Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets

[TigerClaw]

Check out the trailer for Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets, it's from the director of The Fifth Element.

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[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Looks like a very pretty cinematic Ambien.

[TigerClaw]

New trailer released.

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[Andrew NDB]

This has "Flop" written all over it. No way it does one bit better than "Jupiter Ascending."

Luc Besson needs to make one movie, and one movie alone: "Mathilda: The Professional 2," starring Natalie Portman.

[TigerClaw]

This has "Flop" written all over it. No way it does one bit better than "Jupiter Ascending."

Luc Besson needs to make one movie, and one movie alone: "Mathilda: The Professional 2," starring Natalie Portman.
Fifth Element was awesome, and I'm sure he will not disappoint with Valerian.

[Andrew NDB]

Fifth Element was awesome

I dunno... I felt like it was the best thing ever when I saw it the first time. Then I watched it a year later and all of it fell apart for me. I think it invested too much energy in seeing how "cool" it could be. Visually pretty striking. I suspect "Valerian" will be more of the same, only probably a lot more painfully expensive and without any A-list stars this time.

[NinjaPug]

Who gave him $180 million to make this? I'd be shocked if this comes close to breaking even.

[TigerClaw]

Who gave him $180 million to make this? I'd be shocked if this comes close to breaking even.
considering the movie is based on the comic that pretty much influence a lot of Scifi, including Star Wars.

I still wanna see it, cause it looks like it could be a cool scifi movie in the vain of Fifth Element.

[Andrew NDB]

cause it looks like it could be a cool scifi movie in the vain of Fifth Element.

They'd better hope not... Fifth Element barely broke even, if that. There's a reason we haven't seen a "Fifth Element 2" in the past 20 years.

Wow. Fifth Element was really 20 years ago, wasn't it?

[NinjaPug]

considering the movie is based on the comic that pretty much influence a lot of Scifi, including Star Wars.

Means absolutely nothing. It's an IP that few know or care about. They promoted John Carter the same way and you saw how that turned out.

[TigerClaw]

Means absolutely nothing. It's an IP that few know or care about. They promoted John Carter the same way and you saw how that turned out.
John Carter didn't had a good director for it, and Luc Besson is really good director, I think it'll turn out to be a fun and entertaining movie.

[NinjaPug]

John Carter didn't had a good director for it, and Luc Besson is really good director, I think it'll turn out to be a fun and entertaining movie.

What exactly are you disagreeing with? I never said you wouldn't like the movie.

Do you not consider Stanton to be a good director because his filmography is primarily animation?

[ProactiveMan]

John Carter was about a billion times better than anything Besson has done lately, maybe ever. I think Disney fumbled the marketing.

[ProphetofGanja]

Looks like a very pretty cinematic Ambien.

I heartily agree with that. I can also see myself waiting to watch this on DVD at home so I can roll up and crack jokes like my own personal MST3K

[TigerClaw]

What exactly are you disagreeing with? I never said you wouldn't like the movie.

Do you not consider Stanton to be a good director because his filmography is primarily animation?
John Carter bombed at the box office cause it wasn't marketed well.

[NinjaPug]

John Carter bombed at the box office cause it wasn't marketed well.

What? First, that wasn't anywhere in your previous posts. Second, you made the comment that Valerian would be successful because it's "based on the comic that pretty much influence a lot of Scifi, including Star Wars" - that's exactly how John Carter was advertised.

[drgon78]

I love the Fifth Element and the Professional but I don't care much for most of the rest of his movies. I hope this movie will be good and if it is good I hope it will make money.

[snake]

It LOOKS visually appealing, but it's gonna flop hard. I'm all for more sci-fi in theaters, but there's no way it'll be a success.

TigerClaw just can't admit that or he'll go against his viral marketing contract.

[TigerClaw]

The movie looks cool, and I'm a sucker for these big epic scifi movies, I don't care if it's good, bad or indifferent, movies like this are the reason I go to the movies.

[snake]

The movie looks cool, and I'm a sucker for these big epic scifi movies, I don't care if it's good, bad or indifferent, movies like this are the reason I go to the movies.

I never said it doesn't look cool. It does.

But it's a huge budget sci-fi movie based on a mostly unknown property. If it does well, I'll be shocked. I want you to say "this has a high chance of flopping". If you can't do that then you're pretty much outed as a shill.

[TigerClaw]

I never said it doesn't look cool. It does.

But it's a huge budget sci-fi movie based on a mostly unknown property. If it does well, I'll be shocked. I want you to say "this has a high chance of flopping". If you can't do that then you're pretty much outed as a shill.
I don't judge movies based on trailers, you have to see it and then decide if its good or not, I always keep an open mind.

[snake]

I don't judge movies based on trailers, you have to see it and then decide if its good or not, I always keep an open mind.

You're missing my point entirely. I'm done trying.

[AT-Man]

Are the two leads supposed to look like twins?

[drgon78]

They do like they could be related.

[ProphetofGanja]

I hope they got a decent performance out of Cara Delvigne, she was awful in Suicide Squad. That whole movie was awful. I think with better direction she could do alright

[Andrew NDB]

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Man, between this and King Arthur... that's like half a billion dollars just thrown away. Box office poison.

Imagine all of the awesome small, not even indie movies that could have been funded with that. That money could have funded like, 40 John Wick-level movies.

[Spike Spiegel]

I'm not sure I'll go see this, but I have been checking out some of the original comics and they are pretty good.

[Wildcat]

I've never read the comics but every time I see the trailers on TV it looks pretty awesome.

Anyone else think the background music sounds like Gangsters Paradise from Dangerous Minds?

[plastroncafe]

Going to be very curious to see how this does Internationally, where the source material is better known.

[Andrew NDB]

Going to be very curious to see how this does Internationally, where the source material is better known.

That's truly its only hope.

[NinjaPug]

Social media reaction embargo on this is up.

http://collider.com/valerian-reviews/

[sdp]

I don't know how I missed this movie, I love everything about it and it's right up my alley. I do think it'll bomb because awesome stuff like this that i like doesn't usually do well. Same with John Carter, amazing film but people didn't like it. We don't often get to see high sci-fi stuff like this movie, so it's a treat to finally get something high budget that does a lot of world building.

As far s the fifth element, I loved that movie as a kid when I saw it in theaters but after that I only watched half of it once on tv many years later and only until a few months ago did I re-watch the movie. I just never felt the need to re-watch that movie. The movie is alright, it doesn't do anything terribly wrong but there's just not much that is exciting for me to want to re-watch it.

[TigerClaw]

Social media reaction embargo on this is up.

http://collider.com/valerian-reviews/
its got a lot of positive reaction, that's a good sign, I'm looking forward to this one. :)

[Andrew NDB]

Social media reaction embargo on this is up.

http://collider.com/valerian-reviews/

I'm stuck on the article itself there. "Anticipation for this one has been high for some looking to see Besson return to The Fifth Element territory after dabbling in more grounded action fare like Lucy recently."

Did the article writer actually see Lucy? She travels through time and 2001s the human race, for christ's sake.

[TigerClaw]

Reviews of the movie have been popping up, and it looks promising, the movie has a 74% on Rotten Tomatoes.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/valerian_and_the_city_of_a_thousand_planets

[Andrew NDB]

No, not promising at all... it's down to 54%. The movie is a bonafide flop, as predicted... a 21 million dollar opening plus only 3 million overseas, against a $180 million dollar budget plus an estimated $100 million dollar marketing budget:

http://www.looper.com/76758/real-reason-valerian-flopped-box-office/

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Valerian-and-the-City-of-a-Thousand-Planets-(France)#tab=summary

Such a failure it's bottomed out EuropaCorp stocks:

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/europacorp-stock-value-drops-valerian-poor-opening-weekend-1202504169/

[sdp]

I didn't doubt this movie would be a flop but I think I will greatly enjoy it regardless of what the internet or critics think about it.

[drgon78]

I will be seeing ether today or tomorrow. I am sure I will enjoy it. Though it does sadden me that it is doing so bad.

[Andrew NDB]

10 out of 10 reviews destroy the story, that it's a brain dead script. The consensus I see is that -- without getting into story specifics -- if the two main characters had not gotten involved in the plot at all, things would have gotten resolved in exactly the same way as they did... the only difference is that a whole lot of people died as a direct result of their getting involved.

[drgon78]

I just saw it, I really liked it. It is of course no 5th Element but I wasn't expecting it to be.

[Faster and Cheaper]

My sister saw it the other day with her friend. My sister's review was, in her words "it's a movie..." And her friend outright hated it. On the positive side she said the Fx were nice.

[ProphetofGanja]

this sounds like the type of movie you can watch with the sound off while vibing out

[Logan]

I dug it. The leads' acting is weak in spots and the plot was bloated, but I enjoyed it for the visuals and the action. I'm easily entertained. I subscribe to Nick Swardson's commentary on modern audiences from his bit, "Boner Soup". I simply don't have the energy or the inclination to hate anything or anyone.

[DestronMirage22]

I saw this movie today.
It was pretty good, better than I thought it would be.
It had nice visuals and a decent story. Just needed more memorable characters and some explanations for some stuff and it would've been better.
It's got me interested in the source material, might have to check it out.

[sdp]

Well I finally watched the movie and I have mixed feelings, on one end it's rather generic boring plot that is unraveled in a rather convoluted way and I realize that this French comic is pretty old so many of its ideas have already been done before but still, they could've done it a bit more interesting. Also Valerian is a very boring actor.

On the other hand the movie's world building is awesome, the effects are great and in general the world is so awesome that I'd love to see more movies in it. I'll definitely be reading the comics now but I'm sad that we won't get another movie. The action, adventure, everything is there for this to be a big franchise. If you're a fan of sci-fi check it out, it's just missing a better plot and main character.

Here is my review on Valerian and the city of a thousand planets (https://miscrave.com/articles/valerian-movie).

[IMJ]

Well I finally watched the movie and I have mixed feelings, on one end it's rather generic boring plot that is unraveled in a rather convoluted way and I realize that this French comic is pretty old so many of its ideas have already been done before but still, they could've done it a bit more interesting. Also Valerian is a very boring actor.

On the other hand the movie's world building is awesome, the effects are great and in general the world is so awesome that I'd love to see more movies in it. I'll definitely be reading the comics now but I'm sad that we won't get another movie. The action, adventure, everything is there for this to be a big franchise. If you're a fan of sci-fi check it out, it's just missing a better plot and main character.

I know what you mean. It's the most awesome boring movie ever. I love it for all of the reasons you said, but it needed to be punctuated with more "great moments".

I wish he'd somehow have pumped out a sequel to the Fifth Element, but that's a movie that likely can never be recaptured.

[Andrew NDB]

Had to double check to see, but it doesn't look like I actually posted my thoughts after actually seeing it.

Meh, it was OK. Really forgettable, which a movie like this really can't afford to be. The leads were pretty blase... hardly the presence of Korben Dallas or even Leeloo. Ethan Hawke was pretty wasted.

Yeah, it's a lot like Jupiter Ascending. Some neat ideas and lots of money being thrown around on the screen, but cardboard main characters amidst too much world building with maybe too much of a mind for future movies. There's nothing really to hate in it but nothing much to engage with either.

[drgon78]

I really enjoyed it, but it is no Fifth Element.