New Star Wars Films to be written and produced by the creators of Game of Thrones

[TigerClaw]

Lucasfilm just officially announced that the creators and the Game of Thrones TV series are gonna be writing and producing a new series of Star Wars films. These new films will not be connected to the current trilogy or the new trilogy by Rian Johnson.
http://www.starwars.com/news/game-of-thrones-creators-david-benioff-and-d-b-weiss-to-write-and-produce-a-new-series-of-star-wars-films

[CyberCubed]

Good. New Star Wars movies every year till 2030. What a time to be alive.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Holy crap.

You guys are gonna be SICK of Star Wars movies in another decade. :tlol:

[CyberCubed]

What's weird to me is how much the general public says things like, "How can they make another Star Wars movie? What is there left to tell?"

Yet there's been like 30+ years of Star Wars comic books and novels that have told countless stories over the last 3 decades, then stuff like the Star Wars Clone Wars cartoon that has 100+ episodes.

It's like a lot of people have no idea how big the Star Wars universe actually is.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

What's weird to me is how much the general public says things like, "How can they make another Star Wars movie? What is there left to tell?"

Yet there's been like 30+ years of Star Wars comic books and novels that have told countless stories over the last 3 decades, then stuff like the Star Wars Clone Wars cartoon that has 100+ episodes.

It's like a lot of people have no idea how big the Star Wars universe actually is.

I started in on the EU novels just this week... reading the first book of the Thrawne trilogy. So far, I'm sucked in! :tgrin:

Not interested in Disney's take on Star Wars, though. Episode VII and Rogue One both bored me, and Episode VIII sounds even more boring/frustrating to me.

I'll stick to prose.

[Andrew NDB]

I'll stick to prose.

Reminds me of an old thread...

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=55900

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Reminds me of an old thread...

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=55900

I completely forgot about that!

And unfortunately, now I DO get that reference. Erk.

[Autbot_Benz]

While I like the new stuff and please excuse my Vegita-San but kinda getting sick of the whole Women are strong and in charge while men are dumb hotshots messing everything up like Last Jedi Kinda had.

[Shark_Blade]

I expect many gratuitous rape and incestual sex scenes, in a galaxy far, far away.

But more Star Wars, yay. :D

[CyberCubed]

I expect many gratuitous rape and incestual sex scenes, in a galaxy far, far away.

I doubt Disney would allow any of that.

[Vegita-San]

Can i put in my own complaining hashtag before some other idiot does it?

it just seems like these lucasfilm people are jumping on all the latest trends.

first they had the lego people try to write a movie. Now Game of Thrones People. i'm waiting for the This Is Us writers to get a star wars movie.

[dl316bh]

Holy crap.

You guys are gonna be SICK of Star Wars movies in another decade. :tlol:
I honestly wonder if it's even going to take that long. You can only really push a franchise on a schedule like this for so long before people lose interest or it stops feeling special. There are exceptions, but franchises typically shed audience and take over time anyway. Even Star Wars isn't immune to that, historically.

Yet there's been like 30+ years of Star Wars comic books and novels that have told countless stories over the last 3 decades, then stuff like the Star Wars Clone Wars cartoon that has 100+ episodes.

It's like a lot of people have no idea how big the Star Wars universe actually is.
Lets be real here; the people who read the books and especially the comics were/are the hardcore fans, which may be sizable compared to other franchises but far from equals the audience of any given Star Wars film. A majority of the people who saw the original trilogy back in the day probably never picked up a single EU novel and came back to the films out of nostalgia, memories and attachment to those films. I've read plenty of the novels and comics, but if you ask most people they wouldn't know Mara Jade, Jacen Solo or Cade Skywalker from adam. You can also do more with that kind of media, because it's divorced of the expectations, budget restrictions and need to worry about drawing in the general population.

[Shark_Blade]

Disney bought the franchise pretty expensive, so let them churn out the milk cow to their heart content.

And the fans are happy, so win-win. Those are not, just steer away. Don't be a party pooper.

Sick of Star Wars? Please. How many James Bond films are there now? 24. Are people tired of it? Nope. ;):tcool:

[Krutch]

So long as they're quality films, I'm golden.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, I mean... things were in a special place after the OT.

20 years of wondering, hoping "Will we one day get Episodes I-III???" then we got the (we'll call it a "mixed bag") wish fulfillment of that and it was a global event. 30 years of wondering, hoping "Will we one day get Episodes VII-IX... with Luke, Leia, and Han back??" and often times being flat out told "No"... the Disney sale happens and we actually get it and it was another global event. Though it turns out to be super polarizing, everyone we'd been waiting to see killed off or written out in unpleasing fashions.

There's nothing really exciting left to hope for or see. We got that prequel trilogy already. Against all odds, we got to see that one more Luke, Leia, and Han adventure (sort of). That's done now. Rey and Finn and Poe didn't connect with anyone like Luke, Leia, and Han did 30 years ago... nobody is going to be chomping at the bit to see what they're up to in any Episode X. And now we get a random Star Wars movie every year with no more waiting. We're getting the Han Solo origin nobody asked for and Boba Fett: The Movie is being revved up again. After that I'm certain if those movies even do middling box office, the MO will continue to be "Mine the OT!"

Pretty much we'll be hitting critical mass at Episode IX, which is only held up by (vain, probably) hopes that it will right the course on everything that didn't work or went nowhere in VII and VIII and redeem the trilogy. After that? *sigh* Who even cares? The magic is gone.

[Vegita-San]

There's nothing really exciting left to hope for or see.

and that's the problem. all the hope and love that the other trilogy built up is trashed by the ST. so who cares what happens now?

[Shark_Blade]

The Last Jedi rakes in $1.3 billions (budget was $200m), not including future home media releases. Clearly the general public does care. ;)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/02/04/box-office-star-wars-the-last-jedi-passes-1-32b-while-coco-tops-700m/amp/

[Andrew NDB]

and that's the problem. all the hope and love that the other trilogy built up is trashed by the ST. so who cares what happens now?

I guess all these people out there (loudly) hoping for "Knights of the Old Republic" movies that will never happen from the video games and old EU.

I'd be lying if I said I didn't have some moderate interest in seeing Yoda: The Movie while we still have Frank Oz, or Obi-Wan: The Lost Years with Ewan... but it's hardly some burning desire. I could not see those movies and be just fine.

[Andrew NDB]

The Last Jedi rakes in $1.3 billions (budget was $200m), not including future home media releases. Clearly the general public does care. ;)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/02/04/box-office-star-wars-the-last-jedi-passes-1-32b-while-coco-tops-700m/amp/

Of course people cared about "The Last Jedi." It's "The Big Luke Skywalker Return" movie. What does IX have going for it, beyond some lingering battered wife syndrome that's telling us the next one will be better? What is there actually to be excited for, this time out? "Maybe we'll get to see Luke's Force Ghost, if we're lucky!"?

[dl316bh]

Sick of Star Wars? Please. How many James Bond films are there now? 24. Are people tired of it? Nope. ;):tcool:
People have been tired of Bond several times in history. The franchise had to reinvent itself a couple times with new actors. Craig Bond in particular was the right approach at a time the franchise really needed it, which really brought it back to heights of popularity (even here in the US, where I remember people just kind of rolling their eyes at the whole thing by the tail end of the Brosnan era).

Bond also hasn't thrown a film a year at people since Moore, which is also considered one of the weakest Bond eras.

I guess all these people out there (loudly) hoping for "Knights of the Old Republic" movies that will never happen from the video games and old EU.
I still don't get why they didn't at least keep the KOTOR games in continuity. They're never touching that timeframe in film. Probably not in other media either (they seem hesitant to branch too far out of OT territory). It was probably the most inoffense, continuity-wise, of the old EU.

Who even cares? The magic is gone.
I suspect more people are going to be feeling this way over time. It's hard for something to feel special or magical when it's constantly happening.

[The Deadman]

Disney bought the franchise pretty expensive, so let them churn out the milk cow to their heart content.

And the fans are happy, so win-win. Those are not, just steer away. Don't be a party pooper.

Sick of Star Wars? Please. How many James Bond films are there now? 24. Are people tired of it? Nope. ;):tcool:

And a majority of those Bond films were released in the 60s and 70s, where nobody really cared how many films were pumped out at a time. Since the year 2000, there's only been 5 Bond films compared to the 7 Star Wars films currently, including the Clone Wars animated film. But by all means, tell people what to think about films again.

[Vegita-San]

I'd be lying if I said I didn't have some moderate interest in seeing Yoda: The Movie while we still have Frank Oz, or Obi-Wan: The Lost Years with Ewan... but it's hardly some burning desire. I could not see those movies and be just fine.

the same.

although with the ineptness that kathleen kennedy led lucasfilm has shown so far, I have NO hope that those will be good movies.

and again, what would be the point? all the hope of luke being a savior would trash the legacy of obi wan kenobi and his sojourn to tattooine too.

[sdp]

I can't believe I'm I live in a world where Star Wars is getting tons of new content and I'm not happy with it. It's rather depressing, I wished and wished that we would eventually get a sequel trilogy and now we have that and more and as much as I want to love it I just can't.


I doubt Disney would allow any of that.

Disney banned Slave Leia, no more official art or Star Wars ever using that iconic costume not to mention no more Toys or figures of it ever again.

You can only really push a franchise on a schedule like this for so long before people lose interest or it stops feeling special.

This, the magic is gone by having them release a new movie every year and it'll get to that point for most people.

Now if the magic is gone it's ok if the movies were amazing, but that's also where Disney has let us down with the exception of a few who like the same old stuff.

Disney bought the franchise pretty expensive, so let them churn out the milk cow to their heart content.

And the fans are happy, so win-win. Those are not, just steer away. Don't be a party pooper.

Sick of Star Wars? Please. How many James Bond films are there now? 24. Are people tired of it? Nope. ;):tcool:

At the current schedule there's going to be 30 SW films before 30 James Bond movies, we already have 10 movies and that's not counting Solo. 007 movies are released every 3 years or more, when they come out they're special.

The franchise was actually a bargain, Lucas just wanted out, I believe they made all their money back from licensing deals after The Force Awakens.

Fans are not happy, look at the backlash after a year of Ep.7 and the 50/50 divide between fans of Ep.8. Just because we didn't like it we're not fans?

[ProactiveMan]

That's how it works now, announce first, ask questions later.

2045: Untitled Star Wars project by yet to be identified creators of yet to be created popular series or movie property.
2046: Consumption of Earth by sun

[Shark_Blade]

Of course people cared about "The Last Jedi." It's "The Big Luke Skywalker Return" movie. What does IX have going for it, beyond some lingering battered wife syndrome that's telling us the next one will be better? What is there actually to be excited for, this time out? "Maybe we'll get to see Luke's Force Ghost, if we're lucky!"?
Probably. Many questions remain unanswered for now:

- Will Luke return in ghost form?
- How they gonna handle Carrie Fisher's real life death into the plot?
- What is Rey's fate? Her true lineage/parents?
- Will Ben turn to the good side?
- Will Finn and Poe finally be a canon gay couple?

Also, surely many are curious on how they're gonna conclude this trilogy, what with JJ Abrams making a return as director.

People have been tired of Bond several times in history. The franchise had to reinvent itself a couple times with new actors. Craig Bond in particular was the right approach at a time the franchise really needed it, which really brought it back to heights of popularity (even here in the US, where I remember people just kind of rolling their eyes at the whole thing by the tail end of the Brosnan era).

Bond also hasn't thrown a film a year at people since Moore, which is also considered one of the weakest Bond eras.


I still don't get why they didn't at least keep the KOTOR games in continuity. They're never touching that timeframe in film. Probably not in other media either (they seem hesitant to branch too far out of OT territory). It was probably the most inoffense, continuity-wise, of the old EU.


I suspect more people are going to be feeling this way over time. It's hard for something to feel special or magical when it's constantly happening.
Agree about Craig Bond, hence they can change up the cast or change focus of the Star Wars characters throughout the timeline. I'm fine with that.

And a majority of those Bond films were released in the 60s and 70s, where nobody really cared how many films were pumped out at a time. Since the year 2000, there's only been 5 Bond films compared to the 7 Star Wars films currently, including the Clone Wars animated film. But by all means, tell people what to think about films again.

We're in a different era now where everything is fast streaming like Netflix and people want things immediately. I see no problem with the that, give people what they want because eventually they'll let it lay for a few years until picking it up again.

So for now keep sticking it into the burner while it's still hot. Disney believes in that strategy and so do I. Again, they spent lucratively for this franchise so it's only fair they're investing in it for their returns.

[sdp]

Probably. Many questions remain unanswered for now:

- Will Luke return in ghost form?
- How they gonna handle Carrie Fisher's real life death into the plot?
- What is Rey's fate? Her true lineage/parents?
- Will Ben turn to the good side?
- Will Finn and Poe finally be a canon gay couple?

I can answer most of them:

- Yes
- A line about how her heroism helped the rebellion and her sacrifice puts them in a position to win
- She has no lineage, they already revealed and doubled down on it
- Either way it's a lose/lose, if he does it's a complete remake of the OT, if he doesn't then he was just a chump villain who somehow killed Solo/Luke
-Not gonna happen, if anything it'll be Finn/Rey or Finn/Asian girl

[Andrew NDB]

I still don't get why they didn't at least keep the KOTOR games in continuity. They're never touching that timeframe in film.

Probably because they figure "But we MIGHT!" Maybe that's what those Game of Thrones writers are working on for their multi-film thing... building some massive Old Republic storyline. I can see the appeal of that.

[dl316bh]

Probably because they figure "But we MIGHT!" Maybe that's what those Game of Thrones writers are working on for their multi-film thing... building some massive Old Republic storyline. I can see the appeal of that.
That I could actually see myself getting interested in. At least we'd be out of the Skywalker years. I'm skeptical they'd actually do it, though, but we also don't know a lick of what these guys will be doing, either, so it's not outside the realm of possibility.

Agree about Craig Bond, hence they can change up the cast or change focus of the Star Wars characters throughout the timeline. I'm fine with that.
That's all fine, well and good, but the question is going to be whether general audiences are down for the series past a certain point, especially if they don't pull back. At what point do they become numb to it and stop turning up, especially as the entire thing feels less special? Especially if the films continue to be divisive or - in the likely case of Solo - bad? Especially if it's mostly just what we expect? We don't know yet, but there's a chance we won't like the answer.

[Andrew NDB]

The trilogy is dead:

https://deadline.com/2019/10/star-wars-setback-game-of-thrones-duo-david-benioff-d-b-weiss-exit-trilogy-1202771184/

[drgon78]

Finally some good news.

[CyberCubed]

Wow, I'm surprised, it seems all these planned movies are being canceled. This trilogy is dead, Rian Johnsons trilogy seems iffy (and will probably be dead), and uh...what else is there? All those rumors of an Obi-wan, Yoda, Boba-Fett, etc solo movies are all dead too, especially with Obi-wan getting a short TV series instead.

I think this is for the best. Stop flooding the market with Star Wars spinoffs, instead make TV shows.

[Andrew NDB]

You guys realize, though... if Disney is set on a new trilogy (and they are) and had two trilogies on the table -- Johnson's and the GoT guys' -- and now axed the GoT guys' trilogy... that kind of narrows things down, doesn't it?

Yikes.