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Autbot_Benz
05-17-2016, 10:32 PM
The fallout from Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice continues to ripple through Warner Bros.

The Burbank-based studio is making changes to the way it handles its DC Entertainment-centered films, giving oversight of the feature projects to a pair of executives and creating a dedicated division for the films. Current executive vp Jon Berg and Geoff Johns, DC's chief content officer who successfully launched the comics label's foray into television, will co-run DC Films, according to multiple sources.

This move is part of a broader refinement of executive roles at Warners, which has suffered a disappointing run of movies and has vexed producers and filmmakers, some of whom complain about a murky greenlight process.

Instead of a broad range of movies to oversee, executives will be charged with managing “genre streams" while reporting to Warner Bros. Pictures president Greg Silverman. In many cases, these streams formalize interests and specialties for specific executives. Courtenay Valenti, for example, will now oversee all Lego Movie projects as well as the Harry Potter line that begins with November's Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them. Senior production execs Jesse Ehrman and Niija Kuykendall will focus more on comedy/family and sci-fi/action, respectively, according to sources.

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Further executive changes are anticipated, including a potential hire at the senior level.

Berg was already working on BvS, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman and Justice League. He also is a conduit to Ben Affleck, having worked with the actor-filmmaker on Argo and Live by Night, the crime thriller Affleck recently wrapped as director, writer and star for the studio.

Comics writer-turned-exec Johns, meanwhile, masterminded the ascension of shows such as Arrow, The Flash and Supergirl and is the writer behind DC's upcoming Rebirth, the publishing side's reboot of its titles that will play out over the summer months. He is not leaving DC, according to sources, but adding film to his portfolio.

Johns will still report to DC Entertainment president Diane Nelson, while Berg will report to Silverman.

With Berg and Johns, Warner Bros. is attempting to unify the disparate elements of the DC movies with a seasoned film exec and a comics veteran that together can hopefully emulate the way Marvel Studios has produced its films under the vision of president Kevin Feige. But sources also say Warners still wants to remain filmmaker-driven. As part of their new jobs, Berg and Johns will become producers on the Justice League movies.

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The muted reception of BvS, from a box-office and critical point of view, is the flashpoint for the changes. The studio had high hopes for the movie, which pitted its top heroes against each other. The door was opened for director Zack Snyder to be involved in shaping the look and content of the entire DC line, which is scheduled through 2020. But critics and fans ripped into the first pic and especially Snyder for perceived missteps, including its heroes' unheroic behavior and the dark tone. BvS, which cost at least $300 million to make, has grossed under $870 million worldwide since its March 25 release.

In stark contrast, Marvel Studios’ Captain America: Civil War is heading towards $1 billion in less than two weeks of release. The movie also pitted heroes against each other, but Marvel's lighter tone and bright colors (while tackling more serious themes) are clearly resonating with audiences.

So Warners is attempting a course correction.

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The shuffle, as well as Berg and Johns' new positions, come as other changes are being implemented on the DC movies. For example, Affleck was recently made executive producer on Justice League, upping his creative involvement when it comes to all things Batman and perhaps beyond.

Warner Bros. parted ways with screenwriter Seth Grahame-Smith, who was to have made his directorial debut with The Flash. In another example of post-BvS fallout, the studio didn’t feel confident in a first-time helmer and is now looking for a more seasoned filmmaker who can not only handle a large $150 million-plus movie but who can also have an authoritative stamp.

And the studio is working to smooth out the third act of Suicide Squad, its big August movie from director David Ayer that could change the perception of its DC line. The pic’s trailers have generated massive positive interest in the all-star actioner that features DC villains, and the studio wants to make sure audiences’ expectations are not only met but exceeded.

Suicide Squad recently went under major additional photography (multiple sources say it was not to add humor) to clear up the issues. Sources say that it was Suicide Squad that escalated Johns’ involvement in DC movies (he was already co-writing the next Batman standalone with Affleck) and that he is involved in the film’s post-production.

source http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/batman-v-superman-fallout-warner-895174

snake
05-17-2016, 10:37 PM
Just shut it down already. I don't know how much more capesh*t I can take.

NinjaPug
05-17-2016, 10:41 PM
Best news possible.

Take Johns off the books and let him focus on the movies and get Snyder as far away as possible.

TurtleTitan97
05-17-2016, 10:55 PM
Man, it must SUCK to be Zack Snyder these days. :lol:

ToTheNines
05-18-2016, 05:22 AM
Man, it must SUCK to be Zack Snyder these days. :lol:

Not as badly as being a DC fan.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-18-2016, 09:28 AM
I've lost all faith in the DCEU, just because the people running the DCEU don't have any faith in themselves (or they keep making terrible mistakes).

There's no gameplan here... just violent reactions to each new thing Marvel does or reactions to critiques of previous films. Zach Snyder needs to go, and unfortunately, I think their entire overarching narrative (if they even HAVE one) needs to go.

Concentrate on standalone films and build the universe methodically: Wonder Woman, Suicide Squad, Batman, the Harley Quinn movie. Do the Green Lantern Corps movie NOW, not in freaking 2020. Flash and Aquaman. Man of Steel 2. Then eventually, when they've earned it, Justice League.

plastroncafe
05-18-2016, 09:31 AM
Best news possible.

Take Johns off the books and let him focus on the movies and get Snyder as far away as possible.

I don't know man, I saw Green Lantern.
If that's the best news possible, then it might be time to start a Hug A DC Fanboy campaign.

Foombamaroom
05-18-2016, 09:35 AM
I've lost all faith in the DCEU, just because the people running the DCEU don't have any faith in themselves (or they keep making terrible mistakes).

There's no gameplan here... just violent reactions to each new thing Marvel does or reactions to critiques of previous films. Zach Snyder needs to go, and unfortunately, I think their entire overarching narrative (if they even HAVE one) needs to go.

Concentrate on standalone films and build the universe methodically: Wonder Woman, Suicide Squad, Batman, the Harley Quinn movie. Do the Green Lantern Corps movie NOW, not in freaking 2020. Flash and Aquaman. Man of Steel 2. Then eventually, when they've earned it, Justice League.

"BUT-- BUT-- MARVEL HAS THE AVENGERS. WE NEED OUR CASH CO-- I MEAN, OUR FAITHFULLY MADE AND WELL THOUGHT OUT JUSTICE LEAGUE MOVIE." -Warner Bros. Executives.

ProactiveMan
05-18-2016, 10:32 AM
I'm not sure why they feel the need to build an extended universe outside of it being the thing to do now apparently. DC/Warner have always been more interested in directorial style, and it's paid off for them more than once. I suppose it's a risky approach because a dud director can really burn a franchise, and the comic fans get all balled up about the director's interpretation of the character a lot of the time.

In the plus column, they've made some iconic movies, and as good as the Marvel stuff is, I don't think anyone is going to be talking about Winter Soldier in 20 years. 'Which one was Winter Soldier again? Oh yeah, the one that everyone compared to the taught, political thrillers of the 1970s because it had Robert Redford in it. Funny, I don't remember All the President's Men ending in a fifteen-minute fist fight on a metal gantry.'

WB should stick to what they're good at, and leave the other to people who know how to do it.

mrmaczaps
05-18-2016, 10:40 AM
Aw hell. Johns in charge of anything is going to turn to sh¡t. Goodbye DC, at least we had the 80s and 90s...

Redeemer
05-18-2016, 10:55 AM
:lol: The over the top reactions from you guys is hilarious.

I am in the minority of those who enjoyed Batman v Superman

I do have to ask why do you guys hate the DC movies so much??? I am asking bc I didn't think any of them were as awful as others are claiming, but I am not familiar the many of their comic counter parts except for Batman from DC and Spiderman for Marvel and obviously TMNT.
I am curious if some of you are just prejudice towards Marvel as well or if you guys are die-hard DC fans who are simply more familiar with the comics than myself.

So my question is are you guys upset, bc of a poor narrative storyline or with the interpretation of the characters?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-18-2016, 11:05 AM
:lol: The over the top reactions from you guys is hilarious.

I am in the minority of those who enjoyed Batman v Superman

I do have to ask why do you guys hate the DC movies so much??? I am asking bc I didn't think any of them were as awful as others are claiming, but I am not familiar the many of their comic counter parts except for Batman from DC and Spiderman for Marvel and obviously TMNT.
I am curious if some of you are just prejudice towards Marvel as well or if you guys are die-hard DC fans who are simply more familiar with the comics than myself.

So my question is are you guys upset, bc of a poor narrative storyline or with the interpretation of the characters?

I liked Man of Steel and I liked Batman V Superman. But after thinking it over critically, both films have some serious flaws.

Sociopathic Pa Kent is my only problem with the story of Man of Steel.

Batman V Superman had too many flashbacks/visions, the African special bullet stuff was pointless, Eisenberg as Lex Luthor turned out to be a terrible choice, Batman should NOT have been a murdering psychopath who was going to stake Superman like a vampire, and last but not least, "Martha."

Not the worst comic book films, but definitely not up to par or able to compete with Marvel. Still, I'm all in for Wonder Woman and Suicide Squad.

ZariusTwo
05-18-2016, 11:09 AM
I actually think Green Lantern is way better than Guardians of the Galaxy. Sorry/Not Sorry.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-18-2016, 11:12 AM
I actually think Green Lantern is way better than Guardians of the Galaxy. Sorry/Not Sorry.

Okay, NO. Not at all. I'm saying this as a guy who thought Green Lantern didn't deserve all the hate... it's on par with Marvel's poorer movies.

But Guardians of the Galaxy is freaking awesome. Go wash your mouth out with soap and think about what life choices led you to this point. :tsmile:

Redeemer
05-18-2016, 11:23 AM
I liked Man of Steel and I liked Batman V Superman. But after thinking it over critically, both films have some serious flaws.

Sociopathic Pa Kent is my only problem with the story of Man of Steel.

Batman V Superman had too many flashbacks/visions, the African special bullet stuff was pointless, Eisenberg as Lex Luthor turned out to be a terrible choice, Batman should NOT have been a murdering psychopath who was going to stake Superman like a vampire, and last but not least, "Martha."

Not the worst comic book films, but definitely not up to par or able to compete with Marvel. Still, I'm all in for Wonder Woman and Suicide Squad.

I really can't defend the choice of Jesse Eisenberg as Luthor, but I think who ever else played that character would have been just as bad, bc of how they wrote the character.

But as for the Marvel Films I think they are for the most part over-rated especially this new Captain America movie. But I think the Avengers and Iron-man are completely deserving of praise and have set quite a high bar for comic book movies.

Im also with you on the Wonder-Woman and Suicide squad movies. :D

Krutch
05-18-2016, 11:37 AM
Being a DC fanboy, I'm just kind of... numb to all this pain :ohwell:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-18-2016, 11:40 AM
I really can't defend the choice of Jesse Eisenberg as Luthor, but I think who ever else played that character would have been just as bad, bc of how they wrote the character.

They rewrote his portrayal once they chose Eisenberg. That had to have been the case.

Sigh.

plastroncafe
05-18-2016, 11:40 AM
Being a DC fanboy, I'm just kind of... numb to all this pain :ohwell:

http://i.imgur.com/PArGEZw.gif
It's going to be okay.

Krutch
05-18-2016, 11:43 AM
https://animatedmeta.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/inside-out-sad-end-family-hug.gif

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-18-2016, 11:47 AM
Apparently I asked for a group hug on the wrong thread...

ZariusTwo
05-18-2016, 11:49 AM
Okay, NO. Not at all. I'm saying this as a guy who thought Green Lantern didn't deserve all the hate... it's on par with Marvel's poorer movies.

But Guardians of the Galaxy is freaking awesome. Go wash your mouth out with soap and think about what life choices led you to this point. :tsmile:

The filth in my mouth is less poisonous to me than that overrated turd was Mama .:)

Krutch
05-18-2016, 11:49 AM
Apparently I asked for a group hug on the wrong thread...

lol i noticed the same thing.

plastroncafe
05-18-2016, 11:50 AM
http://i.imgur.com/PArGEZw.gif

Just for the two of you.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-18-2016, 11:55 AM
http://i.imgur.com/PArGEZw.gif

Just for the two of you.

I'm now desperately trying to remember the line from Big Hero 6 about hugging a big warm marshmallow or whatever it was.

My son LOVES that movie. (And so do his mommy and daddy.) :tlol:

Darthknuxward
05-18-2016, 11:58 AM
As someone who loves DC more than I love Marvel.... Marvel's just plain doing their films better. Even their lowest movie ( Imo that's Iron Man 3), is still better than DC first film on their DCEU roster, Man of Steel. Hated that movie then and I still do. But BVS was alright, if a bit all over the place. Civil War absolutely blew it out of the water. It was a 9.5/10 movie for me, while BVS was only a 7.5/10. Key point, marvel just does more faithful adaptations of their characters and it pays off, compared to DC wanting to reinvent every character so far. I'll see Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman, but if those two suck, I think I'm just going to give up on the DCEU.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-18-2016, 12:06 PM
As someone who loves DC more than I love Marvel.... Marvel's just plain doing their films better. Even their lowest movie ( Imo that's Iron Man 3), is still better than DC first film on their DCEU roster, Man of Steel. Hated that movie then and I still do. But BVS was alright, if a bit all over the place. Civil War absolutely blew it out of the water. It was a 9.5/10 movie for me, while BVS was only a 7.5/10. Key point, marvel just does more faithful adaptations of their characters and it pays off, compared to DC wanting to reinvent every character so far. I'll see Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman, but if those two suck, I think I'm just going to give up on the DCEU.

Marvel does NOT do more faithful adaptations than DC.

Ultron was completely reinvented as Tony Stark's creation instead of Hank Pym; the Mandarin was a joke, in more ways than one; Drax the Destroyer was originally a human in the comics, not an alien; retconning Wanda and Pietro's parentage (admittedly not the MCU's fault but a necessary evil)...

It's just that Marvel hasn't screwed with the front-line big-name characters, like Cap, Tony, Hulk, Thor, Spidey, etc.

plastroncafe
05-18-2016, 12:25 PM
I'd rather have an adaptation that's more faithful to the spirit of a thing, than the letter of it.

The former gets you Fight Club, the latter gets you Watchmen.

ZariusTwo
05-18-2016, 12:31 PM
retconning Wanda and Pietro's parentage (admittedly not the MCU's fault but a necessary evil)..

And it prompted Marvel to do the exact same thing in the comics.

Krutch
05-18-2016, 12:40 PM
I'd rather have an adaptation that's more faithful to the spirit of a thing, than the letter of it.

The former gets you Fight Club, the latter gets you Watchmen.

Well said.

ToTheNines
05-18-2016, 12:53 PM
As someone who loves DC more than I love Marvel.... Marvel's just plain doing their films better. Even their lowest movie ( Imo that's Iron Man 3), is still better than DC first film on their DCEU roster, Man of Steel. Hated that movie then and I still do. But BVS was alright, if a bit all over the place. Civil War absolutely blew it out of the water. It was a 9.5/10 movie for me, while BVS was only a 7.5/10. Key point, marvel just does more faithful adaptations of their characters and it pays off, compared to DC wanting to reinvent every character so far. I'll see Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman, but if those two suck, I think I'm just going to give up on the DCEU.

I feel very much the same way. WB just infuriates me. Look at what they've put out over the past 20 years...

Batman and Robin (one of the worst movies ever)
Steel (lol)
Catwoman (possibly THE worst movie ever)
The Nolan Trilogy (wildly popular and still mostly holds up)
Superman Returns (weird quasi-sequel to the Donner movies that no one asked for)
Jonah Hex (awful)
Green Lantern (half assed attempt to start a shared universe)
MoS/BvS (Snyderman Begins)

And that's it. A lot of the old Marvel stuff either sucks or hasn't aged well... but they were at least ****ing trying, and learning. DC and WB are still feeling their superhero movie growing pains, while simultaneously trying to desperately ape Marvel's shared universe success.

Bleh.

Spike Spiegel
05-18-2016, 12:57 PM
Why not Bruce Timm or Paul Dini?

plastroncafe
05-18-2016, 12:58 PM
Why not Bruce Timm or Paul Dini?

Because we're terrible people who don't deserve good things.

CyberCubed
05-18-2016, 01:09 PM
DC animation has always been stronger than its movies, that is not a surprise.

Although we're currently at a low with Teen Titans Go being the only DC show currently airing, we had it good for a number of years. The DCAU, (B:TAS, S:TAS, Batman Beyond and Justice League), Teen Titans 2003, Young Justice, Brave and the Bold, etc.

Even the weakest DC cartoons like The Batman or Beware the Batman weren't bad or anything, just a bit hit or miss. The Batman also had a very strong Season 4.

Darthknuxward
05-18-2016, 01:43 PM
Marvel does NOT do more faithful adaptations than DC.

Ultron was completely reinvented as Tony Stark's creation instead of Hank Pym; the Mandarin was a joke, in more ways than one; Drax the Destroyer was originally a human in the comics, not an alien; retconning Wanda and Pietro's parentage (admittedly not the MCU's fault but a necessary evil)...

It's just that Marvel hasn't screwed with the front-line big-name characters, like Cap, Tony, Hulk, Thor, Spidey, etc.

I was talking about the front liners, not all characters in general.

Andrew NDB
05-18-2016, 01:48 PM
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Geoff+Johns+BPi43dBQYBvm.jpg

Why, why does Geoff Johns continue to be rewarded and elevated? His hands were all over Batman V Superman as a producer and CCO working with Snyder and he was a full-on co-producer of the Green Lantern movie with creative veto power over all aspects... never even minding the fact that he's a quantifiable hack writer that can't write a single comic book without going through a checklist of personal things he wants to retcon about a character (sometimes even retconning his own retcons), 15 splash and double-splash pages in every one, events cliffhangering into cliffhangers into perpetuity. He should be going down with the goddamn burning ship (if not Green Lantern, then certainly BvS), not now being given command of a fleet! And co-writing The Batman with Affleck too? What the f*ck is wrong with WB?

Andrew NDB
05-18-2016, 01:54 PM
Marvel does NOT do more faithful adaptations than DC.

No, they just do more adaptations period. Though for every Ultron minor shuffle, there's much larger things like... you know... Catwoman is Selina Kyle, a normal cat burglar, but on-screen for her titular DC movie she's Patience Price, a mutant with superpowers.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
05-18-2016, 01:58 PM
No, they just do more adaptations period. Though for every Ultron minor shuffle, there's much larger things like... you know... Catwoman is Selina Kyle, a normal cat burglar, but on-screen for her titular DC movie she's Patience Price, a mutant with superpowers.

There has never been a standalone Catwoman movie. Halle Berry who? I don't know what you're talking about. :tlol:

Seriously, BURN ALL RECORDS. We must speak no more of this unseemly thing. Like Crazy Aunt Gertrude, it must be longed in an abandoned wing of the mansion and never again seen, heard, or mentioned.

snake
05-18-2016, 04:53 PM
I'm mostly a DC dude too. But both companies are so bad with their current output in the comic area.

TheSkeletonMan939
05-18-2016, 04:58 PM
Why not Bruce Timm or Paul Dini?

Simple: they're more comfortable in the realm of animation.

CyberCubed
05-18-2016, 05:34 PM
Has Bruce Timm ever directed any live-action? I don't think he did.

Spike Spiegel
05-19-2016, 12:56 AM
Simple: they're more comfortable in the realm of animation.

Perhaps, but that never stopped Dini from moving to video games for the first two installments of the Arkham series.

Chris
05-20-2016, 06:59 PM
Yeah when people say Dini & Timm I don't think anyone expects them to direct anything, they just want their voices in the writers room, helping to craft the stories and characters. Same for Morrison & Waid, we just need people who really get these characters involved in the creative process.

I know people are mixed on Johns but he's certainly a big step in the right direction from Snyder.

Krutch
05-20-2016, 09:37 PM
I've always enjoyed Kurt Busiek's work, too. I wouldn't mind putting him on the DC Cinema team.