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TigerClaw
10-26-2016, 11:30 PM
a movie titled God Particle will be the 3rd film that will be connected to the Cloverfield movies.
http://www.thewrap.com/jj-abrams-god-particle-next-film-cloverfield-series-exclusive/

The mysterious upcoming J.J. Abrams-produced film”God Particle” will be the latest movie connected to the producer’s cult hit “Cloverfield,” an insider familiar with the project told TheWrap.

Not only will “Particle” be the third in a series of connected “Cloverfield” films, but Abrams and studio partner Paramount Pictures are quietly developing more movies for the shared universe, the individual said. Both parties hope to release a new film in the shared “Cloverfield” each year, the insider added.

Paramount declined to comment on the matter. Abrams’ company Bad Robot did not immediately respond to TheWrap’s request for comment.

Fans of “Cloverfield” and its cinematic cousin “10 Cloverfield Lane,” which starred John Goodman and was released in March, speculated the “God Particle” was indeed connected to the same universe when the project was announced in February.

“Particle” is about a team of astronauts who make a “shocking discovery” and end up fighting for survival in what is described as an altered reality. Julis Onah (“The Girl Is in Trouble”) directed from a script by Oren Uziel. It stars David Oyelowo, Gugu Mbatha-Raw, Ziyi Zhang, Elizabeth Debicki, Daniel Brühl and Chris O’Dowd.

The film is set to open wide on Feb. 24, 2017 — though footage from the project is expected to be presented to reporters on Thursday in New York. Studio head Brad Grey will personally present highlights from the upcoming slate at the event, and do a similar event on Nov. 2 in Los Angeles on the Paramount lot. The insider was present at an event leading up to those presentations.

A person on the Paramount lot said no announcement would come from the Thursday and Nov. 2 presentations — just footage.

Shared film universes are largely uncharted territory and manifest in different ways — there’s the overt and highly successful strategy over at Marvel, where cross-pollination is rampant. Take the upcoming “Thor: Ragnarok” — the narrative belongs to the norse god played by Chris Hemsworth, but the studio is happy to let Mark Ruffalo drop in as the Incredible Hulk.

Abrams connects his shared universe in much less visible ways — you can click here to read an excellent and meticulous analysis of the connection between “Cloverfield” and “10 Cloverfield Lane.”

Allio
10-27-2016, 02:02 AM
don't trust Tagurato

TheSkeletonMan939
10-27-2016, 12:36 PM
Why does everything need a sh!tty shared universe now? Why can't they just be the same sorts of films made by the same sorts of people, with connections being nothing more than easter eggs? These people don't understand the concept of a "shared universe" at all and are just doing it because it worked for Marvel.

Allio
10-27-2016, 02:28 PM
technically, if they are all under the "Cloverfield" series, then to fair it isn't so much as "shared universe" as it is just sequels.

Kind of how Halloween was suppose to be a series of seperate halloween films instead of just Micheal Myers

Andrew NDB
10-27-2016, 02:33 PM
technically, if they are all under the "Cloverfield" series, then to fair it isn't so much as "shared universe" as it is just sequels.

Not really sequels... sidequels, more like.

Allio
10-27-2016, 02:37 PM
Not really sequels... sidequels, more like.

I guess this "cloverfiled" series will have more connectivity at least, if Taguruto is connecting everything.

Andrew NDB
10-27-2016, 02:54 PM
I was kind of hoping that the Cloverfield monster (and maybe there'd be others dropped throughout the world) was just a vanguard for an alien invasion force, which we see at the end of 10 Cloverfield Lane. Then a third movie could be from a military perspective or something set shortly after both films, taking on the alien ships and the big Cloverfield monsters. Nice, simple, and satisfying as a trilogy.

But if the quick synopsis of God Particle is any clue, it seems like they may be explaining Cloverfield and 10 Cloverfield Lane together by making them set in alternate dimensions... which really isn't a way of explaining them together at all, it's doing the opposite. Or maybe in God Particle they accidentally open the particular dimension or dimensions the creature from Cloverfield and the aliens from 10 Cloverfield Lane come from and rain them down on the planet, thus setting up both movies.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
10-27-2016, 02:56 PM
The ONLY real connection (Easter eggs aside) between these movies is the word "CLOVERFIELD."

That's it. We've figured out the game; it's nothing special.

Andrew NDB
10-27-2016, 03:03 PM
The ONLY real connection (Easter eggs aside) between these movies is the word "CLOVERFIELD."

That's it. We've figured out the game; it's nothing special.

It's a weird thing. 10 Cloverfield Lane wasn't intended to be a Cloverfield movie until late into things... similarly, Cloverfield wasn't even going to be called Cloverfield at all until they couldn't come up with anything better than the working title.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
10-27-2016, 03:19 PM
It's a weird thing. 10 Cloverfield Lane wasn't intended to be a Cloverfield movie until late into things... similarly, Cloverfield wasn't even going to be called Cloverfield at all until they couldn't come up with anything better than the working title.

It's a very weird little thing.

I mean, 10 Cloverfield Lane (as you say) got tied into "cloverfield" at the 11th hour. Would've preferred to see it as its own thing.

AT-Man
10-27-2016, 03:25 PM
Will Cloverfield be the anthology series that Halloween was supposed to be?

edit: I see this had been mentioned already.

TigerClaw
10-27-2016, 04:27 PM
Will Cloverfield be the anthology series that Halloween was supposed to be?

edit: I see this had been mentioned already.
I can totally see it be some kind of anthology series, The only connections that they have, is they are dealing with monsters or aliens.

Andrew NDB
01-03-2018, 12:24 PM
Cloverfield 3 delayed (again) until April now:

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/01/cloverfield-god-particle-release-date

Allio
01-03-2018, 12:25 PM
I can totally see it be some kind of anthology series, The only connections that they have, is they are dealing with monsters or aliens.

Also with Slusho

CyberCubed
01-03-2018, 12:56 PM
It's hard to believe the first Cloverfield movie came out in 2008, literally 10 years ago. It certainly doesn't feel like a decade old movie.

Andrew NDB
01-03-2018, 12:58 PM
I still swear it said, "It's a lion, it's HUGE!" in the original trailer.

CyberCubed
01-03-2018, 01:03 PM
I remember people thinking filming something through their cell phones was weird. Oddly enough the iphone only came out a year before in 2007, so I guess it seemed like a fairly new concept at the time.

It's just so weird to think of movies now from 2008 or 2007 are now "a decade old." I mean they barely seem any different than today's movies. Meanwhile movies from the 90's feel VERY different than ones from the 2000's...just the way they're filmed.

Feels like most movies from the 2000's are interchangeable.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
01-03-2018, 01:55 PM
I'm really curious about this. Didn't care about the Godzilla Cloverfield, but loved the Survivalist Bunker Horror Cloverfield.

Andrew NDB
01-04-2018, 12:15 AM
I'm really curious about this. Didn't care about the Godzilla Cloverfield, but loved the Survivalist Bunker Horror Cloverfield.

A lot of people don't want this (possibly including JJ himself) but I kind of hope the third one ties them all together intelligently. There's ways it could work.

NinjaPug
01-04-2018, 09:46 AM
A lot of people don't want this (possibly including JJ himself) but I kind of hope the third one ties them all together intelligently. There's ways it could work.

If they're hell bent on rewriting these movies (The Cellar, God Particle) to be part of this Cloverfield universe then they need to tie them together. I don't understand the point of retrofitting these movies if that's not the plan.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
01-04-2018, 09:56 AM
If they're hell bent on rewriting these movies (The Cellar, God Particle) to be part of this Cloverfield universe then they need to tie them together. I don't understand the point of retrofitting these movies if that's not the plan.

Makes perfect sense to me. Cinematic universes and sequel/reboots are much easier to pitch in Hollywood these days, as opposed to original standalone stories.

Your original screenplay isn't catching attention? Rebrand it to marginally align with an established property and BOOM. The odds increase in your favor. It's a smart business strategy, while the bubble lasts.

NinjaPug
01-04-2018, 10:24 AM
Makes perfect sense to me. Cinematic universes and sequel/reboots are much easier to pitch in Hollywood these days, as opposed to original standalone stories.

Your original screenplay isn't catching attention? Rebrand it to marginally align with an established property and BOOM. The odds increase in your favor. It's a smart business strategy, while the bubble lasts.

Totally understand that. That's what the writer or director of God Particle said a while back when it was announced this would be a Cloverfield movie. I just think that if you're changing these movies in a way to tie into that universe then it needs to be logical and substantial. Otherwise these are just anthologies in the same vein as Black Mirror on Netflix.

Andrew NDB
01-04-2018, 10:38 AM
And apparently this latest delay is because of some new JJ-led reshoots.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
01-04-2018, 10:43 AM
Totally understand that. That's what the writer or director of God Particle said a while back when it was announced this would be a Cloverfield movie. I just think that if you're changing these movies in a way to tie into that universe then it needs to be logical and substantial. Otherwise these are just anthologies in the same vein as Black Mirror on Netflix.

That would require creativity, and I don't really think there's much creativity into shoehorning in Cloverfield easter eggs just to get an original movie to production. :tlol: But I get ya.

And apparently this latest delay is because of some new JJ-led reshoots.

Adding in connective cinematic universe tissue, no doubt.

NinjaPug
01-04-2018, 10:58 AM
And apparently this latest delay is because of some new JJ-led reshoots.

Interesting. That kinda answers the question I had about why JJ wasn't attached to direct anything after TFA had been out for nearly 2 years (before he committed to IX).

The Deadman
01-04-2018, 11:19 AM
Will it be as bad as the last 2?

NinjaPug
01-21-2018, 07:24 PM
New rumor that the title has been changed to Cloverfield Station.

CyberCubed
01-21-2018, 07:31 PM
Will it be as bad as the last 2?

The last movie was fantastic and it barely has anything to do with aliens till the last 10 minutes. John Goodman was frightening in the movie.

sdp
01-21-2018, 07:45 PM
I need to re-watch Cloverfield, I remember being so hyped for it and while not as awesome as I thought it would be it was still awesome.

Haven't seen Cloverfield Lane but the trailers looked amazing, need to watch it.

Curious for this new movie and even if super small references I'd love to see this Cloverfield universe keep building.

TigerClaw
01-21-2018, 07:46 PM
New rumor that the title has been changed to Cloverfield Station.
So basically that's gonna be the name of the Space Station.

10 Cloverfield Lane was the address in the last movie.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
01-21-2018, 07:49 PM
New rumor that the title has been changed to Cloverfield Station.

It's all connected! :trolleye:

NinjaPug
01-23-2018, 08:49 PM
Looks like this may get pulled from a theatrical release now:

http://deadline.com/2018/01/netflix-cloverfield-sequel-the-god-particle-paramount-pictures-jj-abrams-1202267849/

NinjaPug
01-27-2018, 03:00 PM
Netflix is going to release a trailer for this during the Super Bowl (probably). I guess the deal with Paramount went through and Netflix got the rights to the movie.

http://deadline.com/2018/01/cloverfield-sequel-dwayne-johnson-jurassic-world-black-panther-super-bowl-movie-trailers-2018-1202270304/amp/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&__twitter_impression=true

Andrew NDB
01-27-2018, 03:39 PM
Aw c'mon, this is dumb. I wanted to see it on the big screen.

NinjaPug
01-28-2018, 02:22 PM
Aw c'mon, this is dumb. I wanted to see it on the big screen.

Same here. I don't like the precedent Paramount is setting by selling off their movies (this and Annihilation) to Netflix because they're suddenly worried about their box office performance at the last minute.

TigerClaw
01-28-2018, 03:09 PM
Same here. I don't like the precedent Paramount is setting by selling off their movies (this and Annihilation) to Netflix because they're suddenly worried about their box office performance at the last minute.
I don't understand that either because those Cloverfield movies make a ton of money at the box office. Maybe they know something about God Particle that is making them concerned. so they are giving it to Netflix.

Andrew NDB
01-28-2018, 04:47 PM
Plus it's kind of voluntarily down-shifting the franchise. Now in the public's mind "Cloverfield" will have become a direct-to-video thing.

Though it's true... it has been pushed way back a few times now and there's been a lot of reshoot. Could be that yeah, it didn't test well at all. Or maybe they're quietly removing the Cloverfield ties in the Netflix shuffle to avoid damaging the brand.

sdp
01-28-2018, 04:53 PM
What cloverfield brand? It's as niche as it gets, there's a reason there wasn't a "sequel" for many years.

NinjaPug
02-04-2018, 05:14 PM
This would be pretty crazy.

EXCLUSIVE: We already told you that Paramount/Bad Robot’s Cloverfield sequel was getting acquired by Netflix, and that a Super Bowl spot is expected to air during the Big Game, however, we’re now hearing that the J.J. Abrams produced movie will be available to stream immediately following the end of the Big Game. A TV spot for the film is scheduled to drop around the end of the first quarter and inform fans about the pic’s availability tonight.

http://deadline.com/2018/02/cloverfield-sequel-god-particle-super-bowl-trailer-netflix-streaming-release-1202276386/

NinjaPug
02-04-2018, 06:30 PM
Yep it's available tonight. Titled The Cloverfield Paradox and it actually looks like this will have a legit connection to the original.

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Andrew NDB
02-04-2018, 06:32 PM
Holy ****.

TigerClaw
02-04-2018, 09:35 PM
The movie is now available on Netflix.

NinjaPug
02-04-2018, 11:10 PM
The link to the original was pretty forced but I really liked the movie. I understand why Paramount was a little worried about making their money back and sold this off though.

Still can't believe they just dropped this on Netflix without much notice. Good for JJ and his mystery box.

Andrew NDB
02-05-2018, 12:15 AM
Just saw it too. Can definitely spot the ham-fisted Abrams reshoot subplot and "payoff" at the end. It doesn't actually explain where the monster came from, unless I'm missing something, it just shows how this particular group of people... arrive at the original movie? I dunno.

Yeah, this wouldn't have worked theatrically. There's barely even any shots from space. Just "Leprechaun in Space" style corridors and a lot of multi-dimensional drama that's mostly just talked about. The last one was even better than this. Daniel Bruhl is completely wasted.

NinjaPug
02-05-2018, 09:01 AM
Just saw it too. Can definitely spot the ham-fisted Abrams reshoot subplot and "payoff" at the end. It doesn't actually explain where the monster came from, unless I'm missing something, it just shows how this particular group of people... arrive at the original movie? I dunno.

Yeah, this wouldn't have worked theatrically. There's barely even any shots from space. Just "Leprechaun in Space" style corridors and a lot of multi-dimensional drama that's mostly just talked about. The last one was even better than this. Daniel Bruhl is completely wasted.

They briefly "explained" it with the Donal Logue TV interview near the beginning of the movie where he basically said using the particle accelerator was dangerous because it could lead to monsters and demons. Unless I missed it I don't think they ever elaborated as to why that would happen. I think it was just a forced explanation that makes no sense.

Andrew NDB
02-05-2018, 11:29 AM
They briefly "explained" it with the Donal Logue TV interview near the beginning of the movie where he basically said using the particle accelerator was dangerous because it could lead to monsters and demons. Unless I missed it I don't think they ever elaborated as to why that would happen. I think it was just a forced explanation that makes no sense.

Yeah, I wasn't forgetting about that. But that guy was just talking about hypothetical possibilities... we don't see the monster appearing anywhere, we don't see a dimension of monsters at any point and some of them being yanked into ours, nothing.

And what a dumb origin, if it's true. The Cloverfield monster from the original movie appeared on Earth because a space station about 20 years into future did a particle collision experiment that sent monsters and demons back in time, randomly? I'm guessing the alien things from Cloverfield Lane too? The movie did say "them," plural, at the end of this movie, so there's more than just 1 monster.

TigerClaw
02-05-2018, 12:23 PM
Yeah, I wasn't forgetting about that. But that guy was just talking about hypothetical possibilities... we don't see the monster appearing anywhere, we don't see a dimension of monsters at any point and some of them being yanked into ours, nothing.

And what a dumb origin, if it's true. The Cloverfield monster from the original movie appeared on Earth because a space station about 20 years into future did a particle collision experiment that sent monsters and demons back in time, randomly? I'm guessing the alien things from Cloverfield Lane too? The movie did say "them," plural, at the end of this movie, so there's more than just 1 monster.
Keep in mind that a Cloverfield 4 movie is also coming out. but that one is set in the past during WW2. So whatever this particle accelerator did, it affected time itself.

Andrew NDB
02-05-2018, 01:26 PM
Keep in mind that a Cloverfield 4 movie is also coming out. but that one is set in the past during WW2. So whatever this particle accelerator did, it affected time itself.

It's like the laziest explanation ever. You can make a Cloverfield movie set in 2500 with space sharks, and it could be, "It was because in Cloverfield Paradox, they shot space sharks into another dimension's future!" Or make a Cloverfield movie with aliens invading England in 1501, "because in Clovefield Paradox, they must have also sent aliens into the PAST of an alternate dimension Earth!"

It's basically no connection at all.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
02-05-2018, 01:44 PM
So... worth watching or not? Not as a Cloverfield (forced) connection, but as a standalone movie with some crap forced into it?

Andrew NDB
02-05-2018, 01:44 PM
So... worth watching or not? Not as a Cloverfield (forced) connection, but as a standalone movie with some crap forced into it?

No, not worth watching even as that. Sadly.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
02-05-2018, 02:26 PM
No, not worth watching even as that. Sadly.

Did you like 10 Cloverfield Lane?

Andrew NDB
02-05-2018, 02:28 PM
Did you like 10 Cloverfield Lane?

Loved it. Better than the first movie, though it's a very different kind of movie.

TigerClaw
02-05-2018, 03:19 PM
How The Cloverfield Paradox Ties To The Other Movies And Sets Up The Franchise's Future.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/spoilers-how-the-cloverfield-paradox-ties-to-the-other-movies-and-sets-up-the-franchises-future-a157616

sdp
02-05-2018, 09:30 PM
Well, now that this Cloververse seems to be a thing I decided to go all in. I watched 10 Cloverfield Lane since I guessed the connections to the first would be minimal and I really wanted to check this movie out since I saw the trailer and thought the original film could wait.

Overall it's an awesome movie and great performances all around, too bad that like most thrillers I won't feel too compelled to watch it again if ever. The ending I wish had been different and left a little more open ended, maybe seen the space ship from far and heard some noises and then she leaves in the car or whatever but the whole monster attacking her and then the space ship going after didn't feel necessary and didn't mesh.

What was up with the excuse of "I wanted to steal your gun", I mean it's like telling the cop you didn't rob the bank because you were trying to murder someone, and what wast the point of making a home made hazard suit? That doesn't seem like it would work not to mention I'd rather be with someone with an inconsistent story and safe who already had plenty of times to kill and/or rape them if he really wanted, I mean they seemed to finally be getting along. And it's not like they didn't belive his story or they wouldn't have made the hazard suit.

I think I'll watch the original tomorrow and the new one on thursday if I can.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
02-06-2018, 04:01 PM
https://screenrant.com/cloverfield-3-paradox-original-script-differences/

Here's an article detailing what changed from God Particle to Cloverfield Paradox.

Eh. It doesn't sound like the original movie would have been great, either...

sdp
02-06-2018, 09:28 PM
Just watched the original Cloverfield, I remember being so hyped for this movie but back then we were devoid from any Kaiju movies, how far we have come, it's basically become Hollywood mainstream now, just count how many we've gotten the past few years. That trailer had me hyped "I saw it's a LION it's huge", some people said it was a Voltron movie :lol:

I remember liking it but never felt compelled to watch it again and just kind of forgot about it so it did't have much of an impact. Watching it now was almost like watching it for the first time, can't believe it's been 10 years. I didn't remember the monster appearing so much in the film, especially since I remember a lot of complaining about the lack of the monster and that the only real look we had from it was from a toy. Overall the movie is fine, but I can see why I wasn't interested in watching it again, even though it's interesting, not much happens and what makes it interesting is the mystery of what happened, once you see it there's not much else to watch.

It reminded me a lot of Monsters which I watched like 2 years ago, hell now that we know it's aliens it could very well be the same universe, why didn't JJ get to those movies first :lol:

TigerClaw
02-06-2018, 09:47 PM
Apparently the reason why The Cloverfield Paradox went to Netflix because Paramount thought the movie wouldn't do well in the box office. So Netflix paid 50 million to get it.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/netflix-paid-paramount-more-50-million-cloverfield-paradox-1082305

However the 4th Cloverfield movie which is set during WW2. Will still have a theatrical release on Oct 26.
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sdp
02-07-2018, 11:47 AM
Just saw Cloverfield Paradox and it's a fine movie, like the others there's no reason to ever watch it again but it's not a horrible movie. Now, I do think the connections to "cloverfield" have made both 10 Lane and Paradox worse movies but at the same time I likely would have never watched them as many others if not for the connection and while they were made worse movies, it's the connecting aspect that is also cool so why not?



As for what happened it appears that they had no idea what they wanted to do with the universe, even with the first film as to why it never got a title change or a sequel, just at the last minute they decided to change 10 Lane into a Clover movie and from there on they got the idea of "we can tie them all together and slowly build this cloververse" MYSTERY BOX BRILLIANCE PEOPLE WILL LOVE IT and I have to say it's an ok idea, cheap? sure, brilliant? no. Can it be fun? sure.


Basically Paradox ultimately created the biggest Deus Ex Machina in all of cinema, they can literally tie any future movie into the timeline with the excuse that "the multiverse was affected" so a movie set in the past, future, or an entirely different earth is now fair game. Trying to tie the three movies together right now might be a headache but eventually it'll just be easier to say "different timeline" with each Earth being affected differently, I mean just from my mind they can easily say there are 4 Earths now which is what I'm guessing they'll go for as this "series" continues.

I guess it works, I don't really need to know too much about what's happening, each movie seems to be telling its own story with the Cloverfield thing as an afterthought and that's fine if we can get great movies like 10 Lane. We can have fun speculation over the cloververse but going in knowing that anything can be explained with Theoretical Physics and no real explanation since there just isn't.

I'm in.

Andrew NDB
02-07-2018, 11:52 AM
Basically Paradox ultimately created the biggest Deus Ex Machina in all of cinema, they can literally tie any future movie into the timeline with the excuse that "the multiverse was affected" so a movie set in the past, future, or an entirely different earth is now fair game. Trying to tie the three movies together right now might be a headache but eventually it'll just be easier to say "different timeline" with each Earth being affected differently, I mean just from my mind they can easily say there are 4 Earths now which is what I'm guessing they'll go for as this "series" continues..

It's basically linking all the existing movies and future movies by not linking them at all, really.

It'd be like if I made "TOM CRUISE: THE MOVIE," about how the actor punches a metaphysical wall and creates alternate reality versions of himself across alternate dimensions' past, present and future, to explain how "Top Gun," "Jerry Maguire," and "Mission: Impossible" are all part of the same franchise. It's meaningless.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
02-07-2018, 11:56 AM
It's basically linking all the existing movies and future movies by not linking them at all, really.

It'd be like if I made "TOM CRUISE: THE MOVIE," about how the actor punches a metaphysical wall and creates alternate reality versions of himself across alternate dimensions' past, present and future, to explain how "Top Gun," "Jerry Maguire," and "Mission: Impossible" are all part of the same franchise. It's meaningless.

It's worse than meaningless. It's a lazy-ass attempt to handwave away any issues one particular movie may have, by saying "No no no, it's all okay because this is a CLOVERFIELD movie!"

The only thing I like about this strategy is that it enables Development Hell scripts to get made... BUT at the cost of having some BS edited in to connect to JJ Abrams' idiot cinematic universe. :trolleye:

Andrew NDB
02-07-2018, 12:04 PM
I kind of wish they'd have abandoned alternate dimensions with this. Just stick with time, with an altered present. What do I mean?

OK, they activate the collider, POOF, they accidentally open a rift up 10 years into the past from which an alien invasion force enters. Simultaneously, the station in the present loses contact with Earth (because now, on Earth, they've been dealing with this alien invasion for 10 years). The crew (minds insulated from the change in the timeline since they're on the station, of course) has no idea what's going on, maybe has to contend with one of the alien ships investigating their station, and in the end have to make an emergency landing on Earth... and we see the planet is all busted up everywhere, the ships from the end of Cloverfield Lane buzzing around gassing everybody and Cloverfield monsters roving around smashing up everything.

That'd work and be a legit tie-in to everything, wouldn't it?

The only thing I like about this strategy is that it enables Development Hell scripts to get made... BUT at the cost of having some BS edited in to connect to JJ Abrams' idiot cinematic universe. :trolleye:

That's a heavy price to pay the piper. Of course, if your movie is legit bad (like "God Particle" was) to begin with... hey, why not.

sdp
02-07-2018, 12:11 PM
I do think we'll eventually get a "real" Cloverfield movie that deals with the monsters, just not anytime soon. I also think right now the timeline can work in "one earth". The events of this movie caused some rift in space time that "woke" the Clover monster and set up the events of the first movie which is around when 10 Lane begins as that same rift brought more of that same planet which is why we're seeing space ships and them attacking with other creatures.

The thing is that TV News segment was not very subtle, "It can wake up monsters in sea or mix worlds or time". So I'm guessing Clover4 taking place in WWII is explained away by the "time" one, and the more the movies make less sense the easier it'll be to use the "multiverse" theory.

I agree that it's a cheap way but is it really any different than when DC or Marvel does it? And people accept it. Tokusatsu fans (Supersentai/Power Rangers/Kamen RIder) are familiar with it, many anime's use this. It's also no different than the Turtles Multivese which turtle fans love as well or pretty much most multiverses that exist because of inconsistencies caused by different writers and then eventually someone tries to put them all together.

As far as the Tom Cruise universe when I was younger I had my theory on how to make all Jackie Chan movies take place in one universe and also one where the three Meg Ryan/Tom Hanks romantic comedies(and some of their solo films too) could take place in the same timeline :lol: JJ just redeemed and validated my theories :lol:

TigerClaw
02-08-2018, 05:31 PM
This video does a good job at explaining the multiverse theory in The Cloverfield Paradox. and how it affects Cloverfield, 10 Cloverfield Lane, and the upcoming Cloverfield 4.

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Andrew NDB
02-08-2018, 05:46 PM
I'll wait for the Redlettermedia review, possibly followed by a "Science Guy" video. I feel like they have to do one.

TigerClaw
02-08-2018, 06:06 PM
I'll wait for the Redlettermedia review, possibly followed by a "Science Guy" video. I feel like they have to do one.
Or a "Because Science" video.

RaphaelinSTL
02-11-2018, 08:16 AM
Finally got the chance to watch this last night and good lord was it disappointing.

I'm still madly in love with that first Cloverfield movie as the hype and viral marketing campaign behind it is still something to this day that I still fondly think of. 10 Cloverfield Lane, by all accounts, was the better movie and I loved the hell out of that one too ... but I was always interested to see more stories possibly tied to the original.

Bad writing, clunky dialogue and a slow/boring story made Cloverfield Paradox one of the most forgettable movie experiences I've had in quite sometime. I'm hoping that this possible fourth movie can redeem the Cloverfield name a bit, but it worries me that we may never get to experience more stories with "Clover" since this one did so poorly.

Even the fun ending couldn't strike a chord with me because of how drained of interest this movie made me.

TigerClaw
02-11-2018, 02:08 PM
Its amazing how the 1st movie was basically a Kaiju movie done as Found Footage. And then the studio and JJ Abrams ends up using the name and turning it to something else.

Its like they are turning Cloverfield into a Twilight Zone style Anthology Film Series based what was explained in this movie.

Any movie that bares the Cloverfield name would be the result of what happened in The Cloverfield Paradox. So when you look back at the 1st one. You now know why that monster all of a sudden showed up in NY.

Andrew NDB
02-13-2018, 11:38 AM
RLM DID do it:

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RaphaelinSTL
02-16-2018, 10:54 AM
This was one of my favorite Half in the Bag episodes!