Jurassic World 2 to be directed by J.A. Bayona [Archive]

sdp

04-18-2016, 09:51 PM

Jurassic Park is my favorite movie so I'm pretty damn excited. Unlike many I enjoyed JW a lot and was satisfied. Most of my worries like the trained Raptors or hybrids ended up working for me, I can definitely nitpick the movie but the only thing I didn't like was the final fight which seemed very superhero movie inspired and shouldn't have been that long. I also didn't like the subplot of using dinosaurs as weapons for the army but was glad when it seemed to finish when Hoshkins is killed, however...
Trevorrow has hinted many times before and after JW about the military wanting dinosaurs. Most of the fandom is against the nicknamed Jurassic War and that's a movie I would not want to see. I'm holding hope since JW had such a surprise box office that they'll be extra careful about what they do, I mean this movie did SW VIII numbers. So here's hoping they come to their senses or that it is done in a way that I can get behind like with the trained raptors and hybrid.

As far as other hints some fans had speculated that it could be about an "ice age" park since the viral website implied this was being worked on. That would be cool but I think it was just a reference to the Jurassic Park Builder mobile game which has an ice age park, that same website also had references to JP:The Game which came out in 2012 or so. I mean it's something new and I'd be up for it but of course there's the problem ice age creatures not being dinosaurs.

There's also the rumors that they're filming in London. While I'd prefer the films to stay in one of the two islands I'd be ok with this as well since if done right it could work and it'd be a nice reference to the classic novel The Lost World. Sure TLW:JP already tired the T-Rex in the city and to me that was terrible but the original book already had a nice scene of dinosaurs in the mainland as did two comic series so if written well it can definitely work. It has to be kept in a small area though for it to work better and if not written well then it'll be a mess.

Finally its worth noting that there's an official "Hybrids" list by Univeral. At first everyone thought the hybrids you could create in the JW mobile game were original from the developer and the Stegoceratops an original from Hasbro toys that the game later copied but we saw that this wasn't the case. A kids book about hybrids came out which basically had all the hybrids from the JW game and pretty much at the same time a JW Hybrids toyline started coming out with the same hybrids from the book/game. I would love a movie based on hybrids since they're pretty cool but I doubt JW2 will be about this since they wouldn't blow their plot 2 years before the movie comes out with tons of merchandise about it but I'd totally be down for that, this was the idea of a previous toyline JP:Chaos Effect back in 1998 with the same premise.

Andrew NDB

04-18-2016, 10:18 PM

Too bad they couldn't get Trevorrow back for this.......simply to keep him away from Episode IX.

I don't know... he seems like a capable director. It's not his fault he had a sh*tty script for JW. And "Safety Not Guaranteed" was awesome in what he was able to achieve with a pretty low budget.

ProactiveMan

04-19-2016, 03:53 AM

How long until they make Jurassic Park vs Predator?

NinjaPug

04-19-2016, 07:05 AM

I don't know... he seems like a capable director. It's not his fault he had a sh*tty script for JW. And "Safety Not Guaranteed" was awesome in what he was able to achieve with a pretty low budget.

He had a big hand in the JW script. He wouldn't come on board as director until he got approval to change things in the script.

The Deadman

07-21-2016, 11:21 AM

Jurassic World 2 to begin production February 2017; Returning to Hawaii (http://jurassicoutpost.com/jurassic-world-2-begin-production-february-2017-returning-hawaii/)

CyberCubed

07-21-2016, 10:22 PM

Will this movie finally solve the epic cliffhanger from the previous film about if the kids parents settled through with the divorce? How are the kids going to handle the divorce? I want to know about the two teenage brothers!

The Deadman

07-21-2016, 10:26 PM

CyberCubed

07-21-2016, 10:32 PM

Really? I'd be surprised if they weren't.

The Deadman

07-21-2016, 10:39 PM

If they're in it it'll be in the beginning like a cameo since they're filming in Hawaii then the majority is being filmed in England for some strange reason.

Allio

07-21-2016, 10:53 PM

can't tell if cubed is being sarcastic again.

Wildcat

07-21-2016, 11:22 PM

So they're gonna introduce other parks around the world? That sounds pretty cool. I enjoyed JW but it does need a change of environment. It's been literally 4 jungle themed movies.

I'd still like to see dinosaurs running around in civilization. I know it wasn't very interesting in Lost World but it was so short. It'd be more exciting if they had more than one dino loose in the city.

snake

07-22-2016, 01:29 AM

Too bad they couldn't get Trevorrow back for this.......simply to keep him away from Episode IX.

This. Must feel good to direct a small film then get F*CKING JURASSIC PARK and then F*CKING STAR WARS. How many dicks do you reckon he sucked for this?

The Deadman

09-19-2016, 12:10 PM

Jurassic World 2 Will Have Budget Of $260 Million (http://411mania.com/movies/jurassic-world-2-will-have-budget-of-260-million/)

TheSkeletonMan939

09-19-2016, 12:17 PM

What in the name of heaven will they be spending 260 million bucks on??

TigerClaw

09-19-2016, 01:30 PM

What in the name of heaven will they be spending 260 million bucks on??
Half will probably be for the FX and building practical sets.

TheSkeletonMan939

09-19-2016, 01:48 PM

But that's more than the budget for TFA!

TigerClaw

09-19-2016, 02:13 PM

But that's more than the budget for TFA!
The other half will be to for paying the actors, the production crew and such.

Spike Spiegel

09-19-2016, 03:41 PM

What in the name of heaven will they be spending 260 million bucks on??

https://i.imgflip.com/vrfms.jpg

sdp

09-19-2016, 10:26 PM

Confirmed fake, it will have a huge boost in the budget though and that's because JW did nearly as good as Star flippin' Wars.

Wildcat

09-19-2016, 11:23 PM

Well since its supposed to be about multiple parks, or at least one other one, a bigger budget is not a surprise.

I hope Bryce Dallas Howard returns.

The Deadman

09-20-2016, 12:58 PM

Her and Chris Pratt are gonna be in this and the 3rd one.

The Deadman

11-08-2016, 12:02 PM

Two New Folk Are in Talks to Get Eaten in ‘Jurassic World 2’ (http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3413732/two-new-folk-talks-get-eaten-jurassic-world-2/)

Wildcat

11-08-2016, 10:29 PM

It mentions animatronics but really JW's cgi was great.

People complain but I think because we see the dinosaurs move around so much is what makes the cgi apparent. Not the quality of the cgi.

turtlefanforever

11-09-2016, 07:42 AM

i really hope they do right by this one.

The Deadman

01-24-2017, 10:25 AM

‘Jurassic World’ Sequel Featuring Two Female Leads (http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3422246/jurassic-world-sequel-featuring-two-female-leads/)

Andrew NDB

01-24-2017, 11:25 AM

Goldblum, Dern, or Neill or bust.

The Deadman

01-24-2017, 11:30 AM

Neill and Goldblum have already said they wouldnt be in it and that it was time for others to have the part.

Andrew NDB

01-24-2017, 11:39 AM

Neill and Goldblum have already said they wouldnt be in it and that it was time for others to have the part.

I thought they said that the last time around (JW1). I haven't heard anything from them this trip around the merry-go-round.

sdp

01-24-2017, 03:31 PM

Goldblum, Dern, or Neill or bust.
I thought they said that the last time around (JW1). I haven't heard anything from them this trip around the merry-go-round.

Neill and Goldblum have already said they wouldnt be in it and that it was time for others to have the part.

What they mentioned is more along the lines of they haven't made any effort to contact them and they don't seem to mind, Neil jokingly said that Grant might've died already in the JP movies but they've all said they'd be willing to return .

Should they return though?
I love them and wouldn't mind at all if they were main characters again but if you think about it, it just doesn't make sense storywise that theyd return after the events of TLW with Malcolm and JP/// with Sattler/Grant. It'd only make sense if they had a cameo or something in a TV interview discussing the events of Jurassic World or something but not in the middle of the action. I don't think they will do it either but I would love it if they were in the sequel though.

Andrew NDB

01-24-2017, 04:17 PM

I love them and wouldn't mind at all if they were main characters again but if you think about it, it just doesn't make sense storywise that theyd return after the events of TLW with Malcolm and JP/// with Sattler/Grant. It'd only make sense if they had a cameo or something in a TV interview discussing the events of Jurassic World or something but not in the middle of the action. I don't think they will do it either but I would love it if they were in the sequel though.

It would make about as much sense as another company insuring a park for dinos after what happened the first time. They could easily find some in-story reason for why they'd need Malcolm or Grant's expertise.

The Deadman

02-16-2017, 07:46 PM

James Cromwell Joins Jurassic World 2 (http://411mania.com/movies/james-cromwell-joins-jurassic-world-2/)

The Deadman

03-08-2017, 02:40 PM

Dinosaurs On Display in the First Official ‘Jurassic World 2’ Image! (http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3427550/dinosaurs-display-first-official-jurassic-world-2-image/)

sdp

03-10-2017, 10:18 PM

Not much to comment on the image but it does its job at teasing, I'm guessing we'll get a teaser trailer at SDCC but who knows since the movie would still be a year away from SDCC. For JW we didn't really get a teaser until it was like a few months away, they really didn't expect it to be the huge success that it was, I mean it beat Avengers 2.

Hard to believe that Jurassic Park V is coming out in a year and a half, I mean I waited nearly 15 years for Jurassic Park IV. And yet they're taking their time, since it was scheduled 3 years later after JW and not the usual "2 year" wait to cash in on the franchise. The first trilogy did the same with a new movie every 4 years.

The Deadman

04-05-2017, 01:35 PM

Jurassic Park‘s ‘Rexy’ Will Return For Jurassic World 2 (http://411mania.com/movies/jurassic-parks-rexy-will-return-for-jurassic-world-2/)

CyberCubed

04-05-2017, 01:39 PM

The first movie was hot garbage, I don't have much faith in this one.

Then again we haven't had a single "good" Jurrassic Park movie since the original, so I guess it's par the course by now.

Andrew NDB

04-05-2017, 01:45 PM

Then again we haven't had a single "good" Jurrassic Park movie since the original, so I guess it's par the course by now.

I remember liking the Lost World a lot more than the first one. But I don't think I've seen it since I was a kid in the theater.

The Deadman

04-05-2017, 01:55 PM

The first movie was hot garbage, I don't have much faith in this one.

Then again we haven't had a single "good" Jurrassic Park movie since the original, so I guess it's par the course by now.

You couldnt be more wrong.

CyberCubed

04-05-2017, 02:12 PM

You couldnt be more wrong.

Lost World and 3 were far worse than the original. Decent at best just for the action.

Jurassic World was just so bad, I couldn't believe how awful it was. And this is coming from someone who was hyped for it.

Wildcat

04-05-2017, 11:20 PM

Jurassic World is what Lost World/3 should have been.

Lost World was all over the place and 3 was just a generic dinosaur movie. Which was fine but the plot with the kid was just stupid.

oldmanwinters

04-05-2017, 11:27 PM

I remember liking the Lost World a lot more than the first one. But I don't think I've seen it since I was a kid in the theater.

I think it still has its moments... both impressive and terrible. Spielberg still directs some intense scenes and uses a lot of practical effects in combination with the cgi. And then you have silly scenes between parents and a kid saving the day with impractical gymnastics. I guess Spielberg was big on that kind of thing in the 90s.

What in the name of heaven will they be spending 260 million bucks on??

"Spared no expense!"

sdp

04-06-2017, 03:39 PM

I liked Jurassic World plenty even with its flaws and I'm really looking forward to the sequel. JP is one of my favorite franchises so it's awesome to see it revived. Will any movie come close to the original? Of course not, it's a classic that finishes telling its story by the end of it.
Are sequels still cool regardless because this universe has living dinosaurs on an island? hell yeah!

The Lost World JP : A bit of a disappointment to me since it has so many cool ideas but the movie doesn't execute them well and it ends up lacking, I hate the t-Rex in the city segment. Plenty of redeeming features that make it worth watching to me even if it blundered a bunch of possibilities.

Jurassic Park ///: Indeed a generic dinosaur movie but set in Jurassic Park, but that's my thing and it's awesome for it. I hate the military ending (redeemed in JW) and that Allan/Ellie didn't get married. I like it more than TLW for the fact that it never sets high expectations and it delivers in the basic premise it sets out to do.

Jurassic World: Re-creates scenes from the original with a new twist and that new twist made watching it pretty fun. Nothing groundbreaking but it does a good job. I hate the superhero-esque T-Rex vs Indominous Rex fight at the end.

All sequels have a few flaws but I enjoy them almost equally, there really isn't one I hate. Now that it's been confirmed that the rumored Jurassic War film that JW kind of sets up isn't happening I'm a bit relaxed they won't f-ck it up.

So yeah I'll enjoy the fun sequels even if they'll never hit any of the high notes of the original, they're still fun, I kind of wish we'd gotten a "park clean up" movie but I guess it'll never happen. Now the only thing that could surpass the original movie is if after the Jurassic World trilogy they reboot the series a few years later with a remake of Jurassic Park that stays true to the original novel, it would be the only way to remake Jurassic Park without it being in the shadows of the Spielberg classic. They can make a sequel with TLW's true to the novel adaptation and that both would have to be rated R if they're true to the books making Andrew happy so we all win.

NinjaPug

04-25-2017, 08:44 PM

Sequel will automatically be better now.

Jeff Goldblum Joins 'Jurassic World' Sequel (Exclusive)

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/jeff-goldblum-joins-jurassic-world-sequel-997569?utm_source=twitter&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=Direct

Andrew NDB

04-25-2017, 08:49 PM

Goldblum, Dern, or Neill or bust.

Sequel will automatically be better now.

Jeff Goldblum Joins 'Jurassic World' Sequel (Exclusive)

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/jeff-goldblum-joins-jurassic-world-sequel-997569?utm_source=twitter&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=Direct

They listened!

TheSkeletonMan939

04-25-2017, 08:50 PM

O_O

Wow. I was under the impression that none of the original cast were too interested in returning to the franchise.

NinjaPug

04-25-2017, 08:54 PM

Wow. I was under the impression that none of the original cast were too interested in returning to the franchise.

Life finds a way.....

sdp

04-25-2017, 10:14 PM

All 3 have always been open to returning but they just don't thin they would be called back.

I'm super excited, this movie also seems to be more of a dark thriller/horror movie so at least they seem to be doing something different.

Jurassic Park really is my new "Star Wars" in terms of excitement, the whole eagerly awaiting for the new movie coming out 3 years later.

ProphetofGanja

04-25-2017, 10:19 PM

Jeffy Golds! Nice

Wildcat

04-25-2017, 11:09 PM

Cool. I like Jeff Goldblum. I hope it's more than a quick cameo.

sdp

04-25-2017, 11:12 PM

An insider in a JP forum basically confirmed it's not a cameo but he's actually part of the cast and no Sam Neil in this movie. Crossing my fingers for Sam Neil in JW ///.

We're apparently also getting a JW Survivor game for consoles and PC which should be announced soon and the JW comics also start this year, it's a good time to be a JP fan. Tough times from 2002 until before JW was finally announced.

Wildcat

04-25-2017, 11:23 PM

Just read JW2 might not take place on an island. So that would make more sense for him to get involved somehow. I mean because the notion was they wouldn't purposely return to an island with dinosaurs.

I really hope it deals with either 2 separate parks which I think was mentioned or the mainland.

The Deadman

04-26-2017, 04:44 AM

No I'm pretty sure they said they were going back to the island for a scene or 2.

The Deadman

04-28-2017, 10:37 AM

James Cromwell Reveals His Jurassic World 2 Character Ties Into the Original Film
Read more at http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/842817-james-cromwell-reveals-his-jurassic-world-2-character-ties-into-the-original-film#0rTuBGIPEA3lXxFH.99

Andrew NDB

04-28-2017, 11:10 AM

Jurassic World is what Lost World/3 should have been.

That would be beyond ridiculous. They just re-open the park a couple of years after the first one, like in JW, and that's JP2? JW is like a less-interesting requel of the first one. It only barely works because at this point it's been like 20 years since the first one, making it somewhat believable.

Sidenote: why is everyone calling the new movie JW2? It's clearly Jurassic Park 5, more evident than ever with their bringing back Malcolm now. I doubt "World" will even be in the title.

The Deadman

04-28-2017, 12:03 PM

Because its not Jurassic Park 5 in name, and Malcolm has a supporting role as opposed to being the main.

NinjaPug

04-28-2017, 12:25 PM

Of course this is Jurassic Park part 5.

sdp

04-28-2017, 08:49 PM

Ian Malcolm made no sense as the main character for TLW, he was used because the book had him but the movie is nothing like the book so why keep Ian? I know I wanted Grant for Jurassic Park 2 as a kid, at least we got him back for 3.

As a kid I loved JP and wanted JP2 so badly, I always expected it to be like the Series II figures of the toyline and the JP// Chaos Effect SNES game which dealt with trying to take control back of the park and recovering the embryos in the shaving cream but that never happened.

I was so mad that the viral websites for JW basically contained information that the reconstruction of the park and hints of the ACU Unit we see in JW basically doing everything I wanted for a sequel but here it was done off-screen.

Sidenote: why is everyone calling the new movie JW2? It's clearly Jurassic Park 5, more evident than ever with their bringing back Malcolm now. I doubt "World" will even be in the title.

Universal itself made sure to specify they were two different brands, Jurassic Park and Jurassic World. They even have two official twitter accounts depending on the brand so they seem to want to handle it this way.

Also they wanted to set up JW as the first of a new trilogy and they will all be linked somewhat and not necessarily directly related to say the original trilogy. Hell Isla Sorna is never even mentioned in JW. So yeah the JP fandom thinks the next movie will be JW:Subtitle or Jurassic _____, hence the fanon named JW Trilogy or Jurassic Trilogy.

But yeah it's indeed Jurassic Park 5 and that's awesome, they actually mentioned this movie would have more links to the first movie than JW, whatever that may mean since JW is fairly linked to JP1.

Because its not Jurassic Park 5 in name, and Malcolm has a supporting role as opposed to being the main.

Ian Malcolm reportedly will have a big role in the movie, he's not just a quick appearance like Ellie Sattler in JP/// or Hammond and the kids in TLW.

Just read JW2 might not take place on an island. So that would make more sense for him to get involved somehow. I mean because the notion was they wouldn't purposely return to an island with dinosaurs.

I really hope it deals with either 2 separate parks which I think was mentioned or the mainland.

We know for a fact that at least some parts of the movie have to take place in Isla Nublar since they filmed in Hawaii and re-used some set pieces of JW. There were rumors that it would take place in London because it was going to be filmed there but it was later confirmed they were only filming there but the movie did not take place in London.

Will all the movie be in the islands? I think it's likely but if it isn't then at least a big part will. I actually think a lot of it will take place in a laboratory. They seem to be going for a scary/thriller movie with this one based on some comments like "since this movie will come out 3 years later the kids who grew up with it will be teenagers" and "It'll be scarier and more mature".

Wildcat

04-28-2017, 11:29 PM

I see a rumor that it's about Owen trying to rescue dinosaurs from Ingen and the government trying to bomb the island. Who knows. Only the filmmakers know.

I just hope it's not essentially the same "Dinos escape - run for your life" idea. I really liked JW but it was still basically like the others except for the fight.

The Deadman

06-17-2017, 07:29 PM

Trevorrow Talks Ian Malcolm’s Return in Jurassic World Sequel
Read more at http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/859875-trevorrow-talks-ian-malcolms-return-in-jurassic-world-sequel#tOuwFreUYrIt0lkC.99

TigerClaw

06-20-2017, 10:07 PM

Jurassic World 2 is being described as a Spanish Horror Thriller with Dinosaurs.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/jurassic-world-2-will-be-a-spanish-horror-thriller/1100-6451050/

"It is by far my favorite creative collaboration that I've ever been involved in," he said, via Collider. "Bayona is a completely different kind of filmmaker and thinker than I am, yet we do have a lot of things in common. I was able to craft something specifically for another filmmaker that I admire. I built a Spanish horror thriller with dinosaurs in it that I probably wouldn't have built for myself."

Trevorrow went on to state that he thought Jurassic World 2 would be even better than the first one. "I think that it's gonna be a better movie. I just do," he said. "It's just deeper, it's more character-based, it definitely leans into suspense especially in the second half.

"I've started to see stuff come together and it's just insane. I apologize to those who thought they were never gonna need to see another Jurassic World movie, because I think J.A. Bayona is gonna prove [them] wrong."

snake

06-20-2017, 10:31 PM

Spanish horror? What?

DestronMirage22

06-20-2017, 11:20 PM

Jurassic World 2=Spanish Horror??? :-?
Uh.....ok.
Sooo weird

Cure

06-20-2017, 11:46 PM

The only Spanish horror I can think of is the REC joints.

Machias Banshee

06-21-2017, 09:52 PM

...I hope it's not going to be like a Spanish soap opera... :ohwell:

DestronMirage22

06-22-2017, 12:28 AM

...I hope it's not going to be like a Spanish soap opera... :ohwell:

I can see it now:

JURASSIC WORLD 2
The Telenovela

:lol:

NinjaPug

06-22-2017, 09:14 AM

There are rumors that something about this movie is being released today. I doubt it's any real footage. Probably the title.

Update: yep - title and teaser poster

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DC7wazmXkAAMf9L?format=jpg

sdp

06-22-2017, 10:16 AM

Terrible title and poster. The poster rehashes the Lost World's' broken logo and has the ugly all silver JW one. The title just doesn't fit JP, I think a JW 2 was a better title. And the tagline is only a quote from the first movie. Meh.

They waited that long for such a crappy title?

Powder

06-22-2017, 04:43 PM

I am ready for this movie. Need me some dinosaur action.

NinjaPug

12-03-2017, 06:58 PM

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Redeemer

12-03-2017, 07:32 PM

Finally after all this time, wondering wondering who we are..... I mean movie wondering about this movie :lol: bad TMNT 2 pun

TigerClaw

12-03-2017, 10:46 PM

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Here is Chris Pratt talking about it.

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sdp

12-03-2017, 11:07 PM

Hyped as hell and only movie I'm really looking forward to in full nerd mode.

TigerClaw

12-04-2017, 06:05 AM

Metalwolf

12-04-2017, 09:12 AM

It looks like the park the dinosaurs are in will be destroyed by a severe volcanic eruption. I'm betting they'll have to move them to a secure place on the mainland, holding them there until they can either repair the damage to the old park, or set them up in a new one.

I am wondering if a Styracosaurus (the spiky frilled ceratopsian whose skull the girl is standing in front of) is going to be the 'villain' for this movie? They've already done the 'meat-eaters as final bosses' thing in the last 4 movies, having a supposed herbivore wreck things would be a nice change.

Reason I say this is because that pretty scene also gives me a slightly ominous feel, like there is something 'dangerous' about this creature. Like maybe they (re)created this thing and find out it's species tended to be as thoroughly nasty as some of the feared carnivores? They do seem to bring back these long dead animals almost recklessly and only find out later (the hard way too) how little they know about them. I mention this as right now there is a theory going around that some of the ceratopsians might have been omnivorous instead of strict herbivores, and so somebody may find out that these 'gentle giants' are not so gentle.

Raptor86

12-04-2017, 09:47 AM

Judging from the little tease, there running from some volcano eruption on the island the Dinosaurs are living at, I wonder if the story revolves around some evacuation effort for the Dinosaurs? cause you see a T-Rex looking like it was tranquilized in a semi truck on the video with Chris Pratt.

From the merchandising and the rumours, it seems the evacuation of the dinosaurs from the vulcano explosion is going to be a major plot point.

TigerClaw

12-04-2017, 03:57 PM

From the merchandising and the rumours, it seems the evacuation of the dinosaurs from the vulcano explosion is going to be a major plot point.
Maybe that's what the title "Fallen Kingdom" is talking about, Isla Nublar the island in which Jurassic Park and then Jurassic World had there parks, is on that island, and it seems like a volcano has erupted on that island, so I would guess that the Jurassic World crew is trying to evaculate all the Dinosaur off that island, but Owen Grady whose played by Chris Pratt, is probably stuck somewhere on that island, when all hell breaks lose during a volcanic eruption.

From what I heard, There are two new Dinosaurs, a new hybrid called the Indorapter, and a new Dinosaur called the Baryonyx

Raptor86

12-05-2017, 02:35 AM

Yes, the Indoraptor is the new hybrid, basically a smaller version of the Indominus rex.
Baryonyx seems to be the dino in the second teaser trailer, but it doesn't look very accurate. Oh, well...

TigerClaw

12-05-2017, 12:51 PM

Here's your first look at the Baryonyx and Baby Blue
http://jurassicoutpost.com/first-look-baryonx-stares-members-dinosaur-protection-group-new-fallen-kingdom-screenshot/
http://ew.com/movies/2017/12/05/jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-first-look/

Baryonyx
http://jurassicoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/BaryHQ.jpg

Baby Blue
http://jurassicoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/24825854_10215404447692220_1906641652_o.jpg

Plus some details about the sequel, and it also confirms, that the movie is about getting the Dinosaurs off the island cause of an active volcano.

Disaster-movie fans should have no problem falling in lava with the fifth Jurassic Park adventure, Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (out June 22). Directed by J.A. Bayona (The Impossible), the sequel — set several years after 2015’s billion-dollar smash Jurassic World — concerns a volcano on Isla Nublar that threatens the dinosaurs that had overrun the park at the end of the previous film. Who has the best shot at preventing the prehistoric beasts from becoming extinct (again)? That would be Chris Pratt’s dino trainer Owen Grady and Bryce Dallas Howard’s former park manager Claire Dearing.

“Claire’s founded an organization, Dinosaur Protection Group, and they’re finding a way to get these dinosaurs off the island,” Howard says. “She reaches out to Owen Grady to let him know this is happening.” Hmm. “Reaches out”? It seems Howard and Pratt’s burgeoning relationship now falls under the heading of “It’s complicated.” “When you see them at the beginning of this story, you get caught up as to what’s going on,” Howard says. “But it’s not what you would necessarily expect.”

Daniella Pineda (TBS’ The Detour) and Justice Smith (Paper Towns) play new characters involved with Claire’s dino-saving group, and Jeff Goldblum returns as mathematician Dr. Ian Malcolm for the first time in 20 years. “I had to overcome the impact of being in front of Ian Malcolm,” Bayona says. “After so many years, Jeff Goldblum was in front of a camera again talking about dinosaurs!” Like Mother Nature, Hollywood reboots always find a way.

TigerClaw

12-06-2017, 01:07 PM

Here's the 1st Featurette on the sequel, since the trailer will debut tomorrow, you can see some scenes in here, including Jeff Goldblum's Dr. Ian Malcolm.

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sdp

12-06-2017, 01:44 PM

BartAllen

12-06-2017, 02:05 PM

The trailer looks good. I'm looking forward to seeing this in the theater.

tmntfannumerouno

12-06-2017, 02:11 PM

As a kid I loved JP and wanted JP2 so badly, I always expected it to be like the Series II figures of the toyline and the JP// Chaos Effect SNES game which dealt with trying to take control back of the park and recovering the embryos in the shaving cream but that never happened.

If you haven't already I suggest reading some of the old comics specifically the raptors attack arc which takes place right after the first movie

TigerClaw

12-06-2017, 02:13 PM

We've seen so much footage now that I doubt the trailer will be that impressive anymore.

This seems to be like the Jurassic Park 2 I wanted as a kid, the heroes return and have an adventure in the Park.

I just hope the reason why Claire would return is good, Owen is easy since he liked the dinosaurs, but I'd think Claire would be traumatized.
According to the plot from an EW article, in the sequel Claire started the Dinosaur Protection Group, there's a volcano that erupts, and they are trying to get all the Dinosaurs off the Island before they too become extinct, its kinda like The Lost World, but the complete opposite of it.

Andrew NDB

12-06-2017, 02:24 PM

According to the plot from an EW article, in the sequel Claire started the Dinosaur Protection Group, there's a volcano that erupts, and they are trying to get all the Dinosaurs off the Island before they too become extinct, its kinda like The Lost World, but the complete opposite of it.

Huh. This doesn't sound remotely like the direction the last one was setting up. That's a good thing, though.

sdp

12-06-2017, 07:36 PM

Edit: Your resident Jurassic Fan just won an invite to see an exclusive showing of the trailer at a cinema and apparently also to the premier of the movie later in 2018!!!

According to the plot from an EW article, in the sequel Claire started the Dinosaur Protection Group, there's a volcano that erupts, and they are trying to get all the Dinosaurs off the Island before they too become extinct, its kinda like The Lost World, but the complete opposite of it.
I'm a big JP EU nerd so yes I'm familiar, not crazy for the raptor series but the return to JP was top notch !
Recommended!

Huh. This doesn't sound remotely like the direction the last one was setting up. That's a good thing, though.

Yes, they confirmed many times that Jurassic War wasn't happening, which the whole JP community including me are grateful.

This one will be more of a horror film and thriller, only action part will be the eruption.

TigerClaw

12-07-2017, 09:34 AM

The Trailer debuts tonight, here's one last 15 second sneak peak.

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how much you willing to bet, that Blue will make the ultimate sacrifice saving Owen, and then Owen ends up caring for and training Baby Blue, since he's the raptor expert.

If this movie does well, and they do a 3rd Jurassic World, we will probably see Baby Blue all grown up.

The Deadman

12-07-2017, 12:01 PM

The scene with Baby Blue is a flashback.

TigerClaw

12-07-2017, 12:29 PM

The scene with Baby Blue is a flashback.
Are you sure? where do you know this from?

The Deadman

12-07-2017, 12:39 PM

Are you sure? where do you know this from?

https://twitter.com/jurassicworld/status/938758765020569601

NinjaPug

12-07-2017, 12:44 PM

Are you sure? where do you know this from?

Probably from the clip you posted.

TigerClaw

12-07-2017, 12:46 PM

https://twitter.com/jurassicworld/status/938758765020569601
I don't know if that's a flashback, I think it could just be Owen documenting his experience with a new Blue.

The Deadman

12-07-2017, 12:58 PM

I don't know if that's a flashback, I think it could just be Owen documenting his experience with a new Blue.

That clip literally shows him remembering what it was like interacting with a dinosaur for the first time, with the voiceover saying "do you remember the first time you saw a dinosaur?"

TigerClaw

12-07-2017, 01:02 PM

That clip literally shows him remembering what it was like interacting with a dinosaur for the first time, with the voiceover saying "do you remember the first time you saw a dinosaur?"
keep in mind trailers often mix clips around, the ""do you remember the first time you saw a dinosaur?" could be at someone else, there's a little girl in this movie, perhaps she's being told that.

sdp

12-07-2017, 01:31 PM

The trailer will likely debut around 6 CST, at least that's the time my special screening of the trailer will begin, I'm psyched, don't normally enter contests but said what the heck and just happened to win. My favorite movie franchise and I get to go to their special event!

I hope that flashback is video footage, JP has never used flashbacks in any of its movies.

Andrew NDB

12-07-2017, 01:35 PM

I wonder what's been going on on Isla Sorna all of this time.

TigerClaw

12-07-2017, 01:46 PM

I wonder what's been going on on Isla Sorna all of this time.
Maybe we will get to see that Island in this one, if Isla Nublar is ravaged by a volcanic eruption, perhaps Isla Sorna isnt on top of a volcano this time.

sdp

12-07-2017, 01:59 PM

I'm sure Sorna will get a throw away line in the movie but I doubt it'll be referenced much. Now that Nublar is being destroyed in JW// that means maybe for /// we can return to Sorna. 3 movies in Nublar and 3 in Sorna would be poetic.

TigerClaw

12-07-2017, 02:32 PM

Andrew NDB

12-07-2017, 02:37 PM

It would kind of suck if Jurassic Park 6 was just, "Now, back to the other island!"

At some point they need to get the movies out of these same two islands. Which isn't to say that the direction things were apparently going after Jurassic World would have been great to see. I can't even imagine how that would have gone. Chris Pratt traveling around the world, being given covert missions from the government to stop some kind of dinosaur arms race in third world countries? It seems like that was the idea.

The Deadman

12-07-2017, 03:08 PM

I've seen people speculate that there's probably gonna be bit of a balance between being on the island and then on the mainland in this one.

TigerClaw

12-07-2017, 03:12 PM

I've seen people speculate that there's probably gonna be bit of a balance between being on the island and then on the mainland in this one.
But where on the mainland, cause they don't want a repeat of what happened in San Diego years ago.

The Deadman

12-07-2017, 03:30 PM

But where on the mainland, cause they don't want a repeat of what happened in San Diego years ago.

They could have the animals go ballistic in the Amazon, or another jungle. Eventually the whole "being confined to an island" storyline will get bland.

sdp

12-07-2017, 04:37 PM

This movie is not going to take place only in Nublar, that island is being destroyed halfway, they're going to the mainline for the last half of the film, likely in a claustrophobic setting.

The Dinosaur arms race was confirmed that it wasn't the idea for the JW Trilogy, just the set up for JW. So yeah, we have a "trilogy" planned out but it's also not a "drag a story into 3 movies", they were done fairly stand alone at that from what we're seeing.

Getting ready to go to a premier, kinda dorky to go to a premier for a trailer but what the heck should be fun, I'll be tweeting the experience if everyone is interested.

Andrew NDB

12-07-2017, 04:40 PM

The Dinosaur arms race was confirmed that it wasn't the idea for the JW Trilogy, just the set up for JW. So yeah, we have a "trilogy" planned out but it's also not a "drag a story into 3 movies", they were done fairly stand alone at that from what we're seeing.

Are you sure? Didn't the ending of JW have that Asian doctor guy literally about to sell dino embryos to the highest bidder or something? I thought I remember a scene like that. There is no reason to have that scene if that wasn't intended to pay off in a subsequent movie.

sdp

12-07-2017, 04:58 PM

Colin Trevorrow who directed and is in charge of the trilogy's story said Jurassic War wasn't happening.

Yes you're totally correct about that set up that they hint at, that's why all the Jurassic community was angry after JW but whether it wasn't the original plan and just a red herring, a left over from the original JP4 script which involved hybrid human dinosaurs or Trevorrow felt the backlash from the fandom that doesn't seem to be the plan for the trilogy anymore, so it seems we dodged a bullet.

The payoff of that scene can still be that Dr. Wu is working with someone else in a lab and the dinosaurs escape in that lab and that's it.

and I'm off to go see a 2 minute teaser to a fancy cinema with the works :lol:

Powder

12-07-2017, 05:02 PM

I guess I must be one of the only people who thought that would've made for a cool flick. :tlol:

Andrew NDB

12-07-2017, 05:06 PM

I guess I must be one of the only people who thought that would've made for a cool flick. :tlol:

It would've been interesting... eh... trying to see them make it work?

In all fairness, there's really only so many stories you can tell about Jurassic Park. There's a park, it closed down. What about the backup park? What about we reopen the first park?

Pretty soon you have to look at hybrids and "What if... China had a Jurassic Park?" or military/government stuff. What else can you do with it?

Allio

12-07-2017, 06:42 PM

honestly I feel like you have to destroy the park before we get to the world.

The Deadman

12-07-2017, 07:46 PM

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TigerClaw

12-07-2017, 08:04 PM

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Great trailer, now we know the whole thing about Baby Blue.

ProphetofGanja

12-07-2017, 08:06 PM

Looks pretty good so far

Powder

12-07-2017, 08:13 PM

Awesome, can't wait.

Krutch

12-07-2017, 08:25 PM

Cool trailer I guess.
That better have been the first 30 minutes and not the entire plot, though.

TigerClaw

12-07-2017, 09:01 PM

Fallen Kingdom brings up the interesting question about animal rights regarding the Dinosaurs.

RaphaelinSTL

12-07-2017, 09:18 PM

Eh.

This trailer just further makes me feel like the series should’ve ended after Jurassic World ... that certainly wasn’t happening after all the money JW made, but yikes. This story sounds like a stretch.

Andrew NDB

12-07-2017, 09:53 PM

All of the sequels have been a stretch. Even JW. No way would anyone insure another dinosaur park after the first three movies.

ProphetofGanja

12-07-2017, 10:01 PM

IndigoErth

12-07-2017, 10:10 PM

lol Was just going to comment about how these people in these films will appanetly just never figure out that these parks are a terrible idea. :tlol: Half our visitors were eaten... Hey, lets try it again!

Though with the first 'World' failing in a violent way, as usual, good luck getting new visitors.

Allio

12-07-2017, 10:13 PM

All of the sequels have been a stretch. Even JW. No way would anyone insure another dinosaur park after the first three movies.

Yeah, that's actually the most unrealistic part of this series; that the dinosaur safari theme park model would be tried again

That's why I always seen that World was only a sequel to Park, making park 2 and 3 non-canon.

If we just assume that the only dinosaur incident was the first movie, then it wouldn't be that hard as it was a self contained incident. Throw enough money and everything will be silenced.

TigerClaw

12-07-2017, 10:22 PM

That's why I always seen that World was only a sequel to Park, making park 2 and 3 non-canon.

If we just assume that the only dinosaur incident was the first movie, then it wouldn't be that hard as it was a self contained incident. Throw enough money and everything will be silenced.
The JP2 and JP3 are canon.

Allio

12-07-2017, 10:24 PM

was that ever stated in World? Every incident so far has just referred Park 1. I mean I'm sure it's all still canon, but I doubt they will refer to them.

Andrew NDB

12-08-2017, 12:10 AM

Pretty sure we'll get some kind of reference to at least part 2, even if it's just Goldblum making some reference to his own "dealings" (plural) with all of that. Nothing really happened worth referencing in 3 unless Sam Neill ever comes back.

sdp

12-08-2017, 01:00 AM

Went to the premier, got to see Jurassic World again in theaters with free popcorn/soda, a free Fallen Kingdom shirt/stickers and tickets to go to the premier of Fallen Kingdom. By the time I got time to tweet about the trailer everyone had already seen it but who cares, I had an amazing experience. Movie looks great.

Cool trailer I guess.
That better have been the first 30 minutes and not the entire plot, though.

Based on rumors/leaks it's only the beginning and then jumps down to a smaller set for the rest of the movie being more of a horror film than an action one so don't worry.

All of the sequels have been a stretch. Even JW. No way would anyone insure another dinosaur park after the first three movies.

Yes, all sequels are unnecessary but they're all fun to me, no sequel is bad even if they can't reach the greatness or message the original had.

was that ever stated in World? Every incident so far has just referred Park 1. I mean I'm sure it's all still canon, but I doubt they will refer to them.

A lot of the tie-in material and viral marketing sites not only mentioned the sequels but helped explain what happened in the gap years and what lead to the events of JW. For example Hoskins the military guy from JW was the one in charge of getting rid of the pteradons that escape at the end of JP///.

Pretty sure we'll get some kind of reference to at least part 2, even if it's just Goldblum making some reference to his own "dealings" (plural) with all of that. Nothing really happened worth referencing in 3 unless Sam Neill ever comes back.

Yes, only in EU material will we get lengthy explanations but the director has said many times the sequels are all canon, I'm sure they'll throw in a line of "Isla Sorna" or "The other dinosaur island" but won't go into details.

JW already had a /// reference when the T-Rex destroys the Spinosaurus bones.

pictures of my swag:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQe9ysBVQAIN3Kz.jpg

Metalwolf

12-08-2017, 08:54 AM

Yeah, that's actually the most unrealistic part of this series; that the dinosaur safari theme park model would be tried againI'm betting we'll have a 'War' trilogy after 'World,' probably going to be military themed. I doubt they will stay in the parks forever, because the audience would get bored of it. The military plot seems to be slowly showing signs of setting up, it's not big now in this trilogy but you already have people talking about selling embryos and seeing if the raptors could be trained.

TigerClaw

12-08-2017, 12:16 PM

Here's the official synopsis that reveals more about the plot, and its not just about the rescue operation.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/jurassic_park/new-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-synopsis-teases-an-earth-shattering-conspiracy-a156168
It’s been four years since theme park and luxury resort Jurassic World was destroyed by dinosaurs out of containment. Isla Nublar now sits abandoned by humans while the surviving dinosaurs fend for themselves in the jungles.

When the island’s dormant volcano begins roaring to life, Owen (Chris Pratt) and Claire (Bryce Dallas Howard) mount a campaign to rescue the remaining dinosaurs from this extinction-level event. Owen is driven to find Blue, his lead raptor who’s still missing in the wild, and Claire has grown a respect for these creatures she now makes her mission. Arriving on the unstable island as lava begins raining down, their expedition uncovers a conspiracy that could return our entire planet to a perilous order not seen since prehistoric times.

With all of the wonder, adventure and thrills synonymous with one of the most popular and successful series in cinema history, this all-new motion-picture event sees the return of favorite characters and dinosaurs—along with new breeds more awe-inspiring and terrifying than ever before. Welcome to Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom.

Andrew NDB

12-08-2017, 12:17 PM

How are they going to transport the brontasauruses?

TigerClaw

12-08-2017, 12:53 PM

The Trailer does not spoil the final act of the movie according to the producer, everything from the trailer is only from the 1st 57 minutes of the movie, the movie will no doubt be 2 hours and something, so that's good to know.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/jurassic_park/dont-worry-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdoms-trailer-doesnt-spoil-the-final-act-a156174
https://twitter.com/colintrevorrow/status/939076156585922561

The Deadman

12-08-2017, 04:50 PM

The website tie in to the film is now up, similar to the Masrani one from the previous film

http://www.dinosaurprotectiongroup.com/success.html

sdp

12-10-2017, 11:33 AM

I loved the trailer, and I don't think it's because I'm an obvious JP fanboy, that makes me more critical of what I see, I was extremely skeptical of "trained" raptors in JW.

A lot of people in the JP fandom didn't like the trailer, but that's mostly because they say it doesn't convey the mood the film has been promised to be, but that's also because they don't want to spoil the second half of the movie. JW2 is meant to be more of a thriller/horror movie than anything else, the big set pieces are only the first half, it'll be a more personal claustrophobic movie for the second half.

I still can't believe I won that contest and not only had the awesome experience of going to the trailer event but to also have an invitation to the premier safe for when it comes out in June is any fanboy's dream. Jurassic Park is my favorite film franchise and I'm as excited as you can get to see this movie.

ProactiveMan

12-11-2017, 10:53 PM

So, John Hammond built the park on an active volcano eh? Savvy.

I cannot imagine why they would want to transport the Dinosaurs off that island. Legally speaking, they're a total liability so their demise would be best case scenario, and they're not even real dinosaurs, so the conservationist angle doesn't make sense.

oldmanwinters

12-11-2017, 10:54 PM

So, John Hammond built the park on an active volcano eh? Savvy.

"Spared no expense!"

Andrew NDB

12-11-2017, 11:05 PM

I cannot imagine why they would want to transport the Dinosaurs off that island. Legally speaking, they're a total liability

Yeah, it wants to be "Saving Private Ryan" with dinosaurs, I think. Doesn't quite work.

Andrew NDB

12-13-2017, 12:16 AM

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/jurassic_park/rumor-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-may-also-feature-the-return-of-sam-neill-as-dr-alan-grant-a156308

Looks like Jurassic Park 5 has Sam Neill coming back in some manner. Maybe.

CyberCubed

12-13-2017, 12:56 AM

Allio

12-13-2017, 06:36 AM

who ever said they weren't in continuity?

Andrew NDB

12-13-2017, 11:04 AM

who ever said they weren't in continuity?

Nobody did.

The Deadman

12-13-2017, 05:19 PM

I thought these new movies weren't in continuity with the old ones....but eh...who cares, right? Might as well make a loose continuity between everything to appeal to nostalgia to 30+ year old adults.

You must have an age fetish....everything you write has to revolve around how old something is.

CyberCubed

12-13-2017, 06:53 PM

I just wouldn't imagine a movie from 2018 to be in continuity with a movie from 1993. That's like an over 25 year gap.

sdp

12-13-2017, 06:55 PM

But it is, hard Canon on screen. No retcons no nothing.

CyberCubed

12-13-2017, 07:09 PM

So nobody remembers dinosaurs went rampant?

Shark_Blade

12-13-2017, 07:13 PM

So nobody remembers dinosaurs went rampant?

That's like saying "so nobody remembers World War II?"

sdp

12-13-2017, 07:15 PM

First incident was covered up, second incident bankrupted INGen and lead to Masrani acquiring it and trying to start the park and no incidents for 10 years. JP/// was only a small story of trasspassing so it wasn't anyone's fault they went to a dangerous island that was off limits. So yeah only the San Diego incident was the big thing but Masrani ntook care of it after INgen goes bankrupt and it takes years to rebuild the trust and to open the park.

The park was always under the eye of people for an incident they even mention this in JW "we will never open again " if they evacuate the guests. Which is why they try to play it cool which backfired. But they had cleaned up Isla Nublar and had no incidents for ten years which is why they were confident as we're people.

The Deadman

02-04-2018, 05:38 PM

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sdp

02-04-2018, 06:04 PM

Not feeling this new trailer. I also hated JWs second trailer though so I guess I'm a first trailer kind of guy.

The Deadman

04-13-2018, 06:08 PM

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sdp

04-13-2018, 06:54 PM

I don't know if I want to watch another trailer, I feel I've seen enough already. Can't wait for the movie.

Edit: Yes, I will be skipping this final trailer, no need to see more footage, I feel I've already seen enough. I can normally avoid spoilers easily but counting I follow too many people in the Jurassic community I feel I'm going to see gifs of the trailer whether I like it or not....

Has anyone seen the toys that Mattel made for Fallen Kingdom? They've really knocked it out of the park. This is why competition is good, Hasbro was making awful crap and now Mattel came to save the day. For Power Rangers Bandai was making crap and now Hasbro will likely save the day. Companies stop trying if they have no reason to.

The Deadman

04-18-2018, 10:21 AM

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Vicky82

06-06-2018, 02:43 PM

I saw this today, not as good as the last movie.

As this movie doesn't come out until the 22nd in the US, I won't post spoilers.

TigerClaw

06-06-2018, 04:59 PM

Its got a 69% on Rotten Tomatoes. So its looking promising.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/jurassic_world_fallen_kingdom

CyberCubed

06-06-2018, 05:21 PM

Anything below roughly a 75% on rotten generally isn't worth paying much money for.

NinjaPug

06-06-2018, 06:23 PM

Its got a 69% on Rotten Tomatoes. So its looking promising.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/jurassic_world_fallen_kingdom

Does RT only go up to 70 now?

TigerClaw

06-06-2018, 08:01 PM

Does RT only go up to 70 now?
It could go higher. But that really depends when more reviews come up. Right now those are the reviews that came out from a recent screening. Once the movie officially releases. Then ore reviews will come out. So it could go higher or lower.

CyberCubed

06-06-2018, 08:45 PM

lol :roll:

sdp

06-06-2018, 09:00 PM

I hate this RT culture, first of all the movie is not rotten, it's Fresh, all the % in RT means that the majority of the critics liked it, it's not taking an average of the reviews like MetaCritic does.

I"m avoid reading reviews since I prefer to go with the least amount of information, I'm going to the premier in my country which is tomorrow, I'm so glad I didn't have to wait until the 21st when it officially releases, it'd be hard avoiding the spoilers. I'll be sure to post my thoughts here.

Redeemer

06-06-2018, 10:36 PM

I saw this today, not as good as the last movie.

As this movie doesn't come out until the 22nd in the US, I won't post spoilers.

Could you at least tell us if it was better, worse or about the same as the last movie then???? :lol:

Vicky82

06-07-2018, 02:17 AM

Could you at least tell us if it was better, worse or about the same as the last movie then???? :lol:

I did, I said it's not as good as the last movie. So Jurassic World 1 is a lot better. Actually Jurassic Park 2 is better than this movie.

I list them best to worse

1. Jurassic Park
2. Jurassic World
3. Jurassic Park 2
4. Jurassic World 2
5. Jurassic Park 3

ZariusTwo

06-07-2018, 03:05 AM

Yeah, it's not bad, but does have a couple of issues

The villain and the twist with the kid are major weak areas I feel...I think the clone twist could have been given better focus, hell maybe she could have some dormant reptilian powers or something, she really doesn't do much except set up James Cromwell's death later on, and after that it turns into a drinking game where you take a shot every time she screams. She finally does something at the end of the movie to set up the third, which initially I had an issue with, but actually came to appreciate how poetic it was

Jeff Goldbum's only in this for about a few minutes, showing up at the beginning and end of the movie. His scenes in the trailer are basically all you get of him here, and hell the trailer spoils part of the ending of the movie because his speech there is the final speech in the movie.

Refractive Reflections

06-07-2018, 03:49 AM

Why does it seem like these Jurassic World films are plot paralleling the first 2 movies (at least based on the "Fallen Kingdom" trailer so far)? Or is it just me?

Jurassic Park & Jurassic World both have the main plot of a tourist amusement park that goes to chaos as the dinosaurs are unleashed.

The Lost World & Fallen Kingdom both seem to have the main plot of scavenging the business remains of the fallen company; in handling, researching, and capturing dinosaurs that are now roaming on the abandon island, while other businesses try to take advantage of the failed tourist park business and trying to expand the dinosaur-exposure experience to a worldwide magnitude.

sdp

06-08-2018, 01:34 AM

I just watched it and I liked it. The movie is tonally totally different than what most are expecting I'm guessing (then again I didn't watch the tv spots or final trailer so maybe that's already spoiled?).

The movie is not perfect but there's enough there to make it a cool sequel, especially since it does something new with the franchise as it's kind of a horror esque movie. I wrote more about my experience at the premiere on my site (https://miscrave.com/articles/jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-latam-premiere/).

sdp

06-08-2018, 08:03 PM

Well I wrote my spoiler filled problems with the movie here (https://miscrave.com/articles/jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom/). I want to actively discuss spoilers now but I can't since most of my circles haven't seen it yet.

I don't like what this movie sets up for JW3 but I did love the horror like story of this one.

NinjaPug

06-24-2018, 01:21 PM

I liked the opening scene. That concludes my list of positives for this movie.

The script was a mess. They need to get Trevorrow away from these scripts. Thank goodness Trevorrow got fired from Episode IX.

Shark_Blade

06-24-2018, 02:48 PM

I dislike that annoying Franklin character, everytime the camera focuses on his face I just... ugh.

Andrew NDB

06-24-2018, 04:54 PM

TigerClaw

06-24-2018, 06:30 PM

I liked Fallen Kingdom. It sets up the 3rd movie in an interesting way. Plus there's even a little post credit scene. Which is a first for this franchise.

Andrew NDB

06-24-2018, 08:25 PM

I liked Fallen Kingdom. It sets up the 3rd movie in an interesting way. Plus there's even a little post credit scene. Which is a first for this franchise.

There is? What is it? I didn't stay.

I didn't get what they were going with tonally with the ending. Is it... "Yay! T-Rex and velociraptor are gonna eat people in cities now!"? Because that's pretty sadistic. Is it... "The dinosaurs win! They're reclaiming their empire!" Because they won't. Or what? It doesn't make any sense and I wasn't sure what the movie wanted me to feel. There wasn't THAT many dinosaurs released... there was like 30, tops, in that room. Surely a week with the National Guard and Army combing the area would clean up (i.e., completely murder) all dinos roaming around.

oldmanwinters

06-24-2018, 08:27 PM

There is? What is it? I didn't stay.

I didn't get what they were going with tonally with the ending. Is it... "Yay! T-Rex and velociraptor are gonna eat people in cities now!"? Because that's pretty sadistic. Is it... "The dinosaurs win! They're reclaiming their empire!" Because they won't. Or what? It doesn't make any sense and I wasn't sure what the movie wanted me to feel. There wasn't THAT many dinosaurs released... there was like 30, tops, in that room. Surely a week with the National Guard and Army combing the area would clean up (i.e., completely murder) all dinos roaming around.

Maybe they were homaging the final scene from this American "classic":
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ranger_scout

06-24-2018, 09:58 PM

It was good, but I just wish that the film had better story.

I did like how this movie set up the plot for the next film. People are now living in a world where dinosaurs are roaming free, especially in the United States. Next time we will see if man or dinosaur really is the dominant species.

Andrew NDB

06-25-2018, 12:13 AM

I did like how this movie set up the plot for the next film. People are now living in a world where dinosaurs are roaming free, especially in the United States. Next time we will see if man or dinosaur really is the dominant species.

Yeah, all 30 of them. Wow, so suspenseful. I bet they'll totally win against the Army, Air Force, Marines, National Guard, and tactical missiles.

There's not even that many really dangerous ones, is there? There's just the one old, beat-up T-rex somewhere and the one velociraptor... who's mostly tame.

sdp

06-25-2018, 11:11 AM

Saw Jurassic Park 5. Better than 4... but not very good. Seems really desperate in grasping at straws to take things in this series any place new. It really doesn't have much to say. The "Indoraptor"? Government shadow agencies bidding small amounts of money for dinosaurs for... war? A cloned girl inserted to make us see that "we're the same as the dinosaurs"? I don't get the hybrid stuff, and it's two movies in a row now... and the last three now have been trying to "out T-rex the T-rex"... stop that. Best moment was the brontosaurus on the dock as they left. The rest is kind of a sub-end-of-"Lost World" affair. I don't think any movies after this will be even this compelling... I guess, they're just supposed to go around and try and collect them now, Pokemon-style? That doesn't seem very interesting.

All of those things that you mention whether you like it or not are very Chrichton-esque. This movie would've definitely gotten his blessing more than any of the previous sequels. A few of those things are hinted at in the two books.

They told us this would be the last movie with a hybrid. I don't think it feels like The Lost World, I would've liked it if Fallen Kingdom was more like TLW and it took place mostly on the island. Catching dinosaurs Pokemon style won't happen but it would be awesome.

It's a lot like Westworld (which makes sense... Westworld was Crichton's Jurassic Park warmup)... the whole thing is the robot revolt. Jurassic Park, the longer you can have the park believably and functionally open, the more mileage you can get. "Jurassic World" presented another chance, but they just repeated the exact same story as the first movie except inserting a lame FAKE dinosaur. The longer you spend building that up and living in that (whether it's the park in the JP movies or Westworld in Westworld), the more you can get out of that.

Better writing, the last Jurassic World could have had crazy stuff confined to an isolated incident paid off by rich investors... leaving future movies to continue delving into that pot. But it left things in exactly the same place as the end of the first movie. To be fair, I'm not sure what else this new movie could have done.

I get why they destroyed the park again in JW, it's what audiences expect, and they needed a big umph, after all they didn't know JW was going to do so well. Of course those ideas would've been great, I also would've loved a movie that had to deal with the clean up of Isla Nublar, or the transporting of dinosaurs from Sorna to Nublar. Isolated instances while the park is running would've been cool as well. Again, FK would've been cool for me if it had all just taken place in the Island and the volcano being the final act and finally fixing the mistakes of TLW.

There is? What is it? I didn't stay.

I didn't get what they were going with tonally with the ending. Is it... "Yay! T-Rex and velociraptor are gonna eat people in cities now!"? Because that's pretty sadistic. Is it... "The dinosaurs win! They're reclaiming their empire!" Because they won't. Or what? It doesn't make any sense and I wasn't sure what the movie wanted me to feel. There wasn't THAT many dinosaurs released... there was like 30, tops, in that room. Surely a week with the National Guard and Army combing the area would clean up (i.e., completely murder) all dinos roaming around.

The post credits scene is very short and should've been included in the final montage where it fit better instead of randomly separating it. Nothing cool really:
pteradons flying in Las Vegas, that's it.

Yeah, all 30 of them. Wow, so suspenseful. I bet they'll totally win against the Army, Air Force, Marines, National Guard, and tactical missiles.

There's not even that many really dangerous ones, is there? There's just the one old, beat-up T-rex somewhere and the one velociraptor... who's mostly tame.

I think that would be awesome, actually. They could make a thriller of a dinosaur in a small town (this happened in the novel but is just a short scene)

But it's not just 30 dinosaurs, there were a lot more, but remember they also sold the dinosaurs in the auction, now other companies can clone dinosaurs. Since the first movie Trevorrow told us where the trilogy was heading with really blatant "hints". That the title "Jurassic World" had another meaning than just the name of the park. So yeah by JW3 which will likely take place 3 years i the future (every JP film takes place 3 years after the previous except JW which is 10) So the whole world will be populated by dinosaurs, hence JW. I'm not a fan but whatever.

It was good, but I just wish that the film had better story.

I did like how this movie set up the plot for the next film. People are now living in a world where dinosaurs are roaming free, especially in the United States. Next time we will see if man or dinosaur really is the dominant species.
I liked Fallen Kingdom. It sets up the 3rd movie in an interesting way. Plus there's even a little post credit scene. Which is a first for this franchise.

I'm not a fan of where the series is going frankly, I like JW2 but the ending gives a set up for a JW3 I'm not a fan of.

As far as the secret ending, ugh. They don't belong in the Jurassic franchise, it wasn't even good, it should've been included with the final montage.

Andrew NDB

06-25-2018, 11:28 AM

But it's not just 30 dinosaurs, there were a lot more,

Not that we saw. When the smoke was pouring in, we saw all the dinos converging in the big room in front of the gate... and it was 30, tops. Probably less.

but remember they also sold the dinosaurs in the auction,

None of the buyers could have possibly collected. They had to rush out of the room when the indoraptor attack happened, remember?

now other companies can clone dinosaurs.

Which wouldn't have anything to do with the dinos released.

sdp

06-25-2018, 11:40 AM

I mean those are points are true, but it doesn't matter it's basically as good as confirmed and they'll just explain it in their viral marketing website for the next movie how 30 dinos became 1000s. Jurassic Park 6 WILL be humans living with dinosaurs. They've been setting it up for many movies now, JP///'s ending with the pteradons flying off, the JP Novels by Chrichton not only hint this but starts the book with a dinosaur in South America. JW interviews hinted at it and now JW:FK finally did it.

"There is no going back"

I'm not a fan of it, I hate it. I hope I'm wrong and we do get them hunting 30 dinosaurs int he next movie but they've basically confirmed that was the end of the trilogy. At least they confirmed Jurassic War was not happening (which weaponized dinos are also set up in both JW movies)

NinjaPug

06-25-2018, 11:59 AM

I'm just upset they didn't address the biggest cliffhanger from JW1:

DID THE PARENTS GET DIVORCED?

Andrew NDB

06-25-2018, 12:01 PM

I wish they'd bring the kids back as adults. How much more invested would we have been in the central villain of this movie if he was a mid-30s version of the boy from the first couple of movies, now a jaded corporate suit?

sdp

06-25-2018, 12:17 PM

Yeah, instead of that generic villain whose name I can't remember or even a relative of Peter Ludlow of TLW (since he dies in TLW), why get all these new characters when there's established ones? Even Lockwood who I liked and the retcon kinda worked but Tim or Lex (the kids) would've been better.

Tim and Lex did come back in the 2010 IDW comic JP Redemption , he's not jaded but he does try to rebuild the park in Texas and things go wrong because the his partner ended up being Peter Ludlow (who is horribly scarred but somehow survived the Rex eating him in the ending of TLW) and wanted revenge on Hammond's legacy for what happened to him. Yeah the comic is trash but it was cool to see Tim back.

But take a look at Ian Malcolm (Goldblum) he was wasted and all his scenes were in the trailer, his daughter (from TLW) wanting to work for Claire would've been cool. Or the kid from JP/// who actually had experience in the island would've been a good choice to go back.

As far as the JW kids, I think it's confirmed that the parents separated. I don't know where you can see that, it's implied in the movie but they were maybe more explicit in the jr. novel adaptation or something of the like. All JP movies actually deal with kids that have divorced parents, even FK, well kinda.