Should there be a strong LGBTQ+ presence on "Rise of the TMNT"?

[Andrew NDB]

https://orig00.deviantart.net/2ade/f/2014/236/2/7/leo_x_raph___yaoi_awe_by_annethewolf123-d7wiqtx.jpg

What do you folks think? Is it time for the latest TMNT show to embrace the growing LGBTQ community? A gay Raphael, lesbian April, maybe a Splinter transitioning to female? Maybe a twist could be that Oroku Saki is actually a post-op... Karai?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

You've made like 5 variations of this thread.

[Andrew NDB]

You've made like 5 variations of this thread.

No I haven't.

[Candy Kappa]

Everyone is bisexual until proved otherwise, so there's already a strong LBGTQ+ presence ;)

[CyberCubed]

April should be cis who identifies as a female but is also non-binary and people should refer to her as "ze" or "zer."

[Andrew NDB]

April should be cis who identifies as a female but is also non-binary and people should refer to her as "ze" or "zer."

Wouldn't that make her not CIS, but "Genderqueer"? I thought I read that somewhere.

[ProphetofGanja]

https://orig00.deviantart.net/2ade/f/2014/236/2/7/leo_x_raph___yaoi_awe_by_annethewolf123-d7wiqtx.jpg

What do you folks think? Is it time for the latest TMNT show to embrace the growing LGBTQ community? A gay Raphael, lesbian April, maybe a Splinter transitioning to female? Maybe a twist could be that Oroku Saki is actually a post-op... Karai?


Oh Andrew, you devilish rogue :lol: you love getting people worked up

I'm surprised you didn't include a poll in this thread

[newfan]

The last one like this ended up in the disintigrator....
..... and no Andrew, you're not turning my girl in to Shredder :lol:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

This entire forum is just going to be utter bullsh!t for the next month or so, isn't it?

Thanks, Rise...

[Andrew NDB]

The last one like this ended up in the disintigrator....

That was about BayTurtles Movie #3, and it went sideways.

..... and no Andrew, you're not turning my girl in to Shredder :lol:

What do you mean? Karai dressed up in Shredder's armor to fool the Shredder Elite back in "City at War"... perhaps the writing was on the wall, even then?

[newfan]

That was about BayTurtles Movie #3, and it went sideways.



What do you mean? Karai dressed up in Shredder's armor to fool the Shredder Elite back in "City at War"... perhaps the writing was on the wall, even then?

She was still her :)

No the recent one, will they every be depicted as homosexual or something.

[TurtleWA]

https://orig00.deviantart.net/2ade/f/2014/236/2/7/leo_x_raph___yaoi_awe_by_annethewolf123-d7wiqtx.jpg

What do you folks think? Is it time for the latest TMNT show to embrace the growing LGBTQ community? A gay Raphael, lesbian April, maybe a Splinter transitioning to female? Maybe a twist could be that Oroku Saki is actually a post-op... Karai?

I’m not sure we are ready for that. At least not all at once.

[plastroncafe]

Everyone is bisexual until proved otherwise, so there's already a strong LBGTQ+ presence ;)

Quoted for truth.
:D

[k_lala]

Shredder should be gay, imagine the story line potential for this.

[wpugh2424]

I have no problem anyone's preference. One of my best friends is gay, but this does not need to be shown to young minds in my opinion

[plastroncafe]

I have this wonderful mental image of you and your best friend hanging out, and then a young mind should happen by, and you just tackle this friend so as to keep them out of sight.

[wpugh2424]

Lost to the comment

[wpugh2424]

I don't hide my friend. We both went to medical school together and did residency together but I just don't want my children exposed to things regarding sexuality too young

[Candy Kappa]

I know what you mean, one of my best friends is a straight but I wouldn't want that hetero stuff shown to kids.

[wpugh2424]

It's all a matter of opinion which is what this thread is about
No offense to anyone. I love everyone but it's just a parenting choice is all

[wpugh2424]

I know what you mean, one of my best friends is a straight but I wouldn't want that hetero stuff shown to kids.

I agree that we should just let kids be kids and not expose them to adult relations

[Shark_Blade]

The T in LBGTQ is Tcest confirmed.

I know what you mean, one of my best friends is a straight but I wouldn't want that hetero stuff shown to kids.

Lmao :tlol:

I agree that we should just let kids be kids and not expose them to adult relations
You underestimate what kids can find at such a young age. Especially in this modern age. :tcool:

[ProphetofGanja]

I don't hide my friend. We both went to medical school together and did residency together but I just don't want my children exposed to things regarding sexuality too young

Wow you're really not seeing the disconnect

[wpugh2424]

? Maybe I missed something
Anyhow I am out of this since maybe I have struck a nerve ? Maybe not

[Sighphi]

no, next question.

[saber16]

https://orig00.deviantart.net/2ade/f/2014/236/2/7/leo_x_raph___yaoi_awe_by_annethewolf123-d7wiqtx.jpg

What do you folks think? Is it time for the latest TMNT show to embrace the growing LGBTQ community? A gay Raphael, lesbian April, maybe a Splinter transitioning to female? Maybe a twist could be that Oroku Saki is actually a post-op... Karai?

... Never mind gay, straight or whatever... what's up with the teenage mutant ninja incest in this picture?? This is... ugh. Talking to children about LGBT stuff seems simple compared to explaining why two ADOLESCENT BROTHERS are locking lips.

[CyberCubed]

Don't go to the creepy sections of deviantart, and that goes for any fandom, you'll be better off.

[Autbot_Benz]

Can we not do anything else to Appease SJW's .:lol:

[IndigoErth]

If they had a friend who we end up catching a vague hint on a rare occasion that the character is part of said "LGBTQ community," fine... go for it. No reason it even has to be 'a thing' any more than any other minor factoid about them.

Incest however... Hell no. No matter how anyone tries to explain it away to make it 'okay.' Keep it to subsets of fandoms among those who share the interest, not in actual series.

[sdp]

... Never mind gay, straight or whatever... what's up with the teenage mutant ninja incest in this picture?? This is... ugh. Talking to children about LGBT stuff seems simple compared to explaining why two ADOLESCENT BROTHERS are locking lips.

They,re not biological brothers in this show so it,s fair game. #turtlecest #gogreenmachine

[Metalwolf]

Eh, no politics in my TMNT. The only thing I 'd like to really see is them being asexual, that way there are no cheesy romances and any female characters aren't reduced to love interests.

[Shark_Blade]

... Never mind gay, straight or whatever... what's up with the teenage mutant ninja incest in this picture?? This is... ugh. Talking to children about LGBT stuff seems simple compared to explaining why two ADOLESCENT BROTHERS are locking lips.

Don't go to the creepy sections of deviantart, and that goes for any fandom, you'll be better off.

Didn't the creators drew a nsfw comic with tcest content back then? Mike x Don. They're animals so it's not really such a fuss imo.

I'm concerned if it's human beings like Ana X Elsa. D:

You can see incest in many media nowadays like Game of Thrones and Riverdale. For shock value I reckon.

[IndigoErth]

They're animals
In the same sense that we are. Turtles or not, unlike actual regular animals, they're people.

[drag0nfeathers]

The social justice warriors have already ruined half of the classic comic world for me... by God if they screw with the turtles any more beyond this ridiculous new adaptation by making them gender confused the next mass shooting will be at Nickelodeon Studios when the masses finally snap

[Refractive Reflections]

... Never mind gay, straight or whatever... what's up with the teenage mutant ninja incest in this picture?? This is... ugh. Talking to children about LGBT stuff seems simple compared to explaining why two ADOLESCENT BROTHERS are locking lips.

If they had a friend who we end up catching a vague hint on a rare occasion that the character is part of said "LGBTQ community," fine... go for it. No reason it even has to be 'a thing' any more than any other minor factoid about them.

Incest however... Hell no. No matter how anyone tries to explain it away to make it 'okay.' Keep it to subsets of fandoms among those who share the interest, not in actual series.

Interesting.... if this same discussion was happening 60 some years ago, the same disgust tone would be projected toward homosexual characters. Isn't this all just cultural relativity?

Besides, what else can one expect of the issue of consensual adult incest popping up at the perimeter of mainstream cultural society, time and time again, with society's current logic about permissible consensual adult sexual relations:
https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2003/may/17/weekend7.weekend2
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/01/23/adult-incest-and-the-law/?utm_term=.98203c71ea3e
https://www.thecut.com/2015/01/what-its-like-to-date-your-dad.html
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/mother-says-sex-son-incredible-7712560

[plastroncafe]

That's an awful lot of links for you to just have randomly on hand.

Anything you'd like to share with the rest of the class?

[Candy Kappa]

Can we not do anything else to Appease SJW's .:lol:

Andrew is a SJW?

[neatoman]

Could just shove Lindsey in, not really talk about her sexuality and just say that counts?
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/1/16/Lindsey_girlfriend.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150806183156

[Weapons@theready]

What if the back story between Saki and Yoshi is that they were secret lovers and Yoshi betrayed Saki by hooking up with Tang Shen. Saki then has Yoshi kicked out of the Foot by revealing to the other members that Yoshi was sexually harassing him.

[Shark_Blade]

What if the back story between Saki and Yoshi is that they were secret lovers and Yoshi betrayed Saki by hooking up with Tang Shen. Saki then has Yoshi kicked out of the Foot by revealing to the other members that Yoshi was sexually harassing him.

Oooooh I am all for that boiling tea. I love that fresh new twist.

https://i.imgur.com/Bz3uzS7.gif

[Leonardo_thebest]

https://orig00.deviantart.net/2ade/f/2014/236/2/7/leo_x_raph___yaoi_awe_by_annethewolf123-d7wiqtx.jpg

What do you folks think? Is it time for the latest TMNT show to embrace the growing LGBTQ community? A gay Raphael, lesbian April, maybe a Splinter transitioning to female? Maybe a twist could be that Oroku Saki is actually a post-op... Karai?

And people think I'm a troll. :roll:

April will likely explore her gender, but not her sexuality, even though it's a healthy and important part of life. I'm sure it would raise a few eyebrows if Nick went that route.

[Andrew NDB]

Here's a page from Batgirl. Do you think we should get this kind of stuff with TMNT?

http://www.highlander-community.com/babs.jpg

Those crazy kids these days...

[plastroncafe]

Old man yells at clouds! Andrew is way less fun.

[Sumac]

And people think I'm a troll. :roll:

April will likely explore her gender, but not her sexuality, even though it's a healthy and important part of life. I'm sure it would raise a few eyebrows if Nick went that route.
It's like there can be only one on the forums.
At least Andrew is fun. Which I can't say about you.

Also, part about exploring gender and not sexuality is such bull-dang.
It's vice-versa. Not in the current days of post-truth and insanity, but in general.

[eskater]

This entire forum is just going to be utter bullsh!t for the next month or so, isn't it?

Thanks, Rise...

Oh yeah (flashback to when the PD TMNT came out) :tlol:

[CyberCubed]

Here's a page from Batgirl. Do you think we should get this kind of stuff with TMNT?

http://www.highlander-community.com/babs.jpg

Those crazy kids these days...

I don't get this, is that person not a girl?

[newfan]

Oh yeah (flashback to when the PD TMNT came out) :tlol:

This is a toon for a younger audience, I don't know what people think they are getting beyond possible subtleties.

[neatoman]

Here's a page from Batgirl. Do you think we should get this kind of stuff with TMNT?

http://www.highlander-community.com/babs.jpg

Those crazy kids these days...

No, of course not. Characters who only exist to "represent" something rather than have an impact on the story, are nothing but a pointless distraction. Unless the stuff they "represent" is either part of the story, informs their actions or is a neutral aspect that is barely touched on upon (if at all), it's just going to come across as forced. By all means, have characters who belongs to one of these groups, just make sure it's an actual character and not some virtue signaling distraction.

Just for comparison imagine for a moment that you're watching a movie that's about anything other than, let's say, mining. Now somewhere in the middle of this movie, a miner shows up and starts talking about how dangerous it is to be a miner for five minutes. That would be pointless.

Now let's say the movie is about about mining and the hardships of mining is indeed shown to us rather than told to us, wouldn't that make more sense? Or if the movie still isn't about mining, if this character lost his leg in a mining accident and that drives his actions. Or if you really can't think of a reason for hiim to be a miner, just have him have a background in mining and never make a big deal about it, just have it be known what he does for a living.

I don't get this, is that person not a girl?

Transwoman, biologically male. The weird thing about this page is that she went to a fertility clinic and is mad the doctor misgendered her, which I guess meant he told her biological males can't get pregnant, which is true and something she should know beforehand. This page depicts a pretty forced reason for her to be sad.

[Candy Kappa]

Transwoman, biologically male. The weird thing about this page is that she went to a fertility clinic and is mad the doctor misgendered her, which I guess meant he told her biological males can't get pregnant, which is true and something she should know beforehand. This page depicts a pretty forced reason for her to be sad.

If you actually read the page, she said "we" as in her and her partner.
Jesus ****ing Christ on a pogo stick, you guys...

[TurtleWA]

I understood it as the doctor called she a he and didn’t apologize for the mistake. Also she has a female partner that accompanied her to the doctor to see about options for having a baby. The female partner to get pregnant that is. How far off am I?

[neatoman]

If you actually read the page, she said "we" as in her and her partner.
Jesus ****ing Christ on a pogo stick, you guys...

Fine, whatever.

[JH24]

I wouldn't mind, but it should not be shoehorned in simply for the sake of representation.

It should feel like a part of the story as the series progresses. Like for example one of the turtles slowly realizing he has feelings for Casey instead of April or something. Or vice versa.

[Navin Johnson]

If Andrew is trying to give us a sneak preview about what to anticipate in his next book, I think I'll pass.

[Andrew NDB]

I wouldn't mind, but it should not be shoehorned in simply for the sake of representation.

It should feel like a part of the story as the series progresses. Like for example one of the turtles slowly realizing he has feelings for Casey instead of April or something. Or vice versa.

Well that would probably get the fans off crapping on the RotTMNT designs.

[TurtleWA]

If Andrew is trying to give us a sneak preview about what to anticipate in his next book, I think I'll pass.

Living under or above a laundromat bar could work. Maybe.

[ProphetofGanja]

Living under or above a laundromat bar could work. Maybe.

I gotta say, a laundromat where I could get a drink while my clothes are in the washer or dryer would be so convenient

[CyberCubed]

what is the name of that particular Batgirl comic issue? i want to read the whole thing.

[TurtleWA]

I gotta say, a laundromat where I could get a drink while my clothes are in the washer or dryer would be so convenient

Yeah as long as you don’t get a drink spilled on your freshly cleaned clothes. lol

[IndigoErth]

What if the back story between Saki and Yoshi is that they were secret lovers and Yoshi betrayed Saki by hooking up with Tang Shen. Saki then has Yoshi kicked out of the Foot by revealing to the other members that Yoshi was sexually harassing him.
Well there's an interesting twist. lol

Then the next series after that has Tang Shen cheated on within that triangle and gets revenge on the guys... a little too hard. Flees to NYC and becomes the Turtles' sensei/mom.

[Andrew NDB]

I gotta say, a laundromat where I could get a drink while my clothes are in the washer or dryer would be so convenient

That would be super annoying. A million washers and dryers running, competing with presumably loud music to drown it out? Count me out.

[ProphetofGanja]

That would be super annoying. A million washers and dryers running, competing with presumably loud music to drown it out? Count me out.

I guess it would depend heavily on whether or not the music being played lines up with one's personal preference

[Sumac]

Transwoman, biologically male. The weird thing about this page is that she went to a fertility clinic and is mad the doctor misgendered her, which I guess meant he told her biological males can't get pregnant, which is true and something she should know beforehand. This page depicts a pretty forced reason for her to be sad.
In some parts of the world you can be fined for stating this. And some people hope to push for laws which will make you jailed for saying stuff like this.

Apparently, stating that man can not be a woman and can not become pregnant (as well as using words like "vagina" and "breasts"), is offensive, somehow in the world of "post-truth". Interestingly, somehow it works only for trans"women" and no-one rises stink when someone uses word, like "penis". Makes you think what the true agenda of some of those activists is.

If Orwell knew about what kind of ridiculousness, some people are doing in the name of "Liberalism" and "Freedom", not in the name authoritarian tyranny, he would have been spinning in his grave so fast that you could've built a powerplant over it and light New Youk.

[sdp]

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/browbeat/2016/11/18/watch_stephen_colbert_hit_the_oxford_english_dicti onary_for_ripping_off/screen_shot_20161118_at_12.24.23_pm.png.CROP.thumb nail-small.png

The irony is delicious.

[Utrommaniac]

What if the back story between Saki and Yoshi is that they were secret lovers and Yoshi betrayed Saki by hooking up with Tang Shen.

That...is actually kind of interesting. Hm.

I gotta say, a laundromat where I could get a drink while my clothes are in the washer or dryer would be so convenient

I'm pretty sure that was a setting in the Brental Floss comics...
Still seems like a terrible idea. Doing laundry while drunk sounds like a recipe for disaster.


As for LGBT presence, it probably will happen, just not in a really tumblr-y way. Because that would be pandering. Probably won't be much different than the way that one kid's dads were handled in The Loud House. Just "there" and not really questioned. Nor would it be something to make a big deal over longer than a day.

[Leonardo_thebest]

It's like there can be only one on the forums.
At least Andrew is fun. Which I can't say about you.

Also, part about exploring gender and not sexuality is such bull-dang.
It's vice-versa. Not in the current days of post-truth and insanity, but in general.

Cis bro is a rage machine!
I love when you bait me like this. You say I'm no fun, I say you're pathetic, round and round we go.

It's healthy and natural. The sooner you accept yourself, and everyone else, the better off we'll be.

[Metalwolf]

In some parts of the world you can be fined for stating this. And some people hope to push for laws which will make you jailed for saying stuff like this.

In that same vein, some equate that 'misgendering' with literal violence. So yeah, the real Orwellian stuff is not far off.

[Andrew NDB]

In that same vein, some equate that 'misgendering' with literal violence. So yeah, the real Orwellian stuff is not far off.

I think in Canada you get a fine or a criminal charge by doing so now? This is just what I've seen on FB.

[CyberCubed]

The fact that this stuff is just starting now makes you wonder what social norms will be like in the year 2050. It'll probably be as different than as 1950's lifestyle is to modern times.

[sdp]

Whatever it is you can bet that animal rights and nature won't be in that list for social norms because people are selfish.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Whatever it is you can bet that animal rights and nature won't be in that list for social norms because people are selfish.

But what about people that identify as animals?

#Nonbinary

[Leonardo_thebest]

I think in Canada you get a fine or a criminal charge by doing so now? This is just what I've seen on FB.

I'm a Canadian. AMA.

[Sumac]

Cis bro is a rage machine!
I love when you bait me like this. You say I'm no fun, I say you're pathetic, round and round we go.

It's healthy and natural. The sooner you accept yourself, and everyone else, the better off we'll be.
I am not "cis" - I am normal human.

There is no need to designate me anything else, just so your precious transpeople could feel "no worse".

The whole idea of "cis" assignement is that transpeople feel that if they are assigned some designation, which makes them stand out from normal people, than everyone else should have some designation - a childish logic, but considering how de-attached from reality their whole "ideology", well, it's par for the course for them. Sadly, since modern "liberals" can't differ between "freedom" and "insanity" they gladly lap this bucket of pissshit and play along.

I have long time ago accepted everything about myself. And I don't see it as a ground to demand a unique designation or gender for myself, even I had some reasons to. This whole idea is infantile.

I do accept others, as long as they do not step on toes of other people.

And it's not natural. People who are not comfortable with their sex are not normal. Like people who born without eyes or without arms are not normal. Neither of those should serve as a ground to redefine idea of our species no matter how some crazies desire to.

[sdp]

But what about people that identify as animals?

#Nonbinary

Not familiar with the furry fandom, are you now?

[PApagreg]

Not familiar with the furry fandom, are you now?

They don't really identify as animals, you're thinking of otherkin.

[Leonardo_thebest]

When do I get to remind him it's only a cartoon? It doesn't even look like it will be a good cartoon.
Again, the more young kids learn to not be afraid of who they are, the better adjusted a society we will have.

I hope they push the boundaries, and paint the rainbow. It would be a welcome change.

EDIT: Dude. you're the only one freaking out. You be you, but that you is clearly a cis-bro. That's normal for you, but not the norm.
I can't wait for Donnie to assert they are non-binary, and watch you implode with rage.

[Andrew NDB]

Again, the more young kids learn to not be afraid of who they are

That's kind of the thing, isn't it? Whether on one side of the argument or not.

Should an 11 year-old who can't, by any good measure, even determine their own bedtime or be allowed to do whatever they want... be allowed to decide unequivocally if they were born in the wrong body? Determining all immediate and subsequent action thereto (hormones, hormone blockers, surgery plans)?

Hey, you're 18? Do whatever you want, 100% supportive of that. Until then? Ehhh...

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I can't wait for Donnie to assert they are non-binary, and watch you implode with rage.

I can't wait for you ask us whether the turtles should be depicted non-binary, then call us bigots and phobics when most of us don't agree.

[Leonardo_thebest]

I can't wait for you ask us whether the turtles should be depicted non-binary, then call us bigots and phobics when most of us don't agree.

If you check, I didn't.

[Sumac]

In that same vein, some equate that 'misgendering' with literal violence. So yeah, the real Orwellian stuff is not far off.
Pretty much a thoughtcrime.
And then those people surprised when they are called "snowflakes".
Insults are bad, of course, but equating them with real violence?

It seems some societies move towards idea of making generation of stupid timid complacent "well adjusted" sheep with no identity whatsoever.

If we continue this line of thinking, in the society where personal identity is absolute - every statement might look like an offense, because, virtually any statement about yourself or someone else, might be interpreted as violation of personal freedom / expression.
Say that you are young - you offend old, say that you are white - you offend every non-white, say that you are woman - you offend bunch of narcissistic men...well, guess some things won't change, but still, you've got an idea.

In the end, natural order of things will win, because, people who would be fighting on daily basis who is more deserving to be called woman and why naming part of female biology is a REAL (?) violence against those who never had it, will become an easy prey for people who are not obsessed with this stupidity.

Again, the more young kids learn to not be afraid of who they are, the better adjusted a society we will have.
Or more unstable?

Dude. you're the only one freaking out. You be you, but that you is clearly a cis-bro. That's normal for you, but not the norm.
I can't wait for Donnie to assert they are non-binary, and watch you implode with rage.
I am a normal person. Not "cis" or anything of your ridiculous and offensive language.
And yes, being man who likes to be a man is normal. Being woman who likes to be a woman is normal.
Being a man or a woman who doesn't like to be a man or a woman on a biological level (not due society sexism) is NOT normal. It is genetic defect just like blindness or deafness.

And I won't care if creators of the series will pander to crazies. I have accepted that at this stage of society evolution, people will do everything to get those "good guys / moral superiority" brownies.

[Candy Kappa]

Cis bro is a rage machine!
I love when you bait me like this. You say I'm no fun, I say you're pathetic, round and round we go.

It's healthy and natural. The sooner you accept yourself, and everyone else, the better off we'll be.

Don't bother with Sumac, he's anti-science.

[Leonardo_thebest]

Don't bother with Sumac, he's anti-science.

Love your new avatar BTW.

Why haven't the mods dealt with this guy? He's rude as hell. People get fired these days for less.
It feels like he's trying to get me to fight with him, every post.

[Candy Kappa]

Thanks :D

I don't think mods would do anything, mostly cause we're alone. But in the end anything about gender or sexuality that isn't cisgender or heterosexuality will just be jutted down as "politics" (or "the gay agenda"), threads will just be shut down but no other real reprecussions on behavior.

I just roll my eyes at the worst parts, it's basically flat-earthers of biology and shouldn't be rewarded the attention cause they won't learn, either by ignorance or don't bother and just want to stir ****.

[Sumac]

Don't bother with Sumac, he's anti-science.
Science? What kind of "science" will seriously argue that man is a woman or vice-versa?
Probably the same "science" that tells that there is no harm from smoking. Or that people originated from aliens.

I do not deny existence of people who has genetic abnormalities, which make them think that they are "man in a woman's body" or vice-versa.

However, why it should be treated like something normal (as in not being harmful to people) and why views upon human species should be remade according to the tiny percent of mutations - is anyone's question.
We are not consider blindness as a normal state of human being, just because some people born blind.

Also, comparing me with flat-earthers. LOL.

Well, whatever makes you sleep better at night. Believing your own (?) lie is a way to deal with harsh reality where people don't accept you and people like you. Or maybe a way to make you feel better compared to those horrible "immoral" people who don't want to accept your views. Afterall, who will make yourself feel great if not for yourself?

It's much easier to believe that they don't like you because you are special and right and not because you are present yourself as a tool with nonsense beliefs.

Why haven't the mods dealt with this guy? He's rude as hell. People get fired these days for less.
It feels like he's trying to get me to fight with him, every post.
Because, this forum does not pander to the fragile (faux-)progressive trolls like you and, gladly, is not your personal hugbox.
Go cry somewhere on Tumblr how people commit "real" violence against you by disagreeing with your lie and insanity.

[neatoman]

I'm feeling a bit responsible for some of the ugliness.

I wasn't advocating any disrespect, nor did I say you should remind people of unpleasant facts they (should) already know about. I just misread the context of a comic book page and thought the conflict seemed forced.

To be clear here, don't remind transwomen that they're biological males because they already know that, same goes for reminding for reminding transmen about being biological females. And don't refer to anyone as a man or woman if they told you not to.

This is some pretty basic etiquette in respect.

[Leonardo_thebest]

Fragile is sending thirty plus reports to mods when the topic on a TMNT forum is offending your sensibilities. That's not cis, you're right, it's cowardice. I'm happy to call you that instead if you like.
The game, if I have it right, is for you to pressure me into saying something to get me banned, am I right? You're taking little jabs to protect the one place left where you still feel safe, right? And somehow., I'm fragile?
You're being rude, and ignorant. It may not have been mentioned before, or maybe you don't know how to properly human, but this topic's not up for debate. We could talk chromosomes, but you wouldn't understand, and that my friend is the irony.


I'm feeling a bit responsible for some of the ugliness.

I wasn't advocating any disrespect, nor did I say you should remind people of unpleasant facts they (should) already know about. I just misread the context of a comic book page and thought the conflict seemed forced.
To be clear here, don't remind transwomen that they're biological males because they already know that, same goes for reminding for reminding transmen about being biological females. And don't refer to anyone as a man or woman if they told you not to.

This is some pretty basic etiquette in respect.

Thanks for speaking up. It's toxic as hell in here with this guy.

[Sumac]

Fragile is sending thirty plus reports to mods when the topic on a TMNT forum is offending your sensibilities. That's not cis, you're right, it's cowardice. I'm happy to call you that from now on instead if you like.
I am not sending any reports about you, though probably I should.

The game, if I have it right, is for you to pressure me into saying something to get me banned, am I right? You're taking little jabs to protect the one place left where you still feel safe, right? And somehow., I'm fragile?

You're being rude, and ignorant. It may not have been mentioned before, or maybe you don't know how to properly human, but this topic's not up for debate. We could talk chromosomes, but you wouldn't understand, and that my friend is the irony.
Sorry, my dear, but you need to lay off those mushrooms.

First, I am not trying to bait you into anything, simply because, I know your species well enough and that sooner or later you will play yourself into being banned.

Second, your assumptions are hilariously of the mark. This passage about "the only place where I feel safe" is hilariously baity.
It's not the place where I feel safe, since I feel safe everywhere in the Internet, because I am not afraid of crazies and fools hiding behind false names. Nor I am protecting this place, because this place don't need protection from your illness. There are plenty of adequate people.
All I do is just treating little troll as I should. That is all.

Also, "how to properly human"...:roll:
Well, I dunno, but you certainly don't give me impression of the "proper human" who knows "how to properly human".

And when someone says "it's not up to debate" it's a sure sign of the scared little man, who is afraid that his small fragile ego will be hurt. Particularly by "evil" women who do not want to accept some psychos and fetishists as their own.

[Leonardo_thebest]

Reading comprehension is pretty low in these here parts. He complained about everything but the actual insult.

Look, I don't care about your politics, but the trolling and instigating should stop. Let's both agree to ignore the other.

[LilithMV]

Arguing against LGBTQ using the "normal" card, listen up; What is normal is just what we perceive as is. I mean I'ts normal to be a lesbian, to me. Because I am one.

Anyway, back to not caring.

[plastroncafe]

Thanks :D

I don't think mods would do anything, mostly cause we're alone. But in the end anything about gender or sexuality that isn't cisgender or heterosexuality will just be jutted down as "politics" (or "the gay agenda"), threads will just be shut down but no other real reprecussions on behavior.

I just roll my eyes at the worst parts, it's basically flat-earthers of biology and shouldn't be rewarded the attention cause they won't learn, either by ignorance or don't bother and just want to stir ****.

Yup, pretty much hitting the nail on the head.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Reading comprehension is pretty low in these here parts.

Yeah, it always strikes me how one particular user doesn't respond to the arguements presented in a civilized manner and instead prefers to engage in ad hominens and straw mans.

the trolling and instigating should stop.

Yeah, wouldn't that be nice, Leonardo_thebest?