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Bahamut810
01-09-2024, 10:46 PM
Question for you and Bahamut..how do you think it compares to Western superhero stuff? I know the creator is inspired by Spider-Man. I remember thinking it is similar to the aforementioned One Punch Man with the classes and grades of heroes etc.

Apparently the best stuff comes in the later seasons (might be wrong but I heard that) so looking forward to starting it again on Funimation and getting to those parts. I haven't watched it since 2020 (dropping a show and starting new stuff is a terrible habit I have) so I'd need to start from the beginning again.

I think that it is what Western Hero comics used to be? Since the bit todo (tm) I started collecting different things like comics and various anime/manga memorabilia/manga.

I honestly gave multiple American comics a try but I couldn't get into most of them. There was either just way too much involved with a title (Marvel or DC and their interconnected comic lines), badly written (one of the first titles I started picking up when I got serious about collecting was Roarchach which was stupid and horrible), or just cringe (when I tried to pick up Teen Titans Academy).

Right now when it comes to American stuff I am reading Rogue Sun, Barbaric, Gargoyles and TMNT. Most of them really recently started...not big huge universes where they can try to milk you out of every dime...and more then not not cringe and preachy. I almost dropped TMNT but I have an addictive personality so I stuck with it longer then I should have which was ok (I keep looking forward to the next few issues so that we can get to the next big thing...the pre 100 kept me hoping that Sophie would either get done or get better at writing TMNT).

Anime and Manga really seems to fill a niche that, when I talk to people who were fans of comics 10 or 20 years ago, western comics used to fill. The stories are set up to be original enough to seem fresh. People are moral and heroes, they just want to do good. They don't want to preach to you about how you are a horrible racist for existing and can actually weave lessions about how bad things are bad into the story. I felt bad recently. I have LCS that I get my stuff from that has been seeing less and less of my money because trying new comics is just not appealing with how many times I have spend $5 for a story I cant care about. I had to ask them if they could get manga for me which is something they didn't want to get into...but money is money.

The Inventive Donatello
01-09-2024, 10:57 PM
I think that it is what Western Hero comics used to be? Since the bit todo (tm) I started collecting different things like comics and various anime/manga memorabilia/manga.

I honestly gave multiple American comics a try but I couldn't get into most of them. There was either just way too much involved with a title (Marvel or DC and their interconnected comic lines), badly written (one of the first titles I started picking up when I got serious about collecting was Roarchach which was stupid and horrible), or just cringe (when I tried to pick up Teen Titans Academy).

Right now when it comes to American stuff I am reading Rogue Sun, Barbaric, Gargoyles and TMNT. Most of them really recently started...not big huge universes where they can try to milk you out of every dime...and more then not not cringe and preachy. I almost dropped TMNT but I have an addictive personality so I stuck with it longer then I should have which was ok (I keep looking forward to the next few issues so that we can get to the next big thing...the pre 100 kept me hoping that Sophie would either get done or get better at writing TMNT).

Anime and Manga really seems to fill a niche that, when I talk to people who were fans of comics 10 or 20 years ago, western comics used to fill. The stories are set up to be original enough to seem fresh. People are moral and heroes, they just want to do good. They don't want to preach to you about how you are a horrible racist for existing and can actually weave lessions about how bad things are bad into the story. I felt bad recently. I have LCS that I get my stuff from that has been seeing less and less of my money because trying new comics is just not appealing with how many times I have spend $5 for a story I cant care about. I had to ask them if they could get manga for me which is something they didn't want to get into...but money is money.

Gargoyles is a great cartoon.

The first 100 issues and their minis are the best stuff for IDW TMNT, I agree. Mirage and Image are really good too.

I agree that all the interconnectivity of Marvel and DC can be a turn off. What about Invincible? I have read most of that and it is really good. It is a continuous story with what appears to be a beginning, middle and end. No tie-ins etc for the most part. You have also got stuff like Irredeemable/Incorruptible and Radiant Black from independent publishers, some of which I have read and is quite good.

Then you could try alternative universes such as Ultimate Spider-Man in Marvel or Elseworlds stuff from DC.

It sounds like manga superhero stuff is free of a lot of political stuff, which I agree is best. I don't like to see that sort of stuff generally, whether it is for or against my beliefs. I'd agree from watching the first two seasons of MHA that there isn't much of a political agenda going on and it's simply fun, good stories. I have forgotten what the main evil group is called (league of something?) but I always like stuff like that, where one group goes up against another such as various respective heroes going up against Sinister Six or Secret Society or Thanos or Darkseid or whatever. I enjoy solo heroes and villains but I like the group stuff too. From what i watched of MHA it is big on group or macro events with the classes and schools of superhero and the league of villains or whatever it is called (while still including one-on-one stuff) and that appeals.

Bahamut810
01-09-2024, 11:22 PM
Gargoyles is a great cartoon.

The comic is good too! It just started and its a continuation of seasons 1 and 2 after the plan for season 3 that never happened (after brooklyn gets a wife and kid for REASONS I dont spoil). They also have a prequel they have started that is what happened before the Castle was built.

I agree that all the interconnectivity of Marvel and DC can be a turn off. What about Invincible? I have read most of that and it is really good. It is a continuous story with what appears to be a beginning, middle and end. No tie-ins etc for the most part. You have also got stuff like Irredeemable/Incorruptible and Radiant Black from independent publishers, some of which I have read and is quite good.

I meant to start looking for Invincible omnibuses now that the show is starting to die off. I liked the show (as long as you remove Amber) so I thought i would give it a shot...just need to find the stuff to read. Having ended is a big plus for me, that way I dont have to work about it jumping the shark while I get invested in it (like TMNT did).

I dont know anything about Irredeemable/Incorruptible but I was getting Radiant Black for a while. I had it on my pull list along with Rogue Sun after the big Crossover comic they did. I loved the art for it but I just didnt like the main character. I took it off my list when I had three of them sitting in my to-read pile and started putting other titles on top of it.

I forgot Grim! Grim is pretty cool too! Much more of a supernatural action genre.

It sounds like manga superhero stuff is free of a lot of political stuff, which I agree is best. I don't like to see that sort of stuff generally, whether it is for or against my beliefs. I'd agree from watching the first two seasons of MHA that there isn't much of a political agenda going on and it's simply fun, good stories. I have forgotten what the main evil group is called (league of something?) but I always like stuff like that, where one group goes up against another such as various respective heroes going up against Sinister Six or Secret Society or Thanos or Darkseid or whatever. I enjoy solo heroes and villains but I like the group stuff too. From what i watched of MHA it is big on group or macro events with the classes and schools of superhero and the league of villains or whatever it is called (while still including one-on-one stuff) and that appeals.

It is pretty free of Western Political stuff, and is rarely preachy about that sort of thing. There is actually a big todo going on right now where localizers (people who take translations and try to make them more normal for other languages) are getting majorly crapped on because there are times when they are inserting political stuff into stories. They are getting mad because its being tested with a very popular Manga (Frieren Journeys end which is *AMAZING*) is being simo-released in english and japanese using AI translations. With their jobs in jeopardy they are complaining on X and are getting lambasted because fans don't go to manga for american politics.

And they are called the League of Villians

The Inventive Donatello
01-09-2024, 11:41 PM
The comic is good too! It just started and its a continuation of seasons 1 and 2 after the plan for season 3 that never happened (after brooklyn gets a wife and kid for REASONS I dont spoil). They also have a prequel they have started that is what happened before the Castle was built.



I meant to start looking for Invincible omnibuses now that the show is starting to die off. I liked the show (as long as you remove Amber) so I thought i would give it a shot...just need to find the stuff to read. Having ended is a big plus for me, that way I dont have to work about it jumping the shark while I get invested in it (like TMNT did).

I dont know anything about Irredeemable/Incorruptible but I was getting Radiant Black for a while. I had it on my pull list along with Rogue Sun after the big Crossover comic they did. I loved the art for it but I just didnt like the main character. I took it off my list when I had three of them sitting in my to-read pile and started putting other titles on top of it.

I forgot Grim! Grim is pretty cool too! Much more of a supernatural action genre.



It is pretty free of Western Political stuff, and is rarely preachy about that sort of thing. There is actually a big todo going on right now where localizers (people who take translations and try to make them more normal for other languages) are getting majorly crapped on because there are times when they are inserting political stuff into stories. They are getting mad because its being tested with a very popular Manga (Frieren Journeys end which is *AMAZING*) is being simo-released in english and japanese using AI translations. With their jobs in jeopardy they are complaining on X and are getting lambasted because fans don't go to manga for american politics.

And they are called the League of Villians

Thanks for letting me know about Gargoyles - I knew there was a comic but have been putting it off. I will certainly look into it.

Invincible is really good - both the comic and the show (though I am three episodes behind in season 2). I think you would enjoy the comic too - the first season of the show is pretty faithful to the beginning of the comics (albeit the show rushes certain things due to time constraints) and there are lots f interesting story arcs I will not spoil for you. I am gonna go back and read all 25 volumes this year because I only got to 23.

Radiant Black is one on my radar but not started yet. Haven't heard of Grim - I will google it.

As for Incorruptible and Irredeemable: the latter is another take on the Evil Superman trope but it is really well done. Mark Waid wrote it and he tends to write good stuff. It's from 2009 or so I believe and only has about 40 issues if I am remembering correctly so not a huge commitment. Incorruptible is an interesting twist and spin on things - it's a spin-off of it and about a villain who turns 'good' and tries to stop the hero who becomes evil. I would suggest Irredeemable at least, it's a very good read.

I wouldn't suggest The Boys - it is ok but in very poor taste and one of the rare books or comics where the source material in inferior to the show/film.

Other things you could read include Gotham Central and Punisher Max (latter is some of Garth Ennis's better stuff).

There's loads of great non-superhero comics to read too, but not sure if you are a superhero only guy or not. Recently though I bought a Kindle so I am thinking of reading more novels than comic books this year.

Thanks for letting me know about all the political stuff. I am left leaning but I don't care for agendas or politics in movies etc or anything. It doesn't tend to bother me much but I also think it's totally unnecessary mostly. I thought it was the League of Villains, just wasn't sure anymore. We were just learning more about them in the show really when I stopped, and I still don't know much about them.

Right, it is almost 6 am here so I better go offline soon and shower. Talk soon. Thanks for the chat mate :)

Autbot_Benz
01-28-2024, 11:35 AM
S7 starts May 4th 2024

https://i.imgur.com/bvVwuSA.jpeg

Allio
01-29-2024, 08:08 PM
So we got the new film coming out with a villain misinterpreting All Might’s “You’re next”

And it makes me wonder with the recent trend of anime having post series films, do you think MHA will get one?

Bahamut810
01-29-2024, 10:10 PM
So we got the new film coming out with a villain misinterpreting All Might’s “You’re next”

And it makes me wonder with the recent trend of anime having post series films, do you think MHA will get one?

They may get a pre-quel type deal, animating Vigilantes.

CyberCubed
01-29-2024, 10:37 PM
It's funny modern anime doesn't really have filler like old anime does, but they do the "filler" in movies instead. If MHA came out in the 90's for example, the series would just run non-stop with filler arcs between the big manga arcs till it ended like Dragon Ball Z and so many older anime.

I'm glad modern anime doesn't do that anymore and stops with seasons. I have no idea why that was a thing for so long.

sdp
01-29-2024, 11:54 PM
I'm not as familiar with modern anima/manga adaptations but filler was created because the anime would catch up to the manga and they couldn't just wait for another season, it had to continue airing or risk losing the timeslot forever.
The reason they didn't wait was because the manga was popular so they wanted to cash-in as soon as possible.

how is that different now? To adapt arcs they need to have content, does manga come out quicker nowadays or does anime just wait until the manga is done?

Filler can have its charm, i don't know why it's so demonized. Sailor Moon Crystal is a good example of how the anime writers were able to make a more interesting version of the characters in comparison to the manga. Saint Seiya's filler arc was better than the manga adaptation it was making time for. Some people prefer FMA over FMA:B for that same reason.

Allio
01-30-2024, 04:29 AM
Anime typically nowadays don’t do year long seasons. It gives the author time to get ahead.

Bahamut810
01-30-2024, 11:06 AM
Filler can have its charm, i don't know why it's so demonized. Sailor Moon Crystal is a good example of how the anime writers were able to make a more interesting version of the characters in comparison to the manga. Saint Seiya's filler arc was better than the manga adaptation it was making time for. Some people prefer FMA over FMA:B for that same reason.

I think the original Sailor Moon did it ok too. I loved the Doom Tree Arc (American, never watched Dub only American TV version).

CyberCubed
01-31-2024, 06:14 PM
Some filler stories can be good, but not if they go on endlessly, after awhile it just feels like padding. Sailor Moon is 200 episodes and like only 25% of it is actually from the manga, lol

Sumac
02-01-2024, 12:51 AM
OG Sailor Moon was amazing because of fillers. They allowed to give more personality to main cast, as well, as villains, which were incredibly shallow in manga and basically were killed as soon as they have appeared. So, this is the case, where having fillers was a good thing.

The same reason why Crystal, kind of "eh" in my book. Not to mention stilted animation and boring designs.

Autbot_Benz
02-12-2024, 10:13 AM
https://i.imgur.com/JoDP9HY.jpeg

Man look what those nomu did to my girl Mirko

Bahamut810
02-12-2024, 08:41 PM
Now Lets talk about that and Eri...

CyberCubed
02-12-2024, 09:07 PM
The series has so many characters now so many of them could probably carry their own spinoffs. I wonder if that's the plan when the manga eventually ends. Just make short stories focused on each character or two.

Bahamut810
02-13-2024, 11:13 AM
The series has so many characters now so many of them could probably carry their own spinoffs. I wonder if that's the plan when the manga eventually ends. Just make short stories focused on each character or two.

They already have a few spin offs (Vigalantes which I think concluded and is a prequel, team up missions) so it will either go the Naruto route (next gen) or it will be done done. Because of how popular it is I think it will go to the next gen.

Autbot_Benz
03-09-2024, 12:22 PM
n__Vh9LHgyU

S7 May 4th
https://comicbook.com/anime/news/my-hero-academia-new-season-7-trailer/

Bahamut810
03-09-2024, 11:14 PM
n__Vh9LHgyU

S7 May 4th
https://comicbook.com/anime/news/my-hero-academia-new-season-7-trailer/

Im looking forward to it! This season and one more season and they will be done. Not much story left to go!!

CyberCubed
03-09-2024, 11:19 PM
Im looking forward to it! This season and one more season and they will be done. Not much story left to go!!

Is it really all going to be over soon? I do have to say, I prefer series that don't go on forever.

There's a reason I can't get into Naruto, One Piece, etc, they're just too damn long. Even if I use a "filler ep guide" to skip the fillers, it's still not really worth it because the sheer length of episodes. Besides shows I got into as a kid like Dragon Ball Z I can't get into new anime that goes on for hundreds of episodes.

Autbot_Benz
05-04-2024, 11:03 AM
S7 Ep1 one was great. Star and Stripe is a badass and her quirk is interesting.

Bahamut810
05-04-2024, 08:25 PM
S7 Ep1 one was great. Star and Stripe is a badass and her quirk is interesting.

I have been looking forward to this! She is a complete badass!!

Bahamut810
05-04-2024, 08:40 PM
Is it really all going to be over soon? I do have to say, I prefer series that don't go on forever.

There's a reason I can't get into Naruto, One Piece, etc, they're just too damn long. Even if I use a "filler ep guide" to skip the fillers, it's still not really worth it because the sheer length of episodes. Besides shows I got into as a kid like Dragon Ball Z I can't get into new anime that goes on for hundreds of episodes.

Sorry I didnt respond. Yeah, after this there are two arks I think? One that shores up a plot point from season 1 that was dropped and then the final one.

To put it into perspective, she is introduced (aka the last ep of last season) in chapter 329 and we are on 421. I anticipate that we are going to get through this, then the next arc and start on the final arc about 1/2 to 3/4 though the season and next season will end everything.

When it comes to filler, I *think* there was one filler episode (I cant remember if Froppys froggy family ep was in the manga...it happens after reading 421 chapters of a manga). They may have one in the final season to break up the constant big fights.

CyberCubed
05-04-2024, 11:12 PM
I'm just glad it will reach a conclusion. Blows my mind how long stuff like Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, etc. have gone on and seeing other anime end in a shorter amount of time and with almost no filler is ideal. It's why I can never get into those shows due to the sheer mass of episodes.

I'm glad it seems almost all modern day shonen end at a reasonable time.

Autbot_Benz
05-11-2024, 11:02 AM
Well S7 Ep 2 was good Star and Stripe got killed cause Shigaraki stole her quirk but the upside is Star's Quirk is like a poison in him killing alot of the other quirks he has stolen

hopefully we get to see Mirko and Aizawa again soon

Autbot_Benz
05-18-2024, 10:54 AM
S7 Ep 3 was another good one

Found out that Yuga was originally quirkless like Deku but his parents got Yuga's quirk from All For One and was forced to be a spy for him. Yuga is the reason all the villains were able to find where the heroes were all those times.

Also we finally saw Toru Hagakure's face she is the invisible girl

Bahamut810
05-19-2024, 07:14 PM
S7 Ep 3 was another good one

Found out that Yuga was originally quirkless like Deku but his parents got Yuga's quirk from All For One and was forced to be a spy for him. Yuga is the reason all the villains were able to find where the heroes were all those times.

Also we finally saw Toru Hagakure's face she is the invisible girl

Yeah, that was a plot point from season 1 or 2 that was completely abandoned.

Bahamut810
06-03-2024, 03:43 PM
Welp...the run is almost done. The latest chapter is titled Epilogue. They haven't announced how many chapters are left...but I am thinking 8~10? They have to fill the final volume of the manga.

Wow...huge run!

Autbot_Benz
06-03-2024, 04:41 PM
looking forward to the battle this weekend.

Mirko is back baby. loved how they pulled one over on All For One

Autbot_Benz
06-08-2024, 10:46 AM
this episode was cool. Such a good plan to split everyone up. My waifu Mirko finally got to kick some ass this episode.
interesting to see what happens since Toga caused Deku not to go to the flying UA with Shigarkai

ZariusTwo
06-25-2024, 05:12 AM
The Manga will reach it's conclusion in August

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2024-06-24/my-hero-academia-manga-to-end-in-5-chapters/.212355

Bahamut810
06-25-2024, 09:25 AM
The Manga will reach it's conclusion in August

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2024-06-24/my-hero-academia-manga-to-end-in-5-chapters/.212355

So we have at 5 chapters left (if we get them weekly). Dude...I love the franchise but I am glad we are getting an ending.

CyberCubed
06-25-2024, 04:51 PM
Anime that literally goes on forever seems to be a thing of the past these days, with One Piece being a perfect example of that. Or stuff like Beserk where the author actually dies in real life before finishing the story.

I much prefer shorter series, I do not need to watch 200+ episodes of the same franchise anymore. Also thank god the days of "anime filler" are also over. If MHA came out in the 90's or early 2000's, it would run non-stop all year long with a whole bunch of filler arcs between the main manga arcs, and the show would be like 500+ episodes.

Thank god My Hero Academia did not suffer what Naruto, One Piece, Bleach and to a lesser extent Dragon Ball did back in the day,

Iroh
06-26-2024, 12:14 PM
Naruto is way better than MHA. I'm thankful it's coming to an end. Too much chatter, screaming, and running around in MHA. A lot of goofy jokes made MHA boring as well. Naruto had context that made it lengthy.

Bahamut810
06-27-2024, 10:52 PM
Naruto is way better than MHA. I'm thankful it's coming to an end. Too much chatter, screaming, and running around in MHA. A lot of goofy jokes made MHA boring as well. Naruto had context that made it lengthy.

They are both good in their own ways. I think I am more of a MHA fan because I am more of a Super Hero fan then a Ninja weeb.

Iroh
06-28-2024, 12:33 AM
They are both good in their own ways. I think I am more of a MHA fan because I am more of a Super Hero fan then a Ninja weeb.

Hahahaha! I hear you. That so called superhero stuff you're watching on MHA is more weebish than Naruto though.

neatoman
06-28-2024, 12:38 AM
Anime that literally goes on forever seems to be a thing of the past these days, with One Piece being a perfect example of that. Or stuff like Beserk where the author actually dies in real life before finishing the story.

I much prefer shorter series, I do not need to watch 200+ episodes of the same franchise anymore. Also thank god the days of "anime filler" are also over. If MHA came out in the 90's or early 2000's, it would run non-stop all year long with a whole bunch of filler arcs between the main manga arcs, and the show would be like 500+ episodes.

Thank god My Hero Academia did not suffer what Naruto, One Piece, Bleach and to a lesser extent Dragon Ball did back in the day,

Well I mean... That is for the best, is it not? I maintain that a new full adaptation of Dragon Ball would probably only be about 120 episodes, as opposed to the 444 they ended up with back in the day.

CyberCubed
06-28-2024, 10:28 PM
Dragonball/DBZ could be condensed (as seen with Kai), but some of the fillers genuinely help the pacing and I like seeing on-screen training. Like back in 2005 or so when I read the manga for the first time it surprised me how much stuff is skipped or glossed over. Like at the end of the Namek saga when in the anime you see Bulma wishing Yamcha/Tien/Chaiotzu and everyone back to life...yet in the manga it happens off-panel and you just get a single line "all of Goku's friends got brought back to life." lol, the anime made it much more emotional and enjoyable.

Autbot_Benz
07-13-2024, 11:05 AM
Great episode today a lot of growth for Endeavor and Bakugo. Some really cool action attacks too.

Autbot_Benz
07-20-2024, 11:06 AM
Man Today's Episode RIP Katsugi Bakugo. Deku better get his ass to the fight ASAP

Thanks to the Summer Olympics taking place in Paris, France, My Hero Academia is taking next week off. Rather than airing its twelfth episode on July 27th, the anime adaptation is planning to air its next episode on August 3rd.

https://comicbook.com/anime/news/my-hero-academia-season-seven-anime-hiatus/

Iroh
07-20-2024, 08:18 PM
Yeah. Katsuki really let loose this episode. I shed some tears of happiness when he held his own against All for One. I'm hyped for the new episode on my birthday!

Autbot_Benz
08-03-2024, 07:41 PM
Great episode today. Edge Shot and Jeanus working together to help Bakugo was cool.

But Mirko going all out attacking Shigaraki. Feral Mirko is awesome. Don't **** with the #5 hero Muscle Mommy Mirko.

Bahamut810
08-04-2024, 08:44 AM
Forgot to post...

Its over. The Manga has Completed. I wish we got a bit more about some characters, but good overall.

CyberCubed
08-04-2024, 01:07 PM
I wish more series would end sooner like this. I can't believe One Piece has been going since 1999. Anyone following that from the start had to spend 25 years and counting still following it.

I'm really glad most modern manga/anime realize they don't have to go on forever.

Prowler
08-21-2024, 04:03 PM
Apparently a large portion of the fandom hated the ending because Deku and Ochako didn't officially become a couple. It's like, they don't know that rarely couples become official in anime/manga.

And now there's lots of memes and even people seriously claiming that Deku is a cuck and that Ochako ended up with Bakugo instead. My Hero Academia has one of the dumbest fandoms I've seen.

Coola Yagami
08-22-2024, 05:03 PM
Apparently a large portion of the fandom hated the ending because Deku and Ochako didn't officially become a couple. It's like, they don't know that rarely couples become official in anime/manga.

And now there's lots of memes and even people seriously claiming that Deku is a cuck and that Ochako ended up with Bakugo instead. My Hero Academia has one of the dumbest fandoms I've seen.

People are claiming that due to the positioning of Bakugo and Ochako on that splash page, he has his hand on her ass if you continue to draw the rest of his obscured arm.

I also saw memes of poor Deku working at a not-McDonald's holding back tears as he takes Bakugo and Ochako's orders.

Bahamut810
08-22-2024, 10:03 PM
Its more that Deku doesn't have the happiest ending and people being extremely disappointed and meme-ifying it (including, yes over analyzing a group pic).

Ending in the spoilers

Deku loses all his powers, even the Embers go away eventually. He is lauded as a hero for a brief time but everyone grows up and goes on with their lives according to their dreams in a world where hero's have a lot of free time (Hawks' dream).

No ships or implied ships are canonized. None.

Deku uses his expertise in analyzing and working with quirks to become a teacher at UA eventually at the very end (before the 'bonus') finds another kid with dreams of Heroism like Deku did at his age (including moving when someone was in trouble that prompted All Might to take interest in deku all the years before).

Uraraka becomes a popular hero who creates the Quirk Counseling Expansion Project dedicated to helping people deal with quirks (aka Toga) that is one of the most essential projects in their current society.

Bakugo is not a Top 10 hero. Strength is not as important as PR and he is bad at PR.

Shouji (Multi-arms guy) is Recognized as a major hero and earns a peace prize for his work combating anti-meta human racism.

Todaroki is moving up the charts and is no longer just Endeavors Son. Dabi is kept in a coma only coming out for small amounts of time to visit with family. Endeavor is abandoned by one of his sons but the rest of his family feel he has redeemed himself. He does not agree and says he will keep working for his own redemption.

Kids dont want to be Heroes by and large anymore as they aren't needed so cant look as cool now. They want to do other things with Hatsume's Support Item Design company, La Brava's new Google-like company or random Yoshi-lookalike doctor that was in a few chapters.

At the very end there is an 'extra' where you find out that in the past 8 years his class never forgot him. They spend that time funding research and production of his own Iron-Might suit to emulate his old powers. They mention that Bakugo put a very large amount of money into it in particular. The final image is an updated 'group action shot' where they get the Bakugo/Uraraka image from. Everyone gets an updated look.

Other then some images or a passing word about Ingenium, Froppy and Creati visiting schools with Uraraka...no one else gets details about where they ended up.

NGL...I was disappointed with how scarce things were as well. There were a dozen other characters I wanted more about instead of random Yoshi-doctor
but I think that Deku becoming a teacher was kind of where he was destined to go to. It does feel like the class does abandon him till the 'extra' at the end which is probably why it was included.

CyberCubed
08-23-2024, 04:50 PM
It's kind of funny how so many long running shonen anime have such controversial endings. I remember the big uproar about Attack on Titan ending a few years ago (I liked it though), and so many others. It just feels like most creators don't really know how to end a series. It either ends anti-climatically or they do the usual generic timeskip showing everyone as adults married with kids or something.

Prowler
08-24-2024, 04:32 PM
People are claiming that due to the positioning of Bakugo and Ochako on that splash page, he has his hand on her ass if you continue to draw the rest of his obscured arm.

I also saw memes of poor Deku working at a not-McDonald's holding back tears as he takes Bakugo and Ochako's orders.
LOL so people reading way too much into it. I know some are just messing, but MHA has a really dumb fanbase, so I bet 80% of those reactions are people who truly believe Deku became a "cuck" and Bakugo is banging Ochako now.

Anyway, it clearly shows how MHA became the normie anime. Popular anime couples not getting canonically confirmed is the rule, not the exception. Since MHA is not a romance, I never expected it to end with Deku and Ochako kissing each other or something like that.

It's kind of funny how so many long running shonen anime have such controversial endings. I remember the big uproar about Attack on Titan ending a few years ago (I liked it though), and so many others. It just feels like most creators don't really know how to end a series. It either ends anti-climatically or they do the usual generic timeskip showing everyone as adults married with kids or something.
One Piece had its timeskip in the middle of the series. I have faith in One Piece's ending. Oda is a pretty good writer and there are no plotholes in OP.

CyberCubed
08-24-2024, 05:51 PM
A lot of shonen anime have ended recently. Besides One Piece the only older ones still going is HunterxHunter due to the hiatuses and Beserk if that counts. Everything else is over or ending soon.

We're at a weird point where all the most popular anime have already ended, or have been over since the early/mid 2000's.

Prowler
08-24-2024, 07:03 PM
A lot of shonen anime have ended recently. Besides One Piece the only older ones still going is HunterxHunter due to the hiatuses and Beserk if that counts. Everything else is over or ending soon.

We're at a weird point where all the most popular anime have already ended, or have been over since the early/mid 2000's.

HunterxHunter is still ongoing?

Berserk? That's not shonen. That's seinen. Kids/teens definitely aren't the target demographic of that series. And didn't the mangaka die some years ago, which means he never got to finish the manga? It has been ongoing since the early 90s, I think.

Detective Conan is also still going, but I guess it's not so popular outside of Japan anymore.

Is the Pokémon anime series still going? Or did it end once Ash finally became Champion?

CyberCubed
08-24-2024, 07:32 PM
Beserk is still going, the creator died but his assistants took over and they intend to bring it to an ending. HunterxHunter would have ended a decade ago but the writers health prevented him from continuing it for years, but he intends to finish it.

Ash's story in Pokemon is over for now, there's a new set of heroes for the Horizons anime. But I do think Ash will be revisited in movies/specials down the line due to how marketable he and Pikachu are.

Bahamut810
08-24-2024, 10:46 PM
Anyway, it clearly shows how MHA became the normie anime. Popular anime couples not getting canonically confirmed is the rule, not the exception. Since MHA is not a romance, I never expected it to end with Deku and Ochako kissing each other or something like that.

Fans right now see all sorts of relationships because whats big right now are Harem Isekai where the hero gets the girl. Those stories have a major element of the tension between the male and female lead(s) (or female and female leads) and people want to see that investment come to fruition. I think its safe to say that popular anime in the west has romance half the time. For every Black Clover, Attack on titan and HunterxHunter there is a Bleach (IchigoxOrihime), Naruto (NarutoxHinata) and Sword Art Online (AsunaxKirito). I would argue that one of the reasons its expected in the west is because the biggest anime that turned normies into fans more then not had those relationships and tensions.

Even MHA *hinted* at several ships that would eventually be canon (Ochako and Deku, Aishido and Kirishima, Kaminari and Jiro) but they didnt solidify anything. I think that this is a good move because it lets people have their ships, but people want those ships to sail and a time skip would let that happen if it were going to happen.

A lot of shonen anime have ended recently. Besides One Piece the only older ones still going is HunterxHunter due to the hiatuses and Beserk if that counts. Everything else is over or ending soon.

Manga is a very cut throat industry. If its not pulling in numbers it wont keep getting published so mangakas push themselves to past the point of burning out so they still can keep making what they want. However...its good they are ending. New series can take their place. Hopefully something other then isekai.

CyberCubed
08-24-2024, 11:25 PM
Demon Slayer and Dr. Stone also ended in the manga a few years ago, and the anime adaptions will end. Demon Slayer is getting 3 movies to wrap it up, and Dr. Stone has one final season next year.

SpyxFamily was really popular for awhile, it still is, but I wonder how much longer the manga will go on for. Chainsaw Man and One Punch Man also have a lot to adapt, but it'll take forever for the anime of those to continue.

Prowler
08-25-2024, 08:16 AM
Fans right now see all sorts of relationships because whats big right now are Harem Isekai where the hero gets the girl. Those stories have a major element of the tension between the male and female lead(s) (or female and female leads) and people want to see that investment come to fruition. I think its safe to say that popular anime in the west has romance half the time. For every Black Clover, Attack on titan and HunterxHunter there is a Bleach (IchigoxOrihime), Naruto (NarutoxHinata) and Sword Art Online (AsunaxKirito). I would argue that one of the reasons its expected in the west is because the biggest anime that turned normies into fans more then not had those relationships and tensions.

Even MHA *hinted* at several ships that would eventually be canon (Ochako and Deku, Aishido and Kirishima, Kaminari and Jiro) but they didnt solidify anything. I think that this is a good move because it lets people have their ships, but people want those ships to sail and a time skip would let that happen if it were going to happen.



Manga is a very cut throat industry. If its not pulling in numbers it wont keep getting published so mangakas push themselves to past the point of burning out so they still can keep making what they want. However...its good they are ending. New series can take their place. Hopefully something other then isekai.

Ah really? Harem anime has been a thing for a long time, though.

You're right it did hint at them but, as you said, anime/manga series often don't pull the trigger on the ships they hint at because they don't want to anger the audience. Some Japanese otakus are insane and take their favourite ships way too seriously :lol:

Kaminari x Jiro and Deku x Ochako were pretty solid ships, imo. So what if they didn't become "official"? Can't people just imagine them getting together off-screen or something?

Bahamut810
08-25-2024, 10:26 AM
Ah really? Harem anime has been a thing for a long time, though.

You're right it did hint at them but, as you said, anime/manga series often don't pull the trigger on the ships they hint at because they don't want to anger the audience. Some Japanese otakus are insane and take their favourite ships way too seriously :lol:

Kaminari x Jiro and Deku x Ochako were pretty solid ships, imo. So what if they didn't become "official"? Can't people just imagine them getting together off-screen or something?

Harem being around for a long time sort of supports the idea that the Protag getting the girl/boy is expected because that's what those shows were all about. I think that canonizing ships that were there were more the rule for anime the western audience saw then not. While Tenchi didnt end up with one specific person (instead ending with his harem)...Sailor Moon ended up with Darrian (Mamoru), Keitaro ended up with Naru (Love Hina), Hortu and Kyo (Fruits Basket), Vegeta and Bulma (DBZ), Krillin and 18 (DBZ), Gohan and Videl (DBGT), Vash and Millie (kind of? Trigun).

I actually wish I had a better grasp of the popular anime of the years before streaming for this...I actually think it would be interesting to see how the western audience started to absorb and watch this content and how shipping and romance worked in to it.

Also...how dare you ignore the best MHA ship. Aishido and Kirishima are OTP and you are a monster for ignoring them. I hope you stub your little toe on your right foot hard enough that your great grand children can feel it for your transgression.

Prowler
09-06-2024, 12:52 PM
Harem being around for a long time sort of supports the idea that the Protag getting the girl/boy is expected because that's what those shows were all about. I think that canonizing ships that were there were more the rule for anime the western audience saw then not. While Tenchi didnt end up with one specific person (instead ending with his harem)...Sailor Moon ended up with Darrian (Mamoru), Keitaro ended up with Naru (Love Hina), Hortu and Kyo (Fruits Basket), Vegeta and Bulma (DBZ), Krillin and 18 (DBZ), Gohan and Videl (DBGT), Vash and Millie (kind of? Trigun).

I actually wish I had a better grasp of the popular anime of the years before streaming for this...I actually think it would be interesting to see how the western audience started to absorb and watch this content and how shipping and romance worked in to it.

Also...how dare you ignore the best MHA ship. Aishido and Kirishima are OTP and you are a monster for ignoring them. I hope you stub your little toe on your right foot hard enough that your great grand children can feel it for your transgression.
I didn't know they were a popular ship tbh.

I'll never have kids, let alone grandchildren, so I don't think your curse will have any effect :lol:

Anyway, I saw this video on youtube of a girl talking about Momo Yaoyorozu and her wasted potential, and I decided to make a reaction video response to it. I do agree that Momo did not get used to her full potential, but I also disagree with some of the things she says:

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CyberCubed
09-06-2024, 04:15 PM
A lot of shonen manga tend to waste their female characters. It's a shame but it is what it is. What's weird is they give all these female characters great designs, but then barely use them as the series goes on, so they barely get any screentime.

Coola Yagami
09-06-2024, 05:42 PM
A lot of shonen manga tend to waste their female characters. It's a shame but it is what it is. What's weird is they give all these female characters great designs, but then barely use them as the series goes on, so they barely get any screentime.

I notice anime, in particular, though many US cartoons do it too, but in anime the story always focuses on the 1-2 main characters. The side characters might get an episode here and there or even a min-arc, but it's always centered around the main character or it must involve them in some way.

So sadly the only way Momo would have gotten a bigger role was if she got closer to Deku had arcs that forced them constantly work together.

Prowler
09-06-2024, 06:53 PM
A lot of shonen manga tend to waste their female characters. It's a shame but it is what it is. What's weird is they give all these female characters great designs, but then barely use them as the series goes on, so they barely get any screentime.

I notice anime, in particular, though many US cartoons do it too, but in anime the story always focuses on the 1-2 main characters. The side characters might get an episode here and there or even a min-arc, but it's always centered around the main character or it must involve them in some way.

So sadly the only way Momo would have gotten a bigger role was if she got closer to Deku had arcs that forced them constantly work together.

The problem is, Horikoshi had way too many characters in MHA and didn't know how to handle many of them. Unlike Oda, who has created tons of characters for One Piece, yet, many get to shine. The fact the show is divided in arcs and many characters stick exclusively or mostly to a certain island/location which is where the arcs are set, helps.

Bahamut810
09-06-2024, 10:36 PM
The problem is, Horikoshi had way too many characters in MHA and didn't know how to handle many of them. Unlike Oda, who has created tons of characters for One Piece, yet, many get to shine. The fact the show is divided in arcs and many characters stick exclusively or mostly to a certain island/location which is where the arcs are set, helps.

I can agree with that. I havent watched the vid yet, but Momo probably had the 5th or 6th most advancement time for just them. Deku, Todoroki, Bakugo, Uraraka, Kirishima, then Momo.

Allio
09-07-2024, 02:28 AM
Think that’s what makes Iruma-kun work as a series. While yes the first season essentially was just set up for Iruma at Babyls, after that it is able to focus on the ensemble cast that is his classmates where each arc essentially either has Iruma partnered up with someone, it’s a group thing, or some characters gets a large moment to shine. Now granted, iruma had a much smaller class cast (13) and it is more of a slice of life series with serious bookends.

Prowler
09-07-2024, 08:03 AM
I can agree with that. I havent watched the vid yet, but Momo probably had the 5th or 6th most advancement time for just them. Deku, Todoroki, Bakugo, Uraraka, Kirishima, then Momo.

I'd argue that even Iida had more focus since he got that arc early in the series with his brother and Stain.

CyberCubed
09-07-2024, 07:03 PM
In any case it's another big shonen anime in the books, next season of the anime will be the last and cover the rest of the manga.

As I said before, we're in a weird place now where almost all the big anime are already over, or in the process of ending. The only real popular current series is SpyxFamily, Frieren, and I guess if you count it Chainsaw Man.

But there is still a lot of anime that didn't cover all the manga yet, like Jo-Jo, Beserk, HunterxHunter, etc...so...they're technically all still going too.

Bahamut810
09-07-2024, 11:12 PM
In any case it's another big shonen anime in the books, next season of the anime will be the last and cover the rest of the manga.

As I said before, we're in a weird place now where almost all the big anime are already over, or in the process of ending. The only real popular current series is SpyxFamily, Frieren, and I guess if you count it Chainsaw Man.

But there is still a lot of anime that didn't cover all the manga yet, like Jo-Jo, Beserk, HunterxHunter, etc...so...they're technically all still going too.

Thankfully Frieren has restarted so their issues seem to be resolved (I havent looked into how they resolved things I just read the manga and new chapters have been coming). There are a lot more out there but I dont know of anything that is epic enough to step into those shoes either. Possibly Chained Soldier, but I havent really watched that anime only read the manga.

CyberCubed
09-08-2024, 12:15 AM
I think it helps a lot of manga are shorter now, and don't go on forever the way they used to. And most anime don't do endless filler anymore, they take a break between seasons.

It's really absurd how much filler older anime has, or ones like One Piece that can't stop airing a new ep week after week. It really did ruin a lot of older shows, and sometimes you can't skip eps because they insert filler stories into canon episodes and such to stretch them out. I think anime going forward all needs to be much shorter, and thankfully it's the direction they seem to be going at.

Autbot_Benz
10-12-2024, 11:56 AM
Season 8 is the FINAL season of My Hero Academia

https://comicbook.com/anime/news/my-...-final-season/

Bahamut810
10-12-2024, 06:20 PM
Season 8 is the FINAL season of My Hero Academia

https://comicbook.com/anime/news/my-...-final-season/

I am just wondering if they are going to do any filler or just have a short season. I have heard where it ends and I don't know if they have 24 episodes left

CyberCubed
10-12-2024, 07:12 PM
They can do a 12-13 episode season.

Autbot_Benz
10-12-2024, 07:15 PM
They can do a 12-13 episode season.

Season 1 of MHA was 13 episodes if need be they can do it for S8

CyberCubed
10-12-2024, 07:21 PM
It's possible there can be some epilogue episodes after the time skip at the end too.

Prowler
10-31-2024, 02:00 PM
And I decided to make a top 10 personal favourite My Hero Academia characters. And I made a video out of it. :P

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CyberCubed
10-31-2024, 04:18 PM
Now that we're near the end, I think the issue is he introduced way too many characters that he had time for. The main class was too big that a lot of the secondary/third tier characters barely got a chance to shine, and then he introduced all the other top students after that, in addition to having to give all the teachers a lot of focus and fights too.

It's a real shame. You can tell he really only had time for a small handful of characters in the spotlight and everyone else had to compete with each other for the little screentime left over. There were also a lot of unique character pairings/dynamics he could have focused on more, like friendship between each of the characters.

Prowler
11-02-2024, 05:47 AM
Now that we're near the end, I think the issue is he introduced way too many characters that he had time for. The main class was too big that a lot of the secondary/third tier characters barely got a chance to shine, and then he introduced all the other top students after that, in addition to having to give all the teachers a lot of focus and fights too.

It's a real shame. You can tell he really only had time for a small handful of characters in the spotlight and everyone else had to compete with each other for the little screentime left over. There were also a lot of unique character pairings/dynamics he could have focused on more, like friendship between each of the characters.

He just isn't as good as Oda at writing and keeping track of everyone, I guess.

CyberCubed
11-02-2024, 10:33 AM
Yeah too bad, a lot of these characters have great designs but they only have a few small scenes they're relevant in. Even the teachers for that matter.

Bahamut810
11-02-2024, 12:47 PM
Apparently in the last 4 volumes they are going to add 60 pages to the manga. IF we are lucky...10 of those will be in the final one with more ending materials.

a place (https://www.sportskeeda.com/anime/my-hero-academia-s-final-volume-confirms-extra-content-page-count#:~:text=Kohei%20Horikoshi's%20My%20Hero%20Ac ademia,60%20pages%20of%20bonus%20content.)

CyberCubed
11-02-2024, 01:51 PM
I'm glad this is happening now since the anime will be able to include the extra content in the final season.

Bahamut810
11-02-2024, 05:54 PM
Yeah, the more I reflect on it the more I feel its too bare. We got more on multiple background characters and the Old woman who failed to save Shigaraki got a 3 or 4 page redemption arc. We need a few more pages on the rest of the class among other people.

I am ok with not confirming ships...but come on.

CyberCubed
11-03-2024, 12:35 AM
I'm kinda expecting the anime to have an extended ending anyway. Most people believe next season will only be 13 eps, but if there really is more material, they could stretch it out to another 20ish ep season with more of an epilogue.

Allio
12-27-2024, 11:08 AM
So glad we are getting an adaptation of Vigilantes

Allio
04-07-2025, 05:22 PM
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CyberCubed
12-27-2025, 03:59 PM
So I watched the final season. My problem with anime is way too much exposition during fight scenes, not just this show but most shows. The characters spend half the episode with inner-monologues, telling us their thoughts and ideals, then the villains do the same, then the characters talk about how strong their attacks are, or how the other character survived their attacks, etc. The whole fight in the last season could have been done in 2-3 eps tops if they didn't stretch it out to 8 episodes, and this is intertwined with flashbacks to past episodes, or other characters watching and reacting to what they were doing, etc. Again I know all shonen anime do this, but my god does it ruin the pacing of these fights.

But overall it was fine. The last 3 ep epilogue was good too, I don't know why manga fans were so disappointed. I know there's 1 more special/ova ep for 2026 adapting the timeskip portion of the manga, so we got to wait till May for that.

Overall the show was fine, I have the same issues most have in a lot of the secondary classmates did not get enough screentime especially all the female characters, but what can you do. It's a fun show for "normies" who don't particularly like anime too.