Men In Black "Spin-Off" Coming In 2019 [Archive]

ZariusTwo

09-30-2017, 05:38 AM

Steven Spielberg will executive produce what is being described as a world-building "spin-off" in the mold of Jurassic World, with Matt Holloway & Art Marcum (Iron Man I, Transformers: The Last Knight) writing the script. Film is scheduled for May 17th 2019.

Tommy Lee Jones and Will Smith are "not expected" to reprise their roles.

http://deadline.com/2017/09/men-in-black-spinoff-may-17-2019-steven-spielberg-walter-parkes-laurie-macdonald-matt-holloway-art-marcum-1202179483/

drgon78

09-30-2017, 06:24 AM

Personally I would prefer to see a Men in Black 4 with the original main characters.

Wildcat

09-30-2017, 11:10 PM

Saw this yesterday. Love the MIB series. I’m glad it will acknowledge the first 3.

Krutch

09-30-2017, 11:34 PM

Who wants to take bets it'll be Women in Black? :P

Autbot_Benz

10-01-2017, 12:09 AM

Who wants to take bets it'll be Women in Black? :P

Well lets see

number 1 Its Sony

Number 2 its the trend of 2017 take a main property with guys and make them girls

Wildcat

10-01-2017, 01:00 AM

Cure

10-01-2017, 01:05 AM

I still wanna see the crossover with Jump Street, damn it.

Andrew NDB

10-01-2017, 01:08 AM

I still wanna see the crossover with Jump Street, damn it.

That was the only interesting idea. Men in Black 1 wasn't funny or even inherently good, highly overrated movie (though the concept is great)... and 2 was even worse. 3 was surprisingly good, but too little too late.

Probably the MiB people weren't willing to do any sort of hybrid MiB/Jump Street movie in hard R. And there'd really be no point in involving Jump Street without that. I really hope we get some kind of Jump Street 3, though, in spite of that.

dl316bh

10-01-2017, 04:17 AM

I will say I’m seeing some of the usual stupid comments like they should leave the series alone if it doesn’t include Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones.
Generally, I agree with the sentiment that comments like that are dumb and series can move forward with other characters or actors. But I do think MiB is a different case. I always thought the draw was Will Smith playing off Tommy Lee Jones. The MiB world is sort of interesting, but not necessarily enough to be the hook, in my opinion.

I guess we'll see how it plays out.

Men in Black 1 wasn't funny or even inherently good, highly overrated movie (though the concept is great)... and 2 was even worse. 3 was surprisingly good, but too little too late.
I still like the first film, but I remember the second just being alright and never seeing the third. Do people over-rate 1? It always seemed like a case where everyone thinks it's a good movie, but were never rabid about how it was amazing or anything.

Andrew NDB

10-02-2017, 11:34 AM

Do people over-rate 1? It always seemed like a case where everyone thinks it's a good movie, but were never rabid about how it was amazing or anything.

People overrate 1 all the time. They look back at it like it's this genre-redefining comic masterpiece. I didn't get one chuckle out of the whole movie and I was "prime age" for this when it came out. The ending went out with a fizzle, too. It's just a series of misses, strange choices, and big special effects.

I think it's a little bit like "Bad Boys," where it's very white guys trying to write a lot of "funny black man" dialogue and jokes and all of it falling flat. In a different movie that doesn't matter so much, but here, very much the "heart" and crux of these movies is how funny and endearing we find Will Smith to be.

sdp

10-02-2017, 11:41 AM

I liked the first movie, but I was a kid, by the time the second one came out, I liked the cartoon as well. MIIB I didn't like that much but by the time it came out I was in my early teens so I cared for other stuff but I remember how heavily it was marketed. By the time MIIIB came out it had been long enough that I wanted to re-watch the other films and this one to see how they held up. Still haven't done it. Funny how both the sequel and animated show retconned the girl being Smith's new partner.

What is 21 Jump Street? The films any good? Does it make sense to have a crossover?

Prowler

10-02-2017, 11:44 AM

I haven't watched MIB in years. All I remember from the first movie is the neuralyzer device.

Andrew NDB

10-02-2017, 12:14 PM

Funny how both the sequel and animated show retconned the girl being Smith's new partner.

That is funny. I'd forgotten about that.

What is 21 Jump Street? The films any good? Does it make sense to have a crossover?

They are hysterical to me, with a surprising amount of heart. Very well written. No, it doesn't make sense to have a crossover, but the ending/end credits montage of Jump Street 2 would have it make some semblance of sense.

ProphetofGanja

12-02-2017, 10:34 AM

I really, really love this song from MIB 3

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Coola Yagami

12-02-2017, 11:48 AM

I know Krutch meant it as a joke but there has already been major female characters in MIB. So if there’s another it’s nothing new here.

I will say I’m seeing some of the usual stupid comments like they should leave the series alone if it doesn’t include Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones.

It’s ridiculous because people seem to arbitrarily choose when it’s ok for a series to continue without the original characters.

MIB (similar to ghostbusters, not to open a can of worms but obviously it’s what came to our mind already) is a business/organization/department that deals with aliens. Surely there’s room to expand. Especially not being a reboot.

But Ghostbusters isn't an organization. It's 4 guys. Unlike the IDW comics, the movies never went into them expanding past that. It's just 4 guys trying to make ends meet that team up whenever the world is going to hell.

MiB was established to be a huge organization with J and K being only 2 members among many. Having a few girls in there as long as you acknowledge the 3 movies and reference the characters (wasn't K considered a legend) then go for it.

Spike Spiegel

12-02-2017, 09:35 PM

I was always a little miffed they never brought Linda Fiorentino back after the first film.

I don't mind one way or the other if they make more movies, but it would be very nice to see a full release of the animated series on DVD like they did with The Real Ghostbusters when the Feig version was released.

The first movie's slightly overrated, but not by much. I'd say it's the Ghostbusters of the '90s. And the third one is surprisingly good as well. The second one has some good slapstick and Lara Flynn Boyle in her prime...but that's about it.

ZariusTwo

12-05-2018, 01:25 PM

The movie goes by MIBI: Men In Black International

http://collider.com/men-in-black-reboot-title/#images

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

12-05-2018, 02:05 PM

The movie goes by MIBI: Men In Black International

http://collider.com/men-in-black-reboot-title/#images

We still talkin' bout Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson? Or is this some other spinoff?

ZariusTwo

12-05-2018, 03:23 PM

We still talkin' bout Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson? Or is this some other spinoff?

If you'd bother to check the link, you'll know it's the same film

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

12-05-2018, 03:51 PM

If you'd bother to check the link, you'll know it's the same film

Why bother myself when I can bother you? :tgrin:

ZariusTwo

12-06-2018, 03:01 AM

Why bother myself when I can bother you? :tgrin:

Oh bother:lol:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

12-06-2018, 09:19 AM

Oh bother:lol:

I wasn't sure because we've got multiple threads for this thing now. And, well... it IS Sony. :trazz:

ZariusTwo

12-07-2018, 12:20 PM

https://i1.wp.com/www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Men-in-Black-International.jpg?resize=768%2C511&ssl=1

First official pic

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

12-07-2018, 12:50 PM

https://i1.wp.com/www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Men-in-Black-International.jpg?resize=768%2C511&ssl=1

First official pic

Needs sunglasses. :tlol:

Autbot_Benz

12-19-2018, 06:42 PM

Looks like The Trailer is tommorow

https://mobile.twitter.com/DanielRPK/status/1075521107552333825

Andrew NDB

12-20-2018, 10:36 AM

Here it is:

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Powder

12-20-2018, 10:47 AM

Looks wack AF. Hard pass. Will & Tommy wouldn't make that look too much better, either.

Andrew NDB

12-20-2018, 10:55 AM

Looks like they're having Hemsworth reprise his Ghostbusters character for this?

Autbot_Benz

12-20-2018, 11:20 AM

I am gonna see this I have a soft spot for the MIB movies. Also Tessa Thompson is in it.

Allio

12-20-2018, 11:46 AM

I’m actually looking forward to this. I always feel like MiB is something that potentially could have an expansion universe akin to the big boys like Star Wars and evolve past just Lee and Smith, But I do feel like it may be too little to late for it.

I mean outside of the cartoon they had did MiB have anything to expand upon the films?

Outside of that? the trailer doesn’t really show much outside of what we associate with the MiB name so I can’t really say much of the film aside from “Yep, looks like man in blac

Andrew NDB

12-20-2018, 11:52 AM

I always feel like MiB is something that potentially could have an expansion universe akin to the big boys like Star Wars and evolve past just Lee and Smith

Possibly, but for me... they already had 3 movies and they never really wowed me. Maybe if they were actually "laugh out loud" funny. They suffer from a lot of... really, really white people writing jokey material for black guys. Like the Bad Boys movies (also not funny).

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

12-20-2018, 03:32 PM

It ain't Smith and Jones, but I'll watch it. I dug it. :tcool:

Krutch

12-20-2018, 05:24 PM

.....nahhhh didn't really care for it. Pass for me.

I wonder how many old white male actors are out of work now that you can't cast any in leadership roles anymore without scrutiny :roll:

Candy Kappa

12-20-2018, 05:29 PM

Looks okay

Wildcat

12-20-2018, 11:54 PM

Looks awesome. I love the MIB movies. Anyone writing it off just because it’s not Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones can keep right on hating. It’s the perfect way to expand the franchise.

This is exactly the direction Ghostbusters should have gone. Same continuity but different team.

drgon78

12-21-2018, 06:10 AM

I hope this is a lot better then the trailer because it looks terrible.

XERO

12-21-2018, 09:31 PM

I'm only watching because Tessa Thompson.

I can't wait until Thanos makes a cameo.

Leo656

12-21-2018, 09:40 PM

I'unno what it is - or isn't, as the case may be - but nothing about this series has ever popped me.

If nothing else, it's consistent, I guess.

XERO

12-21-2018, 09:41 PM

To be honest, I only ever watched the first one and some of the second one. I was at least lucky enough to catch the Michael Jackson scene, so that was nice. Haha.

3 I never bothered with.

Leo656

12-21-2018, 09:49 PM

I've never sat and watched them, frankly, but I've seen huge chunks of all three when other people are watching them in an adjacent room, usually while I'm cooking.

So I've gotten the gist, but never laughed once. I gather that they're supposedly comedies - which I'm generally not a huge fan of, anyway - but they didn't come across as very funny. Mostly just Fresh Prince doing his usual "Oh, HELL naw!" gimmick, but played against Tommy Lee Jones "cranky old white guy" gimmick for maximum contrast. Might've been a funny SNL skit, once upon a time, but I'unno if we needed a whole movie, let alone three or four-ish. Premise seems thin.

That's kind of my problem with comedies in general; things that are funny for 3-5 minutes, usually aren't funny when stretched over 90 minutes. Physicists call it the "Adam Sandler Effect", in homage to the fact that his albums are brilliant but his movies are ungodly terrible. Same thing.

XERO

12-21-2018, 09:55 PM

I hear you.

Just gotta apprehend that the first Independence Day happened around that time, and Will Smith was essentially the biggest movie star on the planet.

"Midas Touch" is an understatement. :trazz:

Leo656

12-21-2018, 10:04 PM

You would not be shocked to know that I never cared for that one, either.

I've noticed that I don't so much exist within pop culture, so much as "outside of and next to" it. :trazz:

As for Will Smith, I'm sure he's an extremely nice guy but his work never grabbed me. I mean, he's "fine", but if you've ever seen him give an interview you've seen his entire range.

This reboot seems like a "Harry Met Loyd" situation, where filmmakers try and squeeze a few more drops out of a tired premise despite the person 95% of the audience paid to see not being involved. But they still own the rights, so they're gonna cross their fingers and pray anyways.

Or, perhaps, a "Major League: Back to the Minors" situation. Y'know, whichever. :trazz:

Autbot_Benz

12-21-2018, 11:14 PM

I'm only watching because Tessa Thompson.

Same and cause I like the MIB series

Wildcat

12-22-2018, 12:56 AM

Ya know just because it’s a comedy doesn’t mean the audience has to find it hilarious from beginning to end. It’s an action movie with a comedic tone.

I’ve seen plenty of comedies that I really enjoyed but did not have laugh fits over. Significant, genuine, laughter can rarely be manufactured. I mean you don’t literally get struck with laughter every time you hear a good joke.

It’s hard to explain but I think people know what I mean.

Sometimes it’s just about enjoying a movie and the strange/silly situations characters get into.

Andrew NDB

12-22-2018, 03:45 AM

I've never sat and watched them, frankly, but I've seen huge chunks of all three when other people are watching them in an adjacent room, usually while I'm cooking.

So I've gotten the gist, but never laughed once. I gather that they're supposedly comedies - which I'm generally not a huge fan of, anyway - but they didn't come across as very funny. Mostly just Fresh Prince doing his usual "Oh, HELL naw!" gimmick, but played against Tommy Lee Jones "cranky old white guy" gimmick for maximum contrast. Might've been a funny SNL skit, once upon a time, but I'unno if we needed a whole movie, let alone three or four-ish. Premise seems thin.

Nail on the head. But I disagree on that last bit... the premise was golden. Fish out of water hood-ish guy being introduced to a super secret organization? We've seen this play out expertly in other, far better movies. Look at Kingsman 1. And that didn't even have aliens. And was far funnier.

It's all at a script level, the problems.

Sumac

12-22-2018, 06:09 AM

I like the first and third MIB movies.
First one is really good and funny, thanks for the chemistry between Smith and Jones, third is funny, though it feels really short.
Second movie, though is retreat of the first and had never grabbed me.

ranger_scout

01-10-2019, 01:20 PM

Lots of photos from Entertainment Weekly have been released.

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/ew1545_3287823978942390243.jpg?w=768

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/mib_7231239829031.jpg?w=768

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/mib_98291834654323.jpg?w=768

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/mib_9683677823444.jpg?w=768

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/mib_73467435345308.jpg?w=768

https://ewedit.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/mib_897328928323.jpg?w=768

See exclusive first-look photos from Men in Black: International (https://ew.com/movies/men-in-black-international-first-look-photos/#here-come-the-men-in-black)

Egon1982

01-24-2019, 01:07 PM

Looks like a half-assed cash-in that looks like a remake disguised as a spin-off/sequel.

Autbot_Benz

04-25-2019, 02:48 PM

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sdp

04-25-2019, 03:55 PM

I didn't even know there had been a Trailer #1 released yet, anywho I can't say I'm excited but it very much looks like MIB only without Will Smith.

Andrew NDB

06-12-2019, 12:05 PM

It's gotten the series' worst reviews already:
http://www.darkhorizons.com/mib-international-gets-series-worst-reviews/

oldmanwinters

06-12-2019, 12:11 PM

Here's my pitch for the paragraph program summary for the future TV reruns:

"Not-Thor and Not-Valkyrie team-up again under new aliases to bring order to Earth's secret infiltration of alien beings! Mischievous hijinks will ensue with hilarity!" [Vague references to the fact that you associate this series entirely with Will Smith will undoubtedly be included.]
:tlol:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

06-12-2019, 12:28 PM

Andrew NDB

06-12-2019, 01:35 PM

Is there any definitive word if Will or Tommy make any cameo?

ZariusTwo

06-14-2019, 11:25 AM

Is there any definitive word if Will or Tommy make any cameo?

There's cameos from a few old characters, but not them

Andrew NDB

06-16-2019, 01:49 PM

Tessa Thompson really wanted to change the name. Because inclusivity.

https://comicbook.com/movies/2019/06/13/men-in-black-tessa-thompson-franchise-inclusive-name-women-future/

Sumac

06-16-2019, 03:51 PM

And if it was Women in Black?

Or would it be like this: Superperson, Batperson, but Batwoman and Supergirl, right?

Andrew NDB

06-17-2019, 12:31 PM

Or would it be like this: Superperson, Batperson, but Batwoman and Supergirl, right?

lol... how true.

MIB: International bombing harder than Dark Phoenix:

http://epicstream.com/news/BayaniMiguelAcebedo/MIB-International-has-Bombed-Harder-than-X-Men-Dark-Phoenix?fbclid=IwAR2dKBeecHtxao5YHRqAKtHOjqgcnq4a7 4mAvqYVAGtWj3fR31wMvt8_UwI

Also more gems from Tessa Thompson:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/tessa-thompson-declined-say-classic-men-black-line-set-1218417

"We get to play buddies on a mission together, and we get to do that inside of a male/female pairing where we are equals in terms of screen time, agency and how much we mean to the plot. I think that’s really rare in terms of Hollywood films, unfortunately."

"Also, just having to take up space in a way that as a performer I haven’t, and frankly, as a woman I haven’t — inside of male-dominated spaces — and having to really do that."

"What I love about what we get to do is talk about millennial love and how that looks different inside of new ideas around family and partnership. "

"I mean the modern sensibility now, and the time that we’re in, would allow for a woman like me to topline a studio film like this, and I think that’s impactful."

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

06-17-2019, 01:02 PM

At this point, the dead horses killed by lead actresses promoting their films and talking about how powerful they are and how far we've come could supply a glue factory for the next decade.

Please. Stop talking about it. I get it. I support it. I'm in your corner. Just give me good movies, and stop talking about it.

I don't remember Charlize Theron going on and on about this with Atomic Blonde. Or Gal Gadot with Wonder Woman.

ProphetofGanja

06-17-2019, 03:01 PM

Most actors can’t talk about anything, politics or not, in an unscripted way without sounding kinda dumb/annoying

There’s a reason they’re actors and not writers :lol:

Coola Yagami

06-17-2019, 03:08 PM

lol... how true.

MIB: International bombing harder than Dark Phoenix:

http://epicstream.com/news/BayaniMiguelAcebedo/MIB-International-has-Bombed-Harder-than-X-Men-Dark-Phoenix?fbclid=IwAR2dKBeecHtxao5YHRqAKtHOjqgcnq4a7 4mAvqYVAGtWj3fR31wMvt8_UwI

Also more gems from Tessa Thompson:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/tessa-thompson-declined-say-classic-men-black-line-set-1218417

"We get to play buddies on a mission together, and we get to do that inside of a male/female pairing where we are equals in terms of screen time, agency and how much we mean to the plot. I think that’s really rare in terms of Hollywood films, unfortunately."

"Also, just having to take up space in a way that as a performer I haven’t, and frankly, as a woman I haven’t — inside of male-dominated spaces — and having to really do that."

"What I love about what we get to do is talk about millennial love and how that looks different inside of new ideas around family and partnership. "

"I mean the modern sensibility now, and the time that we’re in, would allow for a woman like me to topline a studio film like this, and I think that’s impactful."

I like how she ignores the women in films for the last 30 years or so. Oh no Tessa, you are definitely the first ever. :roll:

Sumac

06-18-2019, 12:23 AM

"What I love about what we get to do is talk about millennial love and how that looks different inside of new ideas around family and partnership. "
Communism, where everyone share everyone else? Thanks, but not thanks.

"I mean the modern sensibility now, and the time that we’re in, would allow for a woman like me to topline a studio film like this, and I think that’s impactful."
Ripley who? Sarah Connor who?

Allio

06-18-2019, 01:20 AM

actually just finished watching Men in Black 3 tonight. Gonna probably do International next monday.

Autbot_Benz

06-18-2019, 01:34 AM

In terms of Agenda Talking during movie press conferences. I still prefer Tessa Thompson's way of doing it over Brie Larson. Tessa is way more lax than Brie. At least Tessa wasn't whining about White Dudes and all that other crap Brie was saying

Andrew NDB

06-18-2019, 02:34 AM

Andrew NDB

06-18-2019, 02:10 PM

Apparently the director wanted to walk off the movie, there was two versions of it, and the version the director wanted was going to be a big "woke" thing about immigration and asylum (kind of like Star Trek: Picard will be):

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/men_in_black/men-in-black-international-expos-reveals-why-the-film-was-destined-to-fail-a169000?fbclid=IwAR2CF3RMNXVfsfK62rEjzoRskLBhCn4ca VzfG6FX1PuKE8T_YkPhYy-eDCE#.XQhgs4nf0Gg.facebook

The Deadman

07-19-2019, 12:11 PM

Ive seen this and it's definitely better than the abomination that was MiB3.

Andrew NDB

07-19-2019, 12:18 PM

Ive seen this and it's definitely better than the abomination that was MiB3.

Really? MiB3 was the only one I kind of liked.

The Deadman

07-19-2019, 12:19 PM

MiB3 was the worst of the original trilogy IMO. Having Tommy Lee Jones only show up for part of it was a bad move.

Autbot_Benz

07-19-2019, 12:23 PM

Men In Black 3 is awesome its a great time travel story and ends the J and K story perfectly. I never understand the hate it gets. Its better than MIB 2

Andrew NDB

07-19-2019, 12:23 PM

MiB3 was the worst of the original trilogy IMO. Having Tommy Lee Jones only show up for part of it was a bad move.

I'm pretty sure that was his wish.

ZariusTwo

07-19-2019, 12:31 PM

Men In Black 3 is awesome its a great time travel story and ends the J and K story perfectly. I never understand the hate it gets. Its better than MIB 2

Agreed

..Though I do like MIB 2 just a little...I love how it begins.

drgon78

07-19-2019, 01:18 PM

I love MIB 1 and 3, 2 is okay.

Andrew NDB

07-19-2019, 01:38 PM

MiB 1 was oh-kay (highly overrated), 2 was straight up TERRIBLE, and 3 wasn't great but I was impressed with its heart towards the end there.

And none of them were funny.

Sumac

07-19-2019, 09:10 PM

MIB1 was the best - its perfectly nailed balance between action and comedy.
MIB2 was bad. Boring.
MIB3 was very good. Almost as good as the first. Lots of fun action, if a bit short.

Andrew NDB

08-26-2019, 05:30 PM

Saw this movie. Not really BAD bad, but a little cringeworthy when they devote almost an entire scene to Tessa Thompson and Emma Thompson muttering about how the name should be "People in Black" or "Men and Women in Black."

None of the jokes were remotely funny.

Tessa Thompson's character isn't likeable at all. She isn't really given a human pulse. Her whole role consists of just being super smart and poking holes in the patriarchy and toxic masculinity.

Chris Hemsworth just plays a slightly smarter version of his role in Ghostbusters and National Lampoon's Vacation.

Also, completely predictable.

TigerClaw

08-26-2019, 06:12 PM