What did you think the FW's series finale was going to be like?

[Prowler]

Back when you were watching the FW series for the first time, how did you imagine it was gonna end?

I always assumed the Turtles would eventually defeat Shredder in the final episode. Perhaps even kill him... yes, I was naïve. Even after Divide and Conquer I thought "Ok, now Shredder comes back for a final episode or two and that's it".

Needless to say, if you had told me in the middle of season 3 that Shredder and Krang would eventually be replaced by a new main villain named Dregg I'd not have believed you at all lol

Btw, I have a feeling most of the original fans of this series never got to know how it ended. plenty to this day never even got to see the Red Sky episodes. By the time season 6 or 7 rolled in, the popularity of the show was falling fast, wasn't it? I'm also not so sure if the red sky seasons aired in many countries outside of USA. As we know by now, most people's memories of the FW series are from the first 3 seasons. The peak of TMNT's popularity was around the time the first movie and the first Arcade and NES games came out. So basically 1989-1990.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

When I first watched the series, I thought it was gonna end on a random episode like most cartoons did back in the day, and wasn't bothered by the idea since it was the norm everywhere.

Shredder, Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady would continue to look for power for the technodrome for all eternity and the turtles would always be there to stop them. I was pleasently surprised when I found out that the show ended on a very conclusive note, and I think its the best ending that any tmnt incarnation has to date.

[Prowler]

When I first watched the series, I thought it was gonna end on a random episode like most cartoons did back in the day, and wasn't bothered by the idea since it was the norm everywhere.

Shredder, Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady would continue to look for power for the technodrome for all eternity and the turtles would always be there to stop them. I was pleasently surprised when I found out that the show ended on a very conclusive note, and I think its the best ending that any tmnt incarnation has to date.
Tbh I don't recall ever thinking it'd end on a random episode one day. But I remember how the show seemed to go on forever, and when I finished Divide and Conquer and next day found out it was the very final episode of the series I was actually surprise. The show was super long. 194 episodes is a lot for a cartoon series like this.

TMNT was probably the only cartoon series that gave me that sense of comfort of not being afraid it was suddenly gonna be the last episode one day. The only time I "feared" it was gonna end was season 2's finale with the Drome sinking into the lava. That episode had a very final episode feel to it, with even the Splinter and Shredder showdown reminding me of Star Wars. But that episode was rather early in the series, considering the first 2 seasons have like 18-20 episodes combined only and the series in total has 194.

[Sumac]

When I first watched the series, I thought it was gonna end on a random episode like most cartoons did back in the day, and wasn't bothered by the idea since it was the norm everywhere.

Shredder, Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady would continue to look for power for the technodrome for all eternity and the turtles would always be there to stop them. I was pleasently surprised when I found out that the show ended on a very conclusive note, and I think its the best ending that any tmnt incarnation has to date.
Same here.
Most cartoons I have watched just ended on random story. I didn't expected TMNT to be an exception.

[sdp]

Most of the season finales that the OT had work really well as series finales. S1,2,3,8,9,10 all work and it's mainly 4,5,6 that didn't really have season finales.

[CyberCubed]

Since I was watching regularly at the time I already knew about Dregg, etc.

I imagine those who stopped watching before the last few seasons would be confused.

[Prowler]

Most of the season finales that the OT had work really well as series finales. S1,2,3,8,9,10 all work and it's mainly 4,5,6 that didn't really have season finales.

Season 9? Dregg is exposed and leaves Earth but it sure doesn't feel like a proper finale. I thought that Dregg had been wrapped and that after that episode that we'd get Shredder and Krang back, though.

Season 2 finale idd has a very final episode feeling to it, as I've said.

What about season 7's Shredder Triumphant? What did you think of that one?

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Krang and Shredder trying to drain a power station in Japan, and repower the Technodrome. The turtles and Splinter would come to Japan and stop them. At the end, the turtles would succeed. In the final battle, Splinter would kick Shredder through a portal to Dimension X, just in time before it closes.

[Prowler]

Krang and Shredder trying to drain a power station in Japan, and repower the Technodrome. The turtles and Splinter would come to Japan and stop them. At the end, the turtles would succeed. In the final battle, Splinter would kick Shredder through a portal to Dimension X, just in time before it closes.

Why Japan of all places? Did you think Splinter would gain back control of the Foot Clan or something?

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Why Japan of all places? Did you think Splinter would gain back control of the Foot Clan or something?

Because we never had an episode with almost the entire main story set in modern Japan. But since it all began there, why not end it there?

[Wesley]

When I first watched the Fred Wolf series, I never actually thought how the cartoon could’ve ended. I assumed it ended with the season 8 episode “Enter: Krakus” in May 1995, as RTÉ Two started to rerun the entire series from the beginning in the summer of that year. It was a surprise to see seasons 9 and 10 along with “Turtle Trek” on tv a few years later in 1998. Like Prowler, I still thought there was going to be another season.

[Sumac]

Why Japan of all places? Did you think Splinter would gain back control of the Foot Clan or something?
I've expected something like that to occur in the series. Not in the final episode, but in general.
Quite sad, that the whole Foot Clan thing was never properly resolved.

[Prowler]

I've expected something like that to occur in the series. Not in the final episode, but in general.
Quite sad, that the whole Foot Clan thing was never properly resolved.
Tbh what was even the Foot Clan at that point anymore? Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady and some robotic Foot Soldiers? What ever happened to Oroku Saki's "empire of crime" when he left Japan to follow Yoshi in USA and try to kill him?

I remember the main goal of the Turtles at first was turning Splinter human again. They succeeded momentarily in the episode Splinter No More, but then he turned back into a rat again and he decided he preferred to live as one, so they never cared about turning him into a human anymore.

[Sumac]

Tbh what was even the Foot Clan at that point anymore? Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady and some robotic Foot Soldiers? What ever happened to Oroku Saki's "empire of crime" when he left Japan to follow Yoshi in USA and try to kill him?
Writers had forgotten about it I guess, which is a pity.

[ryukenden]

Even though I stopped watching when Red Sky rolled around. I was hoping for one last confrontation with Shredder and the Technodrome finally destroyed similar to the end of the first Arcade game. I was hoping for Karai to appear and running the Foot in Japan. When Dregg replaced Shredder and Krang, I lost complete interest.

[pferreira]

I expected a big battle. When we got that at the end of Season 3 I was honestly stumped as to what could happen next.

Most of the season finales that the OT had work really well as series finales. S1,2,3,8,9,10 all work and it's mainly 4,5,6 that didn't really have season finales.Planet of the Turtleoids was a season finale and was a damn good one. 6 I have no idea but 4 I guess if you watch Splinter Vanishes as the last episode of that season.

[CyberCubed]

Every season had a proper finale but a few:

Season 1 has a finale

Season 2 has a major finale

Season 3 has a major finale

Season 4 literally ends on a mad scientist filler episode (lol)

Season 5 ends with Planet of the Turtleoids, a pretty big ep

Season 6 ends with a random episode

Season 7 ends with a big finale, the Technodrome lost in Dimension X while Shredder/Krang are on Earth

Season 8 ends with a finale

Season 9 doesn't end of a finale, but it clearly sets up Season 10

Season 10 ends with a decent finale.



It was really only Season 4 and Season 6 that didn't end on a big episode. It seemed every other season the writers considered that possibly being the shows last season (in case the show was canceled), so they gave it a good proper ending for that point.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Season 4 ends with the two Easter episodes.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

You could also just combine season 6 and 7 into one season since season 6 lacks a finale, season 7 lacks a premiere and both seasons have the technodrome at the bottom of the ocean.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

You could also just combine season 6 and 7 into one season since season 6 lacks a finale, season 7 lacks a premiere and both seasons have the technodrome at the bottom of the ocean.

Also, "Leonardo is Missing" is set before "Rock Around the Block".

[pferreira]

It was really only Season 4 and Season 6 that didn't end on a big episode. It seemed every other season the writers considered that possibly being the shows last season (in case the show was canceled), so they gave it a good proper ending for that point.If you're watching Season 4 in the right order it should be Splinter Vanishes which is an interesting episode to end the season with.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

If you're watching Season 4 in the right order it should be Splinter Vanishes which is an interesting episode to end the season with.

Splinter Vanishes rocked!

[cammy85]

I expected a big battle. When we got that at the end of Season 3 I was honestly stumped as to what could happen next.

Planet of the Turtleoids was a season finale and was a damn good one. 6 I have no idea but 4 I guess if you watch Splinter Vanishes as the last episode of that season.

"Sleuth On The Loose" was the last episode in Season 6 and a darned epic one!! Professor von Volt + Doomsday Device + robots + competent henchmen + Miss Agatha = well-written/suspenseful finale!!

[Vegita-San]

I would have PREFERRED Dregg be defeated, in season 9.

then we get a return of Shredder and Krang for a slightly longer season 10 to wrap things up. Have Shredder win an invasion, the Turtles become freedom fighters. they win over the human race.. and eventually destroy the technodrome in a blow up. Boom. end of story.


But, what we got wasn't bad either. It was pretty odd seeing a dimension x/technodrome episode without the main bad guys in it. but at least they where referenced in SOME way.

[Prowler]

I would have PREFERRED Dregg be defeated, in season 9.

then we get a return of Shredder and Krang for a slightly longer season 10 to wrap things up. Have Shredder win an invasion, the Turtles become freedom fighters. they win over the human race.. and eventually destroy the technodrome in a blow up. Boom. end of story.


But, what we got wasn't bad either. It was pretty odd seeing a dimension x/technodrome episode without the main bad guys in it. but at least they where referenced in SOME way.
True. When they went to the Technodrome in Dimension X in the final episode I was hoping for Shredder and Krang to pop up and fight the Turtles. Come to think of it, the Turtles(it was only two of them, to boot) risked a lot by going inside the Technodrome on their own assuming Shredder and Krang or Bebop or Rocksteady wouldn't be there to ambush them or something. It looked abandoned but it wasn't fully destroyed. In fact, in the Turtle Trek episode, we get the idea the big mofo is wrecked for good. So how did the Turtles know it'd still be there and Krang's body had managed to avoid any damage at all? Good ol' Fred Wolf inconsistencies. FWIW, David Wise wrote Turtle Trek, while Divide and Conquer was written by Jeffrey Scott.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I wonder who picked the Technodrome from that hole on Balaraphon? It could probably be easy done with a tractor pull, but who did it?

[cammy85]

I wonder who picked the Technodrome from that hole on Balaraphon? It could probably be easy done with a tractor pull, but who did it?

One theory is that the plant didn't consume it fully and was strong enough to spit it back out of the pit. But I like yours too!!!

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

The idea of the turtles walking through an empty Technodrome in the final episode is great, because it echeos all the way back to the early episodes when it was full-powered and able to run over entire cities!

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I wonder who picked the Technodrome from that hole on Balaraphon? It could probably be easy done with a tractor pull, but who did it?

I always thought that after Shredder and Krang escaped and Bebop and Rocksteady were eaten by the plant, it had nothing more to devour and decided to throw the technodrome out of its hole.

Shredder and Krang would've then likely tried to repair the technodrome, until they saw it was a lost cause, which caused them to abandon it.

[Prowler]

I always thought that after Shredder and Krang escaped and Bebop and Rocksteady were eaten by the plant, it had nothing more to devour and decided to throw the technodrome out of its hole.

Shredder and Krang would've then likely tried to repair the technodrome, until they saw it was a lost cause, which caused them to abandon it.

Man, I still remember when people thought Bebop and Rocksteady were either dead or lost somewhere in Dimension X.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Here's a fanfiction writer theorizing what happened:

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6481997/1/The-Long-Road

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Man, I still remember when people thought Bebop and Rocksteady were either dead or lost somewhere in Dimension X.

Whats to prevent that from being the case nowdays?

[Vegita-San]

I always assumed they where lost. or still working with shredder and krang. yet for some reason, Mung ONLY met Shredder and Krang one time, and thus that was all he transported.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I always assumed they where lost. or still working with shredder and krang. yet for some reason, Mung ONLY met Shredder and Krang one time, and thus that was all he transported.

Mung had probably no interest for teleporting Bebop and Rocksteady to Earth.

[Sumac]

Every season had a proper finale but a few:

Season 1 has a finale

Season 2 has a major finale

Season 3 has a major finale

Season 4 literally ends on a mad scientist filler episode (lol)

Season 5 ends with Planet of the Turtleoids, a pretty big ep

Season 6 ends with a random episode

Season 7 ends with a big finale, the Technodrome lost in Dimension X while Shredder/Krang are on Earth

Season 8 ends with a finale

Season 9 doesn't end of a finale, but it clearly sets up Season 10

Season 10 ends with a decent finale.



It was really only Season 4 and Season 6 that didn't end on a big episode. It seemed every other season the writers considered that possibly being the shows last season (in case the show was canceled), so they gave it a good proper ending for that point.
Wasn't there like 2 companies running TMNT show at the same time, which resulted in plotholes and some inconsistencies?

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Wasn't there like 2 companies running TMNT show at the same time, which resulted in plotholes and some inconsistencies?

Are you talking about season 4, which CBS took over right in the middle of the season?

[Sumac]

Are you talking about season 4, which CBS took over right in the middle of the season?
Yeah, probably.

I remember, someone had said that at some point 2 companies had rights to broadcast new episodes of OT and each were doing it on its own schedule.

I might be mistaking, since I don't how and when exactly OT TMNT was shown on American TV, though.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Yeah, probably.

I remember, someone had said that at some point 2 companies had rights to broadcast new episodes of OT and each were doing it on its own schedule.

I might be mistaking, since I don't how and when exactly OT TMNT was shown on American TV, though.

All airdates

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_(1987_TV_seri es)_episodes

Seasons 1-3 air in syndication. So did some early-season 4 episodes, before CBS took over airing the rest of season 4, and all of seasons 5-10.

[pferreira]

All airdates

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_(1987_TV_seri es)_episodes

Seasons 1-3 air in syndication. So did some early-season 4 episodes, before CBS took over airing the rest of season 4, and all of seasons 5-10.Yep, correct.

Splinter Vanishes rocked!So much so I bought a copy of the script from the writer. :)

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I don't think syndication exists outside the USA (except maybe also in Australia and Canada).

[Prowler]

Tbh, the FW series didn't really have a bad final episode at all. It certainly had a better ending than the 2k3 series did. It's not that the final episode of that series was bad per se, but of all things to end the show they end it with a wedding? :lol:

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Tbh, the FW series didn't really have a bad final episode at all. It certainly had a better ending than the 2k3 series did. It's not that the final episode of that series was bad per se, but of all things to end the show they end it with a wedding? :lol:

Although I love Wedding Bells and Bytes personally and think the Nick finale was good too, I stand by my word that FW had the absolute best final episode. Hearing that twisted and creepy version of the technodrome theme while Donatello and Michelangelo explored it sent chills down my spine.

[neatoman]

think the Nick finale was good too

Which one? The official one in which the FW characters pop up or the Apocalypse which the crew claims to be the proper ending?

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Which one? The official one in which the FW characters pop up or the Apocalypse which the crew claims to be the proper ending?

There is only one proper finale obviously, the Mutant Apocalypse, both in terms of chronology and production order. The Crossover being the finale is nothing more than glorified Advertising by Nick. Its flattering as a FW fan, but the Crossover wasn't the true finale.

Its like saying the 80s European Vacation literally took place during season 7, or that Fast Forward took place before Ninja Tribunal.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

robotic Foot Soldiers?

The remainining Foot robots were probably trashed for good when the Technodrome left Earth in "Shredder Triumphant!" Same with the Technodrome's Foot robot production company.