View Full Version : Would you want a remaster of the '87 show?
Spike Spiegel
12-07-2017, 09:48 PM
With Batman: TAS coming out on Blu-ray in 2018, I started thinking about other 80s and 90s shows potentially getting the HD treatment.
I think the first season in particular could look great in HD, given its exceptional animation quality...maybe as part of some kind kind of anniversary TMNT box set containing the best of the franchise, which, in a perfect world, would also have a remastered director's cut of the 1990 film.
What do you think? Should the show get an HD release or are the DVDs enough?
FredWolfLeonardo
12-07-2017, 09:57 PM
Definetly!
I would love a Blu-Ray with all 193 episodes, maybe not so much high quality since the show wasn't made in HD, but a Blu-Ray edition could sure fit the entire series in a very few number of discs, and fit in additional content such as turtle tips, interviews, the FW crossovers etc.
It would be a dream come true for me.
CyberCubed
12-07-2017, 10:17 PM
I'm no expert on these things, but would old 2D 80's animation even look any different in HD?
Powder
12-07-2017, 10:29 PM
I don't see how they could make it look better but if they did I'd double dip.
FredWolfLeonardo
12-07-2017, 10:39 PM
For me, the selling point would not be the visual quality of the episodes, I would be satisfied with episodes in 480p upscaled to HD.
Rather, it would be the fact that Blu-Ray discs are capable of fitting alot more than DVDs.
I wonder how many standard definition episodes of the OT could fit into a 25 GB single layered Blu-Ray disc.
Prowler
12-08-2017, 02:26 AM
Eh I wouldn't say no, but I can do fine without a remaster. It's not really the art and animation that's the problem with the FW series, even considering all the animation errors it's plagued with. Even if you polished it into HD, it would still be the same dated 80s episodic action comedy cartoon
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
12-08-2017, 02:40 AM
If remastered Batman comes in 2018, we probably must wait to at least 2019 or 2020.
neatoman
12-08-2017, 04:21 AM
I really don't see the point of remastering this show. It's just going to make the choppy animation and the errors stand out more. Maybe if they cherry picked the like 20 or so episodes that are almost watchable and did some extreme alterations to them but even that seems like a waste.
Sabacooza
12-08-2017, 04:39 AM
I wouldn't mind a remaster but while we're at it, remaster the 2003 series and also release the Nick series on Bluray as well.
d_osborn
12-08-2017, 10:41 AM
I'm no expert on these things, but would old 2D 80's animation even look any different in HD?
I don't see how they could make it look better but if they did I'd double dip.
If the original film masters still exist, it could look outstanding. There's a fan restoration of the original 16mm Real Ghostbusters 2:00 promo reel happening now that looks gorgeous. Yes, animation errors and mistakes will only be MORE noticeable, but I see it more as preserving the original presentation, squeezing as much image quality out as possible-- warts and all. I would LOVE to see the original 5-part FW TMNT mini scanned/restored in HD if possible.
https://www.facebook.com/robert.m.barbieri/videos/10155996892858793/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1476720649259650/
2003 and Nick were more than likely produced digitally, so SD is probably all that's ever going to be possible. Older material was still produced on gorgeous, gorgeous film. The 1990 film already has an outstanding 1080 BR transfer, but I would love to see Barron's VHS workprint copy.
Sabacooza
12-08-2017, 11:39 AM
The Nick show was done digitally and in HD.They have 1080p on their website and it's even broadcast in 1080p so there's no excuse when it comes to that show. I also don't think it's much of a stretch that they have a higher quality version of the 2003 show laying around.
Vegita-San
12-08-2017, 11:51 AM
i wouldn't mind a complete retrace of the show modified for hd angles.
of course, with 'replacement voices' fixed also.
oldmanwinters
12-08-2017, 11:54 AM
I don't see how they could make it look better but if they did I'd double dip.
I hear some of the international DVD releases of the old toon actually do look a little bit better simply because they didn't have to compress too many episodes on a single disc.
Thread on the German release:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=37924
d_osborn
12-08-2017, 12:13 PM
The Nick show was done digitally and in HD.They have 1080p on their website and it's even broadcast in 1080p so there's no excuse when it comes to that show. I also don't think it's much of a stretch that they have a higher quality version of the 2003 show laying around.\
Yeah, brain fart on Nick. It was produced and distributed in HD obviously. I don't think the 03 show was ever transferred to a high def medium during production. Possibly HD master tapes? I wouldn't think so, but I'm not sure what the animation industry was using at that time.
The FW show was absolutely produced using 16/35mm film. If the master reels still exist, 4K transfers of the show could be scanned. It's a pretty cheap process now, too. I just had a 35mm reel scanned for the Ghostbusters doc... GORGEOUS gorgeous gorgeous.
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
12-08-2017, 01:16 PM
Why not correct the animation errors instead?
FredWolfLeonardo
12-08-2017, 01:56 PM
Why not correct the animation errors instead?
Because the animation errors are very iconic/amusing. The 80s show wouldnt be the same without them.
d_osborn
12-08-2017, 01:59 PM
Why not correct the animation errors instead?
WAY more cost on top of scanning/restoring the original reels, not to mention respect for the original material--warts and all.
CyberCubed
12-08-2017, 02:02 PM
There are waaaay too many animation errors to even warrant correcting them all. Not even just talking about the bandanna errors either, but often times characters clothing or parts of mutants/animals were colored incorrectly. One ep they forgot to draw Shredder's pants for a scene. :lol:
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
12-08-2017, 02:22 PM
One ep they forgot to draw Shredder's pants for a scene. :lol:
Which was that?
FredWolfLeonardo
12-08-2017, 02:23 PM
Which was that?
Enter the Fly
newfan
12-08-2017, 02:59 PM
I wouldn't mind a remaster but while we're at it, remaster the 2003 series and also release the Nick series on Bluray as well.
People have been asking a lot on twitter for Bluray, the TMNT twitter people have said they've passed fan demand on to Nick but also said that Nick generally doesn't release Blurays.
Maybe fan demand will encourage it.
Nick doesn't own Fred Wolf though do they, or have I got that wrong?
One of the eps on my DVD (80s TMNT) has Donatello and Shredder looking like he is wearing pink rather than purple.
CyberCubed
12-08-2017, 03:01 PM
Nick released Avatar and Legend of Korra on blu-ray, and they were two most of the most popular Nick action cartoons before TMNT.
I'm sure the Nick series will get blu-ray sets eventually though, it's their own series and it's on HD on itunes.
newfan
12-08-2017, 03:04 PM
[QUOTE=CyberCubed;1733769]Nick released Avatar and Legend of Korra on blu-ray, and they were two most of the most popular Nick action cartoons before TMNT.
QUOTE]
Well they did say, typically tbf.
Sumac
12-08-2017, 03:09 PM
I just hope for a good collection of all 10 seasons preferably in good quality on as less discs as possible.
Maybe something like that already exists - I am not really knowledgeable when it comes to home releases of TMNT, because, when I want to rewatch stuff, I usually go to YouTube anyway.
CyberCubed
12-08-2017, 03:11 PM
All the cartoons are already on DVD, but they're all old releases.
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
12-08-2017, 03:23 PM
but they're all old releases.
Except Nickelodeon.
pferreira
12-14-2017, 04:35 PM
I'd love to see the FW cartoon in HD! It needs a remaster although it would also be great if they did a Time Life style blu-ray set and packed it with loads of extra features. For the incredible success that was the 80s cartoon I have no idea why we haven't seen an extras packed release for this show yet.
Why not correct the animation errors instead?Too costly as they'd have to correct a lot of animation. Some episodes are very off model as well.
I hear some of the international DVD releases of the old toon actually do look a little bit better simply because they didn't have to compress too many episodes on a single disc.
Thread on the German release:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=37924Yeah I remember someone did a screen capture and the German release episodes looked better. Good thing I own those then. :D
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