New Ghostbusters movie is coming, 2019

[Andrew NDB]

https://maniacalgeek.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/ghostbuster-lady-thumb.jpg

https://www.themarysue.com/ghostbusters-may-arrive-in-2019/

"there is a demand for Holtzmann, Yates, Tolan, and Gilbert."

The all-female Ghostbusters ride again?

[Autbot_Benz]

Oh brother please don't be the fiegbusters again. Go with a new group of ghostbusters. Also keep Paul Feig away from this movie

[Andrew NDB]

Oh brother please don't be the fiegbusters again. Go with a new group of ghostbusters.

That sounds sexist.

[Autbot_Benz]

That sounds sexist.

ya I am a sexist misogynistic manpig :lol: cause I hate fiegbusters.

[Cure]

This is a bit misleading. Person was saying it COULD happen and "fans" COULD expect it in 2019.

[tmntfannumerouno]

The first movie was unwatchable. What makes them think this is going to be any better?



#****thefiegbusters #notliterally #notthathardup #maybeifiwasblinddeafandstupid

[Andrew NDB]

The first movie was unwatchable. What makes them think this is going to be any better?

Paul Feig has probably learned from all of his mistakes. Like, look at how much better the "Director's Cut" was with the 4 new dance numbers vs. the theatrical version.

[snake]

Obviously, I can't wait for this movie.

[tmntfannumerouno]

Paul Feig has probably learned from all of his mistakes. Like, look at how much better the "Director's Cut" was with the 4 new dance numbers vs. the theatrical version.

I'm guessing that's a joke? I hope that's a joke. WTF!

edit: **** me that's an actual thing
This must be one of the signs of the apocalypse. This truly is the end of days.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm guessing that's a joke? I hope that's a joke. WTF!

Not a joke.

[Autbot_Benz]

Make the movie with 2 girls and 2 guys busters and keep Paul Fieg away

[GoldMutant]

Andrew, was "Answer the Call" actually better on DVD? I did want to see it in theaters out of curiosity but never had the opportunity.

I still wish we had a passing of the torch movie, but if there is a sequel, I hope it doesn't attract the same controversy and can be a solid flick for most.

Until then, I have the IDW comics and 360 game to satisfy my Ghostbuster needs for now. Which reminds me, if there is a sequel by then, I expect a better game tie-in. The 2016 game sucked badly.

[Andrew NDB]

Andrew, was "Answer the Call" actually better on DVD?

It was significantly worse.

[GoldMutant]

It was significantly worse.

Goody, now I retract my first statement. :lol:

I do wonder how the reactions are going to go, and so far, I'm getting a chuckle out of them. Please let this sequel be decent.

[Andrew NDB]

I do wonder how the reactions are going to go, and so far, I'm getting a chuckle out of them. Please let this sequel be decent.

It's really not clear at all that this IS a sequel, or even has anything to do with the female Ghostbusters. The line in the article about "Response to Ghostbusters: Answer the Call was mixed, but there’s no doubt, with the inclusion of the all-female team in video games and comics, that there is a demand for Holtzmann, Yates, Tolan, and Gilbert" was entirely speculative of the article writer. And not really accurate, in any case. They appear in the video games because the video games were already in development before the movie even came out, not because the movie was a hit and there was all this fan demand. It would have cost them more money NOT to release the games. They appear in the IDW comics because IDW wanted to use them (probably an attempt to cash in on controversy... smart), not because anyone was beating down their door for them to do so.

[Spike Spiegel]

That article Andrew posted was dishonest and click-baity, but--

If they had a competently written script with a memorable villain and main characters that could actually be differentiated from one other, I'd give the new team another chance. The 101 comic shows that the characters can be funny and effective.

I like the OG 'Busters best obviously, but with Ramis dead and the others as old as dirt, it's not going to realistically happen. They'd be smart to look at what IDW's done with multiple teams worth of characters occupying the same universe/multiverse. Lots of possibilities for a sprawling, branching film franchise.

I'd also love to see a new animated series on the same level as Real/Extreme Ghostbusters with the new cast.

[Autbot_Benz]

That article Andrew posted was dishonest and click-baity, but--

If they had a competently written script with a memorable villain and main characters that could actually be differentiated from one other, I'd give the new team another chance. The 101 comic shows that the characters can be funny and effective.

I like the OG 'Busters best obviously, but with Ramis dead and the others as old as dirt, it's not going to realistically happen. They'd be smart to look at what IDW's done with multiple teams worth of characters occupying the same universe/multiverse. Lots of possibilities for a sprawling, branching film franchise.

I'd also love to see a new animated series on the same level as Real/Extreme Ghostbusters with the new cast.

what do you expect Themarysue is a feminist website :lol:

[Vegita-San]

this movie was the beginning of the end of free sensible speech online...and the start of everyone going bat crap crazy....

all you have to do is mention 'ghostbusters' now and the hate and vile and insults start flying one's way, and the man tears memes start popping up.

these are the kind of people this movie brought into the franchise, and sony still forces IDW to do a mini series on it?

if they wanted to do it on their own they would not have waited a year to do so...

sigh..

thanks man hating sites like themarysue and guardian and a few dozen others. you're not helping the situation at all ;).

[CyberCubed]

I still don't get why Ghostbusters as a movie franchise is a thing. I understand the comics and all, but the live-action movies have no reason to exist without the original cast and they're all just too old now.

[Andrew NDB]

I still don't get why Ghostbusters as a movie franchise is a thing. I understand the comics and all, but the live-action movies have no reason to exist without the original cast and they're all just too old now.

The new one might be what everyone wanted to see with the reboot to begin with... a new cast, some mix of male and female members, with Ray and Winston around to help them out and equip them. If Venkman can be there, all the better.

[Candy Kappa]

I'd love to see another movie with Abby, Holtz, Gilbert and Patty. A crossover with the old team would be pretty sweet.

[Allio]

Just give me Ghostbusters with the cast of Whose line and I'll be set.

[Powder]

Just give me Ghostbusters with the cast of Whose line and I'll be set.

I did not realize how badly I wanted this...

[Utrommaniac]

That would be absolutely glorious :lol: !

[Storm Eagle]

Make the movie with 2 girls and 2 guys busters and keep Paul Fieg away

Yes, and one white, one black, one Hispanic, and one Asian. Ken Jeong anyone? Lin-Manuel Miranda perhaps? :)

[Wildcat]

I saw this yesterday. I said it's not surprising for movies that underperformed to get sequels. Most of the issue was the reaction not the movie.

I hope it happens and they connect it to the originals. It might not be a direct sequel but I'm sure they'll keep it and it's characters officially part of the franchise and canon now.

There's no way they'll ever write it off with all the hate it got. It would be seen as giving into to the controversy and the complaints.

[oldmanwinters]

I guess this means we can gear up for the 3rd entry of the Bay-verse TMNT?

[DestronMirage22]

Hopefully this new film wouldn't be more of the same drek we got last year. And if it is, at least IDW's still representing the brand in a good way.

[Andrew NDB]

This offers a clue:

http://ghostbustersnews.com/2017/07/24/harold-ramis-daughter-comments-new-ghostbusters-film-possibly-featuring-cg-egon/

If they are actively talking about whether or not they should or will do a CGI Egon... and this says they are... we can kind of figure out where their head is for the new movie.

[oldmanwinters]

This offers a clue:

http://ghostbustersnews.com/2017/07/24/harold-ramis-daughter-comments-new-ghostbusters-film-possibly-featuring-cg-egon/

If they are actively talking about whether or not they should or will do a CGI Egon... and this says they are... we can kind of figure out where their head is for the new movie.

Ugh. Sony, please stop.

[sdp]

Can they even do a crossover in a new one? Didn't Answer the Call establish itself as a reboot or could that be retconned?


Answer the Call is also not "terrible" I half-watched it in a flight and it seemed generic/mediocre but not horrible.

[Powder]

I would check out a new GB with the old cast & a CGI Egon ghost cameo. As long as it's done tastefully & his family's into it, it could be a really cool tribute to him.

[Wildcat]

At first I was against a CGI Egon when I heard it but if it's something small it could work. Like if he appeared on a video screen to warn the the others of a threat or something where it wouldn't be so apparent that it was cgi.

A ghost would be ok too I guess. I remember some art people made when he passed away. One had him going into a ghost trap but that really did not make sense. The team would not capture him and put him into the containment unit.

I'm still disappointed they're going with the alternate universe thing to merge them. It's alright but I would have done that differently.

Although a long time ago before the reboot Dan Aykroyd mentioned a supposed plot for GB3 about a new team discovering alternate dimensions. It fits. It is about the supernatural.

[Andrew NDB]

I posted in the other thread one way it could work. It could be the female Ghostbusters find out Gozer has made the whole world forget the original Ghostbusters ever existed, and gave them other civilian identities. The female Ghostbusters could snap the original Ghostbusters out of it, then they all team up to put Gozer down for good.

That or a variation of it would work nice if they don't want to get into alternate dimensions. I'd kind of rather they didn't, myself.

[Wildcat]

I posted in the other thread one way it could work. It could be the female Ghostbusters find out Gozer has made the whole world forget the original Ghostbusters ever existed, and gave them other civilian identities. The female Ghostbusters could snap the original Ghostbusters out of it, then they all team up to put Gozer down for good.

That or a variation of it would work nice if they don't want to get into alternate dimensions. I'd kind of rather they didn't, myself.Ya I remember. I said the government erased people's minds but I like your way better.

I'm not against alternate dimensions. They fit with the series. The reason I'm against the use for this situation is I don't like that the original GB and new GB do not exist in the same world.

I feel it discredits both. As in "you're not good enough so we're making you into an alternate universe".

I know it's Paul Feig's fault for not making it some kinda continuation but they could try a different way to connect them. It's not that hard. I guess it's up to Ivan Reitman or Dan Aykroyd. They control GhostCorps.

[snake]

I would incorporate Egon's death into the movie rather than use a CGI Egon, unless it would appear in a flashback scene.

[Andrew NDB]

Ya I remember. I said the government erased people's minds but I like your way better.

I'm not against alternate dimensions. They fit with the series. The reason I'm against the use for this situation is I don't like that the original GB and new GB do not exist in the same world.

I feel it discredits both. As in "you're not good enough so we're making you into an alternate universe".

I know it's Paul Feig's fault for not making it some kinda continuation but they could try a different way to connect them. It's not that hard. I guess it's up to Ivan Reitman or Dan Aykroyd. They control GhostCorps.

Yeah, the thing about making alternate dimensions/universes to try and reconcile things in a franchise -- and this comes up often in comics -- is that you don't actually end up doing that. You just end up compartmentalizing them and making things even more convoluted.

[Vegita-San]

I posted in the other thread one way it could work. It could be the female Ghostbusters find out Gozer has made the whole world forget the original Ghostbusters ever existed, and gave them other civilian identities. The female Ghostbusters could snap the original Ghostbusters out of it, then they all team up to put Gozer down for good.

That or a variation of it would work nice if they don't want to get into alternate dimensions. I'd kind of rather they didn't, myself.

you already put far more thought and effort into something than the people who made the last movie.

[ToTheNines]

The ATC girls are getting their own series in October.

https://img.purch.com/h/1400/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5uZXdzYXJhbWEuY29tL2ltYWdlcy9pLzAwMC 8yMDQvMjU4L29yaWdpbmFsL0dCX0FUQ18wMV9BLmpwZz8xNTAw OTI1MzY1

I like the movie and I've loved the GB101 crossover with the original team, but I'm extremely tenuous about getting behind any GB comic that isn't by Burnham/Schoening/Delgado.

[Spike Spiegel]

The ATC girls are getting their own series in October.

I like the movie and I've loved the GB101 crossover with the original team, but I'm extremely tenuous about getting behind any GB comic that isn't by Burnham/Schoening/Delgado.

I feel the same way.

Judging by the cover art, they're going for that "Tumblr webcomic with heavily decompressed storyline" aesthetic.

Abby and Holtzmann's facial expressions are freaking me out.

[Andrew NDB]

The ATC girls are getting their own series in October.

Oh dear. Well, let's see how they do, flying solo.

[ToTheNines]

I doubt it does well. GB 101 is barely even a top 300 book, and it's only on #4. It's moving 5k copies a month.

The creative team is also a handicap. Kelly Thompson is horrible. Judging by her try at Ghostbusters: Deviations, she might not have even ever watched the original movie. Plus she managed to crap the bed when given the chance to write Kate Bishop in her own Hawkeye ongoing. A shame, as she's perhaps my favorite Marvel character (at least as written by Matt Fraction).

Corin Howell isn't bad, but that issue of GB International she did put me to sleep.

Waltz is still editing, that's the only hope at this point.

[Vegita-San]

hmm... if IDW puts their D team on it....I wonder if that shows what they really think of the movie itself.


My hope is sony is still forcing this on them.

[Candy Kappa]

I really enjoy Thompson, so I'll check out her ACT series.

[ToTheNines]

I really enjoy Thompson, so I'll check out her ACT series.

What can you recommend of hers?

[Andrew NDB]

My hope is sony is still forcing this on them.

I don't think Sony has any way to do that. I do think that IDW is well aware that the controversy of the female Ghostbusters and figures a bit of controversy might translate into comic sales. I don't, however, expect readers' curiosity about the crossover to extend to, "Now I really want to read their new solo series."

Not at all. But I suppose there's no harm in them trying.

[Spike Spiegel]

Their world as portrayed in the movie was not very lived in or fleshed out.

The writer of the comic should have a lot of creative freedom in that regard. And hopefully, the characters will actually have personalities...

[Candy Kappa]

What can you recommend of hers?

Jem and the Holograms

[ToTheNines]

Jem and the Holograms

I knew I knew her name from something else. I'd been meaning to check that out due to Sophie Campbell's involvement, and the colors always look spectacular.

[Candy Kappa]

I haven't read A-Force but I've hard good things about the stuff she's worked on up to CWII, but then it suffers from even meddling.

[Vegita-San]

I don't think Sony has any way to do that. I do think that IDW is well aware that the controversy of the female Ghostbusters and figures a bit of controversy might translate into comic sales. I don't, however, expect readers' curiosity about the crossover to extend to, "Now I really want to read their new solo series."

Not at all. But I suppose there's no harm in them trying.

def not with me. i checked out the crossover HOPING to find the ATC FB's likeable. Nope. same tone as the movie and i havn't bought an issue since they actually teamed up.

3(?)

[Spike Spiegel]

I went and checked out that "Deviations" comic (about a timeline where they never crossed the streams), and I actually thought it was pretty funny.

The absurd humor, alongside the apocalyptic theme and solid character moments, made it feel like an authentic Ghostbusters experience.

I've never read any of Kelly Thompson's stuff before, but that issue left a good impression.

[Andrew NDB]

Fantastic Plinkett video on the 2016 Ghostbusters movie.

AHUV8QLpEAc

[Autbot_Benz]

Fantastic Plinkett video on the 2016 Ghostbusters movie.

AHUV8QLpEAc

ya I watched that last night it was fantastic. Really ripped Paul Feig a good one

[Wildcat]

I've never seen any of that person's videos but an hour (ok 57 mins) just to say how much it sucks (which I assume is the majority of the video) is pretty much the definition of hating. It's a year later.

and that "funny" voice is awful. Does he use it for everything?

[snake]

I've never seen any of that person's videos but an hour (ok 57 mins) just to say how much it sucks (which I assume is the majority of the video) is pretty much the definition of hating. It's a year later.

and that "funny" voice is awful. Does he use it for everything?

It's satire packed with legitimate criticism.

[Cryomancer]

I've never seen any of that person's videos but an hour (ok 57 mins) just to say how much it sucks (which I assume is the majority of the video) is pretty much the definition of hating. It's a year later.

and that "funny" voice is awful. Does he use it for everything?

The voice is only for these specific (Plinkett) videos / other stuff with the same character. The other stuff on the channel is pretty drastically different. I'd suggest giving Best of the Worst a try!

[snake]

The voice is only for these specific (Plinkett) videos / other stuff with the same character. The other stuff on the channel is pretty drastically different. I'd suggest giving Best of the Worst a try!

BOTW and Chinese food is some of the most fun I've had in my life.

[Vegita-San]

I've never seen any of that person's videos but an hour (ok 57 mins) just to say how much it sucks (which I assume is the majority of the video) is pretty much the definition of hating. It's a year later.


oy..

believe it or not, people are allowed to dislike stuff. just like people are allowed to like stuff and this DESERVES to be disliked from top to bottom.

I'm personally glad people are not afraid to hate on it still. the entire production is a sham that should never have happened.

[raph27]

I've never seen any of that person's videos but an hour (ok 57 mins) just to say how much it sucks (which I assume is the majority of the video) is pretty much the definition of hating. It's a year later.

and that "funny" voice is awful. Does he use it for everything?

It's satire packed with legitimate criticism.

Exactly what snake said. It's both meant to be funny and point out legitimate problems with the movie. Some movies are just so terrible that you need that long of a video to list and define all the things that went wrong. His reviews of the Star Wars prequels are great.

[Wildcat]

Wow quoted 4 times. I'm flattered.

Seriously though all legitimate complaints have already been addressed since well, 2014. The rest is just hating for the sake of it. It's obvious because no other "bad" movie has gotten this much attention.

[Vegita-San]

Batman V Superman, Suisicde Squad....The Force Awakens, need i go on?

just another in a run of bad movies lately that never should have gotten made the way they did. people, for whatever reason, just get their pants in a wad over this one. oh, those poor, poor, womens. someone protect them from the evil!

or something.

[Sumac]

TFA is a bad movie? LOL.

[raph27]

It's obvious because no other "bad" movie has gotten this much attention.

You underestimate how much the Internet still continues to sh*t on Spider-Man 3, despite it coming out a decade ago. (I'm not saying that movie doesn't deserve it.)

On that line of thought, TASM2 bashing still continues, especially now being compared to Homecoming.

[sdp]

Ghostbusters Answer The Call is an ok movie that gets too much hate for stupid reasons, mostly angry fanboys and yes misogyny might be a part of it as well.

TFA might not be a bad movie but it's a huge disappointment and easily worse than the hated prequels. It may have higher highs and not have lower lows than the prequels but it's so bland, boring, disappointing that it's easily my least favorite episode.


The internet can be such a hive mentality and if an opinion becomes popular to share then everyone thinks the same even if the large majority have no real experience with it. Example: Everyone is a mirage TMNT fan and was a reader since the beginning :lol:

[Sumac]

TFA might not be a bad movie but it's a huge disappointment and easily worse than the hated prequels. It may have higher highs and not have lower lows than the prequels but it's so bland, boring, disappointing that it's easily my least favorite episode.
I take bland over bad any day, thank you.:tsmile:

[Wildcat]

You underestimate how much the Internet still continues to sh*t on Spider-Man 3, despite it coming out a decade ago. (I'm not saying that movie doesn't deserve it.)

On that line of thought, TASM2 bashing still continues, especially now being compared to Homecoming.Maybe. I've seen some criticism for those Spider-man movies. I've seen more for TFA.

Hating on stuff is so stupid. It makes you come off obnoxious and hard to take seriously in other things.

You don't see people really-liking stuff for the sake of it. It'd be weird (and funny). There might be an odd few but it's not a norm like hating. Why are naysayers the more vocal group?

I've never had the desire to bash or hate something. I just don't think anything deserves that level of hostility or the effort it takes to do so. It's just movies/TV. Stick to what you like.

[Vegita-San]

if everyone thought alike,the world would be a rather boring place.
It's perfectly Ok to dislike things. it's also perfectly ok to constantly dislike things. Just don't do it 24/7 and you'll be fine.

start 'hating' on stuff. you'll find it freeing.

[Shark_Blade]

Fantastic Plinkett video on the 2016 Ghostbusters movie.

AHUV8QLpEAc

The reviewer detailed out things what he didn't like pretty nicely.

The movie could have been better, sure; but I do enjoy the amazing visuals.

[snake]

I take bland over bad any day, thank you.:tsmile:

They're 2 sides of the same coin.

[Sumac]

start 'hating' on stuff. you'll find it freeing.
Hating is a borderline obsession, which is neither healthy, nor logical.

They're 2 sides of the same coin.
No.
There is major difference between being offensively bad and just bland.

As for TFA - I liked it. Well, some parts of it, at least. It does not have enough character to stand on its own, but it miles better than prequels, by virtue of not having whiny Aniken (sic?).

[Vegita-San]

Hating is a borderline obsession, which is neither healthy, nor logical.


neither is liking everything constantly. that gets one venus demilo.

[Sumac]

neither is liking everything constantly. that gets one venus demilo.
There is difference between liking something very much, being indifferent and actively hating.

And what Venus has to do with it? It's not like anyone asked for her creation.

[Andrew NDB]

Ghostbusters Answer The Call is an ok movie that gets too much hate for stupid reasons, mostly angry fanboys and yes misogyny might be a part of it as well.

That's been disproved. With science.

UWROBiX1eSc

[Vegita-San]

That's been disproved. With science.

UWROBiX1eSc

as well as common sense. don't plants use the misogyny excuse anyway, andrew? ;o)

what is it about this one particular G-D movie that causes everyone to go on the offensive if someone doesn't like it? Very odd similarities in the way people like to defend it too. they almost NEVER actually say what they like about the damned thing.

[Allio]

Sadly we live in a world where people will attack for not having the same opinion

So add that to a group that supposedly wants peace and any form of negativity is increased ten fold. Then of course there are those that uses such titles as "love and peace" as a cover as they do the attacking. It's a horrible cycle.

To;dr: humans suck

[Sumac]

To;dr: humans suck
No.
Some of the humans, yes, but such generalizations borders on stupid infantile nihilism.

[Powder]

Stupid infantile nihilism is a refined taste, though.

[Sumac]

Stupid infantile nihilism is a refined taste, though.
Like, generalizations and labeling of everything. :trolleye:

[Allio]

welcome to human nature, it's what we do.

[Sumac]

welcome to human nature, it's what we do.
Pretentious statements?
Not all humans doing it.

[Vegita-San]

Then of course there are those that uses such titles as "love and peace" as a cover as they do the attacking. I

Oh, I just LOVE those people. there's one on another forum that is a master of it....also possible disney plant. They are masters at tricking people to their side...while appearing to be 'positive'..

[ToTheNines]

I went and checked out that "Deviations" comic (about a timeline where they never crossed the streams), and I actually thought it was pretty funny.

The absurd humor, alongside the apocalyptic theme and solid character moments, made it feel like an authentic Ghostbusters experience.

I've never read any of Kelly Thompson's stuff before, but that issue left a good impression.

You're kidding me. I just pulled it out of the long box, since you and I seem to have similar taste most of the time, but it definitely is a stinker.

The art is good and she actually writes the main cast well, but she took the Stay Puft silliness WAY too far. Really lost me on the poop joke, and the spongebob anachronism.

[Andrew NDB]

https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/06/ghostbusters-fan-fest/

Maybe it's just a Fan Fest in 2019? Eh...

[Shark_Blade]

As long it doesn't contain pussy fart jokes.

I know it's a fanfest but it's kinda sad the reboot Ghosbusters is being forgotten. The cast was awesome imo just the script and story are flawed. Weird that it got a Fresh 73% rating on rottentomatoes (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ghostbusters_2016/) though, the critics actually like it?

[Vegita-San]

the critics where afraid of being trashed by toxic positivity.

one guy from chicago dared to tell the truth and basically had to go into hiding. iirc

[Papenbrook]

the critics where afraid of being trashed by toxic positivity.

one guy from chicago dared to tell the truth and basically had to go into hiding. iirc

... and your sources are?

[Allio]

While not a source but looking at the reaction of a guy who just said he wasn’t going to see it...

[Autbot_Benz]

While not a source but looking at the reaction of a guy who just said he wasn’t going to see it...

ya that was AVGN aka James Rolfe it was Ghostbusters 2016 no review I refuse. Everyone lost their **** when he posted that.

[Wildcat]

As long it doesn't contain pussy fart jokes.

I know it's a fanfest but it's kinda sad the reboot Ghosbusters is being forgotten. The cast was awesome imo just the script and story are flawed. Weird that it got a Fresh 73% rating on rottentomatoes (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ghostbusters_2016/) though, the critics actually like it?The number 1 thing the reboot will be remembered for is how much hate it got. Never has any movie or show been trashed to that level. If it was not for that it would have just been another movie that some liked and some didn’t. No big deal.

Once awhile passes I think the movie itself will be looked back on more favorably. Like it could have been better but was fine as is. Just should have been a continuation.

To be honest, ya know how we automatically think of stuff during certain times, well whenever something ghost related has come up I’ve actually caught myself thinking about the reboot’s proton packs.

[Sumac]

ya that was AVGN aka James Rolfe it was Ghostbusters 2016 no review I refuse. Everyone lost their **** when he posted that.
I remember this. The whole reaction, or rather, overreaction, was shameful and horrid.
People were proclaiming that they guy is sexist, racist and who knows what else, while he just didn't want to watch something not to his taste. It was one of the breaking points where I have started to see what really lefties are about.

[Vegita-San]

I remember this. The whole reaction, or rather, overreaction, was shameful and horrid.
People were proclaiming that they guy is sexist, racist and who knows what else, while he just didn't want to watch something not to his taste. It was one of the breaking points where I have started to see what really lefties are about.

kind of the same way. I just couldn't believe there where so many crazy people out there that felt that way about someone NOT wanting to watch a movie, that it made me want to look more into it. I kind of regret it, as I'm NOT A political person at heart. but it is fascinating in kind of a sad way to see what makes one person act like that, and the various simple things it'll take to see someone turn into acting like that.

sometimes all it takes is someone disagreeing with you about a topic, and boom, the crazy switch is flipped. and all the reactions are pretty universal too. like a genetically linked disease.

[Andrew NDB]

They're almost undoubtedly going to miss their 2019 date (which was probably made up to begin with), but here's Aykroyd... still saying they're doing Ghostbusters 3:

http://ghostbustersnews.com/2018/11/14/new-ghostbusters-being-written-right-now-will-reunite-original-cast-says-dan-aykroyd/?fbclid=IwAR2BoZfGu9o_XwknhlB0a8mnrwsCibT0rcoB5irL KI3xDI2RZCTy_8T5fck

[Vegita-San]

dan has gone bye bye..what have you got left?

[Anarchistguy]

Sorry, Vegita-San, I'm terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

The reason I actually believe Dan this time about the sequel?

Because Bill Murray was the reason 3 was held up all these years, and now he's lost his veto. Murray can't stop it any more. :lol:

[TigerClaw]

The reason I actually believe Dan this time about the sequel?

Because Bill Murray was the reason 3 was held up all these years, and now he's lost his veto. Murray can't stop it any more. :lol:
I think he didn't like the script for GB3 originally and thought it was bad.

Maybe he had a bad experiences working on these movies and he doesn't want any part of them. Everyone else seems down for making another one except him.

I remember that they had to talk him into doing the Ghostbusters video game years ago.

[Leo656]

The "official" story has long been that Murray was one of the people who overreacted to how "bad" Ghostbusters II supposedly was, which made him swear off sequels in general for the longest time, and another Ghostbusters sequel specifically.

The fact that he really hates GBII, and refused to do GBIII, and yet, was okay with doing that abomination reboot, has made me lose a little respect for him, and also question his judgment. We could've had something great, and he screwed it up, and instead we got something terrible, and he endorsed it. Very frustrating.

[ProactiveMan]

The "official" story has long been that Murray was one of the people who overreacted to how "bad" Ghostbusters II supposedly was, which made him swear off sequels in general for the longest time, and another Ghostbusters sequel specifically.

The fact that he really hates GBII, and refused to do GBIII, and yet, was okay with doing that abomination reboot, has made me lose a little respect for him, and also question his judgment. We could've had something great, and he screwed it up, and instead we got something terrible, and he endorsed it. Very frustrating.

I don't think he wanted to do the reboot either. If you followed the 'Sony hack' email leaks at the time, there was some suggestion of coercion on Sony's part. There was a vague threat of a lawsuit if Murray didn't play along; like they had some kind of card up there sleeve that they could pay if he caused any trouble.

[Andrew NDB]

The reason I actually believe Dan this time about the sequel?

Because Bill Murray was the reason 3 was held up all these years, and now he's lost his veto. Murray can't stop it any more. :lol:

Wait, how has he lost his veto? Did that just apply to a third movie -- any movie -- which ended up being Feigbusters?

The reason I actually believe Dan this time about the sequel?

I think he didn't like the script for GB3 originally and thought it was bad.

I'm assuming you're talking about Bill now.

Maybe he had a bad experiences working on these movies and he doesn't want any part of them. Everyone else seems down for making another one except him.

I remember that they had to talk him into doing the Ghostbusters video game years ago.

Murray never outright shot down the possibility of him doing GB3. I think at a certain point he got sick of being asked about it. He always entertained all of Aykroyd's scripts... he just never signed onto any of them. I don't discount the possibility of all of the Aykroyd scripts being bad, but I doubt Bill was particularly helpful about things either in trying to help steer him in the right direction.

The "official" story has long been that Murray was one of the people who overreacted to how "bad" Ghostbusters II supposedly was, which made him swear off sequels in general for the longest time, and another Ghostbusters sequel specifically.

The fact that he really hates GBII, and refused to do GBIII, and yet, was okay with doing that abomination reboot, has made me lose a little respect for him, and also question his judgment. We could've had something great, and he screwed it up, and instead we got something terrible, and he endorsed it. Very frustrating.

I don't think he wanted to do the reboot either. If you followed the 'Sony hack' email leaks at the time, there was some suggestion of coercion on Sony's part. There was a vague threat of a lawsuit if Murray didn't play along; like they had some kind of card up there sleeve that they could pay if he caused any trouble.

Very true. And it can't be coincidence that Bill's grudging agreement to cameo in FeigBusters amounted to just him entering the scene, immediately sitting in a chair for the duration of the scene and then quickly dying.

We don't really know where Bill's head is at after the Feig movie and it's failure. Maybe he even feels a little bit responsible for that, in a roundabout way. Would there be enough to counteract everything in the past enough to do one more movie in the hope of redeeming things/turning things around, and now even the loss of Ramis? I dunno. I hope so, but I dunno.

[Wildcat]

As far as I saw the only “catch” was that Bill Murray could only refuse 1 more time, I think, and his rights would either be given up or they could just go on without him. I don’t think they were actually going to sue him. That’s ridiculous.

Unless someone links me directly to an email or article specifically stating or implying that. I’ve tried to keep up with every single update over the years.

Anyway I really hate when Ghostbusters get brought up now. It’s just fuel for people to continue to hate on the reboot, which was just ok at worst, and argue over how the franchise should or shouldn’t go on.

I’ve seriously read and been in multiple discussions since like 2006. Some are fine and just want a proper passing-of-the-torch style movie (which is what I wanted) and of course there’s always the hardcore naysayers just shooting down every idea.

It’s one of the worst fanbases around. Regardless of the 2016 movie. Bill Murray is partially to blame because the more time passed the more stubborn and critical certain fans grew and started taking sides.

Ghostbusters should have had at least 5 movies by now and grown to the level of other sci-fi franchises.

[TigerClaw]

The only way to do Ghostbusters 3. Is if they introduce a new generation. Have the original Ghosbusters who are alive show up to pass the torch. And then move on from there.

That's what I'm hearing about in regards to the script for GB3. They want Oscar. The baby from GB2 all grown up and taking over the Ghostbusters.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Wait, how has he lost his veto? Did that just apply to a third movie -- any movie -- which ended up being Feigbusters?



I'm assuming you're talking about Bill now.



Murray never outright shot down the possibility of him doing GB3. I think at a certain point he got sick of being asked about it. He always entertained all of Aykroyd's scripts... he just never signed onto any of them. I don't discount the possibility of all of the Aykroyd scripts being bad, but I doubt Bill was particularly helpful about things either in trying to help steer him in the right direction.





Very true. And it can't be coincidence that Bill's grudging agreement to cameo in FeigBusters amounted to just him entering the scene, immediately sitting in a chair for the duration of the scene and then quickly dying.

We don't really know where Bill's head is at after the Feig movie and it's failure. Maybe he even feels a little bit responsible for that, in a roundabout way. Would there be enough to counteract everything in the past enough to do one more movie in the hope of redeeming things/turning things around, and now even the loss of Ramis? I dunno. I hope so, but I dunno.

After Harold Ramis's death, Amy Pascal and Sony got the remaining ghost busters actors and Ivan Riteman to each sign over their creative control/stake to the franchise in exchange for large payouts (and Riteman becoming the head of ghost corps.) so they could move ahead with thier plans with a GB movie franchise/universe. If they wanted to do a GB3 without Murray, he is now powerless to stop them.

[Andrew NDB]

That's what I'm hearing about in regards to the script for GB3. They want Oscar. The baby from GB2 all grown up and taking over the Ghostbusters.

Meaningless. There's been like 4 scripts that've involved Oscar.

[Leo656]

To paraphrase Marsellus Wallace... the Ghostbusters reboot was "Pretty F*CKING far from 'Okay'."

It's not even a good movie if you completely ignore the original films.

[Andrew NDB]

To paraphrase Marsellus Wallace... the Ghostbusters reboot was "Pretty F*CKING far from 'Okay'."

It's not even a good movie if you completely ignore the original films.

Are you writing that from your parents' basement? You misogynistic man-child!

[Leo656]

:lol: From work, as it's a relatively slow day. But also why I cut that reply short. :trazz:

It's legit one of the all-time worst movies I've ever seen. Biting off the name of a successful and popular movie is about the only "positive" it has. It's marketed as a "comedy", but it is PAINFULLY not funny. Visually, it's terrible. The colors are needlessly over-saturated to the point where it literally bleeds color; between that and the terrible CGI, the thing could pass as a Scooby-Doo cartoon better than it could anything else. And the entire cast was f*cking dreadful. Part of it could easily be blamed on the writing - which was atrocious - but some of these people are actors who I'm not familiar with; after seeing this film, I can safely say I NEVER want to watch any of them in anything again, ever. Even Chris Hemsworth; liked him enough as Thor, but my goodwill for him completely dried up after seeing this sh*t.

Luckily, these people seemingly go out of their way to make movies I'd rather die than sit through, so I probably don't have to worry about much.

There's SO much bad about it, separate from how it ruined the Ghostbusters franchise. Even ASIDE from that it's a horrible, stupid, pointless movie that isn't funny, looks like sh*t, and actively grates on the nerves of any normal person. The fact that it ALSO ruins Ghostbusters is just a bonus.

The only people I've met in real life who had anything positive to say were generally of the man-hating/"Grrl Power" persuasion, and they wouldn't care at all about the movie's quality so long as it pushed the "correct" social agenda.

Like the BayTurtles movies, it's undeniably a piece of sh*t with no redeeming value, EXCEPT to those who love their Brand Name Stickers so much that they'll accept anything. But it's definitely not "okay". Nothing about it is okay. Remove "Ghostbusters" from the equation and it's STILL a sh*t movie; the logo is the only thing that gives it a .0001% value so as not to be completely worthless altogether.

[Autbot_Benz]

Akroyd blames Feig for the 2016 movie for failing because he didn't listen to budget cuts

https://comicbook.com/movies/2018/11/16/dan-aykroyd-ghostbusters-female-reboot-isnt-getting-sequel/

"I was mad at him because he cost too much," explains Aykroyd. While the actor was hesitant to "slag a fellow artist," he ultimately said that things might have gone down differently if "it cost a little less". According to Aykroyd, Feig did not listen to budget suggestions, which was ultimately the movie's undoing.

[Leo656]

That's a super-old quote already. Also, nonsense.

If anything, the CGI may have been cut down to "acceptable" levels if they shot it with less money. If every single other thing was the same, it would still be terrible.

"Cost too much money" wasn't the problem. That shouldn't be the conversation. "Conceived in sin," "Made for all the wrong reasons", "Openly hostile towards pre-existing fans", "Slapped together without any competence or care"... those are the things they should be talking about.

There are lots of reasons this thing was in the $5 bin at Target less than a year after it came out; "They spent too much" was NOT one of those reasons.

[Andrew NDB]

The only way to do Ghostbusters 3. Is if they introduce a new generation. Have the original Ghosbusters who are alive show up to pass the torch. And then move on from there.

That's what I'm hearing about in regards to the script for GB3. They want Oscar. The baby from GB2 all grown up and taking over the Ghostbusters.

I don't really agree with the "GB3 needs to pass the torch!" crowd. I mean, it CAN, but does it need to? No matter how it ends up I'm sure we'll see younger comedic actors as supporting cast... but an actual torch passing? Why can't it be Ghostbusters' "Logan," or at least their version of "Grumpy Old Men"? These things can and have worked.

[Xav]

:There's SO much bad about it, separate from how it ruined the Ghostbusters franchise. Even ASIDE from that it's a horrible, stupid, pointless movie that isn't funny, looks like sh*t, and actively grates on the nerves of any normal person. The fact that it ALSO ruins Ghostbusters is just a bonus.I dunno but I don't see how the franchise is ruined after one bad movie. It's not like the other films don't exist.

[Wildcat]

:lol: From work, as it's a relatively slow day. But also why I cut that reply short. :trazz:

It's legit one of the all-time worst movies I've ever seen. Biting off the name of a successful and popular movie is about the only "positive" it has. It's marketed as a "comedy", but it is PAINFULLY not funny. Visually, it's terrible. The colors are needlessly over-saturated to the point where it literally bleeds color; between that and the terrible CGI, the thing could pass as a Scooby-Doo cartoon better than it could anything else. And the entire cast was f*cking dreadful. Part of it could easily be blamed on the writing - which was atrocious - but some of these people are actors who I'm not familiar with; after seeing this film, I can safely say I NEVER want to watch any of them in anything again, ever. Even Chris Hemsworth; liked him enough as Thor, but my goodwill for him completely dried up after seeing this sh*t.

Luckily, these people seemingly go out of their way to make movies I'd rather die than sit through, so I probably don't have to worry about much.

There's SO much bad about it, separate from how it ruined the Ghostbusters franchise. Even ASIDE from that it's a horrible, stupid, pointless movie that isn't funny, looks like sh*t, and actively grates on the nerves of any normal person. The fact that it ALSO ruins Ghostbusters is just a bonus.

The only people I've met in real life who had anything positive to say were generally of the man-hating/"Grrl Power" persuasion, and they wouldn't care at all about the movie's quality so long as it pushed the "correct" social agenda.

Like the BayTurtles movies, it's undeniably a piece of sh*t with no redeeming value, EXCEPT to those who love their Brand Name Stickers so much that they'll accept anything. But it's definitely not "okay". Nothing about it is okay. Remove "Ghostbusters" from the equation and it's STILL a sh*t movie; the logo is the only thing that gives it a .0001% value so as not to be completely worthless altogether.Sorry but that’s just extreme hyperbole. No movie is that awful. At least not mainstream movies.

I’ve actually seen some pretty fair criticism though. Some things I agree on. The humor is hit or miss. There’s too much improv moments. I know the original had some (don’t know how much) but you couldn’t tell so it seemed natural.

The plot is very generic. Although the original was kinda too I guess. It’s just disappointing that all 3 movies have had basically the same storyline.

Again the biggest thing it was so easy to make some continuation but Fieg insisted doing a reboot when the studio was going to let him do a sequel. Given the history of a third movie connecting them would have taken very little effort and would have meant more.

On its own I’d say the 2016 movie is a decent action/ghost movie. As part of the overall franchise it feels held back. I like it but I’m not satisfied.

No movie, or even 2, ruins a franchise. That would mean fans just stop liking whatever it is altogether, originals and all. That’s impossible.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

:lol: From work, as it's a relatively slow day. But also why I cut that reply short. :trazz:

It's legit one of the all-time worst movies I've ever seen. Biting off the name of a successful and popular movie is about the only "positive" it has. It's marketed as a "comedy", but it is PAINFULLY not funny. Visually, it's terrible. The colors are needlessly over-saturated to the point where it literally bleeds color; between that and the terrible CGI, the thing could pass as a Scooby-Doo cartoon better than it could anything else. And the entire cast was f*cking dreadful. Part of it could easily be blamed on the writing - which was atrocious - but some of these people are actors who I'm not familiar with; after seeing this film, I can safely say I NEVER want to watch any of them in anything again, ever. Even Chris Hemsworth; liked him enough as Thor, but my goodwill for him completely dried up after seeing this sh*t.

Luckily, these people seemingly go out of their way to make movies I'd rather die than sit through, so I probably don't have to worry about much.

There's SO much bad about it, separate from how it ruined the Ghostbusters franchise. Even ASIDE from that it's a horrible, stupid, pointless movie that isn't funny, looks like sh*t, and actively grates on the nerves of any normal person. The fact that it ALSO ruins Ghostbusters is just a bonus.

The only people I've met in real life who had anything positive to say were generally of the man-hating/"Grrl Power" persuasion, and they wouldn't care at all about the movie's quality so long as it pushed the "correct" social agenda.

Like the BayTurtles movies, it's undeniably a piece of sh*t with no redeeming value, EXCEPT to those who love their Brand Name Stickers so much that they'll accept anything. But it's definitely not "okay". Nothing about it is okay. Remove "Ghostbusters" from the equation and it's STILL a sh*t movie; the logo is the only thing that gives it a .0001% value so as not to be completely worthless altogether.

My thoughts exact! To call the latest GB film "okay" is an understatement.

[Leo656]

I dunno but I don't see how the franchise is ruined after one bad movie. It's not like the other films don't exist.

They're gonna have a MUCH harder time making anyone care going forward.

They can only re-release those movies in new collector's cases so many times. The reboot effectively killed off any goodwill for future projects. Nobody trusts the brand-holders anymore, nor should they.

No, the two good films aren't going anywhere, but they really need to keep developing new stuff if they want to maintain relevance. And they blew it.

[Vegita-San]

exactly. these movies ruin the good will of the originals, with attack on the fans, and all the other crap that comes with it.

it took me a long time before i could appreciate ghostbusters again,because i followed all the trashy stuff coming out of the new reboot too closely.

the good movies may be there, but your good will to them can be destroyed.

[TigerClaw]

They're gonna have a MUCH harder time making anyone care going forward.

They can only re-release those movies in new collector's cases so many times. The reboot effectively killed off any goodwill for future projects. Nobody trusts the brand-holders anymore, nor should they.

No, the two good films aren't going anywhere, but they really need to keep developing new stuff if they want to maintain relevance. And they blew it.
they recently launched a new mobile game called Ghostbusters World. Its like Pokemon Go. But you catch Ghosts.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

they recently launched a new mobile game called Ghostbusters World. Its like Pokemon Go. But you catch Ghosts.

I'm not sure that's really relevant to what he's saying.

[Coola Yagami]

I'm not sure that's really relevant to what he's saying.

I guess he means the GB franchise is still trickling along.

[Leo656]

I was gonna say, "Wake me up when that's a thing more than a few people know or care about." :lol:

It's like whenever I gripe about everything TMNT-related being lousy right now, and how bad that is for the long-term health of the brand, and people try and talk about the comics, and I'm like, "Dude, I've been a hardcore comic book guy for long enough to know that nobody but me and ten other people still read comic books." :lol:

For any brand to not just survive, but thrive, the MAIN stuff that people actually SEE has to be good; not just the peripheral stuff that only caters to the hardest of hardcores.

They can print comics nobody reads, and make mobile games that everyone forgets about in a week, and they can be solid gold and it won't make any difference. People only care about movies and TV; if your brand has a sh*tty presence in movies and TV, then your brand sucks.

They could have tried to market towards both the aging original fans and their kids; for some reason, they bet the entire farm on the "Angry Militant Feminists Living On Fanboy Tears" demographic, and apparently they don't care about Ghostbusters, because the movie didn't make any money.

It's whatever. By this point, so many things I liked as a child have gotten horrible reboots, I really don't want them to bring ANY of it back.

"Sometimes, dead is better." Apropos.

[Andrew NDB]

It's whatever. By this point, so many things I liked as a child have gotten horrible reboots, I really don't want them to bring ANY of it back.

"Sometimes, dead is better."

It's been a rough couple of years and the tally keeps going up. RIP to Star Wars, Star Trek, most of the DCEU, Alien, Predator, Independence Day.

We really need a win, at this point.

[Vegita-San]

It's whatever. By this point, so many things I liked as a child have gotten horrible reboots, I really don't want them to bring ANY of it back.

"Sometimes, dead is better." Apropos.

Bingo...

i'm just tired of all these SJW reboots. we need to get movies back to where they where even 10 years ago, never mind 15.

[Wildcat]

I can not believe that people still think the reboot was made for a PC demographic...further more I can’t believe I’m even replying to the subject again.

Hate the reboot if you must but anyone who takes the time to stop blindly hating stuff will see GB’16 is just another movie in a sea of movies.

The studio was going to let Paul Feig do a sequel. He chose to make it a reboot. You can search it. Granted the studio could have stepped in. Even so it’s in line with his other movies and casts.

It’s his style...not some PC thing. You wouldn’t say Tim Burton’s style is trying to force feed us gothic or however you wanna describe that. It’s just his way.

If people really wanted to make a statement they would have kept quiet and just let the reboot come and go like any other movie. Backlash was going to met with backlash. None of these arguments would have even happened.

So you’re that angry about it’s existence? Well you’ve cemented it in history with all the complaining. For better or worse GB’16 will always be remembered and hold some sort of status.

As for letting stuff die. That’s just stupid and not the first time I’ve seen it either. These franchises don’t deserve to stop just because of some people’s “never be good enough” mentality. That’s their problem.

[ZariusTwo]

These franchises don’t deserve to stop just because of some people’s “never be good enough” mentality. That’s their problem.

The creators of Back to the Future made it quite clear that there should never be a sequel/reboot of that trilogy, and whie we've had cartoons, video games, comics etc, which have been serviceable extensions of the franchise, they're also pretty niche. People aren't clamouring for anything more from those movies because they are just perfect when they're left very much alone and can easily pull in fresh generations without a need to upgrade to match whatever souless trend is going on in society.

For better or worse GB’16 will always be remembered and hold some sort of status.

Very much the same status as Wild Wild West, Batman and Robin, Speed 2 , Robocop 3, any Highlander sequel etc. Yeah, some prestige:roll:

[Wildcat]

The creators of Back to the Future made it quite clear that there should never be a sequel/reboot of that trilogy, and whie we've had cartoons, video games, comics etc, which have been serviceable extensions of the franchise, they're also pretty niche. People aren't clamouring for anything more from those movies because they are just perfect when they're left very much alone and can easily pull in fresh generations without a need to upgrade to match whatever souless trend is going on in society.Well agree to disagree. I don’t see any of the popular franchises just trying to match trends. Obviously brand recognition helps but it’s one of the questions I always ask myself...why is it ok for certain franchises to continue and others not?

Every version/sequel/installment/reboot can’t be great but that goes for all movies. It’s unfair to write specific ones off.

Very much the same status as Wild Wild West, Batman and Robin, Speed 2 , Robocop 3, any Highlander sequel etc. Yeah, some prestige:roll: I just meant everyone that made a huge issue over GB’16 only succeeded in keeping it relevant.

[Coola Yagami]

Well agree to disagree. I don’t see any of the popular franchises just trying to match trends. Obviously brand recognition helps but it’s one of the questions I always ask myself...why is it ok for certain franchises to continue and others not?



Because some stories are so perfect it's better to accept that it's perfect as is and that the story has beeb told and is completed.

Terminator 2 should have been it. Back to the Future is the perfect trilogy.

[Wildcat]

Because some stories are so perfect it's better to accept that it's perfect as is and that the story has beeb told and is completed.

Terminator 2 should have been it. Back to the Future is the perfect trilogy.I can see that for Back to the Future more than anything else. It was mainly Marty Mcfly’s adventure.

More can be done with Terminator and Ghostbusters though. Their subject matter is broad enough to have different storylines.

At least Terminator has had a fair amount of opportunities. Aside from the comics (which a lot of franchises have anyway) Ghostbusters has been stuck for decades.

[drgon78]

More could be done with Ghostbusters but Terminator should have ended with 2.

[The Deadman]

Jason Reitman to Direct Secret ‘Ghostbusters’ Movie

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/jason-reitman-ghostbusters-director-1203109264/

[Egon1982]

Personally i think the franchise died with Harold Ramis.

[Coola Yagami]

Is this real?

[Andrew NDB]

Is this real?

No, not real. That's making the rounds now but it's from where he accepted an award for Zombieland years ago, apparently.

[Coola Yagami]

No, not real. That's making the rounds now but it's from where he accepted an award for Zombieland years ago, apparently.

Aw damn! Lol