Marvel or DC? [Archive] - The Technodrome Forums

sdp

11-28-2017, 02:53 PM

FredWolfLeonardo

11-28-2017, 02:53 PM

Too vague.

Characters in general? TV shows? Comics? Current cinematic universes?

A bit of everything, but mostly characters.

ProphetofGanja

11-28-2017, 02:58 PM

Right now, I go to the movies for Marvel and my LCS for DC

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

11-28-2017, 02:59 PM

A bit of everything, but mostly characters.

Going with characters, I gotta say DC. Didn't know any Marvel characters growing up, except X-Men.

FredWolfLeonardo

11-28-2017, 03:02 PM

I like both alot, but DC has the Man of Steel, and he is my favourite hero of all time so its no contest :roll:

Autbot_Benz

11-28-2017, 03:05 PM

https://i.imgur.com/QIpuGwC.gif

Storm Eagle

11-28-2017, 03:09 PM

I prefer DC heroes but Marvel is great too. I don't understand the notion of "X Sucks because X is better" They're both fun and have their hits and misses. You can have a preference of heroes, mine is DC but can people actually say that the entire other company sucks? If so, they're missing out.

That being said, why exactly do you prefer DC?

https://i.imgur.com/QIpuGwC.gif

Exactly.

I've never been an avid comic book reader, but I've enjoyed the movies and shows all the same. I tend not to notice any significant differences to lean more towards one than I do the other.

Spike Spiegel

11-28-2017, 03:14 PM

I like both...the quality of some of those classic storylines in their original comic form transcends all of that corporate rivalry BS.

PApagreg

11-28-2017, 03:15 PM

I gotta give the edge to Marvel, there are a lot more characters I like from them.

Splinter the boss

11-28-2017, 03:17 PM

I like both, they're both good. But I only watch D.C. live action shows, I think they're better that way. Besides that I watch both their movies, animated tv shows, and read both their comics.

newfan

11-28-2017, 03:24 PM

Finding myself out of depth again for not being a comic reader so I'll stay off the poll.

I like both, so far as outside the comics go, yes FredWolf, DC has Superman, I liked some of the Batman movies and I like the Arrow series (well less now as it's dying a bit but still)....I like some of Marvels characters and currently so far as movies go, I like theirs more.

ZariusTwo

11-28-2017, 03:30 PM

DC.

Miss the mark with the movies, but the tv shows are way better than any Marvel tv show.

Except Arrow. Arrow can get f*cked

ABrown

11-28-2017, 03:31 PM

As far as the characters go, I'm DC all the way. Who's putting out a better current live action movie universe, Marvel, no question about it.

sdp

11-28-2017, 03:35 PM

That being said, why exactly do you prefer DC?

.

I don't know, I like their heroes more, the world doesn't seem as covoluted as Marvel and I prefer the origins of their heroes and villains as well. Their stories also seem more "grounded" even when dealing with magic or sci-fi than Marvel.

It could also be that since I was a kid DC was the "A" League and Marvel the "B" League and while tables have turned I still view the DC heroes with more prestige than Marvel's. But I doubt it, I usually root for the underdog and I've always preferred DC.

Autbot_Benz

11-28-2017, 03:38 PM

Except Arrow. Arrow can get f*cked

This X10000000000000000 #notmygreenarrow

Redeemer

11-28-2017, 03:40 PM

I prefer DC heroes but Marvel is great too. I don't understand the notion of "X Sucks because X is better" They're both fun and have their hits and misses. You can have a preference of heroes, mine is DC but can people actually say that the entire other company sucks? If so, they're missing out.

I couldn't agree more very well put.

I prefer DC characters, but I love a lot of the marvel heroes as well specifically spider-man and x-men. But my love of Batman, Batman Beyond, Teen Titans surpass what ever marvel has.

Also I feel like being exposed to DC cartoons in childhood, being my first exposure primed me to like DC. Especially sense some of the characters for both companies are just ripoffs of one another *cough* Iron-man

plastroncafe

11-28-2017, 03:45 PM

Autbot_Benz

11-28-2017, 03:52 PM

Marvel.

There are exceptions. For instance I love DC's Animated Universe, and I've recently fallen in with the Legends of Tomorrow. And then there's the occasional DC book, like the reboot of Blue Beetle, or Gotham Central.

But barring those, I prefer Marvel.

glad your into Legends Of Tomorrow its DC's Guardians of the Galaxy with Time Travel. Rory/Heatwave is the best reason to watch it.

Splinter the boss

11-28-2017, 03:58 PM

Rory/Heatwave is the best reason to watch it.
I couldn't agree more. There's something about him like an "it's good to be bad" vibe.

plastroncafe

11-28-2017, 03:58 PM

glad your into Legends Of Tomorrow its DC's Guardians of the Galaxy with Time Travel. Rory/Heatwave is the best reason to watch it.

So utterly ridiculous, and I love it.
And yeah, Mick is hands down my favorite part.

Though, it used to be him and Snart.
I'll forever be sad that at no point was Gideon replaced with an AI Snart.

CyberCubed

11-28-2017, 04:15 PM

Batman is God. I didn't get into the other DC heroes till Justice League cartoon and even then they feel like secondary characters to Batman and Superman.

I prefer all the older DC films, like the Christopher Reeve Superman, Tim Burton Batman films, and the Nolan Batman trilogy.

DC cartoons are mostly great. Batman: TAS, Superman: TAS, Batman Beyond, Justice League/Unlimited, 2003 Teen Titans, Young Justice, Brave and the Bold are all fantastic cartoon series that I rewatch regularly every few years almost on the same level that I rewatch TMNT cartoons.

I always said that if the TMNT franchise was never created, if PL and Kevin Eastman never met or came up with the concept...I'd probably be some huge Batman fan now instead posting all over DC and Batman forums. But since TMNT became my #1 franchise everything else had to take a backseat. There was nothing else in the late 80's or early 90's when I was growing up that would have taken place of TMNT except for Batman.

Wesley

11-28-2017, 04:32 PM

I’m not really a fan of DC or Marvel, though my favourite superheroes are Batman and Spiderman. Don’t care much for the other characters, tbh.

Shark_Blade

11-28-2017, 05:26 PM

FredWolfLeonardo

11-28-2017, 06:00 PM

If Batman is god to you, then why did he get thrown away like a piece of trash in Justice League after Superman asked him, "Do you bleed?"? :tlol::lol:

I'll admit, I haven't seen Justice League yet but I saw a clip of that scene and it was brilliant :lol: Perfect payback and it was awesome seeing Supes be an unstoppable force who is not being thrown around anymore.

I'm not as familiar with Marvel as I am with DC, but my favourite character from that franchise is Venom. I am generally not a fan of spiderman villains, but I think Venom is awesome in terms of design, abilities and backstory.

Redeemer

11-28-2017, 08:25 PM

DC.

Wonder Woman beats them all. And they have Harley Quinn, Joker, The Flash (tv & movie), Supergirl (tv), Aquaman, Superman, Batman (the entire eras), Damian Wayne Robin etc.

Marvel is okay too but I always lean on DC more.

If Batman is god to you, then why did he get thrown away like a piece of trash in Justice League after Superman asked him, "Do you bleed?"? :tlol::lol:

Well......... Batman did win the fight and stop Superman without throwing a single punch :lol: so yeah he is the closet thing I guess :lol:

side note..... Utterly shocked MsMarvelDuckie voted Marvel haha jk

Allio

11-28-2017, 08:36 PM

better comics/animation: DC
Better liveaction: Marvel

Granted I haven't caught up on either's live action tv shows

Sumac

11-28-2017, 08:51 PM

I almost haven't read comic books from either company and mostly familiar with them through the movies and TV series.

DC, in general, comes more as a modern take on the Pantheons of ancient world and Marvel comes like something more relatable and fun.
Dunno, what to choose. Guess, neither.

GoldMutant

11-28-2017, 08:59 PM

The Incredible Hulk and especially Spider-Man are what made me a comic book fan. Barring nostalgic attachment, I seem to prefer more Marvel characters to DC; whether due to greater familiarity or not I cannot answer. In that regard, Marvel wins.

Animation and movie-wise, DC is the winner.

Although I like both for separate reasons, Marvel enhanced my love for imagination and interest in superheroes. Therefore, I give it my vote.

MsMarvelDuckie

11-28-2017, 09:06 PM

Well......... Batman did win the fight and stop Superman without throwing a single punch :lol: so yeah he is the closet thing I guess :lol:

side note..... Utterly shocked MsMarvelDuckie voted Marvel haha jk

Shocking, I know, right?

As the username suggests, Marvel all the way. Don't get me wrong, I love Batman' s rogues gallery, and the Burton Batman movies and Donner's Superman movies are some of my favorite superhero movies of all time. BUUUT..... My first love and the one who got me into comics in the first place is Spidey. He holds a very special place in my heart, both in cartoons and comics. The X-Men come a close second for me- along with Ms. Marvel(my namesake after all), Daredevil, Deadpool, and the Fantastic Four.

I've always felt that the Marvel characters were more grounded and well-rounded in general, with more interesting backgrounds and more realistic personalities and flaws. I like that they are so human, and most have real motivations and desires that make sense. DC always seem so much larger than life, ommortal (or nearly so) invulnerable, and able to do anything. I never got into that.

FredWolfLeonardo

11-28-2017, 09:12 PM

I like that they are so human, and most have real motivations and desires that make sense. DC always seem so much larger than life, ommortal (or nearly so) invulnerable, and able to do anything. I never got into that.

Funnily enough, I prefer the exact opposite, DC characters being so grand, larger than life, legendary and all.

Although there are exceptions to the rule, and I certainly prefer tmnt being more relatable like Marvel characters (although I wouldn't mind seeing them be done differently in a way more like many DC characters)

MsMarvelDuckie

11-28-2017, 09:22 PM

PApagreg

11-28-2017, 09:43 PM

But doesn't it water down the threat or stakes when they are so powerful all the time? Superman almost can't be killed unless- kryptonite. Batman had so many gadgets and tricks he might as well be James Bond/Jason Bourne/#47 in a cowl. With Trump's money. I always liked Spidey for using his wits and anything around him to come out on top without the rabbit-out-of-the-hat of being super rich. Green Lantern is a whole army. And Wondy is thousands of years old with not a wrinkle on her. I want her anti-aging cream secret!

1. Superman gets his ass handed to him numerous of times by people stronger than him.

2.I do somewhat agree with Batman but the same can be said for Ironman

3. GLs fight other people and other Lanterns hell they do tend to have a death toll

4. The same can be said for Thor

Powder

11-28-2017, 09:45 PM

I was pretty into Marvel stuff from the early 90's to early 2000's. Cartoons, comics, toys, games, movies, all that stuff. X-Men & Spiderman were my favorites. Lost interest over time, though. I still check out & enjoy some of their flicks on occasion, but overall, superhero/superhuman media isn't my cup of tea.

I liked Batman as a kid, namely the animated series & first two live-action films from Burton & Nolan, but I've never been a DC fan outside of that. Well, I really liked Suicide Squad, but I'm aware it's a grand departure from the norm.

Andrew NDB

11-28-2017, 10:19 PM

Definitely not black and white. Whose cinematic universe is better? Marvel's, without a doubt. But getting back to the bigger picture... I don't know that I'd be willing to trade,say, the Nolan Batman trilogy for anything so far in the MCEU. Maybe for all of the Netflix shows.

If Batman is god to you, then why did he get thrown away like a piece of trash in Justice League after Superman asked him, "Do you bleed?"? :tlol::lol:

God, that was such an awkward line. Why, Whedon? I get that it's calling back to BvS (and number one, why do that?) but... it's dumb. It's not funny, it's not clever, it's not anything. I mean, is it a joke? Superman doesn't seem to be in any mindset to be joking at that point. And why wouldn't he think a normal human would bleed?

MsMarvelDuckie

11-28-2017, 10:23 PM

1. Superman gets his ass handed to him numerous of times by people stronger than him.

2.I do somewhat agree with Batman but the same can be said for Ironman

3. GLs fight other people and other Lanterns hell they do tend to have a death toll

4. The same can be said for Thor

I'll give you Thor, to a point. But he's a full blown god. Literally. And most of the villains who can clean Superman's clock are also from Krypton themselves. I include Zod, Bizzaro, and Doomsday among these. Iron-Man I disagree with. Yes, he is rich and incredibly smart, but he is strictly an engineer and inventor, and not a martial-artist/forensic expert/psychologymajor/biochemist/whatever. He hardly is in the same league overall with Bruce in terms of being able to do ANYTHING just by virtue of his VAST array of knowledge an skills. Stark's skill set is much more specific and limited. Moon Knight is a much closer analog to Batman.

The Lantern Corps keep coming back, every time one dies someone else gets the ring. So there are always more waiting in the wings. In other words, an army.

Andrew NDB

11-28-2017, 10:26 PM

I'll give you Thor, to a point. But he's a full blown god. Literally.

No, not literally. Not in the MCEU, anyway. Thor movie #1 made it a point to demystify all of the "Gods" into "aliens with fancy technology" right off of the bat.

Iron-Man I disagree with. Yes, he is rich and incredibly smart, but he is strictly an engineer and inventor, and not a martial-artist/forensic expert/psychologymajor/biochemist/whatever. He hardly is in the same league overall with Bruce in terms of being able to do ANYTHING just by virtue of his VAST array of knowledge an skills. Stark's skill set is much more specific and limited. Moon Knight is a much closer analog to Batman.

Of course. Everything Tony Stark has, Bruce Wayne has more of, and can do better.

PApagreg

11-28-2017, 10:27 PM

I'll give you Thor, to a point. But he's a full blown god. Literally. And most of the villains who can clean Superman's clock are also from Krypton themselves. I include Zod, Bizzaro, and Doomsday among these. Iron-Man I disagree with. Yes, he is rich and incredibly smart, but he is strictly an engineer and inventor, and not a martial-artist/forensic expert/psychologymajor/biochemist/whatever. He hardly is in the same league overall with Bruce in terms of being able to do ANYTHING just by virtue of his VAST array of knowledge an skills. Stark's skill set is much more specific and limited. Moon Knight is a much closer analog to Batman.

Okay I'll give you Ironman however Superman is also vunerable to magic and there are other people who cleaned his clock like Despero, Shaggy Man, Fernus, Amazo, and Parralax.

Of course. Everything Tony Stark has, Bruce Wayne has more of, and can do better.

Not really in terms of Engineering and inventing Stark has Wayne beat

MsMarvelDuckie

11-28-2017, 10:40 PM

No, not literally. Not in the MCEU, anyway. Thor movie #1 made it a point to demystify all of the "Gods" into "aliens with fancy technology" right off of the bat.

Of course. Everything Tony Stark has, Bruce Wayne has more of, and can do better.

That is only true of the cinematic universe Thor. In the comics, all the ancient pantheons of gods exist as actual beings. That includes Aries, Hercules, Set, Aphrodite, and many others. They were all part of the creator races that existed after the universe was born (presumably by Infinity or the Celestials.)

Okay I'll give you Ironman however Superman is also vunerable to magic and there are other people who cleaned his clock like Despero, Shaggy Man, Fernus, Amazo, and Parralax.

Not really in terms of Engineering and inventing Stark has Wayne beat

I have never even heard of any of those. Most of the ones I'm familiar with are in either the movies, cartoons, (guys like Luthor, Brainiac- also a Batman villain), or a few major ones like Lobo and Apokalips.

Andrew NDB

11-29-2017, 12:13 AM

Not really in terms of Engineering and inventing Stark has Wayne beat

Nonsense. Wayne built Brother Eye and like 2 or 3 space stations, Bat Wings, a million Batmobiles and a million different armored suits to suit different battles. If he wanted to build an Iron Man suit, he would.

Autbot_Benz

11-29-2017, 12:17 AM

DC.Except Arrow. Arrow can get f*cked

ya Arrow can go get f*cked now that they married Oliver and Felicity and let the shippers win

newfan

11-29-2017, 12:21 AM

Well, preference and 'who's the best/strongest' are different.
A comic fan I know of who favours the Hulk likes him best because he said he has no weakness, forgetting anger I mean so far as being killed goes. (I know they killed him off in a movie years ago but outside of that) Is that right (comic people?)

Andrew NDB

11-29-2017, 12:29 AM

ya Arrow can go get f*cked now that they married Oliver and Felicity and let the shippers win

They did? That's great. They have great chemistry on the show (just began season 4 a little bit ago).

ZariusTwo

11-29-2017, 09:17 AM

ya Arrow can go get f*cked now that they married Oliver and Felicity and let the shippers win

FFS, they went through with it?

PApagreg

11-29-2017, 11:25 AM

Nonsense. Wayne built Brother Eye and like 2 or 3 space stations, Bat Wings, a million Batmobiles and a million different armored suits to suit different battles. If he wanted to build an Iron Man suit, he would.

Tony has made A.I and space stations before so Batmoblies and Bat wings are practically child's play for him. Also while I'm sure Batman can make an Iron Man suit I doubt it could compare to Tony's best

Autbot_Benz

11-29-2017, 12:01 PM

FFS, they went through with it?

yes they did they brought diggle in to marry Barry and Iris and at the end Felicity finally said she would marry Oliver and they got married at the same time

AT-Man

11-29-2017, 12:36 PM

I'll just give my vote to Marvel, because holy s*it that Infinity War teaser!!!!

RaphaelinSTL

11-29-2017, 12:45 PM

Movie wise it's hard to say as I wouldn't give up those first two Nolan Batman films for anything Marvel has put out ... but they have been FAR more consistent in their output.

Growing up I was just watched more DC related stuff and read more DC comics, but I did appreciate all the Marvel characters but I never really was a huge fan of anything outside of Spider-Man, X-Men, Hulk and some Captain America.

ZariusTwo

11-29-2017, 01:10 PM

yes they did they brought diggle in to marry Barry and Iris and at the end Felicity finally said she would marry Oliver and they got married at the same time

Just read the reddit "official meltdown thread", I'm glad I'm not as invested as they are:lol:

Oh, this ought to make your day

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/flash-arrow-andrew-kreisberg-1202623603/

Autbot_Benz

11-29-2017, 01:13 PM

Just read the reddit "official meltdown thread", I'm glad I'm not as invested as they are:lol:

Oh, this ought to make your day

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/flash-arrow-andrew-kreisberg-1202623603/

I gave up on Arrow after Season 4 I knew not to turn back. I tried to warn people but they didn't listen

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

11-29-2017, 01:20 PM

Damn, guys, let it go. The glue factory would like you to stop beating the dead horses!

This is why Cure keeps making fun of you two. :tlol:

CyberCubed

11-29-2017, 02:26 PM

I personally never cared about any Marvel heroes aside from Spiderman/X-men before all these movies came out.

I mean as a kid in the 90's I was aware characters like Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, Thor, etc. all existed...but I never cared about them. These Marvel movies really did make me interested in characters I would have otherwise never thought much about. Say what you will about Marvel's movies, but they really did make all these characters mainstream.

When I was a kid the main heroes I knew about was Batman, Superman, Spiderman and X-men, and to a lesser extent Wonder Woman. I barely even knew who Flash or Green Lantern were. Then again all 80's/90's kids like myself were obsessed with TMNT at the time, so there was little reason to care for much else.

PApagreg

11-29-2017, 03:02 PM

plastroncafe

11-29-2017, 03:34 PM

This is going to sound weird but what really edges out Marvel for me is the Runaways, I have literally never been attached to a set of characters than I have been attached to these kids

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQd0niraCpeT5zlHMf3uK9slZfiAWwNl Ht_-_Z-U3PQerxS-S0n2Q

That was a book I loved, until it ran into main Marvel Continuity.
(Molly and the Punisher broke my suspension of disbelief for reasons I can't really articulate.)

Have you seen the new show?
And if so, do you feel it did the characters justice?

PApagreg

11-29-2017, 03:53 PM

That was a book I loved, until it ran into main Marvel Continuity.
(Molly and the Punisher broke my suspension of disbelief for reasons I can't really articulate.)

Have you seen the new show?
And if so, do you feel it did the characters justice?

Really because I love that panel
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/c/c8/Runaways_Vol_2_26_page_13_Frank_Castle_%26_Molly_H ayes_%28Earth-616%29.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080612143126

I haven't seen the show yet but I heard it was good

plastroncafe

11-29-2017, 04:17 PM

Really because I love that panel
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/c/c8/Runaways_Vol_2_26_page_13_Frank_Castle_%26_Molly_H ayes_%28Earth-616%29.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080612143126

I haven't seen the show yet but I heard it was good

I neither get, nor can explain, why that sat with me so poorly.
Normally I love the parts of the Marvel Universe that make fun of the Marvel Universe.

Marvel is at its best when it's
- Slice of Life
- Outright parody
- Gratuitous

And yet, I just couldn't get into Runaways.
Nextwave: Agents of H.A.T.E. on the other hand...