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Vicky82
04-17-2016, 03:09 AM
The episode is up on ITunes, Also can any of the mods sticky this thread please and un sticky the old episode threads.


https://36.media.tumblr.com/9f1508a5815f40dc57932958affbcae3/tumblr_inline_o5ox0qONwM1t3idq6_540.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/65c05f3af52bcf4b6d47e5a0b6223a1f/tumblr_o5qit6B0xB1soibfro1_540.jpg

The team must overcome impossible odds in order to obtain the final Black Hole Generator piece.

Redworld96
04-17-2016, 03:26 AM
Saw it, really good. Chompy is very cute ^^
As I was expecting, Triceratons have now all the pieces and they have built the BHG. But at the end with one of them saying "I have also discovered something you will find .... amusing" .
I am pretty sure that it involves Fugitoid with the BHG

Vicky82
04-17-2016, 03:56 AM
Wow awesome episode, it was so intense.

I can't wait for next week. But I wonder if Nick will put the episode up early as it's the mid season final.

So Dregg is dead, or is he

I've noticed some foreshadowing in that Chris Bradford Cartoon, that monster drinking that stuff to make him bigger obviously foreshadowing Super Shredder

cookie jar
04-17-2016, 04:40 AM
IMO this is the best episode of the space arc. It was good episode.

Fang Wolf
04-17-2016, 07:01 AM
It's was good episode. :)
Oh NO! Mozar the Heart of Darkness in his paws again. :o
Now It's be ending of earth! *I hope not this time...*

ObiWanFan4life
04-17-2016, 10:02 AM
"I'm sick of space". My sentiments exactly, Mikey.

GoldMutant
04-17-2016, 10:07 AM
I made a funny! -Fugitoid (movie reference yay)

saintsaucey
04-17-2016, 10:22 AM
Was anyone surprised that tokka was the island. Cause I thought it was obvious

Vicky82
04-17-2016, 10:24 AM
Was anyone surprised that tokka was the island. Cause I thought it was obvious

No I knew that too.

Powder
04-17-2016, 10:32 AM
That was a darn good one. The wait to find out what happens now is gonna kill me!

veemonjosh
04-17-2016, 10:32 AM
Dregg never returned to another planet. Trapped in a form half-bug, half-ice, he wandered the depths of space eternally. Eventually, craving death but unable to die, Dregg stopped thinking.

The Happy One
04-17-2016, 10:34 AM
Wow...um, that was...something else.

But, yeah, I gotta go with Mikes on this one. I miss New York, too.

But good episode either way:tthumbsu:

Does above think though, that something was fishy about Fugituod this episode??

ToTheNines
04-17-2016, 10:35 AM
Anyone catch the Cudley reference at the beginning?

Yoshimickster
04-17-2016, 10:39 AM
Dregg never returned to another planet. Trapped in a form half-bug, half-ice, he wandered the depths of space eternally. Eventually, craving death but unable to die, Dregg stopped thinking.
HA-the nazi in that story was the basis for Guile.

GREAT episode, and I REALLY hope 2K12 Tokka comes back, LADY GAMERA FOR THE WIN!

Also-WE HAVE OUR TIMELOOP ladies and gentlemen!

GoldMutant
04-17-2016, 10:43 AM
Overall, not too shabby an episode! Certainly among the best this season, though personally that's not saying much. Chompy is adorable though I find a little unnecessary. Otherwise, decent plot, characterization (about time for Raph being a perfect blend!), and sets up the next episode.

Two main issues though, the animation like The Moons of Thalos 3 doesn't feel spectacular. As I mentioned there, the animation didn't feel entirely executed to it's fullest potential, just the generic red and black. Also, compared to The Cosmic Ocean this episode and Moons felt a little lackluster without enough colors.

Besides that, why was Dregg even here? I understand because of the alliance with the Triceratons, but he almost felt unnecessary to everything. When last episode left a lot of questions unanswered and then nothing to specify on it, Dregg feels like a waste. Heck, he's been a waste of a villain since the beginning with a pitiful motive and just not doing too well. His whining in the beginning just sums up my feelings of Dregg in this series: a once promising addition reduced to nothing but a spoiled brat. If he doesn't return, my analogy of him being like a child is right. :ohwell:

Other than pacing, nothing really to complain about. I'll give it a 6.5 out of 10.

Splinter the boss
04-17-2016, 10:52 AM
Nice episode. I had one issue with it, though. Dregg was tossed around and manipulated easily. Can't wait for next episode. And to the person who said that 'something amusing' is related to Fugitoid and bhg, I think that is the moment they realize the Kraang was hiding on earth.

ObiWanFan4life
04-17-2016, 10:55 AM
I liked it, I didn't love it, but I liked it. And I am so glad that this is the last episode in the Space Arc.

So far, this has been my least favorite season, hopefully, we can end this season on a high note.

Yoshimickster
04-17-2016, 10:58 AM
I'm okay with them doing it this way, make the first half a silly adventure season, and the second half a more serious one! ALSO-who wants to bet Karai dethrones Oroku Saki as Shredder?

Vicky82
04-17-2016, 10:59 AM
I liked it, I didn't love it, but I liked it. And I am so glad that this is the last episode in the Space Arc.

So far, this has been my least favorite season, hopefully, we can end this season on a high note.

You do know we still got the 2nd half the season to get through yet, after the hiatus.

ObiWanFan4life
04-17-2016, 11:00 AM
You know we still got the 2nd half the season to get through yet, after the hiatus.

Yes, I know. But I seriously hope that the second half flows better than the first.

pannoni1
04-17-2016, 11:08 AM
For all the potential this episode brought, it didn't quite deliver like it could have. Besides Dregg perhaps ruining yet another TMNT series, it felt too predictable with the incoming attacks, escapes, fragment retrieval, and teaser for the next episode. Too much comic relief with Chompy and the Fugitoid, and the Triceratons felt a bit too silly here, and I really wanted more communication between them and Dregg to make it more interesting. There was a scary moment though with Casey/April nearly falling into the fire though. The end of this arc can't come soon enough.

Overall: 5/10

Vicky82
04-17-2016, 11:17 AM
Too much comic relief with Chompy

What comic relief, it was adorable not funny.

There was a scary moment though with Casey/April nearly falling into the fire though.

Yeah and Mikey falling into the lava was also scary.

GoldMutant
04-17-2016, 11:20 AM
What comic relief, it was adorable not funny

It's his opinion, let's not start another debate over disagreements. :roll: I don't feel Chompy was comic relief, but his main purpose this episode was just to be adorable outside the story with Tokka.

Vicky82
04-17-2016, 11:22 AM
It's his opinion, let's not start another debate over disagreements. :roll: I don't feel Chompy was comic relief, but his main purpose this episode was just to be adorable outside the story with Tokka.


I wasn't disagreeing over it, It just surprised me.

Yoshimickster
04-17-2016, 11:23 AM
Yes, I know. But I seriously hope that the second half flows better than the first.

I'm betting so, this was a silly season with a serious overarching plot, give the writers a chance to have all sorts of fun! I'm cool with it, because I've been LOVING the monster designs we've been getting.

IndigoErth
04-17-2016, 11:25 AM
Pretty good, definitely left me wanting the next episode right now. And... well that was easy to see coming, the part of the ground is the back of Tokka and she's Chompy's mother... yup. (And had kind of figured all along that the Turtles would have to try to stop everything once again on Earth or nearly there.)

I guess we know the actual fate of the world someday then (meanwhile Turtles are oblivious to this detail lol), destined to turn into a ball of lava thanks to Chompy; lets hope he (or should it really be she if Tokka presumably is a mateless space monster and they just hatch out clone babies as a replacement) takes eons to become what mom is/was.

Chompy - adorable. :D:tlove: ICK has some new competition for cute pet once they get home. Though that sound may get annoying if overdone. Nick and Playmates... hope there is going to be a toy Chompy out there at some point. :)

TigerClaw
04-17-2016, 11:42 AM
It was a pretty good episode, Chompy was cute, I just wonder how Slash is gonna react when he sees Raph having a new pet.

Yoshimickster
04-17-2016, 11:44 AM
It was a pretty good episode, Chompy was cute, I just wonder how Slash is gonna react when he sees Raph having a new pet.

Probably betrayed "RAPH! Are you CHEATING ON ME?!" Leading to a very awkward discussion.

picassotheninjaturtle
04-17-2016, 11:44 AM
Did anybody see Cudley the Cowlick as one of the six cosmic monsters?

Yoshimickster
04-17-2016, 12:22 PM
Did anybody see Cudley the Cowlick as one of the six cosmic monsters?

I didn't...but that is hilarious.

Vicky82
04-17-2016, 12:36 PM
IGN Review Up

8.5

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/04/17/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-the-ever-burning-fire-review

Utrommaniac
04-17-2016, 01:15 PM
Well, turns out the paradox is mostly resolved, sort of. We know how the Triceratons got the pieces in the first place. Now it's a matter of putting the Earth back in place. Changing the timeline sort of doesn't work, since they'd cancel themselves out.

And that Gamera shoutout with Tokka. I'm just waiting for someone to play the theme song after she (...I GUESS) blasts into space.

CyberCubed
04-17-2016, 01:15 PM
This episode was great, people who don't think the space episodes are well done are kidding themselves. They all have unique landscapes to base episodes on with different planets and ship battles.

Triceratons and Dregg were well done. I also like this version of Tokka being a giant fire breathing Turtle...although I do perhaps wonder if Chompy will turn into "Tokka Jr." at some point on Earth.

Utrommaniac
04-17-2016, 01:26 PM
It seems like Granitor is another one of the six beings for some reason?
Cudley Cowlick I can understand, though.
And who are the other three? Cthulu, a tick, and Audrey II?

Okay, not Audrey II, it's Hiidalra's pet in The Cosmic Ocean.

CyberCubed
04-17-2016, 01:27 PM
Can anyone post a screencap of the constellations?

Hero
04-17-2016, 02:02 PM
Episode acquired. Time to watch! ;)

Vicky82
04-17-2016, 02:12 PM
The amount of times Mikey nearly getting killed in this episode, also saving April a few times these past few episodes.

I feel that they are foreshadowing something bad will happen to Mikey maybe from saving someone's life.

Turtle-X
04-17-2016, 02:15 PM
it was a good episode but there were too many 'oh no! we're falling into lava!' moments.

Hero
04-17-2016, 03:34 PM
Wow! So many close calls there.

Absolutely loved Tokka! What a spectacle. Chompy too. Not only will he make a new addition to the family, but also something to show for the space arc. I can see him/her sticking around for the long run.

The way Fugitoid pilots the ship his head exposed in the control panel reminds me of the Zeroids from Terrahawks. Just dawned on me.

shredder orokusaki
04-17-2016, 03:48 PM
It was a good episode and a episode where the triceratons won! HAHAHHA Turtles suck!! One more episode until the earth is saved and i continue fighting the turtles!!!

CyberCubed
04-17-2016, 03:53 PM
So they didn't touch on Dregg having a robot head in the previous episode at all. This episode he seemed like a bug alien who could extend his arms and such but nothing about him seemed mechanical.

So I don't get it. He even mentioned how the Turtles killed his scorpion bug in the previous ep so he must have been the same one.

DVD
04-17-2016, 04:09 PM
Another hi octane adventure. It all whizzed by rather quickly for me as it didn't let up for a moment.
Planet graphics are jaw droppingly good.

Tokka was the ibvious standout in this episode.

So, one more space themed episode to go..... I'll miss Fugitoid, unless they decide to keep using him.

CyberCubed
04-17-2016, 04:10 PM
Technically next week is both a space episode and the first return to Earth episode at the same time.

Hero
04-17-2016, 04:11 PM
How gullible was Dregg towards the end... Saw that double-cross coming.

kelligrafie
04-17-2016, 04:43 PM
Seeing as Dregg is an android of sorts, I don't think we'll see the last of him. I mean even if the biological flesh side of him freezes in space, surely it won't stop the mechanical side of him working.

But I don't think Dregg was even necessary today. I felt that the drama could've been escalated as easily without him.

Don't get me wrong; I liked this episode but it felt as though it was over really quickly. Between the feature of Dregg, and I will echo the earlier comment that there were too many 'falling into lava' moments, I don't think the tension between the turtles and the triceratons was used effectively.

I mean the turtles saw this as their last chance to get the missing piece of the black hole generator, the stakes were at their highest, but there was very little, full on confrontation.

Unless we're saving the real drama for the final head-to-head I suppose.

On the plus side I LOVE little Chompy Picasso. He is the cutest.

TigerClaw
04-17-2016, 04:45 PM
Here's the Cudley the Cowlick reference.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgRoMsJW8AIjZDK.jpg:large

neatoman
04-17-2016, 04:53 PM
Here's the Cudley the Cowlick reference.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgRoMsJW8AIjZDK.jpg:large

... Traag? Really?

TMNTInsighter
04-17-2016, 05:15 PM
I'm okay with them doing it this way, make the first half a silly adventure season, and the second half a more serious one! ALSO-who wants to bet Karai dethrones Oroku Saki as Shredder?

I've thought the same thing myself though as an "Elseworlds" kind of thing as compared to what I have in mind for what's going to happen this season. In it, I just imagine Tiger Claw and Karai turning on Shredder (after Tiger Claw either learns of the events of "Annihilation Earth" or whatever happens in "Earth's Last Stand finally make him pull away from him), Karai ultimately landing the final blow--with "Flower of Carnage" by Meiko Kaji playing, a fitting song for Karai if I say so myself--and Tiger Claw bowing and letting her take the throne (while also making a slight growl to the others to bow in turn), and then she ultimately declares the Foot to ally with the Hamato Clan and the Mutanimals.
Like I said, "Elseworlds".

thundermaster612
04-17-2016, 05:19 PM
Dregg probably is part robot cause he shoots missiles out of his chest and has a partial robot head but he has organs and can eat and such, he's kinda like the Vreen

TMNTInsighter
04-17-2016, 05:20 PM
This episode was great, people who don't think the space episodes are well done are kidding themselves. They all have unique landscapes to base episodes on with different planets and ship battles.

Triceratons and Dregg were well done. I also like this version of Tokka being a giant fire breathing Turtle...although I do perhaps wonder if Chompy will turn into "Tokka Jr." at some point on Earth.

Exactly! I made this list once of the top 5 reasons you can't blame the series for destroying Earth and #2 was that the Ninja Turtles universe is expansive. Obviously, there have been other ways for the turtles to go into space but the guys running the show are really ambitious, we just need to see how the next episode will play out (as well as the final 33 episodes of the overall series) to see if the ambition is well realized.

Hero
04-17-2016, 05:58 PM
I wonder if Tokka will eventually show up on Earth.

CyberCubed
04-17-2016, 06:06 PM
... Traag? Really?

Traag returns with an army of rock soldiers hopefully.

Utrommaniac
04-17-2016, 06:11 PM
I'm more confused by what is apparently Cthulhu

CyberCubed
04-17-2016, 06:14 PM
I wonder if we'll actually see the rest of those monsters or those are just throwaway designs.

Utrommaniac
04-17-2016, 06:24 PM
I'm surprised some of them aren't shoutouts to Ciro's other shows. Sort of like how one of the other cosmic beings besides Wyrm was in the robot monkey show. And it was almost exactly identical too.

TigerClaw
04-17-2016, 06:37 PM
I can see Cudley the Cowlick showing up in a later season.

Darth Knuckles
04-17-2016, 06:38 PM
I really liked this episode. Chompy is really cute and I was surprised how much I liked this new Tokka. I liked all of the fighting and back and forth with Captain Mozar and Lord Dregg too.

I really liked how Cudley the Cowlick was One of the Six Great Cosmic Monsters of the Universe! I wonder if the Cthulhu creature is another Archie reference of Naughtikus the Kraken? And could the last cosmic monster be a reference to Maligna's Hive-World or Maligna herself maybe?

Ceres
04-17-2016, 06:54 PM
I'm more confused by what is apparently Cthulhu

It reminds me on the Mortus Mollucos or whatever this thing was called that feasted on dead Utrom's memories from the Mirage Comics.

Utrommaniac
04-17-2016, 07:04 PM
It reminds me on the Mortus Mollucos or whatever this thing was called that feasted on dead Utrom's memories from the Mirage Comics.

It does look a little like that! Combine it with the thing that looks like a tick, and then you'd get even closer.

Ceres
04-17-2016, 07:18 PM
It does look a little like that! Combine it with the thing that looks like a tick, and then you'd get even closer.

yep, that was my initial thought. Who knows xD. Maybe its the Kraang's secret weapon lol.

matteso586
04-17-2016, 07:53 PM
I actually expected Dregg to team up with the Triceratons. I just don't know how long it would last.

If this whole arc turned out to be one of those stable time loops, I wonder how the gang would react to that revelation.

tmntsplinterfan1997
04-17-2016, 07:57 PM
I can't believe Lord Dregg delivered the last Black Hole Generator piece to Mozar. :( But I hope the Turtles would come up with a plan to stop the Triceratons. What they'll need is to make a sacrifice. :)

TMNTInsighter
04-17-2016, 08:16 PM
I can't believe Lord Dregg delivered the last Black Hole Generator piece to Mozar. :( But I hope the Turtles would come up with a plan to stop the Triceratons. What they'll need is to make a sacrifice. :)

You're thinking Honeycutt, right? It always happens to him in this franchise. Though I'm not really looking forward to it...:cry:

tmntsplinterfan1997
04-17-2016, 08:57 PM
You're thinking Honeycutt, right? It always happens to him in this franchise. Though I'm not really looking forward to it...:cry:

Yeah me too.

Mini-Turtle
04-17-2016, 08:59 PM
Also think that Honeycutt will be sacrificed, but will back himself up somehow.

TLP
04-17-2016, 09:11 PM
Best episode in a while. :)

I will say, this show is incredible at creating genuine threats for the heroes to face. Like, they get tossed around and beaten with ease by Dregg and the Triceratons, yet more firepower and/or powerful enemies show up making the situation almost hopeless.

If Half-Shell Heroes: Blast to the Past is supposed to take place later in Season 4 or 5, the turtles were strong enough to take down Triceratons by that point, and Shredder was already able to easily take one down with bare hands! I actually love that they're progressively building up the turtles' skill levels to where they're finally able to take on the Shredder. That f*cker is ridiculously powerful for a human being. O_o

turtlefan1
04-17-2016, 09:23 PM
Hm it seems Mozar now knows the turtles are from the future and the amusing thing he probably was shown was the past turtles fighting zog.

NikitaZhukov
04-17-2016, 09:44 PM
Hm it seems Mozar now knows the turtles are from the future and the amusing thing he probably was shown was the past turtles fighting zog.

I think Mozar was informed about The Kraang hiding on Earth and that's why he changed his decision. But your version is actually interesting.

saber16
04-18-2016, 02:31 AM
Look like Raph's got a new turtle buddy, curious if he'll stick around as a pet or if he'll go the route of Spike and get some mutagen in his system.

Any guesses what the "Amusing" information is that Mozar finds out about at the end?
The only think I can think of is footage of the Turtles on Earth, at the exact same time he was chasing them in space.

FredWolfLeonardo
04-18-2016, 02:32 AM
Great episode in my opinion. Wonder if we'll ever get a Zog appearance in the future episode though, i think I remember mozar mentioning him briefly in this one?

shredder orokusaki
04-18-2016, 03:10 AM
Best episode in a while. :)

I will say, this show is incredible at creating genuine threats for the heroes to face. Like, they get tossed around and beaten with ease by Dregg and the Triceratons, yet more firepower and/or powerful enemies show up making the situation almost hopeless.

If Half-Shell Heroes: Blast to the Past is supposed to take place later in Season 4 or 5, the turtles were strong enough to take down Triceratons by that point, and Shredder was already able to easily take one down with bare hands! I actually love that they're progressively building up the turtles' skill levels to where they're finally able to take on the Shredder. That f*cker is ridiculously powerful for a human being. O_o

Yes i am the most powerful ninja ! No matter how hard the turtles try they can not and will never defeat me. In the end of the show i will kill all of them and conquer New York!!!

FlawedCoil82
04-18-2016, 03:44 AM
Well I definitely was not expecting to see Tokka as a lava Gamera. When I saw her jets fire, at first I thought they were coming from her legs. I was just waiting for her to start spinning through space.

But overall a pretty decent episode. Like Mikey, I am just bored with the whole space arc and am glad that it will be over soon.

JH24
04-18-2016, 05:27 AM
Now that was a good episode. Action-packed and entertaining. The Triceratons may be villains, but they definitely know how to get the job done. They're the biggest threat so far in the series.

The ending left me with a strange and kind of sad feeling inside. After following the turtles episode after episode trying to stop the Triceratons from destroying Earth, it turns out all their efforts were in vain. And now they have only one chance left. I got to admit it to the writers, they certainly know how to build up tension.


It makes me wonder what will happen with the timelines, because now we have two groups of turtles existing at the same time. The one group who travelled back into the past, and the others who still live on Earth in the present.

drgon78
04-18-2016, 06:03 AM
Another fun space episode, I am going to miss this when they are back at New York.

matteso586
04-18-2016, 08:24 AM
Best episode in a while. :)

I will say, this show is incredible at creating genuine threats for the heroes to face. Like, they get tossed around and beaten with ease by Dregg and the Triceratons, yet more firepower and/or powerful enemies show up making the situation almost hopeless.

If Half-Shell Heroes: Blast to the Past is supposed to take place later in Season 4 or 5, the turtles were strong enough to take down Triceratons by that point, and Shredder was already able to easily take one down with bare hands! I actually love that they're progressively building up the turtles' skill levels to where they're finally able to take on the Shredder. That f*cker is ridiculously powerful for a human being. O_o

I don't think Half-Shell Heroes: Blast to the Past is canon. More like a 2D animated spin-off, just to promote a toy line. Remember The Super Hero Squad Show?

srmff
04-18-2016, 10:31 AM
Any guesses what the "Amusing" information is that Mozar finds out about at the end?

I just assumed that the amusing information was that the Kraang were on Earth and they knew that that was where the turtles were from. In a sense killing two birds with one stone.

ranger_scout
04-18-2016, 05:03 PM
Chompy really is cute. However, I am not sure how long Raphael can keep him because he might grow gigantic like his mother.

NoName999
04-18-2016, 06:55 PM
UGH can't the space arc just END, please?

And how many times did the Turtles almost fall into lava? After the third time I was like "Okay the shock ran its course. You can stop."

Also possible plothole but does time flow run on Gargolyes stable time loop logic? Cause if so, the Triceratons in should have recognized the Turtles when they came to Earth back in Season 3. But nothing back then points to that.

And what ranger scount said about Chompy. Especially if he's a immortal/very slow age rate

CyberCubed
04-18-2016, 07:04 PM
What is with peoples problem with the space arc? Especially with good eps like this one.

ToTheNines
04-18-2016, 07:49 PM
Why does no one miss Ice Cream Kitty?

tmntsplinterfan1997
04-18-2016, 07:55 PM
Is it possible that the turtles, April and Casey are going to meet their past selves and stop Shredder from killing Splinter?

Powder
04-18-2016, 07:58 PM
Why does no one miss Ice Cream Kitty?

Aaaaah, I had forgotten about her... I do love that little critter. Now I'm sad. :tcry:

ssjup81
04-18-2016, 08:21 PM
This episode was great! Loved it! Poor Mikey, but I like that the reason he got nearly killed was because he was saving someone else. He saved April and Casey and even Raph. I'm so loving both Mikey and Raph this season. Raph was so so so adorable this episode! I love seeing his sensitive and soft side.

Now as for Dregg...is he um dead?

That aside, this would be one of my favs this season, along with last episode where Mona Lisa betrayed the turtles, the ep where they found that crystal because everyone was angry and stuff and Fugitoid threatened to slap them ( :lol: This is my slapping hand, don't make me use this), and Transdimensional Turtles.

MikeandRaph87
04-18-2016, 08:49 PM
Tokka a female fire breathing space guardian? This is my issue with the Nicktoon using classic names for mostly unrelated concepts. Chompy? It reminded me of the pet dinosaur from Turtles In Time. I do wonder if it was inspired in any way.


I appreciate the arc for what it was, but is it like the Northampton farmhouse arc in that it was too extensive? Would it have worked better as something like 6 episodes?

CyberCubed
04-18-2016, 09:39 PM
Tokka a female fire breathing space guardian? This is my issue with the Nicktoon using classic names for mostly unrelated concepts.

Uh what? Tokka was a turtle (or gamera). How is it unrelated? Just because its not a regular small mutant doesn't mean its not the character.

victory_angel
04-18-2016, 11:14 PM
Is it possible that the turtles, April and Casey are going to meet their past selves and stop Shredder from killing Splinter?


well let's see...one of the main points of going back in time is to not let anyone one see you...least of all yourselves.

So in a high-stress situation when you encounter yourselves from the future. You aren't going to automatically think they have something important to tell you. You are going to think they must be something invented by the Kraang or the Triceratons.

LeotheLateBloomer
04-19-2016, 12:20 AM
Pretty good episode! Raph finally has a new turtle to make up for Slash.

I was shocked by Leo's comment of not wanting to return the baby turtle to his mother like April suggested. As well as his concern about earth instead of Tokka. It felt a little out of character, let alone hurtful to me (and Raph).

Not too bothered of how they made Tokka in this version but chances of teaming up with Rahzar are slim to none (which I'm fine with). I hope it's okay.:tcry: Would you guys say best version of Tokka or nah?

ToTheNines
04-19-2016, 05:07 AM
Uh what? Tokka was a turtle (or gamera). How is it unrelated? Just because its not a regular small mutant doesn't mean its not the character.

How is it any different than the Hun thing?

ssjup81
04-19-2016, 05:30 AM
Hm, thinking about it, if Tokka can grow so big, does that mean Chompy will too?

neatoman
04-19-2016, 06:49 AM
How is it any different than the Hun thing?

Yeah, if anything it's an even bigger alteration to the character.

Chabrendeki
04-19-2016, 07:47 AM
How is it any different than the Hun thing?

The mutated Hun-Turte in Turtles Forever isn't Tokka... Tokka appears briely in the army of the Shredder.

Besides: I find it interesting, that Slash in his original appereance is a turtle-like alien, and Tokka is a mutated snapping turtle.

In the new appereances it's twisted around: Slash is a mutated snapping turtle (both in the IDW comics and the Nick show) and Tokka is the turtle-like alien...

LeotheLateBloomer
04-19-2016, 08:09 AM
Hm, thinking about it, if Tokka can grow so big, does that mean Chompy will too?

Ya know, that is something to be concerned about.:o

The mutated Hun-Turte in Turtles Forever isn't Tokka... Tokka appears briely in the army of the Shredder.

Besides: I find it interesting, that Slash in his original appereance is a turtle-like alien, and Tokka is a mutated snapping turtle.

In the new appereances it's twisted around: Slash is a mutated snapping turtle (both in the IDW comics and the Nick show) and Tokka is the turtle-like alien...

I believe ToTheNines was referring to CyberCubed's complaint about Hun's appearance in this series, not really Turtles Forever.

But yeah, that too is also interesting.

Chabrendeki
04-19-2016, 08:39 AM
I believe ToTheNines was referring to CyberCubed's complaint about Hun's appearance in this series, not really Turtles Forever.


Oh, I see! This "Hunce Lee".. Yeah, that was kinda odd... But there were at least some common points: both leaders of the Purple Dragons and both from unbeatable strength.

Powder
04-19-2016, 10:02 AM
Funny enough, he made an appearance in the kids comic recently & was mistakenly colored (a far too frequent occurrence, it's riddled with errors) with black hair. It was literally just Bruce Lee. :tlol:

THGhost
04-19-2016, 11:03 AM
Great episode, love Tokka's redesign. That's one serious upgrade.

Chompy Picasso is so cute. ^_^

Is it possible that the turtles, April and Casey are going to meet their past selves and stop Shredder from killing Splinter?

I hope so, that'd be awesome.

kelligrafie
04-19-2016, 12:49 PM
Crazy suggestion but what if, Chompy ends up becoming Tokka.

Hear me out. I read somewhere that Tokka is a He and a She.

Renet is going to be showing up again this season and maybe she helps the turtles to restore Earth in a time loop way.

As in, they see Earth being destroyed and shoot off with Fugitoid to begin their space journey to stop it from happening, but at the same time, their future future selves bring Earth back WHILE they're searching for the black hole pieces. Because they've got their past selves on earth and their current selves in space, so they could have another future set of turtles as well. Think of it like Marty McFly in the second Back To The Future goes to 1965, but he's already there when he originally travelled from 1985.

And to complete the time loop Chompy grows at an accelerated speed (he's pretty small now, so he'd have to grow very quickly to reach Tokka's size right?) to take Tokka's place guarding the black hole fragment?

Hence Tokka (female) lays the egg, which hatches into Chompy (male). Chompy grows and takes Tokka's place, and essentially becomes Tokka, ready to defend the black hole piece when the triceratons show up. There could even be a sex change along the way like in Jurassic Park when they switch gender. ;)

Or maybe I'm reading too much into it.

CyberCubed
04-19-2016, 01:02 PM
I said Chompy might become Tokka Jr.

Powder
04-19-2016, 01:20 PM
Crazy suggestion but what if, Chompy ends up becoming Tokka.

Hear me out. I read somewhere that Tokka is a He and a She.

Renet is going to be showing up again this season and maybe she helps the turtles to restore Earth in a time loop way.

As in, they see Earth being destroyed and shoot off with Fugitoid to begin their space journey to stop it from happening, but at the same time, their future future selves bring Earth back WHILE they're searching for the black hole pieces. Because they've got their past selves on earth and their current selves in space, so they could have another future set of turtles as well. Think of it like Marty McFly in the second Back To The Future goes to 1965, but he's already there when he originally travelled from 1985.

And to complete the time loop Chompy grows at an accelerated speed (he's pretty small now, so he'd have to grow very quickly to reach Tokka's size right?) to take Tokka's place guarding the black hole fragment?

Hence Tokka (female) lays the egg, which hatches into Chompy (male). Chompy grows and takes Tokka's place, and essentially becomes Tokka, ready to defend the black hole piece when the triceratons show up. There could even be a sex change along the way like in Jurassic Park when they switch gender. ;)

Or maybe I'm reading too much into it.

https://media.giphy.com/media/l41lFCc6418dDU7GE/giphy.gif

Utrommaniac
04-19-2016, 01:57 PM
I do wonder why Chompy's egg was so incredibly tiny compared to Tokka, though. And how Tokka even built his nest. The mental image of Tokka delicately stacking tiny little sticks into it is great, though.

Personally, I like to think that Tokka and Chompy aren't related, but are species that live in a symbiotic relationship and just happen to look similar. Tokka gives tiny space turtles a place to for shelter on her back, and the Chompies eat parasites and any other nasties that might be running around with them. The alertness to one another might not be a maternal one, but still instinctive. The assumption that he's Tokka's baby is probably just the mammal side of their brains kicking in with the cute baby hatching all by itself.

Clearly, he does/did have parents because of the nest, but I highly doubt Tokka built it.

Splinter the boss
04-19-2016, 02:51 PM
Or maybe I'm reading too much into it.
That's that.

THGhost
04-20-2016, 09:10 AM
Crazy suggestion but what if, Chompy ends up becoming Tokka.

I think everybody thought that. Even the poll suggests that Chompy will be come Tokka 2.0 or Venus. :P

Vicky82
04-20-2016, 11:13 AM
I think everybody thought that. Even the poll suggests that Chompy will be come Tokka 2.0 or Venus. :P

They were the only 2 turtles I could think off :P

marcelangelo
04-20-2016, 02:18 PM
I am still hopibg they are doing an Episode called SON OF TOKKA:tgrin:

neatoman
04-20-2016, 02:56 PM
I am still hopibg they are doing an Episode called SON OF TOKKA:tgrin:

Don't you mean the proper name "Manhattan's Decisive Battle: Son of Tokka"?

Casey
04-24-2016, 09:15 AM
I am frustrated that they failed to procure and keep a single piece of the black hole generator. The whole season was a waste now and I don't understand why Dregg keeps coming back, but I hope this space shot was the end. I love the Triceratons and I even like that they included Dregg and of course Armaggon, but lets hone in on the main plot now and keep it to the former and the Heart of Darkness please. Finish it!

Splinter the boss
04-24-2016, 10:58 AM
The arc was not a waste if you think about it. The earth is no longer destroyed and Splinter is alive. That was the purpose of the arc, to undo the things that have been done. And, the turtles had the opportunity to better their skills against strong foes which they will need against the foot.

Shiro Kame
05-01-2016, 01:59 AM
Dammit, Dregg...He reminds me of some people who are willing to screw people over just to get what they want. Good thing that thug decided to be stupid and demand more way more currency than was originally agreed on. After all he's done, he deserved that apparent death...why do I feel like he's not gone for good...?

Also, Chompy was pretty cute. It was a nice moment of having Raph getting nipped by him, yet not getting pissed. It was both a moment of heartwarming and showed some character development for Raph when he did his best to protect Chompy no matter what.

Also, that ending...The turtles better bring their A-Game before the Earth is destroyed... (For some damn reason, it takes much longer for episodes to air in Canada compared to America...It sucks...)

Powder
05-01-2016, 02:57 AM
Dammit, Dregg...He reminds me of some people who are willing to screw people over just to get what they want.

Similarly, water reminds me of H20. :trazz: