Tom and Jerry

[LeotheLateBloomer]

This next to TMNT, is one of my favorite cartoons to watch as a kid and to this day, I still love watching them. I loved the classics (Gene Deitch, to an extent) the 70s The New Tom and Jerry Show as a guilty pleasure, T&J Comedy Show, Kids, Tales, and the 2014 cartoon. I also liked some of the movies (even The original).

What was your memory with Tom and Jerry? Do you like any of the movies or the current 2014 animated cartoon? Who do you like more Tom or Jerry?

Always preferred Tom!

[CyberCubed]

All the classic Tom and Jerry's that Cartoon Network used to rerun back in the 90's. I also like Tom and Jerry kids. Never seen the newest incarnation.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

The 2014 show is flash animated but it's actually pretty entertaining. It's not amazing but it recaptures the old spirit of the originals while adding it's own charm to it. I like how it brings back plenty of characters from the classics even ones like Duckling and Meathead (from Sufferin' Cats). Mammy Two Shoes was the only one that didn't return. She reappeared in T&J Tales but she was changed from black to white.

[Wesley]

I haven't watched Tom and Jerry in years, but I liked watching the old ones that were rerun on rte two and on vhs when I was younger. I'm surprised that that so many episodes have been made over the decades. I preferred Tom as well, as I prefer underdog characters.

The episode that stood out for me was Blue Cat Blues. That was a dark ep for a kids cartoon.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I love Tom and Jerry to death, especially the classic episodes by the original creators. Enjoyed the new series such as Tom and Jerry tales as well and I think the 2014 series is very well done.

Not interested in the movies except for the first one where Tom and jerry talk. I think its one of those movies that's so bad its amazing. I cannot stop laughing everytime I watch Nostalgia Critics review of it.

[drgon78]

My favorite episode is when ether Tom or Spike must catch Jerry, the one that fails gets kicked out of the house.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

@drgon78: Pet Peeve was a good one.

No gonna lie, in the original movie where Aunt Figg wakes up to discover that they escaped, I thought she said that she has to call the butler "Lickpoot" instead of Lickboot. :o: lol: Don't judge, it's just what I thought I heard.

I always saw Jerry as a jerk! Love the episodes where Tom does win over him.

[drgon78]

I also like the musketeer style episodes with the little grey mouse. One where Jerry is writing love letters and another where they are stealing food.

[ssjup81]

Loved Tom & Jerry growing up, even the 70s version where Jerry wore the bow tie. As for the Tom and Jerry Kids show...I didn't care for it.

As an adult, seems I prefer the 40s/50s era for them and lack the patience to watch the mediocre attempts (imo) made after this. Occasionally I may have come across some I liked, like the one where Jerry was sleepwalking (Chuck Jones era), for example, but it still can't top the earlier shorts for me.

[CyberCubed]

What were the ones where that French mouse started showing up? He was like the Scrappy Doo of Tom and Jerry.

[ssjup81]

What were the ones where that French mouse started showing up? He was like the Scrappy Doo of Tom and Jerry.It depends on the short. The ones that took place in France, as a Muskateer along with Jerry, he had a French accent. The one focusing around Robin Hood, he had like cockney type accent. In the normal ones, like Tom and Jerry, he didn't speak at all. Thinking about it, he wasn't in many shorts.

Anyway, seems he popped up in the 50s.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Nibbles (I think that's the small grey mouse's name) had a relatively strong presence in 'Tom and Jerry Tales'.

[Prowler]

I liked Tom & Jerry back in the 90s when I was a kid.

As I grew older, I realised that Jerry was a dick and that in a lot of episodes Tom was the one getting bullied.

I prefer Looney Tunes, personally.

[Jephael]

As I grew older, I realised that Jerry was a dick and that in a lot of episodes Tom was the one getting bullied.

Hence where Simpsons got the inspiration for these two nut balls!!!

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[TurtleTitan97]

The older Tom & Jerry cartoons were great. It's just a shame they had to tone down the violence as time went on.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Nibbles (I think that's the small grey mouse's name) had a relatively strong presence in 'Tom and Jerry Tales'.

He's called Nibbles in the earlier shorts whereas now, he's known as Tuffy. The video games, Kids, and most other versions call him Tuffy. The Magic Ring is where they called him Nibbles again. He didn't start speaking til the Mouseketeer shorts and Robin Hoodwinked. In modern day works, he can speak in non-Mouseketeer shorts. He has a bigger presence in the new cartoon.

What were the ones where that French mouse started showing up? He was like the Scrappy Doo of Tom and Jerry.

I don't think Tuffy is anywhere near as obnoxious as Scrappy. Especially in the ones where he doesn't speak.

[Coola Yagami]

I liked Tom & Jerry back in the 90s when I was a kid.

As I grew older, I realised that Jerry was a dick and that in a lot of episodes Tom was the one getting bullied.

I prefer Looney Tunes, personally.

I agree. Now I understand the ones where Tom was abusing Jerry and he got his comeuppance, but there times where Tom just wanted to eat or take a nap and Jerry would be the one starting crap, and of course Tom would retaliate, but Jerry would win in the end with triumphant cheerful music playing as Tom gets punished... when Jerry was the ones that started the whole thing. I loved the one where they'd either both lose, or Tom would actually win.

I also remember the dark one during the French fencing era, where Tom was executed for failing to catch Jerry and Nibbles. Ouch. Farewell Mosier Pussycat indeed...

Hell, when you think about it... while most times Tom would go after Jerry on his own accord, there were plenty of times he didn't really care, but was told to get him by his owner, and then he get punished when he failed to get rid of him. Most of the times he was getting into trouble because his owners would make him do stuff.

Also hated the modern movies and whatnot that would Tom into some kind of idiot for comedy relief. Jerry would always be the one that knows the right or smart thing to do, and Tom would be the one to fumble, bungle and screw things up. Or he'd do something the wrong way so that Jerry would do things the right way. At least the theatrical Tom and Jerry movie kept that to a minimum, even though they made them talk.

[Prowler]

I agree. Now I understand the ones where Tom was abusing Jerry and he got his comeuppance, but there times where Tom just wanted to eat or take a nap and Jerry would be the one starting crap, and of course Tom would retaliate, but Jerry would win in the end with triumphant cheerful music playing as Tom gets punished... when Jerry was the ones that started the whole thing. I loved the one where they'd either both lose, or Tom would actually win.

I also remember the dark one during the French fencing era, where Tom was executed for failing to catch Jerry and Nibbles. Ouch. Farewell Mosier Pussycat indeed...

Hell, when you think about it... while most times Tom would go after Jerry on his own accord, there were plenty of times he didn't really care, but was told to get him by his owner, and then he get punished when he failed to get rid of him. Most of the times he was getting into trouble because his owners would make him do stuff.

Also hated the modern movies and whatnot that would Tom into some kind of idiot for comedy relief. Jerry would always be the one that knows the right or smart thing to do, and Tom would be the one to fumble, bungle and screw things up. Or he'd do something the wrong way so that Jerry would do things the right way. At least the theatrical Tom and Jerry movie kept that to a minimum, even though they made them talk.
Oh that movie? It came out in... 1999? 2000? Yeah Tom and Jerry talking was odd. But hey i was a kid so I liked the movie.

[CyberCubed]

Its a shame the young kids of today don't know about classic cartoons like this. I don't know what trash they're growing up with today.

[Prowler]

Its a shame the young kids of today don't know about classic cartoons like this. I don't know what trash they're growing up with today.
Id unno do CN and Boomerang still air Hanna-Barbera classics and Looney Tunes shorts like they did in the 90s?

[Coola Yagami]

Id unno do CN and Boomerang still air Hanna-Barbera classics and Looney Tunes shorts like they did in the 90s?

I'm pretty sure they still do... but what kid watches Boomerang? Not when they have CN and Nick.

[Coola Yagami]

Oh that movie? It came out in... 1999? 2000? Yeah Tom and Jerry talking was odd. But hey i was a kid so I liked the movie.

Yeah, the 1999 or so movie still didn't treat Tom like a complete tool, but the ones after that, like where they meet Merlin or go to space and other junk like that always makes Tom into an idiot, whenever he's not chasing Jerry of course.

[Prowler]

I'm pretty sure they still do... but what kid watches Boomerang? Not when they have CN and Nick.
No idea, man. I haven't watched CN in over a decade. What is boomerang like nowadays?

[Coola Yagami]

No idea, man. I haven't watched CN in over a decade. What is boomerang like nowadays?

IDK. Haven't really seen it in years, but last I heard they were adding the original Powerpuff Girls to the line up, so I guess, now several years later, it must have a slightly more modern line up while still keeping all the old HB stuff?

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I agree. Now I understand the ones where Tom was abusing Jerry and he got his comeuppance, but there times where Tom just wanted to eat or take a nap and Jerry would be the one starting crap, and of course Tom would retaliate, but Jerry would win in the end with triumphant cheerful music playing as Tom gets punished... when Jerry was the ones that started the whole thing. I loved the one where they'd either both lose, or Tom would actually win.

I also remember the dark one during the French fencing era, where Tom was executed for failing to catch Jerry and Nibbles. Ouch. Farewell Mosier Pussycat indeed...

Hell, when you think about it... while most times Tom would go after Jerry on his own accord, there were plenty of times he didn't really care, but was told to get him by his owner, and then he get punished when he failed to get rid of him. Most of the times he was getting into trouble because his owners would make him do stuff.

Also hated the modern movies and whatnot that would Tom into some kind of idiot for comedy relief. Jerry would always be the one that knows the right or smart thing to do, and Tom would be the one to fumble, bungle and screw things up. Or he'd do something the wrong way so that Jerry would do things the right way. At least the theatrical Tom and Jerry movie kept that to a minimum, even though they made them talk.

Yes, The Two Mouseketeers is the one where Tom gets executed at the end of the episode and I despise that short with a passion.

Perhaps my favorite episode is Little School Mouse which is a role reversal short of Professor Tom where Jerry teaches Tuffy how to outsmart a cat which Tuffy manages to successfully do it the right way whereas Jerry's way resulted in him getting thrashed. That was an episode where Tom won at the end.:D

[Wildcat]

Tom never really dies. He supposedly gets the guillotine in 2 Mouseketeers but I mean come on...pretty much everything that happens to him would realistically kill him. I know it's portrayed sorta seriously but it's just a joke.

I like all the versions. I haven't seen all the movies though. Not even the first. The latest would probably be my least favorite. Not because of the flash animation. I just felt they kinda dragged on at times. Some are good.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Its a shame the young kids of today don't know about classic cartoons like this. I don't know what trash they're growing up with today.

LOL true, the older Tom and Jerry are still very watchable today, much like Disney's older cartoons and their Silly syphonies.

[Mayhem]

Due to the censorship and cuts down the ages, and for when they were rebroadcast on CN (they redubbed the African houselady to make her less Southern sounding), I actually have a fairly old set of Tom & Jerry DVDs from China, that has pretty much 99% of everything HB put out. I think there's one cut, but that's it. Can run back to those if I fancy a laugh heh.

The BBC used to frequently put on the odd T&J cartoon when they had a random five minutes to fill back in the 80s and 90s, but since CN starting showing them coupled with likely a reduction in cartoon violence on mainstream TV and better scheduling, they started disappearing from screens in the mid 90s.

[sdp]

LOL true, the older Tom and Jerry are still very watchable today, much like Disney's older cartoons and their Silly syphonies.

People say this but when I was a kid in the 90s, watching classic Tom and Jerry/Looney Tunes etc all felt like ancient cartoons without much to laugh at. I preferred them over 80s shows but that's because 80s cartoons were boring and formulaic as hell. I don't think that they're all that watchable to kids.

[ZariusTwo]

that's because 80s cartoons were boring and formulaic as hell

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[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Hence where Simpsons got the inspiration for these two nut balls!!!

And TMNT had "Cheezy and Sleazy" in Rondo in New York.

[Leo656]

I've heard nothing but awful things about that new movie that came out, but Chloe Moretz is in it so I might have to watch it at some point.

[Sumac]

People say this but when I was a kid in the 90s, watching classic Tom and Jerry/Looney Tunes etc all felt like ancient cartoons without much to laugh at. I preferred them over 80s shows but that's because 80s cartoons were boring and formulaic as hell. I don't think that they're all that watchable to kids.
You must have problems with sense of humor if you find old Looney Tunes and Tom & Jerry not funny.
Also, despite being formulaic 80s show were pretty good. Not all of them, but still.

[superstaff]

No idea, man. I haven't watched CN in over a decade. What is boomerang like nowadays?

Boomerang is mostly reruns of Tom & Jerry, Scooby Doo (various shows, old and new), and Looney Tunes. They also show some Cartoon Cartoons, though after midnight. It's a very boring schedule.

You must have problems with sense of humor if you find old Looney Tunes and Tom & Jerry not funny.
Also, despite being formulaic 80s show were pretty good. Not all of them, but still.

I guess I have problems with my sense of humor too. I appreciate what Tom & Jerry and Looney Tunes did to pioneer many things in animation. However, anytime I try to sit down and watch them again, I get bored really quickly. MeTV airs them every day, and I tried to re-watch some of them, and again, I got a little fed up after three or so shorts, and changed the channel. I don't hate them, though.

As for the 80s, I think the 80s is when cartoons began to experiment and dabble in storytelling, so I really appreciate them for that. I tend to have more of a tolerance for 80s shows than I do for anything pre-80s. I was born near the end of the 80s so I kind of-sort of grew up on those, but I was more of a 90s kids.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

I've heard nothing but awful things about that new movie that came out, but Chloe Moretz is in it so I might have to watch it at some point.

I don't know if I'd call it bad but the Tom and Jerry scenes are the best parts of the film. The humans though, you either tolerate them or you don't. It's pretty much a meh movie.

You must have problems with sense of humor if you find old Looney Tunes and Tom & Jerry not funny.
Also, despite being formulaic 80s show were pretty good. Not all of them, but still.

I can't tell if it's his personal preference or just him sh*tposting.

[Anarchistguy]

I preferred them over 80s shows but that's because 80s cartoons were boring and formulaic as hell.

So to you, Garfield and Friends and The Real Ghostbusters were boring as hell??

[IMJ]

So to you, Garfield and Friends and The Real Ghostbusters were boring as hell??

Remember Heathcliff? That was a great show.... the opening song was awesome lmfao

[Leo656]

I don't know if I'd call it bad but the Tom and Jerry scenes are the best parts of the film. The humans though, you either tolerate them or you don't.

Man, I would "tolerate" Chloe Moretz SO f*cking hard. :lol:

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Man, I would "tolerate" Chloe Moretz SO f*cking hard. :lol:

Well now that she's older, she could be eye candy for more roles. Personally I prefer Hailee Steinfield and Becky G but I cannot ignore how stunning Moretz looks in a uniform. Actually since you'll see a majority of her in this movie, maybe you will enjoy it!:lol: Just get past some of her dialogue and call it good!

[Anarchistguy]

Eh..

I'll take this movie over the talking Tom and Jerry from that god awful 1992 movie anyday. At least they actually FEEL like Tom and Jerry in this movie

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Like I said, it's not really that good but the Tom and Jerry scenes are pretty solid and pay homage to the original cartoons. T&J movies have a bad habit of sticking the title characters into folklore stories where they have to work together which doesn't make them enjoyable. Still, they give us the slapstick we all enjoy which the 1992 film failed at, it

[sdp]

You must have problems with sense of humor if you find old Looney Tunes and Tom & Jerry not funny.

I have problems for not finding slapstick comedic funny? I'm sure it was funny in the 40s and 60s when it originally aired.


Also, despite being formulaic 80s show were pretty good. Not all of them, but still.

Of course there's going to be some good 80s shows, and some shows with excellent concepts but boring executions (because it was only a kids cartoon).

It wasn't really until the 90s when cartoons started to actually be more than just a cheap way to get kids to buy toys. And even then it wasn't all shows either. it was the 2000's when writers actually started to care for the stuff they were writing.


So to you, Garfield and Friends and The Real Ghostbusters were boring as hell??

I dont' have an opinion on real ghostbusters so I don't know. Garfield and Friends is basically a 90s show, it began airing in 89 and the first season wasn't the best either.

[ZariusTwo]

It wasn't really until the 90s when cartoons started to actually be more than just a cheap way to get kids to buy toys. And even then it wasn't all shows either. it was the 2000's when writers actually started to care for the stuff they were writing.

Troll harder.

There were still s*it tons of commercialised cartoons with zero heart and soul to them in the 2000s more so than in the 80s and 90s...particularly all the dubbed animes.

[Sumac]

I have problems for not finding slapstick comedic funny? I'm sure it was funny in the 40s and 60s when it originally aired.

OK, groucho. :lol:

It wasn't really until the 90s when cartoons started to actually be more than just a cheap way to get kids to buy toys. And even then it wasn't all shows either. it was the 2000's when writers actually started to care for the stuff they were writing.
What the heck am I reading?

[sdp]

Troll harder.

There were still s*it tons of commercialised cartoons with zero heart and soul to them in the 2000s more so than in the 80s and 90s...particularly all the dubbed animes.

Quality in animation grew each decade, of course there's going to be bad shows and a large batch of them and of course you can like those bad shows, I know I like plenty. But truly quality shows in general were more common in the 00's. The industry had just evolved over the last few decades and entertainment for kids didn't mean it needed to be dumbed down anymore.

[Anarchistguy]

Garfield and Friends is basically a 90s show, it began airing in 89 and the first season wasn't the best either.

It came out in 1988

[ssjup81]

I have problems for not finding slapstick comedic funny? I'm sure it was funny in the 40s and 60s when it originally aired.For me, personally, I've always found some slapstick funny. I was watching Tom & Jerry cartoons the other day on Boomerang...well, as I 've said earlier in this thread, I prefer the 40s - 50s era for Tom & Jerry toons.

I guess slapstick just isn't much of a thing these days, eh? Seems the WB cartoons from the 90s had slapstick in it and did like those...I dont' have an opinion on real ghostbusters so I don't know. Garfield and Friends is basically a 90s show, it began airing in 89 and the first season wasn't the best either.The Real Ghostbusters was better when it was syndicated and before ABC airings screwed it up. Had to be toned and dumbed down (imo) and put Slimer in everything. Couldn't even reference that the ghosts were actual deceased humans at one point.Oh, and screwed up Janine's character. Venkman too...imo. He became too nice to Slimer, which was boring. Conflict makes things interesting. IMO, the first two seasons are the only ones worth watching and maybe some of 3.

[Leo656]

Once Dave Coulier became Venkman and Kath Soucie became Janine, things spiraled downhill fast for "The Real Ghostbusters". Making it "The Slimer Show" was the final nail but by then there were other problems.

I'm generally a very big fan of Kath Soucie but she was all wrong for Janine. Like, she didn't even do a voice, she mostly just used her regular speaking voice - which sounds NOTHING like Janine from either the movies or the early seasons of the show. It almost felt like they hired her for that role because nobody else showed up to audition after the original voice actor left. The fact that they devoted an entire episode to trying to give an in-story explanation for her voice and character model changing just kind of made it worse, honestly.

But yeah, the "Slimer & The Real Ghostbusters" stuff was pretty unwatchable. That show definitely limped to the finish line.

The early seasons, though? Still golden. Easily - EASILY - among the Top 5 80s Cartoons, maybe even Top 3.

[ZariusTwo]

The movie's premise has led to a new spin-off series, premiering July

https://kidscreen.com/2021/06/11/hbo-max-orders-new-tom-and-jerry-series/

[neatoman]

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