View Full Version : Live Action Aladdin coming
Autbot_Benz
10-10-2016, 02:28 PM
You guys called it! Many of the comments on this article about Disney's new take on The Lion King rightly predicted that Aladdin would be next, and Deadline just broke the news that Guy Ritchie (Snatch, Sherlock Holmes, King Arthur: Legend of the Sword) is being lined up to helm a live-action adaptation of the Oscar-winning 1992 animated classic.
No other details have been provided, but best of luck to the actor they cast to follow the late Robin Williams' performance as The Genie.
Disney really do seem to be working their way through their back-catalog of films, and also have live-action interpretations of Beauty and The Beast and Mulan in the pipeline. What's next? let us know what you think in the usual place.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/fantasy/king-arthur-director-guy-ritchie-will-helm-a-live-action-adaptation-of-a145863
I'm excited to see a live action Jasmine. Yeeeeeeah boy.
Autbot_Benz
10-10-2016, 02:31 PM
I hate this Aladdin is my all time favorite disney animated movie. I don't care who they cast as Genie nobody beats Robin Williams as him
Disney is really running out of ideas if they have to make all there animated movies live action
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
10-10-2016, 02:37 PM
How about Lewis Black as the genie? :tlol:
CyberCubed
10-10-2016, 02:40 PM
They better cast all arabs and muslims as the main characters. The political correctness bashlash will be through the roof otherwise.
The Sultan flat out says, "Praise Allah" in the movie.
No references to the middle east setting outside stuff like buildings etc. Jazmine will be latina with a white complex and no midriff bearing.
Still I think their live action movies have been pretty well at adapting the stories so I'm up for it.
CyberCubed
10-10-2016, 02:46 PM
No references to the middle east setting outside stuff like buildings etc. Jazmine will be latina with a white complex and no midriff bearing.
Still I think their live action movies have been pretty well at adapting the stories so I'm up for it.
Jasmine's outfit is actually pretty suggestive when worn by a real life woman. She's basically wearing a bra for a top the entire movie.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
10-10-2016, 02:51 PM
Jasmine's outfit is actually pretty suggestive when worn by a real life woman. She's basically wearing a bra for a top the entire movie.
You really need to get out more. :tlol:
plastroncafe
10-10-2016, 02:54 PM
Though the names of its chief characters are Iranian, the frame story is probably Indian, and the largest proportion of names is Arabic. The tales’ variety and geographical range of origin—India, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Turkey, and possibly Greece—make single authorship unlikely; this view is supported by internal evidence—the style, mainly unstudied and unaffected, contains colloquialisms and even grammatical errors such as no professional Arabic writer would allow.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Thousand-and-One-Nights
With the same source listing Aladdin as being the...son of a deceased Chinese tailor and his poor widow, Aladdin is a lazy, careless boy who meets an African magician claiming to be his uncle. The magician brings Aladdin to the mouth of a cave and bids him enter and bring out a wonderful lamp that is inside, giving him a magic ring for his safety in the meantime.
So there's a whole lot of casting opportunities there.
Andrew NDB
10-10-2016, 02:55 PM
No references to the middle east setting outside stuff like buildings etc. Jazmine will be latina with a white complex and no midriff bearing.
Yeah, and watch it be Gary Oldman in brownface for Jaffar.
Raph's Girl
10-10-2016, 03:27 PM
I'm excited to see a live action Jasmine. Yeeeeeeah boy.
And you will in 2 weeks on Once Upon A Time (Aladdin is a savior so Jasmin's probably gonna die. Bad enough Jafar is the son of the Sultan...Unless that has been retconned) Or you can just watch "Kid in Aladdin's Palace", The Descendants stuff or any of the other live action Aladdin related films that have come out over the years.
In the UK there's an excellent live action Aladdin series called Jamillah and Aladdin. It's set in Baghdad about this modern day girl of Indian (the country) descent who inherits the lamp and has adventures in the past (the Genie's powers barely work right since he was in the lamp for like 1000 years). 2 seasons so far.
The joke was that I was being a dirty pervert, but now it's just weird that you're all like "there's other material for you to look at!"
MikeandRaph87
10-10-2016, 04:12 PM
How about Lewis Black as the genie? :tlol:
Bill Hader is the only choice!
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
10-10-2016, 04:17 PM
Bill Hader is the only choice!
Nah, Lewis Black would be awesome. Or maybe Kevin Hart.
Trying to think outside the box on this...
Vicky82
10-10-2016, 04:20 PM
Another movie I like to see in live action but come on Disney WE NEED A LIVE ACTION GARGOYLES MOVIE PLEASE.
Guy Ritchie is directing a Disney Movie :-?
That's pretty strange. I don't think he's a great director but I did enjoy Snatch and Lock, Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels though.
TigerClaw
10-10-2016, 05:36 PM
Hopefully Disney will find someone of middle eastern descent to play Aladdin.
snake
10-10-2016, 05:50 PM
I'm with Cure :lol:
Wildcat
10-10-2016, 11:14 PM
Cool this was the live action redo I wanted most. Aladdin is the Disney movie I liked most growing up.
Not that I don't like the others. Lion King should be cool too.
retr0pia75
10-10-2016, 11:37 PM
Why are these necessary? I mean, given how they're still making these even though Alice Through The Looking Glass flopped, it can't just be brand recgonition or money.
drgon78
10-11-2016, 06:04 AM
Without Robbin Williams as the genie there is no point to this movie and it is an insult to his memory to do it now.
Spike Spiegel
10-11-2016, 07:59 AM
I'll stick with my blu rays of the three animated movies. I have no desire to see this re-adapted, especially without Robin Williams.
I hope that Mulan remake at least gives Ming-Na Wen a cameo.
Leofan26
10-11-2016, 01:33 PM
Wow, add insult to injury for Robin Williams, first a lousy Jumanji remake with actors who shouldn't even be in it, Jack Black? Seriously? Now this?
How the Hell are they going to do Jenie live action? Abu I can see, all they gotta do is get themselves a monkey and how are they going to do the talking bird too? Both the Jenie and the talking bird are fan favorites in the Aladdin fan base.
They better follow suit with the story, the Animated version I mean.
I think I'll pass on this one. Me being a major fan of the films and series is already disappointed with what happened in Once upon a Time series.
TurtleTitan97
10-11-2016, 01:36 PM
How the Hell are they going to do Jenie live action? Abu I can see, all they gotta do is get themselves a monkey and how are they going to do the talking bird too?
You do realize that's why we have CGI to do this sort of thing, right?
Autbot_Benz
10-11-2016, 01:43 PM
I'll stick with my blu rays of the three animated movies. I have no desire to see this re-adapted, especially without Robin Williams..
I agree with this though I only have the first movie on blu ray I kinda don't care for the sequels
plastroncafe
10-11-2016, 02:11 PM
Talking birds?
Bah, never heard of such a thing.
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(Actually...this guy is my favorite...
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CyberCubed
10-11-2016, 02:16 PM
Without Robbin Williams as the genie there is no point to this movie and it is an insult to his memory to do it now.
Genie has already been voiced by people other than Robin Williams for years now in later spinoff and videogame material.
plastroncafe
10-11-2016, 02:17 PM
Didn't Dan Castellaneta do the Genie's voice in the animated series?
CyberCubed
10-11-2016, 02:20 PM
Yeah and the videogames like Kingdom Hearts too I think. Homer did a great Genie.
Leofan26
10-11-2016, 04:24 PM
With how the live action films Smurfs and Scooby Doo characters in CGI I worry what they'll have Genie look like :ohwell:
Please no real bird for Iago, it'd look just strange.
Awe I'm screwed either way with this film.
Though I did think it was odd how out of all the Disney adopted films they wouldn't do this one? Seems like it'd be one of the more easy Disney films to work with.
Sage Ninja
10-11-2016, 05:40 PM
I'm excited to see a live action Jasmine. Yeeeeeeah boy.
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/26700000/real-life-Jasmine-disney-princess-26768152-375-500.jpg
If Jasmine was live action she would be simply breathe taking. I have always loved Jasmine's looks the best out of all the princess's. I do hope they get an actual woman of middle eastern descent to play Princess Jasmine (and all the cast really). I mean I know it is most important is the acting ability and suitability of the actor, but I hope they do not just get some Italian or Hispanic something actor that only mildly looks the part to play the characters and actually go for authentic looks.
I have always found middle eastern women exceptionally beautiful. Their thick dark manes of hair, their olive skin complexions, that run any where from light to deep in tone, and their eyes! My God middle eastern women have most beautifully shaped eyes. I mean damn look:
[SPOILER]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/e8/70/5b/e8705bf22a2979067f58f57494a08392.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/84/17/c8/8417c81ad9f5ff24486bbfd7e5e75e27.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/8d/64/a0/8d64a067a7a44388ef6b068d99ff377e.jpg
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj3xPq-6dPPAhUMdz4KHSXTAUgQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stylecraze.com%2Farticles%2Ft he-secret-behind-the-beauty-of-the-women-from-the-arabian-lands%2F&bvm=bv.135475266,d.cWw&psig=AFQjCNGSdiQpHE5s5OZF4xtPYr047-n7AA&ust=1476311273552144
But at any rate I am happy they are doing Aladdin. Not upset about this.
Wildcat
10-11-2016, 11:33 PM
Here we go again with ridiculous complaints over insulting actors who have passed away like Ghostbusters and Harold Ramis.
Genie was not Robin Williams most memorable role and Genie wasn't even the main character. Plus it was animated and Jumanji was based in a book. They're movies. Nobody's insulting anyone.
Oh ya Disney needs to end Aladdin (of all things) forever because of Genie. Stop with the deliberate cynicism. I know some people just enjoy complaining about movies. The only one I could see anybody having a legitimate issue with would be Mrs. Doubtfire.
WebLurker
10-11-2016, 11:47 PM
It'll be interesting to see if the movie ties to that genie-centric prequel that was announced.
I'm curious if anything from the original story will be added to the movie (like the Genie in the ring, for example). It'll be hard to imagine someone other than Robin Williams (or someone mimicking Williams) as the Genie, but the live-action movies have had excellent casting so far, so I'm inclined to trust that they'll make the right call.
Raph's Girl
10-12-2016, 12:52 AM
With how the live action films Smurfs and Scooby Doo characters in CGI I worry what they'll have Genie look like :ohwell:
Please no real bird for Iago, it'd look just strange.
Iago could be a real bird and just not talk. He hasn't talked at all in Once Upon A Time.
As for Genie. Just watch Once Upon A Time to see how well they do him. Yeah he's not blue but he wasn't entirely blue either in "Kid In Aladdin's Palace" and that was a live action sequel to the animated films.
Leofan26
10-17-2016, 01:37 AM
Iago could be a real bird and just not talk. He hasn't talked at all in Once Upon A Time.
As for Genie. Just watch Once Upon A Time to see how well they do him. Yeah he's not blue but he wasn't entirely blue either in "Kid In Aladdin's Palace" and that was a live action sequel to the animated films.
If your a fan of the Animated films in the 90s you'd know how insulted Iago would be by this? He doesn't even like being asked if he wants a cracker, that's his berserk button.
I'm a fan of the Animated films and the series, you can only imagine how unhappy this makes me :(
Yes, I'm a wear of Genie's VA being casted a different VA in Return of Jafar and the series but that was back when Robin Williams was a live and had his reasons for not wanting to come back in those and he knew. With him being dead and doing this with him dead it just I don't know doesn't feel right to me :(
I'm not happy about the Jumunji remake for many other reasons.
ranger_scout
10-17-2016, 10:02 AM
I'm not happy about the Jumunji remake for many other reasons.
It's actually a continuation of the 1995 film not a reboot.
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/08/22/jumanji-dwayne-johnson-sequel-not-reboot
Andrew NDB
10-18-2016, 11:23 AM
How about a live action "Tailspin" movie, using the same assets (Baloo, etc.) from the live action Jungle Book?
plastroncafe
10-18-2016, 12:04 PM
If we're redoing the Disney afternoon screw movies, I just want a regular Darkwing Duck tv show.
Candy Kappa
10-18-2016, 12:16 PM
How about a live action "Tailspin" movie, using the same assets (Baloo, etc.) from the live action Jungle Book?
I'd watch it.
If we're redoing the Disney afternoon screw movies, I just want a regular Darkwing Duck tv show.
All the yes!
If your a fan of the Animated films in the 90s you'd know how insulted Iago would be by this? He doesn't even like being asked if he wants a cracker, that's his berserk button.
Iago isn't real, whackjob.
ranger_scout
04-19-2017, 01:40 PM
Will Smith is early talks to play the Genie. I think he would be great in this role.
http://deadline.com/2017/04/will-smith-genie-role-aladdin-disney-1202072355/
Andrew NDB
04-19-2017, 02:12 PM
Will Smith is early talks to play the Genie. I think he would be great in this role.
http://deadline.com/2017/04/will-smith-genie-role-aladdin-disney-1202072355/
Aw hell no...
They should have Sinbad play Genie in Aladdin. That way all those reports about Sinbad in that FAKE genie movie would be retroactively true, somewhat.
ProphetofGanja
04-19-2017, 02:47 PM
Aw hell no...
They should have Sinbad play Genie in Aladdin. That way all those reports about Sinbad in that FAKE genie movie would be retroactively true, somewhat.
Yes yes yes yes yes, this is good
CyberCubed
04-19-2017, 03:03 PM
Will Smith is almost 50 years old (he's 48 now), isn't he a little too old for this role? Genie was also rather, "big" and kind of "fat," in his chest area, Will Smith is far too thin.
Jester
04-19-2017, 03:06 PM
Genie will likely be augmented with CG, he typed thinking that was a foregone conclusion.
Vicky82
04-19-2017, 03:07 PM
Will Smith is almost 50 years old (he's 48 now), isn't he a little too old for this role? Genie was also rather, "big" and kind of "fat," in his chest area, Will Smith is far too thin.
Genie would be CGI won't he, so Will Smith will just be voice acting.
CyberCubed
04-19-2017, 03:10 PM
Wouldn't they still use Will Smith's face? They could only need to CG his magic/floating scenes.
ranger_scout
06-13-2017, 02:59 PM
Alan Menken says the movie will begin filming begins this August:
Can you give us any teasers of what to expect with Aladdin?
It’s a very fluid process. Guy Ritchie is directing and he’s never directed a musical before so it’s going to be a lot of attempts to reinvent the wheel. Where it’s re-inventable, we will do it and where it’s not, we will discover that together. But it has to be a very fast discovery process because at this point shooting is supposed to start in August.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7825906/alan-menken-interview-songwriters-hall-of-fame
Reports are saying that Jade Thirlwall of Little Mix has been cast as Jasmine.
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a828886/little-mix-jade-thirlwall-princess-jasmine-aladdin-remake/
Also, I'm not going to believe it right now because a tabloid known as The Sun originally reported it, but there's a rumor that Tom Hardy is being eyed to play Jafar.
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a830461/guy-ritchie-cast-tom-hardy-jafar-live-action-aladdin-movie/
ProactiveMan
06-14-2017, 02:33 AM
Why is Guy Ritchie directing a live action Aladdin? Who's doing the Little Mermaid? Nicolas Winding Refn?!
ranger_scout
07-12-2017, 11:42 AM
Disney is having a difficult time finding the right actors to play Aladdin and Jasmine. Production was supposed to begin this month, but now it won't begin until August. Power Rangers actress Naomi Scott and Tara Sutaria are also being considered for the role of Jasmine.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/aladdin-movie-disney-struggles-find-stars-1019690
GoldMutant
07-12-2017, 11:50 AM
Disney is having a difficult time finding the right actors to play Aladdin and Jasmine. Production was supposed to begin this month, but now it won't begin until August. Power Rangers actress Naomi Scott and Tara Sutaria are also being considered for the role of Jasmine.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/aladdin-movie-disney-struggles-find-stars-1019690
According to Twitter, some people really want former Victorious star Avan Jogia (who played Beck) and Jade Thirlwall from the girl group Little Mix as Aladdin and Jasmine.
Personally, I don't see this movie being good right now. Then again, if it's to find the right people to represent the characters' appearance, I understand. The Last Airbender, for example, missed the point of Avatar by whitewashing nearly, if not all, the cast.
It's certainly frustrating regardless. :ohwell:
Andrew NDB
07-12-2017, 11:51 AM
Whoever they cast, Jasmine better look like this:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/75/b8/60/75b860bbcdb28634df2792722d58a3f2.jpg
What? Oh. Wrong picture. Like THIS:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/06/e9/9f/06e99fa13cb29bb665be6112411b3951--aladdin-cosplay-disney-cosplay.jpg
For Aladdin they'll probably just cast the Slumdog Millionaire/Avatar guy like they do for everything else.
plastroncafe
07-12-2017, 11:59 AM
I've seen reports that they're slated to white-wash Aladdin.
So there's that.
Andrew NDB
07-12-2017, 12:12 PM
I've seen reports that they're slated to white-wash Aladdin.
Yikes. This is definitely a movie where that is absolutely something they can't do.
Jester
07-12-2017, 01:26 PM
But...isn't Aladdin Chinese?
CyberCubed
07-12-2017, 01:50 PM
Why don't they cast the main character from, "The Raid" as Alladdin? He can already do acrobatics so when Aladdin is jumping around and swinging swords he knows what to do.
I think that actor is Indonesian, isn't he? Close enough to play Aladdin.
Why don't they cast the main character from, "The Raid" as Alladdin? He can already do acrobatics so when Aladdin is jumping around and swinging swords he knows what to do.
I think that actor is Indonesian, isn't he? Close enough to play Aladdin.
"Close enough", Jesus Christ. Also, that man is old and can't pass for a teenager. Which Aladdin is.
Andrew NDB
07-12-2017, 02:22 PM
"Close enough", Jesus Christ. Also, that man is old and can't pass for a teenager. Which Aladdin is.
Might as well get the Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story guy, at that point.
CyberCubed
07-12-2017, 02:56 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iko_Uwais
He's only 34, he's not that old. They usually have adults play teenagers in movies anyway.
Jester
07-12-2017, 02:59 PM
That's older than I am...:o
He doesn't. Look. Like a teenager.
TurtleWA
07-12-2017, 03:08 PM
I liked Jason Momoa in the red road. Never seen any of his other films. He could be genie or jafar. Probably the rock will be in it because he is in everything. Rock did sing in moana so if it has singing he's got experience.
NinjaPug
07-12-2017, 04:25 PM
Jesus. Iko Uwais would be terrible for Aladdin.
Is Will Smith still playing the Genie in this?
Shark_Blade
07-12-2017, 07:06 PM
Perfect for Aladdin:
http://imgur.com/mwsLHij.jpg
Avan Jogia. Thank me later.
CyberCubed
07-12-2017, 08:17 PM
I have no idea who that is, but he looks good enough. They just need to give him a haircut to fit Aladdin's hair style.
ProactiveMan
07-13-2017, 07:32 PM
If Disney are searching for cultural authenticity in Aladdin, they are on fool's errand. The stories in A Thousand and One Nights were cribbed from all over the place - like someone said earlier, Aladdin is probably supposed to be Chinese.
On top of that, their version is more Broadway than anything, and it's set in a culturally weird, fictitious location, based on a story that probably doesn't reflect any kind of geographical reality in the first place.
ranger_scout
07-14-2017, 01:24 PM
Perfect for Aladdin:
http://imgur.com/mwsLHij.jpg
Avan Jogia. Thank me later.
He is being considered for the role.
http://www.tmz.com/2017/07/14/aladdin-movie-internet-favorite-avan-jogia-auditioned-for-role/
Donatello19
07-15-2017, 12:52 PM
I really hope he gets it, he was great in Victorious. I don't know how well he can sing (hopefully better than Emma Watson as Belle :P) but otherwise I think he's perfect for Aladdin.
Now they just need to make a live action Hercules with Chris Evans in the leading role and I'll be happy as can be :D
NinjaPug
07-15-2017, 01:40 PM
They've cast Aladdin and Jasmine.
@DisneyD23: Mena Massoud, Naomi Scott, and Will Smith lead the live-action cast of Aladdin #D23Expo
I hope more of the Power Rangers kids get constant work; I like them.
ranger_scout
07-15-2017, 07:20 PM
They've cast Aladdin and Jasmine.
@DisneyD23: Mena Massoud, Naomi Scott, and Will Smith lead the live-action cast of Aladdin #D23Expo
I'm thrilled that Naomi will be playing Jasmine. Smith is a great choice for the Genie. Plus, here's everything we need to know about Mena Massoud. Robin Williams actually inspired him to become an actor.
http://ew.com/movies/2017/07/15/who-is-mena-massoud-aladdin/
Autbot_Benz
08-04-2017, 01:46 PM
http://collider.com/aladdin-remake-jafar-marwan-kenzari/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=social#poster
Jafar might be played by Marwan Kenzari
Also there will be a new character named Mara handmaiden and friend to Jasmine played by Nasim Pedrad. I guess she is taking the place of Jasmine's Pet Tiger Raja ?
TigerClaw
08-04-2017, 05:51 PM
http://collider.com/aladdin-remake-jafar-marwan-kenzari/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=social#poster
Jafar might be played by Marwan Kenzari
Also there will be a new character named Mara handmaiden and friend to Jasmine played by Nasim Pedrad. I guess she is taking the place of Jasmine's Pet Tiger Raja ?
I hope they don't replace Raja, who was also in the animated movie, They should have no problem creating a CGI Tiger.
ranger_scout
09-06-2017, 06:53 PM
Production has officially begun. Here are some members of the cast taking a photo together.
http://cdn2-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/2017/09/Aladdin.jpg
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/885263-aladdin-filming#/slide/1
Navid Negahban has also been cast as the Sultan and Billy Magnussen will be playing a new character named Prince Andres.
http://deadline.com/2017/09/navid-negahban-disney-aladdin-remake-1202162634/
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/disneys-live-action-aladdin-casts-billy-magnussen-as-new-character-1035329
ranger_scout
09-12-2017, 06:15 PM
Disney will be releasing the film on May 24, 2019. Star Wars: Episode IX was previously scheduled for release on Memorial Weekend 2019, but that will now be released in December 2019.
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/887043-walt-disney-studios-sets-release-dates-for-aladdin-artemis-fowl-and-more#/slide/1
ranger_scout
11-08-2017, 11:22 AM
Naomi Scott did an interview with The Hollywood Reporter about reinventing Jasmine for this film.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/aladdin-star-naomi-scott-is-reinventing-jasmine-shes-a-multidimensional-woman-1055350
ranger_scout
01-02-2018, 01:13 PM
During an interview, Alan Menken talked about writing a new song for Jasmine.
Next up, you have Aladdin with more new songs.
Those are in the can now and written already. I’ve written two new songs. We’ve re-written a lot of the older material to fit a live-action film as opposed to a stage or animated film and fit having Will Smith as the genie rather than Robin Williams. One of our agendas with Aladdin has been to give a big moment to Princess Jasmine. A moment where it’s a woman’s empowerment number. The title is called Speechless and I’ll leave it at that. I’m so looking forward to people hearing that.
http://www.awardsdaily.com/2018/01/01/interview-alan-menken-beauty-beast-writing-magical-disney-songs/
ranger_scout
01-07-2018, 12:39 PM
Despite the film having 400 performers who are either Indian, Middle Eastern, African, Mediterranean or Asian, the movie is being criticized for 100 white actors help fill the many background roles, stunt positions, dancers and “camel handlers” needed. Disney has released a statement following this report:
“Great care was taken to put together one of the largest most diverse casts ever seen on screen,” responded a Disney spokesperson. “Diversity of our cast and background performers was a requirement and only in a handful of instances when it was a matter of specialty skills, safety and control (special effects rigs, stunt performers and handling of animals) were crew made up to blend in.”
http://deadline.com/2018/01/disney-aladdin-criticized-media-browning-up-1202237376/
Everyone has to be extra careful to not make the FAKE news round blogs, which will happen anyway, imagine if today's blogs existed when the animated movie came out.
I'm thinking for this very reason this movie will be sanitized as hell and won't take any chances, it'll likely be the worse of the live action adaptations which is sad since it was the one I was most excited about. I was hoping we'd get the actors wear their original outfits at least for one scene in the movie but I don't see it happening at all, especially Jazmine.
Sumac
01-07-2018, 03:46 PM
Despite the film having 400 performers who are either Indian, Middle Eastern, African, Mediterranean or Asian, the movie is being criticized for 100 white actors help fill the many background roles, stunt positions, dancers and “camel handlers” needed. Disney has released a statement following this report:
If this is true, I can't...what next? Having white people anywhere will be considered offensive?
This is start to smell like racism against white people. :o
No one in Aladdin should be white though.
FredWolfLeonardo
01-07-2018, 04:12 PM
Aladdin and Jasmine were both voiced by the white people in the original animated film and hardly looked or sounded Arab.
The outrage is ridiculous. Might as well complain about Jasmine not wearing a Burqa or Aladdin not having a full blown beard.
Sumac
01-07-2018, 04:36 PM
No one in Aladdin should be white though.
Even background characters, whose faces you most likely will never see upclose?
I mean, from position of the setting, than probably yes, there shouldn't be white characters. Though why not? It's not like white people were not existing at the time of the story, but whatever.
But from position of moviemaking - isn't it ridiculous?
But you can't go all the way to the other extreme that they're racist against whites either. The extreme left is already looking foolish because of things like these but when you counter with extreme right believes it neglects the point and they can justify it as "only nazis have a problem with it".
Two wrongs don't make a right.
There shouldn't be white roles in Aladdin, background characters that you can't see is perfectly fine especially if they're "tanned" or brownish.
The outrage is ridiculous. Might as well complain about Jasmine not wearing a Burqa or Aladdin not having a full blown beard.
Almost, you can bet Jasmine won't be wearing her original outfit. And yet she will be a strong female based on interviews. No consistency.
ranger_scout
01-07-2018, 04:58 PM
There is also this little bit of controversy that is mentioned in the report.
The Times story quotes extra Kaushal Odedra, described as a stand in for one of the leads, as seeing as many as 20 “very fair skinned” actors in line outside make-up tents “waiting to have their skin darkened.”
“Disney are sending out a message that your skin colour, your identity, your life experiences amount to nothing that can be powered on and washed off,” Odedra told The Times.
http://deadline.com/2018/01/disney-aladdin-criticized-media-browning-up-1202237376/
Because they are afraid that their cast members aren't "brown" enough for the extreme left and blogs are salivating at all the clickbait they'll be able to publish after the movie comes out to spark controversy and divide people politically further.
I think it must be tough for big companies right now as they have to appease the blogs or be swamped with "bad PR" that they create for the sake of clicks.
Sumac
01-07-2018, 05:12 PM
Almost, you can bet Jasmine won't be wearing her original outfit. And yet she will be a strong female based on interviews. No consistency.
I hope it won't be like with Rey.
For me it depends how it'll be handled, it can work but some of the quotes I've seen leave me worried. I want to love this movie but we'll see, I won't get a real look at the movie until the first trailer I guess.
This and Lion King are the two live action Disney adaptations I've actually cared about.
edit: just saw this movie is 2019, too early to be talking about it.
Autbot_Benz
01-07-2018, 05:36 PM
As someone who loves the Animated movie to death I am not excited for this movie one bit. I hope they don't **** it up.
Utrommaniac
01-07-2018, 05:44 PM
I mean, it's not like there are white-passing Middle Easterners, right? Right???
Shark_Blade
01-07-2018, 06:04 PM
White people has no place in Aladdin. We had enough movies with washing as it is (Exodus, Ghost in the Shell, Netflix's Death Note, etc).
I just remember Will Smith is Genie. Doubt he would be like Robbie Williams though.
Sumac
01-07-2018, 06:28 PM
White people has no place in Aladdin.
Neither Middle Easterns, since originally tale took place in (heavily mythologized) China. :P
But seriously, no-one says about white people on main roles. We are talking strictly of background characters and stunt doubles. They can not be in the movie to because color of their skin?
You know what it's called like?
FredWolfLeonardo
01-07-2018, 06:33 PM
And there's such a thing as acting, where you can become someone you're not in real life.
Charlton Heston was not Hebrew, yet his portrayal of Moses in The Ten Commandments was great.
Redeemer
01-07-2018, 06:43 PM
White people has no place in Aladdin. We had enough movies with washing as it is (Exodus, Ghost in the Shell, Netflix's Death Note, etc).
I just remember Will Smith is Genie. Doubt he would be like Robbie Williams though.
Death Note is like one of the worse examples :lol: that was purposely made to be an Americanized version of the Death Note story and the made "L" one of the main characters black on top of that.
But I agree there has been enough "white washing" or washing in general definitely. I just hope this movie is good and honors the Aladin we grew up with. Arabic story in an Arabic settings.
:lol: I have to say I think its funny that people are complaining about this so much, but not the actress who is playing starfire :lol:
:lol: I have to say I think its funny that people are complaining about this so much, but not the actress who is playing starfire :lol:
Well Starfire is orange so the race of who plays her is irrelevant she'll need to be painted. If she remains black then I'll be angry but I would've been angry at a white Starfire too, unless she had one of those fake tans that makes her look orange :lol:
And there's such a thing as acting, where you can become someone you're not in real life.
Charlton Heston was not Hebrew, yet his portrayal of Moses in The Ten Commandments was great.
Naomi Scott was Kimberly in Power Rangers and it worked because she's "white enough" to pass it off, and she's great here because she's "brown enough" for me, though I wouldn't mind if she were tanner in this movie. I might not be choosing the best words but I guess my point comes across.
People having issues with races of the characters they like is logical, I usually don't care as long as they can "pass off" as the race the character normally is.
In other cases like Death Note it was more of an "american" take than Light/L trying to be those characters from the manga so it was ok, well the movie was kind of bad but you know what I mean. When it comes to manga that characters aren't technically Japanese I don't care, in the case of Ghost in the Shell it didn't matter much to me. In Spawn I was mad that they made some characters white so it wouldn't feel like "a black film". Kingpin in Daredevil(movie) I was fine with since he gave such an awesome performance that I couldn't see anyone else. Bane not being Latino in TDKRises was a shame though.
Basically my stand is:
I hate when characters are changed their ethnicity for whatever reason when they already have one while some only want white people because their bigots and others only want people of color because they think it's only fair.
Candy Kappa
01-07-2018, 07:07 PM
Neither Middle Easterns, since originally tale took place in (heavily mythologized) China. :P
Which is true. Alladin originates from China and was incorporated into 1001 nights in the French translation in the 19th century, it's kinda funny that arguable to most well known 1001 story is not actually from the original text or Arabic.
While Alladin gotta be Chinese, the bad wizard is a Berber though, and the names, in-story customs and titles like Sultan are more Arabic then Chinese. But I've read that it most likely took place in the Muslim provinces of China, but I think the Emperor would be interested to hear there was a Sultan in China :P
Neither Middle Easterns, since originally tale took But seriously, no-one says about white people on main roles. We are talking strictly of background characters and stunt doubles. They can not be in the movie to because color of their skin?
You know what it's called like?
At one hand, it would be nice to have a Hollywood movie with all Arabic/middle-eastern cast since Hollywood have a really iffy history with casting of middle-eastern actors, at another hand that's not gonna happen, though.
And, with Agrabah being a analog for Baghdad, and this is a LA version of Disney's adaptation. There should be Vikings wandering around doing trade in the background, Baghdad was a capitol city, a huge trading hub for the Silk Road so anyone from Europe, Africa and Asia would do trade there.
So BG characters should be diverse.
And there's such a thing as acting, where you can become someone you're not in real life.
Charlton Heston was not Hebrew, yet his portrayal of Moses in The Ten Commandments was great.
There's also John Wayne as Genghis Khan :lol:
Sumac
01-07-2018, 07:25 PM
Which is true. Alladin originates from China and was incorporated into 1001 nights in the French translation in the 19th century, it's kinda funny that arguable to most well known 1001 story is not actually from the original text or Arabic.
While Alladin gotta be Chinese, the bad wizard is a Berber though, and the names, in-story customs and titles like Sultan are more Arabic then Chinese. But I've read that it most likely took place in the Muslim provinces of China, but I think the Emperor would be interested to hear there was a Sultan in China :P
Yeah, I've read that original version was kind of weird mix of Chinese names and Arabian mythology. So, initially it could have been an Arabian story anyway, but set in "China" for some reason.
LeotheLateBloomer
01-07-2018, 10:26 PM
I'm sure Naomi Scott will do well. It's great to see her in a much bigger role.
ProactiveMan
01-09-2018, 08:47 PM
This whole thing seems a little performative. Naomi Scott is British, Mena Massoud is Canadian, Marwan Kenzari is Dutch. Casting a cheese-ball Broadway musical version of Aladdin with sort’a kind’a Middle Eastern actors (or North Africans – because apparently that’s close enough) doesn’t add cultural authenticity. If Disney are worried about being accused of ‘cultural appropriation’, this doesn’t really absolve them in any way.
I have no problem with their casting choices, but I wish they’d get down from their high-horse and stop pretending they give two sh*ts about anything other than their shareholders.
Papenbrook
01-09-2018, 10:18 PM
Disney admits it. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2018/01/09/disney-defends-browning-white-actors-roles-live-action-aladdin/)
FredWolfLeonardo
01-09-2018, 10:49 PM
Disney admits it. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2018/01/09/disney-defends-browning-white-actors-roles-live-action-aladdin/)
I don't see anything wrong with it, actors have make up all the time.
ranger_scout
01-18-2018, 11:20 AM
Here is what David Negahban, who is playing the Sultan, had to say about the recent reports of darkening the skin color of white actors.
“It’s not whitewashing,” he said. “The thing is that the garden should be filled with flowers of different kinds. If not, the garden is going to be very boring. So you’re gonna go and see this beautiful garden with colourful flowers, and I just hope that you enjoy the journey.”
He added: “Just go enjoy the journey because you will definitely love the film. It doesn’t matter how old you are, the film has something for you to take away from it.”
https://etcanada.com/news/286681/aladdin-under-fire-after-accusations-of-darkening-white-actors-skin-colour/
Sumac
01-18-2018, 12:54 PM
Disney admits it. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2018/01/09/disney-defends-browning-white-actors-roles-live-action-aladdin/)
The horror.
The sheer horror of the fact that some of the actors who will appear in the background for maybe maximum 10-15 minutes in the movie with non-white lead, are not-minorities is so horrible and regressive, that we must immediately start a strike against Disney!
Write petitions and angry Tumblrs about them! This is the way of progress - making big steaming pile of **** out of literally non-issue. :roll:
plastroncafe
01-18-2018, 12:58 PM
Well that's tacky as heck.
I'd say I'd expected better of Disney, but...it's not as though they have a history of better.
Candy Kappa
01-18-2018, 02:06 PM
The horror.
The sheer horror of the fact that some of the actors who will appear in the background for maybe maximum 10-15 minutes in the movie with non-white lead, are not-minorities is so horrible and regressive, that we must immediately start a strike against Disney!
Write petitions and angry Tumblrs about them! This is the way of progress - making big steaming pile of **** out of literally non-issue. :roll:
Well, it depends on how much "browning up" were talking about. Are they making the White actors look more tan which would be natural for light skinned people that's been in the sun for too long, or is it Brown/Black Face.
Huge difference, and people are iffy about that. Plus why not save the paint and just hire tan or dark skinned people to begin with.
ranger_scout
01-25-2018, 11:43 AM
Filming has been completed.
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/916663-disneys-live-action-aladdin-has-wrapped-production
Sumac
01-25-2018, 01:01 PM
Huge difference, and people are iffy about that. Plus why not save the paint and just hire tan or dark skinned people to begin with.
Because, maybe, there are not enough competent people with certain skin color, where are they trying to film a movie?
Donatello19
01-26-2018, 01:11 PM
"A Disney spokesman told BBC Newsbeat that cast and crew members were "made up to blend in" only in "a handful of instances when it was a matter of specialty skills, safety and control," such as when stunt artists or animal handlers were required."
Really nothing to get upset over...
ranger_scout
04-20-2018, 12:44 PM
Earlier this month I met Linda Larkin, who has been the voice of Jasmine for 25 years, and she said that she totally approves of Naomi Scott playing Jasmine. She can't wait to see her performance. Also, I found this photo on IMDB.
https://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BNWQ0YWJhMjUtZWUwZi00MDk5LWE3ZDAtNTYwODE4MzkzNj kxXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNzQwNzE0NjE@._V1_.jpg
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6139732/mediaviewer/rm2424326912
ranger_scout
04-24-2018, 06:29 PM
Here are the details of what people at Cinema Con got to see for the film.
For Aladdin, which bows May 24, 2019, the featurette featured stars Will Smith, Mena Massoud and Naomi Scott in a fresh and vibrant take on the 1992 original. “Aladdin is one of those perfect stories. It just burrows down inside of you. You don’t know when you saw it. You don’t know how you know every word to the songs. You just do,” Smith said in the video. New distribution head Cathleen Taff describes Smith’s take on Genie as “a little Fresh Prince, a little Hitch, and a whole lot of attitude.” Along with songs from the classics as well as new tunes, the updated version will feature elaborate dance sequences.
http://deadline.com/2018/04/dumbo-tim-burton-disney-cinemacon-1202375647/
FredWolfLeonardo
04-24-2018, 06:39 PM
New distribution head Cathleen Taff describes Smith’s take on Genie as “a little Fresh Prince
I see what you did there :tlol:
ranger_scout
04-24-2018, 08:20 PM
I also saw this earlier.
Those in attendance also got a sneak peek of Mena Massoud as Aladdin, decked out in white as he dashes through the labyrinth of market streets in sequences that Smith said were “really exciting” and befitting of the cinematic style of director Guy Ritchie. The video also offered a brief look at Naomi Scott’s Princess Jasmine wearing her iconic turquoise costume and flowing pink robes as she sings and dances.
http://ew.com/movies/2018/04/24/disney-new-aladdin-genie-robin-williams/
ranger_scout
08-15-2018, 09:49 AM
Justin Paul and Benj Pasek, who have been working with Alan Menken on the film's soundtrack, have given some details on the new songs for the movie and a few of the changes they made the original ones.
“We got to write a new song for Jasmine,” Paul tells Variety. “Alan wrote a beautiful piece of music and [Scott] is incredible.”
They also wrote a duet for Aladdin and Jasmine. “It’s a sweet song,” Paul said.
They even got to write a new verse for the original film’s “Arabian Nights.” “Aladdin” is set for release on May 24, 2019.
https://variety.com/2018/film/news/aladdin-justin-paul-and-benj-pasek-reveal-details-of-new-songs-for-live-action-reboot-exclusive-1202904865/
ranger_scout
09-03-2018, 05:36 PM
Last month, Disney reportedly had the cast come over to England to do some reshoots. The company wasn't satisfied with the first cut and they really want this film to achieve the same level of enormous success of last year's Beauty and the Beast. After response to the very Middle-Eastern extras used, they decided to get more for the crowd scenes. Plus, Will Smith's performance as the Genie is so great that they decided to expand his role.
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ranger_scout
10-10-2018, 02:52 PM
Will Smith has released the first official poster featuring the Genie's lamp.
“LEMME OUT! Can’t wait for y’all to see Me BLUE!”
http://cdn3-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/gallery/aladdin-live-action/aladdinposter.jpg
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/995023-will-smith-shares-aladdin-poster-with-genies-lamp?scrlybrkr=d0a9a5a1
Vicky82
10-11-2018, 01:20 PM
Teaser Trailer will come out tonight.
https://www.cbr.com/disney-aladdin-trailer-release-time/?utm_content=buffer027f1&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_campaign=CBR-TW
TigerClaw
10-11-2018, 08:57 PM
Here's the Trailer
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Autbot_Benz
10-11-2018, 09:00 PM
Here's the Trailer
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that looks terrible
ranger_scout
10-11-2018, 09:05 PM
Here's the Trailer
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It sounds like they got Frank Welker to do the voice of the Cave of Wonders again, so that would be cool if it turns out to be true. I was hoping that the Cave would've moved its mouth like the animated version, but that still might happen. Mena Massoud looks great as Aladdin in his brief little moment.
TigerClaw
10-11-2018, 09:07 PM
It sounds like they got Frank Welker to do the voice of the Cave of Wonders again, so that would be cool if it turns out to be true. I was hoping that the Cave would've moved its mouth like the animated version, but that still might happen. Mena Massoud looks great as Aladdin in his brief little moment.
Also you see Iago in this Teaser. I wonder who is voicing him. and I hope Rajah is in this remake also.
Autbot_Benz
10-11-2018, 09:10 PM
sorry Disney all you need is the animated movie. Period
How does it look terrible? We barely saw anything and of what we saw I have to say I liked it a lot.
sdp fact of the day: he had 2 Aladdin themed birthday parties
ranger_scout
10-11-2018, 09:15 PM
Also you see Iago in this Teaser. I wonder who is voicing him. and I hope Rajah is in this remake also.
It's already been confirmed that Rajah will appear in the movie along with Abu.
https://www.cinemablend.com/news/1723130/the-aladdin-remake-may-have-jasmines-tiger-after-all
https://thedisinsider.com/2017/11/30/abu-to-appear-in-the-live-action-aladdin-remake/
TigerClaw
10-11-2018, 09:18 PM
It's already been confirmed that Rajah will appear in the movie along with Abu.
https://www.cinemablend.com/news/1723130/the-aladdin-remake-may-have-jasmines-tiger-after-all
https://thedisinsider.com/2017/11/30/abu-to-appear-in-the-live-action-aladdin-remake/
That's good to know.
TigerClaw
10-12-2018, 08:07 PM
Original Aladdin Writer Isn’t Too Happy About Disney’s Live-Action Remake
https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/original-aladdin-writer-reveals-downside-disneys-liveaction-remakes/
Wildcat
10-13-2018, 12:49 AM
He’s gonna squabble over a rhyme they wrote for a franchise Disney owns? :roll: I mean I get it’s technically their writing but come on.
Anyway looks cool. This was my favorite Disney Animated movie growing up so it’s the live action remake I’m really looking forward to the most.
Leo656
10-13-2018, 12:58 AM
Well, if you're going to be making a profit off of someone else's work, it's only fair to throw 'em a nickel. Disney certainly has the nickels to throw.
I've never liked how these kinds of things are structured, contractually. It's always so biased in favor of the studios vs. people who actually create things. Yes, you're an employee, but you're also a content creator; if the company is going to be making money off of your work forever, I've always felt it's only fair that an arrangement be reached where the creator is entitled to further compensation in the future as well.
Wildcat
10-13-2018, 01:49 AM
The thing is they must have made way more money over the years from home video releases and royalties. Plus making other Disney movies.
To get mad because they used a rhyme seems like scraping the bottom of the barrel...just because. Asking for t-shirts or park passes? It really means that much that’d you’d settle for a “cookie”?
People like saying how Disney is full of money and can afford anything (which is true) but their writers/directors/actors are quite rich too.
If they ripped half the script or something I could understand but how does anyone expect a remake to not include reused dialogue or phrases?
Leo656
10-13-2018, 02:12 AM
You assume they did, but you don't know they did.
It's a matter of respect as well as compensation.
To wit: Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster were paid $130 for the rights to Superman under a "work for hire" contract with National Periodicals. That's what their service was valued as being "worth" in 1940-ish. When National/DC continued to publish the Superman character, as well as translate the work from print into other media such as radio, TV, film, and toys, they continued to see profit from Siegel and Shuster's work, making millions upon millions of dollars while Jerry and Joe went broke, living as paupers into old age.
Over the next few decades, MANY people, both fans and people in the industry, said to DC, "This is kinda screwed up. Those guys gave you a product that you're making a fortune off of. You really should throw them another bone." DC, for 30-odd years, said "Nope. We already paid them. That was the deal, fair's fair." Their names were even taken off of the work, out of spite. Eventually, they caved, but only in the late 1970s in the lead-up to the Superman film, where many respected comic book talents and even Hollywood folks threw their two cents in, loudly and publicly, about what a sh*tty deal DC had given the guys who created Superman. Due to not wanting to open their blockbuster film amidst a wave of negative public opinion, DC caved and paid Jerry and Joe a tidy sum in lieu of a pension. But before that, the "official" line was, "DC Comics created Superman. F*ck those two guys, they were just two guys under contract." Which is *technically* sort of true, but not really; DC only published the physical work that someone else created. Without that work, there's no billion-dollar franchise. "Fair's fair."
If anyone says, "They should have been happy with the $130," they're an asshole.
Point is, if you're a billion dollar corporation, and you're going to continually profit off of someone else's work, and your initial agreement with them only entitled them to a pittance, the least you can do is keep throwing them a bone if you're going to keep Xeroxing their stuff and giving yourself credit. That's literally called theft and plagiarism.
The guy shouldn't have to ask for things like a T-shirt, he's just making a point that it's more about principle than money. He shouldn't have to ask, they should be kind enough to offer. Especially if it's anything like the Beauty & The Beast situation, where they literally just came up with two more minutes of material and called it a new movie. :lol:
Again, writers often get screwed over in these kinds of things, as "that's the biz", but it's not entirely fair. And it's not only unfair to assume that they've already been fairly compensated, it's often blatantly untrue. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. If the guy sees fit to speak on it publicly, then I'm inclined to think not in this case. And it doesn't sound like he's asking for much; just an acknowledgement that "Yes, we're copy/pasting your work, thanks for that and here's a quarter." Doesn't sound at all unreasonable to me.
Then again, this is the same company that promised Robin Williams they definitely wouldn't use him to advertise the original Aladdin, then went ahead and did anyway. So I guess they just kinda make up their own rules as they go and just hash it out in court later. :lol:
Wildcat
10-13-2018, 03:21 AM
I think it’s a little different than the Superman thing. The franchise belongs to Disney first (and yes I’m aware it’s funny considering Aladdin and such is public domain and based on others work).
My point is he didn’t sell off his own property, rights and all, without recognition. Having continued to work for Disney since, I can only assume he was fairly paid for Aladdin.
Leo656
10-13-2018, 03:31 AM
It is different, but still in the same ballpark, as it involves a corporate entity making a profit in perpetuity for someone else's individual contributions, which at the time were likely not given compensation anywhere near what may have later been deemed appropriate given the success of the work and the fortunes that everyone made off of it, except the person(s) who had a large hand in shaping it into what it is.
It could be argued in either case that the company wouldn't have had as much success with the product if not for the specific craftsmanship of the individual creator(s). It's a debatable point, but the inarguable end result is that the corporation made billions more dollars than the creator(s) did.
I say, if the guy wants a park pass and a credit, then just give it to him. It's obvious that he doesn't want a blood feud, just a little recognition. "Thanks for getting us here."
FYI, I will never, ever side with the company over the creator in anything like this, just so you know. :lol: They literally get rich by stealing others' work, so the least they can do along the way is continue to recognize and compensate the individuals who actually put in the work while all the executives did was push paper around.
Wildcat
10-13-2018, 03:49 AM
I’m all for giving credit where credit is due. If they’re credited in the movie that’s perfectly fine. It just seemed like he was making a big issue for something that was already taken care of with the first movie.
Like where does it end? I mean could any of the artists claim compensation for any similarities between costumes or set designs no matter how small?
Leo656
10-13-2018, 04:04 AM
I don't think he was making a BIG issue, necessarily; tone can be tough to interpret from text.
And I do hear you, and I think those are conversations worth having, as far as what is owed retroactively, if anything, when you borrow from a previous work while doing an "updated" version. Is it "your" costume design if it's literally copy/pasted from something else, and all you did was add another feather to it? And so on.
Times change, and I think compensation models need to change and evolve with them. It should be an ongoing conversation. As is, writers are often the lowest on the creative "totem pole" in visual mediums like film and TV, despite nothing being possible without them, so it's hard for me to ever find them petty or root against them given how consistently they're always getting screwed in comparison to those above them on the ladder.
The flip side being, of course, none of them are going broke, and there's plenty of writers who've made it rich in Hollywood without a single one of their scripts ever being filmed. So it's not that I feel *too* badly; but anyone who simply says "I want to be acknowledged for my work" is well within their rights to do so.
I will be surprised if he doesn't get some kind of on-screen credit and a bit of coin as a token gesture. They still should have at least told him beforehand that they'd be borrowing heavily from his material; that's what it seems like he's annoyed by. I would be, too.
Just ask Andrew how fast I jump his sh*t when I even *think* he's stealing one of my jokes. :lol: :trazz: 88mph, no brakes.
Wildcat
10-13-2018, 04:37 AM
Ya you’re right tone can be taken out of context just reading text but he’s upset that the original writers are not compensated for the remakes.
It says animated movies are not subjected to the same rules of the Writers Guild. I guess he feels they should be paid again as if it was a totally new movie.
Personally I would not expect to get paid twice the same (or more) just because it happened to be used twice. I know it’s my work but I already wrote it. Unless I’m inputting something new.
The script was always made to be owned by Disney or whatever studio you’re supplying it to.
Leo656
10-13-2018, 05:08 AM
A case can be made either way, but if it's essentially re-used work, but the company itself stands to make another fortune off of it, then it's only fair to toss out a few more sheckels.
Another different-yet-similar case: Originally, the WWF (now WWE) did not compensate talent for videotapes, be they in-ring performers, announcers, what have you. You got paid to work the initial event, and that was that. HOWEVER, once the profits made by the WWF from those videotapes reached an amount that even Scrooge McDuck couldn't fit into his vault, the conversation changed. Hulk Hogan, in the first place, set the bar by demanding somewhere around 1984, when the company announced that they were doing a Best Of collection of his matches, that he be paid additionally for all sales of said video tape. The WWF argued that he had already been paid for working those matches; Hogan argued that if they were going to make another few million off of his work, then he in turn wanted a share of every video sold, as he was already getting with T-shirts and such. Hogan's leverage was a lucrative deal in Japan that would have paid him more than the WWF ever would have, anyway, so ultimately, the WWF caved. Hogan got his royalties, as did everyone who came after. The rule was no longer, "You've already been paid for the work the first time"; the New Rule was, "If we're going to keep getting rich off of your previous work, we're going to have to keep paying you for it."
This did not stop the WWF from lying whenever possible to avoid paying those royalties, however; in 1990, Jesse Ventura famously won a lawsuit against the company over video tape royalties. He had specifically asked someone in management, years earlier, if the talent were paid extra for video tapes and was told "No", which was a lie. Another talent finked them out to Jesse, and he took them to court and won. He was paid everything he was owed and not a cent more, but the WWF was so bitter about it that to this day, they scrub him from old footage whenever they can, just to avoid paying him. When they replay old WCW matches, there's long stretches of awkward silence where Jim Ross sounds like he's talking to no one, because they'd rather pay some tech for hundreds of hours of work erasing Jesse's voice, rather than just pay Jesse a few bucks once in a while. He didn't even beat them for millions, it was a little over $800,000. Talk about petty!
When streaming became a thing and the WWE Network started up, the conversation changed again. These weren't individual tapes that could be tracked through sales, making it easy to determine what each performer on a tape was due; the new model is much more complicated. Plus, a big chunk of the wrestlers' pay always came from the monthly pay-per-view bonuses; once those $40-50 monthly events became "free" to anyone who subscribed to The Network, those bonus checks went away, leaving the performers confused and upset. Again, the company tried to revert to the "Well, you were already paid for working the event..." argument, but nobody was falling for it. I'm not sure what kind of agreement was eventually reached, but it's one of several reasons CM Punk left; he felt like he was being ripped off and wasn't satisfied with their explanations.
Again, much different field of entertainment, BUT, it's still a company trying to argue from the position of, "We paid you already," and the worker replying, "Yeah, but you're still getting rich off of what I did for you, and I'm not, so how about we talk about that?"
In this film's specific case, it's about how much of a previous script is being re-purposed, and what kind of recognition/compensation, if any, is due, be it financial or otherwise. I feel like, if it was a school assignment, they'd have to cite the previous author or get an F for plagiarizing. So it's only fair that since they're easily going to do billion-dollar business with this film - which ONLY can happen because of how much everyone liked the original film - they should acknowledge the people who made it possible, and in my mind additional financial compensation would indeed be part of that.
Like I said, it should be something that we keep addressing as entertainment, and our manner of pursuing it, continues to evolve and change. "Work for hire" and "We already paid you" doesn't really seem fair in the big picture with things like this.
Shark_Blade
10-13-2018, 05:11 AM
Disney are such cowards for not letting Aladdin putting out his damn titties.
Wildcat
10-13-2018, 06:10 AM
@ Leo656, I have no problem for writers or anybody getting royalties/re-credited. It’s obviously based on the existing script. How much is a different thing. I don’t know to what extent he thinks they should get paid again.
I’m probably coming off as some soulless executive to you who does not care about the “the little guy”. To me there is no “little guy” in this. However Disney will always be the “villain” in this situation because they’re the corporation.
It just annoys when people who are equally well off complain about something that doesn’t matter very much. Like you said they’ll probably do some kind of compensation but he chimed in too soon over a teaser.
Leo656
10-13-2018, 06:13 AM
Oooohhhhhh, I don't think they're anywhere near close to being "equally well off." One party is Disney, the other party is "Whatsisname." :lol: Pretty sure there's a fairly wide gap between them.
Other than that, this has gone well. This was a good conversation.
Wildcat
10-13-2018, 06:27 AM
Ha, you’re right compared to Disney they’re not a gigantic empire. I just meant it seemed pointless to complain when both parties have gotten what they needed out of it.
Ya it has been a good discussion.
These text walls of jericho ruin every other thread.
Leo656
10-13-2018, 08:17 PM
It's entirely not my fault you're functionally illiterate. Take it up with your f*king parents.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
10-13-2018, 08:22 PM
These text walls of jericho ruin every other thread.
What's the problem? Just wanted to read one-sentence soundbites of people b!tching about another remake?
Enjoy the deeper conversation regarding creators' rights and compensation or ignore it. Geez.
Leo656
10-13-2018, 08:24 PM
Wait, I think I can match the speed of this place. Hang on.
"D00d, trailer wuz sick 10/10 can't wait! :D:D:D:D"
Nailed it.
.... "Text Walls Of Jericho" was pretty good, though.
Prowler
10-13-2018, 08:28 PM
These text walls of jericho ruin every other thread.
Leo is just expressing his opinion. If you don't want to read what he writes then you don't have to. I entirely skip or skim through a few posts in threads at times as well ifI'm neither in the mood to read them, don't care what the person who wrote them has to say or am just feeling lazy. A single post or two don't really ruin a thread unless they initiate several pages of sh*tposting and trolling, imo.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
10-13-2018, 08:43 PM
Wait, I think I can match the speed of this place. Hang on.
"D00d, trailer wuz sick 10/10 can't wait! :D:D:D:D"
Nailed it.
.... "Text Walls Of Jericho" was pretty good, though.
Imma march around them seven times. Gonna get Biblical up in here.
Prowler
10-13-2018, 08:44 PM
Imma march around them seven times. Gonna get Biblical up in here.
I didn't know it was a biblical reference until like 2007. Chris Jericho totally got the name for his finisher from there. He's also rather religious, so I guess he knows his stuff :tlol:
ranger_scout
10-13-2018, 10:07 PM
Sources have recognized Frank Welker's voice for the Cave of Wonders, but they wonder if this is a new recording he's done or archived audio.
Aladdin TRAILER: Did you spot the returning ORIGINAL film star? (https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1030426/Aladdin-trailer-Disney-Will-Smith-Genie-Guy-Richie-Cave-of-Wonders)
Yes fans are pretty certain that that’s Frank Welker reprising his role as the Cave of Wonders’ voice.
The voice actor also provided animal noises for Aladdin’s monkey Abu and Jasmine’s tiger Rajah in the 1991 film.
ALADDIN: HOW THE NEW TEASER TRAILER RECREATES THE ANIMATED DISNEY MOVIE (https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/10/12/aladdin-how-the-new-teaser-trailer-recreates-the-animated-disney-movie)
The Cave of Wonders is a major focal point in this footage. The trailer even features Frank Welker as the voice of the Tiger God again, though whether Welker actually rerecorded his lines or the trailer is simply reusing the original sound byte is unclear.
ranger_scout
11-14-2018, 10:49 PM
Back in April I shared my story of how I met Linda Larkin, the speaking voice of Jasmine, and she told me that she approves of Naomi Scott's casting. Well, recently Lea Salonga, who did Jasmine's singing voice, also defended the casting choice as well.
I don’t think it’s all black. I saw a picture of the young man who’s gonna play Aladdin… but he’s of Middle Eastern descent. And given that Aladdin is set in a fictional Middle Eastern country, for me, it will be cast right if you find people who are ideally of the same ethnic background that the characters actually are and for Aladdin to be Middle Eastern because it’s set in that part of the world.
I think it looks black to us but it’s not quite. The countries are pretty close enough anyway. For me, as long as it’s ethnically right, and regardless of the actual hue of the skin, that won’t be an issue for me. And if they look good, and they look charming, if we just fall in love.
The girl who played Princess Jasmine is so gorgeous, Naomi Scott. She’s so beautiful! Really, really beautiful!
https://www.philstar.com/entertainment/2018/10/16/1860554/watch-lea-salonga-defends-disney-over-controversial-aladdin-casting
Sumac
11-15-2018, 08:12 PM
Some idiots are still salty that Jasmine is not played by TRUE ARABIAN girl, whatever, it means?
Pathetic.
ranger_scout
12-13-2018, 10:26 PM
Mena Massoud, who is playing Aladdin, says the new songs that have been written for the film are empowering. One of them definitely has that kind of feel for women. I'm absolutely sure that it's the solo song that has been written for Jasmine.
We've got all the original music in there, plus a couple of new songs. They're really empowering. I gotta say one is very empowering for women, I think people are going to really, really dig it. The other one is awesome as well. We got the same guys who did La La Land and The Greatest Showman, we're in good hands.
https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2463522/more-details-on-the-new-songs-in-disneys-live-action-aladdin
Autbot_Benz
12-13-2018, 10:49 PM
Mena Massoud, who is playing Aladdin, says the new songs that have been written for the film are empowering. One of them definitely has that kind of feel for women. I'm absolutely sure that it's the solo song that has been written for Jasmine.
https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2463522/more-details-on-the-new-songs-in-disneys-live-action-aladdin
oh boy just what I want in my Aladdin movie some empowering song :roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:
ranger_scout
12-19-2018, 08:49 AM
First look at the Genie and Jasmine. Will Smith won't be blue in this film.
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/EWCVR1542.43_2187y21821891221.jpg
https://ew.com/movies/2018/12/19/aladdin-first-look-ew-cover-story/
Autbot_Benz
12-19-2018, 11:17 AM
First look at the Genie and Jasmine. Will Smith won't be blue in this film.
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/EWCVR1542.43_2187y21821891221.jpg
https://ew.com/movies/2018/12/19/aladdin-first-look-ew-cover-story/
https://i.imgur.com/4cyv7Di.gif
Will Smith said on Instagram he would be blue and that Genie is Mostly CGI
https://nylon.com/will-smith-genie-blue
TigerClaw
12-19-2018, 11:24 AM
https://i.imgur.com/4cyv7Di.gif
Will Smith said on Instagram he would be blue and that Genie is Mostly CGI
https://nylon.com/will-smith-genie-blue
Maybe he takes on a human shape during parts of the movie. You know to blend in with the rest of the people around. so that they don't suspect he's a Genie.
ranger_scout
12-19-2018, 12:59 PM
Here's our first look at Jafar and Abu.
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/AL_287239832990231.jpg?w=768
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/AL_2832982190231.jpg?w=768
These photos have also been released.
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/AL_2891278218213792310.jpg?w=768
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/AL_21783812821938301321.jpg?w=768
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/AL_2873298743982390.jpg?w=768
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/al_28372983912.jpg?w=768
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/AL-2198129837281321.jpg?w=768
https://ew.com/movies/aladdin-first-look-photos/#a-friend-like-genie
Autbot_Benz
12-19-2018, 01:12 PM
Here's our first look at Jafar and Abu.
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/AL_287239832990231.jpg?w=768
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/AL_2832982190231.jpg?w=768
These photos have also been released.
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/AL_2891278218213792310.jpg?w=768
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/AL_21783812821938301321.jpg?w=768
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/AL_2873298743982390.jpg?w=768
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/al_28372983912.jpg?w=768
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/AL-2198129837281321.jpg?w=768
https://ew.com/movies/aladdin-first-look-photos/#a-friend-like-genie
https://i.imgur.com/3CpgWHT.gif
Candy Kappa
12-19-2018, 01:53 PM
Yeah.... I'm not a fan.
Andrew NDB
12-19-2018, 02:19 PM
"Guy Ritchie's Last Hope."
Let's see how much they downplay his involvement.
Sumac
12-19-2018, 03:09 PM
In for Smith.
Of course, I won't watch it in cinema, as I don't like to watch movies in cinemas, but maybe later I will take a look at it.
ranger_scout
12-19-2018, 07:42 PM
Here's one I forgot.
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2018/12/AL-_298390230921-023.jpg?w=768
TigerClaw
12-19-2018, 08:06 PM
I heard Rajah might be in this movie. But they created a female character that will act as a companion to Jasmine. Rajah was normally her companion in the original. but for some reason they decided to create this new character for her. So I don't know what Rajah's role is going to be like for this remake.
Shark_Blade
12-19-2018, 08:28 PM
Why is Jafar hot? Lmao
ranger_scout
12-19-2018, 09:34 PM
I heard Rajah might be in this movie. But they created a female character that will act as a companion to Jasmine. Rajah was normally her companion in the original. but for some reason they decided to create this new character for her. So I don't know what Rajah's role is going to be like for this remake.
This was already brought up a few months ago.
It's already been confirmed that Rajah will appear in the movie along with Abu.
https://www.cinemablend.com/news/1723130/the-aladdin-remake-may-have-jasmines-tiger-after-all
https://thedisinsider.com/2017/11/30/abu-to-appear-in-the-live-action-aladdin-remake/
That's good to know.
No midriff on Jasmine ;( the costume is alright. Smith looks fine but he isn't blue ;( Aladdin looks fine but not young enough ;(
Leo656
12-19-2018, 10:28 PM
No midriff on Jasmine ;(
I said the same damn thing, playa.
Wildcat
12-20-2018, 12:25 AM
They look pretty cool. Was Will Smith supposed to actually be blue skinned? I never read that but I never thought he was going to be.
ranger_scout
12-20-2018, 01:01 PM
No midriff on Jasmine ;( the costume is alright. Smith looks fine but he isn't blue ;( Aladdin looks fine but not young enough ;(
I said the same damn thing, playa.
Jasmine's outfit is similar to the redesign she received for Disney Parks back in 2016. Her clothes are far less revealing here too.
https://www.magicofmainstreet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/jasmineredesign.jpg
Coola Yagami
12-20-2018, 01:50 PM
Looks like Aladdin Cosplay, the movie
God, that's ridiculous, it's just a midriff ironic how we get censored by both the extremes but I don't want to stir this thread to be stirred towards that discussion specifically. The park comparison before and after are ridiculous, they nearly went full burka on it. They really went full extreme at Disneyland, they surely could've let her arms or even a bit of her midriff showing, I get the first one is basically a bikini top (not that it should be offensive).
https://www.savvymamalifestyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/IMG_7284-400x400.jpg
The blue outfit in the movie is fine, but the "skin tone" in the midriff totally ruins it, either do the midriff or get rid of it, that "here it is but not really off putting. Talking about skin tones I do wish Jasmine was a little darker. I really wish the actor playing Aladdin was younger looking, he looks too old, I'm sure they could've found someone who had a more of a baby face.
Overall, I'll wait for the trailers but I'm still excited for the movie.
Autbot_Benz
12-20-2018, 02:04 PM
Gotta make those SJW's happy we don't wanna be setting a bad example for the young girls. SO in the little mermaid live action movie will Ariel have a baggy sweater on since it would be too offensive to have her wear her shell bikini Top.?
Sumac
12-20-2018, 02:45 PM
"Women must decide for themselves what to wear, as long as their wear something we had approved. Also, we believe that women should be covered, because, otherwise it will be indecent and will provoke horrible men".
Now, who am I citing: Liberals or Conservatives?
At this point it doesn't make difference.
Both groups believes that they KNOW what is best for women, regardless of whatever women feel and think.
Candy Kappa
12-20-2018, 04:01 PM
https://www.savvymamalifestyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/IMG_7284-400x400.jpg
Honestly, even the Modesty!Disneyland costume looks way better then the movie version. They should have either done the cartoon costume or gone for something like Clair Hummel's "Historical accurate" series:
https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/_EYkc-V2fpXwIvp8zgqlrrtFzIs/fit-in/2048xorig/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2014/01/30/894/n/3019466/e53632837b6c9e89_thumb_temp_image18345067131102790 9/i/Historical-Versions-Disney-Princesses-Claire-Hummel.jpg
It's gonna be Beauty and the Beast all over again with the dress outfit, in that movie they completely missed the mark with the yellow dress as well. Although it didn't help that Watson refused to wear a corset when the dress was meant to fit with a corset.
Kenwatanabesclone
12-20-2018, 04:10 PM
They look pretty cool. Was Will Smith supposed to actually be blue skinned? I never read that but I never thought he was going to be.
He is going to be.
ranger_scout
12-20-2018, 08:23 PM
Here is a behind-the-scenes look at the movie.
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ranger_scout
12-22-2018, 10:22 PM
Julie Ann Crommett, Disney’s Vice President of Multicultural Engagement, spoke about the casting process and how Naomi Scott's cultural background fits the role of Jasmine despite her not being Middle-Eastern. Some of the points she's made are pretty good.
As the start of production loomed, reports emerged online saying the production team were facing difficulties in finding actors of Middle Eastern and South Asian backgrounds to play the leading cast.
Julie Ann Crommett, Disney’s Vice President of Multicultural Engagement, explained that while the casting process took time - around six months across more than 15 countries - Disney and Ritchie were dedicated to finding the right actors for the film.
Crommett said: “We had such an opportunity here with this film. If you think about the realities of portrayals of Arab people on screen, this is really the first time in a long time that you get such a positive and uplifting portrayal of the community and so it presented such an amazing opportunity to cast a whole cast of people who were from the region or to present a whole cast of people who are diasporically from the region, and I think the casting process reflected that intent, which I think is tremendous. First of all, I think it opened up a lot of doors in terms of hopefully people copying us, future productions wanting to find people, and I think for us, it wasn’t that it was difficult - it was exhaustive and far and wide because we were really trying, I think at a very deep level, to cast this as authentically and as culturally associative as possible.”
After the leads were announced - Egyptian-Canadian actor Mena Massoud to play Aladdin and British actress Naomi Scott to play Jasmine - there was some online backlash against Scott not being Middle Eastern but rather, half South-Asian, half Caucasian.
Crommett explained Scott’s background was crucial to representing a community that also saw themselves reflected in Aladdin, and that in the live-action Aladdin, the fictional Agrabah is very much a hybrid city.
Crommett said: “Given the first animated movie and the origins of the story in terms of the entire history of the text and story of Aladdin, it very much reflects a mixing or association of different cultures in a broad region that you can consider the Middle East slash South Asia and even to China actually by extension, so really the Silk Road. There was a real intention for Agrabah to become the center of the Silk Road and reflect the diversity and movement of what we can loosely construe that time period to have been, which was a golden age as well for the region.
I think you’ll see, not only the principle cast but also in the background, a city that reflects the extended regions. I think what’s interesting about Naomi was that - and we had a deep conversation about it - there are South Asian individuals who associate with Aladdin and with Jasmine as well, and I think there was a sense of we should reflect some part of the community in the principle cast so that we’re actually being inclusive of who sees themselves and identifies with this text…What we’ve done intentionally with Naomi’s character as part of the plot is that her mother is actually from a different land, and it’s very clear in the movie that her mother is from a different land that’s not Agrabah and that’s drawing on a lot of her motivations in terms of how she sees the future of Agrabah as a welcoming place that embraces people from other places because her mother was from somewhere else.
And we felt that was really important for so many reasons to speak to the idea of trade, intersectionality, intersectional identity, as part of the broader Arab experience and South Asian experience by extension … that opens up a really beautiful conversation and I think nods to all the different audiences who possibly saw themselves in the original animated film.”
With closer scrutiny nowadays on the filmmakers telling stories of people and cultures of color and Guy Ritchie and his main creative team not being of Middle Eastern or South Asian backgrounds, Disney brought on culture advisors to help craft the story of Aladdin.
Crommett said: “What we were able to do, which is a practice we’ve done on many movies such as Moana and Coco as well as now with Aladdin and on several upcoming projects, is that moving forward, you will see a shift in that in many different directions that you’re already probably seeing. I think, no matter who is in front of or behind the camera, there is huge value to engage communities often and early in the creative process to be able to see multiple view points, and also for no one person to carry the burden of representing their entire community, which I feel really strongly about. I think what was wonderful is, to Guy’s credit and the creative team’s credit, they were incredibly open and excited to have perspectives at the table from different parts of the extended communities reflected in this film.
I think that shows in a lot of the creative decisions in the movie, moving away from stereotype and really celebrating the culture in quite a positive way and really depicting it in a way that feels more nuanced and more authentic. I think the openness of that team to know what they don’t know and to have a really deep conversation with our consultants the whole way through, I think has actually proved a model that’s really interesting in terms of really getting at that authenticity and really actually involving the audience to some extent - our consultants are consumers - in our process. That, I think, feels really good and feels like a learning and a practice that we want to continue to share because I think there’s value in it, no matter who is in front of or behind the camera.”
While the 1992 animated Aladdin is a beloved Disney classic, it did include cultural inaccuracies and insensitivities, such as depicting the street-market sellers of Agrabah as greedy and grotesque or describing Arabia (in song lyrics) as a place “where they cut off your ear if they don’t like your face” (the song “Arabian Nights” was edited in later releases to remove this line). Disney and Ritchie said the live-action film has been updated for a present day world, with help from the cultural advisors on board.
Crommett said: “There are quite specific changes in this movie that address specific stereotypes that were in the first movie. Iconography that’s in the first movie like swords, a removal of sword iconography that somehow that goes immediately to violence. There is a move away from what feels like stereotypes in terms of portrayals and characterizations very deeply - Jasmine’s character arc is one that is very empowered and not based around the idea of marriage…There is a quite deep understanding of nuance of background in shade and color in terms of representation of the region. We really went through the animated version, all the feedback that happened then, and we looked at this new text and we did a fine tooth and comb and had deep conversations and you will note the changes, they are definitely obvious and that includes lyric changes as well, additional ones than even were done in 1992.”
https://ew.com/movies/2018/12/21/disney-aladdin-cultural-authenticity/
I just found out Once Upon a Time is a Disney show that incorporates live action version of their princess movies and in it they had live action jaffar/jasmine/aladdin and based off the picture I found all 3 costumes are much better than the hollywood version, how does this happen? The costumes help sell the characters.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a0/0a/e7/a00ae79d507804adfb8f75f0f5c6996e.jpg
Wildcat
12-22-2018, 11:51 PM
Those costumes are fine but I quite like the official movie ones. They’re fancier and more detailed. Especially Jasmine’s. Which goes better.
ranger_scout
12-24-2018, 10:34 AM
Here is a new interview that Naomi Scott did.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: I imagine you were one of the people who grew up with Princess Jasmine. What was it like when you found out you got the role, and what responsibility did you feel portraying such an iconic Disney character?
NAOMI SCOTT: Princess Jasmine is genuinely one of my favorite princesses growing up, although I feel like anyone would say that. But genuinely, she was it for me. It was her and Pocahontas; she was definitely top two, for sure. She’s someone who is so beloved, and having an animated character and bringing it to life in the way that it’ll be authentic and natural is the best part of the job for me. Taking that and running with it and having the opportunity to create something with the team around me was the most fun, and just having the chance to show a young woman who is not just one thing, but many things.
I love that in this movie, Jasmine’s main objective at the beginning of the movie is really to protect her people, to do right by them, and she’s a bad-arse, but it doesn’t mean that she doesn’t get upset when she thinks Aladdin screws up. She definitely isn’t a finished article at the beginning of the movie, but she has this beautiful arc and progression, and she goes from asking for what she wants to really just taking it, and displaying that she is a leader, and that’s what I loved the most: Taking something and actually creating something with so much more depth was the most fun and the biggest honor for me, but I’m surrounded by amazing women that I can take inspiration from.
What does the newly created role of Dalia [played by Nasim Pedrad], a handmaiden and best friend for Jasmine in this film, add to Jasmine’s story?
Nasim is now one of my closest friends - she’s incredible, she’s hilarious and so smart, and we had a lot of fun. To me, it would be doing Jasmine a disservice if she didn’t have a relationship that felt like two girls really connecting. If there was a moment in this movie where girls were watching and being like, “Oh my gosh, when I’m in that situation, I’d need my best friend and squeeze her and trying not to laugh” - all of those little moments, it was so important to have that, and Guy was all about it, he loved that, so we worked together to make those moments really feel Dalia’s love for Jasmine, because we all need our girls. Aladdin has the Genie and Jasmine has Dalia, and there’s this older-sister kind of relationship that they have, where Dalia cares so much for Jasmine. She’s very different, she sees the world differently, but she absolutely loves her and adores her, and I feel like that’s the sort of relationship that all of us women have, those girls that we can point to and say, “That’s someone I have that relationship with,” in our lives. So that was really important, and it’s just a bonus that she’s one of the most talented people that I know, and we are so, so blessed and lucky to have her in this movie. So you can’t just have a tiger, as much as you love Rajah.
Tell me about Jasmine’s new solo song in this film.
The song that Jasmine sings connects to everything about her arc, about her finding her voice. That’s what that song is about, it’s about not being shut down but being able to speak out, which I would say resonates. The other song is a lovely lullaby song, which comes more at the beginning of the movie.
What kind of spin will we see on the iconic outfits that she wears?
We are in this gateway into the Eastern world; we want it to be a feast for the eyes, and [costume designer Michael Wilkinson] just ran with it. We have inspirations from so many different places, and really specific things as well, and so of course with me, they absolutely went to town. I think I had about nine costumes in this movie, and each is a different world of itself. The iconic blue, I can’t even remember how many Swarovski crystals are on it, but there’s a lot. They were quite itchy, to be honest, but I felt amazing in every outfit. There was one outfit that I loved because it kind of reminded me of a salwar kameez, which was fun for me.
The results you see are, in my opinion, really beautiful, really elegant, and Princess Jasmine slays, she’s not messing around. At the beginning of the movie, there are a couple of outfits that are quite restrictive, and I think we liked the idea of there being certain outfits that she feels are more freeing, and she feels like she can move, and then there are the outfits that represent her duty as a princess and feeling a little bit trapped sometimes, which I thought was really interesting and cool. And there’s trousers, which is like a dream for me.
What did you feel Guy Ritchie was able to bring so uniquely to this adaptation?
Snatch is one of my favorite movies, and I already love his directing. For me, I love how collaboration makes for something new and exciting, and I feel like putting Aladdin with Guy, you may not have thought of it before, but it’s the perfect combination where when it comes to tone and feel and when it comes to energy in a movie, and that being the through-line, he is just fantastic at that. And he brings a lot of life and energy, camera angles and editing, really putting that stamp on it, just created something new.… I’ll never forget the time that for one of the new songs, Jasmine’s solo song, he loves that song and he just really wanted to perform it almost as Jasmine, and I’ll never forget him milling around in the courtyard and me just thinking, “How did I get here?” Guy was literally singing the song and spinning around and basically just playing Princess Jasmine…. Also his team loves him so much, I think it’s so important to have a good energy on set, because he’s such a bright light and brings that energy. It was truly magical.
https://ew.com/movies/2018/12/23/naomi-scott-jasmine-disney-aladdin/
ranger_scout
12-28-2018, 02:50 PM
Here is our first official look at the Sultan. With all of these photos debuting I've noticed that Disney really wanted to expand Jasmine's wardrobe beyond her iconic turquoise outfit, the peasant disguise, and the slave costume.
https://images.fandango.com/images/fandangoblog/Aladdin_SQR_Ablog900.jpg
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/captain_marvel/check-out-some-new-stills-from-captain-marvel-aladdin-dumbo-and-more-a165531?cp=2
Shark_Blade
12-28-2018, 05:45 PM
I’m just waiting for her red hot slave outfit.
“Jafar.... I never realized, how incredibly handsome you are”
Well she’s not wrong this time. :tlol: He’s even hotter than Aladdin now.
ranger_scout
02-05-2019, 10:41 PM
Here's a new banner for the film.
https://static2.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Aladdin-Banner.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=738
New Aladdin Remake Banner Image Spotlights the Cast (https://screenrant.com/aladdin-remake-banner-image-cast/)
Also, Alan Menken recently answered some questions about the film.
Question: You get to revisit your work again and again. What does that mean do you, and how do you approach it?
Answer: It’s always the challenge of maximizing what you’ve already done for the new medium. In writing for theater, that always means a lot more songs, to begin with, because the medium sort of insists on it. Where in a film or animation you have a closeup that can really give you certain emotional moments, onstage, songs in a way are the closeups.
Q: What’s the status of the live-action film?
A: I wrote some new songs with Benj Pasek and Justin Paul as my lyricists and also rewrote some of the songs from the original. It’s done. It’s just a matter of doing our scoring. We got the score in a few weeks in London, and then a lot of post work (before) it’s coming out May 24. These adaptations are almost like spokes in a wheel, as opposed to being a continuous evolution. Each one is a different telling. So we have one song in particular that’s new to the movie called “Speechless,” which we’re all really excited about. It’s a song for Jasmine.
Q: What is your favorite tune that got cut from the film and came back onstage?
A: That’s hard to say because they’re all my children, but one was certainly “Proud of Your Boy.” That was a song that Aladdin sang to his mother in the original, and when the mother was cut, the song was cut. It’s basically him saying, “Look, I want to make something of myself.” And now he sings it to the memory of his mother in the Broadway show, and it really is pivotal.
Q: How was it working with Pasek and Paul? Were they a little star-struck?
A: Well, we certainly had fun with me telling them behind-the-scenes stories. We had a lot of laughs. They’re very dear, and they’re incredible talents. I had known about them since they were in college. My daughter went to the University of Michigan and was telling me, “Oh, there’s this team called Pasek and Paul, and they’re really good.” When it was suggested that they collaborate with me on these songs, I said, “Hey, that’s great.” (And they told me) “Also, on the ‘Mermaid’ musical you’ll be working with Lin-Manuel Miranda” - who I also knew of when he was a little boy in New York, through my sister, who was a musical-theater actress, and her daughter went to the same school as Lin. So it’s a whole generation of young talent that I’ve known about as they were coming up, the other one is Bobby Lopez, watching each of them come of age and make an impact on musical theater.
Q&A: Alan Menken on remaking 'Aladdin' with Pasek and Paul (https://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/arts/2019/01/26/q-a-alan-menken-remaking-aladdin-pasek-and-paul/2668465002/)
Sumac
02-06-2019, 12:07 PM
Banner looks like an ad for a generic mobile game.
ProactiveMan
02-06-2019, 07:41 PM
Late to the party but... Jafar looks like a fool. Why would they spill so much ink over authenticity and then dress the villain like an extra on Stargate?
ranger_scout
02-10-2019, 08:41 PM
Here is a new look at the movie.
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TigerClaw
02-10-2019, 08:44 PM
Here is a new look at the movie.
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And here's the Genie.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzF0go_U0AECcIV.jpg:small
Autbot_Benz
02-10-2019, 08:45 PM
Here is a new look at the movie.
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**** This stupid movie and its terrible Will Smith Genie
ranger_scout
02-10-2019, 09:06 PM
I find it interesting that Jafar won't be disguising himself as a prisoner when he takes Aladdin to the Cave of Wonders. Aladdin will most likely trust him at first since he is the Royal Vizier of Agrabah the same way that the Sultan did in the original before his true colors were revealed. Jasmine will once again be the only person to see through Jafar. When Aladdin becomes Prince Ali he will know to stay away from Jafar at the palace.
Autbot_Benz
02-10-2019, 10:50 PM
everyone is ripping this movie a new asshole on twitter. Genie looks terrible Jafar looks like a wimp. Just stop Disney.
ranger_scout
02-10-2019, 11:11 PM
The editor-in-chief of TheDisInsider, Skyler Shuler, has a message for all of those who are worried about the way the Genie looks.
ALADDIN is still in post-production, VFX are NOT finished yet, and the film is still over 3 months out.
Calm yourselves.
https://twitter.com/Skylerhxc/status/1094786405241221121
Leo656
02-11-2019, 01:00 PM
One article included a quote from Smith, saying that he pulled from his characters in "Fresh Prince" and "Bad Boys" for this one.
Will Smith either has Zero self-awareness, OR, he has absolutely ALL of it.
ranger_scout
02-11-2019, 01:25 PM
Well, I don't think this is a good sign. The video that Disney released last night has more dislikes than likes on Youtube. Currently, it has received 34,000 dislikes and 28,000 likes. If there is no enthusiasm for this film, then it might end up performing like Alice Through the Looking Glass did back in 2016.
Leo656
02-11-2019, 01:36 PM
It's gonna make a ton of money and all the critics are gonna flip for it. People are just playing the "internet critic" game, as usual.
Johnny Depp isn't in this one, for one thing. People have finally realized that he's insufferable, but they haven't turned on Will Smith yet.
It'll do fine. It checks all the boxes for what people gush over. All the stuff people are making fun of right now won't matter once the opening of "Arabian Nights" hits. Then they'll forgive everything.
ranger_scout
02-11-2019, 11:08 PM
The folks at Entertainment Weekly did some side-by-side comparisons with the original animated film to the live-action movie. They even pointed out what I saw in the trailer earlier about Jafar taking Aladdin to the Cave of Wonders as himself rather than an old beggar.
Jafar showing Aladdin the cave
In the original film, Jafar led his “diamond in the rough” to the cave while disguised as a creepy old man. From the trailer, it looks like this time around, Jafar will still look like actor Marwan Kenzari. No complaints for more Hot Jafar!
https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/aladdin_02.jpg?w=768
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https://ew.com/movies/aladdin-trailer-see-how-the-live-action-adaptation-compares-side-by-side-with-the-original/#street-rats
Voltron
02-11-2019, 11:42 PM
Is it just me, or do the photos seem a bit chintzy to anyone else? I mean, the production quality looks a bit underwhelming from the looks of it.
Leo656
02-11-2019, 11:51 PM
I'm pissed I can't see her bellybutton. Ridiculous.
MsMarvelDuckie
02-12-2019, 08:23 AM
You and every fan of I Dream of Jeanie EVER.
ranger_scout
02-12-2019, 08:47 PM
Today on Facebook, my friend shared this.
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51861088_2502066829863896_2458451297548894208_n.jp g?_nc_cat=106&_nc_oc=AQmpcS8_R9g-kPIBesHaXkYek5ywEKw67CaFc6Zlt1aKJ0od_tz48qu7de_g4S aM20LPeZaDuTbHxmc2YiM3RGDz&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=a9b97b11cc60e63326e0051889e98c34&oe=5DC0E16B
TurtleTitan97
02-13-2019, 12:59 AM
No offense to your friend, but it's gonna take more than a Facebook meme to change my mind.
ZariusTwo
02-13-2019, 02:49 AM
Today on Facebook, my friend shared this.
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51861088_2502066829863896_2458451297548894208_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=6893256d09d2c6a22a06af7aece99b71&oe=5CFB206B
I hate when people tell me to shut my brain off and just accept what I'm given. Sheep. If I think a film looks garbage, I'll say it.
Autbot_Benz
02-13-2019, 11:24 AM
Today on Facebook, my friend shared this.
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51861088_2502066829863896_2458451297548894208_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=6893256d09d2c6a22a06af7aece99b71&oe=5CFB206B
Your friend can shove it. Scary Will Smith Terrible CGI Genie is **** deal with it and he ain't no Robin Williams
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
02-13-2019, 11:40 AM
Trailer looked fine to me, but I couldn't care less about Aladdin. Carry on hating, good people, I'm sure this film matters much more to you. :tsmile:
FredWolfLeonardo
02-13-2019, 01:39 PM
I thought Will Smith's Genie was the best thing about the trailer.
Some of the sets like with the Prince Ali song were pretty sweet too, but why does every actor besides Will Smith have to have such a blank and emotionless expression?
Ancient Greek theatre masks have more emotion and investment, then most actors in live action Disney films at this point.
ranger_scout
02-13-2019, 07:17 PM
Well, if what the editor-in-chief of TheDisInsider says is true, then Disney apparently listen to the backlash and will improve the Genie's look. We won't be getting a trailer for a while though.
Don't expect an ALADDIN trailer anytime soon, despite the fact i loved the trailer, it's apparent Disney saw the backlash, and are working hard to finish perfecting the look of the Genie.
https://twitter.com/Skylerhxc/status/1095756075804966914
Leo656
02-13-2019, 07:24 PM
I don't see anything that looks like "garbage", I just see... well, the exact same movie as the animated one, give or take a few costume choices. To be honest, it looks exactly like what I expected. Not sure what people want.
It's like, you know what you're getting with these "remakes". You either think the entire idea is a lazy cash-grab, or you think it's all brilliant.
I don't think any of it looks "bad" at all, just looks like the same thing we already watched 25 years ago. I'm on record as not being in favor of these remakes in general, but it looks pretty standard, to me. I don't see anything worth complaining about, other than, again, Jasmine needs to show more skin. But that's just me being a perv.
Andrew NDB
02-13-2019, 11:05 PM
Yeah, I don't get the backlash. We've known it was going to be Will Smith for ages, and there wasn't even a lot of backlash about that, only people mad that he wasn't blue in those early photos. Now they show him as blue and people are still mad.
Weird.
ProactiveMan
02-14-2019, 01:03 AM
There are a lot of copy/paste opinions floating around for sure. I think I've heard the term 'uncanny valley' about 100,000 times in the last couple of days. He's bright blue... how is that in the uncanny valley? It looks weird because it's a crappy effect, not because it's disturbingly real. You want to see something really disturbing, check out the fan attempts to 'fix' it that are floating around twitter.
Leo656
02-14-2019, 01:21 AM
Shouldn't it be expected to have a "surreal" appearance, though? He's a f*ckin' Genie.
I rarely side with the apologists, and I can't say I'm excited for this, but the outrage seems overblown. It looks exactly like live-action Aladdin starring Fresh Prince always looked in my head, from the moment I realized that was gonna be a thing.
((Shrug))
Egon1982
02-19-2019, 03:17 AM
I saw the trailer and MY GOD it looks like hot garbage.
And if anyone is appalled by how bad Disney's live action remake of Aladdin looks? Don't just boycott that film. Boycott all of Disney's live action remakes. That includes The Lion King, Dumbo and Lady and the Tramp.
Because if you contribute to The Lion King or Dumbo being hits, you are not showing Disney anything other than you want more of this horsecrap. Bad reviews won't mean a thing. Disney cares only about the bottom line and pure profit. Aladdin could completely tank and lose hundreds of millions of dollars and Disney would not bat an eye if The Lion King makes over a billion and Dumbo is profitable.
Aladdin looks like crap, the CGI that was crapped on the original film on the enterance to the cave looks just as fake as the teaser and doesn't have any of the style or flare the CGI one did, this has none and feeling not of the cast members even Will Smith as Genie. The CGI of him is atrocious and Disney is getting raked over the coals on how poor this is and looks bland/boring and none of it is making me go "Oh it looks like an event film", same for Lion King. Can't we just re-issue the original films with some updated animation because they still hold up really good to this day, both Aladdin and Lion King and two of them in my opinion are the best animated films of the 90s among others. We don't need an update, we don't need a live-action remake of Lion King which isn't even live-action, it's CGI, don't need a live-action remake of Aladdin as it's already been made, i mean maybe do a new adaptation of Aladdin and his wonderful life than do a remake of the Disney film.
I hope the people who saw the trailer and didn't like what they saw then speak with your wallet, and if your tired of Disney's lazy halfassed cashgrab remakes of their classics, don't pay to see them. So if you are sick of this lazy crap as much as I am, do not pay to see any of their live action remakes and just contribute to diminishing returns. I have yet to give them a single cent for these casghrab efforts and I will continue to do so. That is the only way they will consider stopping. Because if they keep making money, no matter how bad the word of mouth and reviews are, Disney will not give a damn and keep making them. And if any film of live-action bombs then Disney will be like "oh wow, i guess people are tired of this! i guess audiences doesn't want this!" and that's how your gonna send your message. And if they are hits and make a billion dollars, all it takes is just one of them and one be saying "Oh i wanna see Lion King" and if your like "Aladdin looks like crap but the other ones i wanna go see" then it defeats the purpose, cause if Aladdin underperforms then it doesn't mean cause Disney can absorb that hit in the face, no problem. But if Dumbo and Lion King are both big hits especially Lion King then they are gonna keep these remakes, i guarantee it, no matter how bad the reviews are for Aladdin, no matter how many people don't go to see it, no matter how big of a flop it is, it doesn't matter cause if Lion King makes a billion dollars that just shows them you still want more of that, just watch, watch this all unfold.
I mean your gonna get live-action remakes of Little Mermaid or Pocahontas, it's going to happen, i guarantee it and all but eventually the bottom will completely fall out and they are just gonna get diminishing returns, because they are no longer about the ideals that Walt Disney built his company around. They are about greed, power and manipulation of your nostalgia
Andrew NDB
02-19-2019, 12:01 PM
I mean your gonna get live-action remakes of Little Mermaid or Pocahontas, it's going to happen, i guarantee it and all but eventually the bottom will completely fall out and they are just gonna get diminishing returns
Well, if it does, it'll be because they run out of old, iconic Disney movies and have to resort to things like considering making "Treasure Planet" a live action movie. There's not even that many of them.
ranger_scout
02-19-2019, 01:10 PM
Here is a new image. Jasmine looks very surprised about something.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dzx5E4VUYAEm3YG.jpg
https://twitter.com/TheDisInsider/status/1097885540496551936
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
02-19-2019, 01:15 PM
Here is a new image. Jasmine looks very surprised about something.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dzx5E4VUYAEm3YG.jpg
https://twitter.com/TheDisInsider/status/1097885540496551936
Looks like Aladdin just dropped a hugely inappropriate pickup line on poor Jasmine here. :tlol:
Sage Ninja
02-19-2019, 05:35 PM
Well, if it does, it'll be because they run out of old, iconic Disney movies and have to resort to things like considering making "Treasure Planet" a live action movie. There's not even that many of them.
I know that it is Disney's biggest embarrassment and it ain't going to happen even if they are woefully desperate for material to adapt to live action, but I still think The Black Cauldron would make a really nice live action adaption, and since it is a book series than could make a franchise out of it. They would just have to stick closer to the source material instead of making Taran entitled and whiny. And since it kind of sucked there is a lot they can do to improve for the better instead of taking already classic memorable animated movies that are so good adaption makes them bad.
Looks like Aladdin just dropped a hugely inappropriate pickup line on poor Jasmine here.
I wonder if they are going for the scrapped characterization of Jasmine from the animated Aladdin were she is more haughty and stuck up until she sees how people outside the palace live in poverty and she gets a wake up call when she sees how good she has it.
Egon1982
02-20-2019, 03:43 AM
I know that it is Disney's biggest embarrassment and it ain't going to happen even if they are woefully desperate for material to adapt to live action, but I still think The Black Cauldron would make a really nice live action adaption, and since it is a book series than could make a franchise out of it. They would just have to stick closer to the source material instead of making Taran entitled and whiny. And since it kind of sucked there is a lot they can do to improve for the better instead of taking already classic memorable animated movies that are so good adaption makes them bad.
I wonder if they are going for the scrapped characterization of Jasmine from the animated Aladdin were she is more haughty and stuck up until she sees how people outside the palace live in poverty and she gets a wake up call when she sees how good she has it.
Yup, not a remake of the 1985 film but new adaptation of the book series just like Lord of the Rings.
ranger_scout
02-21-2019, 01:24 PM
During an interview Disney Film Chief Alan Horn said that he is aware of the possibility that film might not be a success at the box-office.
Disney has a formidable 2019 slate, with Avengers, Lion King, Frozen 2 and Episode IX. How do you manage expectations?
It's always a challenge because - and I say this with love and respect for media - the thing about these big movies is they get a lot of attention, whether positive or negative. So when they don't work, like Solo, the media says it's a failure. I think it was a pretty good movie. It didn't resonate as much as we'd hoped it would, but the press writes it up in a more negative way than I would. These are very high-profile movies. If Aladdin, which I happen to think is a terrific film, doesn't work somehow, that's big news and much bigger news than if a movie somewhere else, like The Kid Who Would Be King [at Fox,] doesn't work.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/alan-horn-talks-disney-fox-merger-streaming-pixar-post-john-lasseter-1187054
Leo656
02-21-2019, 01:27 PM
I expect it to do at least as well as Beauty and the Beast. That one didn't have Fresh Prince in it. People love that guy.
snake
02-21-2019, 02:13 PM
There is no way in hell one of these live action Disney movies bomb. They’ll get by on name recognition alone.
The Will Smith backlash isn’t neccessarily backlash, I think it’s just poking fun at how bad the effect looks. It’s blue Will Smith- he looks goofy as f*ck. Naturally people are going to make fun of it. The best way to do a live action genie that resembles the animated version is straight up all CGI. Otherwise you’re just going to have a weird, blue dude.
Coola Yagami
02-21-2019, 02:18 PM
That's another thing. We knew Will Smith voiced the genie, but did he have to actually look like cgi Will Smith?
He coulda had a cooler design and just be voiced by the guy?
Candy Kappa
02-21-2019, 04:12 PM
I expect it to do at least as well as Beauty and the Beast. That one didn't have Fresh Prince in it. People love that guy.
I just hope it'll be better then LA Beauty and the Beast, cause that movie was awful.
ranger_scout
02-21-2019, 09:03 PM
I just hope it'll be better then LA Beauty and the Beast, cause that movie was awful.
I thought it was good, but that movie could never the original.
Leo656
02-21-2019, 10:25 PM
I just hope it'll be better then LA Beauty and the Beast, cause that movie was awful.
I didn't think so, but I also wasn't in love with it, nor the original. It was exactly the movie I expected. Care to extrapolate? Just curious. I thought it was extremely easy, lazy work, but again, I think this whole "live action remake" experiment is pure bollocks, anyway.
snake
02-21-2019, 10:27 PM
Live-action Beast looked like ass to the highest degree.
Leo656
02-21-2019, 10:36 PM
I hate every CGI character equally.
My wife loved the whole thing and she's the audience for these things. Believe me, every one of them is a flawless masterpiece, and don't you dare imply otherwise or you're a terrible, joyless person.
So, yeah, the audience for these movies is people of any age group... As long as they have the mental and emotional maturity of an 8-year old.
Egon1982
02-22-2019, 04:18 AM
Who agrees these remakes of Disney animated films will eventually get diminishing returns?
Voltron
02-22-2019, 04:25 AM
Hell, I'm already stoked not to see this film. I'm going to wake up opening day and not go. It's gonna be rad as hell when I'm sitting at home doing other worthwhile stuff like staring at a wall or picking my nose or wondering if the sour cream in my fridge has gone south.
ranger_scout
02-23-2019, 12:11 PM
USA Today wrote an article about how big of a problem the first look at the Blue Genie has become. Jeff Bock, senior box-office analyst for Exhibitor Relations was contacted and this is what he had to say about its negative impact.
You know how Twitter is. There’s a pitchfork army out there and they all join in. And right now, Will Smith’s blue Genie is out in front of this army, in a negative way."The Genie just looked odd. And while it's called 'Aladdin,' all the attention since Robin Williams' role is focused on the Genie.
Disney is still remaining optimistic that audiences will enjoy the film once it is released according to this statement.
We have one of the most anticipated films of the year and are confident that audiences will fall in love with the Genie and all of the characters when it hits the big screen this May.
Jeff Bock also says that the film can still be a success and they can do a better job with marketing in the coming months.
Disney has its own magic lamps,. And 'Aladdin' is fortunate to pretty much own Memorial Day weekend for family entertainment. So it's in good shape there."
How bad is Disney's 'Aladdin' blue Genie problem after the Will Smith reveal tanked? (https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2019/02/20/disney-reveals-aladdin-blue-genie-now-what/2877176002/)
ranger_scout
02-24-2019, 03:45 PM
A new image of Jasmine has been released by Disney.
https://media.comicbook.com/2019/02/disneys-aladdin-jasmine-the-magic-of-agrabah-1160044.jpeg
https://comicbook.com/movies/2019/02/24/aladdin-disney-reveals-new-jasmine-image/
ranger_scout
03-09-2019, 12:29 PM
When Naomi Scott landed the role of Jasmine, she told the creative team that she wanted to play her as a strong and mature young woman instead of a teenager. Getting the part wasn't easy either.
"I saw her as a young woman, not a teenager, with a mature strength that can cut you down," Scott told British Vogue for its April issue. "So I said to them, 'Just to let you know, I want to play her strong, and if that's not what you're looking for, that's OK, but it's not for me.'"
While scoring the role of the popular princess may seem like a wish come true, Scott insisted her road to stardom wasn't easy.
"I remember thinking in auditions, ‘OK, this is it, this is the one.' And then not getting it," she recalled to the publication. "And then the next time thinking, ‘OK, this is the one.' And not getting it again. I was the Nearly Girl for a long time."
How Naomi Scott Is Reinventing Aladdin's Princess Jasmine (https://www.eonline.com/news/1020778/how-naomi-scott-is-reinventing-aladdin-s-princess-jasmine)
Here is this video that she also did with British Vogue.
Naomi Scott: A Very Modern Princess (https://www.vogue.co.uk/video/naomi-scott-a-very-modern-princess)
Leofan26
03-09-2019, 12:51 PM
What Will Smith must be thinking over this backlash? Note to Disney, stop destroying Classic Disney films. Aladdin had three films and a tv series, think man.
Leo656
03-09-2019, 01:46 PM
I imagine he's thinking, "I'm gonna have another $20 million in the bank no matter what the keyboard critics say."
That's what I'D be thinking, I'll tell ya that for nothin'. :lol: It's fine, it'll do fine. Everything's gonna be fine.
FredWolfLeonardo
03-09-2019, 01:57 PM
When Naomi Scott landed the role of Jasmine, she told the creative team that she wanted to play her as a strong and mature young woman instead of a teenager. Getting the part wasn't easy either.
Wasn't she like 15 in the original?
ranger_scout
03-11-2019, 11:15 AM
The first full trailer will debut tomorrow on Good Morning America. Maybe the Genie will look better.
https://twitter.com/TheDisInsider/status/1105138811913170944
Candy Kappa
03-12-2019, 09:05 AM
Watching the trailer, it looks a lot closer to the original Disney movie feel, and now I'm a bit more excited.
ranger_scout
03-12-2019, 10:46 AM
Watching the trailer, it looks a lot closer to the original Disney movie feel, and now I'm a bit more excited.
Here it is.
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Plus, a new poster as well.
https://i.imgur.com/IVb3cCe.jpg
drgon78
03-12-2019, 12:31 PM
Still looks like crap to me.
neatoman
03-12-2019, 01:35 PM
OK, I noticed one detail in that trailer that would actually alter the plot. Jafar isn't in disguise when he leads Aladdin to the cave, meaning he can't really openly betray him like in the animated movie. Either the betrayal looks like an accident or Aladdin will be suspicious of him when he comes back, either way he'll recognise him.
I also assume 60-90% of the Genie's screen time will have him in a human disguise (i.e Will Smith without make-up/SFX) in order to save the budget.
Andrew NDB
03-12-2019, 01:38 PM
Seems fine to me. *shrug*
Can also see a lot of Guy Ritchie's Guy Ritchie-isms in that.
ranger_scout
03-12-2019, 02:03 PM
Alan Tudyk will be voicing Iago in the film. His previous voice acting for Disney has been outstanding, so I think he's a great choice.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/aladdin-alan-tudyk-voice-iago-1194074
Autbot_Benz
03-12-2019, 02:05 PM
Alan Tudyk will be voicing Iago in the film. His previous voice acting for Disney has been outstanding, so I think he's a great choice.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/aladdin-alan-tudyk-voice-iago-1194074
no excuse not to try and get Gilbert Gottfried back
ranger_scout
03-12-2019, 07:35 PM
no excuse not to try and get Gilbert Gottfried back
Gottfried is of course not happy about someone else providing Iago’s voice.
https://comicbook.com/movies/2019/03/12/original-aladdin-star-throwing-shade-at-adaptation-on-social-med/
neatoman
03-22-2019, 06:07 PM
I just rewatched the original, not gonna lie here, there are some problems a remake could fix (though I still doubt this movie will be better over all).
It's a very a hyperpaced movie, there are some scenes that could use some breathing room. In general it feels like the script was written to fill at least two hours but then it got a bit compressed. There's also some issues with the animation, there's quite a lot weird looking perspectives and the CGI simply does not blend well with cels. I understand it's primitive CGI but the clocktower in the Great Mouse Detective and the ballroom in Beauty and the Beast made use of CGI way more effectively.
Whatswiththeheadbands?
03-22-2019, 07:52 PM
Already said many times, but that trailer makes the movie look bad
Slade
03-23-2019, 12:21 AM
I wore the tape out of Aladdin as a kid. It's up there with Toy Story as my top favorite Disney films. That being said, I've got mixed emotions about this one.
I'll probably just bootleg it one day when I'm bored.
snake
03-23-2019, 12:25 AM
Why was recasting Iago even an option? Gottfried is literally too iconic not to voice him.
ranger_scout
03-26-2019, 02:50 PM
A international new poster features a moment from "A Whole New World".
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2h2RskX0AUDEAb.jpg
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/disney/aladdin-jasmine-and-the-genie-feature-on-this-new-international-poster-for-disneys-live-action-remake-a167383
FredWolfLeonardo
03-26-2019, 03:11 PM
A international new poster features a moment from "A Whole New World".
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2h2RskX0AUDEAb.jpg
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/disney/aladdin-jasmine-and-the-genie-feature-on-this-new-international-poster-for-disneys-live-action-remake-a167383
Now I have to admit, that is absolutely beautifully made.
ranger_scout
03-27-2019, 10:11 PM
Disney has released four new posters. One of them gives us a better look at Iago.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2rLCGRUcAUYoN_.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2rLCGMVYAAQJOB.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2rLCHEUwAEwUjw.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2rLCHEUYAAOSNj.jpg
https://twitter.com/TheDisInsider/status/1110923501911695362
ranger_scout
03-30-2019, 11:12 AM
Box Office Pro predicts the film will have a three-day weekend debut of $85 million and end its run at the North American box-office with $235 million. If their prediction is accurate that toal wouldn't be as much as Beauty and the Beast or The Jungle Book, but it would still pretty respectable gross like the amount of money Maleficent made.
Long Range Tracking: Aladdin (https://www.boxofficepro.com/long-range-tracking-aladdin/)
ranger_scout
04-18-2019, 09:50 PM
Will Smith is laughing off the citicism about his version of the Genie.
https://www.etonline.com/will-smith-laughs-off-initial-backlash-to-his-genie-in-aladdin-everything-is-under-such-scrutiny
ranger_scout
04-21-2019, 12:44 PM
Now that Dumbo has grossed only $100 million in North America and just over $300 million worldwide against a budget of $170 million, Forbes believes that there is a lot more pressure on Aladdin to perform well at the box-office.
Walt Disney’s Dumbo earned $7.05 million (-25%) in its fourth weekend for a $101.5 million 24-day domestic cume. This one is still a big miss (even as it tops $300 million global) thanks to a $170 million budget, and now there’s more pressure on Aladdin than there otherwise would have been even as Avengers: Endgame prepares to crush all comers.
Box Office: 'Hellboy' Plunges 68% As 'Dumbo' Tops $300 Million (https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2019/04/21/box-office-shazam-captain-marvel-hellboy-dumbo-after-us-pet-semetary-little-missing-link/#60e3edc77abc)
Funny how they wrote this after saying that this movie and The Lion King should be fine since a lot of people grew up with those films in the 90's.
You can talk all you want about folks getting tired of Walt Disney live-action fairy tale flicks, or the notion that not all of these properties generate equal excitement. But the bigger issue, relatively speaking (Mary Poppins Returns DID clear $171 million domestic) is that the Mouse House seems to be taking these properties and reshaping them into essentially the same movie over and over again. That’s a simplification, but that’s arguably how it looks from a general audience point-of-view. The good news is that I don’t think that will be an issue with their live-action remakes of Aladdin, The Lion King or (eventually) Mulan. More importantly, audiences actually want to see live-action redos of those mid-1990s Disney toons, while Dumbo always came off as a “Well, Dumbo was also a Disney movie that people remember.”
Weekend Box Office: 'Dumbo' Stumbles, 'Beach Bum' Flops And 'Unplanned' Overperforms (https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2019/03/31/box-office-dumbo-unplanned-beach-bum-disney-matthew-mcconaughey-tim-burton-colin-farrell/#1e29625fa972)
ranger_scout
04-24-2019, 01:24 PM
We're only one month away from the film being released and here is another look at it.
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ranger_scout
04-27-2019, 12:24 PM
Entertainment Weekly sat down with Naomi Scott about Jasmine's new wardrobe for the film. Here are some photos from the article:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5LQQhNWAAA6MGK.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5LQU1sWAAExZJ4.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5LQWzZWkAAlHPE.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5LMQABXoAAehCJ.jpg
Aladdin star Naomi Scott breaks down Princess Jasmine's revamped turquoise outfit and whole new wardrobe (https://ew.com/movies/2019/04/27/aladdin-jasmine-new-wardrobe/)
Is Jasmine's handmaid going to be like Noreen from The Brady Bunch Movie or LeFou from live-action Beauty and the Beast film by making her have a secret affection for someone and then not get it?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5LI0iTXoAEKVaO.jpg
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