Morbius the Living Vampire Movie in the Works With 'Power Rangers' Writers

[Autbot_Benz]

Sony’s cinematic universe based on Spider-Man characters just got a little bigger.

The studio is developing Morbius, a feature project centered on Spider-Man antihero Morbius the Living Vampire.

Burk Sharpless and Matt Sazama, who worked on the recent Power Rangers movie, wrote the script, which was just submitted to the studio after a secret development process.

Morbius was created by writer Roy Thomas and artist Gil Kane and first appeared in Amazing Spider-Man #101, the first issue not written by Spider-Man co-creator Stan Lee.

Morbius is Dr. Michael Morbius, a scientist who suffered from a rare blood disease and attempted to cure himself to disastrous results. He instead became afflicted with a condition that was a form of vampirism — the thirst for blood, along with fangs and super strength — and fought Spider-Man. Over time, however, he became a slightly heroic figure in his own right.

Details of Sony’s take on the character are not known.

Sony has been furiously developing its stable of Marvel-licensed characters that are mostly based off the heroes and villains that are connected to Spider-Man. The studio, however, is being coy as to whether or not these new movies will be connected to Sony’s Tom Holland movies or connected to the Marvel Cinematic Universe that is being produced by Marvel Studios.

Sony had no comment.

Sharpless and Sazama previously tackled vampirism with Dracula Untold, Universal’s origin of the most famous vampire that starred Luke Evans. They also count The Last Witch Hunter and Gods of Egypt among their credits.

The duo also are showrunning and writing the Lost in Space reboot for Netflix that is to debut next year.

They are repped by ICM Partners.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/spider-man-spinoff-morbius-living-vampire-movie-works-power-rangers-writers-1056702

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

No matter how much or hard we mock Sony, they keep throwing these out there.

Cripes.

[Autbot_Benz]

No matter how much or hard we mock Sony, they keep throwing these out there.

Cripes.

they are taking the DCEU approach throw **** out there and see if any of it gets made

[TheSkeletonMan939]

Haha, this isn't actually going to get a green light, right? Right?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

they are taking the DCEU approach throw **** out there and see if any of it gets made

Hey now! The DCEU is miles ahead of Sony.

They're just also miles behind the MCU... :tsad:

[Spike Spiegel]

Words of wisdom from another vampire in the Marvel universe:

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/61106550/some-mothers-are-always-trying-to-ice-skate-uphill.jpg

[Powder]

Morbius might be my favorite Spiderman villain, but I don't think I want this. :tlol:

[Candy Kappa]

Um, okay.

It's like they're trying to make "fetch" happen

[DestronMirage22]

Ah, Sony.
You never change do you?
*smh*

[Andrew NDB]

This would only interest me if it were somehow tied to a Blade revival. I can't imagine it is, though.

[Autbot_Benz]

First look at Morbius Trailer Monday

https://i.imgur.com/lksZsOy.jpg

[IMJ]

This would only interest me if it were somehow tied to a Blade revival. I can't imagine it is, though.

Interestingly enough, three years later you have your Blade revival coming (Blade: Revival... lol that would be a good double entendre name for a film), but it has nothing to do with Morbius, operated by Sony.

Not unlless they go beyond the planned Spider-Man appearance in Venom to mix all of the Sony-verse with the MCU.

[AquaParade]

From that glimpse, it looks awesome.

Venom looks awesome too though and I can’t finish that movie.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I'm actually kind of interested in this, but only because I am somewhat familiar with Morbius, and have always kind of liked him as a character. Venom, Morbius, Blade- it sounds liket hey are gearing up to do a Nightstalkers movie! All they need is Hannibal King and maybe Dracula to fill out their cast roster.

[TigerClaw]

The Trailer is expected to drop tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1216470574018572289?s=20

Also that Morbius appears to be close to the Comics.

https://scontent-mia3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/81833590_10157229536583380_4340496573562617856_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ohc=LU7wpx714DkAQlyH2EKcdG8ryanrQ-AKyYa1j6iZFlaLEuUcwbxdkhjKg&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-2.xx&oh=a94944f1f9ede9ecc699df05b76d5992&oe=5EAEFEED

[Autbot_Benz]

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[Voltron]

God dammit. Is that Jared Leto? Pass.

And here I was letting myself hope.

[Andrew NDB]

Bland and lame looking.

[AquaParade]

That is some stinky ass shared-universe bait, unless Michael Keaton is, in fact, playing Adrian Toomes in this film. How about that Spider-Man "murderer" poster though? That certainly implies that this is an extension of the MCU, even if the poster is featuring a video-game screenshot of the Sam Raimi suit. Oh boy.

Hard to say with this one, but I have very little faith. The trailer though is just terrible. I won't place that on the movie.

[Andrew NDB]

What's the thing with these trailers about... we'll show you a bunch of crap, and then in the last 2 seconds before the credits splash we'll show you a TINY glimpse of what the titular character actually looks like.

[AquaParade]

What's the thing with these trailers about... we'll show you a bunch of crap, and then in the last 2 seconds before the credits splash we'll show you a TINY glimpse of what the titular character actually looks like.

I would have cut it into a third, upped the ominous music, given a couple more of those intense Morbius vampire shots. I was bored with all the build-up the trailer did.

That said, I didn't major in marketing or anything. Maybe they know what sells, but this certainly wasn't an appealing trailer to me. I have less interest in the film now than I did a few days ago.

[Andrew NDB]

The build-up stuff only works if it's a well established character we're all very eager to see. Like Superman in the Man of Steel trailers, or Spider-Man in the Spider-Man trailers.

Morbius? Nobody has any idea who he is. And it's fine that nobody does, this just isn't the way to sell this.

[AquaParade]

I can see that you may be right, but I'm sure their thinking is the opposite. I can understand the rational behind "Nobody knows this character, so we better use this trailer to set him up, introduce him, etc.".

But to your point, it's rather quite boring to follow the origin through that many steps, and leaves me feeling like the film will be plodding and slow. I think that's sort of what happens when you weigh out a trailer in this way.

It's not that I want them to give me all the good stuff. Less could have been more. Just balanced out a bit.

[drgon78]

Looks interesting to me, so I will be seeing this one after all.

[Autbot_Benz]

Pushed back to March 19, 2021

https://collider.com/ghostbusters-morbius-uncharted-release-date-delayed/?utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter

[neatoman]

Pushed back to March 19, 2021

https://collider.com/ghostbusters-morbius-uncharted-release-date-delayed/?utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter

Wow... Really? Not quite New Mutants levels of silly but still.

[Autbot_Benz]

Wow... Really? Not quite New Mutants levels of silly but still.

Sony did that with all the movies this year Peter Rabbit 2 Ghostbusters Afterlife and so on.

[Autbot_Benz]

Now Morbius won't be out until October 8th 2021

https://comicbook.com/movies/news/morbius-release-date-delayed-again-coronavirus-pandemic/

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Poor Michael. He just can't catch a break, even when it comes to the release of his movie.

[AquaParade]

Whatever happened to Venom sequel? Didn't that finish filming early on in 2020? They must be wrapped by now.

[frank_one]

Whatever happened to Venom sequel? Didn't that finish filming early on in 2020? They must be wrapped by now.From wikipedia:
Venom: Let There Be Carnage is scheduled to be released in the United States on June 25, 2021, delayed from an initial October 2020 date due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

[AquaParade]

Thanks. I shouldn't ask questions that are easy to search for, but I appreciate it. I didn't enjoy Venom, but I'm still as curious about the sequel as I was about the original, so that's something.

[Andrew NDB]

Now Morbius won't be out until October 8th 2021

https://comicbook.com/movies/news/morbius-release-date-delayed-again-coronavirus-pandemic/

Now January 21st, 2022.

Jesus.

[Autbot_Benz]

Now January 21st, 2022.

Jesus.

WTF just throw this up on a streaming service already

[AquaParade]

It's possible there are MCU tie-ins that they need to delay for.

[Andrew NDB]

It's possible there are MCU tie-ins that they need to delay for.

Possibly. There are new reshoots and Morbius might just bump into Blade:

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/spider-man/morbius/morbius-star-jared-leto-confident-the-living-vampire-will-one-day-meet-blade-confirms-more-reshoots-a182080#gs.sagq85

[ZariusTwo]

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Trailer tomorrow.

[ProphetofGanja]

tbh I had completely forgotten about this movie (and my hype level is still hovering somewhere around a 2.5) but I am a little intrigued now with all the other things going on in the Marvel/Sony movies

[Leo656]

I'm amazed Jared Leto gets so much work considering everyone is supposed to hate him nowadays. :lol:

[ZariusTwo]

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Trailer

[Andrew NDB]

There's the Oscorp building, too. Does that look like the Raimi one? It's not the Amazing Spider-Man one.

I'm really wondering how they're going to reconcile this all. It was one thing when I assumed they would just keep the Sony universe a corner of the MCU that the MCU itself doesn't really reference unless it wants to... but the end of Venom 2 implies the Sony universe IS its own thing. That Venom travels to the MCU to meet Spider-Man.

So... Morbius is in the MCU? Even though they're talking about the Venom incidents in the trailer? Does "No Way Home" merge Sony into MCU, proper? Complete with the Raimi Green Goblin and so on?

Very confusing stuff.

[frank_one]

The big question is: will there be more Spider-Man movies set in the MCU in the future? Sony is building an universe of its own and all the evidences say Spidey will be a part of it at some point.

[ProphetofGanja]

There's the Oscorp building, too. Does that look like the Raimi one? It's not the Amazing Spider-Man one.

I'm really wondering how they're going to reconcile this all. It was one thing when I assumed they would just keep the Sony universe a corner of the MCU that the MCU itself doesn't really reference unless it wants to... but the end of Venom 2 implies the Sony universe IS its own thing. That Venom travels to the MCU to meet Spider-Man.

So... Morbius is in the MCU? Even though they're talking about the Venom incidents in the trailer? Does "No Way Home" merge Sony into MCU, proper? Complete with the Raimi Green Goblin and so on?

Very confusing stuff.

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I mean, with the revelation that reality is actually a multiverse, not a single universe, with infinite universes that vary by only a single degree, then we can assume that there is a universe where all of these things naturally occurred together. Or that they were brought together by reality-altering shenanigans. But I guess we'll see how Sony/Marvel explains it, if at all.

[oldmanwinters]

I saw the trailer for the first time last night during the World Series on FOX. I don't know if I'd say "it looks good," but somehow I am interested to see it, probably because I never thought "that guy who showed up in Season 2 of the 90s Spider-man cartoon" would ever be able to headline his own theatrical movie.

[Andrew NDB]

I don't really see it being a hit. It'd be like if New Line Cinema put out "Savanti Romero: The Movie" in like 1995. It'd get some mild curiosity but nobody would care, really.

[oldmanwinters]

I don't really see it being a hit. It'd be like if New Line Cinema put out "Savanti Romero: The Movie" in like 1995. It'd get some mild curiosity but nobody would care, really.

You know, I assume Marvel would be perfectly legal to just release their own version of DRACULA, and it would have its own comic book pedigree to boot. Maybe that would be the best venue to introduce Morbius to a wider-audience and then see where that goes. There have been too many Dracula movies to name, but "Marvel's Tomb of Dracula" would surely get people's attention.

I guess Blade still has some name recognition for his own sake.

Yeah, Morbius' trailer couldn't help but play up the "shared universe" gimmick by literally calling himself Venom, and also teasing jailbird Michael Keaton. Have they no shame?

[sdp]

I saw the trailer for the first time last night during the World Series on FOX. I don't know if I'd say "it looks good," but somehow I am interested to see it, probably because I never thought "that guy who showed up in Season 2 of the 90s Spider-man cartoon" would ever be able to headline his own theatrical movie.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOQoWxwWsAAR7QD.jpg
People always complain about how he couldn't bite people but I don't think that would've been shocking at all as a kid, it's what vampires do and you see that in movies all the time. I found morbius shocking on spider-man because of those creepy as hell blood suckers on his hands, man talk about doing something more horrific while trying to censor defeating the purpose.

[oldmanwinters]

I found morbius shocking on spider-man because of those creepy as hell blood suckers on his hands, man talk about doing something more horrific while trying to censor defeating the purpose.

As so often is the case!

[Autbot_Benz]

Moved to April 1st

Jim Vejvoda
@JimVejvoda
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Morbius moves again! This time from Jan. 28 to April 1. I'm sure Omicron is a factor but why undercut Morbius while Spider-Man is still doing gangbusters at the box office?

[Andrew NDB]

Moved to April 1st

Jim Vejvoda
@JimVejvoda
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Morbius moves again! This time from Jan. 28 to April 1. I'm sure Omicron is a factor but why undercut Morbius while Spider-Man is still doing gangbusters at the box office?

How stupid.

[Coola Yagami]

Seriously. No one cares about CoVid when Spider-Man hit, but now all of a sudden they do when Morbius will?

[Sumac]

1st April?
Do they imply this movie is good for fools only?

[ranger_scout]

Moved to April 1st

Jim Vejvoda
@JimVejvoda
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Morbius moves again! This time from Jan. 28 to April 1. I'm sure Omicron is a factor but why undercut Morbius while Spider-Man is still doing gangbusters at the box office?

Apparently, the Omicron variant wasn't a huge reason for the delay. Sony decided to delay it because they want to continue making a profit from Spider-Man: No Way Home.

Deadline hears that one factor motivating the push was Sony’s huge (continuing) success with Spider-Man: No Way Home, which established itself as the highest-grossing film of 2021 upon its December 17 debut. The Tom Holland pic has thus far grossed upwards of $1.37 billion worldwide and now looks to continue to do big business on the screens previously saved for Morbius.

https://deadline.com/2022/01/morbius-sony-pushes-release-date-for-jared-letos-marvel-film-1234903954/

[oldmanwinters]

why undercut Morbius while Spider-Man is still doing gangbusters at the box office?

If anything, Spider-man's success could only help Sony keep the momentum rolling for another "related universe" follow-up.

[Sumac]

Sony gonna Sony.

Only Sega worse than them at any rational and smart decisions.

(I know that this Sony is not the same Sony as the one which controls PlayStation, but still).

[Autbot_Benz]

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[Andrew NDB]

Looks like crap, honestly. But we'll see.

[IMJ]

Looks like crap, honestly. But we'll see.

Really?
I think it looks fun - not a billion dollar franchise or anything, but easily as entertaining as the first Blade or Underworld flicks.

Also? I'm sort of secretly hoping that this is a smash hit so that other studios think "Vampires are cool again!" and maybe we will get another Underworld movie out of it..... :lol:

[ProphetofGanja]

Looks like crap, honestly. But we'll see.

:lol: I think I agree

I'm just curious how they'll pad this origin story into a feature-length film. A reluctant love interest? A begrudgingly respected nemesis? A former ally turned antagonist? Yawn whatever just give me Doctor Strange 2

[Andrew NDB]

Disappoints critics.

https://thedirect.com/article/morbius-reviews-marvel-movie

Sounds like exactly what I expected. Another Venom/Venom 2 90s-style but tame actioner, needing another two or three drafts before filming.

[ZariusTwo]

And they've cut a lot out of the movie too...all Spider-Man references and reducing Keaton's screen time

https://www.cbr.com/morbius-cut-major-spider-man-trailer-scenes/

[oldmanwinters]

and reducing Keaton's screen time


That was probably the #1 reason I wanted to go see this mess.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeesh. This has to be either Marvel seeing the movie and going, "No way do we want this connected at the hip to our stuff!" OR... this might have something to do with the changing/expanded plans and reshoots over on Dr. Strange: Multiverse of Madness. Like, maybe they want the Venom universe to be its own thing shared with Morbius until whatever it is happens in Multiverse of Madness.

[Sumac]

Reshoot the movie, cut the movie...its like no-one has any kind of plan this days.
They just wing and think it'll work somehow.

[frank_one]

These days big studios are driven by insecurity and social media. There's no real plan.

[ZariusTwo]

Matt Smith vents about the script

https://uk.style.yahoo.com/matt-smith-says-confused-morbius-140000240.html

[IMJ]

Spider-Man does not need nor warrant his "own" movie Universe and giving movies to Spider-Man's villains was sort of nonsense to begin with. Routinely turning villains into a protagonist takes away from the villain at some point. It used to be clever - the protagonist villain anti-hero - but now it's just a cliche trope.

[Sumac]

Not only that, but some of them doesn't work as protagonists at all - like what would be the point of movies about Green Goblin or Carnage?

[Andrew NDB]

And now you have all these movies with Venom and Morbius and Kraven where we root for the bad guys... then we're supposed to turn around and want to see them fight Spider-Man, for some reason?

[Zulithe]

I plan on seeing it... don't care how bad it is. I have AMC A-List (can see up to 3 movies in any format a week for a monthly fee), so I'm not technically paying for a ticket anyway. I try to go at least once a week and this is my pick for that week.

If it's worse than Venom 1 or 2, and it looks like it probably will be, at least I'll have more material to write about on the internet :lol:

[Coola Yagami]

And now you have all these movies with Venom and Morbius and Kraven where we root for the bad guys... then we're supposed to turn around and want to see them fight Spider-Man, for some reason?

Not only that but also root for Spider-Man to beat them even though we were just rooting for them in their own movies? If anything, Spider-Man would be the bad guy here.

[Andrew NDB]

The good news will be if these Spider spinoffs fail and fail hard, Sony might be more open to an offer from Disney for all the rights and we can shore up this kind of nonsense.

[oldmanwinters]

More bad reception:
https://comicbook.com/movies/news/morbius-movie-spoiler-free-first-reactions-reviews-post-credits-scenes-jared-leto-sony/?fbclid=IwAR0sNsH3tTDA2_4jjCg-7JMClkq77XWJOH3oxv__s-0q7nVg_4jjHji3eZY

[ZariusTwo]

Post credits for Morbius

Keaton is transported from the MCU to another universe via the rift from No Way Home. He's released from jail on grounds that he did not commit any crimes to the knowledge of the police in this universe. In the second post credit scene, he shows up in his Vulture gear and intercepts Morbius, where he offers him a chance to join a team he's putting together that will confront Spider-Man

[Coola Yagami]

Post credits for Morbius

Keaton is transported from the MCU to another universe via the rift from No Way Home. He's released from jail on grounds that he did not commit any crimes to the knowledge of the police in this universe. In the second post credit scene, he shows up in his Vulture gear and intercepts Morbius, where he offers him a chance to join a team he's putting together that will confront Spider-Man

Ay dios mio. :roll:

[AquaParade]

This sounds awful. Hopefully, if it is awful, Sony will get a well-timed punishment and realize they still need Marvel involved for Spider-Man.

I actually wanted Spider-Man rights to revert back to Sony, after I initially saw Far From Home. Yup, I was ready for it, after that dud. Then Venom and Venom 2 convinced me Sony had still not grown from the ASM 2 days.

[Andrew NDB]

Post credits for Morbius

Keaton is transported from the MCU to another universe via the rift from No Way Home. He's released from jail on grounds that he did not commit any crimes to the knowledge of the police in this universe. In the second post credit scene, he shows up in his Vulture gear and intercepts Morbius, where he offers him a chance to join a team he's putting together that will confront Spider-Man

So...

"Keaton is transported from the MCU to another universe via the rift form No Way Home"... and then "he shows up in his Vulture gear and intercepts Morbius." So he is transported to THIS universe, right? The lonely universe populated only by Venom but maybe-probably-not Andrew Garfield, too?

And I dunno. I get that Keaton's Vulture was always going to be part of the Sinister Six and then they'd go on adventures... but last I checked he wasn't even that mad at Spider-Man? Certainly not mad enough to assemble a team to go and fight him. And to what end? He really wants to kill Peter Parker?

[Coola Yagami]

So...

"Keaton is transported from the MCU to another universe via the rift form No Way Home"... and then "he shows up in his Vulture gear and intercepts Morbius." So he is transported to THIS universe, right? The lonely universe populated only by Venom but maybe-probably-not Andrew Garfield, too?

And I dunno. I get that Keaton's Vulture was always going to be part of the Sinister Six and then they'd go on adventures... but last I checked he wasn't even that mad at Spider-Man? Certainly not mad enough to assemble a team to go and fight him. And to what end? He really wants to kill Peter Parker?

Not only that, Spider-Man was kind of an annoyance to him, his real enemy MCU-wise anyways, was Tony Stark and he's already dead.

[Andrew NDB]

Christ. They should be approaching these weird Sony Spider-Man villain spinoff things like Natural Born Killers. Origin story, show us how horrible they are but maybe in a fun way, and then cast them off so we appreciate them as villains but are rooting for Spider-Man to stomp them out. They don't seem to understand that this is a basic thing that is needed.

[AquaParade]

The villains don’t need their own movies to be built up. Look how excited everyone was to see the classic Spider-Man villains back in No Way Home.

Lean into the Spider-Verse and you can develop a Sinister Six in the meantime there. Spider-Man 2099, Miles Morales, Spider-Gwen, Spider-Man, Venom (audiences already accept it).

[Coola Yagami]

The villains don’t need their own movies to be built up. Look how excited everyone was to see the classic Spider-Man villains back in No Way Home.


Horrible example. Those villains literally had their own movies to build themselves up. None of them were brand new, their back stories continued off their last movies.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm still suspicious that Sony will still bring in the post-No Way Home Ock, Goblin, and Electro at least, for their Sinister Six movie. Even if they've been rehabilitated.

Eugh. I don't know. No Way Home was great but they really kind of f***ed themselves long term, unless they really do have big plans for Strange 2. As in... OsCorp is a HUGE part of Marvel. Norman Osborne is a HUGE player. If he's relegated to just a nuisance from another reality from movies 20 years ago then that's an enormous misstep.

[neatoman]

Why do I get the feeling Kingsley Ltd. or Alchemax will be used as a substitute for Oscorp in the MCU?

[AquaParade]

Horrible example. Those villains literally had their own movies to build themselves up. None of them were brand new, their back stories continued off their last movies.

Looks like you misunderstood?

The point is they don’t need to be the protagonists of their own movies. Simply featuring them in a well made film is enough.

I mean, my example would literally make no sense, if I didn’t understand those villains were featured in previous movies.

[Coola Yagami]

Looks like you misunderstood?

The point is they don’t need to be the protagonists of their own movies. Simply featuring them in a well made film is enough.

I mean, my example would literally make no sense, if I didn’t understand those villains were featured in previous movies.

Ok yeah, that makes more sense.

[IMJ]

Going back to the conversation from page 4, I just feel like everything that is going on is granularization of these I.P.'s back into that old-school-Hollywood-form that people complained about for years.

More Hollywood liberties, less source material, more Hollywood story tropes and story insertions, character deviations, etc. There will be the cliche arguer here that -cue Napolean Dynamite go-to point-"all of these movies just are inspired by the source material, GOD!".

But I think that at some point when we aren't swimming in the pool anymore we will look back somewhere around this period or sometime in the immediate future and realize this is about where it might see the rolling snowball of Hollywood-takes-liberties films. The kinds of movies where Hollywood writers and execs think they "know better" than the decades of I.P.'s they are holding. The kind of movie where we see Iron Man in a clear plastic helmet so that "you can see the actors face!"

[AquaParade]

Going back to the conversation from page 4, I just feel like everything that is going on is granularization of these I.P.'s back into that old-school-Hollywood-form that people complained about for years.

More Hollywood liberties, less source material, more Hollywood story tropes and story insertions, character deviations, etc. There will be the cliche arguer here that -cue Napolean Dynamite go-to point-"all of these movies just are inspired by the source material, GOD!".

But I think that at some point when we aren't swimming in the pool anymore we will look back somewhere around this period or sometime in the immediate future and realize this is about where it might see the rolling snowball of Hollywood-takes-liberties films. The kinds of movies where Hollywood writers and execs think they "know better" than the decades of I.P.'s they are holding. The kind of movie where we see Iron Man in a clear plastic helmet so that "you can see the actors face!"

I’m not seeing that trend. While there are plenty of liberties between comics and their adaptations, I’d say that right now we are in an age where the most faithful comic book adaptions are not only being made, but are setting box office records. The trend is going the opposite way.

Again, nothing is 1:1, but the MCU is, by and large, the most faithful comic adaption we’ve seen put to screen - from the storylines that inspire it to the very “shared universe” nature of the entire tapestry - we’ve never seen comic book adapted this faithfully and we are in the very midst of it.

I don’t see any trend leading us back towards the 80s/90s/00 era of films. Venom, and potentially Morbius, have that stink about them, but it’s not like they are leading the industry with those films. Kevin Feige is, and the man is the biggest fan of the source material we’ve ever had in the producer’s chair. I don’t see his way of doing things ending in the next five years or anything.

[IMJ]

It is the most faithful. But it's drifting. That's how granularization works - drifts a bit at a time while normies and the easily appeased accept and defend the drift as "small acceptable changes". And not all changes are born of malice either. Many are born of involved people thinking their big "adaptation" and "clever insertion", or "seeing a protagonist in a villain" will leave their big mark. Look at the Eternals. The upcoming Ms Marvel. There's more.

[AquaParade]

Yeah, I’m just not seeing an overwhelming trend of things being changed for the sake of change, due to the prodding of Hollywood producers. WB has largely hands-off approach, especially as of late, and let their directors do their own thing.
And the MCU producer adores the source material. By and large, the MCU is very faithful.

If we use Ms Marvel as an example, you’d need to be more specific. What has changed? Because she’s always been a pretty inconsistent character in the comics. They’ve never really known what they want her to be.
Also, that film was like, what, five-six years ago? Seems like the minority.

As for Eternals, I’d say it does differ from the source in strong ways but also brings about crazy **** like deviants and celestials, which no one would dare expect a decade ago. A decade ago, Galactus was a cloud. Now, he’s a giant man-god like the comics.
Furthermore, The Eternals was the closest thing the MCU has had to a flop, so even if it does drift from the source material, I’m not sure why we’d expect it to be more influential than stories that have made much more money and crib storylines and elements straight from the comics for inspiration.

[Andrew NDB]

We literally saw a Celestial 8 years ago. In GotG1.

[AquaParade]

We literally saw a Celestial 8 years ago. In GotG1.

True, but you need more than that to convince me lol.

And most importantly, Eternals doesn’t set the trend, because it performed worse out of all MCU movies in many ways. That’s sort of the part that makes me not worry whether we saw a Celestial 8 years ago.

[Andrew NDB]

Well, the one good thing to come out of Eternals: rolling out the red carpet for Galactus and warming people to the idea of something as abstract and huge as he is.

Just rewatched Eternals with my daughter (who hadn't seen it yet). I remember at the end there, after they kill the celestial and the main chick is in the park and suddenly the sky grows black and it's that Celestial looming over Earth... man, that shoulda been Galactus. Then hard cut to black and credits. That would have been the "holy sh**!" moment it needed.

[Coola Yagami]

I'm kinda confused here. So Galactus made a proper appearance in the MCU?

[Andrew NDB]

I'm kinda confused here. So Galactus made a proper appearance in the MCU?

No, but man... that would have been a perfect one. And what I mean by rolling out the red carpet for Galactus is that you can bet when that the death of the Celestial inside the Earth happened, that made Earth fair game for Galactus to come and consume. So he's coming.

[ZariusTwo]

I just saw the post-credits on Youtube:lol:

[neatoman]

I watched this movie and yeah, it sucks balls. There is a lot of weird **** about the plot and the characters, including but not limited to:

Vampire bats being stated to be way more deadly than they are in real life, to an absurd degree. It's not explained why they don't kill Morbius when he captures them.
The first action scene of the movie being totally contrived in every way possible.
The villain being very inconsistent.
A man bleeding out for several hours being able to make a phone call and be calm until he dies from his wounds like another hour later or something.
Morbius attending the Nobel Prize ceremony for the sole reason of declining the award.
Morbius being able to return to and use his lab despite being suspicious as hell.
When Morbius needs to change labs, he steals one from money counterfeiters instead of just relocating his gear to anywhere he can fit it.
The MCU Vulture ending up in this universe because of the Dr Strange spell.

This is quite possibly the dumbest movie I've seen in a while. There are nuggets of good film making in there but it's still like 98% bad.

As for it as an adaptation... I don't really know (or care) much about Morbius but I know for a fact that not counting Morbius himself or the cameo, there are no characters from the comics to be found in this movie. I know trying to make these non-Spider-Man spin-offs to Spider-Man comes with some need to... Stretch... The source material but surely there must have been more than one character they could have used, right? Morbius himself may not be a very big character and he only got this movie because he's technically has the most solo issues of the characters Sony has the rights to (aside from Venom, Spider-Man himself and characters who can't be as easily divorced from Spider-Man himself) but he could still have fought Jack O'Lantern or some other minor character. From what I understand, Matt Smith's character was meant to be some random C-lister connected to Morbius in the comics but they changed that when they felt they deviated too much from what that character was. It's approach to adaptation is only slightly better than Catwoman.

[AquaParade]

Reviews obviously looking poor. I don’t think people will go lightly, because Jared Leto is a “love ‘em or hate em” kinda guy, and there are no professional film critics under 14.

[neatoman]

Reviews obviously looking poor. I don’t think people will go lightly, because Jared Leto is a “love ‘em or hate em” kinda guy, and there are no professional film critics under 14.

Oh yeah, trust me, this movie sucks. It makes no sense and clearly just exists to stretch the Spider-Man license.

[AquaParade]

Oh yeah, trust me, this movie sucks. It makes no sense and clearly just exists to stretch the Spider-Man license.

You took one for the team. At least it should be another wake-up call for Sony after their heads have probably been inflated the last few months.

[Andrew NDB]

With this and Venom, Sony should've either worked in close concert with Marvel Studios on them, making them organic to the MCU... or they should've gone balls to the wall crazy and R-rated (make the Sony brand of Marvel super edgy in ways that wouldn't be imagineable at Marvel proper). They aren't capable of going a different way and it succeeding... not since Raimi and not since they left him alone and he did Spider-Man 2.

[Coola Yagami]

Venom is actually cool though, and as for villains, he always had Carnage at the very least.

I can't think of a villain for Morbius that flat out isn't Spider-Man, cause I know that they can't use Blade nor can they have Blade lose or be killed.

I just have no interest. Morbius never interested me. It's as if they made a movie about Hammerhead or Tombstone.

[neatoman]

The thing about Morbius technically being the most successful spin-off character, aside from Venom, the Punisher (who they can't use) and characters flat out cribbing the Spider-Man name, is that I always wondered why? There is actually a Morbius book that lasted 32 issues, meaning a sufficient number of people actually read a Morbius book for over two years. In a pure numbers sense I guess it makes sense to make this movie before you make the Black Cat movie.

That said, who actually likes this character? Doesn't he basically just exist because Roy Thomas wanted to **** with the CCA by creating a Vampire character that lacked the defining features of vampires according to them? His gimmick has literally been pointless since... Well, at least a year after he was introduced because that's when Marvel started making Dracula comics.

[Andrew NDB]

"@DiscussingFilm
‘MORBIUS’ is the definition of a studio product designed only to take your money on the promise of a greater “universe” on the horizon and CGI Jared Leto flying around for 2 hours."

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking it would be. Like everything Marvel that Sony has done without Marvel since Spider-Man 2.

Makes you wonder. When Morbius fails, is Kevin Feige face-palming or doing a fist pump?

[AquaParade]

I'm expecting an MCU Spider-Man announcement in the next week or so. This is a good reminder to Sony to do what they need to do, in order to keep Marvel involved. This gives Disney some leverage and allows Sony to change the subject from Morbius to Spider-Man.

Just a guess.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm expecting an MCU Spider-Man announcement in the next week or so. This is a good reminder to Sony to do what they need to do, in order to keep Marvel involved. This gives Disney some leverage and allows Sony to change the subject from Morbius to Spider-Man.

Just a guess.

Yeah, but Morbius needs to fail, and fail hard at the box office. Bad reviews will do a little but won't be enough to move the meter with Spider-Man.

[AquaParade]

Yeah, but Morbius needs to fail, and fail hard at the box office. Bad reviews will do a little but won't be enough to move the meter with Spider-Man.

True. Maybe Leto's whole cult shows up with a friend.

[Andrew NDB]

Best Morbius review:

https://www.imdb.com/review/rw8019875/?fbclid=IwAR1ICm1dxwZ9A5pKLlDWR9C3ymXwK_E5opQoehQM seroGe4XRIqWnRkObHM

[Andrew NDB]

Just saw it.

* Nothing at all stands out in it but it's not nearly as bad as I suspected it would be. It's actually fairly competent. I probably enjoyed it a little more than the first Venom.

* Vampire bats aren't like that.

* Definitely could've benefitted from an R-rating, probably even moreso than the Venom movies. A super-vampire going around a room slashing 8-9 throats is pretty lame to see in PG-13.

* You can definitely see when you're watching a "Reshoot" scene. Leto's body looks way buffer and the coloring is different. I spotted 2 or 3 scenes that were definitely added in (clumsily) to add some "character moments" with a little levity. Tonally they feel as different as the Whedon stuff from the Snyder stuff in JL.

* I was a little confused about the structure. We begin a little bit ahead in time, with a still-human Morbius in the vampire bat cave. There is a device there, he cuts his hand and they fly all around him -- I thought we were seeing the moment he becomes Morbius. Then we cut to him as a boy, then closer to the present. At one point we see his vampire bat collection in the lab. Maybe this is my fault, but I kept waiting for us to arrive at that island and for him to go to the cave.

* Morbius' line in the trailers to the thugs about "I'm just kidding, it's your friend, Dr. Michael Morbius, at your service" is gone, replaced with just some kind of a "Get outta here!"

* On that note, how he acquires his new lab is silly and stupid. He overhears something about a lab at a restaurant... just follows some punks there and scares them out of it?

* You can definitely guess where the original Michael Keaton stuff would have gone. When Moribus goes to jail and is locked up... I bet he met Vulture there and when he escaped, Vulture followed and was probably like, "Thanks, Morbius! I owe ya one. Say, I was thinking about starting up a blah blah." But clearly Marvel made the final decision to keep the Venom/Morbius universe separate probably late into the game.

* The Keaton stuff at the end. I didn't notice this in the reviews here, but Keaton doesn't actually tell Morbius he wants to make a group to fight Spider-Man at all. It's not even hinted. He just says he wants to start a group. Maybe they won't even be fighting Spider-Man? If that's true then absolutely they're gonna round out the 6 with the "Reformed" versions of Goblin and Doc Ock and Electro and all. For sure. Also this final Vulture bit, they only used Keaton's voice. He's clearly not really there.

* Looking at the original 2 Morbius trailers, it looks like there is a whole deleted scene/storyline in a park in the daytime. Cop cars are rushing to it over the grass and Tyrese is there with some kind of big mechanical/cybernetic device on his arm. This isn't in the movie. Could be this was from the original end credits sequence and connected to the Vulture. i.e., in the original movie Vulture escaped with Morbius out of the jail and then at the end of the movie has some kind of altercation in-costume in a park? Dunno. Just guessing.

[neatoman]

So this movie isn't doing too hot at the box office, not that surprising. I realise that my showing may have been around 3 PM on a Wednesday but it was still pretty empty, even for a showing not a lot of people are expected to catch.

Still, this movie allegedly only cost 75 million to make. It would have to make less than 200 million to be considered a bomb.

[Andrew NDB]

Jared Leto made people take him in a wheelchair to go to the bathroom on set:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/morbius-director-talks-letos-method/

[neatoman]

Jared Leto made people take him in a wheelchair to go to the bathroom on set:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/morbius-director-talks-letos-method/

Morbius mainly uses crutches in the movie, not a wheelchair. If he was just soooo dedicated to the role, he should have tried going to the bathroom with the crutches, not a wheelchair.

[Andrew NDB]

Morbius mainly uses crutches in the movie, not a wheelchair. If he was just soooo dedicated to the role, he should have tried going to the bathroom with the crutches, not a wheelchair.

He did. And it was taking an hour to do so every time, so they compromised and had crew wheel him to the bathroom in a wheelchair.

[neatoman]

He did. And it was taking an hour to do so every time, so they compromised and had crew wheel him to the bathroom in a wheelchair.

... Ok... Well, at least it's not mailing dead rats, so that's an improvement... I guess?

[ZariusTwo]

Everyone now loves watching the movie to make fun of it, so it's being re-released

https://www.cinemablend.com/superheroes/its-morbin-time-jared-letos-morbius-is-returning-to-theaters

[Leo656]

What, is it gonna be the "Rocky Horror Picture Show" of comic book movies? :lol:

It's a way to go, I guess. But clearly, that was not the intention.

[superstaff]

What, is it gonna be the "Rocky Horror Picture Show" of comic book movies? :lol:

It's a way to go, I guess. But clearly, that was not the intention.

Yeah, I think it's Sony trying to a) try to recoup more money for the movie, and b) trying to spin the movie into a meme ala The Room or something. I haven't watched Morbius, though it strikes me as being too bland to really be a 'So Bad It's Good' type of flick.

[oldmanwinters]

What, is it gonna be the "Rocky Horror Picture Show" of comic book movies? :lol:

It's a way to go, I guess. But clearly, that was not the intention.

I guess you could say it "rose from the dead."

[IMJ]

What, is it gonna be the "Rocky Horror Picture Show" of comic book movies? :lol:

It's a way to go, I guess. But clearly, that was not the intention.

"The Room."

[Sumac]

What the morb is morbin' out there, fellow Morbs?