Is anyone else disappointed the crossover isn't a 2-parter?

[CyberCubed]

When the crossover was originally confirmed around a year ago I assumed it would at least be an hour (or rather 44 minutes because of commercials), to give it proper screentime.

Instead its only 1 measly 22 minute episode. So in that time they have to give proper screentime to all 4 Turtles, the original Krang, in addition to competing with screentime from the Nick Turtles and Kraang Subprime who are all in the episode, maybe April/Casey/Fugitoid as well since they're still in space.

The episode will barely have any breathing room. They have to do the first meetings of the Turtles, the general plot, Krang working with Kraang subprime, and the resolutions all in 22 minutes. They actually brought back 4 old voices for the Turtles and Krang to only say a handful of lines (because with 10+ characters in an episode plus action scenes, each character is only going to get a few lines of course) which makes it feel like a waste.

Why couldn't they at least give it 2 episodes? This show does multi-part eps all the time so it doesn't make sense. Did we really need another "filler in space" over a two part crossover event? I'd gladly give up one of the space fillers to make this crossover a 2 parter. Just seems like a waste of CG models too that they're barely going to use.

[Amaranthus]

I want to end my life.

[Vicky82]

I want to end my life.

Your not the only one.

[neatoman]

Dude, I don't even know if I'm going to survive watching one episode with those demon eyes in it, I have a feeling it will have the same effect as opening the Ark of the Covenant when watching it. I don't want to what two episodes will do to me.

[Autbot_Benz]

When the crossover was originally confirmed around a year ago I assumed it would at least be an hour (or rather 44 minutes because of commercials), to give it proper screentime.

Instead its only 1 measly 22 minute episode. So in that time they have to give proper screentime to all 4 Turtles, the original Krang, in addition to competing with screentime from the Nick Turtles and Kraang Subprime who are all in the episode, maybe April/Casey/Fugitoid as well since they're still in space.

The episode will barely have any breathing room. They have to do the first meetings of the Turtles, the general plot, Krang working with Kraang subprime, and the resolutions all in 22 minutes. They actually brought back 4 old voices for the Turtles and Krang to only say a handful of lines (because with 10+ characters in an episode plus action scenes, each character is only going to get a few lines of course) which makes it feel like a waste.

Why couldn't they at least give it 2 episodes? This show does multi-part eps all the time so it doesn't make sense. Did we really need another "filler in space" over a two part crossover event? I'd gladly give up one of the space fillers to make this crossover a 2 parter. Just seems like a waste of CG models too that they're barely going to use.

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[drgon78]

I am just happy that it is a episode not a one shot joke like last time.

[plastroncafe]

Dude, I don't even know if I'm going to survive watching one episode with those demon eyes in it, I have a feeling it will have the same effect as opening the Ark of the Covenant when watching it. I don't want to what two episodes will do to me.

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[Shark_Blade]

Too much of a good thing isn't good for you. I'm glad we have this at all. :tlove:

[Zak The Neutrino]

Yes but don't we already have a thread for talking about the cross over.

This thread should be locked.

[victory_angel]

Cubed...(Pinches bridge of nose) This episode hasn't aired yet and aside from the animatic aired at Comic Con and the recent clip we have no idea how the episode is going to go.

You would be surprised how much stuff can be stuffed into 30 seconds. Heck the old Garfield and Friends used to have 30 second shorts called Quickies. And they are very concise and to the point of what they have to offer.

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And before you say that the animation is different and that's how it is able to maintain the 30 second time frame. I've done an animation class before and I have used 3D animation programs such as Maya in said class which is not an easy program to use. But much like any form of animation be it hand drawn, 3D, or Flash you have to time a characters movements so they remain fluid.

For example a character reaching for a can on a shelf done over the span of 30 seconds would feel too slow. Where as a character reaching for can on the shelf, taking it down, opening it, and pour the contents into a bowl, and taking it to a table to eat it can be done in a 30 second time frame. Such as this Calvin and Hobbies Cartoon short that someone put together.

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So 22 minute may not seem like an ideal time frame for a cross over, but it could turn out to be just enough time to establish something that could open a window to future encounters with the OT cast.

As Craig McCracken says: I really want people to enjoy a show for what it IS and not get mad at it for what it ISN’T.

[*NormalGamer*]

As Craig McCracken says: I really want people to enjoy a show for what it IS and not get mad at it for what it ISN’T.

This is pretty much how I enjoy watching 'any' tv show or movie.

[Etsyturtle2]

Yes but don't we already have a thread for talking about the cross over.

This thread should be locked.
2 threads actually

[JTH]

I find it funny that Cubed keeps going on this rant on "why the crew would do this"...yet never brings up the obvious statement that last I checked, Nickelodeon has final say in everything that airs on their network, and hasn't thrown one bit of blame at Nick's direction.

You know Nick, that company that hasn't done anything to promote any form of TMNT iteration on their own network, much less any iteration that never did. The company that still hasn't promoted the episode in the slightest while every other news/entertainment site has. The company that Cubed and others have whined about for 3+ years when their Blu-Ray releases of the show are coming out?

But it's the crew's fault for wasting your time with only one episode, and Nick is completely Scot Free, off the hook, innocent.

I can't even fathom that logic...even by Cubed's standard of logic. :roll:

[Turtle-X]

maybe just appreciate what they're giving us. sure, you could nitpick the images and teasers to death but then would you get any enjoyment out of the final episode.

or 'just repeat to yourself its just a show. i should really just relax.'

[ToTheNines]

I'm more disappointed that you made this thread. And that you post here.

[Powder]

Yes, but not to such an obsessive extent.

[Bry]

No.

It's nice having events like these, but I don't want too many of them. Let Nick be Nick without having constant callbacks/comparisons to Fred Wolf. I'm tired enough of the '87 show's shadow hanging over every aspect of this property as is. And Turtles Forever gave us a feature-length crossover just over 6 years ago, so it's not like I'm clamouring to see the same thing all over again already.

One episode is pretty ideal, IMO.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Cubed complaining about something that's not nostrils, fat women, or lesbians?

Ye gods.

[CyberCubed]

My expectations have been cut in half.

[TurtleTitan97]

I'm sure the Nick crew is deeply hurt by that statement. :roll:

[CyberCubed]

Its just rather perplexing. Am I really the only person here flabbergasted why this wasn't made into a big event?

[Etsyturtle2]

Its just rather perplexing. Am I really the only person here flabbergasted why this wasn't made into a big event?

I kind of agree.

[ToTheNines]

Cubed complaining about something that's not nostrils, fat women, or lesbians?

Ye gods.

Yes, he's truly growing as a person.

[neatoman]

Its just rather perplexing. Am I really the only person here flabbergasted why this wasn't made into a big event?

Why would they? Granted, it might be a little strange it's just another filler episode but maybe that's the joke? Maybe the joke is that this type of event is typically just pointless fan service that adds nothing of substance?

[NoName999]

Its just rather perplexing. Am I really the only person here flabbergasted why this wasn't made into a big event?

Because the show is "aimed at kids." You know, the target demographic that wasn't around for the 80s cartoon.

[ssjup81]

This thread needs to be locked! :P

Anyway, like others have said, just be happy we're getting a crossover and that all the original voice actors are reprising their roles.

[Speedy Cerviche]

I'm pretty disappointed too man but what can ya do?

[Cure]

I don't mind, no. I'm happy it's happening at all.

[VaughnMichael]

I am but what can you do...

[TurFlytle]

CyberCubed, master of repetitive and annoying complaints. If you were the executive producer, every episode would be a Mirage adaption with Fred Wolf characters.

[neatoman]

CyberCubed, master of repetitive and annoying complaints. If you were the executive producer, every episode would be a Mirage adaption with Fred Wolf characters.

... Isn't that sort of what the show is?

[sdp]

I was shocked and a bit bummed but don't confuse time with quality. Forever Red is a single episode crossover to celebrate 10 years of power rangers and it was great, to the point. The legendary battle to celebrate 20 years was a two parter and absolutely terrible.

[plastroncafe]

... Isn't that sort of what the show is?

That's pretty much what every incarnation has been.

[neatoman]

That's pretty much what every incarnation has been.

Well, since the buyout at least...

[DarkFell]

I'm not really disappointed all that much to be honest as it will be a matter of time before we'll get to see another OT / 2K12 crossover, seeing as this is what, the second time that the OT Turtles have come onto the show?

I can appreciate one episode. If it receives a lot of viewers that like the crossover episode, then more are bound to follow.

[IndigoErth]

That's a shame if it's only one episode. Though I wouldn't be surprised of they returned in another down the road; would seem a bit of a waste to create models for them if they'd only be a one-time thing.

[CyberCubed]

I feel like the crossover should have happened after the space arc was over and the Turtles were back in New York. That way they would have had more freedom to make a big thing out of it. Instead its just another one of the "space arc" episodes and it feels rushed.

[ssjup81]

If this crossover goes ok, maybe they'll do another Turtles Forever thing and bring in the Mirage, IDW, 2k3, etc., Turtles. Hm, maybe not IDW because of the Donatello situation and it is still going...

[Ninturtle]

If this crossover goes ok, maybe they'll do another Turtles Forever thing and bring in the Mirage, IDW, 2k3, etc., Turtles. Hm, maybe not IDW because of the Donatello situation and it is still going...

I'm pretty sure the situation in IDW is resolved.

[Desslok]

If the story only requires a regular length episode then I'm cool with that. I'd rather have a solid normal episode than have them bloat things and unnecessarily dilute the story they're trying to tell just for the sake of making it longer.

The most important thing is that it's going to be a TON of fun to hear the original voice cast together again. :D

[ssjup81]

I'm pretty sure the situation in IDW is resolved.I meant that the comic is still going.

[Powder]

& he meant that Donatello is fine. The "situation" is a thing of the past, so there's no reason it would prevent them from being included in a crossover, were parties interested in doing so.

[sdp]

I'v seen this mentioned a few times but would you guys really want another one episode crossover in the future?

I mean if we got other crossovers it would kind of take away from this one at the same time it would be awesome. So while I'd rather it not happen if it did I'd be more than fine with it.

[SKX31]

I'v seen this mentioned a few times but would you guys really want another one episode crossover in the future?

I mean if we got other crossovers it would kind of take away from this one at the same time it would be awesome. So while I'd rather it not happen if it did I'd be more than fine with it.

Then again, this crossover was, from the get-go, destined to be compared / contrasted to what Forever did - simply because Forever was a) 2K3's and Mirage's as a whole grand finale, b) the first crossover between animated series (mainly) and c) because of differences in timing really. What I mean here is that the Nick crossover's been kinda hinted at since Season 2 and with Nick in a overall wonky, but stable place, while Forever was not only the Grand Finale but also came at a time when 4Kids as a studio was going pretty much downhill themselves (4Kids wound up bankrupt in 2011, and is now a shell of itself in the form of 4Licensing. Ever heard of em? No.). So if there's Executive Meddling (which I'm pretty sure has happened with both crossovers) its for different reasons probably.

So really, I don't think the "take away" effect is that large.

[cryan]

If the story only requires a regular length episode then I'm cool with that. I'd rather have a solid normal episode than have them bloat things and unnecessarily dilute the story they're trying to tell just for the sake of making it longer.

The most important thing is that it's going to be a TON of fun to hear the original voice cast together again. :D

I think that was another problem with Turtles Forever as well. They didn't get the original voice actors on board. Here at least they got them. now I am not sure about Krang though. Also someone brought up the 2 Raphael's. The OT Raph was the wise ass(please don't ban me for that) while the Nick version of course is the tough guy. Two different takes on the character.

[Jephael]

Do I have to post the "Crybaby Cartman" video again, Cubed?!! Because I'll do it... swear to God, I'll do it!!!

[ranger_scout]

I actually was hoping that this would be a two-part episode. I'm surprised that won't be happening.

[myconius]

When the crossover was originally confirmed around a year ago I assumed it would at least be an hour (or rather 44 minutes because of commercials), to give it proper screentime.

Instead its only 1 measly 22 minute episode. So in that time they have to give proper screentime to all 4 Turtles, the original Krang, in addition to competing with screentime from the Nick Turtles and Kraang Subprime who are all in the episode, maybe April/Casey/Fugitoid as well since they're still in space.

The episode will barely have any breathing room. They have to do the first meetings of the Turtles, the general plot, Krang working with Kraang subprime, and the resolutions all in 22 minutes. They actually brought back 4 old voices for the Turtles and Krang to only say a handful of lines (because with 10+ characters in an episode plus action scenes, each character is only going to get a few lines of course) which makes it feel like a waste.

Why couldn't they at least give it 2 episodes? This show does multi-part eps all the time so it doesn't make sense. Did we really need another "filler in space" over a two part crossover event? I'd gladly give up one of the space fillers to make this crossover a 2 parter. Just seems like a waste of CG models too that they're barely going to use.

yeah, i think some of the filler episodes this season could have been ditched to expand on this cross-over of generations.

who knows? maybe they'll meet up again in the future?
we did see the '87 Turtles in Wormquake!

[ssjup81]

yeah, i think some of the filler episodes this season could have been ditched to expand on this cross-over of generations.

who knows? maybe they'll meet up again in the future?
we did see the '87 Turtles in Wormquake!Have there actually been any filler episodes this season outside of the Wyrm ep?

[Aaronardo]

Have there actually been any filler episodes this season outside of the Wyrm ep?

Not technically, I don't think, but this entire arc just feels like a filler arc to me. It's got about as much inconsistencies as your average filler in this show.

[CyberCubed]

Not technically, I don't think, but this entire arc just feels like a filler arc to me. It's got about as much inconsistencies as your average filler in this show.

I don't even think you people know what filler means anymore. The Turtles are on an adventure, deal with it.

[Etsyturtle2]

& he meant that Donatello is fine. The "situation" is a thing of the past, so there's no reason it would prevent them from being included in a crossover, were parties interested in doing so.

Filler

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1. a thing put in a space or container to fill it.

[victory_angel]

Not technically, I don't think, but this entire arc just feels like a filler arc to me. It's got about as much inconsistencies as your average filler in this show.

A filler episode is a story that is just there to fill time and doesn't have ties to the actual plot. For example the Wacky World of Wyrm episode counts as filler because Casey's wish was to go back to the point before they discovered Wyrm so that they never found or released him. So in other words it never happened.

Where as the Episode where they go into Mikey's mind can classify as filler bur isn't really filler because the Turtles wanting the schematic for the Triceraton's Mother Ship and Dregg learning about the Black Hole Generator does tie into the over all plot.

[myconius]

I don't even think you people know what filler means anymore. The Turtles are on an adventure, deal with it.

wasn't filler that awesome music video where Michael Jackson turned into a Werewolf and started dancing with the Zombies???

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[nellyp]

You are thinking of Thriller but that video did have plenty of filler to make for a very long video so I guess so :P

[Mona_Lisa]

My expectations have been cut in half.

Well, I understand CyberCubed's feelings, but I am still happy to be getting one episode out of the deal! :D I will take what I can get!