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TigerClaw
02-21-2018, 04:08 PM
Looks like Universal Pictures has set Jurassic World 3 to be released on June 11 2021.
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/jurassic_park/jurassic-world-3-officially-announced-universal-sets-a-prime-2021-release-date-a158061
https://twitter.com/JurassicWorld/status/966388308812034048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.comicbookmovie.com%2Fsci-fi%2Fjurassic_park%2Fjurassic-world-3-officially-announced-universal-sets-a-prime-2021-release-date-a158061
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWlM2-0VQAAPXjh.jpg:small
CyberCubed
02-21-2018, 04:14 PM
"2021"
Even just thinking about that year makes me seasick. God, I feel like time is moving too fast or we're in the future now or something. 2021 sounds like the year of a sci-fi movie.
Well the movie is still almost 3 and a half years away, so its not like its already 2021.
3 years between each sequel, now that used to be the Star Wars way but instead we now have Universal treating its property with more respect making each sequel feel more of an event than Star Wars films which we can now get a new one very 6 months
Whats even funnier is this will be the defacto thread we use for when JW3 actually comes out and we post our opinions on it.
NinjaPug
02-21-2018, 06:38 PM
3 years between each sequel, now that used to be the Star Wars way but instead we now have Universal treating its property with more respect making each sequel feel more of an event than Star Wars films which we can now get a new one very 6 months.
At least Lucasfilm was smart enough to get rid of Trevorrow.
Emily Carmichael will be directing. Not familiar with her at all but I like that for the JW trilogy Universal has gone for smaller unknown directors. First Trevorrow, then Bayona and now her.
At least Lucasfilm was smart enough to get rid of Trevorrow.
I know I'm in the minority but I liked his JW, especially when compared to JJ's The Force Awakens. JW felt more of a homage to me while TFA was just a rip off. I know that's an "hot take" but I stand by it. I would've liked Ep IX with Trevorrow and I think he could've done something more exciting with it than JJ will.
At the end of the day none of the JP sequels have been excellent but they're all good dino action for me.
The Deadman
02-27-2018, 11:45 AM
Emily Carmichael will be directing. Not familiar with her at all but I like that for the JW trilogy Universal has gone for smaller unknown directors. First Trevorrow, then Bayona and now her.
She's co-writing, not directing.
NinjaPug
03-30-2018, 01:35 PM
Oh good, Universal and Spielberg just said "**** it, audiences will watch this no matter who we hire to direct it" and hired Trevorrow again.
http://variety.com/2018/film/news/colin-trevorrow-jurassic-world-3-1202740351/
The Deadman
04-18-2018, 04:38 PM
Jurassic World 3 will be a 'science thriller,' says Colin Trevorrow
http://ew.com/movies/2018/04/18/jurassic-world-3-colin-trevorrow/
Refractive Reflections
10-06-2018, 05:42 AM
Interesting fan speculation about what to expect for the movie:
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Colin Trevorrow states that he's interested in having this genetic power going "open source" (as seen in the ending of Jurassic World 2), ushering in the term "Jurassic World".
A great in-depth video about possible themes (i.e. most notably, control, in relationships and man vs. animals/nature) for the final movie in this second trilogy:
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If any of you are really interested in the whole Jurassic Park universe, character backstories, a cancelled cartoon series (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrEmifqIEJQ), comparison between the novel vs. first two movies, deleted scenes, and speculation (i.e. what if Steven Spielberg directed JP 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP6QjScbQng), what if JP was a rated R movie (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkXnuLgsL0s), what happened to Isla Sorna (Site B) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6VBvWd68p0), how did InGen get Mosasurus DNA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SdhHjIJFLw), what would Michael Crichton think of Jurassic World (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MAzKPAS7N8)), there's a YouTuber who goes deep into it (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxGXULOxa0izkYfumRLHt0w/videos) who also made the above two videos.
neatoman
10-06-2018, 06:14 AM
"2021"
Even just thinking about that year makes me seasick. God, I feel like time is moving too fast or we're in the future now or something. 2021 sounds like the year of a sci-fi movie.
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ZariusTwo
06-04-2019, 11:07 AM
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Raph's Girl
06-04-2019, 03:11 PM
D'awww... how sweet. Blue's getting her own show. :D
Andrew NDB
06-04-2019, 05:46 PM
Original cast from Jurassic Park expected to return:
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/jurassic_park/bryce-dallas-howard-seemingly-suggests-that-original-jurassic-park-cast-may-return-in-jurassic-world-3-a168738
Why did the Camp Cretaceous thread get merged here? That's a cartoon unrelated to JW 3.
Original cast from Jurassic Park expected to return:
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/jurassic_park/bryce-dallas-howard-seemingly-suggests-that-original-jurassic-park-cast-may-return-in-jurassic-world-3-a168738
Won't believe it until it's confirmed, how do we know it's not just Bryce howard attention hogging? Something about the way she says it makes me feel like she's not hinting but just wanting some attention and it worked.
If it does happen I'd be soooo happy.
Jester
06-05-2019, 11:08 PM
That's my bad. I thought camp cretaceous was a subtitle for the new film and not a Netflix series...and sadly there is no un-merge option.
Voltron
06-06-2019, 05:58 AM
Hahahaha. Have we reached the point in the franchise where the kids and dinosaurs are friends now? The movies will slowly change into talking dinosaurs navigating the intricacies and drama of Jurassic adolescence. :lol:
ProactiveMan
06-06-2019, 08:30 PM
Hahahaha. Have we reached the point in the franchise where the kids and dinosaurs are friends now? The movies will slowly change into talking dinosaurs navigating the intricacies and drama of Jurassic adolescence. :lol:
Yeah right?! How did we end up here?
Hahahaha. Have we reached the point in the franchise where the kids and dinosaurs are friends now? The movies will slowly change into talking dinosaurs navigating the intricacies and drama of Jurassic adolescence. :lol:
While this seems mostly an ignorant post on the franchise that isn't funny or relevant, the ending of Fallen Kingdom does bring up the problematic of dinosaurs in the main land. Trevorrow said he's aware of this and he'll be handling it well and we won't see something like a modern dinotopia or the like and that it'll be in tone with the other jurassic movies. But I'll be skeptical until I see the trailer.
Still, plenty of dinosaur action to be excited for the next few years until Jurassic Park 6.
snake
06-06-2019, 10:47 PM
I legitimately forgot about the existence of Fallen Kingdom until a couple weeks ago when someone brought it up, so there's that.
ProactiveMan
06-07-2019, 12:28 AM
It's one of the dumbest movies I've ever seen. I hope whoever wrote the scrip has done something about the gas leak in their office.
Andrew NDB
06-07-2019, 02:31 AM
That's my bad. I thought camp cretaceous was a subtitle for the new film and not a Netflix series...and sadly there is no un-merge option.
See? Overmodding! This is what I've been talking about for years.;)
Jester
06-07-2019, 08:07 AM
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The Deadman
07-29-2019, 06:40 AM
Jurassic World 3 Will Celebrate Entire Jurassic Franchise, May Not Be Final Sequel
https://movieweb.com/jurassic-world-3-franchise-celebration-original-cast-returning/
Leofan26
07-29-2019, 11:31 AM
Jurassic World 3 Will Celebrate Entire Jurassic Franchise, May Not Be Final Sequel
https://movieweb.com/jurassic-world-3-franchise-celebration-original-cast-returning/
If all the characters from the past films returned to celebrate it in this film that'd be a dream come true for the fandom.
oldmanwinters
07-29-2019, 11:50 AM
New Trilogy...
Jurassic UNIVERSE
:tlol:
Andrew NDB
07-29-2019, 12:16 PM
Jurassic World 3 Will Celebrate Entire Jurassic Franchise, May Not Be Final Sequel
https://movieweb.com/jurassic-world-3-franchise-celebration-original-cast-returning/
If all the characters from the past films returned to celebrate it in this film that'd be a dream come true for the fandom.
That's what what's her name already alluded to months back. If they're saying that now, this sure might cinch it.
Andrew NDB
09-16-2019, 01:32 PM
So they've put out a short film called "Battle at Big Rock," sort of a Jurassic World 2.5.
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Pretty cool, won't it for a while though, saving it for a later time. Hope it was awesome. There was also a shorter 4 minute prequel to Fallen Kingdom in VR that was pretty cool.
In other news it's basically confirmed ellie/grant/malcolm are all returning for JW3, it's meant to be a "good bye" to the films and yet not a final movie since they also imply it'll continue.
Lego Jurassic World will have a series, and there are already 3 22 minute shorts which were released and also a real non lego JW show for netflix coming. It's a good time to be a jurassic fan.
Autbot_Benz
09-25-2019, 12:08 AM
http://collider.com/jurassic-world-3-laura-dern-sam-neill-jeff-goldblum/?utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter
Colin Trevorrow has found a way to bring back the original cast of Jurassic Park, as the director announced that Laura Dern, Sam Neill and Jeff Goldblum are set to reprise their iconic roles in Jurassic World 3.
ranger_scout
09-25-2019, 01:49 PM
Goldblum and Dern originally fell in love while making the original. Even though they broke up a few years later, it must’ve been mutual since they don’t mind working together again. It reminds me of when Helena Bonham Carter worked with Kenneth Branagh again in 2015's Cinderella despite their split from several years ago after they began a relationship while doing Frankenstein.
The Deadman
11-07-2019, 01:33 PM
‘Jurassic World 3’ Bringing Back Justice Smith, Daniella Pineda
https://collider.com/jurassic-world-3-justice-smith-daniella-pineda-return/?utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter
‘Jurassic World 3’ Bringing Back Justice Smith, Daniella Pineda
https://collider.com/jurassic-world-3-justice-smith-daniella-pineda-return/?utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter
Sam Neil's Grant will die off-camera and Laura Dern will heroically cover everyone's escape by driving a truck into an oncoming herd of dinos. Jeff Goldblum's character will sit there, unmoving in a chair laughing nonsensically the whole time, while Justin Smith runs around screaming Pineda's character name across the film. Pineda will mull around looking pretty to take us through the new Park adventure, but we won't ever learn anything relevant about her. I could explain Pratt and Howard's roles, but I don't want to spoil his death from a high bridge or her seemingly flying through the underwater ocean after being pulled out of a vessel destroyed by a water dinosaur.
JP6 in a nutshell.
Andrew NDB
11-07-2019, 03:01 PM
Sam Neil's Grant will die off-camera and Laura Dern will heroically cover everyone's escape by driving a truck into an oncoming herd of dinos. Jeff Goldblum's character will sit there, unmoving in a chair laughing nonsensically the whole time, while Justin Smith runs around screaming Pineda's character name across the film. Pineda will mull around looking pretty to take us through the new Park adventure, but we won't ever learn anything relevant about her. I could explain Pratt and Howard's roles, but I don't want to spoil his death from a high bridge or her seemingly flying through the underwater ocean after being pulled out of a vessel destroyed by a water dinosaur.
JP6 in a nutshell.
No, Goldblum will talk about how all of this is all the fault of white males since the beginning of the series and repeatedly apologize for it to everybody who will listen. And probably will undergo a sex change halfway through.
Except that's not true and nothing indicates this will be ruined by progressive stuff, them two returning are not my favorite pics, Daniella pineda should've died in Fallen Kingdom and Justice Smith's humor doesn't belong in Jurassic Park, but I'm ok with them returning. If it really is another "end of a story" as they're promoting it they better bring back someone from The Lost World and the Kirby's from JP///.
Andrew NDB
11-10-2019, 12:18 AM
I don't know why they don't bring back the now-grown kids from JP 1 and 2.
frank_one
11-10-2019, 04:39 AM
I've only seen the first Jurassic World and it sucks so much I doubt I will ever bother to see the second and the third.
Andrew NDB
11-10-2019, 05:36 AM
The movies really surrendered all they had to say with Lost World. Which apparently we're supposed to hate now. There has been nothing new since.
And let's stop calling the new one Jurassic World 3. It's clearly Jurassic Park 6.
I've only seen the first Jurassic World and it sucks so much I doubt I will ever bother to see the second and the third.
I actually thought Jurassic World was the best movie since the first one to be honest. It was a classic Dinosaur romp, which is about all you can ask from these movies.
The next one I thought was fun all the way until around the mansion stuff took place. Like the other JP movies, there's something more fascinating about seeing people in Dinosaur territory than seeing Dinosaur's in people territory.
oldmanwinters
11-10-2019, 08:33 PM
I don't know why they don't bring back the now-grown kids from JP 1 and 2.
One of the IDW comic arcs puts focus on grown up Lex and Tim.
http://jurassic-pedia.com/idw-comics-jurassic-park-redemption/
I don't know why they don't bring back the now-grown kids from JP 1 and 2.
I would love to the Dr. Hammond's grandkids or Ian's daughter. It'd make sense for Tim and Lex to have wanted to continue somehow the legacy of their grandfather and Kelly Malcolm since her dad is in both FK and now here. I'm guessing they'll all be glorified cameos so why not them? Most likely their opinions on dinosaurs on the mainland and that's it.
One of the IDW comic arcs puts focus on grown up Lex and Tim.
http://jurassic-pedia.com/idw-comics-jurassic-park-redemption/
Too bad that story was crap :(
It starts off well but man does it get weird, and generally horrible.
The movies really surrendered all they had to say with Lost World. Which apparently we're supposed to hate now. There has been nothing new since.
And let's stop calling the new one Jurassic World 3. It's clearly Jurassic Park 6.
It's being called JP6 right now but the Jurassic World branding is too strong, it'll be JW: Subtitle when it releases.
In a way this movie having dinosaurs in the mainland as something normal is doing something new with the franchise even if I personally prefer the island setting but whatever.
Andrew NDB
02-21-2020, 03:17 PM
Pratt compares this one to how Avengers Endgame brought "everyone together," and reconfirming how it has everyone from all of the movies again:
https://www.darkhorizons.com/pratt-talks-third-jurassic-world-shoot/
CyberCubed
02-21-2020, 03:21 PM
Hopefully it’s not just brief scenes or cameos like Jeff Goldblum was in the second. Laura Dern looks very good for someone who is now 30 years older than she was in 1993
Andrew NDB
02-21-2020, 04:09 PM
Hopefully it’s not just brief scenes or cameos like Jeff Goldblum was in the second.
Yeah, his whole part was in the trailer.
Definitely excited and glad for more continuity connections. I've really enjoyed the last two flicks, although it was less fun once they got to the mansion in part 2. Always loved Dr. Grant.
CyberCubed
02-21-2020, 06:42 PM
Also when he says we're bringing "everyone back" I hope he doesn't mean, everyone. All we really need is the original 3 from Jurassic Park 1, the 3 everyone loves and remembers.
Not Jeff's black daughter from Lost World (when I was a kid I couldn't understand why he had a black daughter, remember this is back in 1997 or whatever it was, lol forced diversity in 1997 of all times), or the couple from Jurassic Park III which really aren't worth revisiting.
Just Sam, Laura Dern, and Jeff.
Andrew NDB
02-21-2020, 06:48 PM
You wouldn't want to see William H. Macy back?
You wouldn't want to see William H. Macy back?
The should clone Richard Attenborough for this movie. It would be fitting.
:o
What? -shrugs-
We have confirmed Dr. Grant, Dr. Sattler, Dr. Malcolm in major roles, so not just cameos, they have a big part in the movie. We also have confirmed the two new characters from Fallen Kingdom and two supporting characters from JW. Sadly no one from TLW or JP/// have been confirmed.
And yes we do need those characters back, besides throwaway lines as to why they don't go to Sorna, we haven't gotten any real references to the previous sequels despite Colin Trevorrow stating they're 100% canon. Yes, I do want to see Kelly and the Kirby's again even if just a brief cameo.
As far as the leaked plot for JW3: Ellie finds out about how some Dinosaur poachers kidnapped the cloned girl from Fallen Kingdom so she and Alan go look for her and get the help of Claire/Owen.
We've had a short film of dinosaurs living in the mainland out on youtube called Battle at Big Rock (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7kbVvpOGdQ&t=7s)as well as three motion comics depicting how life is now in the normal world with dinosaurs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnR4Y2QGOhg&t=110s)[/YOUTUBE]. Also the CG animated series Camp Cretaceous comes out in August which takes place during the events of JW. There's also a Lego Jurassic World show which is not canon and mostly comedy.
Just filling in the new
TigerClaw
02-25-2020, 05:24 PM
Jurassic World 3 is officially titled. Jurassic World: Dominion
https://deadline.com/2020/02/jurassic-world-3-title-unveiled-1202868096/
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERpVCstWoAEZAUj?format=jpg&name=small
Andrew NDB
02-25-2020, 05:37 PM
Solid title, really. If anything, it'd be nicer as "Jurassic Dominion."
Yeah, I wish this hadn't been the "Jurassic World" trilogy but the "Jurassic" trilogy, you know, Jurassic World, Jurassic Kingdom, Jurassic Dominion. Whatever, still excited some stuff we know:
This is an ending for the past 6 Jurassic Park movies. Not necessarily the last Jurassic Park movie in this continuity (:(). Kinda wish this continuity could end to get a real reboot based on the books.
Egon1982
02-26-2020, 06:06 AM
Personally i thought part 2 of Jurassic World was better than the first as it has some practical effects, better characters and more enjoyment.
Sumac
02-26-2020, 11:55 AM
Yeah, I wish this hadn't been the "Jurassic World" trilogy but the "Jurassic" trilogy, you know, Jurassic World, Jurassic Kingdom, Jurassic Dominion. Whatever, still excited some stuff we know:
This is an ending for the past 6 Jurassic Park movies. Not necessarily the last Jurassic Park movie in this continuity (:(). Kinda wish this continuity could end to get a real reboot based on the books.
Enough with reboots. **** them.
If anything I respect THIS decision to stick to the same continuity.
TigerClaw
02-26-2020, 03:56 PM
I'm looking forward to it. Now that the Dinosaurs are out in the wild. all sorts of crazy stuff will happen. People getting random attacks from Dinosaurs out there.
I'm not crazy for dinosaurs in the mainland but it was alluded to in the original, shown in the second one, cliffhanted in the third, hinted in the fourth, and actually done in the fifth one so I guess it was inevitable.
Enough with reboots. **** them.
If anything I respect THIS decision to stick to the same continuity.
This timeline has done everything it can do, I love JP and I love this continuity but I'd rather it end and have a movie based on the actual book.
Andrew NDB
02-26-2020, 11:23 PM
This timeline has done everything it can do, I love JP and I love this continuity but I'd rather it end and have a movie based on the actual book.
I'd normally agree with Sumac but you're right, with this franchise. To go any further and just... what, more random pockets of dinosaurs spread out in the world somehow? There's no way they can do another park. Maybe dust off the old genetically engineered, militarized dinosaur idea? Eh, no, they've done about all they can. All they can do is a full reboot in a while and a closer adaptation of the original novel isn't a bad idea.
Sumac
02-27-2020, 09:37 AM
I'd normally agree with Sumac but you're right, with this franchise. To go any further and just... what, more random pockets of dinosaurs spread out in the world somehow? There's no way they can do another park. Maybe dust off the old genetically engineered, militarized dinosaur idea? Eh, no, they've done about all they can. All they can do is a full reboot in a while and a closer adaptation of the original novel isn't a bad idea.
I think they can move forward without relying on "small pockets of dinosaurs" or "militarized dinosaurs". So far they'e made a pretty decent job with it.
This timeline has done everything it can do, I love JP and I love this continuity but I'd rather it end and have a movie based on the actual book.
I don't see it. There is always the way to continue story.
frank_one
02-27-2020, 12:01 PM
A reboot based on the books? I wouldn't be willing to see that.
The first book by Crichton has been already developed as a movie by Spielberg and is a masterpiece. Do you really want a second attempt at that? Is there someone out there really thinking Spielberg's version is not good enough? Isn't the fact that we are here talking about the Jurassic Park franchise after 27 years a sufficient evidence of how good the first movie by Spielberg was? I know, the novel has some differences, a different tone, but I don't think it is something so important, I don't think the movie deserves to be rebooted just for that.
The second book by Crichton? Ok, the movie adaptation was very different from the novel and was not perfect. But was the book better than the movie? No, it wasn't! The Lost World by Crichton is boring and it adds nothing to the story, nothing that wasn't already in the first novel, it is just a vague tribute to Conan Doyle's The Lost World (great book!) with some of the characters of Jurassic Park in it. That's why the movie is different from the novel, it had to be different.
So, do we really need a reboot closer to the novels? I don't think so.
I think they can move forward without relying on "small pockets of dinosaurs" or "militarized dinosaurs". So far they'e made a pretty decent job with it.
I don't see it. There is always the way to continue story.
Don't get me wrong, to me a world where dinosaurs exist can have tons of movies being made in it. However look at the JP movies, each sequel needs to have something "bigger", you can't do that forever and keep it not be ridiculous, remember when JP4 would have human/raptor hybrids?
That's where we'll end up again if we continue this continuity. I mean smaller scale stories would be awesome but it's not happening.
A reboot based on the books? I wouldn't be willing to see that.
The first book by Crichton has been already developed as a movie by Spielberg and is a masterpiece. Do you really want a second attempt at that? Is there someone out there really thinking Spielberg's version is not good enough? Isn't the fact that we are here talking about the Jurassic Park franchise after 27 years a sufficient evidence of how good the first movie by Spielberg was? I know, the novel has some differences, a different tone, but I don't think it is something so important, I don't think the movie deserves to be rebooted just for that.
The second book by Crichton? Ok, the movie adaptation was very different from the novel and was not perfect. But was the book better than the movie? No, it wasn't! The Lost World by Crichton is boring and it adds nothing to the story, nothing that wasn't already in the first novel, it is just a vague tribute to Conan Doyle's The Lost World (great book!) with some of the characters of Jurassic Park in it. That's why the movie is different from the novel, it had to be different.
So, do we really need a reboot closer to the novels? I don't think so.
The movies have Spielberg magic and that makes them better than the books, the books are different but it's an interesting take. The only way to redo JP is to be like the books which is very different, a remake similar to Spielberg's take will only be a downgrade.
Voltron
03-11-2020, 11:21 PM
I just hope they don't ram their liberal agenda down our throats like they did with the first movie.
All the dinosaurs were getting a sex change? Real believable. Thanks, Obama.
Is anyone else here a fan of the new-ish 3 3/4" Jurassic Park stuff? I thought it was great.... but then they released the Hammond convention exclusive and although the figure was great, the exclusivity of that one pulled the steam out of it for me.
I haven't heard of much about the line after the wave with "Macy". Anyone know what became of it? It was great...
Egon1982
03-24-2020, 06:15 AM
Sounds terrible and i enjoyed the second one over the disappointing first one of this new trilogy.
Powder
03-24-2020, 06:29 AM
Personally i thought part 2 of Jurassic World was better than the first as it has some practical effects, better characters and more enjoyment.
Sounds terrible and i enjoyed the second one over the disappointing first one of this new trilogy.
You don't say!
ranger_scout
06-15-2020, 12:53 PM
The film is now on track to become to become the first major studio movie to resume production in the UK.
https://deadline.com/2020/06/universal-jurassic-world-production-uk-chris-pratt-bryce-dallas-howard-1202958819/
raph27
06-16-2020, 07:49 PM
Nothing says Jurassic Park like opening before things are ready...
ranger_scout
06-25-2020, 02:21 PM
Nothing says Jurassic Park like opening before things are ready...
Bryce Dallas Howard is assuring that they "are going above and beyond" with safety protocols.
https://deadline.com/2020/06/jurassic-world-bryce-dallas-howard-covid-production-protocols-chris-pratt-universal-1202961413/
Also, Campbell Scott will be playing a key character from the very first Jurassic Park film.
https://collider.com/jurassic-world-3-lewis-dodgson-campbell-scott/
Andrew NDB
10-07-2020, 02:03 AM
Delayed a full year to June, 2022.
https://www.darkhorizons.com/jurassic-world-dominion-delayed-a-year/
wtf, people? If there is still going to be the kind of hysteria there is today in May, 2022... we're f**ked.
Wildcat
10-07-2020, 02:38 AM
It’s that June is too soon for theaters to go back to normal. Even if there is a vaccine or some kind of treatment by then.
A lot of movies got moved to 2021 which means an unusual amount of competition plus many will still prefer to stay in. Too many big name movies in 1 year. Ghostbusters 3 might get delayed again.
I’m very grateful that Sonic not only exceeded expectations but released with just enough time before this happened. Any later and it would have taken a massive hit.
Andrew NDB
10-07-2020, 02:42 AM
It’s that June is too soon for theaters to go back to normal.
Nonsense. Many ARE open... but they're dying on the vine because studios have turned their backs on them. If they keep to 25% capacity and keep things sanitized... what's the problem? If you really want to see Ghostbusters 3 and, say, you can't get a ticket because they're sold out for Tuesday at 8:00 PM because it's a showing at 25% capacity... just book your ticket for Wednesday. The theater and the studio still get your money, but with a slight delay.
Wildcat
10-07-2020, 03:18 AM
I don’t know if many people can just reschedule their night out to the theater like that. Some probably plan out when to go. I do and I hardly goto the theater.
I seriously do not understand what you expect studios to do. Just release movies with no consideration to circumstances out of their control?
Jurassic Park is a major franchise. Would you really just release it without thinking over the best release window given the situation?
A year is a long time but it actually makes sense. 2021 is crowded with releases that were not meant for then. From a financial standpoint it’s a smart decision.
25% now but maybe higher by June vs 90-100% in 2022 with less competition. When would you rather release your movie?
Movie studios aren't going to send out their movies to die to cater to a minority who wants to see the films now when most people don't. Simple economics.
frank_one
10-07-2020, 01:37 PM
Movies cost a lot of money, they can't just put them out when there's no one out there going to theaters. It's like having a gold bar and selling it when the gold price is low.
TigerClaw
10-07-2020, 03:19 PM
Delayed a full year to June, 2022.
https://www.darkhorizons.com/jurassic-world-dominion-delayed-a-year/
wtf, people? If there is still going to be the kind of hysteria there is today in May, 2022... we're f**ked.
2021 is too crowded with many movies being rescheduled. Some of those movies had to be put on 2022.
5 minute preview in new fast furious movie
Andrew NDB
06-10-2021, 09:10 PM
5 minute preview in new fast furious movie
I guess only if you see the IMAX version?
true imax only, i don't want to spoil myself too much. I'm pretty hyped about the movie. unsure why, I loathe the idea of dinosaurs all around the world but somehow I think the movie will be good. I'm not sure how they'll handle bringing the old characters back or how to bring the 6 movies to a close as they've said. They're clearly going to leave it open ended to be able to continue making movies which they've been blatant about it, so not even hints of it and I hate that but if it can bring the first 6 movies to a close somehow I can live with it.
https://img.europapress.es/fotoweb/fotonoticia_20210610143543_420.jpg
I have no idea what this movie is going to be but I hope it's good and I hope it's going to bomb at the box office. Mostly since I don't want Jurassic Park 7 three years later. Let the franchise die for a while and you can reboot it closer to the book years later.
Wildcat
06-12-2021, 12:36 AM
I finally saw Fallen Kingdom recently and really enjoyed it.
I’ve seen the complaints. I only agree the main villain was pretty dumb. The caretaker. His only motivation is being infinitely rich. Just a pointless cliche.
I already knew about the girl because I came across a spoiler.
Gotta see the cartoon. I know it’s in continuity with the movies.
TigerClaw
11-23-2021, 04:25 PM
Here's The Prologue to Jurassic World Dominion
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The Deadman
11-23-2021, 04:26 PM
My body is ready
Roseangelo
11-23-2021, 04:42 PM
The last movie had soooo many issues, but I'm always on board for more dinos.
TigerClaw
11-23-2021, 04:49 PM
The director did a breakdown of the Prologue.
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Andrew NDB
11-23-2021, 04:49 PM
The 12 year old in me is interested to see Sam Neil and Goldblum back together again. But that's about it.
The 12 year old in me is interested to see Sam Neil and Goldblum back together again. But that's about it.
I'm very excited about that. Jurassic World really got me back into the franchise. It's sequel jumped the shark a bit in the second half with the mansion though.
I'm really looking forward to seeing this one.
TigerClaw
11-23-2021, 06:01 PM
What's cool about this Prologue. It showed some of the original dinosaurs having feathers, Which explains why the Dinosaurs in Jurassic Park and Jurassic World do not due to that missing part of the DNA that they used a frog's DNA to complete.
Andrew NDB
11-23-2021, 06:05 PM
What problems did you guys have with fallen kingdom? I loved it, I wish the island parts had been longer, the mansion parts were awesome.
Mostly that it was stupid and unbelievable.
What problems did you guys have with fallen kingdom? I loved it, I wish the island parts had been longer, the mansion parts were awesome. The not-john hammond was an alright retcon and I didn't mind the clone girl.
I just hated the ending of dinosaurs all over the world which is what this movie is about but I guess there was no stopping it, it was the idea of the novels, the second movie did it, the third movie originally was going to do it, the unfilmed fourth movie was going to do it.
I have no idea what to expect, I'm also excited for the original actors even if it makes no sense that they'd be involved based on their character arcs but whatever. It's meant to reference everything and "end" the saga while leaving it open ended for future movies. The franchise is supposed to take a break after this movie comes out which is good but apparently we'll get more movies eventually which I'm not crazy for dinosaurs everywhere.
What's cool about this Prologue. It showed some of the original dinosaurs having feathers, Which explains why the Dinosaurs in Jurassic Park and Jurassic World do not due to that missing part of the DNA that they used a frog's DNA to complete.
This had been fanon in the JP fandom for many many years, it's nice to see it included. I love scaly dinosaurs more than anything but we need to move on and have feathered dinosaurs in media. A movie with feathered dinosaurs is Dinosaur Island 2014 (https://miscrave.com/articles/dinosaur-island/), can't think of many others.
Mostly that it was stupid and unbelievable.
sure but so are the rest of the sequels, only the first movie really works as "believable".
Wildcat
11-23-2021, 11:33 PM
Fallen Kingdom was good. Not sure how it’s unbelievable. Some things are kinda far fetched but plausible.
Including the old characters makes sense since the dinosaurs are here. Instead of any of them getting dragged to the islands again.
Bryce Dallas Howard kind of hinted on her instagram that Claire won’t survive. That’s disappointing if true.
The others managed to survive. Unless it’s not just her but I highly doubt they’d kill Grant, Ellie or Malcolm. Does not necessarily mean it’s by a dinosaur but then she can’t return in any future movies.
Andrew NDB
11-23-2021, 11:59 PM
For one, there was only like 20 dinos in that room. Now they're let out and the planet is overrun with dinosaurs everywhere? How?
Wildcat
11-24-2021, 12:52 AM
They’ve already said Dominion is how the dinosaurs become part of earth again. Obviously they’ll try to recover them but they’re unable to for whatever reasons which allows most of them to live on and breed.
JP7 is more likely to have dinosaurs overrunning depending when it takes place. Probably not a dinosaur apocalypse but civilization being altered because of their presence. Like wildlife changes and going outside being dangerous.
I'm looking forward to this because it's a frivolous, eyecandy, fun adventure series. But with that said, I'm always more of a fan of the Dinosaurs running around jungles than becoming "King Kong" monsters in a city.
There's something more visceral about the "man vs dinosaur" as "hunter in the wild jungle" flicks than "T-Rex Drinks From a Pool and terrorizes young girl and her dog".
Just a point of convo with that. It's not a "make or break for me". But again, the weakest parts of the last one where the mansion material.
Andrew NDB
11-24-2021, 11:31 AM
Well, this is what I wrote in my post here about the last movie. I don't really even remember it very well now beyond the ending:
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Saw Jurassic Park 5. Better than 4... but not very good. Seems really desperate in grasping at straws to take things in this series any place new. It really doesn't have much to say. The "Indoraptor"? Government shadow agencies bidding small amounts of money for dinosaurs for... war? A cloned girl inserted to make us see that "we're the same as the dinosaurs"? I don't get the hybrid stuff, and it's two movies in a row now... and the last three now have been trying to "out T-rex the T-rex"... stop that. Best moment was the brontosaurus on the dock as they left. The rest is kind of a sub-end-of-"Lost World" affair. I don't think any movies after this will be even this compelling... I guess, they're just supposed to go around and try and collect them now, Pokemon-style? That doesn't seem very interesting.
It's a lot like Westworld (which makes sense... Westworld was Crichton's Jurassic Park warmup)... the whole thing is the robot revolt. Jurassic Park, the longer you can have the park believably and functionally open, the more mileage you can get. "Jurassic World" presented another chance, but they just repeated the exact same story as the first movie except inserting a lame FAKE dinosaur. The longer you spend building that up and living in that (whether it's the park in the JP movies or Westworld in Westworld), the more you can get out of that.
Better writing, the last Jurassic World could have had crazy stuff confined to an isolated incident paid off by rich investors... leaving future movies to continue delving into that pot. But it left things in exactly the same place as the end of the first movie. To be fair, I'm not sure what else this new movie could have done.
I didn't get what they were going with tonally with the ending. Is it... "Yay! T-Rex and velociraptor are gonna eat people in cities now!"? Because that's pretty sadistic. Is it... "The dinosaurs win! They're reclaiming their empire!" Because they won't. Or what? It doesn't make any sense and I wasn't sure what the movie wanted me to feel. There wasn't THAT many dinosaurs released... there was like 30, tops, in that room. Surely a week with the National Guard and Army combing the area would clean up (i.e., completely murder) all dinos roaming around.
Sumac
11-24-2021, 04:48 PM
Fallen Kingdom felt like a B-movie parody with a budget. An evil auction to sell dinosaurs. A cartoonish villain. A preachy scenes, like the one with a little girl releasing dinosaurs.
All in all it felt...pointless and stupid.
I agree that I think dinosaurs in the mainland are a different type of movie that I don't want Jurassic Park to be, I still enjoy it because dinosaurs but I'd prefer a more what happens in the park, a movie sequel that Jurassic Park The game told about the barbasol can (https://miscrave.com/articles/jurassic-park-game-movie/) or even a sequel based on Jurassic Park // Chaos Continues video game (https://miscrave.com/articles/jurassic-park-chaos-continues/).
But we can't deny that dinosaurs in the mainland was an idea that is in the original book and has been hinted in every movie after the first, so it's very Michael Chrichton. The movie takes place a few years after Fallen Kingdom and by now the information of cloning dinosaurs has been out and sold for many years (since JW basically when Wu escapes), they released a couple of dozen of dinosaurs but we don't know how long they were selling the others for. The world will only have more dinosaurs, not as its main population either but I guess life finds a way is what they're going for. I'll be the judge when I see the movie. I actually want this movie to do really badly because I don't want a JP 7 unless it's a remake/reboot.
Wildcat
11-24-2021, 10:36 PM
They’ve spent too much time in the park/islands. Dinosaurs loose in civilization is the next logical step. Encounters like that in the drive-in are cool (I know it’s not gonna be in the movie).
There’s more for the dinosaurs to interact with now. At this point that’s more interesting than more running through the jungle and rides breaking.
Reopening JW after the Indominus Rex events would not have made sense. It was already operational for sometime before then. I’m glad we got to see it in business though.
frank_one
11-25-2021, 02:26 AM
For a series of movies called Jurassic WORLD it is about time the dinos leave the park and start roaming the world. Now all I want is a Dino-Riders movie.
Turo602
11-25-2021, 02:59 AM
I've always wanted this series to explore the idea of dinosaurs and humans "co-existing." So the ending of Fallen Kingdom made me extremely happy with where they were going with this. I just hope they do that dark ending I've always wanted as well where the dinosaurs do win and humans start becoming extinct as Ian Malcolm predicted. It could essentially end up becoming more like Planet of the Apes but with dinosaurs so that it still remains a cautionary tale to not f*ck with nature.
Sumac
11-25-2021, 04:17 PM
Anther movie set on the island with the dinosaurs, would be just too predictable and goofy. Not to mention non-original.
For better or worse moving away from the park idea is a logical and (possibly) the only way to continue the story without making it "island of the week" movie self-parody. Though Fallen Kingdom almost did it anyway.
TigerClaw
11-25-2021, 05:16 PM
Ever since the 3rd act of Lost World Jurassic Park showed the T-Rex going around San Diego causing problems, I always wanted to see what it looked like if Dinosaurs were released around the world, I think it would fun and wild to see how the people would have to deal with all that.
Like it wouldn't be safe to go outside because there might be a Dinosaur in the corner, Even going camping wouldn't be safe.
The Deadman
12-01-2021, 01:07 PM
We've got a rating
https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3694130/jurassic-world-dominion-rated-pg-13-intense-action-violence/
Sumac
12-01-2021, 03:55 PM
Ever since the 3rd act of Lost World Jurassic Park showed the T-Rex going around San Diego causing problems, I always wanted to see what it looked like if Dinosaurs were released around the world, I think it would fun and wild to see how the people would have to deal with all that.
Like it wouldn't be safe to go outside because there might be a Dinosaur in the corner, Even going camping wouldn't be safe.
Interestingly enough, I know a lot of people who loved original movie and absolutely hated San Diego rampage. They've claimed it was too "cheesy" and like a B-movie about dinosaurs.
Andrew NDB
12-01-2021, 03:56 PM
Interestingly enough, I know a lot of people who loved original movie and absolutely hated San Diego rampage. They've claimed it was too "cheesy" and like a B-movie about dinosaurs.
Probably depends the age of who saw it.
Andrew NDB
01-31-2022, 06:06 PM
New one won't be the last one.
https://www.darkhorizons.com/dominion-wont-be-the-last-jurassic/
They've been saying that for like 3 years now, that the franchise will take a small break after Jurassic Park 6 and that this was an ending of the 6 movies before it but that it would continue on in a "new" way now that dinosaurs live with humans.
Here's 3 promotional spots for the winter Olympics
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The Deadman
02-01-2022, 01:56 PM
I wonder if the trailer is gonna drop during the Olympics themselves since we're getting all these crossover commercials.
Sumac
02-01-2022, 05:36 PM
Rather creative approach to advertising.
Would have been better, if they had a clip, where Xi is eaten by a dinosaur, but...I don't think it'll happen. LOL.
Autbot_Benz
02-10-2022, 10:48 AM
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CyberCubed
02-10-2022, 04:08 PM
Looks to be the Ghostbusters Afterlife of Jurrassic Park films. Or it could wind up being the Star Wars Episode 9 and Terminator Dark Fate of Jurassic Park films.
Sumac
02-10-2022, 05:36 PM
Looks to be the Ghostbusters Afterlife of Jurrassic Park films. Or it could wind up being the Star Wars Episode 9 and Terminator Dark Fate of Jurassic Park films.
So either average childish movie or ****** copypasta.
Its like choosing between dead pigeon on your balcony and a cat vomit in your boot.
And it seems there will "San Diego rampage x 11".
frank_one
02-10-2022, 06:03 PM
Looks to be the Ghostbusters Afterlife of Jurrassic Park films.John Hammond will come back as a ghost :D
Sumac
02-10-2022, 06:58 PM
John Hammond will come back as a ghost :D
Or a clone.
JP after all deals with human cloning...;)
Leo656
02-10-2022, 07:01 PM
I'm waiting for the one where they just stick saddles and lasers on the dinosaurs and just morph it into a Dino-Riders spinoff series.
Otherwise there is no f*cking point anymore. So just get there already and stop dragging it out.
Trailer is fine and honestly the story seems like the best option for dinosaurs being around the world. They are two separate stories with individual goals, the dinosaurs around the world are just a "factor" not the main story. I hope the movie bombs so we don't get any seques after this one but they always mentioned this would end the saga of the last 6 movies. So it's going to be "smaller" scale. Being a Jurassic Park lore sensei lvl.99
Wildcat
02-10-2022, 10:42 PM
This trailer was simply amazing. I was not expecting it to be this “epic”.
I know it would be realistic given the situation but I really hope none of the main cast dies.
It’s cool to see the old characters have more than cameos. It definitely seems that way.
Andrew NDB
02-10-2022, 10:49 PM
Looks to be the Ghostbusters Afterlife of Jurrassic Park films. Or it could wind up being the Star Wars Episode 9 and Terminator Dark Fate of Jurassic Park films.
If it's good, it could end up being -- in one movie -- what the ST should have been in its last two. You know, a young cast and an old cast, the old cast propping up the young cast while still having their own moments to shine.
Andrew NDB
02-11-2022, 12:05 AM
Trevorrow would've made a better Episode IX, too bad Disney got rid of him when he didn't want to follow suit.
Mmm... some parts of his treatment seemed better, other parts possibly worse. I tend to think it might have shaken out "about the same," particularly when Kathleen Kennedy threw her weight around to get her way.
There is a reason there is apparently like 4 or 5 drastically different cuts of JJ's IX. Man, that is NO way to make a movie.
Sumac
02-11-2022, 07:47 AM
Trevorrow ideas looked certainly better, its just Ruin Johnson arrogance and fanatical faith of Kennedy in his abilities, have ruined any chances of episode 9 being anything good anyway.
I like we have feathered dinosaurs, some scenes from the book will make it, we have two separate stories that will collude together in the end and the movie is specifically not about dinosaurs destroying the mainland, it's just separate stories that deal with dinosaurs and dinosaurs are in the mainland but have been for a few years now so it's not a dinosaur rampaging through cities movie.
I don't think the trailer is amazing but I think the movie should be alright. After all, all JP movies are silly except the first one. I think this is where the franchise always meant to end in from the book to all the movies so I can live with dinosaurs in the mainland. I still hope the movie bombs and we get a reboot based on the book or a prequel to Jurassic Park or Jurassic World since I just find that setting far more interesting.
I'm waiting for the one where they just stick saddles and lasers on the dinosaurs and just morph it into a Dino-Riders spinoff series.
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TThis movie they're taking a hiatus before they make a Jurassic Park 7 which continues this same continuity, this is still an "ending" of the legacy story. Jurassic won't become Dino-Riders but the rumor is that apparently there is a Dino-Riders revival that is meant to continue dinosaurs while JP is on hiatus, it should've started this year but it got delayed because COVID delayed the movie a year. There's evidence of this so it might be true.
Trevorrow Directing Episode IX
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I don't want to derail the thread too much, clearly the trilogy was unsalvageable but I think Trevorrow understands legacy and new blood a little bit better and would've given us a better ending even if still a bad trilogy. I think his ideas were a little too against what Kennedy wanted so he got the boot and returned to Jurassic and will now end this trilogy in a better way than JJ with Rise.
Powder
02-11-2022, 09:03 PM
This doesn't appeal to me at all. I think I'm tired of all the nostalgia wanking. The last two weren't even good anyway. I liked the first Jurassic World at the time but once the rose colored glasses came off, I couldn't even sit through a complete second viewing.
Andrew NDB
02-11-2022, 09:13 PM
This doesn't appeal to me at all. I think I'm tired of all the nostalgia wanking. The last two weren't even good anyway. I liked the first Jurassic World at the time but once the rose colored glasses came off, I couldn't even sit through a complete second viewing.
It's just a much more amateurish take on JP1 and basically a requel to it.
Leo656
02-11-2022, 09:19 PM
Dawg, I can't even sit through the original JP movie. And I've made multiple attempts. I mean, I've seen it a few times but all I remember is Laura Dern in shorts. Nothing about it sticks. Hated the sequels. Never saw the new stuff.
I don't know what it is but these movies are not for me at all. Not saying they're bad, I don't think they are. I like dinosaurs and everything, I don't know why these movies don't register with me. But I figure if I've seen something like five or six times and STILL it leaves no impression, I probably shouldn't keep pressing the issue.
My wife loves them. Otherwise I only would have seen the original movie once, and I never would have seen the sequels.
Maybe it's the plots, or the cast. I sincerely don't know. I just know that none of these movies do a single thing for me at all. I feel like maybe I'd prefer something that had the same technology but more of a horror slant. I don't feel like anything I've seen takes the basic premise as far as it should, and maybe that's the problem. It all feels like a fairy tale movie type scenario when my head says this should be a global extinction event and treated as such.
But even that's just speculation. I sincerely don't know why these movies never grabbed me. Over-hype? Maybe. I kinda wish I knew. Normally when I don't like something, I have a good idea why. This series vexes me, because I don't like it but can't put my finger on why not.
AquaParade
02-11-2022, 09:54 PM
I love the first movie, liked the second as a kid, but haven't even seem the new ones. Never had interest. Especially once I learned they were creating new types of dinosaurs, which took away some of the fun, in my mind. Might as well just make monster flick at that point.
DarkFell
02-11-2022, 10:15 PM
Dawg, I can't even sit through the original JP movie. And I've made multiple attempts. I mean, I've seen it a few times but all I remember is Laura Dern in shorts. Nothing about it sticks. Hated the sequels. Never saw the new stuff.
JP 1 was pretty damn good.
JP 2 was dumb, but despite that opinion, it was okay.
JP 3 was meh, but I liked seeing Sam Neil return for one last JP movie.
JW 1 was okay, but also hit-or-miss in some areas. The Indominus Rex was a little too much for a hybrid.
JW 2 was kinda lame. I felt it offered less than Jurassic World did.
You probably dodged a bullet with the later movies.
The Deadman
04-30-2022, 09:04 AM
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oldmanwinters
04-30-2022, 09:10 AM
Seems simultaneously too ambitious (massive multi-gen cast globetrotting?) and sappy (save Blue’s baby?) but you bet yourassic I’ll go see it!
I'll be able to watch this 10 days before it releases in theaters, i'm hyped. Will post my thoughts after I watch it.
Crazy to think that Jurassic World was able to revive the franchise to a new generation as well to the old one, something others like say Ghostbusters, TMNT and most other reboots failed to do. Also crazy that it's whithin the realm of possibility that Jurassic Park sequel trilogy might outperform the Star Wars sequel trilogy:
Star Wars sequels Gross Jurassic World series Gross
1 The Force Awakens $2,068,223,624 Jurassic World $1,670,400,637
2 The Last Jedi $1,332,539,889 Fallen Kingdom $1,308,467,944
3 The Rise of Skywalker $1,072,848,487 Dominion X
That's both because of the success of reviving the franchise of JP while also Disney failing at the revival of SWs.
The Deadman
04-30-2022, 09:44 AM
Ill be seeing Dominion that thursday the week it comes out, double feature with the first Jurassic Park. Pretty excited.
Sumac
04-30-2022, 10:48 AM
Fallen Kingdom was mediocre, but not offensive, unlike The Last Jedi.
superstaff
04-30-2022, 11:39 AM
Fallen Kingdom was mediocre, but not offensive, unlike The Last Jedi.
I thought both movies were dumpster fires that insult audiences' intelligence, and were also cynical cash grabs designed to solely rely on politics and fanservice, which gullible audiences gobble up like chocolate cake.
Sumac
04-30-2022, 11:59 AM
I thought both movies were dumpster fires that insult audiences' intelligence, and were also cynical cash grabs designed to solely rely on politics and fanservice, which gullible audiences gobble up like chocolate cake.
Indeed, its probably me caring less about JP story, rather than that of Star Wars. Not that I am big fan of SW, but I somewhat cared about it, so I see Sequel Trilogy as more offensive. It doesn't help, that I don't consider Lost World and JP3 good movies.
superstaff
04-30-2022, 12:12 PM
Indeed, its probably me caring less about JP story, rather than that of Star Wars. Not that I am big fan of SW, but I somewhat cared about it, so I see Sequel Trilogy as more offensive. It doesn't help, that I don't consider Lost World and JP3 good movies.
The only one I really enjoyed was Jurassic Park. I don't think it ever got any good sequels, and I think each one got worse as it went along. I kind of enjoy III as a 'So Bad, It's Fun to Mock It' type of thing...but still bad.
I was a Star Wars fan that enjoyed the OT, and the EU. I didn't like the prequels, though those were just poorly constructed, and didn't feel like a slap to the face. The ST was just post modern dreck. I remember being one of the very few who hated The Force Awakens from the get-go, and people acted like I was insane for disliking the sequels (tbh same thing happened to me with the prequels too). I was hoping The Last Jedi would be better somehow, though I saw the writing on the wall. I still think Rise of Skywalker is worse (with, like JP, each movie in the series getting worse as it progressed) because it took the worst aspects of VII and VIII, and just amped them up. Awful movies, all of them.
drgon78
04-30-2022, 12:36 PM
The first one is the best by far.
Sumac
04-30-2022, 01:34 PM
The only one I really enjoyed was Jurassic Park. I don't think it ever got any good sequels, and I think each one got worse as it went along. I kind of enjoy III as a 'So Bad, It's Fun to Mock It' type of thing...but still bad.
I was a Star Wars fan that enjoyed the OT, and the EU. I didn't like the prequels, though those were just poorly constructed, and didn't feel like a slap to the face. The ST was just post modern dreck. I remember being one of the very few who hated The Force Awakens from the get-go, and people acted like I was insane for disliking the sequels (tbh same thing happened to me with the prequels too). I was hoping The Last Jedi would be better somehow, though I saw the writing on the wall. I still think Rise of Skywalker is worse (with, like JP, each movie in the series getting worse as it progressed) because it took the worst aspects of VII and VIII, and just amped them up. Awful movies, all of them.
I genuinely like only JP1 movie.
I consider Lost World to be bloated mess of good episodes, but without anything that could unify it in a good coherent whole and JP3 is just a retread and feels almost like a B movie. Jurassic Worlds are modern blockbusters, where picture matters more than a story. And since no other movie managed to replicate magic of JP1. I don't feel they are very offensive.
As for Star Wars, I always will have a soft spot for a Phantom Menace, since it was my first SW movie I've watched, back in 2002. OT, of course, reigns supreme, but due to the lack of Internet I didn't know much about EU, besides few books I found in a library, which I didn't really liked.
I don't consider Prequel Trilogy to be all bad. They have very nice story, that tickles all my itches, when it come to sci-fi stuff, but its all marred by atrocious dialogues and stunted acting. And they managed to miscast Anakin, which is the main problem I have with Attack of Clones and Revenge of the Sith. At the very least they have some memorable moments, setpieces and memes.
As for the sequel trilogy, I had some hopes for it. I considered TFA to be "not so bad" even though it was a blatant ANH copypasta, but with worse actors. TLJ, however, was just stupid and incoherent and I've yet to watch Rise in its entirety, but from what I've heard it is a horrible wreck. All in all, I consider Sequel Trilogy to be creatively bankrupt and disrespectful towards fans and story of the previous movies. Especially, since Disney deleted EU, just to replace it with their garbage.
Leo656
04-30-2022, 10:09 PM
Replace Hayden Christiansen with Jake Gyllenhaal and marvel at how much better Eps. II and III would have been just from that alone.
That's all I have to add, I don't care about dinosaurs or CGI. Or CGI dinosaurs.
Andrew NDB
05-01-2022, 01:58 AM
Replace Hayden Christiansen with Jake Gyllenhaal and marvel at how much better Eps. II and III would have been just from that alone.
That's all I have to add, I don't care about dinosaurs or CGI. Or CGI dinosaurs.
I was always an advocate of DiCaprio for Anakin. There was even concept art wayyyy back. He would have killed it. He auditioned and all.
Though I wonder what that would have done for his career.
Leo656
05-01-2022, 02:16 AM
That probably would've been a little too "stunt cast-y".
I know this is outdated in the post-MCU era, but I always felt like Richard Donner did on the subject of casting super-heroes or trying to avoid "big names" for certain roles that require a certain suspension of disbelief. He talked about all the studio pressure to hire a Big Name to play Superman, and how "I never saw Robert Redford as Superman, I just kept seeing Robert Redford in a Superman costume."
That's pretty much how my eye sees things, as well. The only time I've ever been able to overlook it was admittedly Affleck as Batman, and a lot of that has to do with the fact that he looks exactly like Bruce Wayne. Otherwise, I just see "Big Star, Slumming It As ______ For An Easy Paycheck."
Hard to believe DiCaprio would have been any worse than Hayden Christiansen, though. I think a roll of Silly Putty would probably have more range than that guy did. "How about for the MOST important role in our series, we cast the WORST actor on Planet Earth? Eh? Ehhhhh?" Like what the f*ck.
Andrew NDB
05-01-2022, 02:25 AM
Stunt casty, in like 2003? Because he was in Titanic, I guess maybe. But I don't think so. He could have believably sold a lot of stuff that people don't like about Christiansen's performance. Though I'm still kind of of the mind that Lucas was looking for the sort of performances we got in 1950s serials. Not everyone's cup of tea... but I get it.
Sumac
05-01-2022, 02:26 AM
Lucas chosen Hayden for a role, since he want "nobody becoming super important", just like what had happened with Anakin in-universe.
He seemingly forgot, that similar background is not enough for a good role. Actor must has an ability to play
Leo656
05-01-2022, 02:33 AM
Stunt casty, in like 2003? Because he was in Titanic, I guess maybe. But I don't think so.
Big part of it. He hadn't become a Respected Actor, yet. He was still the guy all the girls sploosh'ed over and who the boyfriends all hated as a direct result of that. Brad Pitt went through the same thing; every "pretty boy" actor does. You couldn't get a straight guy in 2005 to watch a Brad Pitt movie unless his girlfriend threatened to withhold sex. Same thing with DiCaprio. That's just the way things went.
I still remember the rumors about DiCaprio getting the role, and a ton of people saying they would refuse to see Episode II at all if they "turned it into a chick flick and cast that joker, just to get more women to the theater." He was still many years and "serious movies" away from winning Those People over. I'm not sure it would have been worth all the brouhaha and ballyhoo. He definitely would have been "better", sure. But most people wouldn't have stood for it. I think they knew that, which is why they didn't pursue that direction. They could have gotten him for sure, they just probably didn't think it would be worth it.
Ironically, it turned out to be rather kind of a "chick flick" anyway, but I digress.
Andrew NDB
05-01-2022, 02:57 AM
Well, the funny thing about DiCaprio is kind of the same thing about Pitt movies of the time. You're right, they would have movies you'd end up going to see because of dates... but largely with both of them, those movies would end up being really good. "The Beach"? "Meet Joe Black"? Pretty great. These guys weren't putting out, like, Freddie Prinze Jr. type stuff even back then, they were always making smart choices.
Leo656
05-01-2022, 03:10 AM
I get it. "Troy" was not a world-beater but I admittedly liked him in it, and after that I was a lot less harsh on ol' Brad. Before that you would have had to pay me to sit through anything he was in. And that's directly because of my Mom and Sister loudly gushing "HE'S SO DREAMY!" while watching "Legends of the Fall".
Sometimes people just annoy you by proxy, and you don't mean to become a closed-minded snob about their work but it can't really be helped.
I watched the movie yesterday, here is a non-spoiler Jurassic World Dominion review (https://miscrave.com/articles/jurassic-world-dominion/)with my thoughts on it. Overall I was very afraid of what this movie would be but I loved it and think it works great as a final movie to the franchise. It's similar in style to the previous two Jurassic World movies, in case you don't like those then this is a bit more of that. It won't win any haters but I feel they did a good job with the movie in not "ruining it" like say Star Wars.
I watched the movie again, this time in 4DX and had a blast, now that's something you can't recreate at home. The 3D was nice and the added BS of having water and air, feedback etc is always fun. I still liked the movie, I was able to get a few more references which made me enjoy the movie more. I wanted the movie to bomb but it seems to be fairly successful so far but I liked the ending and I think a Jurassic Park 7 could be done well, I'm a bit less fearful but of course I rather not get a sequel to this.
I think the villains of the movie could've been hinted at in previous JW movies. Maisie Lockwood gets another retcon which I don't think it's necessarily better but whatever. I like how they don't have dinosaurs running around everywhere as if it were normal, in general dinosaurs live in the world but are not common and I like how the movie basically takes place at the Dinosaur Reserve.
Andrew NDB
06-05-2022, 01:08 AM
It's similar in style to the previous two Jurassic World movies, in case you don't like those then this is a bit more of that.
Well... there really isn't any going back from that. There could never be a Jurassic Park-level story again in this continuity.
superstaff
06-05-2022, 06:58 AM
Well... there really isn't any going back from that. There could never be a Jurassic Park-level story again in this continuity.
Yeah, and it's not like people care either. It seems that all that matters is that there's dinosaurs that kill people. That's the threshold of quality for most.
I mean i agree, Jurassic park told a story and finished it. Every sequel after that has not been needed but they're still the best dinosaur movies even if they can't hold a candle to the original.
This was the sixth movie with dinosaurs in the main land now. I think they did a fantastic job with all that baggage. It's a fun dinosaur movie and doesn't spit on the original. They did it better than star wars and star wars is a franchise that can actually go beyond the original premise unlike Jurassic.
I now feel confident a JP7 could be good even if i don't want a sequel, I'd rather get a prequel, reboot, a tv show or anything other than a JP7.
superstaff
06-05-2022, 11:15 AM
This was the sixth movie with dinosaurs in the main land now. I think they did a fantastic job with all that baggage. It's a fun dinosaur movie and doesn't spit on the original. They did it better than star wars and star wars is a franchise that can actually go beyond the original premise unlike Jurassic.
I got the vibe from Fallen Kingdom that we're supposed to disagree with Ian Malcolm at the beginning of the movie, and side with the 'environmentalist' dinosaur supporters. I guess that's not spitting on the original movie, just spitting on the 'old dinosaur' protagonist from the original.
No, that's consistent with what Malcolm wants and what others want. Hell I's the same point in the lost world where Malcolm disagreed with his girlfriend who wanted to preserve dinosaurs and he didn't care.
superstaff
06-05-2022, 04:19 PM
No, that's consistent with what Malcolm wants and what others want. Hell I's the same point in the lost world where Malcolm disagreed with his girlfriend who wanted to preserve dinosaurs and he didn't care.
I'm not saying it's inconsistent with his character. It's that the writers of the movie were villifying him for his view on the dinosaur situation.
I'm not saying it's inconsistent with his character. It's that the writers of the movie were villifying him for his view on the dinosaur situation.
I think you're seeing too much into that, he was never implied to be a villain like at all. He's just giving the same message he gave the previous two movies he was in. There was a viral marketing campaign of #savethem #actofgod whether they should stay in the island or not for fun but neither side was a villain. The villains of the movie are actually the ones who went to "save them" regardless.
I can definitely say Dominion respected the characters more than JP2 and JP3 did. Not every scene is perfect but they did things right unlike star wars.
oldmanwinters
06-10-2022, 01:57 PM
Critic reviews are not kind to this one.
They make it out to be that it's something of a dino-snore of a movie.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/09/jurassic-world-dominion-critics-call-blockbuster-worst-in-franchise.html
https://gizmodo.com/jurassic-park-films-ranked-lost-world-jurassic-world-do-1849036980
https://reason.com/2022/06/10/jurassic-world-dominion-is-a-sad-desperate-nostalgia-trip/
I'll still see it, of course, but the trailers just didn't do anything for me.
Turo602
06-10-2022, 09:20 PM
I enjoyed it. This is one of those franchises where I don't really understand the fanbase. The first movie is a classic and the best one, but how long can they ponder the same question and do the same movie? What do fans really want from this franchise? Sure, each movie got worse in the original trilogy but at that point, people are just watching for some dinosaurs on the big screen and I think the Jurassic World movies have been great popcorn flicks for that very purpose.
As for Dominion, it wasn't exactly what I expected or wanted, but I thought it was pretty good overall. I didn't expect the original cast to be featured as much as they were and I thought it was clever how they separated the old and new cast for most of the movie until their stories converged. The action was pretty good too and I loved just how scary they made the dinosaurs feel this time. It was like a horror movie whenever sh*t was going down with the dinosaurs and I thought they did a great job creating tension as well. They've seriously been snoozing on making a cool action adventure Jurassic Park game.
Yeah I don't know what people are expecting from this. It's a big budget dinosaur movie with Great action, effects and good acting unlike a b dino movie. The original movie is perfect but it tells a full stand alone story. Anything after that is just for fun to explore that world but it's not going to be better.
I know a lot of the bad reviews also stem from the fact that it's cool to hate Colin Trevorrow and because extremists think Chris Pratt is a right wing Nazi. Oh and it's not a marvel movie so it doesn't get any free points. I'm not saying it's for everyone, I'd you want an action movie with dinos this is for you. If you hated the previous Jurassic World movies then this isn't for you. But it's silly to rank this as the worst JP movie. For what it's worth I liked it and I hated the idea of dinosaurs in the mainland.
@Turo if you can check out Jurassic World Aftermath, it's a survival horror game. It's awesome.
Andrew NDB
06-11-2022, 12:34 AM
I expect I'd like it as much as 3, 4, and 5. As in a few notable moments and neat spectacle but otherwise meh. With a nonsense story. So it's not like it's in bad company, sure. Honestly only with 3 I felt cheated, mostly because of the running time and sense of "we've seen this before."
Hamato Yoshi
06-11-2022, 02:24 AM
might as well make a Dino Riders movie (if i made a MASK movie id set it in 80s like the toon)
oldmanwinters
06-11-2022, 01:33 PM
might as well make a Dino Riders movie (if i made a MASK movie id set it in 80s like the toon)
Yes, please!
Coola Yagami
06-11-2022, 01:47 PM
Did they go anywhere with the 'girl was a literal clone of her mother' plot from the last movie?
superstaff
06-11-2022, 05:31 PM
might as well make a Dino Riders movie (if i made a MASK movie id set it in 80s like the toon)
I'd prefer Dinosaurs and Cadillacs. :P
ZariusTwo
06-12-2022, 04:54 AM
Centurions is where it's at.:D
Andrew NDB
06-12-2022, 06:32 AM
Did they go anywhere with the 'girl was a literal clone of her mother' plot from the last movie?
I'm wondering this too. Otherwise... why?
Andrew NDB
06-13-2022, 12:32 AM
Saw it. Wasn't as bad as I was expecting it to be. I was surprised that they legitimately gave all of the classic cast stuff of value to do. Nobody felt underutilized. They got some surprising dramatic mileage out of the clone girl, which I did not think was possible after seeing the last one. Ellie and Alan get some nice moments.
The only weak links are the new characters. Black lesbian Han Solo (complete with Millennium Falcon) didn't serve any purpose but for them to say they have a black lesbian in the movie. They could've easily made one of the other characters a pilot and we could've been saved 10 minutes of running time. The nerdy black guy who snitches out the evil megacorporation is fine but we never get any sense of why he did the snitching or how he wouldn't have been vetted better.
The main bad guy is actually pretty good. He's not a big looming presence, but he's believable. He's quirky and logical and isn't just doing evil for evil's sake. I don't know if I'd ever seen that actor playing him but he was fun to watch.
Also, the shaving cream can from JP1? It's neat to finally have a nod to it... but why is it like a valuable thing now? Nedry even said it was going to go bad if he didn't get it into refrigeration/freeze within a short amount of time and he obviously failed to and it wasn't even being frozen now, 30 years later.
Coola Yagami
06-13-2022, 12:40 AM
The only weak links are the new characters. Black lesbian Han Solo (complete with Millennium Falcon) didn't serve any purpose but for them to say they have a black lesbian in the movie.
Probably the same old same old. Too many white characters, everybody is straight. We need a gay POC in there somewhere cause something something reasons.
Andrew NDB
06-13-2022, 01:48 AM
Probably the same old same old. Too many white characters, everybody is straight. We need a gay POC in there somewhere cause something something reasons.
Clearly. Transparently.
But hey. I will say that as a trilogy this does manage to "bring it all together" and justify itself. It's a little stupid but it's fine.
TigerClaw
06-13-2022, 05:39 AM
Saw it. Wasn't as bad as I was expecting it to be. I was surprised that they legitimately gave all of the classic cast stuff of value to do. Nobody felt underutilized. They got some surprising dramatic mileage out of the clone girl, which I did not think was possible after seeing the last one. Ellie and Alan get some nice moments.
The only weak links are the new characters. Black lesbian Han Solo (complete with Millennium Falcon) didn't serve any purpose but for them to say they have a black lesbian in the movie. They could've easily made one of the other characters a pilot and we could've been saved 10 minutes of running time. The nerdy black guy who snitches out the evil megacorporation is fine but we never get any sense of why he did the snitching or how he wouldn't have been vetted better.
The main bad guy is actually pretty good. He's not a big looming presence, but he's believable. He's quirky and logical and isn't just doing evil for evil's sake. I don't know if I'd ever seen that actor playing him but he was fun to watch.
Also, the shaving cream can from JP1? It's neat to finally have a nod to it... but why is it like a valuable thing now? Nedry even said it was going to go bad if he didn't get it into refrigeration/freeze within a short amount of time and he obviously failed to and it wasn't even being frozen now, 30 years later.
The main bad guy was Lewis Dodgson, who looked like Apple's Tim Cook, He was the character you meet briefly in the first Jurassic Park, They couldn't use the original actor because he's a registered sex offender now.
In 2010 or so we got a canon story on Biosyn recovering the shaving cream in Jurassic Park the Game (https://miscrave.com/articles/jurassic-park-game-canon/), it's immediately after the original movie ends.
Andrew NDB
06-13-2022, 02:02 PM
Oh, forgot to mention. Right before the movie played you get treated to a 2, maybe 3 minute PSA all about climate change. Basically it's a CGI dinosaur at a podium lecturing the audience about global warming and how humanity will go extinct unless we shape up, etc. Whatever it takes to improve their ESG rating, I guess.
Leo656
06-13-2022, 02:19 PM
humanity will go extinct unless we shape up, etc.
Why should anyone care? Human beings are so narcissistic by definition. They actually think we're gonna be the dominant species on this planet forever. :lol: How precious.
Warhorse
06-14-2022, 07:38 PM
Critic reviews are not kind to this one.
They make it out to be that it's something of a dino-snore of a movie.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/09/jurassic-world-dominion-critics-call-blockbuster-worst-in-franchise.html
https://gizmodo.com/jurassic-park-films-ranked-lost-world-jurassic-world-do-1849036980
https://reason.com/2022/06/10/jurassic-world-dominion-is-a-sad-desperate-nostalgia-trip/
I'll still see it, of course, but the trailers just didn't do anything for me.
I have yet to see it. Probably never will because the first Jurassic World just didn't grab me, but all the people I know who saw Dominion over the weekend say it was boring. One lady said her children fell asleep halfway through.
Wildcat
07-23-2022, 02:48 AM
Just watched it On Demand. Loved it. Thought it was going to be the best JP sequel and still think it is. Personal Rank based on story: JP, JW, FK, Dominion, LW, III (I go back and forth on 2 and 3).
Haven’t read or watched any reviews except a bit of those links above me. Ridiculous how anyone can say it’s boring or it has no plot/identity. Kinda hard to explain putting it in spoilers.
Dodgson wanting to use the giant locusts to alter the earth and take control is a perfect plot. It ties to the character wanting to smuggle DNA out and wants something more than just money. He obviously kept the Barbasol can as a trophy. It was on a shelf with claws and stuff.
The old and new cast being equally important to the infiltration of Biosyn came together wonderfully. Great combination of 2 separate storylines.
Kayla Watts was a pretty cool character even if she wasn’t that important. Call her PC or whatever. Then Ian’s daughter in the Lost World was PC too.
The “Nostalgia recreation scenes” complaint is dumb. It barely does that at all. I guess they mean the upside down car when they all meet. It’s not very long though.
So happy Claire did not die. Bryce Dallas Howard’s comments a couple years ago really seemed to imply that.
People really, really love glorifying the 80s/90s. Half of one review was just talking about the original. Yes we all love the original whatever-it-is. I saw JP in theaters too and became obsessed with it for awhile but it was not the Golden Age of entertainment. Stop putting it on a pedestal.
neatoman
07-23-2022, 08:27 AM
Can't these movies just adapt the "the dinos all get brain decay and go extinct" part from the second book already?
ranger_scout
11-04-2022, 10:48 PM
How Jurassic World Dominion Should Have Ended:
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Did anybody watch the in continuity Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous cartoon (https://miscrave.com/articles/camp-cretaceous/)? Overall it's a cartoon for kids so if you go with those expectations it'll be better. The kids have tons of plotarmor to survive the 5 seasons so it gets silly that they get into all these situations and come out alive. If you can live with that the first 3 seasons and interactive movie are pretty fun. The last 2 seasons are just awful, they introduce AI Robots and pokemon fighter Dinosaurs so everyone hates what happened but at least it got a good ending.
It's getting a sequel show Chaos Theory and it'll take place in the Dominion era so dinosaurs roaming the earth.
Sumac
12-10-2023, 12:14 PM
Can't these movies just adapt the "the dinos all get brain decay and go extinct" part from the second book already?
But how they gonna milk series!?
TheCanadiandrome
12-12-2023, 09:36 AM
Did anybody watch the in continuity Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous cartoon (https://miscrave.com/articles/camp-cretaceous/)? Overall it's a cartoon for kids so if you go with those expectations it'll be better. The kids have tons of plotarmor to survive the 5 seasons so it gets silly that they get into all these situations and come out alive. If you can live with that the first 3 seasons and interactive movie are pretty fun. The last 2 seasons are just awful, they introduce AI Robots and pokemon fighter Dinosaurs so everyone hates what happened but at least it got a good ending.
It's getting a sequel show Chaos Theory and it'll take place in the Dominion era so dinosaurs roaming the earth.
Oh that’s cool, I liked the cartoon actually
The Deadman
12-12-2023, 05:28 PM
Did anybody watch the in continuity Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous cartoon (https://miscrave.com/articles/camp-cretaceous/)? Overall it's a cartoon for kids so if you go with those expectations it'll be better. The kids have tons of plotarmor to survive the 5 seasons so it gets silly that they get into all these situations and come out alive. If you can live with that the first 3 seasons and interactive movie are pretty fun. The last 2 seasons are just awful, they introduce AI Robots and pokemon fighter Dinosaurs so everyone hates what happened but at least it got a good ending.
It's getting a sequel show Chaos Theory and it'll take place in the Dominion era so dinosaurs roaming the earth.
I watched it, yeah once they got off the main island in season 3 i think it was and got bored as hell.
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