 writers, they were way better.

[thundermaster612]

The fact that they wont show us Don and Leo's rooms (they almost did in the Animated Adventures comics)

[snake]

I'd bring back the season 1 writers, they were way better.

This. I'd erase everything post season one and keep those writers.

[GoldMutant]

Honestly, several things:

Even though season 2 I prefer over 1 due to the season sticking out more in my mind, I do agree the main issue is the lack of a coherent narrative. Season 1 triumphs quite a bit with that; however, my issue was the story felt rather slow in season 1 with business only picking up right at Never Say Xever. Episodes such as Old Friend, New Enemy and It Came From the Depths were good, but somewhat rushed a little bit. Season 2 may have the pacing I personally prefer, but what good is it without a good narrative? As a result, several plots have died out whether due to change in writers or the lack of time for voice actors; such examples are Trejo, Craig Smith, and Combs.

Despite my disdain for the majority of relationships and partially the mutations, the writing is what honestly needs to be fixed. There's shining examples of brilliance after season 1; Wrath of Tiger Claw, The Invasion, Serpent Hunt, personally Casey Jones vs the Underworld are really good. The issue is their placement in their respective seasons barring Invasion; that's ultimately what is killing the show. The writing went from having strong connections between interactions and overall plots turning more into a toy marketing show again for the Turtles. I'm not asking for everything to extend into an arc, but at the very least go for stronger writing.

Fix up the writing and (personally) the love affairs and tonal shifts then the show has potential to get back on track. Also, didn't you make a thread like this before, or someone did to this extent?

[CyberCubed]

The show is fine the way it is, but I'd prefer more human enemies than mutants all the time.

[plastroncafe]

This. I'd erase everything post season one and keep those writers.

If we can keep the new character designs along the way, then I'm game.

[Amaranthus]

I'd add more ass-shots.

[Ninturtle]

If we can keep the new character designs along the way, then I'm game.

The characters designs are the one thing that the show is improving.

[ToTheNines]

Realizing I'm not the target demographic for this show, the only thing I'd like to see is Donnie's creeping tendencies put an end to.

And maybe they are by this point, I'm more than a few episodes behind, but that's the most irksome thing about the show for me.

Probably this.

If not, I'd have preferred it if "Karai" had been named Pimiko, or just been Miwa, or any other random Japanese name. Making her Karai in name only bars them from utilizing a more Mirage-esque Karai, which is a shame considering the crew is comprised of plenty of Mirage fans and that's the best version of the character.

Then again it might be for the best. It might be tough for a kids show to adapt City at War without butchering it.

[dudeabides]

Put season 2 out on a complete dvd set so you don't have to buy the separate discs... like they did eventually on season 1.

[ToTheNines]

Put season 2 out on a complete dvd set so you don't have to buy the separate discs... like they did eventually on season 1.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B011MUA27W/ref=pd_aw_sim_74_of_11?ie=UTF8&dpID=51Xil7Et%2B1L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_SL500_SR100%2C100_&refRID=0BHP1ACHXK2V47DQ2RAP

This requires double dipping on season 1, but there ya go.

[Ninjinister]

I'd have them keep the Vision Quest gear permanently.

The fact that they wont show us Don and Leo's rooms (they almost did in the Animated Adventures comics)

That's an odd thing to care about.

[MikeandRaph87]

I would stop giving old names to new characters. It prevents the old characters from actually showing up. So many examples such as neutrinos being nothing like the Dimension X race.

[TurtleGuy]

Less Kraang. As in not making everything involve the Kraang.

April O'neil? Was half-Kraang all along.

April's "mother"? Kraang experiment all along.

Irma? Kraang all along.

Human evolution? Kraang all along.

Every conspiracy ever? Kraang all along.

You see where I'm getting at this? Pretty much almost everything that happened? The Kraang was most likely behind it.

[GoldMutant]

Less Kraang. As in not making everything involving the Kraang.

April O'neil? Was half-Kraang all along.

April's "mother"? Kraang experiment all along.

Irma? Kraang all along.

Human evolution? Kraang all along.

Every conspiracy ever? Kraang all along.

You see where I'm getting at this?

How much you wanna bet Kraang Subprime says this some where down the line, or Prime: youtube.com/watchv=cNgxyL5zEAk

[The Turtle Terminator]

I'd like to see EITHER:

Lots more character development

Closure of old plot holes such as Karai, Mutagen Man, mutations

Have the one-shot characters start a city at war of sorts (TMNT and mutanimals vs kraang vs foot vs other mutants)

Stop the "half season focused on large plots, mid season finale begin main season plot until season finale" formula

[Ninjinister]

Less Kraang. As in not making everything involve the Kraang.

April O'neil? Was half-Kraang all along.

April's "mother"? Kraang experiment all along.

Irma? Kraang all along.

Human evolution? Kraang all along.

Every conspiracy ever? Kraang all along.

You see where I'm getting at this? Pretty much almost everything that happened? The Kraang was most likely behind it.

https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1629/24941162543_39071f51e6_o.jpg

[Powder]

Stop the "half season focused on large plots, mid season finale begin main season plot until season finale" formula

Nothing really comes to mind for me so I'll go with this.

[DarkLightDragon]

Probably this.

If not, I'd have preferred it if "Karai" had been named Pimiko, or just been Miwa, or any other random Japanese name. Making her Karai in name only bars them from utilizing a more Mirage-esque Karai, which is a shame considering the crew is comprised of plenty of Mirage fans and that's the best version of the character.

Then again it might be for the best. It might be tough for a kids show to adapt City at War without butchering it.

That's also something I would've preferred in retrospect. Have Pimiko/Miwa and Karai as separate characters and keep the 'Pimiko/Miwa being Splinter's daughter but raised by Shredder' angle whereas Karai could be more like her Mirage incarnation by having her around Shredder's age, not be related to Shredder in any way, head of the Japanese branch of the Foot clan when Saki moves to New York upon learning Yoshi is alive, and for her to plan on overthrowing Saki because she's fed up with his dishonorable leadership and wasting of resources for his petty revenge. Perhaps you could work it in a way that's similar to City of War, like say whenever they actually defeat Shredder for good, city goes to hell, and Karai sees this as her opportunity to obtain dominance, they team up, they succeed, Karai claims the Foot won't go after them, but still underlie she might go back on her word one day if it suits her.

But nah, let's just name her Karai anyway since we have a evil lady ninja Leo has the hots for and that kinda-sorta happened in 2k3 amirte. Who would want a competent, non-mutant female villain who, underneath her supposed good ethics and honorable demeanor, isn't above being a manipulative, scheming opportunist to achieve her goals? Who WOULD want that? ;P

[ToTheNines]

Yeah, truly a bummer.

[Ninjinister]

Uhh... dunno what you're on about, but if they wanna use someone like Mirage Karai there's literally nothing stopping them. All they have to do is call her something different... Lotus Blossom or Muchiko or Tatsumakisenpuukyaku or pretty much anything.

I feel like you're putting too much importance on names. What's in a name? A character by any other name would serve the same purpose.

[ToTheNines]

That's dumb.

[shuriken]

Realizing I'm not the target demographic for this show, the only thing I'd like to see is Donnie's creeping tendencies put an end to.

And maybe they are by this point, I'm more than a few episodes behind, but that's the most irksome thing about the show for me.

This.
Also less Mutants and more human characters. I was saddened by Irma being a Gilbert Gotfried voiced Kraang

[ABrown]

I'd add more ass-shots.

Um, they're all underage man...

[shuriken]

^^ But they are cartoons so it makes it less creepy. Or more creepy. I dunno anymore :ohwell:

[Powder]

Um, they're all underage man...

So's he. Or well, they're not in his country. Either way, he's one of the few around here who can get away with that. :tlol:

[Jephael]

While I'll admit there are a couple aspects that don't entirely sit right with me, I gotta say I like it the way it is. I would like to see them tone down Raphael's moodiness though. I can only take so much of his whiny "I hate everything!" act. I am happy with how they've been treating Michelangelo this current season. He's definitely grown a lot over the last year or so, especially during the farmhouse arc.

[drgon78]

I can't think of anything I would change currently.

[Tarris Vaal]

Extend the length of every episode by 10mins and encourage more links between episodes for developing character interactions, background detail, secondary plot arcs, etc.

Basically give the writers more room to breath and not have to rush (or cram in) the ideas they have in each episode.

[Metalwolf]

Overall: Let's have less new mutants and better characterization of the ones we do have.

For a part of the story: I'd have the Kraang's boast of having created humanity shown to be a lie. The Kraang might have done many things, but once KP bragged about that, I got the feeling that the writing was in the process of jumping the shark. If it takes you millions of years to create one species just to invade a place, and yet you can't simply cook up a genome from scratch in a merest fraction of the time with all of that ultra-advanced technology of yours, then God help you as invaders. :trolleye:

[myconius]

i'd like it very much if they'd do away with Apritello!

it was funny at first but now it's overstayed it's welcome.

[Jephael]

i'd like it very much if they'd do away with Apritello!

it was funny at first but now it's overstayed it's welcome.

They haven't really done much of that in the current season, save for that initial scene in the season premiere where Don and April were hanging out on that alien planet together and looking at those crystals.

[ssjup81]

i'd like it very much if they'd do away with Apritello!

it was funny at first but now it's overstayed it's welcome.You mean the thing that hasn't had a lot of focus outside of season 1 (mostly) and some of 2, unless it was actually plot related? I kinda don't have a problem with it since it's not as "in your face" like in season 1. It popping up every once in a while is cool with me, just as long as it's maybe a scene or something, like the season 4 premiere. Not much there and I don't mind it that way.

[myconius]

yeah, this scene wasn't creepy at all

http://36.media.tumblr.com/89a37fc39e4806ed48c779e86734dba3/tumblr_nwxv2ecUmd1u3ut2ko1_500.jpg

(finds a bucket to puke in)

(then proceeds to puke in said bucket)

[Amaranthus]

yeah, this scene wasn't creepy at all

http://36.media.tumblr.com/89a37fc39e4806ed48c779e86734dba3/tumblr_nwxv2ecUmd1u3ut2ko1_500.jpg

(finds a bucket to puke in)

(then proceeds to puke in said bucket)

Nice ass-shot.
Saved.

[drgon78]

I hope she keeps that outfit for the rest of the series.

[ssjup81]

yeah, this scene wasn't creepy at all

http://36.media.tumblr.com/89a37fc39e4806ed48c779e86734dba3/tumblr_nwxv2ecUmd1u3ut2ko1_500.jpg

(finds a bucket to puke in)

(then proceeds to puke in said bucket)I totally forgot about that. I was thinking about the part where Donnie and April were exploring that jewelry shop. Now that you brought that up, I do remember my feelings initially and I think I did mention it someplace in one of the other threads. It came across as creepy to me, but at least it was only that one time and not an ongoing gag.

[CyberCubed]

yeah, this scene wasn't creepy at all

http://36.media.tumblr.com/89a37fc39e4806ed48c779e86734dba3/tumblr_nwxv2ecUmd1u3ut2ko1_500.jpg

(finds a bucket to puke in)

(then proceeds to puke in said bucket)

April is 16 in this show. Its not like she's that young. In some states you can get married at 16.

[Amaranthus]

April is 16 in this show. Its not like she's that young. In some states you can get married at 16.

In some states it's legal to f*ck animals.
What is your point, Cubed?

[CyberCubed]

Because she's 16. In anime they sexualize 10-12 year old girls and get away with it, so I don't see the problem here.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

... Aaaaaaand this can of worms has been reopened. :trolleye:

[Amaranthus]

Because she's 16. In anime they sexualize 10-12 year old girls and get away with it, so I don't see the problem here.

Japs are batsh*t crazy so that doesn't count.
Please just stop posting forever.

[CyberCubed]

You guys should see what they get away with in anime, stuff should be illegal. I don't how that stuff gets licensed to sell in the U.S. either.

[Amaranthus]

You guys should see what they get away with in anime, stuff should be illegal. I don't how that stuff gets licensed to sell in the U.S. either.

Boku No Pico is my all-time favourite anime.

[CyberCubed]

If you've seen the recent Fate anime you know what I mean. 11 year old girls...disturbing.

[Amaranthus]

If you've seen the recent Fate anime you know what I mean. 11 year old girls...disturbing.

Someone here doesn't know Boku No Pico.

[victory_angel]

If you've seen the recent Fate anime you know what I mean. 11 year old girls...disturbing.

Anime is an industry and it isn't cheep to make. That is one of the reasons why there are so many fan service stories.

Besides I've seen more disturbing hentai

[ToTheNines]

Well at least a year and a half has passed, so she's 18 by now. Not to defend any of you pervs.

[CyberCubed]

Anime is an industry and it isn't cheep to make. That is one of the reasons why there are so many fan service stories.

Besides I've seen more disturbing hentai

Well hentai doesn't matter because that's blatantly adult porn.

I'm talking about fanservice in regular anime. Back in the 80's and 90's it used to be subtle, now shows have girls nude all time, girls fondling each others breasts, deep lesbian kissing, constant boob and panty shots, etc.

And to make matters worse a lot of these girls are young pre-teens or teenagers. The anime crowd seems to like adult women with each extremely large D and E cup breasts, or extremely young petite anime girls who are as flat as a board and are only in their young teens or 11-12 years old.

The anime industry has gone off the deep end in recent years. Everything is now waifu's, fanservice, incest, pre-teen nudity, lesbians, etc.

[Amaranthus]

Just kidding though.
April may be hot but Eska will never cease to be my one true love.
I love that woman so much.

[victory_angel]

Well hentai doesn't matter because that's blatantly adult porn.

I'm talking about fanservice in regular anime. Back in the 80's and 90's it used to be subtle, now shows have girls nude all time, girls fondling each others breasts, deep lesbian kissing, constant boob and panty shots, etc.

And to make matters worse a lot of these girls are young pre-teens or teenagers. The anime crowd seems to like adult women with each extremely large D and E cup breasts, or extremely young petite anime girls who are as flat as a board and are only in their young teens or 11-12 years old.

The anime industry has gone off the deep end in recent years. Everything is now waifu's, fanservice, incest, pre-teen nudity, lesbians, etc.

Most Anime is Niesh Entertainment. (Appeals to a smaller spectrum of individuals)

The only anime truly made for a broad entertainment is for Children or Short family oriented shows.

There there aren't many anime that are aimed at a broad adult audience and the the few that are only a small percent make actual success.

The reason we have so many manga adaptations that don't have any real ending (or in the case of an ending, no real satisfying conclusion.) Or so many cheap fan-service anime that is aimed as the smallest niesh of otaku viewers. It's because those are the only shows that are likely to make a profit. And even then most of them don't.

In other words good anime is not going to be made if no one cares.

[myconius]

you see? ......you SEE??????

this is EXACTLY why they need to COMPLETELY banish Apritello, TOOT SWEET!!!!!!! :lol:

[Technogeek29]

Working, long day, tired, pop in see what's going on? Someone mention Boku no Pico... Just what is going on here guys? Have we really gone to pedophilia the anime in our discussions?

[ssjup81]

I've never even heard of it.

[Technogeek29]

I've never even heard of it.

That's not a bad thing.

[victory_angel]

That's not a bad thing.

totally agree. Considering thats a shonin ai title that has little boys dressed up as little girls.
http://pm1.narvii.com/5802/dcfcb788df341b5d55960cdb16014fa7721ba954_hq.jpg

[SKX31]

Most Anime is Niesh Entertainment. (Appeals to a smaller spectrum of individuals)

The only anime truly made for a broad entertainment is for Children or Short family oriented shows.

There there aren't many anime that are aimed at a broad adult audience and the the few that are only a small percent make actual success.

The reason we have so many manga adaptations that don't have any real ending (or in the case of an ending, no real satisfying conclusion.) Or so many cheap fan-service anime that is aimed as the smallest niesh of otaku viewers. It's because those are the only shows that are likely to make a profit. And even then most of them don't.

In other words good anime is not going to be made if no one cares.

Well, there's some potential light at the end of the tunnel. I'm looking at Chivalry of a Failed Knight, which Digibro recently brought up while reviewing the so-bad-it's-horrible (as in 12 vids spent reviewing horrible) Asterisk War.

Both shows are pretty (read very similar) but the gist of it is that while AW gets everything - detail, stories etc. wrong and bogged down in the dead horses dominating anime today, CoaFK takes risks. And not just small risks either:

There's no Harem (honestly, its Dead Horse status is what makes Harems pretty trite in todays anime industry), and related to this:
2. The main protagonist and love interest build up the relationship from the first episode, fall in love by the 4th episode and continue to struggle / develop as a couple throughout the rest of the (so far) 12 episode series. The little sister character admits defeat early too and starts to develop in her own way.
3. One of the major characters is a transsexual woman. Is she important because of her transsexuality? NO. Her personality is what makes an impact.
4. The fight scenes actually mean a goddamn thing, always. And while the main protagonist is a in-reality-almost-OP-badass, the villains / antagonists he face are pretty much on his level. And there's no real sign of (too much) Power Creep yet.
5. And finally, the story's pretty well woven into something cohesive and interesting.


Is it perfect? No. The romance's kinda wonky at first glance (and the show's view on sexuality can come off as weird at points - especially given that there's a decent amount of fanservice (and a little manservice)), the animation's shoddy and lowbudget, and it isn't completely groundbreaking as an anime. Still, I've become a fan of the show (because it realizes it needs to take some risks), and I sincerely hope it helps improve the anime industry and lead somewhere.

I'm saying this because I'd loathe a) stuff like Harems in the Nick-verse, or b) a TMNT anime that's bogged down in the dead horses. I'm saying this because when large parts of the anime industry today is bogged down in Harems etc. it not only hurts the trope itself but also it makes it hard to really seperate the animes from an outsider standpoint.

With that in mind, I'm in the "please take more risks, Nick." camp.

[victory_angel]

I also hate anime that is non sensical. I.e. Doesn't explain what's going on and instead has a bunch of random gags to fill the story. Bobobo is one such anime. However the two part ninja turtles anime isn't really that good either. The voices are okay, for the most part. Both episodes sort of expect you to know what's going on because they start by recaping an event where the turtles had found these stones that turn them into super turtles.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lwJe5aB9MpQ/hqdefault.jpg

[Groverman62]

Irma and Kraang Subprime would separate characters

[neatoman]

Irma and Kraang Subprime would separate characters

Well technically there is an Irma separate from Subprime, she's just not human either.

[aliena]

Extend the length of every episode by 10mins and encourage more links between episodes for developing character interactions, background detail, secondary plot arcs, etc.

Basically give the writers more room to breath and not have to rush (or cram in) the ideas they have in each episode.

Once again, agree totally with this. Stop cramming everything into one episode. It's such a bummer, the Dark Raph idea should have had at least two or even three episodes with the guys being without him and how they cope.

Same thing with the Vision Quest story line, way too short. There was so much potential on so many episodes, but they were rushed and in the end they were not satisfying. Such a shame.

[Amaranthus]

Not enough people saying ass-shots.
Plebs.

[turtle1237]

The main thing I would change is well, finish some forgotting storylines.

Dont bounce from one plot to the next. And we need a ninja turtle rip off like street sharks for the next tv show lol.

Make fun of themselves would be nice in that regard.

[TurtleGuy]

Krang being a Kraang all along suddenly makes my "Kraang all along rant" even funnier.

[Refractive Reflections]

This is coming from someone who abandoned the series back in the season 2 finale, but if I could change one aspect, it would be the show's plot amnesia. It would lead to better characterization and stronger continuity between the events of the show, so at least the story's narrative could create a cumulative dramatic impact of significant events and character growth.

After reading some of the threads here (after reading about the OT crossover), it seems like that problem is as pervasive as ever, and probably even worse with all of the time traveling and dimension hopping.

Of course there are many other criticisms I have of the show, but my frustration and annoyance of the show has transitioned to indifference. (I regained some curiosity of the Nick show only because of the OT crossover...)

[ssjup81]

I just realized I never did answer this. Anyway, I'd be happy if they wrapped up abandoned (presumably) storylines, but the show isn't done yet, so I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.

[CyberCubed]

This is coming from someone who abandoned the series back in the season 2 finale, but if I could change one aspect, it would be the show's plot amnesia.

There is no plot amnesia. Older characters and plots are called back to when they want to.

[Luckyday]

This is coming from someone who abandoned the series back in the season 2 finale, but if I could change one aspect, it would be the show's plot amnesia. It would lead to better characterization and stronger continuity between the events of the show, so at least the story's narrative could create a cumulative dramatic impact of significant events and character growth.

After reading some of the threads here (after reading about the OT crossover), it seems like that problem is as pervasive as ever, and probably even worse with all of the time traveling and dimension hopping.

Of course there are many other criticisms I have of the show, but my frustration and annoyance of the show has transitioned to indifference. (I regained some curiosity of the Nick show only because of the OT crossover...)


That's pretty much how I feel about the show currently. I can still enjoy it but only when when I'm not trying to pay attention to what's going on in the overall entire series like how certain characters are developing and growing. That doesn't make this show bad, it just has a different set of priorities. TMNT is more concern with having fun and in this season, a sense of adventure.

I haven't watch this new season other then the Mona Lisa episode, which I found annoying and trite, and the recent episode, which I really loved and reminded me what makes this show so fun as a casual viewer, but anyway when I'm no longer looking at this show as a whole by paying attention to some continuing elements concerning certain characters, and instead look at what they're trying to do now, I can appreciate that they trying to do new things and basically craving into things that fans would really want to see.

If they want to focus on giving us a bucket list of things to see then I'm fine with that. It just means that I will just pick and choose episodes that only sounds really interesting to me rather then sticking by episode after episode and expecting or trying desperately to find some sense of continuity when that is clearly not the focus or goal of the head writer.

[JH24]

It started out as only a minor thing, but it became more annoying for me as the series progressed, and that's the writing for Casey. It wouldn't hurt if the show's writers took a good look at Casey and made his character/personality more consistent. Because as it is now, his character is all over the place.

In one episode he's obnoxious, irritating, keeps shouting "Casey Jones this...Casey Jones that." He acts way too full of himself, and while it's a trait of his character it gets way overplayed at times.

In another episode he has the habit of spouting the weirdest things in the worst circumstances. Like his "Awesome" quote just after the Earth got blown up. Him being excited to be transformed in a robot is another example, even Donatello didn't know how to react to that, and usually he's the first one to point out Casey's stupidity.

Then we have episodes were he's simply used to trigger traps, doing dumb things to make others look better, poking at stuff, charging in and getting beaten. Like in Riddle of the Aeons, where he triggered that trap that cut off Honeycut's robotic arm. Scenes like that irritate me to no end because there's no real reason for it and only lead to Casey once again being scolded by the turtles. Leo seemed absolutely furious.

(Come to think of it, the 2003 series had this habit as well, at least in the earlier seasons. But they did make his character more competent and likeable from season 4 and on, as well as making him a real part of the family. Leo in particular seemed to grow closer to him, as well as being more protective)


And then we have episodes where Casey is actually likeable and useful. Like "Revenge of the Triceratons". Each quote from him was on point or funny. (Like Mozar being demoted because of them) And that's how I like him best. He works best in a supporting role, yet still making a meaningful impact on the story.


I would love to see a more consistent Casey, giving him a more respectful role in the series, but without removing the traits that makes him the Casey we all know. I would love to see more about Casey's motivations, about what drives him and seeing him interact/hang out with the turtles more (Like the couch scene in "Revenge of the Triceratons")

I would also like to see him interact more with Donatello. They have an unique relationship in this series. They argue a lot, yet they both seem to share a deep bond and make the perfect team when working together, always having each other's back. Yet the writers seem to go out of their way lately to avoid putting them together in any scene.

Short version: I want to see his character grow and mature in a way, without taking away what fundamentally makes him Casey.

[Splinter the boss]

Speaking of Casey, I wonder where his Dad and little sister are. They were supposedly missing in the invasion. When they went back to New York, you'd think he would mention them, no, nothing is said about that. It's just weird. Hopefully we see them in humans vs. mutants arc, Casey trying to protect his family or something.

[DarkLightDragon]

Speaking of Casey, I wonder where his Dad and little sister are. They were supposedly missing in the invasion. When they went back to New York, you'd think he would mention them, no, nothing is said about that. It's just weird. Hopefully we see them in humans vs. mutants arc, Casey trying to protect his family or something.

They're in the same bus as April's aunt that's labelled "Heard of but Never Seen."

[Splinter the boss]

They're in the same bus as April's aunt that's labelled "Heard of but Never Seen."

Exactly this. The show runners should try and fix that.

[JH24]

Speaking of Casey, I wonder where his Dad and little sister are. They were supposedly missing in the invasion. When they went back to New York, you'd think he would mention them, no, nothing is said about that. It's just weird. Hopefully we see them in humans vs. mutants arc, Casey trying to protect his family or something.

Yeah, very good point. I don't understand why they're doing this, but they have a bit of a habit pushing these things into the background. I would love to see more of Casey's family and his interactions with them.

They're in the same bus as April's aunt that's labelled "Heard of but Never Seen."

You're entirely right. It's sad, yet so true.

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I'm kinda hoping that in the second half of this season the series slows down a little and reflects a bit on the main characters without the need for another alien, mutant or threat to pop up. It could potentially be a nice addition to this season. Just a bit of breathing room for the characters to reflect on themselves, their friends/family and their motivations/development. But that's probably not going to happen.

[CyberCubed]

There's only going to be 12 episodes back in NYC, I imagine a large chunk of that would be about Shredder.

From the sounds of things Season 5 will open with the Turtles traveling around Asia and Europe.

[ssjup81]

Exactly this. The show runners should try and fix that.I don't care much regarding April's aunt, but it does bother me that they still haven't done anything dealing with Casey's family.

[BabyTurtles]

It would be nice if this show built up some recurring characters..that aren't ninjas/mutants/aliens....

I mean just building some characters to interact with in New York to make it feel more full.....like maybe more human allies.....or people April and Casey know...(like their family for one)

kinda like Irma (for a while).....or tea girl(was her name Chloe? I forget) even the Purple Dragons.... just to show theres some life in this city...(and not just those same models walking around life less)