Disney making live-action remake of 'The Little Mermaid'

[ranger_scout]

Since Disney live-action remakes have been a huge hit, this was bound to happen at some point. Back in May 2016, it was reported that Disney was considering making a live-action remake of The Little Mermaid.

http://deadline.com/2016/05/disney-mulling-the-little-mermaid-live-action-version-1201762354/

Today, it was announced that the film's original composer Alan Menken would be teaming up with Lin-Manual Miranda (Moana, Hamilton) to write songs for the film. Miranda will also be producing the film alongside Marc Platt (Into the Woods, Mary Poppins Returns).

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/08/16/little-mermaid-lin-manuel-miranda-alan-menken

I'm anxious to see the underwater special effects. Plus, I think Jodi Benson should play Queen Athena, Ariel's mother from the 2008 prequel.

[AT-Man]

Friggin' finally!

[plastroncafe]

Disney is moving forward expansively with its live-action slate in general. In April it dated a number of films in addition to Alice Through the Looking Glass (May 27), Beauty And The Beast (March 17, 2017), as well as this summer’s Pete’s Dragon (August 12). The slate includes Cruella with Emma Stone set for the title role and Kelly Marcel writing; A Wrinkle In Time with Ava DuVernay attached to direct and Jennifer Lee writing; Jungle Cruise with Dwayne Johnson set to star and John Requa and Glenn Ficarra writing; Dumbo with director Tim Burton and writer Ehren Kruger; and a sequel to Mary Poppins with director Rob Marshall, starring Emily Blunt and Lin-Manuel Miranda. - fta

Woah.

[Commenter 42]

Tim Burtons Dumbo?

**** off!!!!!!!!!

Burtons movies:

https://thatwoman.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/black-and-white.gif

then some weird hair...

Helena Bonham Carter,

You know the rest.

Just let him make his Edgar Allan Poe biopic already. It's all he wants.

[plastroncafe]

But think of how awesome Burton's "Pink Elephants" will look.

[Commenter 42]

But think of how awesome Burton's "Pink Elephants" will look.

Played by Johnny Dep?

Do not want!!!!

[Andrew NDB]

About the only thing of interest to me with Burton's name attached to it over the past few years has been Beetlejuice II. But now it doesn't seem like that's happening.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

So... will Depp play Dumbo? I mean, it's be offensive if Helena played Dumbo.

BREAKING NEWS:

Johnny Depp to play Dumbo.

Nothing makes sense anymore.

[Commenter 42]

So... will Depp play Dumbo? I mean, it's be offensive if Helena played Dumbo.

BREAKING NEWS:

Johnny Depp to play Dumbo.

Nothing makes sense anymore.

Hahahhaaha.

I don't even care, really, except that, I really want the zeitgeist to move on.
It's been 20 years of weird fetishistic (<real word or made up?) re-imaginings.

We can stop now. Time for new blood.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Hahahhaaha.

I don't even care, really, except that, I really want the zeitgeist to move on.
It's been 20 years of weird fetishistic (<real word or made up?) re-imaginings.

We can stop now. Time for new blood.

When was the last time anyone took Tim Burton seriously?

Frankenweenie? Dark Shadows? Alice in Wonderland? Edward Scissorhands?

[Commenter 42]

When was the last time anyone took Tim Burton seriously?

Frankenweenie? Dark Shadows? Alice in Wonderland? Edward Scissorhands?

Apparently Disney still does, and they're vote is all that matters...

Remaking Dumbo is a terrible idea.


Creeeeeeeeeeeepy:

I had no idea...

Irlpvtwu1Rs

Everything is corrupt.

[Andrew NDB]

When was the last time anyone took Tim Burton seriously?

Frankenweenie? Dark Shadows? Alice in Wonderland? Edward Scissorhands?

Somewhere around Sleepy Hollow and/or Big Fish.

[Raph's Girl]

Hopefully these remakes are based on the original material...
Little Mermaid: Ariel/Serena dies and becomes a wind goddess to earn a soul to get into heaven.
Mulan: There's been tons of live action adaptions about her. Meh
Dumbo: Got runned over by a train in Canada supposadly trying to save another elephant
Winnie the Pooh: There was an awesome Canadian made film about her life already...meh. I think there's also a movie about Christopher Robin Milne coming out too.

[AT-Man]

Dumbo: Got runned over by a train in Canada supposadly trying to save another elephant

What?! NO!!! I would boycott that movie so hard.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I wonder if they'll do a new version of some of classic songs such as "Under the Sea" and "Part of your World" like they did in the Jungle Book

[Wildcat]

The underwater scenes could be great looking.

Now lets have someone complain about CGI and how it should be filmed in a giant tank of water :lol:

[Shark_Blade]

Finally live action Ariel with red hair!

Sorry Chloe Grace Moretz, your blonde mermaid can stuff it.

[Commenter 42]

Finally live action Ariel with red hair!

Sorry Chloe Grace Moretz, your blonde mermaid can stuff it.

Isn't Moretz playing Ariel?

[Shark_Blade]

I kinda wish they just CGI the animated cartoon. Kinda like what Kingdom Hearts 2 did but Pixar quality CGI.

-5Y-j-Sa-Ss

But ah well, live action then.Isn't Moretz playing Ariel?

For the Non-Disney version of mermaid film.

[ProactiveMan]

Tim Burtons Dumbo?

**** off!!!!!!!!!

Burtons movies:

https://thatwoman.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/black-and-white.gif

then some weird hair...

Helena Bonham Carter,

You know the rest.

Just let him make his Edgar Allan Poe biopic already. It's all he wants.

I think HBC has gone the way of Lisa Marie.

[drgon78]

It really depends on who they get for Ariel and the rest of the cast because this one is one I will be very picky about.

[Krutch]

Modern Burton movies are awful. I mean, I guess Big Eyes was alright but boring.

[ranger_scout]

Alan Menken said that originally the film was supposed to happen before the live-action remake of Aladdin. However, since the producer Marc Platt and Menken's co-songwriter Lin Manuel Miranda are working on Mary Poppins Returns, he shifted focus to Aladdin.

And up next is a live-action Little Mermaid?

But first is a live-action Aladdin, most people don’t know that. First there was a live-action Little Mermaid, but both the producer and my collaborator on that, Lin-Manuel Miranda, are working on Mary Poppins in London, so Aladdin has now jumped ahead of it and that’s what I’m in the thick of now.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7825906/alan-menken-interview-songwriters-hall-of-fame

[Utrommaniac]

I guess you could say Aladdin is...One Jump Ahead?

[ranger_scout]

Rob Marshall (Into the Woods & Mary Poppins Returns) is the top choice to direct the film. He'll have time over the holidays to make a decision.

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/907581-rob-marshall-is-disneys-top-choice-to-direct-live-action-little-mermaid

[Shark_Blade]

I've been thinking about this live action film a lot lately. Particularly after watching Justice League, there was a female guardian under the sea who interacted with Aquaman. Can't remember who she was but her red hair was flowing so beautifully in the water, I kept thinking that could be Ariel if done right. :tlove:

[ProphetofGanja]

You mean Amber Heard as Mera?

[Shark_Blade]

Yeah that's her, I had to google it lol.

[NinjaPug]

Rob Marshall (Into the Woods & Mary Poppins Returns) is the top choice to direct the film. He'll have time over the holidays to make a decision.

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/907581-rob-marshall-is-disneys-top-choice-to-direct-live-action-little-mermaid

Ugh. Stop giving Rob Marshall work.

[ranger_scout]

Ugh. Stop giving Rob Marshall work.

Why? I thoroughly enjoyed Into the Woods and his 1999 version Annie was IMHO superior to the 1982 film. I really think it would be great if Meryl Streep played Ursula. Also, Lily James, who is playing the younger version of Streep's character in the sequel to Mamma Mia!, could portray Vanessa, Ursula's alter-ego.

[NinjaPug]

Why? I thoroughly enjoyed Into the Woods and his 1999 version Annie was IMHO superior to the 1982 film. I really think it would be great if Meryl Streep played Ursula. Also, Lily James, who is playing the younger version of Streep's character in the sequel to Mamma Mia!, could portray Vanessa, Ursula's alter-ego.

Most of my ire for Marshall comes from Into the Woods. I hate how he stages scenes (esp in ITW) and everything he directs just seems hollow to me. Feels like his directing style is simple and that he's just going through the motions and checking off the required boxes when framing scenes.

I think Chicago is his best work and he think he did a good job with that.

[ranger_scout]

It appears that Rob Marshall is set to direct the film.

https://screenrant.com/little-mermaid-director-rob-marshall/

[ranger_scout]

I was there yesterday when this was discussed. It really would be amazing if it really does happen!

Hot #FXD2018 scoop: according to @thejodibenson, may be making an appearance in the live action Little Mermaid!!

https://twitter.com/FANEXPODallas/status/982769366625222661

[drgon78]

I am more worried they will screw this one up.

[Shark_Blade]

I’m more concerned on are they gonna keep the clamshell bras or are those gonna look awkward in real life?

[CyberCubed]

Also considering Ariel is 16 years old, I wonder if they can even get away with putting a clamshell bra on a real life teenager during the movie. Granted they usually have 20 year old actors play teenagers so the real life actress will be of age, but it'll still seem weird.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Also considering Ariel is 16 years old, I wonder if they can even get away with putting a clamshell bra on a real life teenager during the movie. Granted they usually have 20 year old actors play teenagers so the real life actress will be of age, but it'll still seem weird.

Man, you're actually right. Times have changed from when a 16 year old getting married was acceptable, so I am definetly positive that Ariel's age will be changed in the reboot.

[CyberCubed]

Man, you're actually right. Times have changed from when a 16 year old getting married was acceptable, so I am definetly positive that Ariel's age will be changed in the reboot.

LOL, even in 1989 a 16 year old running off to get married was a bit odd even if it is legal in many states in the U.S.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

LOL, even in 1989 a 16 year old running off to get married was a bit odd even if it is legal in many states in the U.S.

True, but atleast back then people wouldn't throw the sexism and misogny hammers around. Nowdays With articles like these, I fear what changes are gonna be made to the reboot :lol:

https://storify.com/jordygrewal/misogyny-and-patriarchy-in-the-little-mermaid

[CyberCubed]

Not to mention Ariel falls in love with Eric just based on his looks. I mean she's lucky he turned out to be such a nice guy and a hero, but for all she knew he could have been a pirate or a jerk or wife beater or something. I mean it's a kids movie after all, but the whole "love at first sight" doesn't really work in 2018. :lol:

[newfan]

That's Princess fairy tales (love at first sight etc) I was watching The Little Mermaid last night with my daughter and thinking about her age too. Wasn't Aroura 16 also. Different times though, 16 in older times (by which I mean before TLM in the 80s :)) is not the same as now.

I heard this movie was going to be based on the original story and not the movie (this was likely mentioned already,sorry should have read all the thread first)

[CyberCubed]

In the original Little Mermaid fairy tale, Ariel dies and turns to foam as the prince goes off. That would be too depressing an ending for a Disney live-action adaption.

[newfan]

In the original Little Mermaid fairy tale, Ariel dies and turns to foam as the prince goes off. That would be too depressing an ending for a Disney live-action adaption.

what? Oh, hopefully not then. :lol:

Edit: So doing some reading since I can see it's a completely different story to the animated movie but apparently only loosely based on the original story.

[turtle1237]

In the original Little Mermaid fairy tale, Ariel dies and turns to foam as the prince goes off. That would be too depressing an ending for a Disney live-action adaption.

Well most of the "fairy" tales that Disney animates does have a tragic tale to it, only for them to spin it around and make everything happy.

I would LOVE to see a Little Mermaid movie that is faithful to how Hans Christian Andersen had writing it. I feel if Andersen was still alive today he may be disappointed with Disney's 1989 movie. (I think I got the year right)

[Coola Yagami]

Well most of the "fairy" tales that Disney animates does have a tragic tale to it, only for them to spin it around and make everything happy.

I would LOVE to see a Little Mermaid movie that is faithful to how Hans Christian Andersen had writing it. I feel if Andersen was still alive today he may be disappointed with Disney's 1989 movie. (I think I got the year right)

And add an extra talking and singing animal or creature of sorts making them an all out character.

[Shark_Blade]

I mean if Ariel looks like this I wouldn’t complain..

UwK_eaL7x-c

[newfan]

She's not even going to called Ariel, Elizabeth isn't it?

Edit since posting this: Confused with another movie of the same title, ignore me.

[sdp]

Will they even let live action Ariel wear a shell bikini?

Sounds like something Disney would not want counting they banned midriffs in star wars and Jazmine's original outfit. But how else would they do a mermaid?

And why would they change her name to Elizabeth? That's even dumber

[NinjaPug]

Some of you are confusing Disney's live action Little Mermaid movie with another movie with the same name from a different studio. Of course she'll be called Ariel in the Disney movie.

[newfan]

Some of you are confusing Disney's live action Little Mermaid movie with another movie with the same name from a different studio. Of course she'll be called Ariel in the Disney movie.

I think it was just me, okay now I'm less confused, deleting last post.

[CyberCubed]

Who plays Ariel in the Disney movie?

[AT-Man]

I think they should genderswap and make it The Little Merboy.

[Allio]

Only if the merboy is Arlong from One Piece

[ranger_scout]

There's a rumor that Disney has offered the role of Ariel to Zendaya.

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2456200/does-disneys-live-action-little-mermaid-movie-want-zendaya-for-the-lead

She wasn't at the top of my list for who I wanted to play the part, but she might do well. Should this happen, maybe they will have Zac Efron play Prince Eric since the two of them had great chemistry in The Greatest Showman.

[Shark_Blade]

I dunno how to feel about this. But eh I’m okay with it I guess, could’ve been worse.

Still not official tho.

https://i.imgur.com/1WtwH57.jpg

Sea shell bras are back in style.

[drgon78]

I hope to god that is not true.:x

[sdp]

That's not real, looks shopped.

[Andrew NDB]

It's clearly a Photoshop. C'mon, people.

[turtle1237]

Well in the old sailor tales of Mermaids, they were mostly topless lol.
I am not sure how a live action little Mermaid would turn out. I guess I just see how it goes I suppose.

[Shark_Blade]

Of course it’s photoshop, it’s still rumour now people. :trolleye:

Nothing is official yet.

[drgon78]

I know the picture is fake, but the rumor about casting could still be true. While they struck lightning with the Beauty and the Beast casting I also know that the talent pool for young actresses is not all that great in this day and age. Also it doesn't help that the Little Mermaid is my favorite Disney animated movie and I am going to be much more particular about what they are doing with the live action version. I do not have high hopes for this one.

[Leonardo_thebest]

This is a perfect opportunity for a trans actor to get their break.

[Chris]

Rumour could be true, but we might not know for ages. Look how long it took them to announce Will Smith as Genie.

I’d be happy with Zendaya. Honestly, I was hoping they’d go with an unknown and find another Sierra Boggess like they did for Broadway (god, her voice was amazing). At least Zendaya can sing, that’s a step up from Emma Watson in Beauty and the Beast. Yes, she did ok, but they should have got an unknown who could really sing for the role. They need to learn these film’s are bigger than the stars, they don’t need big names to sell them. Aladdin looks like they learned that, yeah they cast Will Smith but everyone else are pretty much unknowns or at least not big names.

Hopefully this opens the door for Norm Lewis to be Triton!

[ranger_scout]

I’d be happy with Zendaya. Honestly, I was hoping they’d go with an unknown and find another Sierra Boggess like they did for Broadway (god, her voice was amazing). At least Zendaya can sing, that’s a step up from Emma Watson in Beauty and the Beast. Yes, she did ok, but they should have got an unknown who could really sing for the role. They need to learn these film’s are bigger than the stars, they don’t need big names to sell them. Aladdin looks like they learned that, yeah they cast Will Smith but everyone else are pretty much unknowns or at least not big names.



Disney originally courted Emma Watson to play Cinderella, but she turned the role down. Lily James, who ended up getting the part, wasn't really well-known in the world of cinema at all. At the time, she was best known for her role as Lady Rose in the TV show Downton Abbey. After Cinderella, she went on to star in the critically and commercially successful films, Baby Driver, Darkest Hour and Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again.

Naomi Scott, who's going to be Jasmine in Aladdin, wasn't a big name either. Even though Power Rangers wasn't a big success, it was still playing in theaters around the time she auditioned the part. Liu Yifei, who will be playing the titular character in Mulan, is more well-known in her home country of China than she is in North America and the U.K.

[Chris]

Yeah, I know the history. Tbh it makes it read even more like an exec just wanted Watson in one of these adaptations rather than her being the best fit for the part. Honestly, I'd have been happy with her in the role if they'd just dubbed the singing, Belle just needed a stronger singing voice IMO.

Like I said, they seem to have learnt that lesson and cast accordingly for Aladdin (and Mulan).

Anyway, apparently the Zendaya rumour is false

[ranger_scout]

I forgot to mention that Elle Fanning wasn't necessarily an unknown when she played Aurora in Maleficent. She had already achieved box-office success with Super 8 and We Bought a Zoo. After Disney saw her performance in the former, they knew that there was no one better suited for the part of Aurora.

[ranger_scout]

Lots of people weren't too thrilled about Naomi Scott being cast as Jasmine in Aladdin because her ethnic background was different from the character's. Well, if Zendaya does in fact end up being cast as Ariel, then she will receive some very similar backlash as well.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/disneys-rumored-casting-of-zendaya-as-ariel-in-live-action-little-mermaid-sparks-racist-backlash

[ranger_scout]

Right now all Zendaya can say is that her possible involvement with the film is just a rumor, but if she was indeed offered the part her response was “I mean yeah. Why wouldn’t I.”

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/zendaya-live-action-the-little-mermaid-1202953636/

[ranger_scout]

Lady Gaga, who is getting rave reviews for her performance in A Star is Born, is on rumored to be on Disney's radar to play Ursula.

https://thedisinsider.com/2018/10/09/disney-lady-gaga-the-little-mermaid/

[ranger_scout]

Rob Marshall has pretty much confirmed that he is going to direct the film and here's what he had to say about it during an interview with Alan Menken.

It’s about a woman finding her voice. A girl finding her voice, actually. And that immediately just felt like an interesting, timely piece that resonated with us.

https://ew.com/movies/2018/12/14/alan-menken-on-alan-menken/

[turtle1237]

Rob Marshall has pretty much confirmed that he is going to direct the film and here's what he had to say about it during an interview with Alan Menken.



https://ew.com/movies/2018/12/14/alan-menken-on-alan-menken/


He has no ideal what the Little Mermaid is about. Its about sacrifice for the one you loved, IE your voice/family/friends, and in turn the person you love does not really love you in return.

[Leo656]

Color me shocked that someone more or less representing Disney would entirely miss the point of one of the stories they're adapting. :trazz:

As fun as they are, the Disney version of just about any story almost always glosses over the moral as a way to tailor it to kids. Is what it is.

[Shark_Blade]

Disney you better hit a home run with this live action. So far, Aquaman has done a fantastic Little Mermaid on their own and set the bar really high for you :tlol:

I can’t think of anyone better than Mera as Ariel tbh. She’s the perfect redhead!

Imagine if Disney does cast someone horribly off like Zendaya as Ariel pffft. They horribly miscast Belle and Cinderella but did amazing casting for Mowgli and Maleficent... so it’s 50/50 chance it could be good or downright awful.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I was so confused today when I opened up Netflix today and was recommended A Little Mermaid Live Action film released this December.

It wasn't the Disney version, after doing a quick google search but it got pretty negative reviews, yikes. :o

[ranger_scout]

Lately all Lindsay Lohan has been doing is saying how much she'd like to be Ariel in this film. I'd have no problem with Meryl Streep playing Ursula, but Lohan is not meant to play an iconic Disney Princess IMHO.

You said on your social media that you want to play Ariel in a live-action remake of “The Little Mermaid.”
“The Little Mermaid” is my favorite movie since I was a kid. Whenever I put that movie on, it makes me happy. I’m like, “Everybody, stop. Watch this movie.”

Has Disney reached out to you?
No, but I’m going to harass my agent about it after this.

You also said that your dream cast would be Meryl Streep as Ursula. Have you talked about this with Meryl, your co-star from “A Prairie Home Companion”?
No, I’m not in America. I haven’t been in L.A. in a long time. But I would go for that.

https://variety.com/2019/tv/features/lindsay-lohan-beach-house-mtv-mean-girls-sequel-1203101682/

[drgon78]

Lohan looks like she is over 40 years old. Though she was really good looking 12-15 years ago.

[ranger_scout]

Dion Beebe, Rob Marshall's long-time cinematographer, will also be working on the film. He had to this to say about it.

Are you already doing previs for The Little Mermaid?

Yeah, we’re already having those discussions, and it is a bit of a new animal. The very first conversations are about the underwater world and how we’re going to approach it, knowing that Rob is not going to want to be actually under water for six or seven months. That’s just not going to happen. We’re working through the techniques and method, then we’re heading into some early testing.

Shooting digitally?

Yes. But it’s not that big effects-heavy films can’t be shot on film. The last one I did that way was Edge of Tomorrow [2014]. It really all comes down to whether or not the team can take on the requirements of shooting.

Mary Poppins Returns DP Dion Beebe, ASC, ACS, on Digitally Recapturing a Classic (http://www.studiodaily.com/2019/01/mary-poppins-returns-dp-dion-beebe-digitally-recapturing-classic/)

I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with the underwater scenes after what the two of them did for one in Mary Poppins Returns. Marshall also responded to Lohan's campaigning to get the role of Ariel. He thinks she's very special, but they really haven't started the process of casting yet or what direction they will take with it.

Rob Marshall Talks Lindsay Lohan As ‘Little Mermaid’ (https://etcanada.com/video/1422178883664/rob-marshall-talks-lindsay-lohan-as-little-mermaid/)

[Leo656]

I'm sure "burnt-out crackhead former teen starlet" is a top priority. :lol: C'mon Lindsay.

Almost every issue of her Playboy nude pictorial was sent back to Hef with a note stating "Thanks, but no thanks, we stopped caring in 2002." That's NEVER happened before in all of history. I'unno what gives her any idea whatsoever that anyone who isn't her reflection still thinks she's anybody.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm sure "burnt-out crackhead former teen starlet" is a top priority. :lol: C'mon Lindsay.

Almost every issue of her Playboy nude pictorial was sent back to Hef with a note stating "Thanks, but no thanks, we stopped caring in 2002." That's NEVER happened before in all of history. I'unno what gives her any idea whatsoever that anyone who isn't her reflection still thinks she's anybody.

Seriously? Wow. I'm pretty sure Playboy would accept MY nudes if I sent them! Okay, well, maybe not. :trazz:

Besides, she can't be the Little Mermaid. She gonna be BATGIRL. :trolleye:

[Leo656]

OH, I forgot about that! :lol:

And before that she was gonna be Linda Lovelace. Did that movie ever happen? Or did she get scared off when the script got to the scene with the dog? :lol:

She ought'a just get a bunch of shirts made that say "Cautionary Tale" on them and just f*cking own that sh*t. The "comeback" ain't happening. Drugs and botox have left her face frozen in "half-melted wax candle" state. It's over. It's been over for a long, long time. She couldn't get a job if she showed up to every audition wearing a life mask of her original face circa 1999.

Part of me feels like I'm being mean, and yet, another part of me feels like there's so much left unsaid. Weird.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Part of me feels like I'm being mean, and yet, another part of me feels like there's so much left unsaid. Weird.

Leave nothing unsaid. Put it all on the table. All in, bubba. Go hard or go home. :tlol:

[Leo656]

Her nude pictorial was very artfully airbrushed. :tlol:

I mean, I kinda can't get past it. Mean Girls-era, everybody was like, "WOW, I can't wait until she gets desperate enough to pose nude!" Then when she finally does it, everybody's like "WOW, booze and coke make your face and t*ts sag, can we get a do-over on this?" The people who even bothered to look at it, anyway. Again, we went from "I can't wait for that!" to "Huh, really? Hmm. Nah." That never happens. Nobody turns down Famous Boobs. Just in this case.

It's like finally getting that pony you wanted for Sweet 16, except it's literally the same pony, you're both 15 years older, all the magic is gone and the poor thing looks like it could keel over at any moment. When the moment's passed, it's passed.

[ranger_scout]

The other week Alan Menken gave an update on the status of the film.

We’re going to be starting it up very soon. We had to wait for (director) Rob Marshall to finish up “Mary Poppins Returns,” so I imagine pretty soon we’ll be getting into the trenches.



https://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/arts/2019/01/26/q-a-alan-menken-remaking-aladdin-pasek-and-paul/2668465002/

[drgon78]

Considering how disappointed I was with Mary Poppins returns, I do not have any faith in this project.

[ranger_scout]

Ugh Lohan is at it again. She's got to give it a rest. :roll:

Lindsay Lohan channels Ariel, saves lobster from certain death in Beach Club clip (https://ew.com/tv/2019/02/12/lindsay-lohan-saves-lobster-beach-club-clip/)

[ranger_scout]

With the original film is being re-released on home media in honor of its 30th anniversary, Jodi Benson, the voice of Ariel, was asked about the live-action film and who she would like to see play Ariel in it.

PS: Disney has been rebooting a ton of classic films lately, and The Little Mermaid is set to be turned into a live-action film. Is that something that you would consider making a cameo in?

JB: Oh my gosh. Are you kidding? Yeah. I would love that. Absolutely. If they call me, I'll be there. I'm all about it.

PS: Who would you love to see play Ariel in the live-action movie?

JB: It's interesting. I understand there are celebrities that they're thinking and that makes total sense, I totally get that. A part of me would kind of like to have somebody new. I'd really love to see a real 16-year-old play the part. It would be incredible if they did a search for somebody, because she's out there. In some ways, when you attach a celebrity to an iconic role like that, sometimes you get a little caught up with who the person is and a little less focus on the story. So I kind of wish they'd do a little search, but I understand you got to sell tickets.

PS: Is there a specific scene that you're excited to see come to life?

JB: I'd be really curious to see how they're going to do "Part of Your World" underwater. I'd be very fascinated to see how they're going to do everything underwater. I think that would be beautiful. I'm sure it could be done magically, so I would love to see that.

The Original Voice of Ariel Weighs In on Who Should Star in the Live-Action Little Mermaid (https://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/Jodi-Benson-Interview-About-Little-Mermaid-2019-45803178)

RP: Eventually one day, Disney will make a live action Little Mermaid, and it’s currently in development. What's one thing you hope to see in it?

JB: I would like it to stay true to the original. I think it could be a really beautiful film. I'd love to see how they're going to create the underwater whole element. I'm excited to see how they're going to pull that off. That will be really cool. Knowing the people that I've heard that are involved, if it is [composer] Alan Menken and [songwriter] Lin-Manuel Miranda, and if it is [directors] Rob Marshall and John Deluca, if that is the case, which I don't know if it is, those are just names I've heard, they're all incredibly talented. So, it's gonna be phenomenal, there's no doubt about it. Disney's not going to release anything that's not incredible. I'm excited, and if I can just be a person watching from behind and just observing, I would just love to be in the room with all those brilliant, talented people.

Jodi Benson, The Voice of Ariel, Hopes Every Generation Falls In Love With 'The Little Mermaid' (https://www.forbes.com/sites/rpaige/2019/02/15/jodi-benson-interview-ariel-little-mermaid/#4811b118c1a0)

[ranger_scout]

Considering how disappointed I was with Mary Poppins returns, I do not have any faith in this project.

Here are more of Jodi Benson's thoughts on the project. She also mentions that she really enjoyed Mary Poppins Returns.

Disney's had a pretty good batting average with these live-action remakes of some of their classic properties, and I know that The Little Mermaid's definitely on the table with Lin-Manuel Miranda's potentially contributing songs. What gets you excited about seeing this story interpreted in live-action when it inevitably comes to pass?

Yeah. I think it's going to be incredible. They are talking about this concept, and the team of people that I've heard mentioned for this particular live-action film sounds quite magical. And I think for Alan [Menken] to be teaming up with Lin-Manuel is going to be phenomenal, and if in fact we have Robbie Marshall, if that is the case, as director and John DeLuca as executive producer. Mary Poppins Returns, I think, was just a fantastic film, so I know that Robbie is an incredible director with a great eye. I think he can handle it. I think it can be delivered in a way that's going to be quite special. I don't know exactly how they'll pull it all off, but I'm sure it'll be amazing.

'The Little Mermaid': Jodi Benson Talks Ariel, Disney Princesses, and the Potential Live-Action Remake (https://comicbook.com/movies/2019/02/26/little-mermaid-jodi-benson-disney-princess-interview/)

[ranger_scout]

Rob Marshall just gave an update on the film. Right now they are working on the script. He guessing that casting will probably begin in the summer.

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[ranger_scout]

Yesterday on Twitter Alan Menken and Lin-Manuel Miranda said that were working on the film's new songs yesterday.

We’re off and swimming!

What’s a fire, and why does it-
what’s the word?
Burn-
WHEN’S IT MY TURN...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D30ysxAWwAAyJIu.jpg

https://twitter.com/AIMenken/status/1116112640512798727

[ranger_scout]

Alan Menken says that the status of film is that are two meetings in. He's very happy to have Rob Marshall as the director.

https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1131009830737436672

[Sobble]

Disney does like to make a lot of damn live action remakes

They are pumping out these more then there direct to video sequels from 1994-2007 (WITH FANTASIA 2000 BEING THE LUCKY ONE TO COME OUT IN THEATERS)

watch as they remake cars

[ranger_scout]

Zendaya addressed the casting rumors of her playing Ariel the other day. Maybe we will get an announcement at the D23 Expo.

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[CyberCubed]

I wonder how controversial it'll be if they cast her.

[ranger_scout]

I wonder how controversial it'll be if they cast her.

I'm totally fine with a POC playing Ariel. In 1997, Brandy played the titular character in the TV movie Rogers and Hammerstein's Cinderella. KeKe Palmer later followed in Brandy's footsteps by taking over the role in the recent Broadway version, even though that wasn't a Disney Theatrical show. In 1998, Toni Braxton made history as the first African-American woman to play Belle in Beauty and the Beast on Broadway. Alan Menken and Tim Rice even added a song for her in the musical, "A Change in Me", that has been with the show ever since she was involved with it. Right now in the Broadway production of Frozen, Kristoff is being portrayed by an African-American actor named Jelani Alladin. He got hate-mail at first, but then fans warmed up to him.

[Andrew NDB]

lol... they're looking at Melissa McCarthy for Ursula.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/mccarthy-in-talks-for-ursula-in-disneys-mermaid/?fbclid=IwAR1HaujbQiWmiGRHuI37-W9huwLdGljyaj_hzjM8OqSTX-cIe_yOg3vgUgI

I mean... of course they are, right?

[oldmanwinters]

lol... they're looking at Melissa McCarthy for Ursula.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/mccarthy-in-talks-for-ursula-in-disneys-mermaid/?fbclid=IwAR1HaujbQiWmiGRHuI37-W9huwLdGljyaj_hzjM8OqSTX-cIe_yOg3vgUgI

I mean... of course they are, right?

Perfect Casting?

[ranger_scout]

Perfect Casting?

I think it is. She'll be fantastic.

[Candy Kappa]

I’d prefer a drag queen being cast as Ursula since her design was based off Divine’s look

[ranger_scout]

Jacob Trembley (Room, Wonder) is in talks to voice Flounder. He's an excellent choice IMO. :) However, Scuttle might be a female bird in this film and Disney wants Awkwafina (Crazy Rich Asians, Ocean's 8) for the part. :-?

‘The Little Mermaid’: Awkwafina & Jacob Tremblay in Talks To Joins Disney’s Live-Action Pic (https://deadline.com/2019/07/the-little-mermaid-awkwafina-jacob-tremblay-disney-reboot-1202640587/)

[Egon1982]

I smell another halfassed soulless moneygrab remake, i'm boycotting Disney as i have yet to see these live action remakes of Disney classics and will continue to do so.

Eventually the returns on these remakes will diminish eventually and will send Disney the message, i'm sticking to the classics. I want Disney to just be creative like Zootopia, Wreck it Ralph, do a story that hasn't been adapted in the Disney animation studios films and also Pixar than another cashgrab remake.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I smell another halfassed soulless moneygrab remake, i'm boycotting Disney as i have yet to see these live action remakes of Disney classics and will continue to do so.

Eventually the returns on these remakes will diminish eventually and will send Disney the message, i'm sticking to the classics. I want Disney to just be creative like Zootopia, Wreck it Ralph, do a story that hasn't been adapted in the Disney animation studios films and also Pixar than another cashgrab remake.

In the end, its really up to us, the consumers.

If we stop paying Disney to go and watch Live Action remakes, they will stop making them.

Its that simple.

[Autbot_Benz]

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/little-mermaid-halle-bailey-chloe-x-halle-1203234294/

here is Ariel something is different about her

https://i.imgur.com/Ybu3xUP.jpg

[Andrew NDB]

That's a beautiful actress... but Ariel isn't black.

[ZariusTwo]

Another race lift. What an original hollywood stunt:roll:

[Autbot_Benz]

best part is on twitter if you say Ariel is white or they are only doing this for representation/diversity it makes you racist :roll:

[ZariusTwo]

best part is on twitter if you say Ariel is white or they are only doing this for representation/diversity it makes you racist :roll:

Those poor unfortunate souls:P

[joe-eyeball]

What’s kind of terrible about this is that Hollywood people and the media will likely praise Disney for their casting choice when really they don’t care. It’s all about publicity and LOADS OF CASH masquerading as some bold and brave push for social change and acceptance!!!::lol:

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Lets hope she delivers a good performance, thats what matters the most.

Although since the recent remakes have been so shot-for-shot (Aladdin and Lion King come to mind), I was really expecting Disney to pick someone who looked more like the Ariel we know.

[ranger_scout]

There's really nothing wrong with them being diverse in casting this girl as Ariel. Brandy played the titular character in the Disney made-for-TV movie Rogers & Hammerstein's Cinderella back in 1997. The following year, Toni Braxton made history as the first African-American woman to play Belle in Beauty and the Beast on Broadway. Alan Menken and Tim Rice even added a song for her in the musical that has been with the show ever since she was involved with it. Right now in the Broadway production of Frozen, Kristoff is being portrayed by an African-American actor named Jelani Alladin. He got hate-mail at first, but then fans warmed up to him.

[Storm Eagle]

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/little-mermaid-halle-bailey-chloe-x-halle-1203234294/

here is Ariel something is different about her

https://i.imgur.com/Ybu3xUP.jpg

I guess since I'm black, I'm supposed to be eating this up. I'll still give it a shot anyway.

[turtle1237]

I am still not over Black Achilles. It must be remember these are European stories. If we start casting White People in the roles of stories and heroes from tales from Africa, I would still be upset about it. But that's just me.

[Galactus]

best part is on twitter if you say Ariel is white or they are only doing this for representation/diversity it makes you racist :roll:

Sure that's dumb. Saying that Ariel as she was portrayed in the previous Disney movie featuring the character is white and pointing out the reasons for casting a black actress now doesn't make you a racist.

But then if you're saying that Ariel can't or shoudn't be anything other white or that representation and diversity is bad thing well you might have a problem with race.

I'm old enough to remember these same arguments with Tuvok. These are fictional characters portraying a fictional species. They can be any colour you want.

[turtle1237]

Of course it changes when you turn REAL white people into black people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSBx0pqTSL0

[Andrew NDB]

Of course it changes when you turn REAL white people into black people.

I'm waiting for the first movie to change a historically black character into a white one... and what the backlash will be. Because what can it be, if it's just about character?

This seems appropriate about now...

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[Xav]

Why are redhead characters always changed to black?

[Zulithe]

It's weird how many female white redheads keep getting changed into black characters. It's happened so many times in recent years that it's no longer just a coincidence. TMNT fandom is no stranger to this, with April changed into black in the most recent series, plus numerous past attempts to reinterpret her as black that didn't always come to be, for example Ciro revealed in his new TMNT 2012 art book that he originally intended April to be black.

I'm a liberal minded person but even I have to step back and look at how frequently this keeps happening to redhead characters. Redheads are today most associated with people from Celtic nations, particularly Ireland which has the highest percentage. The Irish are a historically oppressed people. Is this just a modern continuation of that in action?

[Vegita-San]

I guess since I'm black, I'm supposed to be eating this up. I'll still give it a shot anyway.

thank you :).

wish more people would realize how stupid race changing is.

As for Tuvok....

The thing with tuvok was also stupid. that was an ORIGINAL character. who's to say their can't be black vulcans, just because we've never seen one before? not like we had seen all that many up to that point....

smh.

Now, the Albino Klingon, that's a different story..and should never have happened.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

This seems appropriate about now...

dmeSGwVBoao

There is never a time that it won't be appropriate ;)

[Galactus]

I'm waiting for the first movie to change a historically black character into a white one... and what the backlash will be. Because what can it be, if it's just about character

You mean like Laurence Olivier playing Othello? Or Mena Suvari in Stuck who played a character based on an actual real life African American woman.

C'mon you know whitewashing in Hollywood happens a lot, right. Like way more than the other way it just doesn't get the same level of coverage and thus doesn't generate the same level of outrage. I know you specially used black since there's less than explicit the examples of that in modern Hollywood but from Johnny Depp playing Tonto to Jake Gylenhal playing the Prince of Persia it is way more prevalent.

That's not even counting Biblical films which take place in Middle Eastern countries but still cast white people or American-ized versions of foreign works or adaptions of manga or anime which do the same even when the characters explicitly supposed to look Japanese.

As for it being about the character while that's true in most cases you know this is done as an equaliser for people that are traditionally underrepresented in Hollywood that it defeats the purpose going the other way. However in principal sure unless a character's story is specifically tied to their race there's nothing to stop them race bending. Black Panther can't be white but then there's nothing to say you can't have a Terry from Spawn be white..oh wait they kinda did that too.

Even then there's people that will disengenuously use any argument to promote whitewashing. Remember the contortions people had to defend William Fichtner as the Shredder. "Oh a white guy can't play Shredder now? That's reverse racism" or "maybe he was adopted by a family in Japan" and the like.

The thing with tuvok was also stupid. that was an ORIGINAL character. who's to say their can't be black vulcans, just because we've never seen one before? not like we had seen all that many up to that point.

At the time lots of people said it and I'm not looking forward to similar strained quasi scientific explanations of why mer-people people can't have dark skin.

Of course it changes when you turn REAL white people into black people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSBx0pqTSL0

I knew in my gut what kind of video that would be when I clicked it but I hoped against hope it would be a whimsical video showing what black celebrities would look like if they were white or something. I suppose I only have myself to blame when my recommendations are filled with alt right weirdos talking about white genocide.

[Turo602]

More pandering, yay!

[oldmanwinters]

Why are redhead characters always changed to black?

It's weird how many female white redheads keep getting changed into black characters. It's happened so many times in recent years that it's no longer just a coincidence. TMNT fandom is no stranger to this, with April changed into black in the most recent series, plus numerous past attempts to reinterpret her as black that didn't always come to be, for example Ciro revealed in his new TMNT 2012 art book that he originally intended April to be black.

I'm a liberal minded person but even I have to step back and look at how frequently this keeps happening to redhead characters. Redheads are today most associated with people from Celtic nations, particularly Ireland which has the highest percentage. The Irish are a historically oppressed people. Is this just a modern continuation of that in action?

It's a growing list too!

Hawkgirl in CW shows
Iris and Wally West in CW Flash
Jimmy Olsen in Supergirl tv show
Starfire in Titans live action show (not sure if really counts being alien)
Barbara Gordon/Batgirl in Lego Batman movie
"MJ" in MCU Spider-man films
April in Rise of Tmnt

Now live-action Ariel

Disclaimer:
"...not that there's anything wrong with that.":tcool:

[turtle1237]

You mean like Laurence Olivier playing Othello? Or Mena Suvari in Stuck who played a character based on an actual real life African American woman.

C'mon you know whitewashing in Hollywood happens a lot, right. Like way more than the other way it just doesn't get the same level of coverage and thus doesn't generate the same level of outrage. I know you specially used black since there's less than explicit the examples of that in modern Hollywood but from Johnny Depp playing Tonto to Jake Gylenhal playing the Prince of Persia it is way more prevalent.

That's not even counting Biblical films which take place in Middle Eastern countries but still cast white people or American-ized versions of foreign works or adaptions of manga or anime which do the same even when the characters explicitly supposed to look Japanese.

As for it being about the character while that's true in most cases you know this is done as an equaliser for people that are traditionally underrepresented in Hollywood that it defeats the purpose going the other way. However in principal sure unless a character's story is specifically tied to their race there's nothing to stop them race bending. Black Panther can't be white but then there's nothing to say you can't have a Terry from Spawn be white..oh wait they kinda did that too.

Even then there's people that will disengenuously use any argument to promote whitewashing. Remember the contortions people had to defend William Fichtner as the Shredder. "Oh a white guy can't play Shredder now? That's reverse racism" or "maybe he was adopted by a family in Japan" and the like.



At the time lots of people said it and I'm not looking forward to similar strained quasi scientific explanations of why mer-people people can't have dark skin.



I knew in my gut what kind of video that would be when I clicked it but I hoped against hope it would be a whimsical video showing what black celebrities would look like if they were white or something. I suppose I only have myself to blame when my recommendations are filled with alt right weirdos talking about white genocide.

I don't care about the side politics of white genocide, Just the TV shows base on historic people who are white in real life, getting turn into black or mix race in the tv show. Joan of Arc and that white Princess from the 1500's.

[ZariusTwo]

I suppose I only have myself to blame when my recommendations are filled with alt right weirdos talking about white genocide.

As opposed to the lefties who minimise, champion, or outright deny large scale cultural appropriation..

...Rather than, y'know, do something original.

[CyberCubed]

You know I don't mind "MJ" in the new Spiderman movies being black, I'm kinda fine with that. But this just feels strange or wrong, like they purposely went out of their way to cast a black actress for a character like Ariel whose design has been iconic for 30 years since 1989.

Granted all the live-action Disney movies are completely forgettable/skippable in the first place so I don't really care that much anyway, but it's just a strange decision.

[Autbot_Benz]

Why are redhead characters always changed to black?

https://i.imgur.com/THKGai5.jpg

[CyberCubed]

The redheads are becoming obsolete in hollywood

[ranger_scout]

Just in case no of you were born around the time of when Disney was being diverse in fairy tale projects, here are some clips of when Brandy played Cinderella in Rogers & Hammerstein's Cinderella for The Wonderful World of Disney alongside the late great Whitney Houston as the Fairy Godmother.

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Also, here is a clip of Toni Braxton performing a song, "A Change in Me", that was added to the musical Beauty and the Beast just for her. The song has remained with the show ever since her involvement.

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Plus, in case no one already knew the role of Kristoff in the Broadway production of Frozen is being played by an African-American actor. This summer he's also going to originate the titular role of the Disney theatrical show Hercules.

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[Vegita-San]

It's a growing list too!

Hawkgirl in CW shows
Iris and Wally West in CW Flash
Jimmy Olsen in Supergirl tv show
Starfire in Titans live action show (not sure if really counts being alien)
Barbara Gordon/Batgirl in Lego Batman movie
"MJ" in MCU Spider-man films
April in Rise of Tmnt

Now live-action Ariel

Disclaimer:
"...not that there's anything wrong with that.":tcool:

It's more than bizarre at this point and hardly a coincidence.

[ZariusTwo]

It's more than bizarre at this point and hardly a coincidence.

There's never any coincidences. People warn us for years of globalist stratagems in western culture and we laugh them all the way to the bank

[raph27]

There's never any coincidences. People warn us for years of globalist stratagems in western culture and we laugh them all the way to the bank

But what would be the end goal here? If this actually is some "agenda," what would be its purpose?

[ranger_scout]

Let's also not forget that Catwoman went through quite a change in the third and final season of Adam West's Batman. Instead of getting Lee Meriwether from the movie, they decided to be diverse.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-534d6f7ac9826691e27d57b0f6c656c8.webp

[Galactus]

It's a growing list too!

...

Disclaimer:
"...not that there's anything wrong with that.":tcool:

Y'know there's a point to be made that recent examples are concentrated on red headed women and if you're a traditionalist it's not wrong to prefer the original version of any character whose race has been altered.

Still it's equally important to point that race bending in mainstream media is still mostly people of colour being turned white by a much bigger margin and never gets this level of meltdowns.

You could even make a case that Disney's previous version of Ariel was whitewashed too. I know the story is Danish but she's the daughter of Poseidon, right? Shouldn't she look Greek? The again if we're sticking true to the original then shouldn't she also have her heart ripped out so there's that.

I don't care about the side politics of white genocide, Just the TV shows base on historic people who are white in real life, getting turn into black or mix race in the tv show. Joan of Arc and that white Princess from the 1500's.

You do realise Ariel isn't a a real life historical figure. She's an entirely fictional character, Mermaids aren't real.

As opposed to the lefties who minimise, champion, or outright deny large scale cultural appropriation..

...Rather than, y'know, do something original.

Well it's nice that people suddenly care about cultural appropriation. Maybe these alt right figures will stop using it as their origin stories of how they became white nationalists. "I used to be a liberal guy until they said me singing along to Usher was cultural appropriation and in that moment I saw the left for what they truly are and decided to hang out with Nazis".

But yeah about the other kind of "cultural appropriation" that the globalists (mostly code for the Jews) are among other things altering western pop culture promoting Elvis Presley's hips to make white women promiscuous, Idris Alba's career to make white women think black men attractive and Captain Marvel all to weaken the white male race...to what end?

Seriously what is the motivation for doing this? And why are major corporations that care only about money not doing what is immediately profitable (presumably exclusively white male led movies) rather than undertaking the long arduous and unprofitable task of long term brainwashing. Wouldn't weakening the white race affect their profit margin.

[drag0nfeathers]

I'm all for equality and recasting ethnicities and whatever, but I'm kind of drawing the line here... I'm sure she's a lovely actress, but that's not Ariel and I'm kind of getting sick of Disney jumping on the "Look at what we did, aren't we great because we cast someone black for white role! Now give us your money because we're so amazing!" I swear it's no longer about equal rights and it's all about raking in the cash and political pandering to idiots who just want to be seen on the "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT WHAT A GOOD PERSON I AM! I SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I AM A GREAT WHITE PERSON!" wagon. Next it will be if you don't go and SEE the new Little Mermaid you must be a racist! *smacks forehead* Just like if I didn't watch the new Rise series I was racist too. I'm just tired of it not being the same both ways. The double standard, often referred to as privilege is just getting out of control. I'm tired of seeing white roles filled with other ethnicities and companies being praised so much for it, but if God forbid if you white wash another role you get freaking crucified and labeled a racist. (just one example off the top of my head was the recent Ghost in the Shell when people snapped because it wasn't an Asian actress) No. I'm not a racist... I just really wanted to see a ginger finally get some work.

[turtle1237]

Y'know there's a point to be made that recent examples are concentrated on red headed women and if you're a traditionalist it's not wrong to prefer the original version of any character whose race has been altered.

Still it's equally important to point that race bending in mainstream media is still mostly people of colour being turned white by a much bigger margin and never gets this level of meltdowns.

You could even make a case that Disney's previous version of Ariel was whitewashed too. I know the story is Danish but she's the daughter of Poseidon, right? Shouldn't she look Greek? The again if we're sticking true to the original then shouldn't she also have her heart ripped out so there's that.



You do realise Ariel isn't a a real life historical figure. She's an entirely fictional character, Mermaids aren't real.



Well it's nice that people suddenly care about cultural appropriation. Maybe these alt right figures will stop using it as their origin stories of how they became white nationalists. "I used to be a liberal guy until they said me singing along to Usher was cultural appropriation and in that moment I saw the left for what they truly are and decided to hang out with Nazis".

But yeah about the other kind of "cultural appropriation" that the globalists (mostly code for the Jews) are among other things altering western pop culture promoting Elvis Presley's hips to make white women promiscuous, Idris Alba's career to make white women think black me attractive and Captain Marvel all to weaken the white male race...to what end?

Seriously what is the motivation for doing this? And why are major corporations that care only about money not doing what is immediately profitable (presumably exclusively white male led movies) rather than undertaking the long arduous and unprofitable task of long term brainwashing. Wouldn't weakening the white race affect their profit margin.

John Wayne predates my time, but I was pretty upset a White guy was playing Genghis Khan who is Asian. How in the world did people making a movie about the first Khan say you know what? Wayne looks sort of Asian lol. No. And your right, the Little Mermaid is Greek if her father is Poseidon, which is not really "White" more olive skin color. Its not that I am against turning white people into black, but this goes for all races. The legend or historic events have a setting. Hercules is Greek, Maui is from Hawaii, Zamba is African, Just changing there race to keep other race happy is wrong imo. I be upset over a White Memon (Legend does say he is black) as I would be with a black Achilles.

[ZariusTwo]

Let's also not forget that Catwoman went through quite a change in the third and final season of Adam West's Batman. Instead of getting Lee Meriwether from the movie, they decided to be diverse.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-534d6f7ac9826691e27d57b0f6c656c8.webp

Uh huh, and Stan Lee's take on Batman was black.

But what would be the end goal here? If this actually is some "agenda," what would be its purpose?

A world without lawyers

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Nah, but seriously, it's just another form of control, only this time the sides have flipped, they're utilising the one thing people aren't tailored to fight against without looking like a "monster". They're using peace, diversity and tolerance as weapons and attempting to sheep-herd and thought patrol people, labelling them racists/misogynists/alt.right is the easiest thing to do because it's a universally praised practitioner of justice, things that appeal to every wild free hipster spirit. It's a romanticised notion of how to run the world that appeals to the younger and more naive generations.

Real talk here is that the world doesn't, and will never, run like that, without conditioning and taming the truest expression of diversity. Nor should it. Leave it to Roddenberry.

[Candy Kappa]

the Little Mermaid is Greek if her father is Poseidon.
Her father is King Triton not Poseidon. Poseidon would be her granddad, Y'know the god that fathered all cyclops so clearly gods don't give a **** about genetics.

And Triton a redhead had several children with his wife, also a redhead and their kids have all the range of hair color.

Plus, Ariel is a fictional character that have no significant anchor to any etnicity or background as she's a character based from a story made by a guy who with a self-insert OC put words to his pain for pining for a guy who did not return his feelings, and said mermaid OC is itself based off mermaid myths from Germany.

I am still not over Black Achilles. It must be remember these are European stories. If we start casting White People in the roles of stories and heroes from tales from Africa, I would still be upset about it. But that's just me.
You're only mad about his skin Color? Yet Achilles was described as 10 feet tall yet here we are with no giant on-screen Achilles.

Black Achilles bad, but White Paris the Turkish prince good?

[CyberCubed]

I get the feeling the phrase, "Not that there's anything wrong with that!" is going to be the go-to phrase going forward for these kind of issues if it isn't already.

I don't care for a black Ariel, but I'm fine with black actors/actress in general in major roles. "Not that there is anything wrong with that."

I mean how would people feel if DC took Cyborg from Teen Titans and made him white? Cyborg is a known black superhero spanning decades, imagine how a "white" Cyborg would be received. Again, "Not that there's anything wrong with that."

[Zulithe]

White people don't want to see black characters turned white, CyberCubed. Which is why I find myself scratching my head when people applaud when things go the opposite way. We should strive for authentic representation of all types of people.

Yes, there are well documented examples through the history of media where white people play non-white characters, and characters that should be POC being changed to white. In modern day I think nearly everyone agrees it shouldn't be done, but we can't change what previous generations have done. We can only do better going forward. But I also don't want to see things swing far in the opposite direction. To me, neither are fair or culturally sensitive.

I have no problem with black characters or characters that can be interpreted as any race as being portrayed as black. What I'm seeing here is a trend that is specifically targeting red-haired characters for whatever reason. Is that even up for debate? The evidence is clear.

I don't feel that Cyborg being black is 100% necessary for his character, just like being white is not 100% necessary for Batman. But I would not want to see a white Cyborg. No matter how good White Cyborg turned out to be, it would always feel like an inauthentic imitation to me. And that is how I feel about a lot of these other examples.

[Candy Kappa]

It is a weird trend making redheads into Black people :lol: like, I get Annie cause it fits the story better in a modern version and Firestar kept her hair so that's fine.

At least it's not another PoC Disney protagonist turning into a animal for the majority of the movie. There's transformation, but it's just the legs :P

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I get the feeling the phrase, "Not that there's anything wrong with that!" is going to be the go-to phrase going forward for these kind of issues if it isn't already.

I don't care for a black Ariel, but I'm fine with black actors/actress in general in major roles. "Not that there is anything wrong with that."

It has become a trigger warning of sorts.

I mean how would people feel if DC took Cyborg from Teen Titans and made him white? Cyborg is a known black superhero spanning decades, imagine how a "white" Cyborg would be received. Again, "Not that there's anything wrong with that."

I personally wouldn't care.
I mean, the no.1 priority for me is that the character is entertaining, first and foremost.

For example, Baxter Stockman in the Mirage Comics was black originally, but then changed to a white man in the Original Cartoon.

I like both versions, but not because of either's race, and I didn't feel any outrage when I learned that the character was "whitewashed"

[CyberCubed]

Baxter is a weird case because at the time he was a one-off character in Mirage only appearing in issue 2 around 1984 (he wouldn't return to the comics till Volume 2 over a decade later), and the original cartoon came out in 1987. Besides the fact that most people didn't know about the comics outside of adults at the time, it wasn't on the radar in 1987.

[turtle1237]

Baxter is a weird case because at the time he was a one-off character in Mirage only appearing in issue 2 around 1984 (he wouldn't return to the comics till Volume 2 over a decade later), and the original cartoon came out in 1987. Besides the fact that most people didn't know about the comics outside of adults at the time, it wasn't on the radar in 1987.

As a kid, I didn't even know the Ninja Turtles started out as a comic book series. :lol: It was this cool TV show that show up out of no were. I didn't even know who Baxter was lol. I look back at it, and think yeah, Baxter should of stay black.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah, and Baxter has remained black ever since in every incarnation. 2k3 series, IDW, Nick, the movies, even Rise.

[ranger_scout]

Does anyone remember the 1990s TV series that took place before the events of the first movie? Someone on twitter brought up a good fact that Ariel actually had a friend who had different colored skin than her. Plus, she was a mute and spoke with sign language. Her name was Gabriela.

Someone really tried to use the whole "There are no brown mermaids in the Little Mermaid"

Aight, lemme give you a Disney history lesson. This is Gabriella, she is also mute and uses ASL to communicate.

Try again with that nonsense lol.

https://twitter.com/NipahDUBS/status/1146783952167829511


https://i.ibb.co/CMFVLwN/D-ox6c-VUAI3-VAT.jpg (https://ibb.co/b2nNt6q)


https://i.ibb.co/Vgn5pc6/D-ox62-TUc-AEOUJN.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


https://i.ibb.co/n6jMPQ7/D-ox7-Ba-U0-AASASI.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


https://i.ibb.co/NTkPc6J/D-ox7-J1-VUAEO-ox.jpg (https://ibb.co/7kT5sJZ)

[Autbot_Benz]

Also #notmyariel is the 9th trending trend on twitter

[ranger_scout]

There was actually a report from June 2018 saying it was rumored that Disney was going to diverse with their casting for this movie. Along with Ariel, both Eric and King Triton are also apparently going to be played by actors of different backgrounds.

EXCLUSIVE: Disney Considering Actors Of Color For The Live-Action LITTLE MERMAID (https://thedisinsider.com/2018/06/12/exclusive-disney-considering-actors-of-color-for-the-live-action-little-mermaid/)

[Xav]

Even then there's people that will disengenuously use any argument to promote whitewashing. Remember the contortions people had to defend William Fichtner as the Shredder. "Oh a white guy can't play Shredder now? That's reverse racism" or "maybe he was adopted by a family in Japan" and the like.That really isn't a good example, the Shredder isn't a character it's a mantle used by multiple characters.

[Wildcat]

So this is the latest thing the internet has to be mad about.

Honestly I was never that into the Little Mermaid. So in general I don’t mind they cast a black actress for Ariel but whoever was expecting a more cartoon accurate take I can understand being somewhat annoyed.

Still I do not think it’s a huge a deal as people will make it out to be.

I know people love to label things PC but I thought of something before. All the times where it seems like something is done to be different/diverse...don’t they only come off that way because it’s the first time?

It’s easy to claim PC agenda (whatever that is) but isn’t this the way things should be? That changes can happen to characters or whatever (within reason) and it be considered totally normal?

[ZariusTwo]

It’s easy to claim PC agenda (whatever that is) but isn’t this the way things should be?

No. You can't force people to accept diversity through conditioning them, people are not stupid and tend to rebel when these things are pushed, they're going to catch on this is more a movement and far from "the norm".

That changes can happen to characters or whatever (within reason) and it be considered totally normal?

If it were all done in moderation, then yes, it'd be considered normal, but this is a bloody epidemic now. It happens far too frequently to the point a traditional Caucasian casting would be a breath of fresh air.

[Wildcat]

So then what can anyone do then that will not be called forced? Seemly everything is met with some kind of backlash.

At the end of the day it’s a just 1 movie. It’s not like Disney is replacing her look in parks and toy lines. I mean her white/reheaded look will always be around.

[Candy Kappa]

It happens far too frequently to the point a traditional Caucasian casting would be a breath of fresh air.

I agree, it would be cool with more South Asian representation

[Storm Eagle]

Let's also not forget that Catwoman went through quite a change in the third and final season of Adam West's Batman. Instead of getting Lee Meriwether from the movie, they decided to be diverse.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-534d6f7ac9826691e27d57b0f6c656c8.webp

Was the movie meant to be set in a universe apart from the TV series? If it was, then I guess it's not a big deal that Catwoman was played by a black woman. Otherwise, how would one explain her being of a different race all of a sudden?

[Candy Kappa]

Was the movie meant to be set in a universe apart from the TV series? If it was, then I guess it's not a big deal that Catwoman was played by a black woman. Otherwise, how would one explain her being of a different race all of a sudden?

Um, Eartha Kitt was Catwoman in the third season, not in the movie.

Julie Newmar was Catwoman in season 1, Lee Meriwether was Catwoman in the movie, Julie came back as Catwoman in season 2 and Eartha Kitt was Catwoman in season 3.

[Storm Eagle]

Um, Eartha Kitt was Catwoman in the third season, not in the movie.

Julie Newmar was Catwoman in season 1, Lee Meriwether was Catwoman in the movie, Julie came back as Catwoman in season 2 and Eartha Kitt was Catwoman in season 3.

My mistake. It still seems strange to me anyway since it's the TV series.

I felt the same way about Idris Elba possibly playing James Bond since I thought the James Bond in the movies was supposed to be the same person, despite being played by several different actors. Then I was told about a theory that James Bond is a code name given to several agents each generation. If that's the case, then a non-white actor playing James Bond is fine.

[ZariusTwo]

Then I was told about a theory that James Bond is a code name given to several agents each generation..

That theory falls apart the minute you start actually watching the movies.

[Allio]

I mean... another remake? I’m beginning to think Disney can’t be original

[sdp]

Well in Mexican and Latin American groups they hate the idea of Ariel being Black. I wonder if Americans would think they're racist too?

My thoughts are that this change is stupid and sucks we lost another red head in fiction though. I wonder how much longer the trend of lazily changing the race to automatically get praised by groups and get free advertisement all over the web sill last for. I think the actress is very attractive though.

But then if you're saying that Ariel can't or shoudn't be anything other white

Disney's Ariel though?

or that representation and diversity is bad thing well you might have a problem with race.
.

While I'm sure at least half of the people complaining are racists, saying all who complain are is as big of a problem with the current political climate. Many of us praise diversity and want to see more, this is just marketing really.

Um, Eartha Kitt was Catwoman in the third season, not in the movie.

Julie Newmar was Catwoman in season 1, Lee Meriwether was Catwoman in the movie, Julie came back as Catwoman in season 2 and Eartha Kitt was Catwoman in season 3.

Maybe Ertha Kitt was meant to be Patience Phillips' Catwoman?

This is my headcanon now.

Does anyone remember the 1990s TV series that took place before the events of the first movie? Someone on twitter brought up a good fact that Ariel actually had a friend who had different colored skin than her. Plus, she was a mute and spoke with sign language. Her name was Gabriela.

https://i.ibb.co/CMFVLwN/D-ox6c-VUAI3-VAT.jpg (https://ibb.co/b2nNt6q)



Vaguely remember her, always cringey when the minority character had to be every minority possible, not only latino but also gay and on a wheelchair. At that point it's somehow worse in some regards instead of being good.

[ranger_scout]

Melody, Ariel's daughter, is very happy about the casting news.

Hey @chloexhalle I just wanted you to know you I am honored to have you play my mom. I know you’ll be beyond beautiful & magical ����#thelittlemermaidmovie

https://www.disneyclips.com/lyrics/images/moment.jpg

https://twitter.com/tarastrong/status/1147199021515247616

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Melody, Ariel's daughter, is very happy about the casting news.



https://www.disneyclips.com/lyrics/images/moment.jpg

https://twitter.com/tarastrong/status/1147199021515247616

Huh,

Never knew that Tara Strong voiced Ariel's daughter, but then again I never payed much attention to the Little Mermaid sequel outside of watching it once or twice.

[Lord Nightwalker]

That theory falls apart the minute you start actually watching the movies.

Agree with you Zarius. Also, it's very apparent in all of Flemming's novels. Bond is one man.

[Sumac]

It’s easy to claim PC agenda (whatever that is) but isn’t this the way things should be? That changes can happen to characters or whatever (within reason) and it be considered totally normal?
No.

Changes made because of political agenda should not be the norm.
Especially, when those changes motivated not by ideology, but desire to earn progressive cookies with batshit insane crowd in the Internet.

So then what can anyone do then that will not be called forced? Seemly everything is met with some kind of backlash.
Don't change characters out of the blue?
Simple really.

[Prowler]

So, another case of race-washing/change? It's getting old and I've already said what I think about such subject a few times in the past on these forums. Don't feel like repeating my points.

It's funny, though, how people who talk about representation and push for it seem to only care about black people. But they don't seem to care about East Asians, Indians, Arabs and other Middle Eastern ethnic groups, Samoans, Central Asians, etc. It's like only White and Black people exist in their world and the rest of the world doesn't exist. It's literally a black and white world to them. Someone explain this to me, please. Some people say that black people are underrepresented in the American media but I've seen WAY more black actors and characters in the American media than I've seen of other racial minorities that live in that country.

[Sumac]

So, another case of race-washing/change? It's getting old and I've already said what I think about such subject a few times in the past on these forums. Don't feel like repeating my points.

It's funny, though, how people who talk about representation and push for it seem to only care about black people. But they don't seem to care about East Asians, Indians, Arabs and other Middle Eastern ethnic groups, Samoans, Central Asians, etc. It's like only White and Black people exist in their world and the rest of the world doesn't exist. It's literally a black and white world to them. Someone explain this to me, please. Some people say that black people are underrepresented in the American media but I've seen WAY more black actors and characters in the American media than I've seen of other racial minorities that live in that country.
Funny isn't it?
For all their cries about stopping "American Cultural Imperialism", they act like only US culture and history matters and should be represented.

But its not like those people are strangers to hypocrisy. On contrary - they breath it.

[Prowler]

Funny isn't it?
For all their cries about stopping "American Cultural Imperialism", they act like only US culture and history matters and should be represented.

But its not like those people are strangers to hypocrisy. On contrary - they breath it.

Yeah, you nailed it. And those same people pretty much try to "impose" their views on non-American media as well. Remember the complains about the lack of Black people in The Witcher or whatever?

[Candy Kappa]

Gotta love the whining about including people of color in the Witcher show (despite poc exists in the games) but all the "historically accurate" crowd was very quiet about inclusion of potatoes in the games. Since, Y'know, potatoes wasn't around i Poland during the time Witcher is based on.

[turtle1237]

Or the time when the PC crowd complain about Anime not having any black people?(Even though in most cases the people in Anime were well, Asian lol)

[ranger_scout]

I really didn't care for the Broadway adaptation of The Little Mermaid since it was Disney's weakest show next to Tarzan, but Sierra Boggess, who originated the role of Ariel on Broadway and who is my favorite Christine Daae from Phantom of the Opera, had this to say about the casting decision.

I am so here for this casting!!! Yasss!

https://twitter.com/sierraboggess/status/1146547864899870720

Alright, I’m tired of this, listen again: “Bright young women, sick of swimmin’, ready to stand...” I hear this being the cry of EVERY little girl, don’t you? #Ariel #LittleMermaid

https://twitter.com/sierraboggess/status/1147120491926380544

[Sumac]

Gotta love the whining about including people of color in the Witcher show (despite poc exists in the games) but all the "historically accurate" crowd was very quiet about inclusion of potatoes in the games. Since, Y'know, potatoes wasn't around i Poland during the time Witcher is based on.
When someone compares people to potatoes, you know their arguments are weak. :lol:

Yeah, you nailed it. And those same people pretty much try to "impose" their views on non-American media as well. Remember the complains about the lack of Black people in The Witcher or whatever?
I've heard about someone complaining that there were no black people in Chernobyl series, which takes place in Ukraine, which is known for having a big population of black people...oh wait...

[Andrew NDB]

It'd be one thing if Disney didn't restrict the auditions for the role of Ariel to white women only... like, if they truly wanted to cast the best actress for the role. But that's not what they did... they only auditioned black actresses.

[sdp]

Y'all being played, this was done on purpose to generate controversy and people would talk about it. It's been the marketing 101 go to trick for the past few years now. Whether you're against it or for it you talk about it and that's all the multinational corporations care about. In the end it works in their favor, people who said they hate it will watch it anyway, people who wouldn't watch it will watch it to make a point while Disney cashes in as much money as they can from this bankrupt idea.

[Xav]

Melody, Ariel's daughter, is very happy about the casting news.



https://www.disneyclips.com/lyrics/images/moment.jpg

https://twitter.com/tarastrong/status/1147199021515247616Well Tara's an SJW so no surprise there.

[Vegita-San]

Y'all being played, this was done on purpose to generate controversy and people would talk about it. It's been the marketing 101 go to trick for the past few years now. Whether you're against it or for it you talk about it and that's all the multinational corporations care about. In the end it works in their favor, people who said they hate it will watch it anyway, people who wouldn't watch it will watch it to make a point while Disney cashes in as much money as they can from this bankrupt idea.

yep.

at this point, they don't believe in anything. just controversy and clicks and click bait.

[Warhorse]

Also #notmyariel is the 9th trending trend on twitter

Geeze. I honestly could care less either way, I never watched The Little Mermaid when it first came out, and probably won't see this either, but, I am with those who think Disney is being very shallow with this. If they really did care about these issues, then they would be sending their teams scouring the books written by Black authors and look into striking a deal with them and turning their original works into movies. But, Disney is being run by businessmen now, and no longer artists, and it's just easier to buy works that already exist and worked instead of risking in new properties.

[Warhorse]

So, another case of race-washing/change? It's getting old and I've already said what I think about such subject a few times in the past on these forums. Don't feel like repeating my points.

It's funny, though, how people who talk about representation and push for it seem to only care about black people. But they don't seem to care about East Asians, Indians, Arabs and other Middle Eastern ethnic groups, Samoans, Central Asians, etc. It's like only White and Black people exist in their world and the rest of the world doesn't exist. It's literally a black and white world to them. Someone explain this to me, please. Some people say that black people are underrepresented in the American media but I've seen WAY more black actors and characters in the American media than I've seen of other racial minorities that live in that country.

This is true. With the massive Hispanic community that is in the USA, and the fact that some of the biggest hits on youtube, CD's, etc are from Hispanic culture, you would think Hollywood would be trying to tap into that market, but they have barely scratched the surface. But, Hispanics aren't as vocal, and made their own stuff anyways, like Robert Rodriguez.

[Turo602]

So, another case of race-washing/change? It's getting old and I've already said what I think about such subject a few times in the past on these forums. Don't feel like repeating my points.

It's funny, though, how people who talk about representation and push for it seem to only care about black people. But they don't seem to care about East Asians, Indians, Arabs and other Middle Eastern ethnic groups, Samoans, Central Asians, etc. It's like only White and Black people exist in their world and the rest of the world doesn't exist. It's literally a black and white world to them. Someone explain this to me, please. Some people say that black people are underrepresented in the American media but I've seen WAY more black actors and characters in the American media than I've seen of other racial minorities that live in that country.

Exactly. That's my biggest gripe with this stupid ass push for "diversity" because lately, diversity just means black, female, and gay. People complain when characters get changed, period. But if the complaint stems from casting a black person as a character who isn't traditionally black, then all the f*cking casuals come out and embrace it and single out the white people and call them racist. And then they make it about the poor black folk who have been underrepresented in the past which is complete utter f*cking bullsh*t. Why don't these people support black films then? Why is Black Panther the only one to have made noise and pass a billion for doing nothing original at all? Why did Ghostbusters flop so hard when everyone was being called sexist for not liking the all female direction? Where was the support? Or do people just like b*tching at others on the internet about sh*t they don't give 2 f*cks about just to fuel their own egos and get points with their "poor" minority friends? I'm so f*cking tired of this same argument.

[ranger_scout]

A statement was released on the Disney-owned channel Freeform.

Yes. The original author of ‘The Little Mermaid’ was Danish. Ariel…is a mermaid. She lives in an underwater kingdom in international waters and can legit swim wherever she wants (even though that often upsets King Triton, absolute zaddy). But for the sake of argument, let’s say that Ariel, too, is Danish. Danish mermaids can be black because Danish *people* can be black. Ariel can sneak up to the surface at any time with her pals Scuttle and the *ahem* Jamaican crab Sebastian (sorry, Flounder!) and keep that bronze base tight. Black Danish people, and thus mer-folk, can also *genetically* (!!!) have red hair. But spoiler alert – bring it back to the top – the character of Ariel is a work of fiction. So after all this is said and done, and you still cannot get past the idea that choosing the incredible, sensational, highly-talented, gorgeous Halle Bailey is anything other than the INSPIRED casting that it is because she “doesn’t look like the cartoon one”, oh boy, do I have some news for you…about you.

Disney defends decision to cast Halle Bailey in upcoming “The Little Mermaid” film (https://insidethemagic.net/2019/07/disney-defends-decision-to-cast-halle-bailey-in-upcoming-the-little-mermaid-film/)

[Autbot_Benz]

A statement was released on the Disney-owned channel Freeform.



Disney defends decision to cast Halle Bailey in upcoming “The Little Mermaid” film (https://insidethemagic.net/2019/07/disney-defends-decision-to-cast-halle-bailey-in-upcoming-the-little-mermaid-film/)

Wow so Disney is calling people who don't like this casting racist too. Nice one dumbasses :o

[Wildcat]

No.

Changes made because of political agenda should not be the norm.
Especially, when those changes motivated not by ideology, but desire to earn progressive cookies with batshit insane crowd in the Internet.

Don't change characters out of the blue?
Simple really.Not denying that wanting to appear more progressive was probably one of the factors for this...but so much now is labeled as PC agenda.

Surely some of it is just people online reading way too much into stuff so they can complain and act like it’s a conspiracy to brainwash fandoms.

I mean I could probably go back to stuff from the 90s and accuse things of being a certain way. If you’re actively looking for something to be against it’s easy.

[Zulithe]

There can be white Africans (South Africa comes to mind), so does that mean Black Panther can be white? I don't want that, but saying there are black danish people isn't an argument. And pointing and screaming "racist!" at anyone who doesn't see it their way is an overplayed card that holds no power. I'm not interested in anything any Disney representative has to say about the casting, of course they would defend it.

I absolutely agree that latino and asian americans are vastly underrepresented. Just look at MCU films... very few latino or asian characters, despite many instances of race changes in the characters. Disney is by no means an authority on proper representation.

[ZariusTwo]

I mean I could probably go back to stuff from the 90s and accuse things of being a certain way.

And you wouldn't be wrong.

A statement was released on the Disney-owned channel Freeform.



Disney defends decision to cast Halle Bailey in upcoming “The Little Mermaid” film (https://insidethemagic.net/2019/07/disney-defends-decision-to-cast-halle-bailey-in-upcoming-the-little-mermaid-film/)

What a petulantly childish, smug, self-congratulatory and accusatory statement.

Given the headlines I've seen of Disney refusing to allow an image of Spider-Man on a dead child's tombstone, boy do I have news for them..about them :roll:

[Wildcat]

And you wouldn't be wrong.



What a petulantly childish, smug, self-congratulatory and accusatory statement.

Given the headlines I've seen of Disney refusing to allow an image of Spider-Man on a dead child's tombstone, boy do I have news for them..about them :roll:That does not make whatever you’re rallying against true.

I just looked up that Spider-Man story. How can you be mad at Disney wanting to keep its characters off of graves? Other companies probably would not do it either.

The family is entitled to do whatever they want but the grave stone is bit too far imo. It’s kinda creepy.

They offered an official drawing with a personal message instead. That’s totally reasonable.

[Shark_Blade]

https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/notmyariel-white-twitter-is-big-mad-about-disney-cast-1836128376

#NotMyAriel: White Twitter Is Big Mad About Disney Casting a Black Little Mermaid

The ink had barely dried on Disney’s announcement that Halle Bailey will star in the title role of The Little Mermaid when meteorologists at the White Weather Channel had to issue a flash flood warning because of a sudden deluge of white tears.

Most people, including myself, were elated that Halle Berry would get the chance to introduce herself to a new generation of Disney fans. They soon realized that the actress chosen to play Ariel was not the Oscar-winning actress from Monster’s Ball. Instead, Disney execs chose one-half of the R&B duo Chloe x Halle, which caused a meltdown in the unseasoned sections of social media platforms because a black person had once again stolen a job from the marginalized group of unmelanated Americans. The hashtag #NotMyAriel immediately began trending on White Twitter.

Of course, this display of fragility was to be expected because, in a country and a system where whiteness is the default, rewarding anyone who doesn’t fit into the traditional idea of “normal” is a perceived insult. It feels like robbery. It feels like oppression.

In their minds, Disney didn’t make a business decision based on talent, ability and the fact that Halle Bailey can bring her already-built fan base to the box office. The woebegone whites automatically assumed that the movie studio chose a black actress because of political correctness, pandering and the dreaded idea of diversity.

But if white actors can play Jesus, Moses (two times), Michael Jackson, Othello, Simba, Tonto, the Prince of Persia and Ramses, then why can’t the fish girl be black?

That was a rhetorical question. We know why.

However, on the extended weekend of this great American holiday, instead of focusing on the small number of fragile, furious racists, maybe we should concentrate on the important things. Even though a few people might be salty about Disney’s casting, there is, indeed, a bright side:

Finally, they’ll have some seasoning.

Did people forget Disney's 1997 live action Cinderella? This new upcoming live action Little Mermaid is no different, so what's with the outrage now? smh

https://i.imgur.com/nynPUCk.png

[Zulithe]

Did people forget Disney's 1997 live action Cinderella?

Absolutely

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Just a few quotes from that Grapevine article that supposedly stands for equality:

#NotMyAriel: White Twitter Is Big Mad About Disney Casting a Black Little Mermaid [Corrected]

Oh yes, the whites are at it again.

meteorologists at the White Weather Channel had to issue a flash flood warning because of a sudden deluge of white tears

The hashtag #NotMyAriel immediately began trending on White Twitter.

The woebegone whites automatically assumed that the movie studio chose a black actress because of political correctness, pandering and the dreaded idea of diversity.

in a country and a system where whiteness is the default, rewarding anyone who doesn’t fit into the traditional idea of “normal” is a perceived insult. It feels like robbery. It feels like oppression.

[Sumac]

Not denying that wanting to appear more progressive was probably one of the factors for this...but so much now is labeled as PC agenda.
In this particular case - it is absolutely is.

[Turo602]

Did people forget Disney's 1997 live action Cinderella? This new upcoming live action Little Mermaid is no different, so what's with the outrage now? smh

https://i.imgur.com/nynPUCk.png

How does an obscure TV movie justify race swapping or diminish the backlash like if it was widely regarded?

Also, that article is dogsh*t.

[Candy Kappa]

When someone compares people to potatoes, you know their arguments are weak. :lol:

Way to completely missing the point, which I know you do on purpose, but whatevs.

It's not exactly hard to see that there is a certain group that are quick to claim "historical inaccuracy" as soon as women or some extra melatonin is included, yet other things are willfully ignored. Like the reactions to the latest coming update to the game Mordhau


I absolutely agree that latino and asian americans are vastly underrepresented. Just look at MCU films... very few latino or asian characters, despite many instances of race changes in the characters. Disney is by no means an authority on proper representation.

Absolutely. Disney isn't above "whitewashing" either, making two Jewish Romani characters not that anymore. Or changing the Ancient One

Or not including Hawkeye's hearing impairment (which comes and goes in the comics) which could have made him a interesting character

[raph27]

Did people forget Disney's 1997 live action Cinderella? This new upcoming live action Little Mermaid is no different, so what's with the outrage now? smh


That was in a pre-The Last Jedi world. Now every time a Disney employee breathes the reaction is "SJW! white genocide! reverse racism! Disney evil!" I honestly think people got so riled up about TLJ that it made them look for similar things to rag Disney about, even if they were non-issues. Just look at the reaction to Captain Marvel for a start.

[ZariusTwo]

Just look at the reaction to Captain Marvel for a start.

If Brie hadn't been a prat in interviews, that would have blown over.

[ranger_scout]

Absolutely

How does an obscure TV movie justify race swapping or diminish the backlash like if it was widely regarded?

Also, that article is dogsh*t.

The TV movie was seen by over 60 million viewers in its initial airing. On Valentine's Day 1999, an encore broadcast was watched by an additional 15 million viewers.

[ZariusTwo]

Did people forget Disney's 1997 live action Cinderella? This new upcoming live action Little Mermaid is no different, so what's with the outrage now? smh

Because back then we weren't in the midst of a cultural appropriation epidemic.

[Turo602]

The TV movie was seen by over 60 million viewers in its initial airing. On Valentine's Day 1999, an encore broadcast was watched by an additional 15 million viewers.

And it's been totally relevant since, right? Yeah, didn't think so.

[ranger_scout]

Jodi Benson was at Flordia Supercon this past weekend and here is what she had to say about the casting. She made some excellent points here.

The most important thing is to tell the story. And we have, as a family, we have raised our children, and for ourselves, that we don’t see anything that’s different on the outside. I think that the spirit of a character is what really matters. What you bring to the table in a character as far as their heart, and their spirit, is what really counts. And the outside package - cause let’s face it, I’m really, really old - and so when I’m singing ‘Part of Your World,’ if you were to judge me on the way that I look on the outside, it might change the way that you interpret the song. But if you close your eyes, you can still hear the spirit of Ariel. The most important thing for a film is to be able to tell a story.”

We need to be storytellers. And no matter what we look like on the outside, no matter our race, our nation, the color of our skin, our dialect, whether I’m tall or thin, whether I’m overweight or underweight, or my hair is whatever color, we really need to tell the story. And that’s what we want to do, we want to make a connection to the audience. So I know for Disney that they have the heart of storytelling, that’s really what they’re trying to do. They want to communicate with all of us in the audience so that we can fall in love with the film again.

Original Ariel Actress Jodi Benson Defends Halle Bailey’s Casting in Live-Action The Little Mermaid (https://comicbook.com/movies/2019/07/07/the-little-mermaid-original-ariel-actress-jodi-benson-defends-halle-bailey-casting-disney-live-action-remake/)

[Andrew NDB]

Did people forget Disney's 1997 live action Cinderella?

No, mostly it's people not caring about it, even then.

[Xav]

Terry Crews want to play King Triton.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/terry-crews-king-triton-little-mermaid-remake.html/

[Candy Kappa]

Terry Crews or Idris Elba... Hard choice

[Autbot_Benz]

Terry Crews or Idris Elba... Hard choice

Someone suggested Keith David for Triton. I think he would nail it with that voice of his.

[CyberCubed]

Apparently China is considering not showing the movie there, as far I've heard. This is a pretty big deal for international markets, simply because they don't want a black little mermaid.

[Coola Yagami]

So.... where were all the non-white children that just couldn't get into Ariel back in the 90's? The ones that couldn't identify and/or look up to her? The only reason anyone would take their kids to see the remake is because the original resonated with them when they were kids regardless of their race.

I must be the only person that can watch a movie without feeling the need of needing to have a 'just like me' character in it. I don't care if the Avengers End Game had tons of heroes and none were Hispanic. I just want to be entertained and leave identity politics at the door.

[ranger_scout]

After reading an article about Liu Yifei, the star of the live-action Mulan, I suddenly remembered that the casting process for all of the Disney Princesses in these remakes, except for Aurora and Belle, haven't been easy. It's clear that they are casting people based on how well the capture the original spirit of these Princesses and the qualities that they are looking for. When you watch the behind-the-scenes featurettes of Maleficent, the people who worked on the film said that when they saw Elle Fanning's performance in Super 8, they knew that they wanted her as their Aurora. Walt Disney Studios chairman Alan F. Horn had previously overseen Emma Watson's work in Harry Potter when he worked at Warner Bros. She was his first choice for Belle in Beauty and the Beast and both he and Sean Bailey, the president of production, completely agreed with him and knew that it was a part she would relate to.

After Watson turned down Cinderella, they really went through a process of finding the right girl like the prince did when looking for the one whose foot would fit the glass slipper. They had seen actresses like Gabriella Wilde, Saoirse Ronan, Alicia Vikander, Bella Heathcote and Margot Robbie, but when Lily James, who was originally auditioning for Cinderella's stepsister Anastasia, met the casting director he suggested that she should try out for Cinderella while she was there and they knew she was right for the part. When it came to casting Jasmine in Aladdin, they were initially looking for someone with a Middle-Eastern background, but clearly not one of the girls they had seen really had what they were looking for in their Jasmine. Naomi Scott not only made the role of Jasmine her own, but she also stayed true to the original version as well. When Entertainment Weekly wrote an article about Liu Yifei today, they said that she won the part of Mulan out of over 1,000 girls that had auditioned over a year-long process.

Remaking an iconic film is no easy task. Casting directors embarked on a year-long search and saw nearly 1,000 candidates across five continents for the role of Mulan, according to The Hollywood Reporter. The part required an ethnically Chinese young woman to have credible martial arts skills, the ability to speak English, and of course, star quality. Liu certainly fit the bill as a popular actress in China with many action roles under her belt and training from the Beijing Film Academy.

Everything you should know about live-action Mulan star Liu Yifei (https://ew.com/movies/2019/07/08/everything-know-mulan-star-yifei-liu/)

Bailey must obviously have shown the same free-spirited, feisty and bubbly personality that people remember the most about Ariel. We all really should give her chance.

[Refractive Reflections]

Ugh....more minority pandering to show just how "inclusive" Disney is, despite their high-ranking executives being mostly white (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_management_of_The_Walt_Disney_Company). How about some racial diversity there Disney? ...Or do you not want to display that little secret, because it would be affecting the most important positions of power and reveal your own hypocrisy? I'm sure the mainstream media won't be highlighting this (especially not the ABC network, since it's owned by Disney) as usual.

How ironic that a mermaid will be portrayed by an African-American woman, when most African-American women don't even like to get their hair wet. Nothing against the actress Halle Bailey herself, but it's such an obvious corporate ploy by Disney to exploit and capitalize off the politically correct attitudes of contemporary society.

Is Disney so creatively bankrupt that they can't create new Disney fairytales that are from African cultures? (Then again, their remakes are their biggest grossing movies so far.) Are they that lazy and cheap they can't research and find any significant folklore tales in all of these tribes from Africa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_of_Africa)? To give those with African ethnicity something they can be proud of from their own culture of storytelling, rather than using actors with African ethnicity as a veneer on an originally Danish story just to suit the company's self-serving publicity agenda?

[Coola Yagami]

After reading an article about Liu Yifei, the star of the live-action Mulan, I suddenly remembered that the casting process for all of the Disney Princesses in these remakes, except for Aurora and Belle, haven't been easy. It's clear that they are casting people based on how well the capture the original spirit of these Princesses and the qualities that they are looking for. When you watch the behind-the-scenes featurettes on Maleficent, the people who worked on the film said that when they saw Elle Fanning's performance in Super 8, they knew that they wanted her as their Aurora. Walt Disney Studios chairman Alan F. Horn had previously overseen Emma Watson's work in Harry Potter when he worked at Warner Bros. She was his first choice for Belle in Beauty and the Beast and both he and Sean Bailey the president of production completely agreed with him and knew that it was a part she would relate to.

After Watson turned down Cinderella, they really went through a process of finding the right girl like the prince did when looking for the one whose foot would fit the glass slipper. They had seen actresses like Gabriella Wilde, Saoirse Ronan, Alicia Vikander, Bella Heathcote and Margot Robbie, but when Lily James, who was originally auditioning for Cinderella's stepsister Anastasia, met the casting director he suggested that she should try out for Cinderella while she was there and they knew she was right for the part. When it came to casting Jasmine in Aladdin, they were initially looking for someone with a Middle-Eastern background, but clearly not one of the girls they had seen really had what they were looking for in their Jasmine. Naomi Scott not only made the role of Jasmine her own, but she also stayed true to the original version as well. When Entertainment Weekly wrote an article about Liu Yifei today, they said that she won the part out of over 1,000 girls that had auditioned over a year-long process.



Everything you should know about live-action Mulan star Liu Yifei (https://ew.com/movies/2019/07/08/everything-know-mulan-star-yifei-liu/)

Bailey must obviously have shown the same free-spirited, feisty and bubbly personality that people remember the most about Ariel. We all really should give her chance.

It's hard to say. For all we know Disney could have decided to push the button for the uproar it would cause (everyone's talking about it) and only casted black actresses. I'm sure Bailey was the best choice but what if they only casted a certain type that really did rule out the chance of a redhead actually getting the role?

I'm just curious. Disney is a business. They know drama brings attention. There's gonna be a lot more people going to see this to 'make a stand' against some imaginary enemy that was never a problem in the 90s than to actually see the movie for the sake of seeing the movie.

I can already hear all the 'you're a racist if you don't watch or like the movie' comments coming.

[Andrew NDB]

It's hard to say. For all we know Disney could have decided to push the button for the uproar it would cause (everyone's talking about it) and only casted black actresses. I'm sure Bailey was the best choice but what if they only casted a certain type that really did rule out the chance of a redhead actually getting the role?

Yeah, it really seems like they only went after black actresses. They were going after Zendaya before this.

https://geektyrant.com/news/zendaya-reportedly-offered-the-lead-role-in-disneys-live-action-adaptation-of-the-little-mermaid

https://www.revelist.com/celebrity/zendaya-ariel-little-mermaid/13293

[Vegita-San]

I can already hear all the 'you're a racist if you don't watch or like the movie' comments coming.

racist, hate groups, and all those other buzz words get thrown around so much these days, they loose all meaning.

[Andrew NDB]

That's the thing. It's just a forcefield they can insulate the movie with.

"I didn't like The Little Mermaid live action movie. I didn't think it was very good."

"Then you're probably a racist and a bigot!"

Etc., etc..

[Prowler]

Yep.

It's nice knowing that most people on these forums have some common sense. That's why I really like this place.

[CyberCubed]

I actually would have preferred Zendaya, she does a decent MJ so to speak. I guess she didn’t have the singing chops though.

[Egon1982]

In the end, its really up to us, the consumers.

If we stop paying Disney to go and watch Live Action remakes, they will stop making them.

Its that simple.


I agree, some of us have standards and need to be like Jay Sherman from The Critic and his immortal speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSWj5_-F9Q4

[Shark_Blade]

I actually would have preferred Zendaya, she does a decent MJ so to speak. I guess she didn’t have the singing chops though.

She actually sings pretty well tbh.

yO28Z5_Eyls

[Egon1982]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRmnbtSs1fw&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0_ql6LhEqdCTyP_tBWloDLe5HsQhrBGCEFEDPLa hvD9ufZg11guuTzJSo

This man's opinion in the video is right in line with how I feel about the race swapping with characters on film.

People can call me racist all they want to. But I know where my heart truly lies. I am not. I just am sick of these kind of lazy swaps. I have always thought that if you had a character that is written solely for a particular gender or race from the beginning and put resources into advertising to build that character up is a much better option than this race swapping.

True diversity on film is not giving any race hand me downs. It's giving them original characters that they can call their own. When you just offer hand me downs of other already established characters of a particular race? Usually white, that's only halfway to diversity at best if it is even true diversity in the first place. Is it really racist to want characters of different races to stand on their own two feet and not be an incarnation of some other character that they can't call their own?

I mean if your gonna do a new adaptation of Hans's story like do a modernize version set in modern day like Scrooged was to A Christmas Carol and Oliver and Company was to Oliver Twist, why not do that instead of a lazy remake of a Disney animated classic that uses same characters/names as the Disney film from 1989? laziness i see.

[ranger_scout]

Last week, Naomi Scott. who played Jasmine in Aladdin, welcomed Bailey to the live-action Disney Princess family.

@chloexhalle This girl is about to smash it up, y’all not even ready. Welcome baby gal ����������

https://twitter.com/NaomiScott/status/1146553373925236736

[Mr Salk]

I have no opinion on race-portrayal by mythical creatures, but Scott's post feeds into stereotypes.

[Autbot_Benz]

Last week, Naomi Scott. who played Jasmine in Aladdin, welcomed Berry to the live-action Disney Princess family.



https://twitter.com/NaomiScott/status/1146553373925236736

you know you don't have to post every person who is sucking up/welcoming her to the disney family its not gonna change some people's opinion on the casting

[Storm Eagle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRmnbtSs1fw&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0_ql6LhEqdCTyP_tBWloDLe5HsQhrBGCEFEDPLa hvD9ufZg11guuTzJSo

This man's opinion in the video is right in line with how I feel about the race swapping with characters on film.

People can call me racist all they want to. But I know where my heart truly lies. I am not. I just am sick of these kind of lazy swaps. I have always thought that if you had a character that is written solely for a particular gender or race from the beginning and put resources into advertising to build that character up is a much better option than this race swapping.

True diversity on film is not giving any race hand me downs. It's giving them original characters that they can call their own. When you just offer hand me downs of other already established characters of a particular race? Usually white, that's only halfway to diversity at best if it is even true diversity in the first place. Is it really racist to want characters of different races to stand on their own two feet and not be an incarnation of some other character that they can't call their own?

I mean if your gonna do a new adaptation of Hans's story like do a modernize version set in modern day like Scrooged was to A Christmas Carol and Oliver and Company was to Oliver Twist, why not do that instead of a lazy remake of a Disney animated classic that uses same characters/names as the Disney film from 1989? laziness i see.

Before I clicked on the link, I started to think I might have seen the video before, and I have. I'm familiar with that guy. He's also black like me, and I basically agree with most of what he said. I just never considered that these studios are just patronizing us by doing these things.

I'm starting to warm up to Disney's casting choice for the live-action Ariel, but there's still a part of me that wishes they had cast a white actress. I might check it out when it comes out on home video, but I don't need the racebending to make me feel validated as a minority.

For some reason, I haven't had issues with every racebending incident. I've stated before that Catwoman being black all of a sudden in the 60's series' third season seems weird to me, because how do you explain that? There was also the Catwoman movie that starred Halle Berry, who's mixed, yet her black features are more prominent. I'm not so bothered by that though, since that's a Catwoman from a different universe, and isn't Celina Kyle. So if Eartha Kitt's Catwoman is supposed to have a different identity, then I'm fine with that too.

There's someone who I've been talking to about this stuff, and she thinks it shouldn't matter the race of the actor playing a character since it's art. She told me that the play Oklahoma used to have just white actors. Also, even though there weren't many black people in Oklahoma at the time the play is set, there are now black actors who partake in the play.

[Vegita-San]

yep. this guy knows his points.

and if I said all that, I 'd be called a white supremecist from our friends on a certain side.


It's all rather simple. IF hollywood believed what it preached.. Static Shock would have had 4 movies under his belt by now. Black Panther would have happened first, rather than 30th.. Wonder Woman wouldn't have taken so long to get done..etc.

All that audience is doing is being deceived by accepting 'sloppy seconds'. and worse, sticking up for it like it's the best that can be had.

[ranger_scout]

Harry Styles is in talks to play Prince Eric. He certainly looks the part. I wonder if Eric will be getting a new song in this film, especially since Styles can sing.

Harry Styles in Talks to Play Prince Eric in Disney's Live-Action 'Little Mermaid' (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/harry-styles-talks-play-prince-eric-disneys-little-mermaid-1224669)


you know you don't have to post every person who is sucking up/welcoming her to the disney family its not gonna change some people's opinion on the casting

I'm sorry if me sharing the opinions of others was annoying you.

[ZariusTwo]

I'm sorry if me sharing the opinions of others was annoying you.

It's not so much opinions as it is rubbing the bias of elitist agenda-pushing shill hollywood in our faces. Of COURSE they're going to welcome her with open arms, that's to be expected.

[ranger_scout]

Variety's report on the story about Styles entering talks to play Eric says that McCarthy might have sealed the deal to play Ursula.

Halle Bailey will portray the eponymous princess who dreams of being a human, while Melissa McCarthy is playing the evil Ursula.

Harry Styles in Talks to Play Prince Eric in Disney’s ‘Little Mermaid’ (https://variety.com/2019/film/news/harry-styles-prince-eric-the-little-mermaid-disney-1203269289/)

[Shark_Blade]

I love 1D so this is fun :tlol: Hope he’ll get the part.

[Autbot_Benz]

Also Melissa Mccarthy as Ursula is terrible casting

[Shark_Blade]

Not feeling McCarthy either but at least I think she’ll be better than the awful live action Jaafar.

[ranger_scout]

Styles was actually waiting to see if would get the lead role in Baz Luhrmann's Elvis Presley biopic before committing to this project. If all goes well him not playing Elvis might turn out to be a blessing in disguise.

Styles was one of the contenders to play Elvis Presley in Baz Luhrmann’s movie. He was waiting to see if he landed that role after testing for it, before committing to Little Mermaid.

Harry Styles In Talks For Disney’s ‘Little Mermaid’ (https://deadline.com/2019/07/harry-styles-in-talks-for-disneys-little-mermaid-1202647244/)

Also, Disney Music's official Twitter showed that Alan Menken and Lin Manuel Miranda are continuing to work on the new songs.

⚠️ MAGIC MAKERS AT WORK!! ⚠️

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_m-YbhX4AAOBE7.jpg

https://twitter.com/DisneyMusic/status/1151160514623483904

[ranger_scout]

Javier Bardem is in talks to play King Triton. He wasn't the first person I had in mind for this part, but I think he'll be great.

Javier Bardem in Talks to Play King Triton in Disney’s ‘Little Mermaid’ (https://variety.com/2019/film/news/little-mermaid-javier-bardem-king-triton-disney-1203270668/)

you know you don't have to post every person who is sucking up/welcoming her to the disney family its not gonna change some people's opinion on the casting

It's not so much opinions as it is rubbing the bias of elitist agenda-pushing shill hollywood in our faces. Of COURSE they're going to welcome her with open arms, that's to be expected.

Well, longtime Disney voice actor Jim Cummings, who voiced King Triton in The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Beginning, bravely liked this Tweet from someone who didn't approve of the casting of Ariel and by doing that it sounds like he doesn't either. I don't think that he'll get in trouble for it and I certainly hope he doesn't.

Well, add another #ginger to the list that's been brown-washed. Man, does Hollywood just *really* hate Celtic people or what?

https://twitter.com/J_Ishiro/status/1146902046768975873

[Autbot_Benz]

J

Well, longtime Disney voice actor Jim Cummings, who voiced King Triton in The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Beginning, bravely liked this Tweet from someone who didn't approve of the casting of Ariel and by doing that it sounds like he doesn't either. I don't think that he'll get in trouble for it and I certainly hope he doesn't.



https://twitter.com/J_Ishiro/status/1146902046768975873

not surprised regarding Jim Cummings .

[ranger_scout]

not surprised regarding Jim Cummings.

I have admired Cummings as a person and an actor since I was a little boy. Lots of his colleagues consider him to be one of the nicest guys around. We all have different opinions, but now that I think about it I don't know if it was the best idea for him to like that Tweet. One of his good friends in the voice acting industry, Cree Summer, who has African-American heritage, is insanely talented and she's voiced characters in cartoons who aren't the same race as her. Penny from Inspector Gadget and Elmyra Duff from Tiny Toon Adventures are good examples. Summer was clearly cast in those parts because she obviously had the right voice that they were looking for.

[Sumac]

Everyone has right for their own opinion, as long as it not extreme.
Hating on someone for a mere disagreement is sign of mental illness.

[sdp]

Counting navels are a big no-no for Disney I wonder how they'll re-do the shell bikini. I'm guessing they'll go with a one piece swimsuit aquaman looking blouse. Almost as big of a screw up as having a black Ariel.

[Shark_Blade]

Yeah I don’t think they’re gonna go with sea shells - parading boobs and cleavages to little children is gonna get lots of angry moms sending death threats to Disney. Probably gonna be a part/full suit like Aquaman too but obviously with mermaid tail.

With cool suits like that, Atlantica would have been a high tech city too.

[Sumac]

Counting navels are a big no-no for Disney I wonder how they'll re-do the shell bikini. I'm guessing they'll go with a one piece swimsuit aquaman looking blouse. Almost as big of a screw up as having a black Ariel.
They give her a t-shirt with text "men sux". :lol:

[Shark_Blade]

https://i.imgur.com/3Zv0zi1.png

Don’t think a shirt gonna last in the ocean tho.

[raph27]

I'm imagining something like the teal scaly suit that Mera wore in Aquaman, except y'know with a tail instead of legs.

[Shark_Blade]

Harry Styles passed on the role of Prince Eric.

https://thedisinsider.com/2019/08/13/exclusive-harry-styles-has-officially-signed-on-to-play-prince-eric-in-the-little-mermaid/

[CyberCubed]

So this movie won’t just be an inter-species relationship between a mermaid and a human, but also an interracial one since Eric is still white. I wonder if that will come up in the movie similar to the taboo of Triton hating mermaids with humans, since Triton will be black most likely.

[Xav]

We don't know what race Eric will be as they haven't cast him yet. Also Javier Bardem isn't black.

[Coola Yagami]

We don't know what race Eric will be as they haven't cast him yet. Also Javier Bardem isn't black.

So Ariel isn't his real daughter but adopted? They just keep changing more and more things aren't they?

[Andrew NDB]

Also Javier Bardem isn't black.

For all we know the mom is Leslie Jones, though.

[ranger_scout]

Christian Navarro of 13 Reasons Why is auditioning for the part of Prince Eric now that Harry Styles is no longer up for the part. Should he get it, Disney would continue to diversify the cast by having a Latino play Eric.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/be/bd/2e/bebd2edcb64c22ca35e4336c5ec28b54.jpg

So I heard Harry Styles passed on Prince Eric, well...I can sing. Black Ariel/Latino Prince...no ones called but Season 3 drops next week and I think it’s one hell of an audition

Idk what happened to the other tweet.
But! @disney saw this, saw your support, and gave my team a call. They wanted to see what I could do. Tapes sent. Fingers crossed. Let’s make some history. #iloveyou3000 #PrinceEric #TheLittleMermaid https://twitter.com/ChristianLN0821/status/1161433438383009792 …

https://ew.com/movies/2019/09/03/13-reasons-why-christian-navarro-the-little-mermaid-prince-eric/

[CyberCubed]

Well a Latino being cast makes sense with a black Little Mermaid. I don’t think Eric has to be a white cis male.

[Andrew NDB]

Well a Latino being cast makes sense with a black Little Mermaid. I don’t think Eric has to be a white cis male.

They'll need someone to fill the "dopey white guy" capacity.

[AquaParade]

They'll need someone to fill the "dopey white guy" capacity.

*Scans for hidden Everett Ross reference*

[ranger_scout]

They'll need someone to fill the "dopey white guy" capacity.

*Scans for hidden Everett Ross reference*

They did that in the live-action Aladdin with the Prince Anders character.

[CyberCubed]

Well there is still Eric's butler, the old guy in the movie, he was white. And British if I remember right.

[Voltron]

Well a Latino being cast makes sense with a black Little Mermaid. I don’t think Eric has to be a white cis male.

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, would make me happier than to see Ariel's dreams go up in smoke because Eric is gay.

But it has to be a last minute sort of thing. Like:

Ariel: Eric. . . I love you!
Eric: Oh. That's um. . . hrm. . . that's nice and all, but
Ariel: What is it Eric?
Eric: I'm like, super gay.

Roll Credits to In the Navy by the Village People

[Leo656]

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, would make me happier than to see Ariel's dreams go up in smoke because Eric is gay.

But it has to be a last minute sort of thing. Like:

Ariel: Eric. . . I love you!
Eric: Oh. That's um. . . hrm. . . that's nice and all, but
Ariel: What is it Eric?
Eric: I'm like, super gay.

Roll Credits to In the Navy by the Village People


I will go all-in on this with you, buddy. We gotta get this sh*t made. The world deserves it.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

The more I see of this, the more certain I am that it will be a trainwreck, Ariel's singing voice be damned. It's just one big diversity roll-call, and one casting choice away from becoming a dumpster fire.

[ranger_scout]

The reason why Harry Styles turned the role of Prince Eric was because he wanted to focus on his music career.

Harry Styles Explains Passing on 'Little Mermaid' Prince Eric Role (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/harry-styles-explains-turning-down-little-mermaid-prince-eric-role-1237336)

[Sumac]

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, would make me happier than to see Ariel's dreams go up in smoke because Eric is gay.

But it has to be a last minute sort of thing. Like:

Ariel: Eric. . . I love you!
Eric: Oh. That's um. . . hrm. . . that's nice and all, but
Ariel: What is it Eric?
Eric: I'm like, super gay.

Roll Credits to In the Navy by the Village People
I visualized that...
It will be a hit!! :lol:

[ranger_scout]

Gavin Leatherwood of Chilling Adventures of Sabrina is the latest actor who auditioned for Prince Eric.

https://i1.wp.com/thedisinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/E4B6F643-CBC0-4AF7-A0F3-011A4503F1D2.jpeg?resize=750%2C430&ssl=1

Other actors reportedly in the mix are Jordan Fisher, Jacob Elordi, Timothee Chalamet, Cole Sprouse, and Niall Horan.

Gavin Leatherwood Auditions For Prince Eric Role In ‘The Little Mermaid’ (https://thedisinsider.com/2019/09/17/gavin-leatherwood-auditions-for-prince-eric-role-in-the-little-mermaid/)

[ranger_scout]

Both Krypton's Cameron Cuffe and Jonah Haur-King (A Dog's Way Home) are testing for the role of Prince Eric in the remake. I hope they make a decision soon.

https://deadline.com/2019/09/the-little-mermaid-prince-eric-cameron-cuffe-jonah-hauer-king-testing-role-1202743642/

[ranger_scout]

Daveed Diggs (Hamilton, Blindspotting) is in negotiations to play Sebastian.

https://deadline.com/2019/10/daveed-diggs-the-little-mermaid-cast-disney-1202755680/