Donnie's missing tooth

[funatic]

I mentioned this as an afterthought in the Monster Arc thread, and am surprised that no one else was surprised that those episodes inferred that Donnie has been missing a tooth this whole series:

I'm probably the only one just now watching these Halloween episodes near Christmas, so sorry if it's been mentioned before, but did anyone notice how Donnie only had three incisors between his canine teeth after he became a vampire?? (visual aid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcB1XndrXHw) All this time I thought he had a big gap, but this suggests he's actually missing a tooth. Weird.

http://i68.tinypic.com/2qdof86.jpg

Did everyone else always think it was a missing tooth, or did you all think he had a gap this whole time like me?

Conversely, maybe this was just a design error that slipped through the cracks in a big way?

Let's get to the tooth of the matter. :embarass:

[sdp]

I always thought it was a missing tooth.

[CyberCubed]

Wait till Vegita-san comes into this thread to declare this a plothole and throw subtle insults at Ciro for not explaining every little damn thing.

[Autbot_Benz]

Wait till Vegita-san comes into this thread to declare this a plothole and throw subtle insults at Ciro for not explaining every little damn thing.

Its funny cause its true

[victory_angel]

It’s not a missing tooth, it’s just a gap.

J-man actually pointed out in his review of Lone Rat and Cubs that Donnie is often seen using a spark plug as a pacifier or sucking his thumb. And he learned that constant oral fixations such as that can lead to diastema (gap or part in ones front teeth)

[sdp]

But we have in show canon evidence now thanks to Funatic, so while that theory was logical, it's not canon.

[oldmanwinters]

Maybe Vampire Don just grew an extra tooth where one didn't actually belong. Huh? Huh?

:trolleye:

[funatic]

Well I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who thought it was a gap, seems to fit his character better than a missing tooth (Casey's got that well covered). I still have a feeling it started as a gap and whoever was in charge of Donnie's vampire design didn't get the memo. It's interesting to look at images of Don throughout the series and watch it move from dead center (suggesting gap), to a bit to the side (suggesting missing tooth).

[IndigoErth]

Huh. Well how 'bout that. I always figured it was a gap, rather than missing.

Although I suppose it could have always been a gap that became a missing tooth far down the line in that ep., simply by design rather than any series-wide intention.

[newhire13]

It’s not a missing tooth, it’s just a gap.

J-man actually pointed out in his review of Lone Rat and Cubs that Donnie is often seen using a spark plug as a pacifier or sucking his thumb. And he learned that constant oral fixations such as that can lead to diastema (gap or part in ones front teeth)

I noticed that too. Super subtle explanation of it.

[Candy Kappa]

I thought it was a gap, but Vampire Don confirms it being a missing tooth. Don't really care one way or the other.

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f0d5cce3463e74dcddfa5c90540bc1c1/tumblr_inline_ow4rb8OCtp1riylww_540.png

[Cryomancer]

Didn't one of those shorts have a bit where he loses a tooth? How canon you wanna consider those is up in the air but I seem to recall that?

[Candy Kappa]

I don't remember losing any tooth in the shorts, but the time travel one had Raph crack his plastron

[newhire13]

I'm pretty sure Ciro's character design sheet says Donnie has a gap too. I imagine the vampire Donnie's teeth looks like he is missing teeth when he really just has a gap.

[plastroncafe]

Well I mean, Vampire Don is missing a tooth, but yeah...I thought it was always intended to be a gap.

[IndigoErth]

If it's a missing tooth, that was kind of an oddly narrow tooth compared to the others. Unless it's a genetic fluke and simply never developed and grew in... Can happen.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

He was always called gappy or gap tooth in the series.

Besides isn't gap tooth and missing tooth the same thing?

edit: realized the difference. I guess Donnie's teeth could've been too small for his jaws. Could be a missing one instead or maybe both but I'm looking to hard into it by this point :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

I always thought it was a missing tooth.

Why would anyone think that, though? Right in the middle? Who has a middle front tooth?

[plastroncafe]

Why would anyone think that, though? Right in the middle? Who has a middle front tooth?

I do.
Granted, there was some assembly required for that, but...the fact remains.

[sdp]

Well most of y'all look like fools now as screen canon clearly shows it's a missing tooth, how it happened we will never know.

Trying to use word of god intended shenanigans slips like water on my raincoat. Y'all are no different than those who want to say Mutant Apocalypse is an alternate universe or that Rise April is the daughter of Baxter who takes her name after she see's her file on a Kraang ship that took Real April to avoid her father while scientist adult red headed April won't be shown until Season 5 which it seems Rise won't make it that far.

[IndigoErth]

What.



Given the size of the present front teeth... I think I'm gonna go with a missing lateral incisor that never even developed, giving the left central incisor too much room that allowed it to shift to the left and grow in at abnormal placement. Since that one next to the fang is comparatively too large to be the smaller lateral incisor that should be there.

[victory_angel]

Considering how rough Raph could be with his younger brothers in the beginning he could be the reason for the missing tooth. And that could’ve the reason Donnie was so quick at caving to Raph’s threats of hitting him.

[newhire13]

Its a gap.

http://78.media.tumblr.com/81920627bdf7c61d24e3472af74a9234/tumblr_inline_nvpsm9hha71t4gtop_1280.jpg

[funatic]

Those are Ciro's original character designs, right? So I guess that confirms that this was a pretty significant design error on the vampire Donatello model.

[IndigoErth]

Unless a tooth that never existed in the first place caused the gap, and then it would make it both a gap by birth and not a design error. :P

[Cure]

Why would anyone think that, though? Right in the middle? Who has a middle front tooth?

I do.
Granted, there was some assembly required for that, but...the fact remains.

TC does, too.

https://i.imgur.com/eIbEb0S.jpg

[sdp]

Its a gap.

http://78.media.tumblr.com/81920627bdf7c61d24e3472af74a9234/tumblr_inline_nvpsm9hha71t4gtop_1280.jpg

Those are Ciro's original character designs, right? So I guess that confirms that this was a pretty significant design error on the vampire Donatello model.

Word of god is not necessarily canon. Case closed.

#teamtooth #notgonnabudge #usowrong

[Chabrendeki]

TC does, too.

https://i.imgur.com/eIbEb0S.jpg

Best reply ever. :D

[funatic]

:D

Best emoji ever.

[Cryomancer]

I don't remember losing any tooth in the shorts, but the time travel one had Raph crack his plastron

I am dumb and am probably thinking of that, yes.

[Candy Kappa]

I wonder when they decided it was a missing tooth and not a gap, cause concept art say gap and the OotS game have Donnie depicted with a gap. Possibly a decision made for the Monster arc as that's when we see the Nick design Turtles with individual sculpted teeth on the cgi model.

http://www.trueachievements.com/customimages/017580.jpg

Although the designs from OotS the Game can be easily chalked down to communication issues or Red Fly's own design decision like revoking the third frontal toe

[Powder]

It being a missing tooth was obviously a flub or creative liberty taken by whoever created that one specific model. It was always a gap otherwise.

[Shark_Blade]

It's a gap bornwise to me. Always has been.