Batman/TMNT II #5 Preview and Discussion

[bushido]

Preview here (https://www.dccomics.com/reader/#/comics/436269).

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Ugh. UGH. UGH.

It's like a Platinum Dunes Ninja Turtle mixed with College Humor's Donatello mixed with Joel Schumacher's Bane.

What did we do deserve this? Haven't we suffered enough already?

[Andrew NDB]

Yikes, yikes and more yikes.

On the plus side... eh, it looks like they had a lot of fun working on this?

[ChosenOne]

"When characterization is ashes, then you have my permission to die."

[CyberCubed]

The art is so good.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

"When characterization is ashes, then you have my permission to die."

"What a lovely, lovely artist..."

[Andrew NDB]

"Schumacher Bane and Fred Wolfisms are powerful agents to the uninitiated... but we are initiated, aren't we, Technodrome Forums? Members of the League of Creatively Bankrupt!"

[ChosenOne]

"You'll just have to imagine the good writing."

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Andrew stepping into the thread like...

https://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdn1mcrsdZ1qc3ju8o3_500.gif

[Andrew NDB]

I don't mind seeing Bebop and Rocksteady around this or that peripherally because that's just the way it is right now... but Bebop and Rocksteady AND like the worst possible version of Bane, like my favorite comic book villain ever in anything? Now that's making it personal.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HeavySecretDungbeetle-size_restricted.gif

[ChosenOne]

You know what I'd like to see some day? Bebop and Rocksteady in a sort of Flowers for Algernon story. Yes, I know Marvel did it first with Flowers for Rhino, but that doesn't make it any less interesting of a concept to see those two actually have a brain behind all that brawn. You know what they don't need? More brawn. They're already frickin' powerhouses. How does Venom improve on that, exactly? This is just dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb. I'll still read it, because I'm just as dumb, but it's dumb. Like, Donatello-hopped-up-on-Venom dumb. Oh, wait...

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I don't mind seeing Bebop and Rocksteady around this or that peripherally because that's just the way it is right now... but Bebop and Rocksteady AND like the worst possible version of Bane, like my favorite comic book villain ever in anything? Now that's making it personal.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HeavySecretDungbeetle-size_restricted.gif

Maybe Bane will get foiled by a Reverse Venom Spectrometer invented by Detox Donnie and distributed over the city by the Turtle Blimp while Robin and Raph get into a pizza food fight with Bebop and Rocksteady. And then April will report it all to Channel 6 News.

[qt.bangerang]

Maybe Bane will get foiled by a Reverse Venom Spectrometer invented by Detox Donnie and distributed over the city by the Turtle Blimp while Robin and Raph get into a pizza food fight with Bebop and Rocksteady. And then April will report it all to Channel 6 News.

Honestly that sounds better then how this is going to really end...sigh TMNT with Batman has such great potential and it has been wasted.

[CyberCubed]

Dark Knight Rises Bane was almost as bad. His voice was comical, Tom Hardy played a completely different character.

[oldmanwinters]

I got inspired to make this exchange a little more 90s:
https://i.imgur.com/9YOSqM3h.jpg

[Zog The Magnificent]

Dark Knight Rises Bane was probably the most accurate depiction of Bane ever outside of the comics. Everywhere else he's a brawny powerhouse who uses venom at the drop of a hat.

[Andrew NDB]

Dark Knight Rises Bane was probably the most accurate depiction of Bane ever outside of the comics. Everywhere else he's a brawny powerhouse who uses venom at the drop of a hat.

I agree. Dark Knight Rises took a ton of liberties with the character (not the least of which was white-washing him from Latino, removing his origin and giving it to Talia, and making him an underling by the end of the movie) but it did succeed in 99% redeeming the stink of B&R Bane, showing him as a smart, calculating anti-Batman as he was always designed to be.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I agree. Dark Knight Rises took a ton of liberties with the character (not the least of which was white-washing him from Latino, removing his origin and giving it to Talia, and making him an underling by the end of the movie) but it did succeed in 99% redeeming the stink of B&R Bane, showing him as a smart, calculating anti-Batman as he was always designed to be.

Brawn, brains, driven, ferocious, analytical, cunning.

Just a weird visual redesign, but other than that, Bane.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

This looks......so bad.

[oldmanwinters]

I wonder if Venom-addict Donatello found another belt and strap to accommodate his bulkier form or if the one he had was simply built to stretch and resize.

[TurtleWA]

This issue will sell more than the ongoing #80 and universe #20 combined. That’s sorta weird to think about.

[Redeemer]

This issue will sell more than the ongoing #80 and universe #20 combined. That’s sorta weird to think about.

Art sell !!!! :lol:

I am actually enjoying this cross over more than most people, but I guess I had low expectations after how the last one ended.

[oldmanwinters]

Well, this issue got it's own internet feature story, so that means it's a RAGING success, right?
https://screenrant.com/batman-ninja-turtles-comic-bane-venom/

And if a generation of casual fans pick this one up on a whim, it could well contribute to a developing public consciousness about how characters like Bane and Donatello should/shall be portrayed going forward!

[Andrew NDB]

And if a generation of casual fans pick this one up on a whim, it could well contribute to a developing public consciousness about how characters like Bane and Donatello should/shall be portrayed going forward!

https://i.imgur.com/aFzWuSr.gif

[ChosenOne]

I can't get over Batman saying "Donnie", especially interspersed with "Donatello". Pulls me out of the story every single time.

[CyberCubed]

So I finished it, Bane is definitely doing the same thing Nolan's "Dark Knight Rises" Bane did in that he wants to take over the city. In fact I hear him with that awful Bane voice Tom Hardy did in the movie, "And we give the power back to you.....the Peeeeeopleeeee."

Splinter is revived by the Lazarous Pits. Don is still out of character, this writers doesn't know that Don would *never* consider himself weaker than his brothers, but oh well. The story flowed better as the issues progressed.

There's also an interesting plot twist on the last page when Batman goes to recruit someone to help him take out Bane, I want to see how that goes.

[oldmanwinters]

I can't get over Batman saying "Donnie", especially interspersed with "Donatello". Pulls me out of the story every single time.

Yeah, I noticed that inconsistent use of nicknames too. Batman is the kind of guy who would either go with one or the other exclusively. I feel the same way ever time I read a comic with Splinter using the nicknames on occasion.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

So I finished it, Bane is definitely doing the same thing Nolan's "Dark Knight Rises" Bane did in that he wants to take over the city. In fact I hear him with that awful Bane voice Tom Hardy did in the movie, "And we give the power back to you.....the Peeeeeopleeeee."

Splinter is revived by the Lazarous Pits. Don is still out of character, this writers doesn't know that Don would *never* consider himself weaker than his brothers, but oh well. The story flowed better as the issues progressed.

There's also an interesting plot twist on the last page when Batman goes to recruit someone to help him take out Bane, I want to see how that goes.

At least Nolan's Bane had believable motivation.

This Bane is just the typical "RAWR-Venom-back-break-conquer-RAWR" monster that's been the public perception since forever. UGH.

[shredder orokusaki]

Batman needs my help because he is to weak to defeat Bane. After i beat Batman two times now he begs me to help him take down Bane. What a pathetic coward he is!

[DrSpengler]

Here's my full summary and review of Batman/TMNT II #5 at TMNT Entity. (http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2018/03/batmantmnt-ii-5.html)

Yikes. This was about as predictable as it gets. But even looking past the whole Donnie-hooked-on-Venom thing, the worst bit was Splinter's coma and recovery. He gets better off-panel! Why'd they even bother including that in the first place; it has no impact on the plot.

I'm just sorta twiddling my fingers until this miniseries is over, now. Sorry.

[ProphetofGanja]

Good lord this issue was even worse than I'd anticipated

I wonder if the original draft had Splinter insane for a longer time after being resurrected by the Lazarus pit, otherwise how does the cover of the issue make any sense?