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Andrew NDB
01-22-2018, 03:13 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8b/b6/06/8bb606e5df47a02105d244b29add2df1--watch-movies-science-fiction.jpg

http://www.zgemag.com/biff-2018-interview-ed-neumeier/

https://www.cosmicbooknews.com/new-1987-robocop-sequel-works

Oh damn... I really hope this happens.

newfan
01-22-2018, 03:19 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8b/b6/06/8bb606e5df47a02105d244b29add2df1--watch-movies-science-fiction.jpg

http://www.zgemag.com/biff-2018-interview-ed-neumeier/

https://www.cosmicbooknews.com/new-1987-robocop-sequel-works

Oh damn... I really hope this happens.

Is that for real?
Could we finally get another attempt that doesn't flop?
Edit, just gone and taken a look at Robocop Archvie site... they're talking about but of course don't know more than the article..

The Deadman
01-22-2018, 04:07 PM
Only if the guy from the first 3 is Robocop.

Andrew NDB
01-22-2018, 04:10 PM
Only if the guy from the first 3 is Robocop.

You mean the first two. And I bet he is.

newfan
01-22-2018, 04:23 PM
You mean the first two. And I bet he is.

Weller is in his 70's now isn't he? He did say he would do it again at a panel but it depends when they want to set it I guess.

Andrew NDB
01-22-2018, 04:26 PM
Weller is in his 70's now isn't he? He did say he would do it again at a panel but it depends when they want to set it I guess.

It'd presumably be a Blade Runner 2049 kind of a thing. RoboCop: 30 Years Later, Weller as an obsolete model lawman. So many possibilities within that.

Sumac
01-22-2018, 05:08 PM
It'd presumably be a Blade Runner 2049 kind of a thing. RoboCop: 30 Years Later, Weller as an obsolete model lawman. So many possibilities within that.
Yeah, I can see that.
It would be interesting to see evolution of ideas and designs from original trilogy.
I just really hope that they find competent producers, who won't mess with the movie.

ProactiveMan
01-22-2018, 06:49 PM
They'll have to come up with a reason as to why he has a gut now, but I'll watch this the second it comes out. Old Robocop is what I was dreaming of while watching the remake. The whole time I kept thinking, why can't they do a Rocky Balboa style Robocop movie?

TigerClaw
01-22-2018, 07:24 PM
It'd presumably be a Blade Runner 2049 kind of a thing. RoboCop: 30 Years Later, Weller as an obsolete model lawman. So many possibilities within that.
If they go that route, the movie would be about a new Robocop looking for answers, and searching for the original Robocop to find out what has happened in the past.

Or they built a newer model that's more advance, and the original Robocop has to proof that he isn't obsolete, and can still do things better then the newer one.

Sumac
01-22-2018, 08:43 PM
On note about Weller, I don't think they will put him into the suit - the original suits were extremely uncomfortable and heavy, and he is an old man now.
Most likely they will do some superimposing of his face onto double or something.

Andrew NDB
01-22-2018, 08:48 PM
On note about Weller, I don't think they will put him into the suit - the original suits were extremely uncomfortable and heavy, and he is an old man now.
Most likely they will do some superimposing of his face onto double or something.

You might be right, then again... #1. If they're going to do this, they're probably going to go at it old-school. #2. Hollywood has had 30 years since Robocop to make suits like that less grueling to be in.

ProactiveMan
01-22-2018, 08:53 PM
Yeah - they can paint foam to look like metal these days.

Sumac
01-22-2018, 09:02 PM
CGI route would have been easier.
But we'll see, if this idea materialize into anything of substance.

Andrew NDB
01-22-2018, 09:20 PM
It's a bit the opposite of something like Ninja Turtles, though... where the rise of mo-cap suits and CGI allows for more movement and freedom and such... Robocop? He doesn't need any of that. He's supposed to be this lumbering hulk of a thing, clomping about.

newfan
01-23-2018, 12:38 AM
It was a good suit but yes a nightmare to wear, they could get away without GCI if they wanted to keep his movements the same/similar, I suppose it depends what they want to do. Hopefully still very close to the design whatever they do.

ProactiveMan
01-23-2018, 03:25 AM
Apparently they reused suits made for Peter Weller on Robocop 3 because Orion was nearly broke. Robert Burke was cast in part because he would more or less fit in the costume. They had to hack it a bit, and apparently he had a miserable time wearing it.

newfan
01-23-2018, 11:18 AM
Yeah they used the suit from R2 due to funding, this was a lighter weight than the one in the first movie but Burke said that by the time they had finished adjusting it to fit him it was quite heavy.

Hopefully this goes ahead, with the right story and hopefully a good enough budget they can do something better than some of things we've gotten so far...trying not to get too excited until something is confirmed though.

Andrew NDB
07-11-2018, 01:09 PM
Looks like it's happening! "Robocop Returns." Neill Blomkamp has been tapped to direct, so it has to be chugging along.

https://deadline.com/2018/07/robocop-neill-blomkamp-directing-robocop-returns-justin-rhodes-ed-neumeier-michael-miner-mgm-1202424639/

newfan
07-11-2018, 01:49 PM
:tgrin: Until we hear something that brings a downer I'm happy... and even then I'm still going to see it.
Hope they keep the design.

Not sure on the title though, also wonder where he is returning from.
I remember reading that an original idea for 2 was that he was blown to bits and brought back on-line 25 years later, is that right? was that every a serious idea for 2? Anyway hope they don't do something like that, not too far ahead.


....LOL though if they did they could have cast Nancy Allen as an older Lewis seen as it's years later. (cause she wouldn't have died give the sequels are ignored)

TigerClaw
07-11-2018, 03:29 PM
:tgrin: Until we hear something that brings a downer I'm happy... and even then I'm still going to see it.
Hope they keep the design.

Not sure on the title though, also wonder where he is returning from.
I remember reading that an original idea for 2 was that he was blown to bits and brought back on-line 25 years later, is that right? was that every a serious idea for 2? Anyway hope they don't do something like that, not too far ahead.


....LOL though if they did they could have cast Nancy Allen as an older Lewis seen as it's years later. (cause she wouldn't have died give the sequels are ignored)
I would love to see them bring back Peter Weller for Robocop.

newfan
07-11-2018, 03:35 PM
I would love to see them bring back Peter Weller for Robocop.

He said a couple of years ago at a Q&A thing that he would do it again but not sure he still feels that way , seen as he has also said he is done with Robocop :)

Powder
07-11-2018, 06:41 PM
Robocop with Blomkamp? Wow, dope.

Andrew NDB
07-11-2018, 06:43 PM
He said a couple of years ago at a Q&A thing that he would do it again but not sure he still feels that way

I would be shocked if Weller isn't going to be a lock.

TigerClaw
07-11-2018, 06:45 PM
I would be shocked if Weller isn't going to be a lock.
They also need to get Nancy Allen back.

Robocop with Blomkamp? Wow, dope.
Blomkamp hasn't had a hit movie since District 9. So hopefully he will strike gold with this. He was originally gonna do a new Alien movie.

oldmanwinters
07-11-2018, 06:51 PM
So Robocop (2014) no longer happened?

TigerClaw
07-11-2018, 06:52 PM
So Robocop (2014) no longer happened?
Robocop 2014 wasn't even bad. I enjoyed it at the time. Its just its own thing. It didn't have the satire from the original.

drgon78
07-11-2018, 08:29 PM
Robocop 2014 was bad and something I would like to forget about.

I have mixed feelings about a Robocop 4.

Allio
07-12-2018, 01:27 AM
design of Robocop 2014 wasn't bad. I wouldn't mind a team up.

Andrew NDB
07-12-2018, 01:56 AM
They also need to get Nancy Allen back.

I'm of two minds. One, sh**, wouldn't it be great to have her back, acting against Weller again? The other, damn... that would mean Robocop 2 and (less importantly) Robocop 3 didn't ever happen.

I tend to think the pros outweigh the cons in not involving her but still mentioning her in passing.

Blomkamp hasn't had a hit movie since District 9. So hopefully he will strike gold with this. He was originally gonna do a new Alien movie.

Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of blowback on this with him being involved. Say what you will about him, the problems with all of his post-District 9 stuff have been on a script level, for me. And he has nothing to do with that for this. He seems a pretty good fit for this, from what I can gauge.

Robocop 2014 wasn't even bad. I enjoyed it at the time. Its just its own thing. It didn't have the satire from the original.

Or, I dunno... even 1% of the teeth of it. You can't do Verhoeven's Robocop in PG-13. There's no way. They failed at doing a PG-13 remake of Verhoeven's super bloody Total Recall a couple years before it... why try again and hope for a different result?

design of Robocop 2014 wasn't bad. I wouldn't mind a team up.

As much as it'd be fun to have the remake Robocop show up in the new movie and show up as this other Robocop against Weller's old school model, there's really no way to reconcile the two timelines, even if we scrub Robocop 2 and 3 from the equation. They had the option to leave it sort of vague and open when they made the remake... sadly, they chose not to. OCP doesn't even exist in that world.

Sumac
07-12-2018, 03:13 AM
Is this a remake or a continuation?

newfan
07-12-2018, 03:23 AM
Is this a remake or a continuation?

From what I have read a sequel from the first movie, ignoring the others.

drgon78
07-12-2018, 06:10 AM
I can understand ignoring the third one but the second one was awesome.

Sumac
07-12-2018, 06:50 AM
From what I have read a sequel from the first movie, ignoring the others.
So he is trying to pull off what he failed to do with an Alien franchise?
Ugh.

Well, considering that none of RoboCop sequels were especially good*, I'd say goodspeed. I just hope he will be able to make it at least somewhat witty and sarcastic, rather than preachy-preachy.

* I like RoboCop 2, but it was too heavy-handed with its approach and lost wittiness of the original in favor of edginess. RoboCain rules, though.

Andrew NDB
07-12-2018, 10:53 AM
So he is trying to pull off what he failed to do with an Alien franchise?
Ugh.

No, this has been the plan since January, long before he was ever hired as director.

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2300412/a-new-robocop-movie-is-coming-but-not-in-the-way-youd-expect

Well, considering that none of RoboCop sequels were especially good*, I'd say goodspeed. I just hope he will be able to make it at least somewhat witty and sarcastic, rather than preachy-preachy.

* I like RoboCop 2, but it was too heavy-handed with its approach and lost wittiness of the original in favor of edginess. RoboCain rules, though.

I think the "It's a sequel to the first one only!" will largely be a PR thing, but when you watch the movie there will be no reason Robo 2 and 3 couldn't have happened.

TigerClaw
07-12-2018, 11:53 AM
I enjoyed Robocop 2. It was a lot more violent then the 1st one. But it had more humor then the 1st one. Like when Robocop was reprogrammed and was acting all nice and stuff.

AquaParade
07-12-2018, 12:06 PM
I fell in love with Neil Blomkamp's work when I first saw District 9. While his recent films haven't made a positive impression on me, I'm always intrigued to see what he does next. I'm excited for this film.

For some reason, I've never seen Robocop, but I loved his concept art for the Alien movie that fell through.

newfan
07-12-2018, 12:35 PM
I'd take an R-Rating too, I mean it never took off with kids anyway so why not bring it back? Also agreed, if going along the lines of the first movie it doesn't suit a PG13. I'd still watch if it was PG-13 though.

Classic suit or very much resembling it too.

As for the Nancy comments, she wouldn't need to have a major role like being his partner, she could be higher up now but still have some involvement with him. I'd like her character to be in it anyway.

So far as what we end up with, I didn't like everything that came after the first movie anyway so it can't be worse (don't want to jinx it)
I'm going to let myself feel a little excited for this for the time being :)

Andrew NDB
07-12-2018, 01:44 PM
I'd take an R-Rating too, I mean it never took off with kids anyway so why not bring it back?

It shouldn't even be a question. And no way would Blomkamp sign onto a PG-13 Robocop movie.

Also agreed, if going along the lines of the first movie it doesn't suit a PG13. I'd still watch if it was PG-13 though.

The last two Robocop movies were PG-13... both were failures. I don't think they'll try it a third time.

As for the Nancy comments, she wouldn't need to have a major role like being his partner, she could be higher up now but still have some involvement with him. I'd like her character to be in it anyway.

She's like 70. She could be, like, the police chief or something if they really, really want to put her in somewhere.

newfan
07-12-2018, 02:15 PM
It shouldn't even be a question. And no way would Blomkamp sign onto a PG-13 Robocop movie.

The last two Robocop movies were PG-13... both were failures. I don't think they'll try it a third time.
.

Agreed, does seem hopeful we'll get that then.

Andrew NDB
08-13-2018, 06:22 PM
To no real surprise, Blomkamp wants Peter Weller.

https://www.cosmicbooknews.com/robocop-peter-weller

newfan
08-14-2018, 03:17 AM
Weller just attended a comic on on London, signing robo merch, maybe he would want to do this.

Apparantly they may go with their original idea to the 2nd movie which was where robo was blown up and switched back on years later. Not sure if it will be 25 years but if they did this story would work for returning characters getting an appearance.

Andrew NDB
08-14-2018, 10:49 AM
Apparantly they may go with their original idea to the 2nd movie which was where robo was blown up and switched back on years later. Not sure if it will be 25 years but if they did this story would work for returning characters getting an appearance.

Maybe, but I'm not sure what returning characters would be worth seeing. Including a 70 year-old Lewis just to include Lewis doesn't seem like it would add much. I guess his wife, particularly his now-adult son? One of the strongest things about "Prime Directives" to me was the father-adult son reunion.

Mostly I just want to see RoboCop as a symbol of yore, waking up in a weak, over legislatured future and him just being this relic that's looked down on... yet gets results better than even the modern day RoboCops, or whatever they have.

newfan
08-14-2018, 11:27 AM
I get the feeling it may be something like that. So far as Lewis, as we said before, her role would likely be different and smaller. I'd appreciate an inclusion if they could fit her in and it worked, I mean people this age do act still.
I suppose I have to prepare myself for poor robo biting it in this one maybe.
Still, hoping this goes ahead.

Andrew NDB
08-14-2018, 11:37 AM
I suppose I have to prepare myself for poor robo biting it in this one maybe.

Better that than if we start hearing hubbub about, "The first in a planned trilogy..."

newfan
08-14-2018, 11:44 AM
Better that than if we start hearing hubbub about, "The first in a planned trilogy..."

Well he hasn't died yet but if they may do it here, more so if they use Weller? You know to kind of finish it. I don't want to hear planned trilogy either, if the movie did justify a 2nd then all the more Robocop but they really should plan one at a time, As should some others where they have had failures

newfan
08-15-2019, 03:33 AM
Blomkamp tweeted that he is off this, said MGM needs or wants to shoot it now and he currently shooting a horror/thriller.

https://twitter.com/NeillBlomkamp/status/1161887748535439360

oldmanwinters
08-15-2019, 08:17 AM
Blomkamp tweeted that he is off this, said MGM needs or wants to shoot it now and he currently shooting a horror/thriller.

https://twitter.com/NeillBlomkamp/status/1161887748535439360

Considering how long it's been since the last RoboCop movie, who cares if they have to wait another year or two?

Andrew NDB
08-15-2019, 10:56 AM
My question is, wtf does Blomkamp have blowing up his skirt that's so important that he needs to leave freakin' Robocop Returns?

Something happened and it wasn't a scheduling thing.

newfan
08-15-2019, 11:16 AM
It does seem a little abrupt, on the 29th June he posted that the script was being written and when someone asked about the suit (in relation to it being original) he replied something like '1million% original' Also he'd been in talks with Weller too....then this, like 6 weeks later.

AquaParade
08-16-2019, 02:35 PM
My question is, wtf does Blomkamp have blowing up his skirt that's so important that he needs to leave freakin' Robocop Returns?

Something happened and it wasn't a scheduling thing.

Way easier to believe it was a creative issue. He may have already been feeling discouraged, because I’m pretty sure he wanted Peter Weller to return, but Peter Weller wasn’t interested, if I remember correctly.

I want to see whatever Neil does next. I’m such a huge fan of District 9 and still believe he could pull of something cool.

Andrew NDB
08-16-2019, 02:44 PM
Way easier to believe it was a creative issue. He may have already been feeling discouraged, because I’m pretty sure he wanted Peter Weller to return, but Peter Weller wasn’t interested, if I remember correctly.

Or maybe he was told "no way" to a hard R rating.

I want to see whatever Neil does next. I’m such a huge fan of District 9 and still believe he could pull of something cool.

He's kind of becoming the king of disappointing people, though. First Alien 5, now this?

newfan
08-16-2019, 03:13 PM
Yeah I have seen a couple fans complain about the same thing with him in light of this news.

So far as Weller, I caught a video (not sure where to look for it now) where Weller was saying he wouldn't do anything Robocop unless there is money/payment, otherwise he's done. Obviously there would be for a movie but I don't know if talks progressed any further (amount he'd want and what they could pay etc.)

Andrew NDB
08-16-2019, 03:23 PM
So far as Weller, I caught a video (not sure where to look for it now) where Weller was saying he wouldn't do anything Robocop unless there is money/payment, otherwise he's done.

That's a pretty dumb thing to say, for obvious reasons. But he's been complaining about how miserable being in that suit was for decades.

Pretty sure, though...

#1. Of course he'll f***ing do it.

#2. The Robocop suit could probably be made a lot more comfortably now in 2019, plus with better cooling tech, etc..

#3. The actual need for him to spend extended periods of time in the suit is pretty minimal. Alternately, as they really just need his face and voice, the whole movie could be his face mo-capped onto a stunt double's.

turtle1237
08-16-2019, 06:40 PM
Didn't Robocop have 3 4 and 5 called the prime directives, and than ended the series on a decent tv show?(Yeah I have it on DVD)

Andrew NDB
08-16-2019, 06:46 PM
Didn't Robocop have 3 4 and 5 called the prime directives, and than ended the series on a decent tv show?(Yeah I have it on DVD)

Eh... no. There's Robocop 1-3, then the Robocop TV series which I struggled to get through, and then a few years later there was the Robocop: Prime Directives 4 part miniseries which I actually remember liking quite a bit. I don't think Prime Directives is compatible with the TV show because of what happens with his son.

Sumac
08-16-2019, 07:14 PM
Didn't Robocop have 3 4 and 5 called the prime directives, and than ended the series on a decent tv show?(Yeah I have it on DVD)
It was a separate Canadian (I think) series, which is a not considered to be a proper sequel to the movies. I didn't like it, since RoboCop felt like a background character and focus of the show was on the boring newcomer nonames.

The news about Robo 4 is disappointing. I think, Blowkamp (sic?) could have nailed the town set by the first movie or at least provide some adequate alternative. As long as it wouldn't be grimderp, like Robo 2 or castrated childish trash, like Robo 3 or producer-ridden mess like RoboReboot, it could've been good. :roll::P

Andrew NDB
08-16-2019, 09:31 PM
Well, let's wait and see who they bring in as the new director before we write it off completely. It is a bit disheartening that they want to rush it out, though... if that's even true.

Luke795
08-17-2019, 11:27 AM
There were also 2 Robocop cartoons. RoboCop: The Animated Series in 1988 with only 12 episodes and RoboCop: Alpha Commando in 1998 with 40 episodes.

ZariusTwo
08-31-2019, 02:54 AM
Arrow video are putting out a brand new 4K restoration of the original movie, both the directors and theatrical cuts will be available on two discs, along with a standard definition version of the international tv cut that contains alternate lines and scenes

https://bloody-disgusting.com/home-video/3581406/arrow-bringing-original-robocop-blu-ray-us-uk-brand-new-bonus-features/

Andrew NDB
11-20-2019, 05:39 PM
"Robocop Returns" has found its director:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/abe-forsythe-to-helm-robocop-returns/

newfan
11-21-2019, 12:55 AM
So, the Script which was originally intended for the original sequel was re-written and it is now being re-written again.
Wonder how different it will be (from what had been planned so far) with the this new uprising director will they still want the original suit design and Weller etc?

Sumac
11-21-2019, 10:05 AM
Given how much Hollywood believes in NOSTALGIA, I believe, they will bring original suit at the very least.
Sadly, I am not really sure about quality of the movie. At least Robo has enough stinkers already, so one more, one less, won't make a difference, as opposed to Terminator.

newfan
11-21-2019, 10:18 AM
Given how much Hollywood believes in NOSTALGIA, I believe, they will bring original suit at the very least.
Sadly, I am not really sure about quality of the movie. At least Robo has enough stinkers already, so one more, one less, won't make a difference, as opposed to Terminator.

:lol: I thought the same thing about the sequels/spin offs. Also, even if it is another flop, least it would end with this Robocop and not the remake version. Though if they are still going with the story where he is blown up and switched back on 25-years later, I wonder if they will modify him a little. That doesn't have to mean change to the appearance though.

AquaParade
11-21-2019, 10:20 AM
I believe the original RoboCop is an awesome film. I've been indoctrinated by the internet. I even own the film digitally. But I still haven't been able to get through it and I don't know why.

I mean, obviously it comes down to subjective tastes, but it seems right up my alley. Going to give it another go sometime.

Meanwhile, I'm really just wondering what Neil Blomkamp is up to now. My faith in him is wavering, for sure, but tease "Distrct 10" and you'll have me pumped.

newfan
11-21-2019, 10:27 AM
t tease "Distrct 10" and you'll have me pumped.

He kind of did mention it, he did a poll just before he announced he was off Robocop, it was between Robocop returns and District 10. (which confused people as he was working on Robocop at the time) I voted Robo but before I could reply to the tweet it was deleted.

AquaParade
11-21-2019, 10:58 AM
He kind of did mention it, he did a poll just before he announced he was off Robocop, it was between Robocop returns and District 10. (which confused people as he was working on Robocop at the time) I voted Robo but before I could reply to the tweet it was deleted.

That's really interesting to me. Thanks for sharing!

IMJ
11-21-2019, 01:00 PM
It'd presumably be a Blade Runner 2049 kind of a thing. RoboCop: 30 Years Later, Weller as an obsolete model lawman. So many possibilities within that.

This post made me incredibly excited that this could be true.

Andrew NDB
11-21-2019, 01:08 PM
Given how much Hollywood believes in NOSTALGIA, I believe, they will bring original suit at the very least.
Sadly, I am not really sure about quality of the movie. At least Robo has enough stinkers already, so one more, one less, won't make a difference, as opposed to Terminator.

Robocop is way less toxic than Terminator. There is no trilogy of failed trilogy starters and beyond the failed remake 5 years ago, no movies at all for almost 30 years.

oldmanwinters
11-21-2019, 01:18 PM
Robocop is way less toxic than Terminator. There is no trilogy of failed trilogy starters and beyond the failed remake 5 years ago, no movies at all for almost 30 years.

I would love to own the Marvel Productions animated series on DVD.

Also, did anybody else ever read the original Marvel Robocop comics? They aren't over-the-top gory (as is the case these days) but had some nice character beats.

I believe the original RoboCop is an awesome film. I've been indoctrinated by the internet. I even own the film digitally. But I still haven't been able to get through it and I don't know why.

I mean, obviously it comes down to subjective tastes, but it seems right up my alley. Going to give it another go sometime.

Meanwhile, I'm really just wondering what Neil Blomkamp is up to now. My faith in him is wavering, for sure, but tease "Distrct 10" and you'll have me pumped.

Robocop is one of those movies where it doesn't feel like there is a clear protagonist/antagonist plot established. Murphy is killed, comes back as something possibly sub-human, kills a bunch of the people who killed him (but doesn't seem to take much personal pleasure in it), and finally takes down the corrupt company man as a little favor to mankind... movie over.

Egon1982
11-21-2019, 02:14 PM
Given how much Hollywood believes in NOSTALGIA, I believe, they will bring original suit at the very least.
Sadly, I am not really sure about quality of the movie. At least Robo has enough stinkers already, so one more, one less, won't make a difference, as opposed to Terminator.

I mean i'm a fan of the character Robocop since i was 5 when i saw the movie in theaters with my parents and had some of the toys when i was 6 and watched the sunday morning cartoon and had comics even Terminator vs Robocop and saw Robocop 2 in theaters as i really enjoyed it, i find Robocop 2 to be highly underrated as it may have some problems but still is a fun kickass ultraviolent (as the first) sequel that has Robocop as a badass who took no prisoners and took names and even has the same quality satire of the first movie, RC 2 was a dark satire on PC culture and i really like how it gives PC culture the middle finger and ideas even RoboCain who is a great villain who is a cyborg who is also a drug junkie. It was the last time Robocop was a true badass and the last worthwhile Robocop thing that was true to the nature of the first movie even the adult entertainment of R rated violent dark satire with edge and funny satire done right.

And the reason why is that it was a continuous downgrade for the character after RoboCop 2. Not one but two PG-13 movies, a lame syndicated TV show where he couldn't shoot people so he used trick shots and shot foam, an embarrassing cartoon where he was transformed into an Inspector Gadget clone, one terrible 2003 video game and and a pathetic mini-series where RoboCop was portrayed by the least intimidating actor possible who was so short he might as well have been Roborunt.

It's like Nancy Allen once said:
" When you take an adult and mature themed movie like Robocop and you turn it into a fairytale to attract family audiences it just doesn't work... "

Then after all of that crap you had the remake which was a rotting dump on a sundae of garbage even those embarassing KFC commercials as he's been turned into a joke after R2. RoboCop hasn't had a good film let alone incarnation of the character since 1990 except maybe Terminator vs Robocop comics in 1993 by Frank Miller which are great and of course the recent Boom comics which were made by people who have a clue of what the character's roots/nature from the first 2 movies are from even the same dark satire of the first 2.

They should do a GOOD video game on Robocop and also do an adult animated TV-MA Hulu or Amazon Prime exclusive series similar to Spawn TAS and Castlevania that takes Robocop back to his R-rated roots of kickass violent action and satire even being true to the nature of the character in the first 2 movies which has been missing for the last 26 years.

Check out this video by a fan of Robocop like me who is an excellent youtube critic about the rise and fall of the character:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYDlPQpNYfc

Andrew NDB
11-21-2019, 07:14 PM
Robocop is one of those movies where it doesn't feel like there is a clear protagonist/antagonist plot established. Murphy is killed, comes back as something possibly sub-human, kills a bunch of the people who killed him (but doesn't seem to take much personal pleasure in it), and finally takes down the corrupt company man as a little favor to mankind... movie over.

You're leaving out the whole business (that Robocop 2 and 3 sort of retconned away) of Murphy regaining his humanity at the end. "What's your name, son?" "Murphy."

It will be interesting to see if Robocop Returns maintains that.

And yes, I grew up on the Marvel Robocop series. Nixco!

Leo656
11-21-2019, 10:11 PM
I had a few issues of the comic but that's all. I had a few of the toys based on the animated series.

Watched the second movie for the first time in years a few months ago, and it's better than I remembered. 3 is still f*cking horrible, though. None of the satire or dark humor or social commentary from the first two, just a toothless and generic super-hero movie aimed at kids. Awful. I can barely sit through it anymore. Although I do recall that when I was 12 or whatever I thought it was alright, mostly because he had a jet pack. :lol:

Andrew NDB
11-22-2019, 12:38 AM
None of the satire or dark humor or social commentary from the first two, just a toothless and generic super-hero movie aimed at kids. Awful. I can barely sit through it anymore. Although I do recall that when I was 12 or whatever I thought it was alright, mostly because he had a jet pack. :lol:

Looks like I was exactly 12 when I saw it in theaters. Oddly enough, I remember cringing early and often throughout the movie, beginning with that kid who can remote control ED-209s. I hated that movie.

The only moment that works in the movie is when Robocop gets that jetpack and gives aerial support to the people in the streets. It's a little bit moving and the only bit that has a soul.

Leo656
11-22-2019, 01:27 AM
Ouch, I'm sorry you went through that. I only saw it on cable. :lol:

Like, I have the trilogy set on DVD but that's the only reason I have Part 3. And I'm pretty sure I've only popped the disc in once since I've owned it.

Andrew NDB
11-22-2019, 01:32 AM
Ouch, I'm sorry you went through that. I only saw it on cable. :lol:

Like, I have the trilogy set on DVD but that's the only reason I have Part 3. And I'm pretty sure I've only popped the disc in once since I've owned it.

The closest experience to it I can think of was watching TMNT 3 in the theater (which looks like came out the same year as Robocop 3!). And as a kid, I loved both TMNT 1 and loved TMNT 2 even moreso (after TMNT 2, I remember digging DEEP holes in all of our backyards trying to find ooze or something, and trying to make ooze by bottling up algae). With both TMNT 3 and Robocop 3, there was this sense in my 12 year-old mind that these movies were so bad, I knew I'd seen the last one they would make of either. I didn't expect to see Robocop 4 or TMNT 4 after that, and didn't want to.

As an adult, TMNT 3 is still BAD, but has way more heart than 2 and is an overall better movie on a story level.

Leo656
11-22-2019, 01:46 AM
You're weird. You're a weird guy. :trazz::tlol:

I kind of agree about TMNT III, though. It's kinda like Superman IV... the skeleton of it is way better than that of the previous film, BUT, you can't make movies like that for t'ree-fitty or else it doesn't matter how good your intentions are, it'll turn out like crap. Need money, mang. TMNT III wasn't as entirely "bad" as much as it was "cheap".

Although, TMNT II helped to kickstart the career of one Kevin Scott Nash, so... part of me will always forgive its many, many sins.

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newfan
11-22-2019, 02:19 AM
I tend to buy for completeness if it is a franchise I like. (Though as mentioned already they sometimes come together anyway) I think this franchise might be the most I have re-bought so far, VHS to DVD to Blu Ray and now they have the new disk set coming.. might I have to get it again.

Andrew NDB
10-18-2021, 01:16 AM
I just had a horribly depressing thought about "Robocop Returns." What if the whole reason it is being held up is because of BLM, and a general perception that audiences are angry at the police?

Sumac
10-18-2021, 06:54 AM
I just had a horribly depressing thought about "Robocop Returns." What if the whole reason it is being held up is because of BLM, and a general perception that audiences are angry at the police?
I am not sure about it - RoboCop always was always an establishment character, so he is by default on the side of "people". Not to mention in most movies he, basically, went rogue to deal with enemies.

Of course, SJW / BLM can't into context, so the mere mention that he is police officer would trigger their trashfart brains. But in the end, Holyweird knows when to fold it and who to serve when they need money.

AquaParade
10-18-2021, 07:09 AM
I just had a horribly depressing thought about "Robocop Returns." What if the whole reason it is being held up is because of BLM, and a general perception that audiences are angry at the police?

I think Hollywood would certainly be apprehensive of selling us on a cop right now, yeah. If it were to release right now, it'd pretty much have to be all about race relations.
So I think you are on to something.

newfan
10-18-2021, 07:17 AM
When I saw this thread pop up I was hoping just maybe there was news, but only very thin hope :lol:. I know there are current issues with cops but no, I feel this thread would be sitting here just like this even if events hadn't taken place.

How will things work now that Amazon owns it? so far as still making the movie. I wonder that if it has been scrapped, would Amazon consider an R rated series? Can't imagine Robo is top of their list but they own it so why use it at some point.

sdp
10-18-2021, 08:55 AM
amazon owns robocop? I would think they'd use him somehow but I think Robocop has a limited audience, he was only ever popular in the 80s basically and all attempts at reviving the concept have failed. The few original shows I've watched form Amazon like the Tick live action show (https://miscrave.com/articles/the-tick-revival/)are a mixed bag, they have the budget but the writing is a bit weak.I've never watched robocop but I'm interested in checking it out one day.

The idea of "cops" just weren't cool in the 90s or the 00's when I was growing up, people wanted to be the "anti hero" not be part of a corrupt organization. Even in wrestling the cop character was a bad guy in the 90s, only did I later find out he used to be a "good guy" back in the 80s. A "cool" cop is a hard sell, even if he's a robot, but this is how someone who has never seen the movie thinks of the character, I know it's a beloved franchise so perhaps the original movie really is that good, that's why I want to check it out.

AquaParade
10-18-2021, 09:31 AM
I don’t think a lot of people get that it’s satire until they watch the movie. They just see a “Superhero - Cop-Man” and think it’s goofy.

Sumac
10-18-2021, 11:09 AM
I don’t think a lot of people get that it’s satire until they watch the movie. They just see a “Superhero - Cop-Man” and think it’s goofy.
One need to be blind and deaf to not know that RoboCop movies are full of satire. Its like one of the main selling points of the first movie, which all successive ones failed to replicate properly.

The Deadman
10-18-2021, 10:37 PM
I just had a horribly depressing thought about "Robocop Returns." What if the whole reason it is being held up is because of BLM, and a general perception that audiences are angry at the police?

But the gangs in the first trilogy were predominately white....I dont think theyd care if they stuck to that formula.