Characters that you Hate or don't like

[Allio]

and maybe it isn't because you hate the character itself, but perhaps the idea or concept or cliches of those said characters.

I'll start.

Female Thor - Yes, I know, comic book character but still. outside of the writing being very bad in this series, what really kills me is the promotion. they promote her as Thor is a woman, but the fact of the matter is that regular thor is still there and he has lost his powers which were given to a woman....that isn't "female thor" that is "female with thor's powers"

Ramona Badwolf (Ever After High) - the very concept of Ramona enrages me. Okay so we have Cerise Hood, daughter of Red Riding Hood and the Big Bad Wolf. she is a very distant woman whom hides under her hood, afraid to be found out as a freak that shouldn't even exist. Everything that we have seen of her has heavily hinted at that she is an only child, that she is one of a kind (2 episodes focuses heavily on her family and a book that focused heavily on her home life.)
her first scene appearance did zilch, she literally stood around doing nothing - could have had the whole scene without her.

[CyberCubed]

I hate the other female character who gets in the way of my shippings!!!!!!1111!!!!!!! MY OTP MUST BE CANON!

[Krutch]

At the moment? Felicity Smoak. I really don't need to explain.

[Powder]

Mona Lisa comes to mind.

[Autbot_Benz]

At the moment? Felicity Smoak. I really don't need to explain.

this times 1000000000000 **** felicity and **** the olicity shippers

[Prowler]

Hmm tough question. I can think of plenty of characters whose concept I like but dislike their execution but not the other way around.

I guess Bania from Seinfeld fits both bills? I personally never found him funny, just annoying and cringeworthy.

While I don't dislike the concept of his character I must say that Chase was my least favorite member of House's team.

Mona Lisa comes to mind.

I didn't dislike Mona Lisa. Although I'd have preferred her to have always been an animal instead of a human pre-mutation. That makes her whole interest in Raphael a bit creepy. I'm not disappointed she was only in one episode, anyway. I've never cared much about the Turtles having love interests.

[Cure]

I really don't like Black Widow in the Marvel movies. She was the only major flaw of Winter Soldier for me, her and her dumb jokes.

[Powder]

I didn't dislike Mona Lisa. Although I'd have preferred her to have always been an animal instead of a human pre-mutation. That makes her whole interest in Raphael a bit creepy. I'm not disappointed she was only in one episode, anyway. I've never cared much about the Turtles having love interests.

I didn't really dislike the original one, mostly just her fans. I'm more put off by the new one.

[ToTheNines]

Boba Fett. He does nothing, yet people go ape **** over him.


I really don't like Black Widow in the Marvel movies. She was the only major flaw of Winter Soldier for me, her and her dumb jokes.

Beep beep.

[PangolinFeets]

Boba Fett. He does nothing, yet people go ape **** over him.




Beep beep.
Second this.


Harry Potter. Such a boring twat. Frankly, almost every character in each book is unbearably obnoxious.

[Shark_Blade]

Han Solo. Annoying with his bad boy routine. Indy is better.

Darth Vader. So silly with his helmet and asthmatic voice.

[ZariusTwo]

Kamala Khan: Her Inhuman connection is barely touched upon, and on top of that she's a fanboy hero, and that type never works. You want to live vicariously through these heroes, but you don't want these heroes pointing out all the cliches and trappings of their world in a meta sense as it shatters the illusion.

Don't get me wrong, it's a nice education on muslim culture, and her home life is pretty interesting, and I like a lot of her supporting cast, but she let her best friend hook up with someone else because she was too selfish about her own superheroics, making me feel sorry for the current girlfriend because Bruno is clearly only settling for her. Kamala's all pouty about it now and she's the one to blame for it.

Batgirl of Burnside: Started off as a fan, but as the title advanced, it became too obvious it was catering to hipster tumblrities. Babs acts nothing like she used to, she acts like a repressed teenager in a twenty-something body. Once upon a time, she was the one who acted more maturely than Dick, and now I feel Dick is way more mature than her.

[CyberCubed]

LOL @ people disliking Han Solo or Darth Vader just because they're popular character. In fact those two characters also largely popularized their character tropes for all of fiction since they debuted in the 70's long before everything else was written.

[Mew]

LOL @ people disliking Han Solo or Darth Vader just because they're popular character. In fact those two characters also largely popularized their character tropes for all of fiction since they debuted in the 70's long before everything else was written.

I don't hate Han Solo because he is popular. I don't like his character.
Han Solo. Annoying with his bad boy routine. Indy is better.

Darth Vader. So silly with his helmet and asthmatic voice.

I don't mind Vader. I really don't like Solo.

[snake]

-MCU Black Widow
-Dio Brando (great character, just not likeable)
-TMA Spiderman
-Brook from One Piece (he's alright)

[Mew]

-Brook from One Piece (he's alright)

He can be annoying sometimes (like when he asks for panties every two minutes) but I like his design, fighting style and Devil Fruit. (Yes, I'm already up to Thriller Bark in the manga. .-.)

[plastroncafe]

Jack from Lost.
Ward from Agents of SHIELD.
Cyclops from X-men.

ie: Bland Hero McGoodguy

Bebop and Rocksteady from TMNT
Gene Hackman's Lex Luthor from the Superman franchise

incompetent badguys who are still somehow supposed to be a threat.

[Allio]

Libby from Star Darlings the cartoon - the cartoon portrays her as a hyperactive boy-crazed always talking pinkie pie, while the book itself portrays herself more like rarity whom is generous to a fault, and she finds her talkative friend on the verge of annoyance.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Marvel's THOR.

Felicity Smoake, Ray Palmer, Kendra Saunders.

[Krutch]

Routh's Ray Palmer? Blasphemy! (granted, I haven't watched LoT)

Ummm...
Duncan Kane from Veronica Mars.
Scotty D from iZombie.

Oh, and Jayne Lynch in mostly everything.

[shuriken]

Jane lynch is good in small doses. I liked her in Wreck it Ralph and Talladega nights.
Umm Sam Whitwicky from the transformer movies? Actually everyone not named Optimus or Bumblebee in those movies.

Henry Cavill as Superman. Just seems like such a bummer, like he hates himself. I mean he just looks so strained after doing anything. Even smiling. I don't know how much of that is Cavill and how much of that is Snyder.

Not gonna lie I kinda like Felicity Smoak :tcouch:
Then again I'm barely on episode 8 season 3 of Arrow.

Also anything with Tom Green. Holy s**t why

[TLP]

+Rick (Rick & Morty) - Annoying, unfunny twat. Never knew why people find him so 'hilarious'.
+GIR (Invader Zim) - Just flat-out annoying.
+Felicity Smoak (Arrow)
+Spider-Gwen/Gwenpool (Marvel) - Part of the Gwen Stacy and Anti-MJ bandwagon started by Slott.
+Sheldon Cooper (The Big Bang Theory) - Hipster.
+Walder Frey/The Mountain/Ramsey and the Boltons/High Sparrow/etc (Game of Thrones) - Kill these evil f*ckers already, D&D.
+Russell and Denny (Transforers:RiD2015) - Painfully unlikable, and they get away with their paper-thin disguises waaaay too often.
+Zone-tan - Animated r*pist.

And last but not least:
+Barry Allen (The Flash 2014) - Lies about being the fastest man alive, yet gives away his speed to a mass serial killer he could have easily beaten, thus endangering billions of lives across the multiverse.

[Krutch]

Jane lynch is good in small doses. I liked her in Wreck it Ralph and Talladega nights.Agreed. Small doses are fine. I also kinda liked her in most of Party Down.

[ProactiveMan]

John Connor. The only one I really like is the 'future war' prologue guy from T2, and only because he looks cool. Kid John Conner is a twerp, Nick Stahl's is useless, Christian Bale's is a wiener, and Jason Clarke's is a robot.

Also Flounder from the Little Mermaid. What a tool.

[Jephael]

Miss Umbridge from Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix... talk about a psycho b*tch!!!

For a while I was actually getting sick of Batman, though it turned out I was just sick of how Justice League Unlimited was going overboard with making him excessively dark and brooding in order to make him more distinct from the animated reboot that came out around that time.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I have a feeling DC's going to overplay that aspect of him for laughs in Justice League Part One.:lol:

Let's see....

Venus, Eric Cartman, Neutrinos, Mona Lisa, Sasuke Uchiha in Shippuuden, Chris Thorndyke (Sonic X), Tuxedo Mask, Sarah, Jimmy, and Kevin (Ed, Edd, n' Eddy)

[Autbot_Benz]

Jaden Yuki from Yu-gi-oh GX he is too happy and when he is dueling and its for either his friends lives or the fate of the world he is always laughing and not taking it seriously like Yugi did.

[Wesley]

A few characters that I don't like off the top of my head are:

priya koothrappali from The Big Bang Theory
Charlie from Lost
Sally from Sonic SatAM and Sonic himself in season 2 of that cartoon

[Spike Spiegel]

Rey and Finn from The Force Awakens
Fem-Thor
Deadpool
Baby Dil from Rugrats
MCU Thor--just a boring character
MCU Black Widow--too inconsistent
Ma Barker from the 1966 Batman TV show
Vickers from Prometheus
Wesley from Star Trek TNG

[ZariusTwo]

A couple of more

Post-OMD/Mephistoverse Spider-Man: Not the same character in the slightest and has had some of the most embarrassing stories ever printed, ones that would have never seen the light of day under Shooter in the 80s.

Post-OMD/Mephistoverse MJ and Black Cat: See above. Benids is repairing the damage done to MJ in Iron Man, but you'll never see that happen in ASM while Slott is at the helm.

Scott Lang (comics): Another hero-turned-unlovable loser who's had too many misses as a character to be a hit with me, he needs to be more like his movie incarnation (which is even sadder because I think the intention right now IS to make him closer to the movie version, but goes way wrong).

[CyberCubed]

The entire Simpsons cast after Season 9 or so. Its hard to believe The Simpsons have now been bad for more than 60% of its run since they're in Season 28 now.

[snake]

Yeah, I'm gonna say Felicity when I watched Flash, because she sucks.

[TurtleTitan97]

Yeah, I'm gonna say Felicity when I watched Flash, because she sucks.

^ This goes for me as well.

[Krutch]

Boss Nass.

[Prowler]

The entire Simpsons cast after Season 9 or so. Its hard to believe The Simpsons have now been bad for more than 60% of its run since they're in Season 28 now.
Yeah whenever I watch a Simpsons episode post 2005 I find myself hating the characters more and more.

And it's been a while since I've heard about people discussing the latest Simpsons episode. I forgot it was still on.

[CyberCubed]

Simpsons is almost up to 30 seasons. I can't believe it.

[ZariusTwo]

To me, the last episode of The Simpsons was "Homer's Enemy", it not only effectively paints a vivid picture of the impending decade or so where Homer's stupidity becomes the defining trait of the whole show, but it also ends on the perfect line that defines my viewing habits in regards to this show

"Change the channel Marge"

[Shred Head]

Spider-Gwen (Marvel): A good idea that was done terribly and has become such a giant Mary Sue that I just cant even stand seeing now. I just have to hope once the current regime at Marvel is gone this character will stay in limbo for awhile then brought back with competent writers one day.

Finn: Nothing more then a giant red herring who is pretty much the franchises new Jar Jar. Hopefully that changes in the next movie.

Ahsoka Tano: Shes the Scrappy Doo that the franchise didn't need or want. Disney for some reason wont kill her off despite her being in the original Trilogy era is such a bad idea that screams fan fic. Out of all the expanded universe characters that get dumped like Kyle Katarn and Mara Jade shes the one that sticks around that just bugs me.

Cyclops: He used to be like Leo the leader without much personality that I didn't pay much attention to but I didn't hate. Now I just cant stand the character also for awhile they went out of there way to make Storm into the second banana despite the fact that she was the better leader of the X-Men.

Sasuke Uchiha: He has no character like at all yet he pretty much becomes the main character. He killed the naruto manga for me.

Sakura Haruno: She has only two character traits and there both awful irrational anger and shallow love for an abusive asshole. Thats is it thats all she has.

The worst offender any time Greg Cipes plays the "lovable" goof. He was sorta tolerable in Teen Titans as Beast Boy but TMNT Mikey has just been unbearable. This version of Mikey is the reason I cant even watch the new series anymore.

[snake]

C'mon, Finn was the best new character in TFA besides Poe.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Ill agree on Nick Mikey. He's gotten better, but he's fallen from my favorite to second least favorite turtle in this version. That says something when I like both Donnie and Raph better.

One I dislike from the 90 movie is Danny. He's a tool for the entire time until he finally grows a conscience and helps rescue Splinter. Never mind that he was the one who got them attacked both times..... If he'd led the turtles to the hideout, they might have gotten away without a fight. Instead he runs off on his own. The only reason they were ready was that they woke up and found him gone. Why they even let him stay there when he ratted them out the first time is beyond me.

[Spike Spiegel]

Boss Nass.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/df5dc1f9e29fc304d0c2d8b132b5af65/tumblr_mh1ijiomoD1qlzduwo1_500.gif

I thought he was one of the only genuinely funny things about TPM.

[CyberCubed]

Nobody said Jar Jar in this thread yet? Unbelieveable.

I also hate the opposing female character who gets in the way of my shippings!!!!!!11111!!!! My OTP must be canon and I will riot in the streets with pitchforks if it isn't!!!

[GoldMutant]

Quite a bit actually from a lot of media, but here are some of the top of my head for now:

Carnage (Spider-Man)- It might be me, but Carnage feels slightly overrated among the rogue gallery. I haven't read a Carnage related comic, but if someone can point out to me if he's more than just a killer I'd greatly appreciate. :) His design I'll give props towards, but otherwise I don't feel he's done well in terms of other media outside the 90's cartoon. Dangerous I'll admit, but not an enjoyable antagonist, especially compared to Venom and other Spider-Man villains.

Lord Dregg (2012 series only)- It must really suck when you're a villain when you come at the wrong point in time for shows. :roll: I liked Dregg in the Fred Wolf era, mostly due in part to Tony Jay being awesome as normal. Sure, he was out of left field to replace Shredder and Krang, but his design was alright and he did up the stakes in the remainder of the show's lifespan. If he had more to do and was fleshed out better, I'd say he's one of my favorite TMNT antagonists, but not this version.

I said it before involving Nick Turtles: Dregg was a horrible addition to the cast. He's overly dramatic with a petty motive of the Turtles ruining a deal he made over spice and swears vengeance. Outside there being no elaboration on the spice (putting aside drug subtlety), he does next to nothing, taking a backseat to the Triceratons. Sure, he threatens Mona Lisa's planet and hires Armaggon, but otherwise he doesn't do much. It gets really bad when one of the recent villains made him a whining baby and he gets frozen after a failed alliance with Mozar. Hoping to God he never returns, writers need to take notes on him.

Most Adam Sandler characters- I liked Happy Gilmore due to nostalgia, but every other role he does I want to punch him in the face. Honestly, why can't he try to attempt to make decent comedy? :ohwell:

Ghetsis (Unova Pokemon games)- Generation 5 is my favorite Pokemon generation due to it's story, excellent new Pokemon, lively music, practically it's the complete package and rank among my favorite games. (Soul Silver is still my favorite, but Black 2 is very close) However, while N and Colress are compelling villains, I can't say the same for Ghetsis. He's got an awesome theme and frightening team, but otherwise he's just not a compelling villain. Not exactly personal hatred, but slight dislike.

[Bry]

Carnage (Spider-Man)- It might be me, but Carnage feels slightly overrated among the rogue gallery. I haven't read a Carnage related comic, but if someone can point out to me if he's more than just a killer I'd greatly appreciate. :) His design I'll give props towards, but otherwise I don't feel he's done well in terms of other media outside the 90's cartoon. Dangerous I'll admit, but not an enjoyable antagonist, especially compared to Venom and other Spider-Man villains.

I feel like Carnage is the kind of villain who works exactly once. His purpose is to make Venom look like a halfway decent guy by comparison. He was a plot point -- a symbiote in the hands of a deranged serial killer being the one thing that force Spider-Man and Venom into a strange alliance. He's not much of a character beyond that, and IMO they've only very rarely done anything remotely interesting with him past that point. Should've left him dead after he was torn in half in space.

Kind of like Doomsday, from the same era. He serves exactly one purpose, and that's killing Superman. Bringing him back again and again after that is just diminishing returns.

C'mon, Finn was the best new character in TFA besides Poe.

Yeah, legitimately do not understand the hate for Finn. I found him super endearing. (But to each their own, of course.)

[Spike Spiegel]

Yeah, legitimately do not understand the hate for Finn. I found him super endearing.

I found him to be a racist portrayal of an emasculated beta male archetype. He drinks out of that trough on Jakku like one of the animals, someone else has to give him his name--his whole storyarc could be called "Twelve Years a Space Slave." The promos made him look like a brave action hero, but then the movie shows him getting his ass kicked by everyone. He was also a coward and a liar who was only there to make Rey look like a more competent and awesome protagonist.

And as for Rey, other than the beginning sequences in TFA that show her scavenging for resources, she was too bland to really be all that compelling.

[snake]

I found him to be a racist portrayal of an emasculated beta male archetype. He drinks out of that trough on Jakku like one of the animals, someone else has to give him his name--his whole storyarc could be called "Twelve Years a Space Slave." The promos made him look like a brave action hero, but then the movie showing getting his ass kicked by everyone. He was also a coward and a liar who was only there to make Rey look like a more competent and awesome.

And as for Rey, other than the beginning sequences in TFA that show her scavenging for resources, she was too bland to really be all that compelling.

His character arc isn't over yet. He'll be a badass by episode 9. Not everyone is gonna be maRey Sue on day 1. I would've made him more like a brainwashed solider though. Like what the f*ck was up with his willingness to shoot his friends he grew up with immidietly?

Honestly every time I think seriously about TFA I think less of it. I liked Old Han, Luke, the 70s visuals, Poe, BB8, Kylo and that's about it. What a soulless cashgrab piece of sh*t movie.

[Spike Spiegel]

Honestly every time I think seriously about TFA I think less of it. I liked Old Han, Luke, the 70s visuals, Poe, BB8, Kylo and that's about it. What a soulless cashgrab piece of sh*t movie.

On this we can agree. Although I think Kylo's helmet never should have come off...

[plastroncafe]

I don't feel qualified to speak on whether Finn is a racial stereotype, though I find it interesting that the First Order has a history of stealing POC children and raising them to always wear white masks. How many non-white faces are hidden under the white helmets of the lower rank Storm Troopers? It's a nice subtle bit of evil foreshadowing that the creators have tossed in there.

I do, however, feel the need to step in to address "beta male" and "cowardice."

If the whole concept of the beta male stems from the understanding of wolf pack behavior, than it's a crock and should be dismissed out of hand.

As for Finn being a coward, that too is a crock. The guy turned away from everyone and everything he ever knew because he realized what they were doing was wrong. That takes courage. Courage doesn't exist without fear. Courage is acting in spite of that fear, which Finn does.

He is, however...a liar. Though, I'm more than willing to give him a pass on that one, in light of his bravery.

[snake]

As for Finn being a coward, that too is a crock. The guy turned away from everyone and everything he ever knew because he realized what they were doing was wrong. That takes courage. Courage doesn't exist without fear. Courage is acting in spite of that fear, which Finn does.

He is, however...a liar. Though, I'm more than willing to give him a pass on that one, in light of his bravery.

All that sounds great for a character except you never get that from the movie. Right from the getgo it's WOOOOOOO and DIDDJU SEE THAT as Finn kills the people he grew up with. Finn isn't reluctant at all. It's becoming more and more obvious that Disney put little thought into this movie under the guise that it would sell anyway, which it did. Too bad no one will remember it in 10 years.
John Boyega is a cool dude though.

[Bry]

"Emasculated beta male archetype"? :tconfuse:

Again, to each their own. I think he was as much a "badass action hero" as any non-Jedi in this movie/universe. Most characters in these movies get their asses kicked somewhat regularly, or wind up in some grimy situations (often literally). He kicked ass and got his ass kicked. Same can be said for Luke Skywalker in the original movie. It's what made him feel like a Star Wars character to me -- he's not an invincible badass, he's a flawed guy who's thrust into a bad situation and has to find his way to heroism.

And sorry, but I don't think he's any more of a coward and a liar than Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, Lando Calrissian, or Rey herself. Each of them had at least a moment where they tried to refuse/run away from the call to action, and each of them had second thoughts, stepped up, and became a hero. It's a pretty common thing for Star Wars characters.

[snake]

"Emasculated beta male archetype"? :tconfuse:

Again, to each their own. I think he was as much a "badass action hero" as any non-Jedi in this movie/universe. Most characters in these movies get their asses kicked somewhat regularly, or wind up in some grimy situations (often literally). He kicked ass and got his ass kicked. Same can be said for Luke Skywalker in the original movie. It's what made him feel like a Star Wars character to me -- he's not an invincible badass, he's a flawed guy who's thrust into a bad situation and has to find his way to heroism.

And sorry, but I don't think he's any more of a coward and a liar than Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, Lando Calrissian, or Rey herself. Each of them had at least a moment where they tried to refuse/run away from the call to action, and each of them turned back. It's a pretty common thing for Star Wars characters.

All this too. His character arc isn't finished. Still, the movie didn't do a good job at fleshing out his (or anyone besides Kylo and Poe's) character.

Finn is a poorly written character, but not for the reasons why people are saying he is

[plastroncafe]

All that sounds great for a character except you never get that from the movie. Right from the getgo it's WOOOOOOO and DIDDJU SEE THAT as Finn kills the people he grew up with. Finn isn't reluctant at all. It's becoming more and more obvious that Disney put little thought into this movie under the guise that it would sell anyway, which it did. Too bad no one will remember it in 10 years.
John Boyega is a cool dude though.

Maybe that's how you saw it, but right from the get-go I saw him mourn the loss of a friend. Something that physically marred his perfect facade long before we ever saw his face under the helmet.

He knows exactly what the First Order does, because he's been there. He's seen them do it. And we're lead to believe he had an increasing problem doing it himself up until they land on Jakku.

As for killing his friends...sometimes you have to look out for number 1. Those people were coming for him, and he defended himself.

In conclusion: I disagree, and emasculated beta males don't exist.

[Bry]

I wouldn't even say he's a poorly-written character, really... TFA was just the beginning of his journey. I mean, Luke Skywalker wasn't an especially strong character in the first Star Wars movie alone. I'm sure the next movie will add more depth, just like Empire did.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Maybe that's how you saw it, but right from the get-go I saw him mourn the loss of a friend.

I didn't see him mourning a friend, I saw him going, "Holy **** I'm deep in this sh*t."

Didn't they say that was his first battle or something? Or am I imagining that?

While we're on the subject of TFA, I can't stand BB-8. He's the Jar Jar Binks of TFA.

[plastroncafe]

I didn't see him mourning a friend, I saw him going, "Holy **** I'm deep in this sh*t."

Didn't they say that was his first battle or something? Or am I imagining that?

While we're on the subject of TFA, I can't stand BB-8. He's the Jar Jar Binks of TFA.

You know to be honest, I don't remember. Saw the dang thing twice, and I can't rightly say. I can only recall them saying that they haven't seen this kind of behavior from him before, and that he'll need reconditioning.

I'd also like to submit the majority of the cast of Big Ban Theory to my list of characters I don't like.

[Spike Spiegel]

The storyarc could get better for Finn if they use Empire as a template.

However, things could also get even worse--they might follow the precedent set by Anakin in Attack of the Clones.

Just imagine a whiny Finn beseeching Rey for her love. After all, this is Disney we are talking about. Perhaps we won't have to imagine.


While we're on the subject of TFA, I can't stand BB-8. He's the Jar Jar Binks of TFA.

BB-8's performance was better than those of most of the human characters, IMHO.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I'd also like to submit the majority of the cast of Big Ban Theory to my list of characters I don't like.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/winniethepooh/images/3/34/Image.png/revision/20151127224852/scale-to-width-down/109

BB-8's performance was better than those of most of the human characters, IMHO.

Sadly I agree with you. But BB-8 was only there for merchandising purposes, just like Jar Jar.

[snake]

You know to be honest, I don't remember. Saw the dang thing twice, and I can't rightly say. I can only recall them saying that they haven't seen this kind of behavior from him before, and that he'll need reconditioning.

See! This is how forgetable this flick is. I've seen it 4 times and I still can't figure out why R2D2 turned back on, or why Finn was so happy to shoot his pals after being brainwashed, or why starkiller base exists, or why Han Solo managed to find the falcon right away, or why Rey knew how to pilot the falcon (just like f*cking anakin), or why no one had any actual character, or how Luke Leia and Han managed to create Vader 2.0, or why the force ghosts didn't appear, or why the resistance is still using 30 year old tech, or why all the aliens look like bumpy brown pieces of sh*t, or what the new republic is doing, or why the much needed senate scene was cut, or how Rey knew what the resistance was despite living on sh*thole supreme, or how the resistance blew up starkiller base, or how the biggest battle in the galaxy was won without ground troops, or how the first order gathered the money to build Starkiller, or how they managed to f*ck it up with the same mistakes every other death star had, or why every planet looks like earth.

Y'know what, I'd take the prequels over TFA any day, atleast those give a good laugh.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

why the much needed senate scene was cut

They probably wanted to distance themselves from the prequels, which of course have quite a bit of diplomacy scenes, ad nauseam.

[snake]

They probably wanted to distance themselves from the prequels, which of course have quite a bit of diplomacy scenes, ad nauseam.
That's absolutely the reason, which makes it even more retarded. If you don't know how to make a scene interesting (which a senate scene can be) then you shouldn't deserve this movie.

[plastroncafe]

Briefly considered going through that screed point by point, but...then I got to the end and saw praise for the Prequels. Not worth it.

I will say that Han specifically tells Rey and Finn exactly how he and Chewie found the Falcon.

And that the Jedi were a messed up bunch of people, so it's really no surprise to me that someone snapped under the pressure of living that lifestyle.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

That's absolutely the reason, which makes it even more retarded. If you don't know how to make a scene interesting (which a senate scene can be) then you shouldn't deserve this movie.

Definitely. People might call me crazy but I kind of like the senate scene in The Phantom Menace. But I guess lightsaber action sells more toys than extra-terrestrial political debates, so I can see why Disney made the choice.

In Daredevil I find the courtroom scenes far more riveting than the action.

[snake]

Briefly considered going through that screed point by point, but...then I got to the end and saw praise for the Prequels. Not worth it.

I will say that Han specifically tells Rey and Finn exactly how he and Chewie found the Falcon.


First of all, I wasn't praising the prequels, I'm just saying they tried harder than TFA and actually had some decent worldbuilding (see the clone wars animated series)

Second, Han did not say that. He mentions something about the Irving Boys or whatever and shock at Unkarr having the Falcon when Rey or Finn tells him.

[Spike Spiegel]

See! This is how forgetable this flick is.

Y'know what, I'd take the prequels over TFA any day, atleast those give a good laugh.

When I was but a lad watching AOTC, I remember the ending battles and the Obi-Wan/Jango Fett starship chase leaving quite an impression on me. Also, the line delivery when Anakin complains about sand and his issues with Obi-Wan is priceless.

Since the film was so strongly marketed to preteen-adolescent males, I wonder how many "younglings" have died because of Padme's abs. ;)

[plastroncafe]

First of all, I wasn't praising the prequels, I'm just saying they tried harder than TFA and actually had some decent worldbuilding (see the clone wars animated series)

Second, Han did not say that. He mentions something about the Irving Boys or whatever and shock at Unkarr having the Falcon when Rey or Finn tells him.

And then he says that the ship came up on scanners, "How else do you think we found you so fast."

As well as mentioning how they needed to find them a clean ship.

[snake]

When I was but a lad watching AOTC, I remember the ending battles and the Obi-Wan/Jango Fett starship chase leaving quite an impression on me. Also, the line delivery when Anakin complains about sand and his issues with Obi-Wan is priceless.

Since the film was so strongly marketed to preteen-adolescent males, I wonder how many "younglings" have died because of Padme's abs. ;)

Say what you will about her robotic acting in the PT but she nailed it in the looks department. How anyone finds Daisy Ridley more attractive over Portman is beyond me.

[snake]

And then he says that the ship came up on scanners, "How else do you think we found you so fast."

As well as mentioning how they needed to find them a clean ship.

Does that really happen? Even if it does, it doesn't clear anything up. Why couldn't "the scanners" find the ship on Jakku? How did the falcon even get there in the first place without "the scanners" tracking it? BUT YKNOW I GUESS THATS A STORY FOR ANOTHER DAY LOL HACK WRITING

[plastroncafe]

Does that really happen? Even if it does, it doesn't clear anything up. Why couldn't "the scanners" find the ship on Jakku? How did the falcon even get there in the first place without "the scanners" tracking it?

Go watch it for a fifth time and get back to us.

[snake]

Go watch it for a fifth time and get back to us.

Goddamnit I'm gonna have to, am I? See you guys in 2 hours or so.

[Spike Spiegel]

Goddamnit I'm gonna have to, am I? See you guys in 2 hours or so.

I might take a cue from you and go watch the AOTC scenes with Padme and her midriff. There's far more depth and mystery there.

[plastroncafe]

Goddamnit I'm gonna have to, am I? See you guys in 2 hours or so.

Oooh! And pay special attention to whether that Jakku mission to fetch Poe was Finn's first deployment.

I'm envious. I'd go and watch it, but this term paper isn't going to write itself.
Much to my chagrin.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Someone transcribed TFA (http://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/movie_script.php?movie=star-wars-episode-vii-the-force-awakens) and Finn apparently says this:

"In my first battle, I made a choice. I wasn't going to kill for them."

[plastroncafe]

"Solo, why are we here again?
- To get your droid on a clean ship.
- Clean?
Do you think it was luck that
Chewie and I found the Falcon?
If we can find it on our scanners,
the First Order is not far behind."

[TheSkeletonMan939]

So why couldn't they scan it before?
Can they only read it if it's turned on?

If that kind of technology exists, why is it so hard for the First Order to find the Rebel base? Can't they just "scan" for their ships?

[plastroncafe]

Because apparently scanners have range limitations, and:

"- Where did you get this ship?
- Niima Outpost.
Jakku?
That junkyard?
Thank you!
Junkyard.
I told you we should've double
check the Western Reaches."

They never checked the Western Reaches.

[snake]

Because apparently scanners have range limitations, and:

"- Where did you get this ship?
- Niima Outpost.
Jakku?
That junkyard?
Thank you!
Junkyard.
I told you we should've double
check the Western Reaches."

They never checked the Western Reaches.

I guess it's just a huge coincidence that they were in the area for the scanners to work. I'm actually on this exact part now and I still can't wrap my head around this.

[CyberCubed]

People don't like Finn now? This is the first I'm hearing about this. He was alright for the the male lead with some funny moments and nice scenes. I mean what did people expect?

[Spike Spiegel]

People don't like Finn now? This is the first I'm hearing about this. He was alright for the the male lead with some funny moments and nice scenes. I mean what did people expect?

Someone reasonably competent who wasn't comic relief.

[BabyTurtles]

Korra.......actually most of the characters from Legend of Korra....

Sasuke...Hinata..Naruto....actually...most of the characters from Naruto...XD

Donnie (tmnt2012)
April (tmnt 2012)

any character that never learns their lesson...or is just that "dumb comic relief" character.

[CyberCubed]

Man I forgot about the characters from Korra, which is odd because I watched the show in full back in 2014 which was only 2 years ago.

I think the main problem with that show is the writers had no idea how to develop the main cast. The two brothers didn't grow or change much since their first appearances, and Asami was underused to the point where she barely did anything. Then all those secondary and third-tier recurring characters they introduced, half of them were so boring I forgot what they even did.

Tenzin was best character.

[Bry]

So why couldn't they scan it before?
Can they only read it if it's turned on?

If that kind of technology exists, why is it so hard for the First Order to find the Rebel base? Can't they just "scan" for their ships?

That, and maybe the scanners only work if the ship is out of a planet's atmosphere? And additionally, maybe they had to already know the signal to search for, which Han and Chewie would?

[BabyTurtles]

Man I forgot about the characters from Korra, which is odd because I watched the show in full back in 2014 which was only 2 years ago.

I think the main problem with that show is the writers had no idea how to develop the main cast. The two brothers didn't grow or change much since their first appearances, and Asami was underused to the point where she barely did anything. Then all those secondary and third-tier recurring characters they introduced, half of them were so boring I forgot what they even did.

Tenzin was best character.

Considering I pretty much loved all the characters from ATLA.......

LOK was a major step back for me......I mean the only characters I tolerated were side characters...

[TheSkeletonMan939]

They never checked the Western Reaches.

Wait, what? So they happened to be there at that point in time?

It would have been cooler if - this would have required only a minute more of screentime - Rey and Finn flew around in the Falcon for a good long while, and then Han captured them. The explanation could have been that news of the frickin' Millenium Falcon - the ship that blew up the second Death Star - being back in action traveled fast, and Han & Chewie raced straight to the Jakku system as soon as they heard the news.

Not only would that have made more sense, but it would have communicated to the audience that the events in the OT have passed more or less into legend, in a way.

[Leofan26]

Ok, another long list....

Gravity Falls - Mabel ( My gosh she got selfish as the seasons moved on and was a hypocrite ) I skipped a lot of her episodes. Hell, even in the series final I, blah!

Danny Phantom - Sam ( Hypocrite )

Pokemon - Misty and Iris ( In shows I can't stand bossy characters like that. I hate Iris character more though, I didn't think I could hate any one more than Misty's character. Pokemon handled Iris character awful, LOL the entire fandom hates her even, I think from what I remember she's the least liked female companion of Pokemon and Ash X Iris pairing is the least liked out of all of Ash's pairings LOL )

Family Guy - Too many to name, Stewie is the only likable character left and I don't know where to put Meg's character, I don't hate her I just feel major sympathy for her. )

NT - Shredder 2003 / 2012 versions ( err um the older 80s version I yah I laughed more at than any thing. I guess that's what the writers were going for right? )

Digimon - Matt ( Both 02 and the first series, I can't stand his character. ) 02 Kari.

Avatar the last Airbender / Legend of korra - Katara ( Hypocrite ) Mako ( Manwhore / Betrayed his brother, should I say more? ) Lin ( Was bad ass in season one than yah. Not to mention her affair she was having when she was younger ) Korra ( Book two / one )

Kim Possible - Season one and two Kim ( Egotistic much? She got better in season three and I grew to like her in season four, she was actually showing feelings :o )

Phineas and Ferb - Candace ( Her busting her brothers story got annoying, not to mention the later seasons focused too much on her character )

Rugrats All Grown Up - Angelica ( Watch all of her episodes and you'll see why she's on here )

Jimmy Neutron - Carl season three ( I couldn't stand what his character turned into. At times I wanted Jimmy to launch him into space. )

Dexter Lab - DeDee ( Her destroying every thing of Dexters and always getting what she wants and putting Dexter down, yah. )

Ed / Edd n Eddy - The only like able characters in the series are Ed and Double D ( Every one else I hated. )

American Dragon Jake Long - Lucy ( Too full of herself. )

Heroes - Claire ( So Selfish as the series moved on. ) Nathan season three and four ( Betraying his friends, yet he expected his brother to forgive him like that? Right ) Peter and Nathan's mom ( So many names I can give her, Season four did not earn any sympathy points from me. )

Charlie Brown - Lucy ( Good gosh, why did the writer feel she should get off Scott free with every thing she did? To this day I still can't forgive her for pulling the football away in front of his crush, that was the wrong place to do that. Not to mention it costed them the game yet every one blamed Charlie Brown for this. ) I am rather confused, the writer said it was based off his life, what?

Batman - Joker ( What he did to Robin in the Batman Bayound film was terrifying and well. )

[ranger_scout]

When it comes to television I really could not stand Elizabeth Mitchell's character, Ingrid the Snow Queen, from Once Upon a Time or the show's version of Peter Pan played by Robbie Kay. I also did not like the majority of the main or recurring characters from 30 Rock, especially during season five. Since around late 2011 or mid-to-late 2012 I have not been able to stand Sheldon Cooper from The Big Bang Theory. When I was a kid I wanted to go up and strangle Lacienega Boulevardez from The Proud Family, Miranda from As Told by Ginger, as well as Buster, Francine, Mr. & Mrs. Reed, and D.W. from Arthur

Over the years, there have been many movie characters I don't enjoy at all. Lady Tremaine from the animated version of Cinderella was just a downright horrible person. Someone brought up Professor Umbridge from Harry Potter and that is another good example.

[Krutch]

I haven't read a Carnage related comic, but if someone can point out to me if he's more than just a killer I'd greatly appreciate. :)
Backtracking here, a bit...

I mentioned that I like Carnage in another thread recently, and my reasoning for liking him is because he is a one dimensional character. The Marvel Universe especially prides itself in complex, well motivated villains. Because of this, I found Carnage was kind of refreshing being crazy evil for the sake of being crazy evil.

And it's not like he's overdone(to my knowledge, anyways. I'm a DC guy). He's not meant to be a common player in the game, but when he does show up, it's going to get bloody real fast.

And I kinda like that :)

[Allio]

When was it confirmed it was an affair? I thought tenzin and Lin dated before he met his qife

[AT-Man]

I don't like Super Mario.

[Prowler]

I don't like Super Mario.
Why's that? Granted he's not the deepest character out there, but I never thought it'd be possible to dislike him.

[JakeSully]

What about Ezra from Tales from the Crypt's Fitting Punishment episode? a true bastard if i ever saw one

[ranger_scout]

After a while I also really couldn't stand Angelica Pickles from Rugrats and All Grown Up.

[AT-Man]

Why's that? Granted he's not the deepest character out there, but I never thought it'd be possible to dislike him.

He's just one of those characters, that if he were a song on radio, I'd wanna change the frequency. I like Luigi far better.