Emojimovie: Express Yourself Discussion

[retr0pia75]

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/697071-sony-pictures-animation-reveals-2017-2018-slate-including-the-emoji-movie-title
Ever since the catastrophic hack in 2014, Sony Pictures has pretty much become the butt of the joke of the entire film industry. And if the topic of this thread is anything to go by, they're about to become an even bigger one.
The film is set to be a "surprising and comic take on the secret world of our phones and the beloved characters that have become daily necessities in global interpersonal communication". Normally, I tend not to judge films by their premise alone, but honestly, this seems to be nothing more than a cheap cash grab. I mean, Genndy Tartakovsky's Popeye movie wasn't good enough, but this was? WTF?
But on the bright side...at least it's not Sausage Party.

[Wildcat]

I don't see what's so wrong with this. Using emojis as characters makes sense. Probably a comedy based around the internet. Look at Wreck It Ralph 2.

[retr0pia75]

I don't see what's so wrong with this. Using emojis as characters makes sense. Probably a comedy based around the internet. Look at Wreck It Ralph 2.
That's true, but with WIR 2 they're basing it around the internet because they have a legitimately good idea for it. With Emoji, there's not much you can do with them, especially since the closest thing that defines them as characters is their appearance.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'd much rather watch Sausage Party than a movie about emojis.

Sony executives are seriously tripping bad, yo.

[retr0pia75]

I'd much rather watch Sausage Party than a movie about emojis.

Sony executives are seriously tripping bad, yo.
Tell me about it. I honestly don't see SP lasting into the end of the next decade at this point.
At the very least, Emoji won't be another painfully unfunny Seth Rogen vehicle.

[Wildcat]

Have they even released the official plot for Wreck It Ralph 2? I thought the latest news was it was an internet adventure. That was pretty much it so far.

There's probably a lot of things you could do with emojis. There's literally one for every emotion. That's a ton of characters . Not that they should use them all. Just saying.

The plot for this says Emojis want to leave their apps and travel to different places, in cyberspace I assume. Sounds pretty much as expected. Still don't see what so bad about it.

[snake]

If it's an internet adventure I hope they visit /tv/

[The Deadman]

Have they even released the official plot for Wreck It Ralph 2? I thought the latest news was it was an internet adventure. That was pretty much it so far.

There's probably a lot of things you could do with emojis. There's literally one for every emotion. That's a ton of characters . Not that they should use them all. Just saying.

The plot for this says Emojis want to leave their apps and travel to different places, in cyberspace I assume. Sounds pretty much as expected. Still don't see what so bad about it.

There's no shark emoji.

[Powder]

It's funny, we spent years bitching about how Hollywood mostly pumped out reboots & kinda lulled on original content. Now they're back to doing new stuff & it's just absolutely abysmal. Bring on the reboots. :tlol:

[TMNTInsighter]

They need to surprise us as much as "The Social Network" did.

[Aaronardo]

These are the people Nintendo's thinking about giving the rights to make a Mario movie to? Dear god.

I mean, I've used emojis. Mostly because I have this weird thing where if I use a period at the end of a sentence and nothing else it'll come off as rude, but I've never looked at a f*cking emoji and said, "hey, this could be a great movie." And it won't be. It just won't.

I love their quote at the beginning. "[Sony Pictures Animation is] meaningfully stepping up our level of production, while creating an environment that fosters the best talent." If your way of doing that is by making a movie about Emojis just to appeal to the hip kids of today, then clearly, you're talent-ing wrong.

[retr0pia75]

These are the people Nintendo's thinking about giving the rights to make a Mario movie to? Dear god.

I mean, I've used emojis. Mostly because I have this weird thing where if I use a period at the end of a sentence and nothing else it'll come off as rude, but I've never looked at a f*cking emoji and said, "hey, this could be a great movie." And it won't be. It just won't.

I love their quote at the beginning. "[Sony Pictures Animation is] meaningfully stepping up our level of production, while creating an environment that fosters the best talent." If your way of doing that is by making a movie about Emojis just to appeal to the hip kids of today, then clearly, you're talent-ing wrong.
Sony is most likely no longer involved with that potential Mario movie. They weren't mentioned whatsoever when Nintendo announced their intentions to start making films again.

[retr0pia75]

They've announced who's going to be playing the lead character:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFv5bgIOlg4

[retr0pia75]

http://www.vulture.com/2016/10/get-a-first-look-at-the-emoji-movie-emojimovie.html
There's actually going to be a Poop emoji character.
Never change, Sony Pictures (although you seriously need to).

[Andrew NDB]

The rainbow/mood bandannaed Turtles should go be in this. They can express themselves.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Where's TigerClaw? Shouldn't he be the only human being on earth excited for this sorry excuse for a film?

Get to shilling, TC. Pay the rent.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

How does one fail at life so much to come up with the idea of making a movie about emoticons?

[retr0pia75]

How does one fail at life so much to come up with the idea of making a movie about emoticons?

The film business can be spectacular, but it's got a dark, coporate side to it as well. I can't say that I'm surprised at the fact that they thought this was good enough to spark a freaking bidding war, but at the same time...I kind of am.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I would have loved to have participated in the bidding war for this film, but only to make the other movie companies force themselves to bid more and more for it.

[The Deadman]

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[DestronMirage22]

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Ugh. Is it wrong I want this movie to bomb so tremendously it kills Sony?

[TigerClaw]

Ugh. Is it wrong I want this movie to bomb so tremendously it kills Sony?
We gotta give this the benefit of the doubt, cause nobody thought idea of a Lego movie was gonna be good, and that turned out really well, So we'll have to wait and see how this one is like by 2nd trailer eventually.

The teaser managed to sneak in a poop joke.

[DestronMirage22]

We gotta give this the benefit of the doubt, cause nobody thought idea of a Lego movie was gonna be good, and that turned out really well, So we'll have to wait and see how this one is like by 2nd trailer eventually.

The teaser managed to sneak in a poop joke.

The Lego Movie's trailer was good. :lol:

[Jester]

This movie looks like http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2714370/images/o-POOP-EMOJI-ICE-CREAM-facebook.jpg

[TigerClaw]

This movie looks like http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2714370/images/o-POOP-EMOJI-ICE-CREAM-facebook.jpg
Considering that is one of the characters shown in the trailer.

[Venom]

Do people really find TJ Miller funny? I can't stand the guy, going all the way back to his incessant chattering in Cloverfield!

[IndigoErth]

... wut.

I was going to joke that they must have been envious that someone turned an app game (Angry Birds) into a movie, but never mind... it's from a sister studio within Sony. Should have guessed.

Sony must be running low on ideas. Or trying too hard to be different and set themselves apart.


Using the "meh" character to announce it doesn't exactly share any enthusiasm for their own film... who came up with that.

[Jester]

Do people really find TJ Miller funny? I can't stand the guy, going all the way back to his incessant chattering in Cloverfield!
Ain't terrible in Deadpool.

[Utrommaniac]

By Jove, the amount of dislikes on the bar...

[Cure]

Ugh. Is it wrong I want this movie to bomb so tremendously it kills Sony?

Yes, it is.

[Powder]

Do people really find TJ Miller funny? I can't stand the guy, going all the way back to his incessant chattering in Cloverfield!

Dunno about "people" but I can't stand the guy.

[retr0pia75]

Aaaand the big joke of the teaser is a crap reference. What an excellent start!

[Autbot_Benz]

I wish I was making this up but Patrick Stewart ( Picard + professor X) is voicing the Poop Emoji In this movie

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Wow... that must have been a big paycheck.

[Jester]

I wish I was making this up but Patrick Stewart ( Picard + professor X) is voicing the Poop Emoji In this movie

Seriously...and I thought American Dad! was the low point for him.

Edit: I know it's not the most reliable source, but IMDB lists Tom Kane, the replacement for Frank Oz as Yoda.

[Autbot_Benz]

Seriously...and I thought American Dad! was the low point for him.

Edit: I know it's not the most reliable source, but IMDB lists Tom Kane, the replacement for Frank Oz as Yoda.

Sony Pictures Verified account
‏@SonyPictures

He ain’t no 🎉💩! So excited to announce the distinguished @SirPatStew as Poop in the #EmojiMovie – in theaters August 4th! #SonyAnimationDay

[Jester]

Great...now Picard is Number Two. *sigh*

Trust...but verify...then facepalm.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y132/Jesterangelo/tmp_7097-Screenshot_2017-01-18-14-04-38-1165302539.png (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/Jesterangelo/media/tmp_7097-Screenshot_2017-01-18-14-04-38-1165302539.png.html)

[TigerClaw]

Reviews for the The Emoji Movie are coming in, and its not looking good, it currently has a 0% on Rotten Tomatoes, with only 17 Rotten reviews.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_emoji_movie

[sdp]

I have no problem with this movie existing unlike the internet does and while I doubt I'll like it, I don't think it'll be much worse than say Despicable me 3 which I just saw.

[Shark_Blade]

Reviews for the The Emoji Movie are coming in, and its not looking good, it currently has a 0% on Rotten Tomatoes, with only 17 Rotten reviews.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_emoji_movie

Amazing. I hope it flops hard.

[TigerClaw]

Amazing. I hope it flops hard.
Its still 0% with 21 Rotten 0 Fresh reviews.

[Vegita-San]

sony cancelled THIS

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for this movie....how are they still a company?

[sdp]

I doubt the emoji movie will flop, it should at least recover the investment at the worst. People love emoji. Popeye would've flopped badly, no one cares to see Popeye.

[CyberCubed]

Kids in the modern year have no idea who Popeye is.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I thought the emoji movie was gonna get mixed reviews, but 0% rating? damn.

[Utrommaniac]

And yet they also know who the Smurfs are thanks to the recent movies? I think the same principle could be applied to Popeye. Who would have appealed to older audiences as well, especially the "kids these days!" groups.

[Jester]

Kids in the modern year have no idea who Popeye is.
My 5 year old loves Popeye.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

To me, it seems Popeye is known by the general public of all ages like Pink Panther or something while Smurfs is generally known more by those who grew up with in the 80s, it does have have a more dedicated fanbase unlike Popeye though.

[sdp]

I barely know who Popeye and Pink Panther are from a few re-runs but they weren't really popular characters in the 90s either, so when was the last time either of those franchises was relevant? The 80s?

Jester probably introduced Popeye to his son which is why he likes it but besides that I doubt most kids today or even millenials care. I'm sure we can all recognize who he is but that doesn't mean there is interest.

[CyberCubed]

Kids these days my know them as "icons" but not characters.

Do these shows even air on TV anymore? Even most 90's cartoons are unknown to today's kids besides ones based on popular superheroes. What kid of today knows about Swat Kats or Pirates of Dark Water? Or any of those 90's Nick or Disney shows?

[sdp]

I'd say there's more awareness now because of the internet which we didn't have in the 90s, at least not in the way we do now. Especially since many youtubers influence the younger generation are 80s/90s kids and they make videos and memes about old shows which some of the newer generations research on.

But yeah that "icons" thing is true, I mean to me I knew of a bunch of "icons" even if I never saw anything from them.

[CyberCubed]

I think kids would only recognize stuff that has repeated reboots, like Scooby Doo, the DC or Marvel superheroes, TMNT, maybe Looney Tunes if we're pushing it. Because they're always around in some form.

Do kids of today know about Gargoyles, a show from 1995? I think not.

[Utrommaniac]

It's on Disney's free streaming the last time I checked. I'm sure at least someone's kids have seen them. But Disney is pretty bad with even getting DVDs out and the follow-up comic was discontinued ( :x ), so unless they get themselves together and do some kind of reintroduction, I think it's been put to stone for now...8)

[drgon78]

It saddens me the Emoji movie even got made let alone loosing a Popeye animated movie as well.

[ZariusTwo]

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[RaphaelinSTL]

Its still 0% with 21 Rotten 0 Fresh reviews.

Still going strong in the flop territory ... now with 27 rotten reviews.

Plus ... omg look at the critical consensus.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_emoji_movie/

[The Deadman]

Kids in the modern year have no idea who Popeye is.

No, you probably dont know who Popeye is.

[TigerClaw]

Still going strong in the flop territory ... now with 27 rotten reviews.

Plus ... omg look at the critical consensus.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_emoji_movie/
The 1 positive review doesn't sound positive at all.
Positive messages, but colorful adventure is only "meh."

[CyberCubed]

No, you probably dont know who Popeye is.

I know who Popeye is, only because I was a kid in the 90's and Cartoon Network used to air all the old classic cartoons all the time. Same reason I saw all of Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry, Flintstones, Jetsons, and the original Scooby Doo as a kid.

[Vegita-San]

even if they don't know who popeye is, it shouldn't matter.

so long as the movie is good, and they have good parents who introduce them to the original stuff, he'll gain a whole new fan base.


however, if a kids movie looks bad, like emoji, even kids will be smart enough to avoid it and go see something else. unlike some of us dumb adults who might check it out in the hopes there is SOMETHING salvageable in it just to waste two hours.

[CyberCubed]

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11/114183/5200265-popeye-the-sailor-man.jpg

"That's all I cans stands and I can't stands no more!"

"I y'am what I y'am!"

[TigerClaw]

The Emoji Movie is #1 at the box office as of Friday, Dunkirk at #2, Atomic Blonde at #3, Girl Trip at #4, and Spider-Man: Homecoming at #5.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/

Its 6% on Rotten Tomatoes, I have a feeling due to it receiving such bad reviews, people are curious about it and went to see it, its also a Kids movie, so the parents were probably forced by there kids to see it.

[GoldMutant]

No cuck emoji= no watch.
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I don't think this film is going to last long. Give it another week and it'll drop badly box office wise, least I hope so.

[sdp]

It got the #1 spot because people love emojis and so do kids. It also got such a terrible Rotten Tomato score because the modern "movie critics" are just elitist pricks who think they know what's good or not because of superfluous reasons

I'm not saying it's a good movie, I doubt it is but I also don't think it's the worst movie of the year or deserving of that rating, it's likely just a mediocre kids movie not unlike despicable me 3.

even if they don't know who popeye is, it shouldn't matter.

so long as the movie is good, and they have good parents who introduce them to the original stuff, he'll gain a whole new fan base.


however, if a kids movie looks bad, like emoji, even kids will be smart enough to avoid it and go see something else. unlike some of us dumb adults who might check it out in the hopes there is SOMETHING salvageable in it just to waste two hours.

Kids are not interested in being introduced to the original stuff. You're right that it doesn't matter if they know or don't know who Popeye is but it can't only be good. Tons of great stuff is overlooked all the time.

It just has to be able to re-invent itself and become appealing to newer generations. Look at franchises like TMNT that have been able to do what others like He-Man haven't.

Sadly Popeye is just not a concept that translates itself very well to newer generations, I'm not saying it's impossible but it's definitely difficult.

[Vegita-San]

Popeye is literally the worlds first modern super hero, even a little before superman I think.

no matter how old it is, it shouldn't be hard to relate too if done right. so long as they don't have him quoting spice girl songs and saying 'bruh'...

[Utrommaniac]

Spice Girls aren't really a thing anymore though? And haven't been for years?

[sdp]

Spice Girls haven't been cool since 1999, Vegita is just really out of touch and not only with still thinking Popeye is still cool :lol:

[Vegita-San]

i was thinking of muppets in space and rizzo......admittedly not the most modern reference....

[Utrommaniac]

Yeah, that came out in 1999, so...right when Spice Girls were getting out of being "cool".

I can see Popeye saying "Bruh", though. Especially since his entire persona is "you messin' with my girl! come at me, bruh!"

[CyberCubed]

Shows like Spongebob basically replaced all the original classic WB or Disney shows from the 90's and prior. That's why we don't see old shows come back anymore.

[ZariusTwo]

Yeah, that came out in 1999, so...right when Spice Girls were getting out of being "cool".

To be fair, Geri had left the year before. The group couldn't really cut it without her.

They're still considered national treasures in Britain.

[TigerClaw]

And the results are in.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

1. Dunkirk = $28,130,000
2. The Emoji Movie = $25,650,000
3. Girl Trip = $20,085,540
4. Atomic Blonde = $18,554,000
5. Spider-Man: Homecoming = $13,450,000

The Emoji Movie now has a 7% on Rotten Tomatoes, and the Audience Score is at 46%

Looks like this movie has an audience for it, but its a kids movie, so there's that.

[Coola Yagami]

To be fair, they made a friggin Sherman and Mr. Peabody movie.... and what kids really knew who the Chipmunks and Smurfs were until the newer movies came out. They shoulda gone with Popeye and it would have introduced him to a whole new audience and generation of fans and possibly gotten a new cartoon show out of the deal. They made a friggin PEANUTS movie. What kid is gonna know or care who Charlie Brown is. Noone reads the comic strips anymore and kids don't care about Christmas special unless Spongebob is in it.

That's the problem with Hollywood these days. No balls. No risks. They decided since everyone use emojis on their phones, of course a movie about it gonna make tons of cash with modern kids and millennials. They thought wrong. But they thought Popeye, who might not have been a masterpiece, but obviously woulda made more money, was too much or a risk or gamble.

[Utrommaniac]

The Peabody and Sherman movie was even a little "okay", and even tried for at least a little historical accuracy by making Tutankhamun a child. They get huge points for that, and even for replicating Sherman's adoption, though aging him up quite a lot.

Although a lot of the shorts probably aren't going to fix a lot of the attention spans of modern kids, the revival movies still manage to get them just enough. But then there's the biggest thing of all:

Kids. Grow. Up. And when these kids grow up, they will get nostalgia for those movies when they grow up. And when they decide to re-watch those movies, they'll say "hey, let's check out the original source material now that we're older and have the attention span for them."

For instance, Space Jam was one of my Looney Toons intros. I don't really have a lot of memory of watching full shorts before then, but I knew they were separate entities. I decided I liked the coyote. So I watched the Roadrunner shorts on VHS...a lot.

I think revival movies play the long game, but should still be effective for the most part.

[CyberCubed]

Kids these days don't even know who The Flintstones are. Can you believe your average kid today has no idea who Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble are?

So of course they're not going to care about old stuff.

[Candy Kappa]

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Sounds like a great experience...

[GoldMutant]

Kids these days don't even know who The Flintstones are. Can you believe your average kid today has no idea who Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble are?

So of course they're not going to care about old stuff.

Considering they're on the covers of the Pebbles cereal with commercials and there was a WWE crossover two years ago on DTV, I'm sure some kids will know them.

[Utrommaniac]

I've said this before, but I'm fine if my kids don't know who the Flintstones are, at least while they're tiny.

[CyberCubed]

Considering they're on the covers of the Pebbles cereal with commercials and there was a WWE crossover two years ago on DTV, I'm sure some kids will know them.

Yeah, they know them as cereal mascots like Tucan Sam from Froot Loops or Tony the Tiger from Frosted Flakes, but not as an actual series that went on over 100 episodes and had tons of spinoffs and reboots over the years.

[Vegita-San]

Amy Pascal strikes again.

so basically they wanted popeye saying 'bruh', singing taylor swift songs, and doing any number of things that would make him super shallow by modernizing him.

ugh.
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[snake]

https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2017/08/03/cops-hunt-emoji-movie-masturbator/amp/

Which one of you was this?

[ZariusTwo]

Pee Wee's at it again