Ash Reunites With Old Friends In Pokemon TV Special

[ZariusTwo]

Ash is returning to Kanto for two episodes of the Sun and Moon series and will reunite with Misty and Brock.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/214953589422948352/351619846200623105/unknown.png

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Very excited! :)

Misty hasn't appeared since the Mirage Master Special and the last time I remember Brock appearing was at the end of the Sinnoh region.

[DestronMirage22]

The art on that poster looks kinda weird.
Has Pokemon really changed that much?

[Utrommaniac]

It's not that bad when seen in motion.

[sdp]

AshxMisty 4ever

[Redeemer]

You think Nintendo and Niantic would be able to fork over some more money for best animation design :lol:

[ranger_scout]

Ash is returning to Kanto for two episodes of the Sun and Moon series and will reunite with Misty and Brock.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/214953589422948352/351619846200623105/unknown.png

Awesome! :D I'm going to have to Tivo this.

AshxMisty 4ever

I wonder who she'll feel if she found out that Serena kissed him.

[sdp]

Serena was a 1 series fling, AxM have an on and off 'ship going. This will give shippers enough fuel for at least the whole Gen. Cubed am cry.

[Allio]

Big the biggest fan of the anime, but it's neat I suppose.

Granted best girl is Haruka

[snake]

Misty looks really off.

[MikeandRaph87]

Ash is returning to Kanto for two episodes of the Sun and Moon series and will reunite with Misty and Brock.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/214953589422948352/351619846200623105/unknown.png

I never would have thought that after that poor excuse for a reboot in the upcoming film. Sweet! When will this air on Cartoon Network?

[Powder]

Ah this is great! They look so cute in the new style, too.

[ZariusTwo]

I never would have thought that after that poor excuse for a reboot in the upcoming film. Sweet! When will this air on Cartoon Network?

How long does the dub usually take?

The Japanese versions air on Sept. 14 and Sept. 21 from what I can find on this

[MikeandRaph87]

How long does the dub usually take?

The Japanese versions air on Sept. 14 and Sept. 21 from what I can find on this

After seeing your post I found an episode guide. It seems to be three to four months. Perhaps it could have a special Christmas season airing because of the old school fans demand for it and Holiday period.

[PApagreg]

Its kinda weird how some characters look fine in the new artstyle( the Sun and Moon cast & Team Rocket) but others are more awkward looking

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Very excited to see this! To be honest, I actually like how they look in the new style, though it's pretty weird to see them go back to wearing their original clothing as opposed to what they wore the last time they appeared.

I never would have thought that after that poor excuse for a reboot in the upcoming film. Sweet! When will this air on Cartoon Network?

CN lost the rights to the anime. The Sun and Moon series now airs on Disney XD.

[MikeandRaph87]

Very excited to see this! To be honest, I actually like how they look in the new style, though it's pretty weird to see them go back to wearing their original clothing as opposed to what they wore the last time they appeared.



CN lost the rights to the anime. The Sun and Moon series now airs on Disney XD.

Really? First I have heard of this! I watched through "Hoenn Alone" where Misty and Brock had other obligations and did not follow Ash. It started on Cartoon Network at some point during Hoenn. I think around 2005 when the dub voice cast was dumped? I did not know Cartoon Network lost the rights.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Yeah, it just happened recently. I believe they have the rights to air all of the anime, if they wanted to.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Good to know they are not retconning them out of Pokemon history.

[ZariusTwo]

https://i.imgur.com/9pg8aee.jpg
(spoilered for size)

Also, apparently Jigglypuff will be in the special.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

https://i.imgur.com/9pg8aee.jpg
(spoilered for size)

Also, apparently Jigglypuff will be in the special.

Where did you find that image from?

Now, there's someone we also haven't seen for a long time. The memories!:tgrin:

[ranger_scout]

Here's a sneak-peak.

KL--HW2sj90

[MikeandRaph87]

Bulbasaur too!

Refresh me memory,what happened to Jigglypuff in Johoto?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Bulbasaur too!

Refresh me memory,what happened to Jigglypuff in Johoto?

I haven't seen the Pokemon anime in a long time but I believe Jigglypuff still followed Ash into Hoenn then appeared less and less till the point where it was completely absent.

[Coola Yagami]

I thought this was a reboot... so Ash already knows Misty and Brock somehow?

[dl316bh]

I thought this was a reboot... so Ash already knows Misty and Brock somehow?
The anime has never had a reboot. This is a special for the current Sun and Moon anime. If you mean the 20th anniversary retelling of the earliest adventure, that's it's own thing and not anime canon.

[Coola Yagami]

Hmmm, I thought after a while it had a reboot. The new art style definitely makes it seem like it's starting all over, but set in modern day.

[dl316bh]

Hmmm, I thought after a while it had a reboot. The new art style definitely makes it seem like it's starting all over, but set in modern day.
I think a reboot had been considered once or twice, but it's never happened. There's never really been a need, since they generally have a new region to have him explore and deal with by the time an arc is done. The art style is certainly different, though, but that's just the direction they decided to take Sun and Moon. It's why this is a big deal that these two are showing up. I don't think Misty has been seen at all since Hoenn and I don't know when Brock dropped out (I'd stopped watching at all somewhere during the Sinnoh stuff). They've been away a long time.

[ssjup81]

I have an excuse to watch something from this series! I still don't care for this art style and prefer that X/Y look or BW look, etc. since it seems so childish looking, but it should be interesting. Also, sucks the two don't have their later looks clothes wise. Can't wait to find out why Kasumi is there and how the gym is doing since her being there seemed like a surprise to Satoshi.

A few years ago, there was an interview with Matsumoto Rika and Iizuki Mayumi. Mayumi mentioned that she would definitely like to voice Kasumi again at some point. This is a nice 20th anniversary surprise.

As for shipping stuff...kinda doubt it'll have any personally, but I am saying this unfairly as I'm basing it on the animation style. For those watching, what's the tone of S/M like? Does Satoshi come across as more serious or childish compared to the multiple previous series? Would S/M Satoshi bat an eyelid if someone wanted to use the lure Kasumi gave him or would he get protective of it like he did with Hikari in D/P? Figured he didn't want to risk losing something given to him by a friend.

[Powder]

I wasn't big on the animation style myself until I watched an episode or two, & then I fell in love with it. It's really fun, & very clean aesthetically There's a much wider range of expressions, some of which being comically exaggerated to great effect. It may have a slightly more kid oriented look than before, but it hasn't become more childish or anything.

The tone is more or less consistent with past material, I guess? I'd say Ash is a little more mature, but not necessarily in that he's more serious, just less goofy, maybe. I'm a bit behind but at least in the first 20 episodes (that's as far as I've gotten so far) there hasn't been much of a "filler" feel yet, & it's different in that Ash isn't traveling a whole lot. His sight-seeing has all been local, there's a lot of getting to know his knew peers & whatnot. He's in school (I use that term lightly) sometimes too, which is unique to this season. If you like everything that came before this, you'll like this too. I for one am enjoying it more than the last few years of material, but Best Wishes was the last season I was really into, so my taste may be different than yours.

[ssjup81]

I wasn't big on the animation style myself until I watched an episode or two, & then I fell in love with it. It's really fun, & very clean aesthetically There's a much wider range of expressions, some of which being comically exaggerated to great effect. It may have a slightly more kid oriented look than before, but it hasn't become more childish or anything.

The tone is more or less consistent with past material, I guess? I'd say Ash is a little more mature, but not necessarily in that he's more serious, just less goofy, maybe. I'm a bit behind but at least in the first 20 episodes (that's as far as I've gotten so far) there hasn't been much of a "filler" feel yet, & it's different in that Ash isn't traveling a whole lot. His sight-seeing has all been local, there's a lot of getting to know his knew peers & whatnot. He's in school (I use that term lightly) sometimes too, which is unique to this season. If you like everything that came before this, you'll like this too. I for one am enjoying it more than the last few years of material, but Best Wishes was the last season I was really into, so my taste may be different than yours.That's interesting to know. The only Pokemon series I've seen all the way through are the first two (Kanto and Orange Islands). Stuff from the other series have been scattered. I didn't watch any of the X/Y stuff. The character of Serena kinda turned me off from it...and I wasn't big on the X/Y game. Sun and Moon I've yet to see any of...but was turned off by the animation style and I've yet to play the games.

I've seen some of Johto, Advance Generation, and Diamond and Pearl. Best Wishes brought me back into the series since I really liked the games...but I got bored after a while. Even Dento couldn't keep me interested and I really liked his character.

[Powder]

I've seen just about all of it in full except for the Ruby/Sapphire & X/Y seasons, as they weren't my cup of tea. Their respective games were my least favorites, but it was the Pokemon designs & Ash's companions that put me off mostly. So I feel ya.

Ok, well, I would suggest you play Sun & Moon, if you can afford to grab a copy. It's REALLY good. Some conventions are changed for the better, & there are a lot of new features that make it feel SO fresh. I had an absolute blast with it. This reminds me though, part of why I like the current season so much is because it's very close to the games, which is generally not the case. I played the game in full, & then started watching, & I appreciated it a whole lot being able to compare notes & see how characters I liked come across in animation.

Best Wishes brought me back in full at the time, too. B/W was so good & remains my favorite of the main games. I too got bored though, around the Meloetta arc. At least it didn't have all that stupid pageant crap from the Sinnoh seasons. Eugh! & hell yeah, Dento is the man! Funny ass character, whose companion is one of my all time favorite Pokemon. I really liked him & Iris. Ash's new friends are really enjoyable too, they're not as full of personality as those two, but they're not nearly as dull or annoying as Serena & those other kids. You've got the shy one, the accomplished one, the underdog, the cocky nerd, & a cool ass surfer scientist senpai. :tlol:

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I know this probably won't happen, but it would be downrightt hilarious in the special if Ash for some reason has to meet Professor Ivy and Brock is with him.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LKk0X6uhSwU

[ZariusTwo]

The Indigo Leauge is being released on DVD and Blu-Ray in the UK for the first time

https://twitter.com/MangaUK/status/907998865697263617

[ZariusTwo]

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[sdp]

Seeing Misty with a Belly button in her original outfit is so odd, it took me a long time to accept her crop shirt without a belly button as a kid but now it just looks odd

That swimming clip is great, I can't believe after all these years we finally got to see her official game outfit in the anime. Misty used various swimsuits with the red bikini being the one used the most but we never saw her with a blue one.

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Best Wishes brought me back in full at the time, too. B/W was so good & remains my favorite of the main games.

Awesome, I only ever watched the first two episodes and they were fine but have yet to check it out but I was afraid since BW is considered trash by most people but they were too emotionally attached to DP Ash and appearently he becomes a n00b in all of BW and the interesting "darker" TR goes away after the earthquake. BW is also the only gen that I've only played for a few hours and never more, unsure why, I own both BW and BW2 so I should give them a shot.

But to rank the anime:

Kanto: yes ash is a total n00b but the season isn't that long and it's so iconic/nostalgic, it's all around fun which other seasons have forgotten that even if improving on everything else. A classic.

Orange Islands: One of my favorites, super short but we got to see the anime peeps explore the anime world as they wanted and it gave us cool arcs and Ash becoming a good trainer.

Johto: Hated by fans, the first part is the worst but at the time it was alright since it was the "new" generation of Pokemon, the second part isn't that bad and the third part "Master Quest" as it was called in the dub is pretty cool even if Togepi did become annoying and Brock/Misty didn't do much and sure it isn't as good as Kanto.

Hoenn: The advance generation is definitely better written, it is missing some "fun" though, May's competitions were always boring. Overall even if it was a song as Johto it felt shorter since it was better written and finally saw Ash being decent.

Battle Frontier: Cool to see Ash be awesome and plow through, tons of missed opportunities with them revisiting Kanto though as it might as well been a new region and it wasn't as fun as Orange Islands but still cool anime filler. Sadly this was when the dub changed and I haven't been a fan of the Pokemon International dub, it's not as well written, still has the pointless 4Kids edits and the voice actors aren't as good even if by now they've done the dub for longer.

Sinnoh: It was too much like the Advanced seasons which is why it became boring to me but it is cool that we get to see Ash become even better by now, Dawn was alright and an improvement from May but at the same time she never became more than a "slight" improvement from May to differ enough so she'll always be in the shadow of May. The problem this season is it lacked the fun the original Kanto season had which slowly had died until we reached DP.

Unova: Like I mentioned I only watched the first two episodes, I think I'll definitely like it more than the fandom does since I tend to disagree a lot with the fans but who knows, I think I may like that it tried to go "back" to the original formula of being "fun" even if they nerfed Ash.

Kalos: Only watched a few episodes but it seemed to be an improvement in every way.

Alola: Watched the first two episodes, didn't like where they were going for nor the animation but hey at least they're trying something new.

Overall we need more season Arcs, it's boring to go straight into another league without some sort of break.

[Leofan26]

Awe yes, fan service for the young Pokemon viewers LOL, only with Anime. I thought Sun and Moon was supposed to be aimed at the younger audience, what? XD

I don't care how hated Tracey was by the fandom, he should still be mentioned, he was a big part of the series since Orange Islands, showing up in Chronicles all the time and cameos in the older series. He was always with Misty than suddenly he's not talked about? Or at least that's what viewers who watched the episode in subs said, guess I was right in not checking out the show and acting like it's not apart of the series.

[Allio]

apparently wearing a bathing suit constitutes as "fanservice" I mean...okay...that makes sense...if you were stupid maybe.

That's like saying anyone wearing a bathing suit in real life automatically makes it a sex thing.

[sdp]

Anime has always had fan service even in kids shows but the term fan service is thrown around a lot, especially in a negative sense. Bathing suits can be really obvious fan service or subtle, I mean it's only clothing. Tons of western shows have characters wearing bikinis, it's not meant to be taken that way even if it can. That is just Misty's outfit in the game, and I believe we see Brock shirtless doing his game pose as well in the next episode.


As far as Tracey, he got a lot of flack mostly because he was replacing Brock and "ruining" the original trio. We are now used to seeing the cast change but Tracey got all the hate for being the first one, ironically enough it was done to appeal more to western audiences. Sadly he's been forgotten, I don't see how he was a "big part of the series" after Orange Islands. Chronicles was an awesome way to give other characters the spotlight, sadly none of that worked out since we rarely get specials like that anymore. Featuring him in the openings is far from "being important" and with the cast of previous "main" characters growing gen after gen then it's obvious they would cut the fat, and non-game characters like him the first to go. I like him though

[MikeandRaph87]

https://youtu.be/NC1EidxqfJQ

This a rundown of all of Ash' s Pokemon which appear in the first part of the Kanto special.

[ssjup81]

I don't care how hated Tracey was by the fandom, he should still be mentioned, he was a big part of the series since Orange Islands, showing up in Chronicles all the time and cameos in the older series. He was always with Misty than suddenly he's not talked about? Or at least that's what viewers who watched the episode in subs said, guess I was right in not checking out the show and acting like it's not apart of the series.Not sure about "Tracey", but I really liked Kenji. :P He's one of my favorite characters from the series. I saw the recent Pokemon episode and was surprised that he wasn't in the episode since he was an assistant to Oak. Is he still one? Sucks people didn't like him much. I thought it was a nice change to have a guy with a different occupation and stuff as a traveling companion. My ideal traveling group was always him along with the other two. Brock would have someone his age to associate with and Ash would have someone his age to associate with.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Anime has always had fan service even in kids shows but the term fan service is thrown around a lot, especially in a negative sense. Bathing suits can be really obvious fan service or subtle, I mean it's only clothing. Tons of western shows have characters wearing bikinis, it's not meant to be taken that way even if it can. That is just Misty's outfit in the game, and I believe we see Brock shirtless doing his game pose as well in the next episode.


As far as Tracey, he got a lot of flack mostly because he was replacing Brock and "ruining" the original trio. We are now used to seeing the cast change but Tracey got all the hate for being the first one, ironically enough it was done to appeal more to western audiences. Sadly he's been forgotten, I don't see how he was a "big part of the series" after Orange Islands. Chronicles was an awesome way to give other characters the spotlight, sadly none of that worked out since we rarely get specials like that anymore. Featuring him in the openings is far from "being important" and with the cast of previous "main" characters growing gen after gen then it's obvious they would cut the fat, and non-game characters like him the first to go. I like him though

I agree, Tracey was a great character, and I wish they would do another Chronicles series, to catch up on some older characters. Would be cool to see what happened to Ritchie and sparky.

[CyberCubed]

The animation for the battles next ep look really good. This might actually be Misty's first good battle in the 20 years she existed. Misty was generally poor at battling throughout most of her run in the anime, to the point where she bombed or failed all her battles or had to rely on Psyduck's headache to save herself. Then in Johto she barely battles at all till the tail-end of the saga when she gets Poliwhirl/Corsola. Prior to Serena, Misty also did the least amount of battling of all the main girls in the show, so there are hardly any Misty battles to even go back and rewatch in the first place.

Brock also rarely ever battled in the anime, and when he did it was just to watch him lose. After he joins Ash, he literally loses every single battle he has on the cast for all of Kanto/Johto besides some TR blast-offs, and I'm pretty sure he loses all his battles in AG as well. I don't think Brock ever won a battle till he got Croagunk in DP.

This combined with the fact that the battles in general during Kanto/Johto were the weakest of the anime's entire history (as we know, most of Ash's battles back then were terrible too, he won most battles by luck), it is a shock to see Misty and Brock portrayed as competent battlers like they are in the games. It took 20 years, but Misty might have her first actual really good battle in the anime. For once Misty might not be considered the worst battler of the main girls.

[sdp]

I will be watching the Pokemon 20 I choose you movie, crazy. Even if I"m unhappy with the way they handled it, it's still going to be awesome. I haven't watched a Pokemon movie in theaters since Pokemon 2000, I'll also receive a TCG just like back in the day & a special Ash hat pikachu so that's cool.

[Allio]

Last movie I saw was the Master of Illusion Z film

[ZariusTwo]

So Ash was able to beat Misty in their battle. She was annoyed, but there was a lot of sweet and playful banter between them afterwards where she points out most of his badge earnings were often out of pity:lol:

[ranger_scout]

I watched the episode today. It was obviously really nice to see some familiar faces along with some classic Pokemon, especially Bulbasaur. I'm also glad that Misty and Brock's personalities are still the same. Pikachu's little reunion with Misty at the airport was very sweet. The Cerulean City Gym obviously went through some major reconstruction while Ash has been away.

[MikeandRaph87]

I watched the episode today. It was obviously really nice to see some familiar faces along with some classic Pokemon, especially Bulbasaur. I'm also glad that Misty and Brock's personalities are still the same. Pikachu's little reunion with Misty at the airport was very sweet. The Cerulean City Gym obviously went through some major reconstruction while Ash has been away.

When is it supposed to air? I have been waiting to see it even if I have to scour the net for the English dub!

[CyberCubed]

They both already aired. The english dub nowadays is quite poor, if you're looking for nostalgia none of the characters have the same voices in the 4kids one so they won't sound the same anyway. Just watch it or the Japanese one on youtube.

[MikeandRaph87]

They both already aired. The english dub nowadays is quite poor, if you're looking for nostalgia none of the characters have the same voices in the 4kids one so they won't sound the same anyway. Just watch it or the Japanese one on youtube.

I don't have any ways of getting information for when Pok'emon airs these days. The lack of chatter about it on here hurts in that department as well. Would a link to the episode's english dub be shared with me in a P.M?:)

[sdp]

I cannot stand these endless animes that will go on forever.

I really wish I could re-watch all of Pokemon but it's never going to happen, I watch episodes here and there when I get hyped and I try to watch a whole "generation" but it's impossible.

I'm dub only since when I watch I tend to multi task, I cannot devote all my attention to the show which is necessary when you watch a subbed show when you have a show that lasts as long as Pokemon.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I think the dub is pretty good at this point.

I get it, people like CyberCubed and I have been nostalgic for the 4Kids voices, but they have been gone for more than a decade, and the new voices have appeared more than the originals at this point.

I watched the episodes and they were awesome, both dub and sub. My favourite moments were Kiawe reacting to Kantonian Dugtrio and Ashs Pikachu vs Mistys Mega Gyarados.

[ZariusTwo]

Misty and Brock will be turning up again in the new season

https://comicbook.com/anime/2018/09/13/pokemon-anime-brock-misty-returns/

[CyberCubed]

It's likely just another 2-ep cameo in November to promote the new games. Ash is staying in Alola for the rest of the series. Likewise given Misty/Brock are all the way in the background on the poster behind the SM cast, it's obvious they won't be sticking around for long.

[sdp]

Cybersai am cry, I predicted this.

Nostalgia wins again

[ranger_scout]

Here is the poster confirming their return.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dm97ODjX0AEKgsT.jpg

https://comicbook.com/anime/2018/09/13/pokemon-anime-key-visual/

[ZariusTwo]

Brock and Misty will have outfits that fit the Aloa region

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ds1VW7bV4AYXgtn.jpg

[sdp]

There wasn't a theatrical release of the Power of Us movie in my area, I guess I'll have to wait for the video release in a month. I hated Pokemon I choose you (https://miscrave.com/articles/pokemon-i-choose-you) the movie but I heard good things about Everyone's Story so I'm willing to give it a try. Having these AU stories is more appealing than the generic "Ash finds this years mythical Pokemon" movie.

Haven't watched Sun and Moon, how is it? I don't like the art style but the direction looks like it could be fun. I'm glad Misty and Brock are returning, they really are the best of Ash's companions. Sure you can argue that Misty became boring in Johto and Brock was dead weight all of Sinnoh but they are still fun characters. I've liked May, Max, Dawn but i wouldn't say they're better.

[ZariusTwo]

So there was an interesting reference in the latest crossover episodes...Misty's sisters are back and are running the gym again, which means there's nothing to hold Misty in Kanto anymore. I think this was a backdoor way of leaving the door open for a long-term return to the cast in the next series or whenever the writers want to have Ash and Misty bump into each other again in another region at any given point really.

[The Great Saiyaman]

What I didn't like about how Brock and Misty were depicted here was that the both of them were talking about giving Ash the Gym badges out of pity.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/parody/images/8/85/Ash_Attacked_by_Brock%27s_Siblings.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20161108220157
Come on, Brock's little brothers and Sisters begged Ash not to defeat Brock at their fight in the Pewter City gym and Ash, seeing what Brock did to provide for them and having a keen sense of honor, complied with their wishes. In the end Brock gave Ash the badge to thank him.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/pokemon/images/5/58/IL007-_The_Water_Flowers_of_Cerulean_City_20.png/revision/latest?cb=20111102185418
Ash' fight against Misty in the Cerulean City gym was interrupted by Team Rocket, who wanted to raid the Gym. Ash helped to chase Team Rocket off and Misty and her sisters gave him the badge, again as a token of their gratitude.

Come on, couldn't the script writers look up the actual episodes and see how it really happened before they made Brock and Misty behave mean towards Ash?

[Voltron]

This is a big reason why I stopped watching the show. The gym battles were few and far between, and the gym battles were usually ho-hum events that centered around Ash winning a badge in unconventional ways.

He did the same thing with Erika and Sabrina, if I remember right.

[MikeandRaph87]

When will the Aloa episode (s) featurimg Misty and Brock be available dubed?

[MikeandRaph87]

This is a big reason why I stopped watching the show. The gym battles were few and far between, and the gym battles were usually ho-hum events that centered around Ash winning a badge in unconventional ways.

He did the same thing with Erika and Sabrina, if I remember right.

Remember how in Kanto every gym was destroyed during Ash's visit?

[Allio]

What I didn't like about how Brock and Misty were depicted here was that the both of them were talking about giving Ash the Gym badges out of pity.


that was even something Misty was saying in her seasons as a companion.

[The Great Saiyaman]

Anime has always had fan service even in kids shows but the term fan service is thrown around a lot, especially in a negative sense. Bathing suits can be really obvious fan service or subtle, I mean it's only clothing. Tons of western shows have characters wearing bikinis, it's not meant to be taken that way even if it can. That is just Misty's outfit in the game, and I believe we see Brock shirtless doing his game pose as well in the next episode.

Heh, it's actually not the Pokémon Anime that has the most fan service, although got got pretty racy at times.
http://i.imgur.com/QRahrvn.jpg
There's a good reason WHY the episode from which this came was banned...

But the Pokémon Manga was actually way worse.
http://i.imgur.com/4BpSL.jpg
And if you think Misty looking the way she did in the uncut version of the manga, wasn't outrageous enough...

...Check out Jessie...

When the Manga was translated, Misty and Jessie were given enlarged skirts and tops and Jessie also got a breast reduction.

[neatoman]

...Check out Jessie...

When the Manga was translated, Misty and Jessie were given enlarged skirts and tops and Jessie also got a breast reduction.

https://ci.memecdn.com/1960581.gif

[Allio]

When the Manga was translated, Misty and Jessie were given enlarged skirts and tops and Jessie also got a breast reduction.

the editing of the manga was really jarring, like you could tell from first glance that there was something wrong.

It's like how in Pokemon special, the pokeboobs censorship looked awful and off putting. Though the censorship gave us Norman being faster than lightning because adults can't hit kids.

[sdp]

I remember buying as a kid the Electric Tail of Pikachu manga and not everything was completely censored, it wasn't until the re-prints that they censored it. Some characters still had huge boobs and hooker outfits in the first print, I had no idea it was edited but I did wonder why Jessie had boobs in some panels and completely flat in others. I was also confused by the continuity errors caused by the edits since they released some stories before others making a mess of the continuity. But yeah that manga was my first view of the Pokemon world not counting the games I think and sadly nothing has compared to it since :lol:

This is a big reason why I stopped watching the show. The gym battles were few and far between, and the gym battles were usually ho-hum events that centered around Ash winning a badge in unconventional ways.

He did the same thing with Erika and Sabrina, if I remember right.
This misconception goes back to 1999... He only got some badges in kanto that he didn't really earn, like half of them but every other generation he has gotten the badges legitimately.

So there was an interesting reference in the latest crossover episodes...Misty's sisters are back and are running the gym again, which means there's nothing to hold Misty in Kanto anymore. I think this was a backdoor way of leaving the door open for a long-term return to the cast in the next series or whenever the writers want to have Ash and Misty bump into each other again in another region at any given point really.

What about Brock? No mention if he also isn't in Pewter's Gym?

I'm not sure if they'd actually bring Misty back, she'd be great and is easily the most popular Pokemon girl, when I worked Pokemon TCG events little girls still liked Misty the best and this was when D/P was airing, but a new girl has always been popular among fans and kids as well. I'd be fine if she returned or if we get a new girl as long as she isn't lame like Iris. Brock should never return, I love him but we've had enough Brock, these small comebacks are enough for him.

What I didn't like about how Brock and Misty were depicted here was that the both of them were talking about giving Ash the Gym badges out of pity.

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Come on, Brock's little brothers and Sisters begged Ash not to defeat Brock at their fight in the Pewter City gym and Ash, seeing what Brock did to provide for them and having a keen sense of honor, complied with their wishes. In the end Brock gave Ash the badge to thank him.

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Ash' fight against Misty in the Cerulean City gym was interrupted by Team Rocket, who wanted to raid the Gym. Ash helped to chase Team Rocket off and Misty and her sisters gave him the badge, again as a token of their gratitude.

Come on, couldn't the script writers look up the actual episodes and see how it really happened before they made Brock and Misty behave mean towards Ash?

I think that was more of the writers taking a jab at Kanto Ash not earning all his badges through normal battles, which many people still believe he didn't earn any at all and an excuse to show Misty/Brock battling as gym leaders on screen. Or maybe they just didn't remember, I mean this is an anime where they have tons of opportunities to do cool stuff but never do, so many characters could've returned for problem of the week episodes or re-visited places when Ash was in Kanto again for the Battle Frontier, Iris returning in XY, the GS ball, etc.

[ZariusTwo]

Come on, couldn't the script writers look up the actual episodes and see how it really happened before they made Brock and Misty behave mean towards Ash?

I interpreted the whole "pity" thing as just the two giving a good friend a rib

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I interpreted the whole "pity" thing as just the two giving a good friend a rib

Me too.

Having Brock and Misty appear multiple times in the Sun and Moon series pretty exciting. It makes up for the missed opportunity of not having them in the rebooted movies (I choose you and the Power of Us).

I hope Serena appears in Alola sometime. Also, With Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire being so important during the sixth generation of pokemon, I'm surprised that May didn't make an appearance in Kalos, or Iris, who would've continued the tradition of Pokegirls coming to visit Ash and friends in the series following their own.

[MikeandRaph87]

There is the two parter which show Nrock and Misty giving battle demonstrations against Ash. When do they appear again or has it not aired yet?

[CyberCubed]

There is the two parter which show Nrock and Misty giving battle demonstrations against Ash. When do they appear again or has it not aired yet?

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Misty/Brock appeared in a 2-parter in 2017, and now another 2-parter. The Mega evo battles happened last year, Ash beat Misty's Mega Gyarados with Pikachu, so now Ash has a huge official win over her with her strongest pokemon. Brock battled Kiawe.

This was Misty's only return in 12 years since way back in her old AG cameos from 2005. That being said outside the battle eps, don't expect that much out of these eps other than Misty visiting Alola or Brock flirting with Olivia one of the SM characters. They're mostly just fun filler-ish episodes with not much plot points.

[MikeandRaph87]

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Misty/Brock appeared in a 2-parter in 2017, and now another 2-parter. The Mega evo battles happened last year, Ash beat Misty's Mega Gyarados with Pikachu, so now Ash has a huge official win over her with her strongest pokemon. Brock battled Kiawe.

This was Misty's only return in 12 years since way back in her old AG cameos from 2005. That being said outside the battle eps, don't expect that much out of these eps other than Misty visiting Alola or Brock flirting with Olivia one of the SM characters. They're mostly just fun filler-ish episodes with not much plot points.

I was trying to find out if the second return happened yet and if so if it had been dubbed. I take it the second return after the two parter from late 2017 has yet to air in either area, just announced.

[ZariusTwo]

I was trying to find out if the second return happened yet and if so if it had been dubbed. I take it the second return after the two parter from late 2017 has yet to air in either area, just announced.

The first part of the new two-parter recently aired, that's why I bumped the thread back up in the first place to talk about the "backdoor" they wrote in to possibly keep using Misty for later guest appearances in other regions.

[MikeandRaph87]

The first part of the new two-parter recently aired, that's why I bumped the thread back up in the first place to talk about the "backdoor" they wrote in to possibly keep using Misty for later guest appearances in other regions.

Thanks for clarifying! Aired just in Japan or English Dub? If it has been dubbed I would like to look it up. What is the episode title? I am that crazy guy who loves Dick Grayson and Barbara Gordon more than Bruce Wayne and the same applies for Brock and Misty over Ash.

[ZariusTwo]

Thanks for clarifying! Aired just in Japan or English Dub?

Aired just in Japan for the moment

[ranger_scout]

I'm hoping that they will continue to make more appearances in future seasons.

[sdp]

The writers don't care much about what they do with the series so don't look too much into it since they always miss opportunities of bringing back characters or easy ways to make plotlines more interesting. If we didn't see May return for ORAS or Iris because she was the previous Gen Pokegirl same with Serena means they rather create a boring filler character than anything else. I'm sure Misty will return eventually but that explanation doesn't mean much about Misty returning, she's popular but they love to have new fan service girl every gen.

This was Misty's only return in 12 years since way back in her old AG cameos from 2005.

You love underselling the popularity of Misty :lol: Those were not cameos but full blown appearances and it was in 2006 when she got to star next to Ash in the special meant to phase in the new voice actors and they chose her because of her popularity. After that she's made plenty of appearances as cameos in every generation even if non-speaking either in the background or even as flash backs.

[ZariusTwo]

And so the latest crossover has concluded

Misty no longer thinks running her sisters' gym is all that bad, and she intends to make it world famous...Misty desiring to be a master gym leader is perfect synergy with Ash's desire to master all Pokemon:D

[Allio]

So just saw I chooe you and Everyone's story/Power of Us. I really wish Pokemon movies had some fansubs, it seems like it takes a few years for Pocket Monsters subs to get to them...but anyways.

I Choose You:
It's...what I expected? some elements I liked and some I didn't. While I didn't care much when it forced in remakes of certain scenes (outside of the obvious Bye Bye Butterfree was the pokemon even needed) but I actually liked that they actually devolped Charmanders' old trainer and made him reocurring and actually made me wish he was more than a one off episode.

Outside of that...it was hit or miss. The voice acting wasn't really that good.

Everyone's Story/Power of Us:

Wow, much more better than I choose you and I haven't enjoyed a pokemon film in so long. Kind of a weird situation where if you didn't know that it was a sequel to I choose you, you wouldn't know it. Could be for better or worse.

Honestly the voice acting here was much better.

Actually, if Mewtwo Evolution is more Power of Us and less I Choose you, I honestly would feel kind of hype for it. Been enjoying this Satoshi then I have with the tv version since 3rd gen.

Also Lisa...possibly top Pokemon human waifu.

[sdp]

I thought I had replied to this thread but anyway here is MiscRave's review of Pokemon the power of us / everyone's story (https://miscrave.com/articles/pokemon-the-power-of-us/), I mostly liked it unlike I choose you (https://miscrave.com/articles/pokemon-i-choose-you/) reboot.

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We have a trailer of Mewtwo strikes back evolution and it seems to be a 1:1 remake of the original film which I"m not crazy for, I hope there's some new stuff in it, I kind of wanted Togepi less Misty, maybe no Misty/Brock, no pokemon clones, different Ash. I'm guessing we'll see a Gen 8 mythical though so it won't be exactly 1:1.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

While I was personally looking forward to this film being 2D and set in the "I choose you" continuity, I am neverthless excited with the direction its going.

The origin involving Amber better be in the Western theatrical release this time.

[neatoman]

I thought I had replied to this thread but anyway here is MiscRave's review of Pokemon the power of us / everyone's story (https://miscrave.com/articles/pokemon-the-power-of-us/), I mostly liked it unlike I choose you (https://miscrave.com/articles/pokemon-i-choose-you/) reboot.

6fG6NaZA2P8

We have a trailer of Mewtwo strikes back evolution and it seems to be a 1:1 remake of the original film which I"m not crazy for, I hope there's some new stuff in it, I kind of wanted Togepi less Misty, maybe no Misty/Brock, no pokemon clones, different Ash. I'm guessing we'll see a Gen 8 mythical though so it won't be exactly 1:1.

Why does nearly all CGI anime look terrible? This looks only slightly better than Jimmy Neutron from 18 years ago, I'd even argue the 2012 TMNT cartoon made for TV looks a little better than this.

[ZariusTwo]

I can't wait to play this on the Gamecube :)

[CyberCubed]

CG animation on the humans especially looks terrible. If this is a 1:1 remake with no changes or new scenes...what's the point? People can just watch the original from 1998 with better animation.

I would have prefered another alternate universe take like the last two movies, or even a Sun/Moon movie. Kind of surprising the Sun/Moon anime cast is going to be the first gen without any movie at all.