OUCH! Bad news for non-GameCube owners.

[Mikey the Party Turtle]

According to my new EGM, only the GameCube version has a "Casey Jones Mode" that is unlocked once you "Gather all Crystals in the GBA" version. OUCH. Good thing I'm buying it for GC. :lol:

Oh yeah, they rated the game 5.0, 6.0 and 7.0 (7.0 guy says fans of the old games will love it. :D )

EDIT: Mario Kart got 10, 10 and 9.5! :o :D

[RskimB]

whats casey jones mode?

[Kid Icarus]

I'm guessing you get to play through the game as Casey :P .

Sweet!

And Mario Kart's going to have me getting another 'cube, two broadband adapters, a HUB, and another ethernet cable. Can we say a LAN in my room? :D

[Albrecht]

DAMN IT!!! :x

[RskimB]

i'll have to steal a gamecube then :D

[TalonMC]

'Fraid you're wrong about that Mikey...

I know first-hand that the Xbox version has that mode also.

-MC

[verminator_x]

does some one knows when the tmnt game will be realsed in scandinavia?
i know that it will come out the 21 october but very many games has been realsed in the us and then it have gone a long loong time before the game has been realsed in scandinavia.

hm it would be real cool if the new game will be like the old one from 91 with the title "turtles in time"

[OA]

Well, if that mode is on GBA and X-box than it had better be on PS2!!! :x
If not, im going to a very unhappy camper!!!!

[Mikey the Party Turtle]

'Fraid you're wrong about that Mikey...

I know first-hand that the Xbox version has that mode also.

-MC

Actually, EGM would be wrong. :lol:
But it is kinda unfair if it wasn't on the other systems.

[Reznorite420]

Oh yeah, they rated the game 5.0, 6.0 and 7.0 (7.0 guy says fans of the old games will love it. :D )Those guys don't have clue, do they?

[jeff the cheff]

If this is true...ill rent a gamecube and the game, cause im getting it for PS2

[Mikey the Party Turtle]

Oh yeah, they rated the game 5.0, 6.0 and 7.0 (7.0 guy says fans of the old games will love it. :D )Those guys don't have clue, do they?

Well, these guys are normal gamers who aren't really fans of TMNT. :lol:

[Trunks]

so what I played the demo for pc and my opinion is that its an awsome game it does'nt matter if your a fan or not its still a great game.

[Prowl]

Fraid I'm still getting it for PS2, even though I have all systems and I love Casey. You see, I still play the old Snes and Genesis Turtle games, and 5 years from now, when the Cube is in the closet and the Xbox is in some Pawn shop, I will have a backwards-compatible PS3 and still be able to play my PS2 TMNT game on it. (it is annoying to pull out the Genesis and SNES out everytime I want to play it). And I know for certain that Nintendo's next offering will not contain backwards compatibility because Nintendo hasn't figured out one format to stick to because they always like to play things their own way, so it is very unlikely that we'll get a next gen system that will play GC games as well.

But moreover, I played the PC demo with a crappy PC controller, and I for one have a problem with only two shoulder buttons on the Xbox and GC. When I play a game with a lot of moves, I like to have some assigned to multiple shoulder buttons. And with one being reserved for the dash (It sucked so bad dashing with no shoulder), and the other button for the uppercut move.

Losing Casey (though I doubt it's exclusing to GC) is not enough reason to play it on a bad controller OUCH, like soul caliber, though I had to suffer through that one for Link.

Edit: good to see Mario K get good reviews, we are getting that game and playing it till the end of time.

And as I said, I paid the PC demo, minus an intelligently-designed controller, and I have to say the game will live up to expectations. It is fun as hell, and the turtles look great. Screw EGM's incompetent reviewers. They gave Jak2 a not-so-hot- grade because they sucked at playing it and it was too tough for them...Waaaaaah!! :)

[ThirdMarioBro]

Edit: good to see Mario K get good reviews, we are getting that game and playing it till the end of time.

And as I said, I paid the PC demo, minus an intelligently-designed controller, and I have to say the game will live up to expectations. It is fun as hell, and the turtles look great. Screw EGM's incompetent reviewers. They gave Jak2 a not-so-hot- grade because they sucked at playing it and it was too tough for them...Waaaaaah!! :)

Same thing happened with F-Zero GX. Screw EGM & they're pitiful excuse for gamers. :flaming: :D
I personally love the GC controller. It feels like it's made to fit your hand. About the Casey thing........

I love my Game Cube :)

Dosent matter controller wise to me anyway. I'm working on building an arcade cabinet in which I'll put MAME, my TMNT arcade PCB/Jamma Board, and my GC with Soul Caliber 2 (Link!!!) & the new TMNT game. When I'm finished, I'll be able to play it with a 4 player Slick Stik joystick panel. Now that's how all TMNT games were meant to be played.

Sorry for all you PS2 & X-Box owners. I really do hope they put Casey in all versions so that no one gets jipped.

[Prowl]

I don't dislike the GC controller, but I do think it is flawed. I was playing Castlevania Aria on my GB player and sometimes when things would get furious, I would accidently push the map button because they are so jumbled together (and I have small fingers) and when fighting on SoulCaliber and pushing X and Y to do combos, I'd accidently push the mammoth button, and mess up.

BUT...The controller fits very well into your hand, like you said, and for games like Zelda, there is nothing better.

And yes, F-Zero, and Sly Cooper, and now Jak 2 suffer in reviews because these reviewers are too young to have played games when games would kick your ass and hand it to you, like back in the NES days "Ninja Gaiden anyone?"

It sux too because some people come to trust these reviews, and as a result, excellent titles like f-zero get overlooked.

As for Casey, he will be missed, but I am sticking to PS2 just for longevity. The only thing that will change my mind is if the old Arcade game is hidden in the GC version. However, nothing could make me get the Xbox Version, unless it had a four player coop mode, which aint gonna happen.

[Leo656]

Actually I find EGM's reviews to be fairly accurate... they just seem to prefer games that are "fresh" and "innovative", and they are definitely NOT fans of beat-'em-ups like TMNT. Thus, the lower scores, which I predicted by the way. It's just like I figured... TMNT fans would love it, non-TMNT fans wouldn't care.

It's not the end of the world. It's like how wrestling games always get medium to low scores since they aren't anything "new" or "inventive". Fans like 'em, non-fans just don't care.

[cqb101]

Awesome! Casey's my favorite character so I'm so glad GC's getting him. :D

[Kid Icarus]

Well, if that mode is on GBA and X-box than it had better be on PS2!!! :x
If not, im going to a very unhappy camper!!!!

you mean Gamecube. you have to use the GBA to unlock it.

And i really doubt it will be. PS2 rarely gets extras in their games, because the other versions need bonus's to boost their sales.

[cqb101]

'Fraid you're wrong about that Mikey...

I know first-hand that the Xbox version has that mode also.

-MC

I kinda doubt the Xbox has Casey, cuz you need the GBA to unlock him....

[Duke]

It probably could be on both X-box and Gamecube and not on PS2. Even if it takes a GBA to unlock it on Gamecube, it could still be a downloadable extra feature through X-box live. Thats why i love X-box so much almost ever game now, not the earlier releases but the later games have downloadable content. And its usually not just crappy stuff either, i mean splinter cell has a whole extra level.

[jasonorme666]

Oh MAN! Playing as Casey is gonna we so sweet.

Thank god im a Gamecube man.

[TalonMC]

'Fraid you're wrong about that Mikey...

I know first-hand that the Xbox version has that mode also.

-MC

I kinda doubt the Xbox has Casey, cuz you need the GBA to unlock him....

I didn't say you needed a GBA to unlock him on Xbox.

-MC

[Brodie]

So we have to buy both games, for the GBA and GC.....And the link cable....God damn....

[cqb101]

'Fraid you're wrong about that Mikey...

I know first-hand that the Xbox version has that mode also.

-MC

I kinda doubt the Xbox has Casey, cuz you need the GBA to unlock him....

I didn't say you needed a GBA to unlock him on Xbox.

-MC

That's why I doubt it has the sae feature, because on GC you need the GBA to unlock it.

[TalonMC]

'Fraid you're wrong about that Mikey...

I know first-hand that the Xbox version has that mode also.

-MC

I kinda doubt the Xbox has Casey, cuz you need the GBA to unlock him....

I didn't say you needed a GBA to unlock him on Xbox.

-MC

That's why I doubt it has the sae feature, because on GC you need the GBA to unlock it.

Oh ok. So I guess all the time I've spent playing the Casey Jones story mode on Xbox was all in my imagination then. I only test Xbox games for a living... I guess I don't know WTF I'm talking about here. Thanks for setting me straight. :roll:

-MC

[Eye of Sarnath]

Kinda hard to argue with that.

[TalonMC]

Kinda hard to argue with that.

Thanks Sarnath. :)

-MC

[Barkworm]

How do you unlock him on X-Box?

[Kid Icarus]

And Talon, I know how the testing works for videogames. Legaly you arn't supposed to be telling us anything about the game, as I'm sure Konami would be a bit peeved. If you're telling the truth, youre telling the truth, but I highly doubt it. Nothing personal though.

So we have to buy both games, for the GBA and GC.....And the link cable....damn.... if you plan on playing Final Fantasy: Cyrstal Chronicles with more than yourself, you'll need the cable. might as well get it now before stores have problems stocking them.

[cqb101]

'Fraid you're wrong about that Mikey...

I know first-hand that the Xbox version has that mode also.

-MC

I kinda doubt the Xbox has Casey, cuz you need the GBA to unlock him....

I didn't say you needed a GBA to unlock him on Xbox.

-MC

That's why I doubt it has the sae feature, because on GC you need the GBA to unlock it.

Oh ok. So I guess all the time I've spent playing the Casey Jones story mode on Xbox was all in my imagination then. I only test Xbox games for a living... I guess I don't know WTF I'm talking about here. Thanks for setting me straight. :roll:

-MC

You could have said that in the first place. :roll:

[TalonMC]

And Talon, I know how the testing works for videogames. Legaly you arn't supposed to be telling us anything about the game, as I'm sure Konami would be a bit peeved. If you're telling the truth, youre telling the truth, but I highly doubt it. Nothing personal though.


That's very true. Game testers aren't supposed to give out secret info about games... which is why I won't be offering up new information. But if a question is asked concering something that is public knowledge (such as the CJ mode) then I'll happily help to clarify the issue.

-MC

[jeff the cheff]

I hope casey jones is on PS2!

[OA]

Things are getting a bit testy in here... :P ...I guess we'll have to see next week what the real deal is...

[Prowl]

Yup I work in the game industry too, such mentionings can get a man's ass handed to him, lol. Thanks for the info though. Still getting the Ps2 version though. Crappy controllers and paying extra to be online are not worth it for me, even if I do get a new level.

[ThirdMarioBro]

People who work at game mags should be forced to play all major classic games before they're allowed to write about future games in those series.....whatever. I don't pay attention to most VG Mags anyway, except Nintendo Power. They think like I do. :wink: I wonder what EGM will say about Super Mario Advance 4......*cracks knuckles*hehehe

[Prowl]

They Loved it Third Mario, got game of the month, I think. Which, although I love classic mario a lot, I dont think it's fair that a rerelease to an old game should be judged as a new game and be given GOTM. Jak2 really deserved that limelight. But in the end the review hardly matters, in that Jak is outselling Mario.

[Dark Helmet]

Who gives a crap about the Casey Jones mode. The real secret is whether or not the original arcade game is going to be included in all of its glory. If not, the game will suck.

[Mr. Snackpants]

who cares if the original game will be included, id rather play that on my NES.

[OA]

I agree with ya Ben...would rather play it on the old 8-bit..

[jeff the cheff]

Yea, me too.

[jasonorme666]

Yup I work in the game industry too, such mentionings can get a man's ass handed to him, lol. Thanks for the info though. Still getting the Ps2 version though. Crappy controllers and paying extra to be online are not worth it for me, even if I do get a new level.

Its good to know that there are more people other than me in the gaming industry

[Karpo_007]

I don't care if the Arcade game will be on the disc either, I can still play it on MAME. And judging by the demo, new game has good chances of being better than the original arcade games.

[Ninja Tiptup]

I'd love having the arcade game on the disc, but it's not essential.

They Casey Jones mode is probably unlockable in many ways. They do the GBA thing for the GCN game and have some really difficult task to complete for the Xbox game. Which in turn makes the GBA extra rather shallow and not worth the purchase. You can play as Casey in VS mode anyway.

[ThirdMarioBro]

They Loved it Third Mario, got game of the month, I think. Which, although I love classic mario a lot, I dont think it's fair that a rerelease to an old game should be judged as a new game and be given GOTM. Jak2 really deserved that limelight. But in the end the review hardly matters, in that Jak is outselling Mario.

*puts away brass knuckles for now* hehe
Keep in mind that SMB3 Advance just came out. I'm glad they rerelease all the classics. It gives the new generation a chance to see why video games exist to this day. There would be no Jak2 if not for Nintendo & Mario saving the industry from Atari's screwups in 83'. Sorry for the rant.
Also for the record, the original Super Mario Bros. 3 is still the highest selling game of all time (18 million) :D , so in a way it has already won.

[Karpo_007]

Does the GBA version of SMB 3 have anything extra? I still have the Allstars collection...

[jasonorme666]

its highly improved

[Prowl]

Dont worry ThirdMario, I am not Dissing the plumber. I grew up with him. But lately Myamoto's entry in the Mario world has been really Pathetic, and although Jak and such would not be possible without the magic of the original Marios, Jak 1 and 2 improve on a worn and withering formula. I mean how much longer can we call collecting crap in a game fun? Jak 1 even had it, but expanded a little on it with some exploration. Jak two completely does away with it. And Ratchet and Clank 2 adds experience-gaining and huge worlds (of which there are 20) to the Mix. Myamoto really needs to freshen up the Mario franchise, because Sunshine bored me to no end, and I was a firm believer that the man could do no wrong, but I found myself playing Sunshine just because it was a Mario game, and not because I was truly enjoying it. Sometimes I think people review Miyamoto games based on his name, and not on how fun the games really are. As far as Mario 1-3 are. That is sacred and untouchable. Those games will always be memorable and fun. But from Mario 64 onward, the name Mario has worn on me.

Mario 3 may be a top seller, (although he didn't outsell Jak with his rerelease, I know, my cousin works at EB), but in the long run, Nintendo's arrogance has already been toppled by Sony Sales compared to Nintendo's. Nintendo is below X-box in terms of sales, and they are a new-commer. And Mario is nowhere without a system to be played on. This is because although the games of old were great in "old" they cannot hold up to the more-demanding gamers who want more out of their games than jumping and collecting coins.

And I agree Karpo, I can just play the arcade on Mame, so I am not that worried, but I would love to play it on my giant TV. And I do think the new game will be the best yet. Already there is one reason. Fighting Nano, and before that the giant mouser, I like that the game isn't just about hacking the enemy. There are strategies that make it a bit more challenging.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Does the GBA version of SMB 3 have anything extra? I still have the Allstars collection...

Yes it does. You can hook an e-reader to the game and scan in new items, suits, and best of all new levels. I don't know how many they plan to release, but the cartrifge can hold as many as 32! They might also give away a lot in Nintendo Power as well. One card lets you use the cape from Mario World, and another gives you the Boomerang Bros. choice of weapons, while another put veggies in the game to throw at enemys SMB2 style. I'm lookin forward to it.

[Prowl]

"Yes it does. You can hook an e-reader to the game and scan in new items, suits, and best of all new levels"

That sounds awsome, I am definitely getting that.

[ThirdMarioBro]

[quote="Prowl"]Dont worry ThirdMario, I am not Dissing the plumber. I grew up with him. But lately Myamoto's entry in the Mario world has been really Pathetic, and although Jak and such would not be possible without the magic of the original Marios, Jak 1 and 2 improve on a worn and withering formula. I mean how much longer can we call collecting crap in a game fun? Jak 1 even had it, but expanded a little on it with some exploration. Jak two completely does away with it. And Ratchet and Clank 2 adds experience-gaining and huge worlds (of which there are 20) to the Mix. Myamoto really needs to freshen up the Mario franchise, because Sunshine bored me to no end, and I was a firm believer that the man could do no wrong, but I found myself playing Sunshine just because it was a Mario game, and not because I was truly enjoying it. Sometimes I think people review Miyamoto games based on his name, and not on how fun the games really are. As far as Mario 1-3 are. That is sacred and untouchable. Those games will always be memorable and fun. But from Mario 64 onward, the name Mario has worn on me.
quote]


I don't agree. Sunshine was classic to me. The game had the best gameplay I've seen in ages and I love it. I'll be forever loyal to Nintendo.
Super Mario Bros. 3 has more depth that anything PS2 has to it's name,and I truly believe that. Sorry if I sound like I'm nagging. I'll leave it at that. :)

[Ninja Tiptup]

I love pretty much every Mario game except Sunshine. It just wasn't as good as they made it out to be and a far cry from the greatness that IS SM64. I do eagerly await SM128 (or whatever they are going to call it). Miyamoto says it's going to be a direct sequel!

[ThirdMarioBro]

Mario 128 is supposed to have some new gameplay element that makes it unique and special. I'm looking so forward to it that my legs are shaking. hehe. Myiamoto said he would release something about it around December, so we should find out soon. Sorry if I sound like a nag, but I get really defensive about my love for Mario. I've been reticuled about it by lots of people, and tend to get ticked off, resulting in people getting ticked at me. Oh well. I'm gonna go to bed. Gotta get up early and pick up my SMB3 and see if Gamestop got in TMNT yet! *looks at watch* ......*taps foot*...........*still waiting* hehehe

[Leo656]

Mario 64 is one of the best games I've ever played... now and then I STILL spend days of my life finding all 120 stars even though I've beaten that game like 5 times. And the only problem with Sunshine was that it was SO involved I just couldn't finish it (same problem I had with the new Zelda). I think it's great, I just need to fit it into my schedule so I can give it the attention it deserves.

[Kid Icarus]

Does the GBA version of SMB 3 have anything extra? I still have the Allstars collection...

Yes it does. You can hook an e-reader to the game and scan in new items, suits, and best of all new levels. I don't know how many they plan to release, but the cartrifge can hold as many as 32! They might also give away a lot in Nintendo Power as well. One card lets you use the cape from Mario World, and another gives you the Boomerang Bros. choice of weapons, while another put veggies in the game to throw at enemys SMB2 style. I'm lookin forward to it.

Just wanted to add that the item cards can be scanned over and over, and you can clear old levels off of the cart for more.... so in reality Nintendo can make hundreds of levels and release them on cards. Also, you could trade cards with people to get levels/item/demo cards you don't have.

[Karpo_007]

Well I have to agree with most people, I didn't like Sunshine much either. Mario 64 was a great game. It had good levels, music and graphics... pretty much everything. They all had mario feeling in them, either there was familiar enemies or musics. I really loved the game.

Sunshine, was a disapointment for me. Yes it does have Mario characters, but it does not feel like a Mario game to me. I'm not sure why, but thats how I feel.

But Myamoto had not lost his touch, not even close. New Zelda game is great, I'd say best Zelda game after A Link to the Past.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Mario 64's music is the best of any Mario game. Dire Dire Docks has to be the best VG song ever IMO.

[Barkworm]

But Myamoto had not lost his touch, not even close. New Zelda game is great, I'd say best Zelda game after A Link to the Past.
Finally someone who likes "WW" better than "Oot".

[Karpo_007]

Oot was a good first step into 3d, but the world seemed to limited. I think Wind Waker is a better game, but I think Adult Link was a better character.

[jeff the cheff]

smb3 is my favirote game of all time...but i never really liked 64 or sunshine that much.

[Peanut]

I smell fan boys all over this place! BTW GCN blew out both PS2 and X-Box in sales a couple weeks ago. 20% over PS2 and a mega whooping 145% over X-Box. BTW with all these people saying to play games for a living...I'd like to know how you're probably the only ones in the world who test games for a living. There's no such thing as a "game tester" career. No companies hire for that sort of thing. It's usually just for a couple months in order to work out some bugs. Sometimes of course it does last longer, but I know people who have confirmed to me that they are in the game testing business and they say it's impossible to find straight work testing games.

[Roseangelo]

Of course GCN sales have been higher since the price drop to $99. Duh.

[ThirdMarioBro]

but I think Adult Link was a better character.
Finally someone agrees with me. Thank you Karpo.

BTW GCN blew out both PS2 and X-Box in sales a couple weeks ago. 20% over PS2 and a mega whooping 145% over X-Box.
HOT DANG!! Another way to put it would be..."That's-a-very good, Woo-Hoo!"

Yes I am a devout fanboy. So much so that I taught myself how to immitate Mario's voice exactly. Ask me to anything in that voice and I can. Charles Martinet eat you're heart out.

I'm starting to sound wierd now. It's just kinda hard not to when 2 TMNT's, SMB3, Rouge Leader, and Kirby's Air Ride are coming out at the same time.

[Prowl]

Definitelty not a fanboy here. Own all systems, and the only thing I am a fan of is good games, and the system who has the most-original games is the one I support. And right now PS2 and GC are those systems (just got Star Wars last night).

But I do agree, GC only outsold them because of the 100 bucks price, and now it's all back to normal.

And Hell Yah Adult Link was the best.

Oh, and I said I worked in the game industry, but I never said I was a tester. I am a cinematics guy, and just like testing, it is a contract job, so we dont work in the same company for long. I am training in 3D modeling now, and I have some good connections with some guys from Microsoft here in Austin, but I just have to see what happens.

And Third Mario, you aren't nagging, just defending a game you really like, and I can respect that. I just got tired of collecting game long time ago, and I don't agree that Mario 3 has more deapth than any PS2 game because just the exploration value of Jak is more than a platform side-scroller can have (just in the fact that you are rewarded with more than just collecting another token).

I will say though, (and to further prove that I am not a PS2 fanboy) that Zelda owns them all in terms of really rewarding with depth and reward for exploration.

[ThirdMarioBro]

Thank you for putting it so well. I don't particulerly agree, but it's nice to have someone state their video game preferences without just saying...

"PS2 rox and GC sucz" or some crap like that.

I may not agree with your opinion, but I do respect it because you put it so well. Thank you for being an intelligent VG fan.