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Papenbrook
11-21-2017, 10:40 PM
What are your thoughts on this? (https://mobile.nytimes.com/redirect?to-mobile=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2017%2F11%2 F21%2Ftechnology%2Ffcc-net-neutrality.html%3Freferer%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.googl e.com%2Fsearch%3Foq%3DNEt%2B%26aqs%3Dmobile-gws-lite.0.0l5%26q%3Dnet%2Bneutrality)

ProphetofGanja
11-21-2017, 10:45 PM
Pretty f#cking bad

plastroncafe
11-21-2017, 11:12 PM
Yeah, this is bad. Very very bad.

Utrommaniac
11-21-2017, 11:56 PM
So here's my question...do they want violent revolution against them or will they be caught completely off-guard when/if that happens?

What will it take for Net Neutrality to be restored - because eventually, it will have to be. Or so I hope.

plastroncafe
11-22-2017, 09:31 AM
<Archer> Do you want a violent peasant uprising? Because this is how you get a violent peasant uprising.</Archer>

Utrommaniac
11-22-2017, 09:34 AM
The people are the ants!

Utrommaniac
11-22-2017, 04:25 PM
So...here's a question...

How on earth are they going to get this done when they pass it? How long will it take to organize? Will it even work like they think it will?


In regards to the actual bill that's being voted on...this is it. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrymagid/2017/08/04/the-well-meaning-stop-enabling-sex-traffickers-act-could-be-a-trojan-horse/#c4527c66cf54)
Yes it is about "preventing" sex trafficking. Yes, it's really, really dumb.

Sumac
11-22-2017, 04:58 PM
So...here's a question...

How on earth are they going to get this done when they pass it? How long will it take to organize? Will it even work like they think it will?


In regards to the actual bill that's being voted on...this is it. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrymagid/2017/08/04/the-well-meaning-stop-enabling-sex-traffickers-act-could-be-a-trojan-horse/#c4527c66cf54)
Yes it is about "preventing" sex trafficking. Yes, it's really, really dumb.
We already had such laws in Russia, which allow to close any site without any kind of legal procedure beforehand.
Naturally it used primarily against political opponents of the regime.

plastroncafe
11-22-2017, 05:12 PM
So...here's a question...

How on earth are they going to get this done when they pass it? How long will it take to organize? Will it even work like they think it will?


In regards to the actual bill that's being voted on...this is it. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrymagid/2017/08/04/the-well-meaning-stop-enabling-sex-traffickers-act-could-be-a-trojan-horse/#c4527c66cf54)
Yes it is about "preventing" sex trafficking. Yes, it's really, really dumb.

Preventing us to know about the sex trafficking they're doing, more like it.

Katie
11-23-2017, 09:28 AM
We already had such laws in Russia, which allow to close any site without any kind of legal procedure beforehand.
Naturally it used primarily against political opponents of the regime.

I mean, let’s be honest. I’m fairly certain that this is at least part of the reason they’re pursuing this...and blanket repealing of previous presidents’ executive orders....and just tell the population its to control some scary thing.

*shrug*

Someone will bring a lawsuit about this fairly quickly and it’ll be a supreme court issue.

shredder orokusaki
11-25-2017, 07:58 AM
There will be a revoluiton against the US goverment or any other goverment the minute that something llike pass. Millions of people will be on the streets demadning it to be deleted. Goverment will be down in at least days if not hours after this pass if it pass. It like suicade. It like they want the whole americans against their goverment.

Autbot_Benz
11-25-2017, 01:10 PM
There will be a revoluiton against the US goverment or any other goverment the minute that something llike pass. Millions of people will be on the streets demadning it to be deleted. Goverment will be down in at least days if not hours after this pass if it pass. It like suicade. It like they want the whole americans against their goverment.

holy **** you actually posted something not in shredder speak

https://i.imgur.com/MqvjBxC.jpg

Andrew NDB
11-25-2017, 01:35 PM
There will be a revoluiton against the US goverment or any other goverment the minute that something llike pass. Millions of people will be on the streets demadning it to be deleted. Goverment will be down in at least days if not hours after this pass if it pass. It like suicade. It like they want the whole americans against their goverment.

No there won't. Maybe a pitter patter of fading protest. Everyone is too chickensh*t nowadays.

Shiro Kame
11-28-2017, 01:40 PM
People who benefit from it are now trying to censor protests. It's so bad that Tumblr will delete tags and posts related to net neutrality.

Utrommaniac
11-28-2017, 04:01 PM
I mean, let’s be honest. I’m fairly certain that this is at least part of the reason they’re pursuing this...and blanket repealing of previous presidents’ executive orders....and just tell the population its to control some scary thing.

*shrug*

Someone will bring a lawsuit about this fairly quickly and it’ll be a supreme court issue.

That actually is a pretty good point, but the question is if that will even work. The question become actually getting to that point.

EDIT
Actually (https://boingboing.net/2017/11/26/rule-of-law-not-shills.html) it (https://www.techspot.com/news/72039-fcc-plans-end-net-neutrality-could-killed-court.html) could... (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/22/opinion/courts-net-neutrality-fcc.html)

Shiro Kame
11-30-2017, 08:50 PM
That actually is a pretty good point, but the question is if that will even work. The question become actually getting to that point.

EDIT
Actually (https://boingboing.net/2017/11/26/rule-of-law-not-shills.html) it (https://www.techspot.com/news/72039-fcc-plans-end-net-neutrality-could-killed-court.html) could... (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/22/opinion/courts-net-neutrality-fcc.html)

What do you mean?

Utrommaniac
11-30-2017, 09:12 PM
Basically, they still have to go through legal courts to actually get the repeal passed. And when they do that, Pai has to bring recent evidence that it's necessary, for which he has very little.

I provided three articles to describe that exactly.

Andrew NDB
12-04-2017, 11:54 AM
https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/04/senators-ask-fcc-delay-net-neutrality-vote/

Vote delayed (maybe?) because of possibly FAKE comments from FAKE accounts.

Autbot_Benz
12-14-2017, 12:21 PM
https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/14/16776154/fcc-net-neutrality-vote-results-rules-repealed?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Net Nutrality is dead. It goes to court next Lets hope the FCC Gets sued by ACLU and other places

Utrommaniac
12-14-2017, 12:31 PM
It has to go to court first.

Where it will inevitably be struck down because support of Net Neutrality is bipartisan. The vote may have gone like they wanted, but they have a very long way to go before they can try anything.

plastroncafe
12-14-2017, 12:35 PM
The list of Human Crapsacks continues to grow.

Bry
12-14-2017, 12:52 PM
Ajit Pai is human garbage and I hope he's hated for the rest of his days.

dl316bh
12-14-2017, 01:54 PM
Ajit Pai is human garbage and I hope he's hated for the rest of his days.
He basically spent yesterday putting out videos mocking anyone who has ever worried about this issue.

I haven't wanted to punch someone in the face until they lost blood and teeth this much since Glenn Beck was a regular, irritating presence.

Autbot_Benz
12-14-2017, 02:35 PM
The Anon Journal‏ @TheAnonJournal

BREAKING NEWS: The following states will join New York in suing the FCC to defend #NetNeutrality protections:

-California
-Oregon
-Vermont
-Washington
-Delaware
-Hawaii
-Iowa
-Illinois
-Massachusetts
-Kentucky
-Maine
-Maryland
-North Carolina
-Mississippi
-Pennsylvania
-Virginia

https://twitter.com/TheAnonJournal/status/941391171649265664

dl316bh
12-14-2017, 02:58 PM
The Anon Journal‏ @TheAnonJournal

BREAKING NEWS: The following states will join New York in suing the FCC to defend #NetNeutrality protections:

-California
-Oregon
-Vermont
-Washington
-Delaware
-Hawaii
-Iowa
-Illinois
-Massachusetts
-Kentucky
-Maine
-Maryland
-North Carolina
-Mississippi
-Pennsylvania
-Virginia

https://twitter.com/TheAnonJournal/status/941391171649265664
Beat me to it. I came in to throw up the NY Attourney Generals statement. Yup. The other shoe just dropped, a bit quicker than I even expected it to, and apparently with more states involved than I even expected.

http://news.groopspeak.com/ny-attorney-general-just-put-a-stop-to-trumps-fcc-plan-to-split-up-the-internet/

Coola Yagami
12-14-2017, 04:26 PM
Anon's also started cyber attacking the FFC and been at it all day. Here's hoping the ones behind this can never hop online ever again.

Coola Yagami
12-14-2017, 10:57 PM
Apparently Atlantic Broadband is down in all of PA. Lovely timing...

Candy Kappa
12-15-2017, 01:34 PM
Ajit Pai is human garbage and I hope he's hated for the rest of his days.

I'm sure he'll be remembered as the internet's Shkreli.

Spooky stuff with the identity fraud by impersonating dead and living people done by FCC

plastroncafe
12-15-2017, 01:40 PM
Yeah, I happened to catch that Sean Astin's mom was added three times a year after she died.

Bry
12-15-2017, 03:34 PM
I'm sure he'll be remembered as the internet's Shkreli.

Spooky stuff with the identity fraud by impersonating dead and living people done by FCC

Pure scumbag behaviour, and just staggering contempt for the people in every conceivable way. Not that it's at all surprising from the band of ghouls running government right now. :tgrumble:

It seems like everyone who can fight this is doing everything they can to at least made the process as painful as humanly possible for the FCC. Not tons of hope left, but fingers crossed...

Metalwolf
12-16-2017, 12:28 PM
Pure scumbag behaviour, and just staggering contempt for the people in every conceivable way. Not that it's at all surprising from the band of ghouls running government right now. :tgrumble:

It seems like everyone who can fight this is doing everything they can to at least made the process as painful as humanly possible for the FCC. Not tons of hope left, but fingers crossed...Indeed. This is just nuts. This is almost the nascent beginnings of what appears to be a form of authoritarianism, and I'm glad there are states and others getting up to fight this crap before it comes to roost.

I wonder if the FCC is getting too big for it's britches, because it's weird seeing this kind of behavior from something that is supposed to be properly constrained.

dl316bh
12-16-2017, 02:39 PM
http://uproxx.com/news/senate-democrats-cc-net-neutrality-fight/

Some Republicans weren't happy with the FCC's decision either, so this could end up productive.

The Deadman
02-23-2018, 11:36 AM
Net Neutrality To Be Repealed On April 23
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2018/02/22/net-neutrality-repealed-on-april-23.aspx

Utrommaniac
02-23-2018, 11:53 AM
Meanwhile, 23 State Attorney Generals are filing lawsuits against the FCC (https://gizmodo.com/23-state-attorneys-general-sue-the-fcc-to-preserve-net-1823243764), with plenty more room for lawsuits to be filed with them (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2018/02/22/the-fccs-net-neutrality-rules-will-die-on-april-23-heres-what-happens-now/?utm_term=.c31ac597d5d0)...and Ajit Pai is under investigation BY HIS OWN PEOPLE. (https://gizmodo.com/ajit-pai-is-reportedly-being-investigated-by-the-fccs-i-1823029745)

Mississippi is one of the states joining the law suits. And if even Mississippi, the reddest state that ever did red and thus probably wouldn't be in on it, is joining the suits, then I have some faith that the repeal is doomed.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
02-23-2018, 12:04 PM
Never underestimate stupidity.

I predict the repeal DOES in fact go through.

Sage Ninja
02-27-2018, 02:39 PM
welp! I think all those people making bank on their youtube channels will have to find other additional income. Some even made careers out of it. Not any more I guess...

Andrew NDB
04-20-2018, 06:51 PM
What's the update on this, anyway? Did it actually happen?

oldmanwinters
04-20-2018, 06:53 PM
What's the update on this, anyway? Did it actually happen?

Internet still works as well as it did for me back in 2015.

Andrew NDB
05-17-2018, 01:27 PM
Seems like everything is OK? Net neutrality is saved?

https://gizmodo.com/senate-votes-to-save-net-neutrality-proving-shame-stil-1826054197