DC Streaming Service Live Action Titans and Young Justice

[Autbot_Benz]

DC Digital Service To Launch With ‘Titans’ Series From Greg Berlanti & Akiva Goldsman And ‘Young Justice: Outsiders’

EXCLUSIVE: Warner Bros is making a big move in digital with one of its flagship brands. Warner Bros and DC Entertainment are behind a new, DC-branded service that will debut in 2018 with two high-profile comic book-themed original TV series: the live-action Titans, from the king of the CW DC universe Greg Berlanti, Akiva Goldsman, Geoff Johns, Sarah Schechter and Warner Bros TV, and the anticipated revival of cult animated series Young Justice, from Warner Bros Animation. It will be titled Young Justice: Outsiders.

The DC-branded direct-to-consumer digital platform, in the works for the past several months, marks the second major new service launched by Warner Bros Digital Networks — the division started last year with the mandate of building WB-owned digital and OTT video services — following the recently introduced animation-driven Boomerang. The DC-branded platform is expected to offer more than a traditional OTT service; it is designed as an immersive experience with fan interaction and will encompass comics as well as TV series.

Titans, written by Goldsman (Star Trek: Discovery, Underground), DC Entertainment president & chief creative officer Johns (The Flash, Arrow) and Berlanti (Arrow, DC’s Legends Of Tomorrow, The Flash, Supergirl), explores one of the most popular comic book teams ever. It follows a group of young soon-to-be superheroes recruited from every corner of the DC Universe. In the action-adventure series, Dick Grayson emerges from the shadows to become the leader of a fearless band of new heroes that includes Starfire, Raven and others.

Goldsman, Johns and Berlanti Prods’ Berlanti and Schechter (Arrow, DC’s Legends Of Tomorrow, The Flash, Supergirl) executive produce Titans, from Weed Road Pictures and Berlanti Productions in association with Warner Bros Television.

A live-action Titans was originally ordered as a pilot by Warner Bros TV sibling TNT in 2014, with Goldsman writing the adaptation alongside Marc Haimes. The regime change at TNT put the project in limbo, and it ultimately did not go forward.

WBTV and DC then brought Titans under the purview of Berlanti, who oversees all four DC/WBTV superhero drama series on the CW as well as the CW Seed DC animated series Constantine. Berlanti teamed for what is a new take on the Titans characters with Goldsman and Johns, who also co-wrote The Flash pilot with Berlanti and Andrew Kreisberg. There was stong interest in the project from outside, including from an SVOD provider, but Warner Bros opted to make the show a cornerstone of the new DC digital service.

In Young Justice: Outsiders, the teenage superheroes of the DC Universe come of age in an animated world of superpowers, super villains and super secrets. In the new season, the team faces its greatest challenge as it takes on meta-human trafficking and the terrifying threat it creates for a society caught in the crossfire of a genetic arms race spanning the globe and the galaxy.

Sam Register (Teen Titans Go!) is executive producing. The show’s creators Brandon Vietti and Greg Weisman are producers; with the series’ Phil Bourassa also returning to serve as art director.

Praised by critics and DC fans for its impressive visuals and rich storytelling, Young Justice aired for two seasons on Cartoon Network, from 2010-2013, before it was cancelled, triggering a crowdfunding effort to bring it back. The series won a primetime Emmy for Individual Achievement in Animation for Bousassa for the “Independence Day” episode in 2011.

Following months of speculation, Warner Bros Animation last November announced it has begun production on a third season of all-new episodes. At the time there was no network, with the series testing the marketplace, and was rumored as a possibility for Netflix, which carries the existing two seasons of Young Justice. But Warner Bros decided to run Young Justice: Outsiders on the new DC platform.

Titans marks the first live-action series in the digital space for DC Entertainment, which has seven broadcast series on the air, Supergirl, Arrow, Flash, DC’s Legends Of Tomorrow and iZombie on the CW, and Gotham and Lucifer on Fox.

The use of established titles with strong fan following like Titans and Young Justice to jump-start the new DC-branded service is reminiscent of CBS’ bet on a new Star Trek series and a Good Wife spinoff, The Good Fight, for its CBS All Access as new platforms aften rely on built-in awareness and name recognition to stand out in the competitive digital space.

http://deadline.com/2017/04/dc-digital-service-titans-young-justice-outsiders-1202076831/


I am getting sick of all these streaming services

[blindturtle02]

So do we have to have cable and to list our provider in order to use this thing? If this is similar to FXNOW and Simpsons World, then I guess I'm SOL for cutting the cord.

[Cure]

So do we have to have cable and to list our provider in order to use this thing? If this is similar to FXNOW and Simpsons World, then I guess I'm SOL for cutting the cord.

I don't think so. That's for streaming services tied to TV networks. I think this is its own streaming thing, like WWE Network or Crunchyroll.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I don't like the practice, but I'm happy to pay for it since I imagine it was a big factor in getting Young Justice revived.

[Raph's Girl]

Ah the ever expanding Berlanti-verse. We need a Berlanti show on Fridays! Unless that's where Black Lightning will be??

So Berlanti shows:
Arrow
Flash
LOT
Supergirl
Riverdale
Black Lightning
Titans

Now to see who they cast as the various Titans.

[Autbot_Benz]

seems a lot of other peeps on twitter are annoyed and don't want another streaming service. YJ Season 3 should have been on Netflix if you ask me.

The only good thing about this is Titans won't be on the god awful CW. so This show won't suffer from those obnoxious Shippers .

[TheSkeletonMan939]

YJ Season 3 should have been on Netflix if you ask me.

But I think that YJ was only renewed for the sake of this streaming service. Didn't you think it was a little weird that WB suddenly announced they were producing a third season out of the blue, when toy sales were always unfavorable? Producing a single episode costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, plus marketing and whatever else; WB isn't doing this just to be nice.
DC wanted a new streaming platform and knew that it wouldn't last a day without some seriously intriguing content on it. YJ season 3 was a perfect candidate, especially after last year's big Netflix hullabaloo.

[Autbot_Benz]

But I think that YJ was only renewed for the sake of this streaming service. Didn't you think it was a little weird that WB suddenly announced they were producing a third season out of the blue, when toy sales were always unfavorable? Producing a single episode costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, plus marketing and whatever else; WB isn't doing this just to be nice.
DC wanted a new streaming platform and knew that it wouldn't last a day without some seriously intriguing content on it. YJ season 3 was a perfect candidate, especially after last year's big Netflix hullabaloo.

ya seemed odd the showrunners kept telling us to watch it on netflix to show that people want it back and poof its not going to be on netflix

[TheSkeletonMan939]

It's not like the showrunners had any clue DC was planning this streaming thing. All they wanted was for the show's popularity to be proven (or, if Netflix ratings were low, be disproven). Where the show ended up was out of their hands.

[Autbot_Benz]

Its like I said I will watch YJ S3 on cartoon sites when they get uploaded. I just hope Titans doesn't suck.

[sdp]

This is cool but I really can't justify having a DC Network on my monthly bills unless it's ridiculously cheap like less than $5. I guess we're really going a la carte with online streaming in the near future. ;(

[Redeemer]

Didn't you think it was a little weird that WB suddenly announced they were producing a third season out of the blue, when toy sales were always unfavorable? Producing a single episode costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, plus marketing and whatever else; WB isn't doing this just to be nice.

Toy Sales for Young Justice where actually good. The problem was that Young Justice Toys were tied to the Green Lantern toy line as a packaged deal. When the Green Lantern Toys tanked it killed the deal. - This was how it was explained by the voice actor for Aqualad.
You don't revive a unprofitable or failing show to support a new streaming service. You are right though they are not doing this to be nice only for profit.

[TurtleTitan97]

Filming for Titans will start on September 25th: http://omegaunderground.com/2017/06/06/dc-comics-live-action-titans-series-begins-production-september-atlanta/

[TurtleTitan97]

Character breakdowns for Nightwing, Raven, Starfire, and apparently Beast Boy: https://www.comicbookmovie.com/teen_titans/titans-tv-series-character-breakdowns-reveal-some-intriguing-new-details-about-the-four-team-members-a151890

[John Crossland ]Male, late 20s-early 30s, Caucasian. Equal parts charm and impenetrability, John is a cop. He has a nice smile, tired eyes and a cool, distant manner. However, when provoked, his eyes are so lethal “they drain a man of every last bit of spleen.” John is haunted by the murder of his family. Unbeknownst to those around him, he is also a vigilante. In the shadows, he fights with the commitment and conviction of an artist, the brutal grace of a dancer. Mentally and physically, he is covered in a map of scars. And though he fights to escape his past, it is often a losing battle…SERIES LEAD

[SARAH] Female, Mid teens, Open Ethnicity. Troubled, bullied, often scared but unwilling to show it, Sarah is a loner more comfortable hiding in her hoodie than making friends. Haunted by a dark force inside her, Sarah experiences violent episodes that she cannot understand or control. She is also plagued by recurring nightmares that lead her across the country in search of help…SERIES REGULAR

[Casey Female, 20s, Open ethnicity. Casey is a tall, stunning woman, her beauty so magnificent it’s almost inhuman. Elegant, refined and mysterious, she is on the hunt to discover who is trying to kill her and why. And those after her are in for a surprise because she’s more deadly than anyone they’ve ever encountered…SERIES REGULAR

[JAX] Male, Mid-late teens, Open Ethnicity, Asian preferred. Funny and charming, this amateur thief’s humor hides his insecurities and past pain. Not the toughest kid on the streets, he’s learned to survive in the world with his wit and quick-thinking…SERIES REGULAR

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Is this going to be CW? Because if so, sigh.

But otherwise... interested. The more Batman mythology they cram in there, the better. (Unlike Arrow.)

[Cure]

Is this going to be CW? Because if so, sigh.


I thought the title and original post of the thread were pretty clear as to where this is airing.

[Coola Yagami]

No thanks. If I care enough I'll eventually get it on a season set or something.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I thought the title and original post of the thread were pretty clear as to where this is airing.

My bad, you're right.

Hope it does well. I suppose they'll have to stay away from using established CW characters like a Kid Flash or Speedy. What about Aqualad? He's a thing, right?

[Autbot_Benz]

Raven has been cast she will be played by 13 year old actress Australian newcomer Teagan Croft

https://deadline.com/2017/08/titans-teagan-croft-cast-raven-greg-berlanti-dc-digital-series-1202142006/

[CyberCubed]

Raven is only 13? WTF? Isn't that a little young?

[dl316bh]

Raven is only 13? WTF? Isn't that a little young?
That was about my reaction as well, but they might portray her as fourteen or so in the series (and Teagan herself might be that age by the time they film this thing). The only thing I can think of is that they might plan on this being a long runner with the characters aging over time, so they start young with a couple of them. But that's a guess on my part. I imagine Beast Boy will be of similar age; it seems like they always cast him as younger than most of the members, like when they used him in Young Justice for some odd reason. Anyone else is a toss-up. We don't know a ton about this so far.

I've never seen anything with her, so I have no clue if she's any good. I tried to IMDB her and she's only got two prior credits under her belt, so she's definitely new. But then, so were the kids in Stranger Things, so I don't know.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Raven is only 13? WTF? Isn't that a little young?

They're probably hoping that the show will live on long enough that the Titans can grow up throughout the series.

[Autbot_Benz]

Starfire has been cast

http://i.imgur.com/fDoN0ZL.jpg

she is played by Anna Diop

[CyberCubed]

I sure hope they make her skin orange then, because black Starfire is yet another pointless race change.

[Spike Spiegel]

I sure hope they make her skin orange then, because black Starfire is yet another pointless race change.

http://33.media.tumblr.com/47a679d573e0efdad50e7122a5b2a104/tumblr_nrkm4i8I661us08ddo1_500.gif

[Redeemer]

I sure hope they make her skin orange then, because black Starfire is yet another pointless race change.

I have to agree :ohwell: Give me orange skin or cancel the show!

They should have just casted Ivanka Trump to play the role. She grew up in privilege and has orange skin :lol:

[plastroncafe]

Isn't the fact that it's a human playing an alien in itself a pointless race change?

[sdp]

It's just pandering if she's not orange, maybe if they hadn't "promoted" Cyborg; a change that no one likes they wouldn't have to fill in their "black" quota. I'd totally love to see Cyborg here where he belongs. Horrible decisions. I hope she's orange.

How old is she anyway? She looks a bit old to be playing a teen titan, then again the comic star fire was never young looking but she seems to be pushing it, her boobs also seem small for Starfire who like Powergirl is kind of part of her character design.

13 year old Raven is an interesting but it could work.

I don't know how much hope I have for this show, titans is not something that works on a tv budget or live action

I just can't add another DC show to all the ones I'm already watching, jeeze, I never thought I'd say we have too many DC shows.

As far as the streaming service I can see it being something I subscribe to one month and binge everything that has happened once a year or so. Hell that seems to be the only way to go when everyone and their mother has a streaming service. Keep netflix and change between the others for original shows every month.

[CyberCubed]

If they don't make her skin orange and Beast Boy's skin green, then what's the point? Starfire isn't black, she's orange. It'd be like introducing a white Cyborg.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Because OF COURSE we're all going to freak out that a black woman was cast to play an alien princess.

Completely predictable.

[ToTheNines]

You're such a fuc*ing hillbilly sometimes.

[Autbot_Benz]

they will probably use cgi like for David Harewood's Martian Manhunter for the skin color of Starfire if not body paint

[snake]

I'm more mad at 13 year old Raven than Blackfire (hah).

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm more mad at 13 year old Raven than Blackfire (hah).

It does seem odd, especially now that we see the age difference between Raven and Starfire (and presumably the rest of the cast).

They're probably trying to latch onto Eleven's marketability (Stranger Things).

[CyberCubed]

I think most comic fans would be really bothered if both Starfire and Beast Boy aren't correctly colored their runs on the show. Watch Beast Boy not be green either, and just be whatever skin color the actor they cast him as.

[Candy Kappa]

Beast Boy could also start out as red instead of green thanks to New 52

I think Starfire would look great with just her natural skin color with a rich purple costume, the fiery hair, maybe have make-up give her a golden glow to achieve a similar effect like Live-Action Heimdall. It'd make a more striking visuals compared to painting the actor in a alien orange and dull up the color mix.

[Redeemer]

It's just pandering if she's not orange, maybe if they hadn't "promoted" Cyborg; a change that no one likes they wouldn't have to fill in their "black" quota. I'd totally love to see Cyborg here where he belongs. Horrible decisions. I hope she's orange.

How old is she anyway? She looks a bit old to be playing a teen titan, then again the comic star fire was never young looking but she seems to be pushing it, her boobs also seem small for Starfire who like Powergirl is kind of part of her character design.

13 year old Raven is an interesting but it could work.

I don't know how much hope I have for this show, titans is not something that works on a tv budget or live action

I just can't add another DC show to all the ones I'm already watching, jeeze, I never thought I'd say we have too many DC shows.

As far as the streaming service I can see it being something I subscribe to one month and binge everything that has happened once a year or so. Hell that seems to be the only way to go when everyone and their mother has a streaming service. Keep netflix and change between the others for original shows every month.
WTF.... wait so Cyborg is not going to be in the show????? WOW!!!! No wonder TNT scrapped the project

Because OF COURSE we're all going to freak out that a black woman was cast to play an alien princess.

Completely predictable.

I don't think anyone has a problem with a black actress playing Star Fire. I think people are more concerned about taking an iconic character with an iconic look and drastically changing the character.

As I said before I hope they give us a classic star fire look. But hopefully they make the mini skirt at least a little longer than what it is in the comics :lol:

[Autbot_Benz]

Dick Grayson has been cast

http://i.imgur.com/FMmNfAT.jpg

http://deadline.com/2017/08/titans-brenton-thwaites-lead-dick-grayson-dc-live-action-series-robin-1202159057/

[Autbot_Benz]

http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2017/09/07/breaking-news-titans-lands-its-hawk-and-dove?sf112329969=1

Alan Ritchson (Raph from the PD movies) is playing Hawk

Minka Kelly is playing Dove

[TurtleTitan97]

Ryan Potter has been casted as Beast Boy: http://tvline.com/2017/10/18/titans-beast-boy-cast-ryan-potter-dc-streaming-series/

[dl316bh]

I know this is a month and a half late reaction, but wait, goddamn Hawk and Dove are going to be in this thing?

Really?

That is some C list stuff going on there. I assume they won't be regulars.

[Redeemer]

So apparently Raven is going to be in Young Justice season 3 and Tera Strong will be reprising her role voicing Raven!!!

[DestronMirage22]

So apparently Raven is going to be in Young Justice season 3 and Tera Strong will be reprising her role voicing Raven!!!

That's cool.
I always liked her voice for Raven, it always seemed right for the character.

[ZariusTwo]

Hopefully she gets with Garfield. TTG always 'ship teases the two, but I'd like them to have a stab at something more adult. The comics haven't had them together since before Flashpoint (and even then it was a last minute hook up)

[sdp]

The comics only ever had them because fans of the cartoon shipped them together when they specifically said they only had a friendly relationship. I'll admit I did like that ship in the original Teen Titans though. If they're shipped here it'll be like every other relationship in the series, quick and without much depth.


I hope this third season doesn't end on a cliffhanger again, I see this as DC throwing fans a bone to see if it sticks but I just don't see it getting the support it should as most people will just pirate it, especially the vocal fans and DC will just cancel it after this. It's really a gesture of good will but man, makes little sense financially. I don't think there's still a big enough audience for people to care and it'll be hard to get people back into it, hope I'm wrong though.

[ZariusTwo]

The comics only ever had them because fans of the cartoon shipped them together when they specifically said they only had a friendly relationship.

And they made the mistake of writing them like a close but bickering pair, and as such it became perceived as a more natural relationship than most of the legimitate 'ships on that show

[TheSkeletonMan939]

So apparently Raven is going to be in Young Justice season 3 and Tera Strong will be reprising her role voicing Raven!!!

Source? I can't immediately find anything.

[Redeemer]

The comics only ever had them because fans of the cartoon shipped them together when they specifically said they only had a friendly relationship. I'll admit I did like that ship in the original Teen Titans though. If they're shipped here it'll be like every other relationship in the series, quick and without much depth.


I hope this third season doesn't end on a cliffhanger again, I see this as DC throwing fans a bone to see if it sticks but I just don't see it getting the support it should as most people will just pirate it, especially the vocal fans and DC will just cancel it after this. It's really a gesture of good will but man, makes little sense financially. I don't think there's still a big enough audience for people to care and it'll be hard to get people back into it, hope I'm wrong though.

Young Justice was a huge success the first go around and the toy sale were good as well. The only reason it was cancelled was bc the Young Justice toy line was tied to the CGI green lantern toy line that bombed. Green Lantern pretty much young justice bc the toy lines were tied together. I think the source is on the front page bc we we've covered the subject before. But I do share your concern about piracy killing young justice this time around. It just sucks I have to buy DC streaming service to just show support.

Source? I can't immediately find anything.

Really wow, I hope this isn't a mistake then....
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0152839/?ref_=nv_sr_1
This link is to Tera Strong's page on IMDB with her getting credit for the season and certain episodes.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I don't buy it until I hear it from somewhere official. Anyone can add anything to IMDB. I hope it's true though.

[Autbot_Benz]

I don't buy it until I hear it from somewhere official. Anyone can add anything to IMDB. I hope it's true though.

agreed I will wait till Tara Strong says something on twitter

[CyberCubed]

I never understood why the other Titans weren't in Young Justice. Starfire's design from those DC movies would be perfect to use for it, as well as Raven or Cyborg.

I guess they purposely didn't use them aside from Dick and Beast Boy to distance the show from Teen Titans.

[sdp]

I never understood why the other Titans weren't in Young Justice. Starfire's design from those DC movies would be perfect to use for it, as well as Raven or Cyborg.

I guess they purposely didn't use them aside from Dick and Beast Boy to distance the show from Teen Titans.
You said it yourself, they didn't want this to be compared to Teen Titans and be its own thing.

I would've loved more a real Young Justice show tho, that art-style and those characters animated would've been great but it would've resembled too much the Teen Titans Cartoon as well, not that that's a bad thing.

So we now have Young Justice the show which is more similar to Teen Titans the comic and Teen Titans the show which is more similar to Young Justice the comic.

Young Justice was a huge success the first go around and the toy sale were good as well. The only reason it was cancelled was bc the Young Justice toy line was tied to the CGI green lantern toy line that bombed. Green Lantern pretty much young justice bc the toy lines were tied together. I think the source is on the front page bc we we've covered the subject before. But I do share your concern about piracy killing young justice this time around. It just sucks I have to buy DC streaming service to just show support.



The Young Justice toyline bombed big time and it was deserved since it was so lazy and badly done. Green Lantern didn't sink the toyline, it was already dead.

The show just wasn't doing great either, I know plenty of blog posts reported that it was only cancelled because it had a lot of female fans and producers didn't want that. But that's only one interview telling what he thinks happened and no actual proof.

YJ came out at a time that Cartoon Network didn't care about their DC block, gave it deadly hiatuses. The excitement just wasn't there either, it was a great show but at the same time it wasn't a "feel good" show nor compelling enough to make up for the lack of charm. It did great with the tumblr crowd and hardcore dc nerds and animation fans but the average person didn't know about the show.

I'm guessing ratings for the show were fine but nothing amazing and given the situation they just cancelled it.


What a horrible time that was, we had been told DC would get this huge focus on CN and it seemed like a golden age, everything about YJ and the other DC shows seemed so well crafted and planned only to see them bail out on it barely a month after the experiment began.

[CyberCubed]

Young Justice was canceled too early, we should have gotten Season 3 from CN years ago.

But either way I guess it doesn't matter now. Makes me wonder how many seasons of it we'll get from DC now. Season 3 is confirmed to be 26 episodes so that's a full length season, I wonder if it'll go on for any longer. I guess it really depends on how many views it gets, but you know people will also watch it online illegally so WB won't get all that revenue if people watch the show outside their service.

[Coola Yagami]

Young Justice was canceled too early, we should have gotten Season 3 from CN years ago.

But either way I guess it doesn't matter now. Makes me wonder how many seasons of it we'll get from DC now. Season 3 is confirmed to be 26 episodes so that's a full length season, I wonder if it'll go on for any longer. I guess it really depends on how many views it gets, but you know people will also watch it online illegally so WB won't get all that revenue if people watch the show outside their service.

They'd have no one to blame but themselves. They just should have released it on Netflix/Hulu. They're practically shooting themselves in the foot by putting it on some forced exclusive stream site noone's going to want to use.

[dl316bh]

Sometimes I think the cancellation was the best thing to happen to the Young Justice (especially now that it's coming back). I remember when season two was airing, I saw plenty of people annoyed as hell with where it was going and upset it seemed to flounder on only the second season. I'm not sure if everyone thought it could have turned around or what, but after it got canceled it was like everybody forgot and decided on a kumbaya to try and get it back. Kind of washed away the memory of how season two got under peoples skin.

Still amazes me they thought a time skip after the first season was a great plan.

The comics only ever had them because fans of the cartoon shipped them together when they specifically said they only had a friendly relationship.
I feel pretty safe in saying that isn't what happened. People were pegging it as a possibility as early as Beast Boys and Girls, a three issue arc coming out around when season two ended, and the release of a certain two episodes mid season three is when the cartoon fandom started actually turning into a thing. I remember because a couple people I'm close friends with to this day - and me, after I'd started hanging in those circles - were trying to direct people toward the comic when that fandom started gaining steam, because we were fairly confident that was the direction it might have been going. Geoff Johns used to plot long term, after all, and comics are plotted and written months in advance.

Someone could try and say they hastily rewrote things when the ship took off in the cartoon fandom, but looking at the whole of the Pre-IC Teen Titans run with the knowledge they get together, it's easy to see it was always planned. I could swear I remember Geoff Johns saying as much in an interview or two.

And they made the mistake of writing them like a close but bickering pair, and as such it became perceived as a more natural relationship than most of the legimitate 'ships on that show
It didn't help that the legitimate ship everyone knew was happening - Robin and Starfire - was the dullest possible thing you could ask for. Big shock people enjoyed the not confirmed pairing that was interesting with a likable dynamic.

I never understood why the other Titans weren't in Young Justice.
Because they're not Young Justice. None of them have ever been members of that comic team at any point and they're easily recognizable, since the cartoon, as the Titans. It was weird enough having Beast Boy and Miss Martian there (though Miss Martian is probably more associated with that team now because of the cartoon).

So we now have Young Justice the show which is more similar to Teen Titans the comic and Teen Titans the show which is more similar to Young Justice the comic.
I have to admit that always drove me up the wall. The original Teen Titans cartoon was what you'd have expected a Young Justice cartoon to be.

TTG always 'ship teases the two, but I'd like them to have a stab at something more adult.
That will probably happen at some point. Not just because it's a thing in the comics, but the cartoons have really cemented it in the minds of kids and teenagers, then and especially now when it's actually a thing in Go!. It's probably more a matter of when.

What a horrible time that was, we had been told DC would get this huge focus on CN and it seemed like a golden age, everything about YJ and the other DC shows seemed so well crafted and planned only to see them bail out on it barely a month after the experiment began.
Remember DC Nation? CN lost interest in that stupid quick. It's almost amazing to me how much the channel doesn't seem to like carrying superhero stuff or putting any focus on it, when historically superhero cartoons have been their highest rated stuff and they and DC are both owned by the same parent company.

They'd have no one to blame but themselves. They just should have released it on Netflix/Hulu. They're practically shooting themselves in the foot by putting it on some forced exclusive stream site noone's going to want to use.
It could go either way, but they've got a chance. There's so much DC related material at this point it could be attractive at the right price. Especially for parents with kids who like superhero shows. Netflix and Hulu don't have crap for that. Hulu has Teen Titans Go!, but all the other DC cartoons and most of the numerous animated films and shows they've done over the years are MIA on all of them. They've probably got a better shot than some of the other attempts. That said, I'd probably prefer they not do it too, but we're probably going to have a period where everyone and their grandma tries it for a few years, diluting the market, until people get sick of the whole thing and there's a big implosion.

[CyberCubed]

Well also Young Justice isn't a show that needs to go on forever. If it just gets a Season 3 and that's it, I'll be perfectly fine. It's only that Season 2 ended on a big cliffhanger, plus Wally's "death" that people wanted a continuation.

If Season 3 wraps up the show well, although it probably won't because Greg Weisman always purposely leaves plot threads open even when he knows he shouldn't, then I'll be fine if that's all we get.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I thought season 2's ending was totally fine. Establishing that Darkseid is a character isn't a cliffhanger.

[sdp]

People also forget that season 2 of Young Justice almost didnt happen and was originally only going to be a mini series of a few episodes, (6 or 10) they changed their mind and gave it a few more episodes and called it a season but it still didnt get the 26 episode season that was now standard and only got 20.

I thought season 2's ending was totally fine. Establishing that Darkseid is a character isn't a cliffhanger.

Darkseid had been hinted since season 1, its definitely a cliffhanger or unresolved plot that was heavily hinted for two seasons if you prefer.

Well also Young Justice isn't a show that needs to go on forever. If it just gets a Season 3 and that's it, I'll be perfectly fine. It's only that Season 2 ended on a big cliffhanger, plus Wally's "death" that people wanted a continuation.

If Season 3 wraps up the show well, although it probably won't because Greg Weisman always purposely leaves plot threads open even when he knows he shouldn't, then I'll be fine if that's all we get.

You know Weisman, he loves having cliffhangers and unresolved plots to his shows because he plans 5 seasons ahead of where he is at. I mean thats cool but at the same time he has enver been able to actually finish any of his shows.

Im a fan of superhero shows not needing to have an actual ending as the héroes will always protect their world but not leaving huge cliffhangers is important.
I remember when season two was airing, I saw plenty of people annoyed as hell with where it was going and upset it seemed to flounder on only the second season.
I loved the time jump and didnt mind it, sure the show introduced many characters but it did that in season 1 too, it was always a show that wanted to show you the rest of the DCU and not dwell on only a few.


I feel pretty safe in saying that isn't what happened. People were pegging it as a possibility as early as Beast Boys and Girls, a three issue arc coming out around when season two ended, and the release of a certain two episodes mid season three is when the cartoon fandom started actually turning into a thing. I remember because a couple people I'm close friends with to this day - and me, after I'd started hanging in those circles - were trying to direct people toward the comic when that fandom started gaining steam, because we were fairly confident that was the direction it might have been going. Geoff Johns used to plot long term, after all, and comics are plotted and written months in advance.
Its been a while so I dont remember the details but at the time I was really into the Teen Titans fandom and I still believe youre wrong, the BB/Raven relationship was there very early on even before Terra and the comic followed.

In fact the comic took a lot of elements from the show that comic purists hated.




Remember DC Nation? CN lost interest in that stupid quick. It's almost amazing to me how much the channel doesn't seem to like carrying superhero stuff or putting any focus on it, when historically superhero cartoons have been their highest rated stuff and they and DC are both owned by the same parent company.

Yes, that was my point, I remember exactly the PR and how they were finally comitted to give DC the spotlight it deserved and it was going to be this huge block and whatnot, something happened between the announcement and when it finally came out that CN just wasnt interested anymore. I wasnt following it but Im sure there was some shuffling in the people in charge.

The only reason DC Nation was even a thing anymore was because they already had all this stuff done by the previous decisions but they showed no desire to actually go through with the other stuff they had promised and hadnt already done.

Granted there were other factors crappy toys and the GL movie failing just didnt help. but CN and WB couldve done so much more to make that block successful.

[dl316bh]

Its been a while so I dont remember the details but at the time I was really into the Teen Titans fandom and I still believe youre wrong, the BB/Raven relationship was there very early on even before Terra and the comic followed.
There were people who liked it even early on, but the only episode that anyone really pointed to before Spellbound and Beast Within was Nevermore. Those were the ones where people really started coming in. But there were people who went off how much they enjoyed the two interacting prior to that, yes, but it wasn't super big, as I recall. Season one and two there were about as many people who actually shipped her with Cyborg for some reason - probably pair the spares during season two, since Rob/Star was clearly going to be a thing and Terra was there - and that didn't start to fade until Beast Boy and Raven kind of became the beta ship mid season three and Jinx became the big ship for Cyborg at the start of season three until Kid Flash came into the picture in season five.

In fact the comic took a lot of elements from the show that comic purists hated.
They started trying that post-Infinite Crisis and after the show died, yeah, but none of it really stuck. They tried to stuff Beast Boy in his cartoon get-up during OYL, but it look atrocious outside the cartoon style (and honestly, I never thought it looked great there either) and was dropped by the time he was actually in a monthly comic again... for the red and the white that never looked too good either, so, not a super improvement. I remember more fear on the part of comic purists, that they were afraid DC was going to do more of that. Dumbing Starfire down to resemble the speech patterns or naiveté of the cartoon version is something I clearly remember people worrying about, to the point of jumping at shadows; there was a part in 52 during her plot where she was hanging with Animal Man and another companion in space where she ate some tainted fruit or something and a friend worried that was going to be the "narrative excuse".

It was mostly overblown, though understandable at the time, as it's not uncommon for comics to absorb things from a popular cartoon to try and draw some of the fans in, but looking back, Teen Titans didn't take much.

I loved the time jump and didnt mind it, sure the show introduced many characters but it did that in season 1 too, it was always a show that wanted to show you the rest of the DCU and not dwell on only a few.
Oh, I'm sure there were people who did like it well enough, including yourself. I didn't mean to imply everyone hated it. But it was a common complaint I saw of season two that had people grumbling pretty hard, but was forgotten when the show was canned, is all I'm saying. Like, the cancellation kind of did it a favor in that it papered over the things people were upset about.

Yes, that was my point, I remember exactly the PR and how they were finally comitted to give DC the spotlight it deserved and it was going to be this huge block and whatnot, something happened between the announcement and when it finally came out that CN just wasnt interested anymore. I wasnt following it but Im sure there was some shuffling in the people in charge.
Cartoon Network's had a lot of weird executive shuffling and decisions behind the scenes that really made no sense. I remember that, around when Teen Titans and JLU were canceled, it was announced they were just going to be called CN now and they were branching out of cartoons, trying to pull a SyFy. It failed horribly, no one watched their crappy live action stuff and they had a period where they had to recover. But yeah, odd decisions and changing their mind just seems par for the course for them now. To me, at least. If nothing else, it suggested to me that they had something against superhero cartoons for some weird reason.

I mean, there were three or four superhero cartoons on or coming around the time of the DC Nation block. They stopped showing new episodes of some of them halfway through before dumping them later and canceled three of the four. I've always been convinced that the only reason Teen Titans Go! survived that culling is because it had high ratings (and maybe good merch sales, I don't know how that show does in the toy market).

[M.O.D.O.K.]

I've always been convinced that the only reason Teen Titans Go! survived that culling is because it had high ratings (and maybe good merch sales, I don't know how that show does in the toy market).

Teen Titans Go! always got special treatment, though. It actually aired on primetime, had PLENTY of commercials and ads before it started, and plenty of reruns to keep interest and exposure. The other shows were just shoved on Saturday Mornings, no advertisement, and in Beware the Batman's case, wasn't even allowed to finish on CN proper.

[NinjaPug]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DP_128jV4AAWVEi?format=jpg

[CyberCubed]

Looks good.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Wow, I like the look of that!

[Raph's Girl]

Loving the look of the costume. So he's still Robin at the start. Probably will become Nightwing in the season finale.

[Autbot_Benz]

Man that Robin Costume is gorgeous

[CyberCubed]

Loving the look of the costume. So he's still Robin at the start. Probably will become Nightwing in the season finale.

Isn't Nightwing in the show from the start? I thought that was Tim Drake. Unless it's just Dick and we see him become Nightwing?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand I'm impressed. Nicely done! :tcool:

[NinjaPug]

Isn't Nightwing in the show from the start? I thought that was Tim Drake. Unless it's just Dick and we see him become Nightwing?

The picture is Dick according to the press release.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

THAT'S Robin, Christopher Nolan. Not a freaking' cop in uniform. :tlol:

[PApagreg]

The picture is Dick according to the press release.

Dick using a bo staff triggers me so much.

Ot: Robin looks great here, not only is it the best live action adaption of his costume but its probably one of the best live action dc costume.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Dick using a bo staff triggers me so much.

Ot: Robin looks great here, not only is it the best live action adaption of his costume but its probably one of the best live action dc costume.

Now that you mention it, yeah... should be escrima instead.

Thinking about it, I love how each Robin had a different weapon associated with them.

Dick, escrima (although it didn't happen until Nightwing)
Jason, crowbar (too bad it was used against him, not by him...)
Tim, bo staff
Damian, sword

[PApagreg]

Now that you mention it, yeah... should be escrima instead.

Thinking about it, I love how each Robin had a different weapon associated with them.

Dick, escrima (although it didn't happen until Nightwing)
Jason, crowbar (too bad it was used against him, not by him...)
Tim, bo staff
Damian, sword
I would say Jason's weapon would be guns, also they each have something they excel at.
Dick-People skills and Acrobatics
Jason-Gunslinging/Intimidation
Tim- Leadership and Detective skills
Damian- Martial Arts and Stealth

[TigerClaw]

Here's your first look at Hawk and Dove from the Titans live action series.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/titans/titans-reveals-first-look-at-alan-ritchson-and-minka-kelly-as-hawk-dove-a156373

https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fewedit.files.wordpress.com %2F2017%2F12%2Ftit_suitshoot3_dove_hawk_0574b122.j pg

Hawk is played by Alan Ritchson, he was Raph in the recent TMNT movies.

[sdp]

The costumes are awesome I have hopes, I wonder if the show will actually be cool.

This DC streaming service seems doomed to fail though, doesn't WB realize they need a WB streaming service? DC alone cannot do it. They can't compete with Disney with only DC.

[dl316bh]

Dick using a bo staff triggers me so much.
It's because of the original Teen Titans animated series. That version of Dick used a bo staff and it's kind of carried a bit since.

This DC streaming service seems doomed to fail though, doesn't WB realize they need a WB streaming service?
I imagine it's only DC to start. WB's got too much material not to turn it into a general Warner Brothers service. A fair bit of it's wrapped up in other services - Hulu has a majority of their Cartoon Network products right now - but those deals expire at some point.

[Redeemer]

It's because of the original Teen Titans animated series. That version of Dick used a bo staff and it's kind of carried a bit since.


I imagine it's only DC to start. WB's got too much material not to turn it into a general Warner Brothers service. A fair bit of it's wrapped up in other services - Hulu has a majority of their Cartoon Network products right now - but those deals expire at some point.

I thought some of WB stuff was on there two? I thought the boomerang stuff was going to be on the streaming service as well

[dl316bh]

I thought some of WB stuff was on there two? I thought the boomerang stuff was going to be on the streaming service as well
They haven't really talked about it much, so it's hard to say, but it was announced around DC, so we all expect it to be dedicated to that at the outset. But I expect it to branch out.

[ZariusTwo]

The Doom Patrol will be in episode five, written by Geoff Johns

https://twitter.com/geoffjohns/status/962058662100353025/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsarama.com%2F38582-doom-patrol-join-dc-s-live-action-titans.html

[Raph's Girl]

April Bowlby has been cast as Rita Farr/Elasti Girl
Bruno Bichir has been cast as Dr. Niles Caulder, a.k.a. The Chief.

Both will first appear in episode 5 (which is titled Doom Patrol) with a potential for recurring role status!

http://ew.com/tv/2018/02/20/titans-casts-drop-dead-diva-star-as-elasti-girl/

[CyberCubed]

Any update on Young Justice Season 3? We haven't heard anything in awhile.

[Raph's Girl]

Any update on Young Justice Season 3? We haven't heard anything in awhile.

All that's known is that it'll premier later this year. There'll probably be some footage at comic con

[Redeemer]

Any update on Young Justice Season 3? We haven't heard anything in awhile.

If you look on the Young Justice Reddit one of the animators/workers said they Editing/finishing up storyboards.
and this
https://www.reddit.com/r/youngjustice/comments/6ok05n/ryoungjustice_sdcc_2017_mega_thread/?st=jdz0r8fe&sh=79ad2bc6

[CyberCubed]

I'm surprised they want a Season 4 or 5, I think we'll be lucky just to get a Season 3.

[Redeemer]

I'm surprised they want a Season 4 or 5, I think we'll be lucky just to get a Season 3.

I think they are more confident this time around bc of how well Young Justice did on Netflix. They are giving them a 26 episode season right off the bat, unlike season 2 which was originally slated for only 12 eps or so. They are also making Young Justice a prime asset/build block for WB new streaming service. I bet they will get at least 2 a couple seasons.

[CyberCubed]

Season 2 had 20 episodes.

I don't know, I'm not sure the viewership will be all that high. I'm not sure what netflix counts for views, but I don't think this will be an ongoing thing. I'm just happy to get one season more to wrap up the show.

[Redeemer]

So apparently the finished the voice work of all 26 eps of season 3!!
https://www.reddit.com/r/youngjustice/comments/82xrpy/theyve_recorded_all_26_episodes_for_s3/?st=jej40cvw&sh=7fdbb38f

Cannot wait to see this!

[CyberCubed]

Looks like it should be releasing soon.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Kris Carter, Lolita Ritmanis, and Michael McCuistion mention that they're returning to the show as its composers (about 8 minutes in).

_CpOYedRHRM

[sdp]

Raven looks awful and she's somehow not the worst.

Beast Boy is white with green hair and Starfire is black with orange hair. And looks like cheap hair dye. :lol:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Raven looks awful and she's somehow not the worst.

Beast Boy is white with green hair and Starfire is black with orange hair. And looks like cheap hair dye. :lol:

Source, please?

EDITED: http://comicbook.com/dc/2018/04/11/titans-first-look-live-action-beast-boy-raven/

Eeesh. He's right. Raven looks like cheap cosplay, nowhere near as good as the Robin costume. And Starfire's wig looks pretty bad. And Beast Boy... I dunno, I don't care about this character, but just green hair makes him look like a Joker fanboy. He needs to be full green.

[CyberCubed]

Man, Starfire looks like a prostitute/hooker in that get-up. And not in the comic book outfit way, but in a "real" way.

Also is she actually going to be black or are they going to color her skin orange? I'd assume they would have done the same as with Saldana in Guardians of the Galaxy where they colored her skin green?

[Redeemer]

This show is going to bomb so bad! A white beast boy????? really????? I am speechless about star fire ........ Raven Its hard to say bc she is wearing a coat, but I doubt she will be any better than the other 2.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I don't think it'll BOMB. That's still the best Robin we've ever seen in live action. If DC Titans just quadruples down on Batman references and characters, it'll succeed.

Hell, look at Gotham. :trolleye:

[CyberCubed]

Is there a difference between a streaming service and regular TV? Does number of views count differently for an online only show?

I'm not that familiar with the subject, are online streaming only shows like netflix shows renewed based on viewers or just advertising count?

[raph27]

Wow those look terrible. I mean they might grow on me if the show itself is good, but for now...yikes.

[Andrew NDB]

Holy god those look terrible. That looks super cheap.

[Ninjinister]

Raven looks awful and she's somehow not the worst.

Beast Boy is white with green hair and Starfire is black with orange hair. And looks like cheap hair dye. :lol:

Could they be CGing Gar and Cori's skin?

Also Ryan Potter is half Japanese and he looks it so I don't know how he's considered "white".

[Redeemer]

Is there a difference between a streaming service and regular TV? Does number of views count differently for an online only show?

I'm not that familiar with the subject, are online streaming only shows like netflix shows renewed based on viewers or just advertising count?

I am curious about this to. The only thing I can image is maybe a bigger cut from ad revenue, but that just a guess.

Could they be CGing Gar and Cori's skin?

Also Ryan Potter is half Japanese and he looks it so I don't know how he's considered "white".

Thats a really good point I was wondering that as well. Hopefully that is the case, bc as of now it looks awful.

[TurtleTitan97]

Source, please?

EDITED: http://comicbook.com/dc/2018/04/11/titans-first-look-live-action-beast-boy-raven/

Eeesh. He's right. Raven looks like cheap cosplay, nowhere near as good as the Robin costume. And Starfire's wig looks pretty bad. And Beast Boy... I dunno, I don't care about this character, but just green hair makes him look like a Joker fanboy. He needs to be full green.

Geez, these make some of the Arrowverse costumes look movie quality in comparison.

I'll still wait for a first trailer, because Robin, Hawk, and Dove's costumes look great, but this has certainly dimmed my excitement for this series.

[Andrew NDB]

Geez, these make some of the Arrowverse costumes look movie quality in comparison.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Even early Arrow.

[sdp]

Oh man, I think I'm just going to bail out on all DC shows, there's too many of them and too many episodes. I have not time for that, and I like them despite their mixed quality.


Could they be CGing Gar and Cori's skin?

Also Ryan Potter is half Japanese and he looks it so I don't know how he's considered "white".

I don't think they'll be CGing the colors, it seems like it would be too expensive. I also think Starfire is black to meet the minority quota on the show.


https://scontent.fmex7-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30689243_1773918445961799_6763165643870044160_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=7a34ce68507ebe41cb938f367d9590c4&oe=5B61FF8D

:lol:

[Autbot_Benz]

Swamp Thing is getting his own show on the streaming site

https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2018/05/02/james-wan-brings-swamp-thing-to-new-dc-universe-digital-experience?adid=dchero2_Swamp-Thing-Lands-on-DC-Universe

[ZariusTwo]

Also the streaming service will go by the name "DC Universe"

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I really wish they'd shown a trailer for these. Logos look fine, but... they need some serious damage control for the Starfire and Beast Boy costumes. :tlol:

[CyberCubed]

Only interested in Young Justice Season 3. All the live action shows can go to hell!

[Andrew NDB]

I really wish they'd shown a trailer for these. Logos look fine, but...

Why? It worked out so well when WB announced their whole DCEU lineup for the next 10 years with logos two or three years ago.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Why? It worked out so well when WB announced their whole DCEU lineup for the next 10 years with logos two or three years ago.

:tlol: True that!

[TurtleTitan97]

https://i.imgur.com/wL9DCU4.jpg

[CyberCubed]

I recognize Katana and Metamorpho, who are the other 3 characters there?

[TurtleTitan97]

The Doom Patrol is getting their own show: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/doom-patrol-live-action-series-greg-berlanti-set-at-dc-digital-service-1111715

[TurtleTitan97]

https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5b34e90279aa631d008b45dd-960-540.jpg

https://fsmedia.imgix.net/10/fc/c6/e3/013f/4601/a11c/945c870130a8/thwaites-in-full-robin-gear-for-titans.jpeg?auto=format%2Ccompress&w=700

https://fsmedia.imgix.net/a8/01/1c/21/723b/4c31/a3c3/8efdea4a8c21/thwaites-in-full-robin-gear.jpeg?auto=format%2Ccompress&w=700

[Autbot_Benz]

Guess What Collectors you want awesome figures of the Justice League from the Bruce Timm Cartoon. Well you gotta sign up for Dc Universe as they are exclusive figures :x

https://news.toyark.com/2018/06/28/dc-collectibles-justice-league-figures-dc-universe-exclusives-304138

https://i.imgur.com/yZKWhju.jpg

[Leofan26]

Is that one poster for season three of Young Justice? The one with Nightwing mixed in the group? Please tell me he's going to play a big part than, I was so disappointed to learn about season threes spoilers regarding some of the older cast members :(

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Every picture they release of Robin reinforces that, yes, this streaming service WILL be taking my money.

[Splinter the boss]

The posters look good. Here's hoping that Titans will actually be good.

[Splinter the boss]

I was watching a YT video today and the guy mentioned that Young Justice was confirmed beyond more than three seasons. Anyone caught wind of this?

[MikeandRaph87]

Guess What Collectors you want awesome figures of the Justice League from the Bruce Timm Cartoon. Well you gotta sign up for Dc Universe as they are exclusive figures :x

https://news.toyark.com/2018/06/28/dc-collectibles-justice-league-figures-dc-universe-exclusives-304138

https://i.imgur.com/yZKWhju.jpg

Its nice to see Aquaman take his proper place with animated Justice League.

Did anyone notice that the cover box art of the season one reissue of Justice League was titled Justice League of America instead?

Could we see anything with the Justice League cartoon with this new stream? No Aqua embargo making for an akward Manta Ray encounter and no Bat embargo allowing more than Joker, Deadshot, and Firefly to appear. Blockbuster and KG Beast don't count.

[ZariusTwo]

Trailer for Titans

-PPofXaJ4go

What's that odious stench?

Smells like Edge

[TurtleTitan97]

Still not sold on Starfire's look. But I'll give at least the first episode a shot.

[plastroncafe]

Welp, I hope everyone who hated on Teen Titans Go for not being serious and brooding enough are happy.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Trailer for Titans

-PPofXaJ4go

What's that odious stench?

Smells like Edge

Wow.

"Fvck Batman?" You sure you're not Jason Todd under the red and greens? :tlol:

[Spike Spiegel]

Trailer for Titans

-PPofXaJ4go



Wow, this looks like one of those trailers for a student fan film that never got made. :tlol:

At first glance, it reminds me of that short lived Birds of Prey show that was on the WB in the early 2000s.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Based only on this single trailer, it looks like they're getting the character of Dick Grayson drastically wrong.

[Andrew NDB]

I can't listen to it now, but it LOOKS OK to me... it's a real "interesting choice." Definitely they want Dick Grayson to be like Jason Todd.

And man oh man does Starfire look terrible.

[ZariusTwo]

Wow, this looks like one of those trailers for a student fan film that never got made. :tlol:

XiZuvJ48MZ0

[sdp]

I'm definitely interested, will this be in the Arrowverse?

Even black starfire and white beastboy and purple dye raven impressed me. They seem like early 00's "We have to change them to make them appealing to the mainstream" comic mentality when we're living in post-MCU world but it's fine.

I'm not sure if it's going to be good or bad but at least I'm interested in checking it out.

[neatoman]

Trailer for Titans

-PPofXaJ4go

What's that odious stench?

Smells like Edge

Watch these two trailers back to back... Hard to believe they technically have the same source material, isn't it? And coming out the same year as well....

r9WhJyyTtqo

[CyberCubed]

So is Starfire really black? I mean they're not even going to digitally color her skin orange or anything?

[TurtleTitan97]

So is Starfire really black? I mean they're not even going to digitally color her skin orange or anything?

Her skin is apparently only going to turn orange whenever she powers up, so yeah.

I've seen cosplay that looks more professional than this.

[Autbot_Benz]

Her skin is apparently only going to turn orange whenever she powers up, so yeah.

I've seen cosplay that looks more professional than this.

That face you make when CW Aliens( Ie Jon Jones aka Martian Manhunter) look better than Streaming Service StarFire :lol:

[Candy Kappa]

Oh man,that trailer was all kinds of cringey darkbad broodery to the point of being hilarious. I'm all winded out from laughing through the whole thing.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm definitely interested, will this be in the Arrowverse?

That'd be kind of cool if it was, but the odds are probably against that. Though it could be one of the other Earths, like Supergirl's exclusive SJW Earth.

[Krutch]

I was mildly optimistic about Titans but that trailer kind of deflates any remaining interest I have in this. I don't know who the idiot is in charge of DC that keeps barking "Grittier! GRITTIERRRR!" is but they need a firm throat punch ASAP.

[Vegita-San]

do any of these streaming service shows ever come to dvd/blu ray on a decent schedule? I refuse to pay for another one just to see clone wars.

sigh.

was so hoping for it to be on netflix.

[drgon78]

That was so bad I don't know if I should laugh or cry.

[Redeemer]

Any hope I had for this series just went down the drain.....
That star fire looks horrible, its laughable :lol:
Robin and Raven seem very off, nothing remotely like established incarnations.

[Jester]

So DC saw Daredevil's hallway fight and said, "A whole series of that...with the Titans."

'K.

A coworker and I thought making Grayson kill (at least it's implied those guys be way dead) is WORSE than Bats killing because the Boy Wonder is the light for Bruce to keep him from going there. But then again Eff Batman, right.

[Candy Kappa]

I think Starfire would have looked more interesting if they gave her more and bigger hair.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

A coworker and I thought making Grayson kill (at least it's implied those guys be way dead) is WORSE than Bats killing because the Boy Wonder is the light for Bruce to keep him from going there. But then again Eff Batman, right.

Exactly. That right there. It seems so obvious, and yet DC went with... this? Why?

[ZariusTwo]

Damage Control from Geoff: "It's not all like that. Honest"

https://www.polygon.com/2018/7/19/17593782/titans-****-batman-trailer-geoff-johns

[plastroncafe]

I'm willing to give the show the benefit of the doubt when it comes to having a bad First Trailer. Heck, I'm even more than willing to give it some space for the first few episodes. Most shows need a couple to find their voice.

However, BOY this first trailer sure does tell us a lot about what they think you DC Fanboys really want, don't it?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm willing to give the show the benefit of the doubt when it comes to having a bad First Trailer. Heck, I'm even more than willing to give it some space for the first few episodes. Most shows need a couple to find their voice.

However, BOY this first trailer sure does tell us a lot about what they think you DC Fanboys really want, don't it?

A first trailer is supposed to entice and appeal, not alienate and piss off.

Even if (and it's a big f'ing if) the show actually isn't like this, why would you run the risk of letting Dick "Holy Head Trauma, Batman, Jason Todd was Right After All!" Grayson run off your built-in fanbase!? :teek: :tgrumble:

[plastroncafe]

I can think of two reasons right off the bat:

1) Marketing people are bad at their jobs, in that they can't read the room.

2) The Fanbros who make the most noise are the only ones being heard, and this is legit what they think the vast majority of the fanbase is fond of.

I mean, given the amount of hate Marvel gets for making movies with optimistic heart, I can easily see someone being like:
WE NEED MORE DARK!

As a group, we fanboys don't tend to focus on how much we love a thing nearly as much as how much we don't love a thing.
And I think what we're seeing here is the effect to that cause. Welcome to the positive feedback loop, population: us.

[Vegita-San]

Exactly. That right there. It seems so obvious, and yet DC went with... this? Why?

gotta stand apart from marvel. cause the DARK AND GRITTY has worked SO well for them in the past. why not stick with it? :trolleye:

[Andrew NDB]

Does it really look that dark and gritty? It doesn't look wholly dissimilar from Arrow... with F bombs.

[sdp]

The service is 8 dollars a month or 75 a year, who is actually going to subscribe?

I guess comic nerds since it includes comics but they will annoyingly rotate content in and out which I'm guessing will be the same for their shows. I could see myself subscribing one month, binge watching a bunch of DC shows and read comics and cancel until there's enough content for me to binge watch. Unlike Netflix which I know will have different movies that I may want to watch and it's easier just to keep subbed to it.

[CyberCubed]

I won't pay for any online service. I'll just wait for the eps to be available elsewhere, I'm only interested in Young Justice Season 3 anyway.

[sdp]

Yeah, upon more research the show won't be in the Arrowverse, DC announced their "Worlds of DC" multiverse name replacing the DCEU that basically means no continuity and any show/movie can be its own timeline. Damn, how can they be so incompetent?

Arrowverse is also the closest thing they have to the MCU, it's well established, successful and liked despite its variation in quality. If Justice League had had TV show Flash maybe more people would've been excited, I mean his movie is now in development hell and might never come out while the tv show keeps getting renewed.

[Shark_Blade]

So is Starfire really black? I mean they're not even going to digitally color her skin orange or anything?

I think Starfire would have looked more interesting if they gave her more and bigger hair.

I see people calling her Oprah Starfire. :tlol:

This looks bad but I’m willing to give it a whirl. Can’t be as bad as Teen Titans Go...right?

[ZariusTwo]

Jovian Wade cast as Cyborg for Doom Patrol

https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2018/08/09/breaking-news-cyborg-powers-up-dc-universes-doom-patrol

[Raph's Girl]

Jovian Wade cast as Cyborg for Doom Patrol

https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2018/08/09/breaking-news-cyborg-powers-up-dc-universes-doom-patrol

The only thing I've seen Joivan in is Doctor Who. He was a graffiti artist friend of Clara.

[TurtleTitan97]

Brendan Fraser has been casted as Robotman for Doom Patrol: https://deadline.com/2018/08/doom-patrol-brendan-fraser-cast-robotman-cliff-steele-dc-universe-series-1202449702/

[ZariusTwo]

Brendan Fraser has been casted as Robotman for Doom Patrol: https://deadline.com/2018/08/doom-patrol-brendan-fraser-cast-robotman-cliff-steele-dc-universe-series-1202449702/

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[TurtleTitan97]

First set photos from Doom Patrol: http://www.justjared.com/2018/08/31/doom-patrol-set-photos-surface-featuring-diane-guerrero-april-bowlby-in-costume/

[ZariusTwo]

Jason and Dick

https://i-cdn.embed.ly/1/display?key=fd92ebbc52fc43fb98f69e50e7893c13&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Foyxdt7vz41m11.jpg

https://i-cdn.embed.ly/1/display?key=fd92ebbc52fc43fb98f69e50e7893c13&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fwslrrnjk51m11.jpg

Hawk and Dove

https://i-cdn.embed.ly/1/display?key=fd92ebbc52fc43fb98f69e50e7893c13&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F72wsjx8xful11.jpg

https://i-cdn.embed.ly/1/display?key=fd92ebbc52fc43fb98f69e50e7893c13&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fzx2iysuqaul11.jpg

Robotman in Doom Patrol

https://i-cdn.embed.ly/1/display?key=fd92ebbc52fc43fb98f69e50e7893c13&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F07ua8vbem0m11.jpg

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'd be excited for seeing Jason and Dick both on screen at the same time, but man...

Fvck Batman, right? :trolleye:

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/29O2ROI.jpg

New Shot of Hooker Starfire Hot Topic Kid Raven Asian Beast Boy and Robin

[raph27]

Holy sh*t. This is going to be a dumpster fire, isn't it?

[oldmanwinters]

So the show isn't afraid to make Starfire, Raven, and Beasty as wild and colorful as live action can take but they need to keep Robin looking like a Snapchat filter?

I'm cool for casting a black actress as Starfire, but I really think she should be perpetually orange in every shot.

[Redeemer]

So the show isn't afraid to make Starfire, Raven, and Beasty as wild and colorful as live action can take but they need to keep Robin looking like a Snapchat filter?

I'm cool for casting a black actress as Starfire, but I really think she should be perpetually orange in every shot.

I couldn't agree more!!!! Give her Orange body paint and stop making her look like a freaking hooker!!!!!!!! Also give Beast boy Green body paint other wise he looks like Jake Long from American Dragon........

crap this show is going to bomb....... :roll:

[oldmanwinters]

I couldn't agree more!!!! Give her Orange body paint and stop making her look like a freaking hooker!!!!!!!! Also give Beast boy Green body paint other wise he looks like Jake Long from American Dragon........

crap this show is going to bomb....... :roll:

I was actually thinking a fully digital skin. I mean... it worked for Robin's faux-movie in Teen Titans Go! to the Movies. :lol:

[ZariusTwo]

There's apparently now a Batgirl series in development for the service

http://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/batgirl-tv-series-coming-dc-universe-streaming-service/

[TigerClaw]

There's apparently now a Batgirl series in development for the service

http://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/batgirl-tv-series-coming-dc-universe-streaming-service/
Interesting. Now we have Batwoman coming to the CW for the Arrowverse. and now Batgirl for the DCU Service. They are two different people anyways.

I never really watch any of those shows. But it sucks that both are separate universes.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

There's apparently now a Batgirl series in development for the service

http://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/batgirl-tv-series-coming-dc-universe-streaming-service/

Oh boy, can't wait for Cassandra Cain or Stephanie Brown to grittily growl "Fvck Oracle!"

[AquaParade]

I have a PS4 and a 2017 Sony model "smart" television, yet I'm not sure there's a way for me to watch this on my tv. If anyone knows otherwise, please let me know, because I'm dying to see Doom Patrol, Swamp Thing, and check out Batman: TAS re-mastered.
I'll happily subscribe this weekend if I can find a way to watch this on my tv with little hassle.

Btw, anyone have opinions on the re-master of Batman: TAS? the preview clips they put out looked great, but I'd like to hear more about it.

[ZariusTwo]

New clip at 2:19

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"He lets you drive the Batmobile?"

[Autbot_Benz]

Starfire
https://www.newsweek.com/titans-teaser-starfire-powers-origin-dc-universe-exclusive-114223

Beast Boy Transforms
https://ew.com/tv/2018/09/27/titans-...oy-transforms/

Robin
http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/09/...in-left-batman

[Autbot_Benz]

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much better trailer this looks better

[Cure]

Wait, so it's on Netflix, too?

[Autbot_Benz]

Wait, so it's on Netflix, too?

Just Netflix UK since I think the DC Streaming Service is USA only

[ZariusTwo]

That was better...at least they're teasing BB/Raven, but then Teen Titans Go! does that too...hopefully that means the comics put them together again.

[CyberCubed]

Robin is the only one who looks decent to me, the actors and costumes for Starfire, Beast Boy and Raven all look awful. A shame really.

[MikeandRaph87]

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/dc-universe-streaming-app-analysis-downloads-revenue-sensortower-2018-9-1027575983

Why is Jason Todd Robin before Dick gives it up? It may be this version's way of forcing him out of the Robin costume,but it does not make sense. Heck, I would rather the Robin identity grow with Dick Grayson.

[MikeandRaph87]

That was better...at least they're teasing BB/Raven, but then Teen Titans Go! does that too...hopefully that means the comics put them together again.

Beast Boy and Raven were a couple?

I figured Beast Boy would pine for Terra.

Raven and Wally flirted, but Wally had more of a thing for Raven before he struck a romance with Frances Kane pre-Magenta. Wally's romances were plot devices. Raven for anchoring him to the second Titans group just as Frances was to help him give up the Kid Flash identity a few year later. Starfire's romance with Dick Grayson was much in the same vain. Its purpose was to help pul him away from Gotham.

[Leo656]

Why is Jason Todd Robin before Dick gives it up? It may be this version's way of forcing him out of the Robin costume,but it does not make sense. Heck, I would rather the Robin identity grow with Dick Grayson.

It's canon. Dick still operated on his own as Robin with the Titans for a time while Bruce trained Jason as the new Robin. Seeing that he'd been replaced gave Dick a big push towards finding his own identity as Nightwing.

Obviously all of their origins have been retconned a hundred times over since then, but historically, there was a very brief period of time when both Dick and Jason were active as Robin, and Dick wasn't happy about it.

[MikeandRaph87]

It's canon. Dick still operated on his own as Robin with the Titans for a time while Bruce trained Jason as the new Robin. Seeing that he'd been replaced gave Dick a big push towards finding his own identity as Nightwing.

Obviously all of their origins have been retconned a hundred times over since then, but historically, there was a very brief period of time when both Dick and Jason were active as Robin, and Dick wasn't happy about it.

Jason Todd's introduction arc was in the Spring of 1983 in Batman#357-359 and Detective Comics#524-#526. The year 1983 finished with Dick and Wally giving up their costumed identities in New Teen Titans#39. Dick Grayson sat out just one story-line which he was brainwashed by Brother Blood in NTT#40-42 between identities. So about seven months elapsed before Jason after a second appearance in his circus costume in Batman#366 before Dick gave Jason the Robin costume in #368. They never appeared together as Robin despite Jason's first costumed appearance in Detective Comics#526 while Dick was still active as Robin as Jason was unnamed in his circus outfit. Dick Girodano said to me at a comic con that his idea was for Jason to take the name Nightwing while Robin grew with Dick Grayson,but Marv Wolfman had all the say since he had the sales and nixed it. I like Girodano's idea better and he also suggested the aging process be permanently halted so Dick would not catch up to Bruce or make it odder for Bruce to adopt Dick, but it is not the way it ultimately would play out.

[Leo656]

At some brief point, they were both Robin. It may have been a retcon but it's canon somewhere.

[MikeandRaph87]

At some brief point, they were both Robin. It may have been a retcon but it's canon somewhere.

I was just going by the way it originally played out opposed to the retcons beginning on Batman#408 when it was depicted as Dick getting shot in the shoulder by Joker forcing him out of the Robin identity by Batman's order only for Bamtan to allow an untrained hothead to take on the identity who ironically would be killed by Joker, which Batman was trying to avoid with Dick Grayson. Yes, there have been a couple more versions like Nightwing Secret Files & Origins (2000) and Nightwing : Year One (2005). There was not angst or feuding between Bruce and Dick in 1983,but Batman struggled to see Dick as his own man and a leader as shown in Batman and the Outsider#5/New Teen Titans#37 when Dick naturally took battlefield command of both teams and did so magnificently which irked Batman. Bruce simply had trouble seeing Dick as capable of doing things his own way and doing fine. Bruce was livid when Dick dropped out of college in Batman#332 (also written by Wolfman) to start this viewpoint.

[ZariusTwo]

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[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

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I was ALREADY done. :tlol:

[MikeandRaph87]

That makes three of us. Daredevil season 3 drops a week later. Atleast we get that to look forward to instead of worrying about what is sure to be a mess in Titans.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

That makes three of us. Daredevil season 3 drops a week later. Atleast we get that to look forward to instead of worrying about what is sure to be a mess in Titans.

Every time WB/DC does something I don't like with their movies or TV shows, I go buy another TPB.

I've bought a LOT of TPBs recently. :tlol:

[Autbot_Benz]

Every time WB/DC does something I don't like with their movies or TV shows, I go buy another TPB.

I've bought a LOT of TPBs recently. :tlol:

Just watch the DC Animated movies for some reason those are the only things they don't **** up

[Leo656]

Why do people keep saying that? They've had a TON of flat-out awful DC animated films over the last few years and only a few of them were even decent. A small few were really good, but... people need to stop with the "DC is King of Animation" stuff. It's a lie, at this point, only even half-true because Marvel never cared enough about that stuff to even try.

If you take all the DC animated films into account, it's about 60/40 Crap-To-Good, at best. Maybe 50/50 if you're generous, or too blinded by voice actors from your childhood to admit that Killing Joke was lousy.

And I still need someone to explain to me why Batman killing people is such a huge deal. He killed people in the early comics on purpose, he's killed a TON of bad guys "accidentally-but-not-too-upset-about-it" in the comics across all the decades since, he blatantly killed a bunch of people in the Keaton films, and despite all the prattle about his "code" in the Nolan movies, he absolutely killed a LOT of people, they just didn't show any bodies.

So this thing where people whine about Batman being a "murderer" is weird. I'm guessing it's because their idea of Batman comes from kids' cartoons. in the comics, the rule is basically, "He's not TRYING to kill anyone, but sometimes sh*t happens and oh well, they're bad guys." He's never once lost any sleep about any bad guys who accidentally died as a result of his Batman-ing, as it's usually their own fault entirely.

I'unno. I won't be watching this show, I don't think, but it's funny to me how people get all bent about this Batman thing. He's actually probably killed more bad guys "by accident" in canon than any other super-hero with a No-Kill rule. :lol:

[MikeandRaph87]

You all will love this especially Andrew:
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/10/13/gerry-conway-dc-credit-creators-titans/


Conway is known for controversial directions ( death of Gwen Stacey & Green Goblin, introduction of Jason Todd, and responsible for JL: Detriot) , but not stirring the pot.

[MikeandRaph87]

I always wanted to see Robin grow with Dick Grayson instead of being a costume that stays at Batman's side. Johns is teasing that very thing, but Nightwing is likely all this means.
https://amp.cinemablend.com/television/2459478/how-much-titans-will-explore-robins-past-according-to-geoff-johns

[AquaParade]

Why do people keep saying that? They've had a TON of flat-out awful DC animated films over the last few years and only a few of them were even decent. A small few were really good, but... people need to stop with the "DC is King of Animation" stuff. It's a lie, at this point, only even half-true because Marvel never cared enough about that stuff to even try.

If you take all the DC animated films into account, it's about 60/40 Crap-To-Good, at best. Maybe 50/50 if you're generous, or too blinded by voice actors from your childhood to admit that Killing Joke was lousy.

And I still need someone to explain to me why Batman killing people is such a huge deal. He killed people in the early comics on purpose, he's killed a TON of bad guys "accidentally-but-not-too-upset-about-it" in the comics across all the decades since, he blatantly killed a bunch of people in the Keaton films, and despite all the prattle about his "code" in the Nolan movies, he absolutely killed a LOT of people, they just didn't show any bodies.

So this thing where people whine about Batman being a "murderer" is weird. I'm guessing it's because their idea of Batman comes from kids' cartoons. in the comics, the rule is basically, "He's not TRYING to kill anyone, but sometimes sh*t happens and oh well, they're bad guys." He's never once lost any sleep about any bad guys who accidentally died as a result of his Batman-ing, as it's usually their own fault entirely.

I'unno. I won't be watching this show, I don't think, but it's funny to me how people get all bent about this Batman thing. He's actually probably killed more bad guys "by accident" in canon than any other super-hero with a No-Kill rule. :lol:

I generally agree on both points.

First of all, I don't really find any of the DC animated movies that have come out in the last ten years entertaining. To each their own, but I find these animated releases to be poor-quality adaptions of the comic books they typically adapt. I love the concept, but the budget and proper time isn't given, so they feel the same as any old children's cartoon to me, "mature" content or not.

Batman killing is another thing I don't get riled up about. Batman is a rich character and whether he kills or not, it doesn't "break" the character. You can mine rich stories from him either way.

[Leo656]

"Death of Superman" was pretty good, but if they hadn't crammed it into the New 52-verse it would have been even better. That said, a lot of the changes were simple streamlining rather than the arrogant, "We know better than the original writers" stuff they usually pull. It was "faithful in spirit", if that makes any sense. I'm usually purist as hell but that one got it right in the important ways, I felt. Looking forward to the sequel.

Even "Gotham By Gaslight" was very well done, BUT, it all but wipes its ass with the comic book it shares a name with. That was my ONLY complaint: If you're going to borrow a name in an attempt to entice existing fans of that work, you'd best be faithful or else it's pointless at best, false advertising at worst. So many of the newer adaptations are "In Name Only", and I think that's lazy bullsh*t.

If "Dark Knight Returns" can get practically a frame-by-frame remake, then they can - and should - do it for ALL of them. Because frankly, DKR isn't even that good a story, but I loved how faithful the animated version was. THAT's what I wanna see. No excuse not to.

[AquaParade]

"Death of Superman" was pretty good, but if they hadn't crammed it into the New 52-verse it would have been even better. That said, a lot of the changes were simple streamlining rather than the arrogant, "We know better than the original writers" stuff they usually pull. It was "faithful in spirit", if that makes any sense. I'm usually purist as hell but that one got it right in the important ways, I felt. Looking forward to the sequel.

Even "Gotham By Gaslight" was very well done, BUT, it all but wipes its ass with the comic book it shares a name with. That was my ONLY complaint: If you're going to borrow a name in an attempt to entice existing fans of that work, you'd best be faithful or else it's pointless at best, false advertising at worst. So many of the newer adaptations are "In Name Only", and I think that's lazy bullsh*t.


"Dark Knight Returns" can get practically a frame-by-frame remake, then they can - and should - do it for ALL of them. Because frankly, DKR isn't even that good a story, but I loved how faithful the animated version was. THAT's what I wanna see. No excuse not to.

For any of these adaptions to be interesting to me, they'd need much better animation.
The comics have so much artistry in the panels and inner-monologue - most of which can't be represented in the animated version (DKR's adaption lost a lot of what makes Frank Miller's work so fun when it was forced to either drop bits of inner-monologue or awkwardly have Bruce speak them aloud).

So, these being produced on a shoestring budget leaves little for them to bring to the table. If you're going to serve something in the animated realm, especially based on a medium all about visuals, it should be visually exciting. But none of these even look as good as The Batman Animated series from a couple decades ago. I rather just read the book - that's where the magic is at.

I'll praise the DRK adaption for bringing an awesome musical score to the table - something the comic can't provide. I also really enjoy the Batman: Gotham Knight for it's lush animation and utilization of comic book writers.

[Leo656]

Yeah, they really stopped taking great care with the art, at some point. Some of them like "Public Enemies" and "New Frontier" do such a great job evoking the style of the books they were based on, and then... you get something like "Killing Joke", where the comic book's art is virtually unparalleled, but the cartoon is as flat and boring as can be, devoid of any of the detail that made the original so rich. I get a much more dynamic feeling from the book, and those are static images that don't move. How can the artwork in motion be LESS interesting to look at? I'unno, but there it is.

Personally, with that one I feel that they blew their nut on the voice cast, but even then, it's not like the other films recently have looked much better, even without expensive players like Hammil and Tara Strong.

I'm with you on that one; they really could tighten up on the art. I mean, for one thing, it'd be nice if the people drawing the "Death/Return" Superman movies could figure out that generally, a guy's jawline is NOT wider than the top of their skull; in fact, the opposite is true. :lol: I liked that movie, but Superman's head looked like it was "squished" and it was constantly distracting. Sh*t like that needs to stop.

[TurtleTitan97]

First official look at the Doom Patrol, minus Crazy Jane:

https://i.redd.it/ei0gekecdiu11.jpg

[AquaParade]

Sorry to vent but I'm really annoyed at how difficult it is to use this service despite having a ps4 and 2017 Sony television. How is there no way to access this on either of those devices? Grrrr!

Doom Patrol looks great.

Edit: Oh hey, look at my avatar.

[Redeemer]

For anyone who has the service I am curious how is the comic selection on there??? I heard it is not on the level of Marvel Unlimited, but I was wondering if it was worth getting the stream for

[MikeandRaph87]

https://www.cbr.com/titans-robin-dick-grayson-mass-murder/amp/

I always wanted to see Robin develop with Dick Grayson opposed to a costume that has an age limit and has to stay with Batman..Dick Grayson did create the identity on his own afterall. However, not in this manner of evolution.

[CyberCubed]

Young Justice Season 3 starts January 4th, but since you have to pay DC's streaming service to watch it, I'll just wait till people upload the show to all those cartoon streaming websites instead which will probably happen a day or two later. :lol:

[Leo656]

https://www.cbr.com/titans-robin-dick-grayson-mass-murder/amp/

I always wanted to see Robin develop with Dick Grayson opposed to a costume that has an age limit and has to stay with Batman..Dick Grayson did create the identity on his own afterall. However, not in this manner of evolution.

I'm sure you're well aware that in several earlier incarnations, Bruce Wayne not only "created" the Robin persona, he was the first one to use it, long before he was Batman.

That's a bit that I can personally take or leave, and I don't think anyone's actually made that "hard canon" since the 1980s, but nonetheless, it's been established more than once that Batman "owns" the Robin mantle and can give it to people or take it away as he sees fit. :)

A grown man, in my opinion, needs a better nickname than "Robin", anyway, but I'unno. :lol: Ask any 25-year old dude if they were gonna be a super-hero, would they personally pick "Robin" or "Nightwing" as their handle, see what happens. :trazz:

[newfan]

This came up on Netflix today, just checking out the first ep.
Edit: Too early to say just now, interesting enough to continue the ep and look at another, see where they are going. I'm not sure on one or two of the characters but I need to see more of them and how they interact with each other at this point. (course I don't these characters well anyway as other will)

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Okay, I don't get this... we've had multiple evil/morally compromised versions of superman over the multiverse (injustice, Dark Knight returns, etc.) and nobody complains, but one bad version of batman, in one DC series, and every gets mad? wow

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Okay, I don't get this... we've had multiple evil/morally compromised versions of superman over the multiverse (injustice, Dark Knight returns, etc.) and nobody complains, but one bad version of batman, in one DC series, and every gets mad? wow

It's a fact. There are more Batman fans than Superman fans in the general audience.

[newfan]

So the Titans is only on Netflix outside of the US, I forget what channel you guys have it on. Not short on violence for those who like it. It's not wowed me at this point but still watching at the moment.

[sdp]

I wonder if they'll try to connect it to the Arrowverse with the Crisis on infinite earths crossover or if they'll build their own DC streaming service shared universe. I'm glad it's on Netflix now, I'll start watching and hope they keep making those DC originals this way outside the US.

[newfan]

I wonder if they'll try to connect it to the Arrowverse with the Crisis on infinite earths crossover or if they'll build their own DC streaming service shared universe. I'm glad it's on Netflix now, I'll start watching and hope they keep making those DC originals this way outside the US.

It doesn't give me an Arrowverse feel, anyway let me know what you make of it.

[Vicky82]

I just finished watching Titans and I enjoyed it. I can't wait for the 2nd season.

I want to watch Young Justice Outsiders next but I don't know when it will appear on Netflix.

[BartAllen]

I just finished watching Titans and I enjoyed it. I can't wait for the 2nd season.

I want to watch Young Justice Outsiders next but I don't know when it will appear on Netflix.

YJ Outsiders is fantastic.

I might give Titans a view later today. From the reviews I've seen, it seems to be a bit of a mixed bag. I am definitely interested in the show, though.

[Vicky82]

Ok I decided not to bother waiting for Netflix, so I decided to watch the other way.

YJ Outsiders is fantastic.



Yeah I've only just seen the 1st episode and I enjoyed it but OH My God!!!!! I didn't expect it to be quite violent (blood, deaths ect). :o

I guess being aired on a streaming service they can get away with a lot as there's not much restrictions, it just has to be under the right age rating.

I assume this comes under as a PG 13 or R rating in the US.

[sdp]

I've been watching Titans, I'm a few episodes in and it's weird, not bad weird just weird so far. I can't say I like it yet though, I get Watchmen movie vibes at times since it's very realistic and yet the characters are still well Teen Titans, seems like it fits more in the style of the DCEU than the Arrowverse though, and still it's far more violent, I wish it was a little less violent but it's cool.

I'm guessing there isn't as much discussion about this show online because it's DC streaming service exclusive in the US which is a shame but cool that I can watch it on Netflix.

Edit: Finished watching Titans, great show, a little too violent most of the heroes kill which is the biggest problem the show has but better than anyone could've expected and better than many of the marvel/dc shows people like.

[Leo656]

Didn't know where else to put this.

https://screenrant.com/doom-patrol-teaser-trailer-mr-nobody/

Intriguing! I don't have the service and have not seen the shows, but Mr. Nobody has always been one of my pet favorites. The whole deal is just so bizarre.

Never imagined I would ever see a live-action version of the Brotherhood of Dada, of all things. We live in interesting times.

[Autbot_Benz]

Gary Miereanu
‏ @SuperPRGuy
2h2 hours ago

"Titans: The Complete First Season," the oh-so-cool #DCUniverse streaming service live-action series, is coming to Digital March 21 from @WBHomeEnt, and Blu-ray/DVD later (before second season premiere). #Titans

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Gary Miereanu
‏ @SuperPRGuy
2h2 hours ago

"Titans: The Complete First Season," the oh-so-cool #DCUniverse streaming service live-action series, is coming to Digital March 21 from @WBHomeEnt, and Blu-ray/DVD later (before second season premiere). #Titans

Excellent. I can borrow it from the library and finally watch this thing, which I am assuming is a total P.O.S. Could be proven wrong, though, so here's hoping...

[Leo656]

Going by word of mouth, it's supposed to be very good, actually. I'm constantly seeing people comment that "I expected to hate it, but it's actually really good." Apparently the trailers misrepresented some of it.

I'm curious, but I can't get over that goddamn Starfire. I see little clips of the show here and there that are excellent, and most of the costumes (especially Hawk and Dove) are fantastic. But Starfire... Jeebus, that was a huge mistake, and I'm a big fan of the character (pre-New 52) so it would be tough for me to ignore enough to be objective about the rest of it.

Whoever decided she should be presented as a $2 hooker should be fired. It couldn't possibly have been the same one who okay'ed the Hawk and Dove costumes. How do you go from "ultra-faithful" to "Eh, who gives a sh*t" within the same show? It's baffling.

I might pick it up if I see it cheap. I'd like to see more "streaming" shows get a physical release, since I don't subscribe to any and don't advocate piracy.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Going by word of mouth, it's supposed to be very good, actually. I'm constantly seeing people comment that "I expected to hate it, but it's actually really good." Apparently the trailers misrepresented some of it.

I'm curious, but I can't get over that goddamn Starfire. I see little clips of the show here and there that are excellent, and most of the costumes (especially Hawk and Dove) are fantastic. But Starfire... Jeebus, that was a huge mistake, and I'm a big fan of the character (pre-New 52) so it would be tough for me to ignore enough to be objective about the rest of it.

Whoever decided she should be presented as a $2 hooker should be fired. It couldn't possibly have been the same one who okay'ed the Hawk and Dove costumes. How do you go from "ultra-faithful" to "Eh, who gives a sh*t" within the same show? It's baffling.

I might pick it up if I see it cheap. I'd like to see more "streaming" shows get a physical release, since I don't subscribe to any and don't advocate piracy.

I've been surprised at all of the positive reception as well. Between the Crack Whore Starfire costume and the Grimdark Dick Grayson, it was an easy choice to not sign up for this streaming service.

I am still curious to make an informed final opinion on the show, though. We'll see.

[Leo656]

Apparently Doom Patrol is also getting great buzz. I'm weird in that, I've never been a huge fan of them, BUT, I'm kind of a fan of Mr. Nobody and the Brotherhood of Dada, so seeing that stuff get the live-action treatment is supremely interesting to me.

I can't speak to the portrayal of Dick Grayson, but I wouldn't have cast that actor. He's got some kinda weird compression thing happening with his lower jaw. Just looks weird. Superficial criticism, I know, but it's a visual medium. He doesn't look like any version of the character I've ever imagined in my head. That always throws me off.

What made it easy for me not to sign up is, I just don't do streaming services in general. My wife subscribes to WWE Network and that's already $9.99 down the drain every month. My media collection is massive and I can find 99% of what I don't already own on disc somewhere, which is how I prefer it.

What's funny is that they've recently been advertising the original "Shazam!" series, which I do not own as of yet. :trazz: I expect it'll start turning up in stores again when the movie hits, at which point I'll probably pick it up. Looks pretty Craptacular from what I've seen. :lol:

[ZariusTwo]

We have a new Batman, Iain Glen has landed a recurring role as Bruce

https://deadline.com/2019/04/batman-game-of-thrones-star-will-portray-bruce-wayne-on-titans-dc-universe-1202593583/

[Andrew NDB]

Swamp Thing has been shut down early by WB as they "Reeavaluate" their streaming service.

https://www.starnewsonline.com/news/20190416/swamp-thing-to-shut-down-production-early

http://www.darkhorizons.com/swamp-thing-series-shuts-down-amid-turmoil

Doesn't bode well for their other shows!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Swamp Thing has been shut down early by WB as they "Reeavaluate" their streaming service.

https://www.starnewsonline.com/news/20190416/swamp-thing-to-shut-down-production-early

http://www.darkhorizons.com/swamp-thing-series-shuts-down-amid-turmoil

Doesn't bode well for their other shows!

The main theory I'm reading is that DC Universe will get rolled up into whatever streaming service Warner Brothers launches.

Seems messy. Also seems way too early to pull the plug on something this big.

[sdp]

The "evaluating part" while probably true seems to be FAKE news and speculation as there is no real source for that.

As far as the service as I said when it was first announced, WB would make an amazing service, just a DC one? A bit more difficult. I get it that they wanted to link it to a comics services as well and an all superhero hub but those are two different business models. Have a Marvel Unlimited type service for comic fans and a streaming service for casuals that has superhero stuff there.

WB has tons of great content that can rival Disney, but even Disney didn't have a separate service for Marvel shows/movies and one for Star Wars. They have Disney+ and Hulu which will likely be for more mature stuff and Fox stuff. WB could make a good contender of a service, they already have Boomerang streaming service that streams tons of those old cartoons they have in their catalog like Looney Tunes, Hanna Barbera etc and I'm sure that service isn't doing great numbers either. Why not have ONE streaming service with all of that, now that would be worth it.

[TurtleTitan97]

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[Redeemer]

The "evaluating part" while probably true seems to be FAKE news and speculation as there is no real source for that.

As far as the service as I said when it was first announced, WB would make an amazing service, just a DC one? A bit more difficult. I get it that they wanted to link it to a comics services as well and an all superhero hub but those are two different business models. Have a Marvel Unlimited type service for comic fans and a streaming service for casuals that has superhero stuff there.

WB has tons of great content that can rival Disney, but even Disney didn't have a separate service for Marvel shows/movies and one for Star Wars. They have Disney+ and Hulu which will likely be for more mature stuff and Fox stuff. WB could make a good contender of a service, they already have Boomerang streaming service that streams tons of those old cartoons they have in their catalog like Looney Tunes, Hanna Barbera etc and I'm sure that service isn't doing great numbers either. Why not have ONE streaming service with all of that, now that would be worth it.

Seriously why not just jump on that??? WB is honestly just trying to be greedy and making people pay multiple times by dividing up their product. Unfortunately I believe this streaming wars will become the next version of cable eventually. Eventually there will be a bundled deal and we will have a new version of cable.

[Andrew NDB]

Swamp Thing cancelled (again) after the first episode aired:

https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/06/06/swamp-thing-reportedly-cancelled-dc-universe

I didn't even know it was airing yet?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Swamp Thing cancelled (again) after the first episode aired:

https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/06/06/swamp-thing-reportedly-cancelled-dc-universe

I didn't even know it was airing yet?

Me either.

Unfortunately, at this point, I'm almost tempted to say the indecisiveness and bureaucratic meddling that afflict the DCEU films are starting to rear their heads in the streaming TV series.

So far it's just Swamp Thing. Maybe I'm jumping the gun. Doesn't feel like it, though.

[AquaParade]

The first episode was great. I really hope this series finds a way to continue.

The DC Universe app really is cool. I understand that it's a hard sell given the competition on the market and it's somewhat limited appeal, but I really feel like they are trying to deliver a quality service.

A Doom Patrol show based on Grant Morrison's work? A Swamp Thing horror series influenced by Alan Moore's work on the character? These shows are awesome! I even enjoyed reading a few comics on the app, though I primarily stick to physical.

[Autbot_Benz]

Rumor CW and HBO looking at picking up Swamp Thing for S2

https://thegww.com/breaking-swamp-thing-canceled-after-one-season-at-dc-universe/

id only want on CW so I could watch it but I don't want it becoming an SJW show for girls who wanna bone a Swamp Creature.

Also if to goes to CW they will make Abby a strong female (Like Iris and Felicity) and the show will center around her and not Swamp Thing:lol:

[Raph's Girl]

So apparantly Lex Luthor is gonna be popping up in Titans season 2. He hasn't been cast yet tho but Mercy Graves has and will be played by Natalie Gumede (only thing I've seen her in is the 2014 Doctor Who Christmas episode)

https://www.newsarama.com/45561-mercy-graves-cast-for-dc-universe-s-titans.html

[Vicky82]

Young Justice has been renewed for a 4th season. :D

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/young_justice/young-justice-officially-renewed-for-a-fourth-season-at-the-dc-universe-a169633

[Redeemer]

Young Justice has been renewed for a 4th season. :D

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/young_justice/young-justice-officially-renewed-for-a-fourth-season-at-the-dc-universe-a169633

Yes!!! Season 3 hasn't even finished airing yet!!!! This is great news!!!!

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Is anyone actually enjoying season 3?

[CyberCubed]

I certainly enjoyed the lesbian kiss between Halo and the blu haired girl in the last episode. It came out of nowhere and is the first lesbian kiss in DC animation. Even funnier how they both said they have boyfriends and kissed anyway. What a time to be alive. Greg Weisman knows exactly what the fans want.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

I certainly enjoyed the lesbian kiss between Halo and the blu haired girl in the last episode. It came out of nowhere and is the first lesbian kiss in DC animation. Even funnier how they both said they have boyfriends and kissed anyway. What a time to be alive. Greg Weisman knows exactly what the fans want.

I'm amazed just how obsessed you are with it

[Vegita-San]

I'm amazed just how obsessed you are with it

considering the source, you shouldn't be.

never mind is anyone enjoying the season, is anyone actually WATCHING it?
I doubt many signed up for dc's streaming service just for this.

[Vicky82]

considering the source, you shouldn't be.

never mind is anyone enjoying the season, is anyone actually WATCHING it?
I doubt many signed up for dc's streaming service just for this.

Well obviously people are watching it on the DC service, otherwise there wouldn't be a season 4.

Also there are other ways of watching it.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Just wondering if it's worth watching, I like the first 2 season, is it as good?

[CyberCubed]

It’s more of the same, although I find the 3 new major characters Brione, Halo, And Forager to get kinda annoying at times. Probably due to the fake thick accents they have and how most of the story arc revolves around them.

Beast Boy is great and he’s voiced by Greg Cipes now the same person who did him in Teen titans and of course Michelangelo in the 2012 cartoon.

[Shark_Blade]

So Aquaman x Aqualad is canon. Pretty ballsy, I was expecting Marvel to take the first move.

https://i.imgur.com/Yk76keh.jpg

[CyberCubed]

This show moving out of Cartoon Network and into online streaming is making them take all sorts of risks they couldn't do if it still aired on a kids channel. As long as we don't have stuff like Batgirl having sex with Batman like we had to suffer through in Bruce Timm's disturbing movie adaption of The Killing Joke, we should be good.

Remember Halo is also non-binary and not a muslim, and Kaldur is at least bisexual. I wonder what's next.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

So I'm finally watching Titans for myself...

Holy crap, this a terrible show. Dark and angsty for the sake of dark and angsty. It's fvcking ridiculous.

Dick Grayson is a sadist in the second episode. I hate it, and anyone who calls themself a Robin/Nightwing fan should hate it.

And yet... and yet, they do a fvcking perfect Jason Todd. Mouthy little @sshole with a huge chip on his shoulder. :tlol:

I reckon the first season is a lost cause, and maybe once Dick is Nightwing and the show is in its second season, it can outgrow its terrible, terrible first season? The first season that looks like Zack Snyder hatefvcked Geoff Johns while Frank Miller watched jacking off from the corner?

[newfan]

Season 2 came up on Netflix (those outside the US) a few days back, on ep 6 right now.

There is a young male clone made from Superman's and Lex Luthor's genes, currently with the emotional level of a tot and just escaped from the lab

Need to read up a little more on the various Robin history, just at a disadvantage with lack of familiarity beyond TV there.

I first mistook Bruce Wayne for Albert also :)

Edit: Just checked the ep list, there are 13 this season and it looks like Grayson
becomes Nightwing.

[ZariusTwo]

Barbra Gordon confirmed for Titans season three, she'll be the commissioner

https://discussingfilm.net/2020/01/13/barbara-gordon-oracle-set-to-join-titans-season-3-exclusive/

[newfan]

Barbra Gordon confirmed for Titans season three, she'll be the commissioner

https://discussingfilm.net/2020/01/13/barbara-gordon-oracle-set-to-join-titans-season-3-exclusive/

I was wondering if it was getting another season, I have been more into this season than the last one, though it leave you feeling like some really need to get their sh*t together.... part of the story though.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Barbra Gordon confirmed for Titans season three, she'll be the commissioner

https://discussingfilm.net/2020/01/13/barbara-gordon-oracle-set-to-join-titans-season-3-exclusive/

The... Commissioner?

Sigh.

[ZariusTwo]

DC Universe switching to comics-only subscription service in 2021

https://www.gamesradar.com/dc-universe-service-switching-to-comics-only-in-2021-as-dc-universe-infinite/

[Autbot_Benz]

Barbra Gordon confirmed for Titans season three, she'll be the commissioner

https://discussingfilm.net/2020/01/13/barbara-gordon-oracle-set-to-join-titans-season-3-exclusive/

Babs has been cast she will be played by Savannah Welch

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/titans-season-3-barbara-gordon-savannah-welch-1234886752/

[Autbot_Benz]

Tim Drake is coming to titans


DC Titans on Max
@DCTitans
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CASTING ANNOUNCEMENT: From the shadow of the bat, a new hero arrives to join season 3 of #DCTitans. Please welcome Jay Lycurgo as Tim Drake.

https://i.imgur.com/eNVDl21.jpg

[CyberCubed]

Tim Drake is black now?

Has there ever been a black Robin before?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Tim Drake is black now?

Has there ever been a black Robin before?

Duke Thomas, sorta.

[ZariusTwo]

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Also, confirmation that Babs will be a cripple in the show

https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F6%2F2021%2F06%2F15%2FT itans_3.jpg

[CyberCubed]

Is this Titans show any good? I think I only ever watched the first episode and then I bailed.

[Autbot_Benz]

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[CyberCubed]

Is this show any good? Once I saw Starfire was a black woman and that she was going to stay looking black instead of her orange skin color, I said:

"I'm out."

[sdp]

season 1 was pretty cool, nothing like teen titans, a grim dark interpretation but I liked it. Haven't checked the rest.

[Autbot_Benz]

Titus Welliver cast as Lex Luthor in season 4

Actor Titus Welliver has been cast in the role of Lex Luthor in Season 4 of the HBO Max series, "Titans".

"He has a very sensitive, thoughtful approach to evil and power. You know what he's done, what he's capable of doing, except like many of those people, he's personable," stated showrunner Greg Walker in an interview with EW.com. "He doesn't have a cat on his lap. Yeah. He's curious, which I think is very interesting about his character. He wants to know about people and what makes them tick, and how they're different from him. He sees the world through the lens both of his own power and his own inadequacy, and tries to compensate for both."

https://www.supermansupersite.com/Titus_Welliver_Cast_as_Lex_Luthor_in_Season_4_of_T itans.html