X-men the 90's Cartoon turns 25

[Autbot_Benz]

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I grew up with this Cartoon. I still love it. Did a lot of the Comics better than any of the Singer X-men Movies. Loved the Cartoon version of Wolverine Beast and Gambit

[plastroncafe]

This show was destination television for me when it was on running.

Did they run episodes out of order for anyone else? Or was that a local thing that only happened in my region.

I think that's what made it feel like the comic for me, I had no idea what was going on from episode to episode.
Loved it.

[Autbot_Benz]

The way they showed Racism towards Mutants in that Cartoon is basically what's going on today in the real world

[oldmanwinters]

Did they run episodes out of order for anyone else? Or was that a local thing that only happened in my region.

Yeah, it was a mess for everybody, I think. And sometimes there would be different versions of episodes to air (and re-air) with revised animation frames. That wasn't uncommon back in the day, as sometimes overseas animation studios produced late or unsatisfactory work.

I think the gap between Phoenix and Dark Phoenix Saga was one of the worst offenders. "No Mutant Is an Island" aired way out of order and there are confirmed multiple versions:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Marvel/comments/6fdmv2/the_xmen_episode_no_mutant_is_an_island_has/

[CyberCubed]

I grew up with X-men Evolution as my first X-men cartoon:

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Aired in the early 2000's on KidsWB on Saturday Mornings, loosely based on the X-men movies that came out at the same time.

Was a great series, too bad it ended right before they could do the Dark Pheonix story.

[Cure]

Yeah, Evolution is way better. The 90's cartoon is ugly and convoluted and weird.

[plastroncafe]

Which makes it a pretty damn fine adaptation of the source material.

[Cure]

You got me there.

[Spike Spiegel]

Yeah, Evolution is way better. The 90's cartoon is ugly and convoluted and weird.

https://i.imgur.com/s4eamxv.jpg?fb

I remember first seeing the 90s show in reruns on ABC Family in around 2001, when Evolution was in its second season or so. It holds up in a way that things from the same time, like MMPR, just don't. There's also a great synergy between it and the Jim Lee era comics from the '90s.

Even today, I can't read Beast, Wolverine, or Rogue's dialogue in the comics without hearing George Buza, Cathal Dodd and Lenore Zann's respective voices.

I'm so glad the show finally got a full DVD release a few years ago.

[Autbot_Benz]

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I remember first seeing the 90s show in reruns on ABC Family in around 2001, when Evolution was in its second season or so. It holds up in a way that things from the same time, like MMPR, just don't. There's also a great synergy between it and the Jim Lee era comics from the '90s.

Even today, I can't read Beast, Wolverine, or Rogue's dialogue in the comics without hearing George Buza, Cathal Dodd and Lenore Zann's respective voices.

I'm so glad the show finally got a full DVD release a few years ago.

same here once i saw the Dvd's got released I nabbed them. Now if only Disney and Marvel would get off there butts and release the Spider-Man 94 cartoon

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[ZariusTwo]

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The 90's cartoon is ugly and convoluted and weird.

Which is why it's superior.

Evolution is vastly overrated. Half of it doesn't hold up, it never had a decent season finale other than when the school got outed either. Just a very boring show that had a wealth of potential.

Can you even think of one memorable line from Evolution? Seriously, 90s X-Men has THOUSANDS of meme worthy dialouge

"I AM STILL PLUGGED IN"

same here once i saw the Dvd's got released I nabbed them. Now if only Disney and Marvel would get off there butts and release the Spider-Man 94 cartoon

https://i.imgur.com/qyAIZEC.jpg

Just buy a regionless player and purchase the complete set they released in Europe

[Spike Spiegel]

Can you even think of one memorable line from Evolution? Seriously, 90s X-Men has THOUSANDS of meme worthy dialouge

"I AM STILL PLUGGED IN"

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I forgot all about that.

I've always liked how Storm was like the William Shatner of this show.

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"Swirl, mighty winds, and carry us to JEEEEEEEAAAN!"

Nobody ever seems to talk about Wolverine and the X-Men, though...

[Cure]

Can you even think of one memorable line from Evolution? Seriously, 90s X-Men has THOUSANDS of meme worthy dialouge

I don't really watch **** thinking about "memes" but sure, whatevs.

[plastroncafe]

I don't either, but I do enjoy a good meme when it happens.

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[sdp]

X-Men TAS get a lot of undeserved hate because its "cool" to hate on it on the internet but its by far the best X-Men show we've gotten at least in terms of adapting stories from the comics.

Yeah the animations and dialog might not have aged the best but think of the time it was released, it was as ground breaking as BTAS was and yet it doesn't get the recognition. We had on going storylines, controversial themes, hell the Red Sky seasons of TMNT were made because of it and there were many shows that dealt with the theme of "mutants not being wanted" or similar stuff in the 90s all coming from X-Men. All the Marvel Animated shows we got in the 90s including Spider-Man were thanks to it as well.

I'm surprised with how much the show was able to get through and even the last season which is cheaply animated gave us a decent series finale for the time.

X-Men Evolution is pretty good too, though it's indeed overrated, it also took a while to get good, the first season is awful with the whole "X-Men in school" idea luckily they got rid of that for the most part starting with season 2. It had a good run but hardly the best interpretation of X-Men.

Wolverine & The X-Men made by the same writers of Evolution is also pretty good, but it only lasted one season, so not enough time to really become the best animated show but it had a good run.

[PApagreg]

You know this is the first time I hear people say X men Evolution is overrated and X men TAs is overhated, usually its the other way around also put me in the camp that prefers Evolution over TAS. I thought the high school aspect was executed well and it didn't get bogged down to crazy plot points and an overwhelming amount of mutants during the 1st season also I didn't care for 90s Marvel Aesthetic

[sdp]

Well it depends where you're getting the opinions from, if you get it from "casuals" on say FB you'll get people who grew up with X-Men TAS as the greatest thing ever without even have watched Evolution.

When you get to the nerdier parts of the internet then everyone disses x-men and praises evolution as if it were the greatest thing ever which it isn't. I still like Evolution, good show good finale, it didn't need the phoenix saga.

[Sumac]

I loved this cartoon.
I loved how it had lots of arcs and stories intertwined, however, sometimes, it was hard to follow what's going on, because, sometimes I have missed episode or two.

I know, nowadays it's a fad to hate it, as well, as OT TMNT and 90-s Spider Man, but I think it was a decent show for a time when it was released.

[Allio]

https://youtu.be/2rSw4Xl5qfs

Japanese opening is grand

[Wesley]

One of my favourite cartoons as a kid, though I’ve moved on from the X-Men franchise nowadays. It was good for its time, though, and I liked Evolution as well as a teenager.

[sdp]

I know, nowadays it's a fad to hate it, as well, as OT TMNT and 90-s Spider Man, but I think it was a decent show for a time when it was released.

90s Spider-Man also gets shat on a lot but it's also fantastic and gives us a great look at the spider-mythos. Only big character they messed up was Electro, it was just a fun show with a lot of cool things happening in it. Spider-Man not being able to punch never bothered me, I mean it's Spidey not Batman, who cares. I never noticed the censoring of Morbius not being able to bite his victims and the hand suckers were definitely unintentionally creepier.

Probably not as good as X-Men overall but more fun. All the other Marvel shows from the 90s besides maybe Silver Surfer were definitely lacking, and that includes the second seasons of Iron Man and Fantastic Four which get undeserved praise online. I mean they're not horrible shows but they're just alright at their best and generic most of the time.

[PApagreg]

Spider-Man not being able to punch never bothered me, I mean it's Spidey not Batman, who cares.
I mean Spidy is known for fighting his opponents and it was an action cartoon so lots of people care.

[Sumac]

90s Spider-Man also gets shat on a lot but it's also fantastic and gives us a great look at the spider-mythos. Only big character they messed up was Electro, it was just a fun show with a lot of cool things happening in it. Spider-Man not being able to punch never bothered me, I mean it's Spidey not Batman, who cares. I never noticed the censoring of Morbius not being able to bite his victims and the hand suckers were definitely unintentionally creepier.

Probably not as good as X-Men overall but more fun. All the other Marvel shows from the 90s besides maybe Silver Surfer were definitely lacking, and that includes the second seasons of Iron Man and Fantastic Four which get undeserved praise online. I mean they're not horrible shows but they're just alright at their best and generic most of the time.
Spider Man 90-s cartoon was my first entry to spider-mythos and idea of long story arcs, where every episode mattered to the plot development.
In many ways, I've learned a lot from it about how to construct story arcs and how to intertwine them.

X-men had something similar, but I have missed a lot of its episodes, so never was able to keep myself up to date on what was going on. Spider Man, however, had several runs on our TV (on different channels and not all seasons have been broadcasted, though), but it least it was always broadcasted in convenient time and it had a relatively good dub, by Russian dub standards, of course.

Until I've read that Spider Man in 90-s cartoon was not allowed to punch enemies, I've never noticed that he never did it. :tlol:

I also have seen other Marvel cartoons, like Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk and Fantastic Four, but none of them impressed me much. Well, maybe second season of Iron Man, which had a long arc about Mandarin getting back his rings, but that's it.

[ranger_scout]

I only watched a few episodes of this series during its initial run as a kid. I did see a few more on cable in later years. Now I am watching the whole series and DVD and it's GREAT. The Hollywood Reporter did an interview with some of the cast and crew.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/x-men-animated-series-story-90s-cartoon-hit-1052263

[ranger_scout]

Den of Geek listed the most essential episodes of the TV series.

http://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/x-men/262962/x-men-the-animated-series-the-essential-episodes

[Wesley]

90s Spider-Man also gets shat on a lot but it's also fantastic and gives us a great look at the spider-mythos. Only big character they messed up was Electro, it was just a fun show with a lot of cool things happening in it. Spider-Man not being able to punch never bothered me, I mean it's Spidey not Batman, who cares. I never noticed the censoring of Morbius not being able to bite his victims and the hand suckers were definitely unintentionally creepier.

Probably not as good as X-Men overall but more fun. All the other Marvel shows from the 90s besides maybe Silver Surfer were definitely lacking, and that includes the second seasons of Iron Man and Fantastic Four which get undeserved praise online. I mean they're not horrible shows but they're just alright at their best and generic most of the time.

Sdp, I agree with what you said about the 90s Marvel cartoons. Also, I liked that a lot of Marvel characters such as Iron Man and Daredevil guest starred on Spiderman, The Incredible Hulk, etc, as it was a good introduction to them, years before they appeared in live-action.

[ranger_scout]

The cast reunited to remember Norm Spencer, the voice of Cyclops.

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[Coola Yagami]

it was just a fun show with a lot of cool things happening in it. Spider-Man not being able to punch never bothered me.

It's funny that I didn't notice until I rewatched it a few times. Like they would get clever with it, a lot of times Spidey would do the pose but something would always prevent him from actually throwing the punch. But due to him always flipping around, webbing guys up and doing that swinging kick, you don't really notice too much. It also helps that while Spider-Man does throw punches in the comics, he's not particularly known for punching in general, just webbing things up and flipping around. Kinda like Wolverine, also not afraid of throwing a punch, but he's more known for slicing **** up with his claws.

Now someone like The Thing for example... it would be hard without letting punch things.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Still my fav series, such a shame about Norm. Good to see the cast.