Rush hour 4?

[newfan]

This was probably talked about already as it goes back to 2012 apparently but Jackie Chan has said it's still going forward, Pending Chris Tucker being on board.

Anyone know much about it?

[sdp]

Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker have always said yes but nothing has come out of it for all this time, then again RH3 was similar and only happened randomly so anything is possible.

I love the rush hour trilogy humor (https://miscrave.com/articles/rush-hour-trilogy/) I would like to see it, counting that the Shanghai series is getting its third film maybe we will see a revival of more American Jackie Chan projects. Rush Hour is likely his most popular mainstream american film and since the TV project died after one season they might want to try a go at the film franchise again.

I love the first film and never liked the second, the third one being ok but I would need to re-watch them all. I also love that the film series is named Rush Hour and the only reference is a piece of dialog that has no baring in the plot or anything whatsoever :lol:

Rush Hour 2 was my first DVD, I remember it felt so "futuristic" to own it with its animated menus and what not.

[newfan]

It just came up today but it sounds like it's not going to happen then. I remember liking them but don't remember them well, I'll have to re-watch them.

I remember my first DVD ....how time passes... I do not remember my first VHS :)

[The Deadman]

I dont think anything can top the first 2, to be honest.

[Powder]

I'm a big fan of the series & would of course welcome more but here's the thing-

1. Jackie himself does not care for the films. He considers Chris a good friend, had fun, etc. but is not too proud of the material. He's even told his Asian fans not to bother watching them. He has said he'd only do it (if the script & everything made sense) for the sake of his loyal American fanbase, which is nice, but as a hardcore JC fan, I personally wouldn't wanna see him do something he's not into.

2. Jackie's a lot older now. His acting is better than ever, but the stunt work may not be as intense as before. Wouldn't bother me much, but we all know that the action is a big selling point.

3. The third one was not too great. It felt very different tonally/visually, somehow, despite having more or less the right stuff. You can't always recreate the magic.

[CyberCubed]

I'd love to see it, but I don't know how they can make the jokes/humor as funny at this point. After 3 movies they pretty much exhausted all the "black and Asian" jokes they possibly could, as well as French jokes in the third.

I guess they could just focus on making a fun gangster movie or whatever, but they already did focus on Asian Triads in the movie. The third had Jackie's brother as the main villain.

[sdp]

Jackie has a lot of unpopular opinions and changes his mind all the time, he's like a polititian. Jackie has been old for over ten years now and has barely done any action scenes but that was true even in the early 00's which is why many of his movies featured a lot of CG, none of the Rush Hour movies ever featured a lot of martial arts, not even the first one.

The third RH IMO was better than the second one, the chemistry with Chan/Tucker is what made the films so great and I think they can make a movie that will at least be as good as the previous sequels, which are poor but had a few decent things.

I mean it's not like Jackie Chan has been doing anything worthwhile since he left Hollywood in the late 00's. He already tainted the legacy of Police Story not once but twice with those horrible reboots.

I'm open to recommendations for post 2010 Jackie Chan films, I've only seen a couple like Chinese Zodiac and Police Story 2013 but those were bad.

New Police Story from 2004 might not have been that bad but it was way too long which made it boring, had no humor nor anything that would make this a spiritual sequel to Police Story which is why the name of the last two Police Story reboots is baffling. Hell even that Supercop 2 Police Story spin-off feels more like a Police Story film.

Hell I remember the Jackie Chan fandom finding any Jackie chan film from the 90s and up as trash since Hollywood had "tainted" his career by then and I was the "casual/black sheep" for enjoying movies like Mr. Nice Guy, First Strike and the like. I can also enjoy the goofy ass gimmicky films Jackie Chan did in the 00's after hitting mainstream success like The Tuxedo and the Medallion, hell even Spy Next Door. Jackie explained since he couldn't do those crazy stunts anymore he preferred these type of films, but then after making a few flops he blames hollywood and goes to China to be the communist parties puppet for the sake of fame and shows us how he wants to be a "dramatic" actor now with boring ass films.

I still love the guy, he's made more awesome movies than most actors ever will and I don't take his controversial comments too seriously.

[CyberCubed]

I mean it's not like Jackie Chan has been doing anything worthwhile since he left Hollywood in the late 00's. He already tainted the legacy of Police Story not once but twice with those horrible reboots.

The Police Story from the early 2000's was pretty good. The 2013 one was kinda bad or meh, but I didn't mind it too much.

Also there's still plenty of good Jackie films in the 2000's, look through his IDMB page.

[CyberCubed]

I imagine because Asian fans who grew up with him were nostalgic for his 70's/80's movies, and just like western fans, are under the impression that, "everything new is crap, only the old stuff is good."

Granted Jackie getting older and performing less stunts and action scenes is obviously part of it, but don't say even Asians are bias when it comes to nostalgia, especially if they grew up in the 70's/80's.

[Leofan26]

How old is Jackie chan? Can he still do these exciting stunts?

If anything I'd take a live action film of Jackie Chan's adventures, seasons one and two wouldn't be too hard to work as a live action film right?

[CyberCubed]

He's 63. I can see him still working till he's 70. We probably have at least another 7 years worth of him left.

Then again he might be like Clint Eastwood and continue working into his 80's, lol.

[DestronMirage22]

I’d love a fourth Rush Hour.
I’ve always enjoyed the first three. Jackie Chan and Chris Tucker together make for some very entertaining times.

[Andrew NDB]

Seeking a studio. Doesn't sound particularly promising.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/rush-hour-4-producers-seek-a-studio/

[sdp]

The President is pressuring for Rush hour 4 to be made, he can still save his second term if this gets greenlit.
https://www.semafor.com/article/11/23/2025/how-trump-is-trying-to-remake-american-culture-starting-with-rush-hour

[Coola Yagami]

Imagine if the movie turns out to be a big success and is 100% undeniably funny. The wokes would have no choice but to thank Trump for it.

[CyberCubed]

Jackie Chan was just in Karate Kid Legends and I'm pretty sure the 2 minute fight scene he had was a stunt double. Jackie can't really do anything anymore.

[Andrew NDB]

Jackie Chan was just in Karate Kid Legends and I'm pretty sure the 2 minute fight scene he had was a stunt double.

Pretty sure that was Jackie. But they were doing something digital to his face and he was wearing a wig to look somewhat younger there.

[ZariusTwo]

It's happening

https://deadline.com/2025/11/rush-hour-4-paramount-release-brett-ratner-1236628468/

[sdp]

https://media.tenor.com/-20SYgXaNLEAAAAe/trump-winning.png

[Andrew NDB]

Do we HAVE to have Ratner? Whatever.

It seems like a lifetime ago I watched those movies. I do remember being disappointed with Rush Hour 3, and that Tucker looked FAT in it. And that was like 20 years ago now.

[sdp]

They're both too old, movie should've been done ten years ago at the latest. But I'm sure the writing will take into consideration they're both last their prime and they'll be joking about that more than race this time around.
I'm glad it's happening, they have chemistry so it should get a few chuckles in the worst case scenario

[CyberCubed]

So we're getting both The Mummy 4 and Rush Hour 4? Early 2000's is back, everyone!

We're finally done mining nostalgia from 80's/90's movies, now it's early 2000's movies time!

[sdp]

hell yeah, 2K nostalgia. I went from kid to teenager to adult in that decade.

The possibilities are endless. a new Matrix movie, Donnie Darko 3, Shia Labouf+Hillary duff crossover movie, Olsen Twins movie, The Dark Knight 4, Polar Express 2, School of Rock 2, A Juno remake but this time Juno is a transman who gets pregnant, Brokeback Mountain but this time it's 2 lesbians since lesbians were still sexy in the 2000s. All these movies with a nu-metal soundtrack.

[Andrew NDB]

They're both too old, movie should've been done ten years ago at the latest. But I'm sure the writing will take into consideration they're both last their prime and they'll be joking about that more than race this time around.
I'm glad it's happening, they have chemistry so it should get a few chuckles in the worst case scenario

I would hope they'd joke about more stuff than age or even race. There's PLENTY more to lampoon now than there was in the 2000s.

Speaking of such, it's passed time for Demolition Man 2.

[CyberCubed]

God Matrix 4 was so bad I forgot it already came out. We already got a god awful Matrix sequel and it was even worse than 3. :lol:

Also forgot about Shrek 5 which has already been announced. We also already saw the return of Tobey Maguire and Hugh Jackman as early 2000's popular superheroes too. I'm not sure sure what else early 2000's movies there are to mine as a lot of them were just one-off movies or comedies.

Of course Quentin Tarantino's movies were all coming out then, the Star Wars prequels (which we already got sequels with and Obi-wan series), the Batman movies, Bad Boys with Will Smith got two sequels, etc.

[sdp]

I just remembered the rush hour tv series that came out during the pandemic.
That was the peak of woke and cancel culture, what did they even joke about. Did anyone actually watch?
Who thought it was a good idea to make a Jackie/tucker show with neither of them

[Andrew NDB]

God Matrix 4 was so bad I forgot it already came out. We already got a god awful Matrix sequel and it was even worse than 3. :lol:

And 5 is being made right now. And I believe 2 was the real dud of the original trilogy, but it's hard to look at 2 and 3 as anything other than 1 bloated movie.

4 really was disappointing. It's almost like you were mostly watching a movie about making a fourth Matrix movie, and not a movie itself. I think there was too much feeling clever going on with that.

[sdp]

I feel I'm the only one person who loved Matrix 4, it was literally made for me. I liked that it kept continuity with 2/3 while still telling those movies to **** off since they sucked. It's easily the best one since the original even if a bit of a requel.
The Matrix defined 00s movies, every movie is directly inspired by it with slow motion, black cool trench coats, etc. It took most of the decade before hollywood started aping other stuff.

I'm not sure sure what else early 2000's movies there are to mine as a lot of them were just one-off movies or comedies.

Well we've been enjoying 00s nostalgia for a while now. This is why Tobey returning and x-men crew in select MCU movies were such big deals.
The 2000s was the beginning of the Superhero movies even if the cinematic universe that became popular in the 2010s hadn't exactly formed just yet.

The avatar sequels are sort of nostalgia of the 00s that's when it first came out, and felt new and every new movie was in 3D. Horny comedies are going to be hard to get people excited to actually remake when people can just goon easily on Tiktok.

2010s nostalgia is going to take a long time since only now are people realizing Marvel is slop, it'll take many more years before people are nostalgic. Have you had conversations with normies about marvel, they all speak of the pre End Game era as if it were some golden time and how much it sucks now. There's no way Disney can turn it around anymore.

[Andrew NDB]

I feel I'm the only one person who loved Matrix 4, it was literally made for me. I liked that it kept continuity with 2/3 while still telling those movies to **** off since they sucked.

THAT'S what you got out of 4? I didn't get that at all from it. Like the Wachowski that did 4 said, it was just a different sort of movie about resurrecting "mom and dad," with not a whole lot of interest in getting back to the superheroics of 2 and 3. Not because there's any resentment for them, but just because that's a radically different story than what's going on in 4.

[IMJ]

They're both too old, movie should've been done ten years ago at the latest. But I'm sure the writing will take into consideration they're both last their prime and they'll be joking about that more than race this time around.
I'm glad it's happening, they have chemistry so it should get a few chuckles in the worst case scenario

Eh, they pulled it off with Lethal Weapon 4......

Speaking of such, it's passed time for Demolition Man 2.

I would absolutely be down for that....

I feel I'm the only one person who loved Matrix 4, it was literally made for me. I liked that it kept continuity with 2/3 while still telling those movies to **** off since they sucked. It's easily the best one since the original even if a bit of a requel.

You have unique tastes, SDP. That movie was so dull that it the best part about it was that it bordered on parody of the original trilogy.

Still - I'd buy it on boomer-disc I suppose if one day they finally released a 4k boxed set that included the Animatrix. That cool anthology all but disappeared from pop culture.

THAT'S what you got out of 4? I didn't get that at all from it. Like the Wachowski that did 4 said, it was just a different sort of movie about resurrecting "mom and dad," with not a whole lot of interest in getting back to the superheroics of 2 and 3. Not because there's any resentment for them, but just because that's a radically different story than what's going on in 4.


Exactly. It wasn't even a "real Matrix" entry. It was basically a gay-power fantasy about being able to go back home. Psychology plastered all over that one...

[sdp]

If you want me to expand then sure:
The movie acknowledges 2/3 happened, but reboots it as "well the machines are still doing what they want even if humans are technically free". So it kinda goes back to the ending of the first movie where the power dynamic of yeah you have the machines but at the same time humans now have power as well. The movie in general is a love story about Trinity and Neo and it worked really well for me while at the same time setting up a universe where they can make new movies after this one. Which clearly didn't happen since this one bombed so bad. But yeah, I liked it but I understand how the meta commentary of the first 40 minutes filtered pretty much everyone.

Still - I'd buy it on boomer-disc I suppose if one day they finally released a 4k boxed set that included the Animatrix. That cool anthology all but disappeared from pop culture.


That's another trend from the 2000s that should come back. Those weird Direct to video anime interquels of movies. Animatrix was great, Riddick got one of those as well, Batman Begins also had one. There's others I'm forgetting, Hellboy and some others.

[Andrew NDB]

at the same time setting up a universe where they can make new movies after this one. Which clearly didn't happen since this one bombed so bad.

They're making Matrix 5 right now. Like I just said.

[IMJ]

Yeah the second Riddick movie really drew me in, and I bought (and I think I still have) that animated bridge-flick. But then as I saw the rest of them I realized that the 2nd Riddick flick was the odd-man-out and that I didn't really like the franchise all that much.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah the second Riddick movie really drew me in, and I bought (and I think I still have) that animated bridge-flick. But then as I saw the rest of them I realized that the 2nd Riddick flick was the odd-man-out and that I didn't really like the franchise all that much.

Chronicles of Riddick sucked. "Let's take the murderous bad guy from Pitch Black and try and build a Star Wars universe around him... in glorious PG-13." The closest thing to it is, you know those Snyder Rebel Moon movies on Netflix? It's like that but even worse, I think.

[CyberCubed]

It's funny how many movie series were in their early installements in the early 2000's. Mission Impossible with Tom Cruise only had 3 movies by the early 2000's...can you believe that? Fast and Furious got their start back then and now have like 10+ movies, the Harry Potter movies just started, the James Bond movies with Daniel Craig had just begun, the MCU wouldn't even start till 2008 and we just had Spider-man and X-men basically. Batman Begins had come in 2005, the Star Wars prequels were still going, etc.

Man, feels like a lifetime ago.

[sdp]

I'm also a fan of Chronicles of Riddick and don't care for pitch black which seems generic.theyre different movies so I understand how one can like one and not the other. But I guess Riddick 4 might happen.

[Andrew NDB]

But I guess Riddick 4 might happen.

Depending on what you read, it completed shooting over this past summer or it fell apart on the launch lad.

[Andrew NDB]

Speaking of the Matrix...

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