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Bauer536
03-18-2016, 09:35 PM
I was thinking that maybe there should be a sequel to "Who Framed Roger Rabbit," but then I realized some problems:

1. Bob Hoskins is gone.:tsad:

2. The other actors are either ancient or going.

3. It will not please long-time fans (Think about what happened with Force Awakens and Indy 4).

4. CGI will be used, and it could detract us from viewing the film.

5. It seems that the sequel goers want it to take place in the earlier years instead of contemporary time.:tgrumble:


Whether or not a sequel should be made, let's face it: Roger needs a comeback. Some may think he's kind of a nuisance, but he's also a toon with the spirit of the cartoon character archetype, and he has both a sense of humor and a good heart. Even he had the extremely beautiful and talented songstress Jessica Rabbit for a wife. But he was the amalgamation of every classic cartoon type in the book.:tsmile: He was comic relief at his best. And there is nothing wrong with comic relief characters. However, throughout the years, those certain characters got shafted by the ones who only abuse comedy and ruin the whole idea of making an endearing and funny character.

Thanks to characters such as the racist stereotype that is Jar Jar Binks and the highly annoying and regressing SpongeBob Squarepants, comic relief characters are getting a bad name. Olaf can't just live in piece because of these horrible creations. Even I've seen some people compare this innocent snowman to Jar Jar. :tmad:Bad comparison.:tmad: So, he's annoying, but he's not obnoxious and ridiculous as Jar Jar. And I'm sorry. SpongeBob may live with the fame, but Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny will always be the memorable ones. They've made history. SpongeBob will probably fade into obscurity unless he gets rebooted.

But let's be serious. The SpongeBob age is coming to an end. It doesn't matter. We have done so much with Mickey and Bugs, they have movies, TV shows, comic books, and more. Why not Roger Rabbit?

What do you think? I say, "No sequel, but add most of the characters in something else." If Zootopia 2 gets made, let's have Roger make a cameo, or have such a small scene, it will make all the fans squeal. How about that "Stooge" project Disney was working on. I'd see a film with Mickey and Roger together. Heck, just put him in a few episodes of the 2k13 Mickey Mouse series on Disney Channel.

Any thoughts?

Powder
03-18-2016, 09:46 PM
One thousand nopes.

Bauer536
03-18-2016, 09:49 PM
One thousand nopes.

Just curious why.

NinjaPug
03-18-2016, 10:02 PM
Can't recreate the original. Unless you have the perfect script, let it be.

Bauer536
03-18-2016, 10:05 PM
Can't recreate the original. Unless you have the perfect script, let it be.

Well, you know, I wasn't thinking a film in the same universe as the first. I was thinking we should get a TV animated series or something of him as both the celebrity and the human (or rabbit) being in his personal life. Also, maybe, like I said, something like that "Stooge" project that Disney was supposedly working on.

Autbot_Benz
03-18-2016, 10:22 PM
http://i66.tinypic.com/fjqfpl.jpg

Lets leave classics alone and stop rebooting/remaking them because money. "looks directly at you Sony"

Bauer536
03-18-2016, 10:26 PM
http://i66.tinypic.com/fjqfpl.jpg

Lets leave classics alone and stop rebooting/remaking them because money. "looks directly at you Sony"

Yes. I agree. That's why no sequel. I'm talking about an alternative. Did you read some of the ideas that I listed of possibilities of him coming back?

Autbot_Benz
03-18-2016, 10:54 PM
Yes. I agree. That's why no sequel. I'm talking about an alternative. Did you read some of the ideas that I listed of possibilities of him coming back?

ya no thanks lets just leave it as who framed Roger Rabbit and nothing else

Bauer536
03-18-2016, 10:56 PM
ya no thanks lets just leave it as who framed Roger Rabbit and nothing else

Okay. That's your opinion. But I'm sure other people care. Otherwise, forget I even posted this.

Commenter 42
03-18-2016, 11:49 PM
What we really need, are less re-makes.

Gen Z needs to get their own lore, stop stealing from us.
Bunch of hooligans. GET OFF MY GRASS!!!!!!!!!!

Bauer536
03-18-2016, 11:57 PM
What we really need, are less re-makes.

Gen Z needs to get their own lore, stop stealing from us.
Bunch of hooligans. GET OFF MY GRASS!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my God! This is not about a sequel! I'm just asking if anyone wants a comeback in at least something where the characters are brought back in a new light, but staying true to the meaning of Roger and his world.

Forget the sequel! There is no sequel! Granted, there is no show or graphic novel for him recently, but I am asking different questions. In fact, I said it before, and I'll say it again: I don't want a sequel either! Let's please drop the sequel thing and focus on what could be in a different medium or whatnot.

Allio
03-18-2016, 11:58 PM
Honestly, I want a more book-like movie

but then again, I would like a Mask Film more closer to the comics.

Powder
03-19-2016, 12:21 AM
The only way I would give half a damn about bringing it back would be if Bob Hoskins were still alive & they made it a sequel where there's a sort of CGI based gentrification happening in Toon Town & they've gotta make people appreciate 2D animation all over again. Get some villains from Pixar & Dreamworks films fighting He-Man & stuff. :tlol: Ah, God, that'd be so over the top. Dunno if audiences are ready for that.

Anyway, Roger Rabbit, in & of himself, isn't worth sh*t. He's a means to an end in that film & is otherwise uninteresting. No point doing anything else with him. A reboot or spin-off or whatever would be wholly without merit.

TigerClaw
03-19-2016, 12:24 AM
I remember reading about a sequel being talked about at Disney many years ago, but it never got off the ground.

and then Disney created these Roger Rabbit animated shorts that came on before there own movies.

Bauer536
03-19-2016, 12:34 AM
The only way I would give half a damn about bringing it back would be if Bob Hoskins were still alive & they made it a sequel where there's a sort of CGI based gentrification happening in Toon Town & they've gotta make people appreciate 2D animation all over again. Get some villains from Pixar & Dreamworks films fighting He-Man & stuff. :tlol: Ah, God, that'd be so over the top. Dunno if audiences are ready for that.

Anyway, Roger Rabbit, in & of himself, isn't worth sh*t. He's a means to an end in that film & is otherwise uninteresting. No point doing anything else with him. A reboot or spin-off or whatever would be wholly without merit.


Funny. I wrote my own script for fun where Toontown has included CGI characters. Even in this one restaurant, I have the Penguins of Madagascar as waiters, the Ninja Turtles as guests, Mike and Sully talking to Shrek and Fiona, and the Toy Story Aliens working with the Minions. They're a few little cameos to what was actually a story about this cult trying to kill off CG-animated characters with dip.

You know, if a character is uninteresting, here's a solution: make him or her interesting. I think if you have the right people, you could have a project with Roger as a main character. Why don't we give him a new trait? Does he only act as himself, or can he portray characters differently in the movies? Where does his relationship with Jessica go before they get married? Does he have a nemesis, and who would be trying to bring him down? There could be some thought to this. If you don't think that can happen, that's fine. But I can dream, can't I?

oldmanwinters
03-19-2016, 12:48 AM
I liked the Roger Rabbit comic books that Disney put out in the early 90s. I guess there were about 25 issues total. It actually had an official film sequel (The Return of Doom) and the first issue of the ongoing comic wrote Eddie Valiant out of the series and replaced him with a similar character for some odd reason I can only assume to be related to licensing Bob Hoskins' likeness.

Powder
03-19-2016, 01:23 AM
You know, if a character is uninteresting, here's a solution: make him or her interesting.

A better solution; don't sh*t on a legacy or turn an old character into something they were never meant to be. Simply create new stuff.

Cryomancer
03-19-2016, 02:04 AM
I'd rather see Cool World remade with the original pitch concept.

drgon78
03-19-2016, 06:32 AM
It would be nice if Roger Rabbit made a comeback on the television scene, but it would be really nice if Tiny Toons or Animaniacs made a comeback in TV, movies, etc.

Candy Kappa
03-19-2016, 08:05 AM
Unless they make a more faithful adaptation of the original book, I'm not interested. Cause that would have been a interesting WTF movie.

plastroncafe
03-19-2016, 08:42 AM
I'm just trying to imagine someone making Roger Rabbit now.
Do we think there's any possible way to get all those different IP holders to share their creations again? Could someone make a movie these days with Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny sharing a screen?

The Deadman
03-19-2016, 08:49 AM
But let's be serious. The SpongeBob age is coming to an end. It doesn't matter. We have done so much with Mickey and Bugs, they have movies, TV shows, comic books, and more. Why not Roger Rabbit?

What do you think? I say, "No sequel, but add most of the characters in something else." If Zootopia 2 gets made, let's have Roger make a cameo, or have such a small scene, it will make all the fans squeal. How about that "Stooge" project Disney was working on. I'd see a film with Mickey and Roger together. Heck, just put him in a few episodes of the 2k13 Mickey Mouse series on Disney Channel.

Any thoughts?

So from the looks of it, you want something Roger Rabbit related to come out for the sake of Roger Rabbit being relevant again. I don't know why you keep bringing SpongeBob up when Roger Rabbit catered to a mature audience, that movie wasn't made for kids in mind. You just can't throw a character into a show or movie aimed at children and assume that it'll work. Zootopia 2? Sure, let's take away from the characters in THAT film that are already being established.

"We've done so much with Mickey and Bugs, they have everything"

That probably has to do with the fact that both of those characters are the face of the companies that had a hand in their creation, when you think of Warner Brothers and their cartoons you think of Bugs Bunny, when you think of Disney, you think of Mickey Mouse.

Roger Rabbit doesn't have the kind of drawing power that the ones you mentioned have, and that's why he's not in current media.

Cryomancer
03-19-2016, 08:57 AM
Actually if someone somehow magically had the ability to make a ridiculous company crossover movie I'd much rather have an adaptation of Tails Gets Trolled.

Aaronardo
03-19-2016, 09:11 AM
Are we all forgetting about The Stooge?

http://blog.garywolf.com/2013/02/mickey-mouse-and-roger-rabbit-to-star.html
http://www.bleedingcool.com/forums/front-page-comic-news/67266-roger-rabbit-mickey-mouse-star-stooge-updated-maybe-not.html
http://toontownantics.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-fake-news-werent-that-fake-after-all.html
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/61064

Here’s the true scoop, straight from the rabbit’s mouth. The Stooge is a real development proposal for a Disney/Pixar movie. It has the same title as the Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis film and some of the same plot elements, but it’s not a remake. The storyline in this Stooge is quite different.

This movie, which will be all animated, has nothing to do with the sequel to Who Framed Roger Rabbit. They are totally different concepts and projects. It’s not a case of making one instead of the other. In an ideal, rabbit-centric world, Disney will make both.

The Stooge development producer Erik von Wodtke came up with the story and wrote the treatment. He showed it to me hoping that I would see how special it was and would be interested in coming in on the project. With that, he did succeed. I love the idea of a Mickey Mouse and Roger Rabbit musical buddy comedy. This is a co-star pairing made in cartoon heaven. Two iconic cartoon characters playing off one another in a story that has the heart and emotional soul of films like Wall-E and Toy Story.

Art director Doug A Sirois has been working on Stooge concept art. What I’ve seen so far is sensational. I will be involved in the project in a writing and creative capacity. Erik is currently talking to a number of top-flight screenwriters and directors. Watch my blog. I’ll keep fans posted on Stooge developments. From now on under my own name, not Walter’s.

- Gary K. Wolf, writer of Who Censored Roger Rabbit

So long as it isn't CGI animated (which is unlikely since this is apparently tied to Pixar), I can't help but hope that this gets greenlit. It'd be nice to see both Roger and Mickey reappear on the big screen, and Wolf seems pretty confident in it.

ABrown
03-19-2016, 09:55 AM
I've watched Who Framed Roger Rabbit a couple of times recently with it airing on The Hub. It still holds up pretty well more than 25 years later. Bob Hoskins was great in it. What's really nice about the movie is that it's another show/movie that my twin three year old boys enjoy, and it's something that the whole family can enjoy. It's too bad that it's not currently available on dvd for a decent price.

For the record, Jessica Rabbit is sexy as shell.

Bauer536
03-19-2016, 10:25 AM
I'm just trying to imagine someone making Roger Rabbit now.
Do we think there's any possible way to get all those different IP holders to share their creations again? Could someone make a movie these days with Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny sharing a screen?

Roger could share the screen with Disney characters if he is owned by the company. He doesn't have to be featured with the Looney Tunes or other cartoon characters. If someone wanted to develop a universe with these characters, maybe they would not want it always connected to the "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" world. doesn't have to be humans like Eddie Valiant in a future adaptation. Maybe Eddie's children, if they were detectives in the 1980s, then that could make something interesting. Or how about just a cartoon show on Roger's personal life? Think of the possibilities.


So from the looks of it, you want something Roger Rabbit related to come out for the sake of Roger Rabbit being relevant again. I don't know why you keep bringing SpongeBob up when Roger Rabbit catered to a mature audience, that movie wasn't made for kids in mind. You just can't throw a character into a show or movie aimed at children and assume that it'll work. Zootopia 2? Sure, let's take away from the characters in THAT film that are already being established.

Roger is not supposed to cater to kids. I see your point. I'd just hope there would be something to cater to everyone, kids and adults.

I mean a cameo. And maybe they'll have Mickey and Donald make an appearance. I'm not trying to have them take away anything. I just think those would be fun Easter eggs. From what I've heard, "Zootopia" is similar to "Who Framed Roger Rabbit." So, because of all the anthropomorphic animals used in that story, why can't that cartoon bunny be in the background in honor of that classic film? I never said anything about him having a larger role in a Zootopia sequel. Maybe just a scene where he's one of the citizens running from danger.

I've watched Who Framed Roger Rabbit a couple of times recently with it airing on The Hub. It still holds up pretty well more than 25 years later. Bob Hoskins was great in it. What's really nice about the movie is that it's another show/movie that my twin three year old boys enjoy, and it's something that the whole family can enjoy. It's too bad that it's not currently available on dvd for a decent price.

For the record, Jessica Rabbit is sexy as shell.

I agree. I love the film for those reasons, too. But this is not about the film. It is about the character coming in something else.

ProactiveMan
03-21-2016, 03:38 AM
Who Framed Roger Rabbit was like lightning in a bottle, and I think it is best left to stand alone. Just form a purely technological point of view, I’m not sure you could get enough traditional animation talent in one place to do it today, and thematically, CGI doesn’t make sense.

As for spinning it off, Roger Rabbit is really only a generic stand-in for other famous cartoon characters – kind of a parody I guess, so a TV show, or what-have-you would probably be redundant. The idea of mixing a bunch of real cartoon IPs together is still kind of interesting, but I don’t think you need to resurrect Roger Rabbit to do that.

Having said that, you could write a cell animation vs CGI plot in which Roger is unemployable and desperate, so he agrees to star in a crappy sequel to Who Framed Roger Rabbit to make ends meet. It wouldn’t be as good as the original, but maybe it would work – a bit like that Muppet movie they made a few years ago.

ssjup81
03-21-2016, 03:39 AM
I'd pass on this. The fact that they'd use so much CGI would be bothersome.

Amaranthus
03-21-2016, 02:13 PM
Can't we just cherish the way things were?
First thing people would do if a Roger Rabbit movie was announced would be "LEAVE OUR CHILDHOOD ALONE!".
Get the hell out, boi.

snake
03-21-2016, 02:24 PM
The cgi idea could be pretty funny but really there's no need for a sequel. Think like Back To The Future 4.

They'd downplay Jessica Rabbit anyways

DarkLightDragon
03-21-2016, 03:47 PM
The cgi idea could be pretty funny but really there's no need for a sequel. Think like Back To The Future 4.

They'd downplay Jessica Rabbit anyways

Hell, they'd also downplay Baby Herman or at the very least him being a smoker (think of how often Jose Carioca appears in official Disney stuff nowadays minus maybe international comics).