"A Wrinkle in Time" movie

[Andrew NDB]

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Has anyone checked this out? Is it any good? It looks like it has "BOMB" written all over it, to me. It seems a little bit telling that variations of the same damn trailer is playing every time I go to the theater, 80% of it talking about how great the crew is, how diverse the cast is, and how wonderful the director is and only about 20% featuring the actual movie... as if they're trying to manufacture another "important" movie.

[Shark_Blade]

The story is not appealing to me, so no I'm not gonna go see it.

[dl316bh]

Has anyone checked this out? Is it any good? It looks like it has "BOMB" written all over it, to me. It seems a little bit telling that variations of the same damn trailer is playing every time I go to the theater, 80% of it talking about how great the crew is, how diverse the cast is, and how wonderful the director is and only about 20% featuring the actual movie... as if they're trying to manufacture another "important" movie.
They must have changed trailers, then. Last time I was in the theater - The Last Jedi, so only a couple months ago - it was just a straight up story trailer. It didn't look like anything special and, in fact, the kids acting performances even in the footage they picked for the trailer felt kinda crap. Guess they can't all be the Stranger Things cast.

Sounds like a case of another movie that did the book wrong, judging by what I've read. Either way, it's probably much less trying to manufacture anything than the studio realizing they probably had a dud and using the usual tricks to try and get people in opening weekend before reviews and word of mouth killed it off in week two. And the reviews are pretty iffy. Rotten Tomatoes has it pegged at 42%. Apparently it's pretty to look at, but the performances are bleh and it kind of speeds through things, sort of like how The Last Airbender film treated its source material, though probably not to the level of that extreme example.

[Storm Eagle]

The story is not appealing to me, so no I'm not gonna go see it.

It didn't really grab me either when I read it, but I still think it would suck if this movie did bomb, with all the hype it has been getting.

[TigerClaw]

It didn't really grab me either when I read it, but I still think it would suck if this movie did bomb, with all the hype it has been getting.
It would not be good for Disney if it bombed. Since they spend a whole lot of money on it.

[Autbot_Benz]

42% Critics
27% Audience

on Rotten Tomatoes

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/a_wrinkle_in_time_2018/

[NinjaPug]

It would not be good for Disney if it bombed. Since they spend a whole lot of money on it.

I think Disney will be fine either way

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I hated it when I read it. Too bad the movie sucks, though.

[plastroncafe]

I'm half way through the book now, and I can't say as it's grabbed me yet.
It came highly recommended, but I think it might be the sort of thing that one needs to read at a specific time in one's development to really truly enjoy.

Kind of like Catcher in the Rye.

It's gotten good reviews from the folks that I know who've seen it.

[Storm Eagle]

It would not be good for Disney if it bombed. Since they spend a whole lot of money on it.

It sucks for any movie where a lot is spent on producing it.

I'm half way through the book now, and I can't say as it's grabbed me yet.
It came highly recommended, but I think it might be the sort of thing that one needs to read at a specific time in one's development to really truly enjoy.

Kind of like Catcher in the Rye.

It's gotten good reviews from the folks that I know who've seen it.
I tried reading A Wrinkle in Time in the fifth grade, and it probably didn't grab me back then either since I didn't really read it all the way through. I had to do a book report on it too, and I kind of just bullsh*tted when I wrote it, and I actually got a decent mark. I figured I'd try reading it again last year. I made it near the end, but then I had to return it to the library when I couldn't get any more renewals on it, and never bothered to go back to it again.

As for Catcher in the Rye, I bought it on a whim at Barnes & Noble when they were having their party for the release of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, which I also bought. Catcher is pretty darn good. I was 28 when I bought it and read it, and I'd like to think that I'd enjoy it as a teenager since I find I relate to Holden Caulfield in some ways.

[plastroncafe]

As for Catcher in the Rye, I bought it on a whim at Barnes & Noble when they were having their party for the release of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, which I also bought. Catcher is pretty darn good. I was 28 when I bought it and read it, and I'd like to think that I'd enjoy it as a teenager since I find I relate to Holden Caulfield in some ways.

I LOOOOOOOOVED Catcher when I was in high school.
Loved it. It was the first bit of Big L literature that I felt really spoke to me.

[Storm Eagle]

I LOOOOOOOOVED Catcher when I was in high school.
Loved it. It was the first bit of Big L literature that I felt really spoke to me.

What's Big L literature?

This may or may not fall into a category such as Big L, but the way you described the book, that's how I felt about The Outsiders, which I had to read for high school. It was one of four books that was assigned to me for summer reading as an incoming freshman. The others were The Pigman, Eric, and The Pearl. The latter just bored the crud out of me and was a chore to read.

[plastroncafe]

What's Big L literature?

This may or may not fall into a category such as Big L, but the way you described the book, that's how I felt about The Outsiders, which I had to read for high school. It was one of four books that was assigned to me for summer reading as an incoming freshman. The others were The Pigman, Eric, and The Pearl. The latter just bored the crud out of me and was a chore to read.

Big L Literature is basically works of fiction deemed to have a higher level of importance by...I don't know, people who have strong opinions about such things. It usually consists of the works of dead white guys. So stuff like Shakespeare, Hemingway, Steinbeck, Kafka...etc.

Work of cultural importance.
As opposed to say Harry Potter, or Stephen King.

When you say Eric, you don't mean the one by Pratchett, do you?
Man, I'd have LOVED to have read Pratchett when I was in school.

I read The Pearl in Jr High, and it was...weighty.
It, like the Scarlet Letter,, and Of Mice and Men, just pissed me off.

[dl316bh]

Kind of like Catcher in the Rye.
Yeah, that's one of those books where you either like it or you don't and I rarely see much in between. I never cared for it at all, the book or the main character, but there were a couple in high school who loved it.

[Andrew NDB]

I think I read Catcher in the Rye in 9th grade. I won 1st place in the district level "Reflections" contest for a short stort I wrote in that vein.

A few years back there was all these reports about unpublished sequels to it that were discovered when the author died. I wonder if we'll ever get to read them.

[drgon78]

I remember reading Catcher in the Rye, The Scarlet Letter, and The Great Gatsby. They are some of worse books I have ever read.

As for this movie, it looks terrible.

[plastroncafe]

I remember reading Catcher in the Rye, The Scarlet Letter, and The Great Gatsby. They are some of worse books I have ever read.

As for this movie, it looks terrible.

I hated both Gatsby and The Scarlet Letter. I understand their importance as works of fiction, but I really hate stories where everyone is an @sshole.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

If it bombs, it will be a shame. I read it as a kid on my own and enjoyed it, but thus far no movie adaptation has ever really done it justice. It's a very difficult story to adapt anyway, and the fact that it is as much about the nature of reality as it is a sci-fi tale makes it hard for some to grasp. I want to see this, but might not get a chance, so I hope it at least does well.

[Storm Eagle]

When you say Eric, you don't mean the one by Pratchett, do you?


Eric is written by Doris Lund. It's about her son Eric and his life battling leukemia. I only read it half-assedly when it was assigned to me back then, but I decided to revisit it recently. It's so-so.

I remember reading Catcher in the Rye, The Scarlet Letter, and The Great Gatsby. They are some of worse books I have ever read.



I hated both Gatsby and The Scarlet Letter. I understand their importance as works of fiction, but I really hate stories where everyone is an @sshole.

Instead of reading the actual book for Gatsby, I checked out the original movie that was made for it. I couldn't get into it, and therefore I didn't bother to finish.

As for The Scarlet Letter, I might just stick with Easy A, which is basically a modern version of that book.

If it bombs, it will be a shame. I read it as a kid on my own and enjoyed it, but thus far no movie adaptation has ever really done it justice. It's a very difficult story to adapt anyway, and the fact that it is as much about the nature of reality as it is a sci-fi tale makes it hard for some to grasp. I want to see this, but might not get a chance, so I hope it at least does well.

Even though I thought the book was so-so, I decided to rent a copy of the movie on DVD that was made for TV back in 2003. Whether this new version flops or not, I'd still be interested in renting it when it comes out on home video.

[drgon78]

Yeah, Easy A, the only good version of the Scarlet Letter.

[Vegita-San]

Has anyone checked this out? Is it any good? It looks like it has "BOMB" written all over it, to me. It seems a little bit telling that variations of the same damn trailer is playing every time I go to the theater, 80% of it talking about how great the crew is, how diverse the cast is, and how wonderful the director is and only about 20% featuring the actual movie... as if they're trying to manufacture another "important" movie.

Oh great, another SJW movie. sigh. I don't remember Oprah being able to act.

When I saw the preview for this, I wasn't even sure what the movie was about. just alot of fancy CGI images across the screen.

Visually I guess it looks interesting, but it obviously didn't grab my attention.

[plastroncafe]

No one tell him the book came out in 1962, or that Oprah's been nominated for an Oscar.

[ProphetofGanja]

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[Prowler]

Big L Literature is basically works of fiction deemed to have a higher level of importance by...I don't know, people who have strong opinions about such things. It usually consists of the works of dead white guys. So stuff like Shakespeare, Hemingway, Steinbeck, Kafka...etc.

I remember reading The Old Man and the Sea when I was in 8th grade or something once. It wasn't a school reading, so I picked it out of free will since my mom kept telling me I should read books. Wasn't a fan of it. Dunno if it's because I was too young to understand it yet or because I genuinely didn't like it.

Kafka? Der Prozess was good. Shame it's unfinished. But good nonetheless. Die Verwandlung, though? Didn't care much for it. It was an easy read, though.

Never read Shakespeare or Steinbeck, so I can't really comment on their work.

Did you read 1984 or Fahrenheit 451? I loved both, especially 1984. Again, not for school. I was already in my 20s when I read both. I read 1984 in a day basically. I took eating and bathroom breaks, obviously. Fahrenheit took me like 3-4 hours to read or so. Was an easy book to read all the way through.

PS: What's the big deal about them being "dead white guys"?

[Vegita-San]

PS: What's the big deal about them being "dead white guys"?

probably SJW code for something. Triggering attempt #456?

[Utrommaniac]

- Thread about A Wrinkle In Time
- Turns into discussion on classic literature.



That being said, I think Beowulf was my favorite classroom read, though it's not even slightly 19th-20th century literature.

I think a big part of it was that we got to do a big project on it, and I chose to make my project a comic from the perspective of Grendel's Mother. It was fun.

[plastroncafe]

I made the mistake of reading A Brave New World and 1984 in the same summer, I spent the next few months being more paranoid than I think I've ever been in my life

I think the only thing that could have made it worse as if I had read V for Vendetta around the same time, but thankfully I didn't stumble upon that one until way later.

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PS: What's the big deal about them being "dead white guys"?

I don't mean it as a disparagement, but more a statement of fact. That routinely Works done by white men are considered as having more clout as Big L literature, then works by people who aren't white men. I mean people have gone out of their way to create an entirely new term just a separate their works of fiction from genre fiction. ie: magical realism vs fantasy.

The fact that they're dead speaks more to the publication date of the material itself.

That maybe our curriculum could have used a bit of freshening up. Now bear in mind it has been a long-ass time since I was in high school, so it's possible that freshening up has already occurred.

But we may want to move a conversation about the reception of certain authors and literature to another thread, it looks like there's a snowflake getting his dander up.

[Sumac]

PS: What's the big deal about them being "dead white guys"?
A lousy attempt to dismiss importance of those works, because of skin color of their authors.
In another words, casual racism born out of "white guilt", which is hilariously stupid idea.

I made the mistake of reading A Brave New World and 1984 in the same summer, I spent the next few months being more paranoid than I think I've ever been in my life
Why I am not surprised. :roll:

[plastroncafe]

See?
Triggered.

So, how about that wrinkle in time movie?

[Prowler]

I made the mistake of reading A Brave New World and 1984 in the same summer, I spent the next few months being more paranoid than I think I've ever been in my life

I think the only thing that could have made it worse as if I had read V for Vendetta around the same time, but thankfully I didn't stumble upon that one until way later.



I don't mean it as a disparagement, but more a statement of fact. That routinely Works done by white men are considered as having more clout as Big L literature, then works by people who aren't white men. I mean people have gone out of their way to create an entirely new term just a separate their works of fiction from genre fiction. ie: magical realism vs fantasy.

The fact that they're dead speaks more to the publication date of the material itself.

That maybe our curriculum could have used a bit of freshening up. Now bear in mind it has been a long-ass time since I was in high school, so it's possible that freshening up has already occurred.

But we may want to move a conversation about the reception of certain authors and literature to another thread, it looks like there's a snowflake getting his dander up.
I mean we live in the West. Ofc we're gonna place more importance into works written by Europeans and people of Western nations in general. Plus, don't blame those countries for being the most advanced ones for science and education at the time those works were published overall.

And it's not just "works by dead white men" that get credit. See The Art of War by Sun Tzu, for example. I'm sure if you signed up for Japanese or Chinese literature classes you'd be given a list of Asian authors to read as well, and I'm sure people from those countries read works by their fellow countrymen. Just like I was reading Portuguese authors in school instead of guys like Steinbeck and Dickens like you were. I don't really know what's hard to get about this, tbh.

So, you wanted to trigger people? Isn't that basically a trolling attempt?

As for the movie, meh not really interested.

[Vegita-San]

So, you wanted to trigger people? Isn't that basically a trolling attempt?
.

I'd report it if anything would get done. but, cube is still around insulting people, so why bother? :)

[plastroncafe]

Fret not, I don't blame those countries for being the most advanced in either science or literature, mostly because I don't think either of those things are true.

And I was neither trolling, nor going out of my way to trigger.
Though it appears that I have, and so I apologize.
As someone who copes daily with post-traumatic stress disorder, and the disarray that such a thing can have on someone's life, I would never willingly trip another person's trigger.

These things aren't laughing matters.

[Sumac]

See?
Triggered.
Mediocricity thy name.

Or rather cheap troll.

So, you wanted to trigger people? Isn't that basically a trolling attempt?
Isn't she always?
It's like the only thing she does here - bait people with concern trolling and then surprised why people don't like her or don't take her and lefties seriously, lol.

Fret not, I don't blame those countries for being the most advanced in either science or literature, mostly because I don't think either of those things are true.
"They were not worthless, except they were".

Now we go into stage where person drunk on the left kool-aid starts shouting that all works by white people were stolen from people of other ethnicities and white people have never produced anything of the worth.
Cue "white guilt".

[Prowler]

Fret not, I don't blame those countries for being the most advanced in either science or literature, mostly because I don't think either of those things are true.

And I was neither trolling, nor going out of my way to trigger.
Though it appears that I have, and so I apologize.
As someone who copes daily with post-traumatic stress disorder, and the disarray that such a thing can have on someone's life, I would never willingly trip another person's trigger.

These things aren't laughing matters.
I can't speak for the rest, but I wouldn't say I'm triggered or angry. I just wanted to know what point you were making.

Well, I mean by the time guys such as Hemingway, Kafka and Steinbeck were alive it's obvious Europe and USA were bounds and leaps above Africa overall in many aspects.

History is cyclical. At one point it was Central/South America that had more advanced societies than North America. Just like historically it's the Mediterranean/Southern portion of Europe that has been dominant culturally and politically speaking but nowadays It's Germany, Holland the UK and Northern Europe that are the richest countries in the continent.

[Andrew NDB]

No one tell him the book came out in 1962

I'm not qualified to venture an opinion as I haven't seen it, but apparently it bares little resemblance to the book?

[dl316bh]

I'm not qualified to venture an opinion as I haven't seen it, but apparently it bares little resemblance to the book?
I'm not sure if it barely resembles the book, because I haven't seen it either or read said book, but I've read a couple reviews and it sounds like some things changed, yeah, and not for the better.

[Andrew NDB]

According to the director (who will next direct WB's "New Gods") the movie got all the bad reviews because of racism.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/28273/director-critics-hate-oprahs-wrinkle-time-cuz-joseph-curl

[Vegita-San]

of course it did...

smh.

when will they realize the SJW defense doesn't work as well as it used to even a year ago? People are catching on now.

[plastroncafe]

Finally finished the book a few days ago, and yeah...I totally missed the atmospheric re-entry point for this book, by like a lot.

It does some cool stuff, but in addition to just being well past the age at which it would have the most impact, I also found it really dated.

I'm still looking forward to the movie, and I think I would recommend the book to a kid, but I'm pretty much all set without having read the rest of the series.

But yeah, if you're turned off by the so-called SJW nature of the movie, then you may want to steer clear of the book as well.

[ranger_scout]

I saw this last week and it was just okay. The talents of most of the actors were kind of wasted and it was hard for me to get behind and root the main characters. I hadn't read the book before, but I heard it was much better than the movie. I might buy it this summer.

[Sumac]

According to the director (who will next direct WB's "New Gods") the movie got all the bad reviews because of racism.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/28273/director-critics-hate-oprahs-wrinkle-time-cuz-joseph-curl
You know, unlike usual, I really hoped this article will be about some kind of misunderstanding or hyperbole, but nope.

A really sad state of affairs. Reminds me of Alex Proyas's reaction, when critics bombed his Gods of the Egypt. I can only hope that she will be able to reflect on her words and do not do this mistake in the future. Playing "-ism" card, if you movie is a failure is like the last thing to do.

[Andrew NDB]

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/06/brie-larson-diversity-film-critics

Brie Larson doesn't care what white people think about "A Wrinkle in Time." "It's wasn't for them."

[Sumac]

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/06/brie-larson-diversity-film-critics

Brie Larson doesn't care what white people think about "A Wrinkle in Time." "It's wasn't for them."
I want to make a witty comment, but at moments like this I feel like idiocy of such statement doesn't need a commentary.

My personal feeling, is that it's absolutely disgraceful and ugly to cry that movie was not understood / was not successful because of some kind of racial or whatever other bias. It makes a person to look like an idiot and amateur who wants to deflect criticism by appealing to some kind of bias.

[Autbot_Benz]

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/06/brie-larson-diversity-film-critics

Brie Larson doesn't care what white people think about "A Wrinkle in Time." "It's wasn't for them."

That's our Captain Marvel ladies and gents

[Sumac]

That's our Captain Marvel ladies and gents
More like "Captain Virtue Signal". :ohwell:

https://i.imgur.com/SMEs3fO.jpg

[plastroncafe]

That's our Captain Marvel ladies and gents

I know, ain't she great?
I mean she's not wrong, why does one minority opinion get way more press than the others.

[Andrew NDB]

More like "Captain Virtue Signal". :ohwell:

https://i.imgur.com/SMEs3fO.jpg

I think I'm going to borrow this. :)

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I can't judge whether the movie was for me or not, because I already hated the book...

But based on what I've looked into, the movie seemed to hew fairly close to the book. Enough to disinterest me, anyway.

And a 100-foot Oprah sure isn't going to earn points from me. Nor Reese Witherspoon turning into a magic leaf carpet. I don't remember EITHER of those from the book.

Actually, thinking about it, I think they changed up the three Whitches, or Whoses, or angels, or Three Magical Ladies, a lot. I don't think they were so spectacle-driven in the book.

Whatever, Andrew called it best: bomb written all over it. Too bad.

[plastroncafe]

I don't think it takes a dramatic leap in logic to say that if you didn't like the source material then chances are good the film adaptation of that Source material might not be within your wheelhouse.

This would be why I never have to see an adaptation of the Narnia books.
Or why blessedly I will never watch a Green Lantern movie.

But then, I wasn't really the Target demographic for the source material for either of those.

There's been a lot of kvetching on this forum about "fake geek" sites reviewing geek movies and then not giving them the accolades so-called true fans would have given them.

Kind of the same argument isn't it?
The target audience of a thing will have a different reaction to that thing then someone who has no emotional investment in it.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I don't think it takes a dramatic leap in logic to say that if you didn't like the source material then chances are good the film adaptation of that Source material might not be within your wheelhouse.

This would be why I never have to see an adaptation of the Narnia books.
Or why blessedly I will never watch a Green Lantern movie.

But then, I wasn't really the Target demographic for the source material for either of those.

There's been a lot of kvetching on this forum about "fake geek" sites reviewing geek movies and then not giving them the accolades so-called true fans would have given them.

Kind of the same argument isn't it?
The target audience of a thing will have a different reaction to that thing then someone who has no emotional investment in it.

That's why I'm not passing myself off as an expert critique on this. But I'm 99% sure 100-ft woman wasn't in the book...

I wish it had done better, for my friends who DO like the book. But it was fighting an uphill battle, same as the Narnia movies.

[plastroncafe]

I think she replaced Auntie Beast, though I couldn't say why.
I only read the book for the first time myself not too long ago.
And I'm sad to report that while I know many people for whom this book was a cultural Touchstone in their youth, it did nothing for me.

This is probably because I am well past the window of opportunity.
Except for that bit about the town. I really like the creepy synchronous town.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I think she replaced Auntie Beast, though I couldn't say why.
I only read the book for the first time myself not too long ago.
And I'm sad to report that while I know many people for whom this book was a cultural Touchstone in their youth, it did nothing for me.

This is probably because I am well past the window of opportunity.
Except for that bit about the town. I really like the creepy synchronous town.

That was the only part of the book that I liked, too! :tgrin:

[Sumac]

I know, ain't she great?
I mean she's not wrong, why does one minority opinion get way more press than the others.
What minority? White people? Since then they are minority?

And if you subscribe to this logic, then only black people have right to criticize stuff made by black people and only Asians have right stuff to criticize stuff made bu Asians and only white people (whoever the **** they are) have right to criticize stuff made by white people. Which just another form of racism.

We can go further and prohibit those pesky white people to watch stuff made by blacks. Who cares about whities opinion, right? However, then what those cretins will do when they movie will bomb with the black audience too? Cry that it was some racist conspiracy and that they movie failed because of evil white people?

Kind of the same argument isn't it?
The target audience of a thing will have a different reaction to that thing then someone who has no emotional investment in it.
No, because, people appreciate thing for its quality, whether they are like source material or not. Without racial bias involved.
So, no, it's definitely not the same thing. Words have meaning.

[plastroncafe]

I was super stoked to see the town in the trailer, but... yeah. From the forced these to the theology to how insufferable the little alien kid was... Just not a thing for me.

I will say I really did enjoy the portrayal of both of the parents.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I was super stoked to see the town in the trailer, but... yeah. From the forced these to the theology to how insufferable the little alien kid was... Just not a thing for me.

I will say I really did enjoy the portrayal of both of the parents.

Can't stand the little brother. Hated him in the book. You can't lampshade "hey, this kid is abnormally intelligent", have everyone else blithely accept it, and NEVER EXPLAIN IT.

As a father of a kid near that age, I belligerently call BS. Willing suspension of disbelief, shattered like a kid's heart on prom night.

[plastroncafe]

Maybe the plan was to address this in later books?
I'm told the series just gets weirder.

[Andrew NDB]

Mindy Kaling joins Brie Larson in "This movie wasn't for white people"/"if there were more non-white people critics, people would have (been tricked into) seen this movie."

And not, you know, "Oops. We did a bad movie." I guess there's never been a movie about white people that has done bad that's been reviewed by white people ever, right?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/mindy-kaling-star-calls-out-unfair-dominance-of-white-male-film-critics/ar-AAyJthK?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=UP97DHP

After all, those pesky white critics really ravaged "Black Panther," didn't they?

[Autbot_Benz]

Mindy Kaling joins Brie Larson in "This movie wasn't for white people"/"if there were more non-white people critics, people would have (been tricked into) seen this movie."

And not, you know, "Oops. We did a bad movie." I guess there's never been a movie about white people that has done bad that's been reviewed by white people ever, right?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/mindy-kaling-star-calls-out-unfair-dominance-of-white-male-film-critics/ar-AAyJthK?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=UP97DHP

After all, those pesky white critics really ravaged "Black Panther," didn't they?

Actually she is blaming white male critics for the mixed reviews of Ocean's 8

[Sumac]

Whatever this virtue signal people will say it won't change the fact that those movies were most mediocre and this is THE reason why they have failed. Movies do not fail, just because of the critics.

How many examples when the movie was mediocre, but it was financial success, despite critics lambasting it left and right?
And how many examples when the critics were praising the movie like a masterpiece, whereas the movie itself failed in the box-office?

All this "white people failed our movies" is just trash deflection by not particularly smart people. Because, any fool, with modicum of brain can understand when someone starts blaming some kind of conspiracy or bias for the failure of the movie, it reeks of desperate deflection.

[Andrew NDB]

Actually she is blaming white male critics for the mixed reviews of Ocean's 8

Not exactly. Her exact quote was "If I had to base my career on what white men wanted I would be very unsuccessful. So there is obviously an audience out there who want to watch things like, what I work on, what Sarah works on."

It's about Ocean's 8, it's about Wrinkle, it's about all of it.

And actually looking at the box office, Ocean's 8 is actually performing decently -- it's already made its whole budget back domestically, which is where it counts. The rest of weekend #2, then weekend 3 or 4 will surely put things sufficiently into the green. I'm not sure what she's complaining about.

[Papenbrook]

It's because white men review "certain films" from a biased and closed-minded perspective.

Films that target diverse audiences tend to get mixed reviews/reception from white male critics. (The lack of non-white male critics worsens this effect.) Resultantly, said films receive a misleading reputation, and perform poorly.

I think that's what they're trying to convey.

[Vegita-San]

Mindy Kaling joins Brie Larson in "This movie wasn't for white people"/"if there were more non-white people critics, people would have (been tricked into) seen this movie."

And not, you know, "Oops. We did a bad movie." I guess there's never been a movie about white people that has done bad that's been reviewed by white people ever, right?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/mindy-kaling-star-calls-out-unfair-dominance-of-white-male-film-critics/ar-AAyJthK?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=UP97DHP

After all, those pesky white critics really ravaged "Black Panther," didn't they?


i really hope people of all races see through this behavior as the sadness that it is.

[Sumac]

It's because white men review "certain films" from a biased and closed-minded perspective.

Films that target diverse audiences tend to get mixed reviews/reception from white male critics. (The lack of non-white male critics worsens this effect.) Resultantly, said films receive a misleading reputation, and perform poorly.

I think that's what they're trying to convey.
Any stats to back up this claim?

Because without any prove it looks standard leftie racism.

Also, as I said before, critics affect box-office of movies very little. There are plenty of examples when movie with **** rating manage to become box-office hit and vice-versa.