Your excitement level after seeing the trailer?

[Shark_Blade]

Here's the trailer:

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[CyberCubed]

I can't say I'm excited, but I'm interested to see how it turns out. I dunno, it's hard to grasp what the show will actually be like from a 30 second trailer.

[PApagreg]

I feel as if this thread is a bit redundant but I'm going to say 2 or 1, the animation does not look good

[xChri5x]

oh boy oh wow

[BabyTurtles]

I really like! ^_^ I was kinda wary about the animation at first, but after looking at it a few more times It kinda reminds me of Ducktales and Motorcity~

I really like the colors! so nice~

[Andrew NDB]

Still 0. But not "TMNT is dead!" It's just another TMNT show for little kids, why would I be stoked?

[BabyTurtles]

I have a question for the fans that watched the 80's version.

People say this show looks silly...but wasn't the 80's super duper silly too?
granted I only watched like 3 episodes of the 80's tmnt....so maybe I'm completely wrong....

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I won't do 0, because obviously TMNT isn't dead. We should be so lucky. :trazz:

At least some of you will enjoy it, though. But I'm out. No Ninja Turtles Go for me.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I have a question for the fans that watched the 80's version.

People say this show looks silly...but wasn't the 80's super duper silly too?
granted I only watched like 3 episodes of the 80's tmnt....so maybe I'm completely wrong....

Of course this show is silly like the 80s toon, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

My hype level is off the charts, cowabunga!

[IndigoErth]

I have a question for the fans that watched the 80's version.

People say this show looks silly...but wasn't the 80's super duper silly too?
granted I only watched like 3 episodes of the 80's tmnt....so maybe I'm completely wrong....
Yes, from the vantage point of looking back as adults, sure it is. It however had the advantage, unlike today's cartoons, of the fact that there was no huge adult fanbase yet. Sure, there were adult fans of the original comic, who may well have felt like we do now, but you figure the comic was still a smaller niche thing and the vast majority of fans in the 80s were kids. Didn't matter to most of us back then that it was silly, many 80s cartoons look that way now; TMNT is far from alone. But 21st century versions have a different kind of audience and expectations to try to live up to. What happens when you decide to pick up a long running beloved franchise...

[Kit31]

I'm really torn. It's between 2, 3, or 4 but I HATE giving it only a two. The trailer looks okay to me. Not great, but okay. I'm still looking forward to the series to see how all this plays out.

[shihe]

5/5
I need this show in my life more than I'm proud to admit.

The colors, the action, the humor, and the new origins story has me already wanting more.

I hope it grows on everyone eventually.

It's hard being in the possitive minority. But at least I'll be enjoying a new Tmnt show.

[Shark_Blade]

The new tmnt show is trending worldwide on tumblr. People are getting the buzz. :D

[Andrew NDB]

I have a question for the fans that watched the 80's version.

People say this show looks silly...but wasn't the 80's super duper silly too?

Yes, but it didn't seem silly at all when we were 5. Which is really the point.

[newfan]

I'm not thinking TMNT is dead, not sure where to rate it, as I said on the other excitement thread, given the type of toon I think it's meant to be it will just be one that I watch with my children, though this one has more interest with it being TMNT but that's about it.

Response on the net seems to be a complete turn around from the art release.

[neatoman]

More or less the same.

The only difference is that I now know it looks OK, nothing really dissapointed or pissed me off about the trailer. Not that I had any expectations to begin with. I'm going to watch the first few episodes to see if I like, if I do I'll continue, if I don't I won't.

From the looks of it, this show seems to go for the same tone as the 2012 show. If you liked that, then I suspect your only reason to "hate" this are superficial. Concept is a little different but there's not much difference from how the 2012 show was first advertised. Remember the early trailer for that show?

neexNjauRZA

In the end, there's no need to watch this show just to get a Turtles fix. IDW started publish TMNT comics a year before the first Nickelodeon TMNT show, they'll probably still publish by the time the third rolls in. I liked those comics better than the 2012 show, I'll probably like them better than this one, I'll probably like them better than the next one.

Yes, but it didn't seem silly at all when we were 5. Which is really the point.

Which is why we have 35 year old toddlers defending it whenever someone dares to imply it was bad...

[Vegita-San]

Or 35 year old toddlers trashing it, on a site dedicated to it :).

[KillCrites]

5/5
I need this show in my life more than I'm proud to admit.

The colors, the action, the humor, and the new origins story has me already wanting more.

I hope it grows on everyone eventually.

It's hard being in the possitive minority. But at least I'll be enjoying a new Tmnt show.
I'm 100% with you here. Where us Rise of the TMNT supporters lack in number we make up in strength.

[newfan]

More or less the same.

From the looks of it, this show seems to go for the same tone as the 2012 show. If you liked that, then I suspect your only reason to "hate" this are superficial. Concept is a little different but there's not much difference from how the 2012 show was first advertised. Remember the early trailer for that.

In the end, there's no need to watch this show just to get a Turtles fix. IDW started publish TMNT comics a year before the first Nickelodeon TMNT show, they'll probably still publish by the time the third rolls in. I liked those comics better than the 2012 show, I'll probably like them better than this one, I'll probably like them better than the next one.



Which is why we have 35 year old toddlers defending it whenever someone dares to imply it was bad...

This won't fill my 2012 gap. As for toddlers, aren't we all on this site? Granted not all like the toons but a lot like one or more of them.

[neatoman]

Or 35 year old toddlers trashing it, on a site dedicated to it :).

Eh, I'd "dedicated" is too strong of a word. More like "initially conceived to be about it". It's not exactly easy for a show like that to keep the interests of adults, especially when it got canned 22 years ago, which is why the vast majortiy of discussions around here isn't really about it anymore.

This won't fill my 2012 gap. As for toddlers, aren't we all on this site? Granted not all like the toons but a lot like one or more of them.

When I say "35 year toddlers", I mean behaving like a toddler. Irrational arguments, willful ignorance, patheologiacal denial of facts, trying to claim flaws aren't flaws because they're expected, equating entertainment with personal self worth, getting into fights over others peoples negative opinions, claiming victimhood, making up strawmen, pretending people expressed opinions they didn't to discredit them, bragging about pirating movies as if it's some clever way to watch a movie without spending money on it, slander people on other sites to make yourself seem more rational in comparison, acting as if you're always right even if there's evidence against it, etc.

You know, toddlerish behaviour, extreme immaturity. What is known as autism in internet slang.

[newfan]

When I say "35 year toddlers", I mean behaving like a toddler.

Ah, my bad, that's different. I've not been in too many threads with a lot of that.

I'm derailing here so will wrap it up. I suppose it can work either way, you could have those who will get angry and attacking if someone doesn't like some part of what they like and on the other end those who pass the point of criticism and repeatedly troll because they can't let others like something. Luckily we get a lot of middle ground too :)

[Vegita-San]

Eh, I'd "dedicated" is too strong of a word. More like "initially conceived to be about it". It's not exactly easy for a show like that to keep the interests of adults, especially when it got canned 22 years ago, which is why the vast majortiy of discussions around here isn't really about it anymore.

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I'm sure the mods can confirm or deny this theory. I'd hate to have to accuse you of 'autism' ;o). despite the fact that every modern iteration gets compared to the original after 30 years....:).

Maybe the reason no one talks about it much anymore, is because we've pretty much talked about everything associated with it by now to death. all that's left is 'get a life' territory talk.

But I find it's mostly fans of the newer stuff, or original Mirage fans that like to trash the 80s show. and like it or not...that show did save some people's lives...because it helped cheer them up during a bad childhood, or helped them recover during a disease... you don't hear stories like that about the more modern series..

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

you don't hear stories like that about the more modern series..

I wouldn't be surprised if it happened often with the 4 Kids series too. It was more character-based, allowing viewers to relate more to the characters.

I'm not sure with the Nickelodeon series, but most who watched it as children are still children or early teenagers.

[newfan]

I wouldn't be surprised if it happened often with the 4 Kids series too. It was more character-based, allowing viewers to relate more to the characters.

I'm not sure with the Nickelodeon series, but most who watched it as children are still children or early teenagers.

I'm sure many shows from old until new have offered escapism of varying levels.

[neatoman]

I'm sure the mods can confirm or deny this theory. I'd hate to have to accuse you of 'autism' ;o). despite the fact that every modern iteration gets compared to the original after 30 years....:).

Maybe the reason no one talks about it much anymore, is because we've pretty much talked about everything associated with it by now to death. all that's left is 'get a life' territory talk.

But I find it's mostly fans of the newer stuff, or original Mirage fans that like to trash the 80s show. and like it or not...that show did save some people's lives...because it helped cheer them up during a bad childhood, or helped them recover during a disease... you don't hear stories like that about the more modern series..

"Trashing" seems a little harsh as well, the flaws of the show are fairly evident. You can still make an argument for why it's bad without "trashing it". Here's a few:

The animation cut too many corners.
The writing is full of plotholes.
Episodes are too formulaic.
It's a poor adaptation.

None of these are really unfair because you can still argue such points without nitpicking.

As for the stories you mentioned, it's not that I don't believe they're true, I don't think it's a valid argument in regards to the quality. They're just an appeal to emotion. It's like yeah, cool that you had some fun watching it as a kid, it doesn't really change that it's full of bad writing and production errors.

[Vegita-San]

no one is saying that it doesn't have issues. even people who like it can agree it's far from perfect.

It's just the internet tone of how some people describe those issues, or dismiss other ones that makes it feel like 'trashing'...

[Coola Yagami]

All those angry people keep forgetting the show is not for them. Who cares. The next generation of kids will think it's awesome.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

I gave it a 2. Not really sure how I feel about it other than not liking the designs or cheap-looking animation. The voices are okay, I kind of like them- but just not sure that is enough to save this from the trash bin.

[Utrommaniac]

Put the non-action animation on the same level as the action animation, and I'd feel better.

Because I was pretty impressed with how intense what they showed of combat scenes were, more than I was with its predecessor.


I am pretty curious to why one episode is taking place in an arcade. That itself looks interesting.

So I gave it a 2. It just needs some edges sandpapered.

[Metalwolf]

All those angry people keep forgetting the show is not for them.At first. Then the homages and crossovers begin. Later the darker, more 'serious' tone.

This seems to be a thing with all TMNT shows as time goes on. This new show already looks like it has the potential to become dark, especially as we know almost nothing about this new villain and why he is compelled to create mutants.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

I'm looking forward to it. It looks colorful, fun, and different. I'm happy Leo doesn't start as leader, I'm happy we're gettign a new main villain, I'm happy they are going through their young training period with different weapons, learning to be versatile weapon-wise, I'm happy we have a different April, and I'm happy we have new villains front and center in season one, instead of Shredder, Krang, Baxter stockman, and Rat King immediately regurgitated for the millionth time

[ABrown]

I just don't see this being something that I'm gonna get into. But I do hope the kids enjoy it. Good to keep the franchise alive and relevant.

[shihe]

I'm looking forward to it. It looks colorful, fun, and different. I'm happy Leo doesn't start as leader, I'm happy we're gettign a new main villain, I'm happy they are going through their young training period with different weapons, learning to be versatile weapon-wise, I'm happy we have a different April, and I'm happy we have new villains front and center in season one, instead of Shredder, Krang, Baxter stockman, and Rat King immediately regurgitated for the millionth time

My seniments exactly!
If Shredder was unveiled from day 1... How can I take him seriously if he goes 5-6 seasons without defeating the Turtles? Or the other way around too?
IMO he got stale in 2012. Until he killed Splinter twice. But then he mutated... Got revived.... And I felt they dragged him for way too long.

I'm also happy with all the little changes. Can't wait to see how these Turtles develop into full fledged heroes.

[Wildcat]

Didn’t realize there was a trailer.

I’m more excited now. It seems like what I was hoping for. I love the colorful art and tone of the action. Soooooo glad it’s not TMNTGo! but that was debunked with the art reveal and toys.

I really enjoyed the 2012 series but I’m a bit more excited for this because it feels somewhat new. At least different enough to be it’s own version.

[Vivi]

Voice acting - great
Colors - great
Character designs - not great
Supporting Characters - bleh
Nonsense in the background - too much

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Leonardo is Sokka from Avatar: The Last Airbender now? :lol:

[Papenbrook]

Leonardo is Sokka from Avatar: The Last Airbender now? :lol:

What do you mean? How is he like Sokka?

[SwiftNinjaFox]

What do you mean? How is he like Sokka?

His line sounds exactly like a Sokka quote.

"And who doesn't love my one liners, they FIRE up the team, right guys?"

To which said team just looks at him straight faced without an ounce of agreement.

Yet what does goofy, cheesy one liner Sokka develop into by the end of that series? A team leader with a mind for strategy and combat tactics.

[AquaParade]

All those angry people keep forgetting the show is not for them. Who cares. The next generation of kids will think it's awesome.

You're right. Anyone who's outright angry has probably lost sight that this isn't for them. Two caveats though:

- There's definitely a difference between those who are angry and those who know it's not for them, but still want to critique what they think is a poor representation of the franchise. Obviously, you realize this.

- I think when you have adult fans getting angry at a children cartoon, you're seeing a symptom of the root problem, which is "mature tmnt" fans being underserved.
Platinum Dunes tripped and ate ****, and while IDW has done a great job repackaging older books and putting out new ones, it's a niche market and not quite enough to satisfy longtime fans.
If adult TMNT fans had a Netflix series and a quality film to go alongside the comics, it may alleviate the issue.

Of course, you'd still have exceptions. There are always exceptions. I'm just hypothesizing here.

[TMNTmousers]

Looks terrible in my opinion. Bring back the 2012 series

[neatoman]

Looks terrible in my opinion. Bring back the 2012 series

OK but it was getting piss poor rating towards the end of season 4 and continued to get worse in season 5, why make another season of a show nobody was watching? It just makes more sense to start over with a new direction.

[Vegita-San]

OK but it was getting piss poor rating towards the end of season 4 and continued to get worse in season 5, why make another season of a show nobody was watching? It just makes more sense to start over with a new direction.

yeah, people where abandoning the 2012 series after season 3.
either long breaks, or people where just getting tired of it, who knows.


not that i expect this series to do much better. i'll be shocked if it lasts past 3 seeasons.

[newfan]

yeah, people where abandoning the 2012 series after season 3.
either long breaks, or people where just getting tired of it, who knows.


not that i expect this series to do much better. i'll be shocked if it lasts past 3 seeasons.

I'm sure the long breaks didn't help but also with season 5 some dvd's were released prior to airings. The decision to stop was made before season 5 though.
I'm not sure with the new toon, if they air it better and it captures enough kids it should do well.

Also, I know I've asked before but are ratings based on Live TV viewings only? (so no DVR/downloading on sky/catch up etc)

[ZariusTwo]

Soooooo glad it’s not TMNTGo! but that was debunked with the art reveal and toys.

Except it blatantly is.

[IndigoErth]

Agree with what you guys said, the bad schedule, early release of last season eps, AND I'd like to add the fact that after a while the commercials to remind people that it's going to be on or returning from hiatus were few to none, AND where it is on Nick? The regular channel. It got the "privilege" to air a new ep ONCE on the main channel and that's it. Good luck finding a repeat. Want to see any of the show, then you better have Nicktoons and prefer to watch old repeats of a few seasons ago. (Meanwhile the damn Sponge will air multiple times a day on at least three of their channels...)

While Nick may see TMNT as still viable enough to jump this fast into a new series, someone who makes the decisions of when and where their first one aired really could have not cared less.

Will be curious if they treat this one the same after a bit, or if it's aligning itself enough with the Spongebob level of cartoons that it will have the privilege of being around more. Empty calorie shows, so to speak, get the attention these days, while many 'smart' shows get buried...?

[Aaronardo]

I mean, eh. Nickelodeon loves to pluck some of the lowest-hanging jokes from their shows for ads anyway, so it's maybe not accurate to what the show will be like.

Actually stoked on the art style, everything moves pretty well, I like the aesthetic in that it's simplistic but not overly cheap-looking at all. That voice work is interesting though, in that every time a character is supposed to be saying something excitedly, it comes off as a soft-spoken person trying to sound excited. Raph doesn't seem have this problem, but for some reason, Mikey has it the worst. (Compare "it's go time" with the 2012 series, it's underwhelming even without the comparison).

Turtle designs for the most part, again, look pretty bad. But the rest of the look for this show does have me interested. The tone seems interesting enough. Overall I'm slightly more intrigued than I was before, but if the show is 22 minutes of the trailer, I'll pass.

AND where it is on Nick? The regular channel.

Man, if we asked this question for every show Nick has completely abandoned, we'd be here all night.

[Xav]

Except it blatantly is.
I don't see it. It looks more like a standard action cartoon than a straight up parody.

[BabyTurtles]

Except it blatantly is.

I think it's too early to assume that....

Teen Titans Go is kinda like a "what do the Teen Titans do when they aren't fighting bad guys" type of show...which is why they are basically goofing off in every episode. (There is action in the show...but it's random and not serious).

This show already has a villain with goals and the turtles are learning to defend the city. Yea there's going to be comedy, but it still seems like theres going to be stakes and all that.

From what I can tell at least.

[ProphetofGanja]

Except it blatantly is.

It really doesn't seem to be

[Shark_Blade]

I think it's too early to assume that....

Teen Titans Go is kinda like a "what do the Teen Titans do when they aren't fighting bad guys" type of show...which is why they are basically goofing off in every episode. (There is action in the show...but it's random and not serious).

This show already has a villain with goals and the turtles are learning to defend the city. Yea there's going to be comedy, but it still seems like theres going to be stakes and all that.

For what I can tell at least.

I feel the same. Teen Titans Go doesn’t really have a threat, they’re just there for light jokes and giggles.

I’m really intrigued by this show’s new April. The way she slides toward the screen, is she in anyway martial art proficient? And her toy has her glasses pushed up on top of her hair... so she does not really need them? Kinda like Persona 5 protagonist - only wear glasses for fashion/fun/to fit in with society (“https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/835628-persona-5/75227956”)?

Ah, so many questions. :tlove:

[Electric_Seaweed]

I was initially disappointed with the new look, but seeing it in action, I totally dig it!

Simple or "Cheap" Design = more dynamic action. Its a great tradeoff for a cartoon.

[Papenbrook]

Here's the trailer:

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Oof! I'm already seeing a huge amount of dislikes on that video.

Now I'm wondering what the general reception is.

[Wildcat]

I don't see it. It looks more like a standard action cartoon than a straight up parody.Yup not TMNTGo. Like the others said...the characters look to have an overall purpose.

Anyone seriously comparing it to TTGo is trolling or has never actually seen TTGo.

[Chris]

I'm still not the greatest fan of the designs but it looks fun enough.

I'll certainly give it a try and see if I like it. The last 2 shows have been pretty faithful overall so it could be interesting to see something a bit different.

[Shark_Blade]

Yup not TMNTGo. Like the others said...the characters look to have an overall purpose.

Anyone seriously comparing it to TTGo is trolling or has never actually seen TTGo.

Yep it actually looks closer to Ducktales and Gravity Falls imo. And those shows are good visually, have charming characters, intelligent mysteries and storytelling.

I’m cautiously optimistic rottmnt is gonna be as good, maybe even better than them. :D For sure rottmnt gonna focus on the action more.

[Kit31]

Agree with what you guys said, the bad schedule, early release of last season eps, AND I'd like to add the fact that after a while the commercials to remind people that it's going to be on or returning from hiatus were few to none, AND where it is on Nick? The regular channel. It got the "privilege" to air a new ep ONCE on the main channel and that's it. Good luck finding a repeat. Want to see any of the show, then you better have Nicktoons and prefer to watch old repeats of a few seasons ago. (Meanwhile the damn Sponge will air multiple times a day on at least three of their channels...)

While Nick may see TMNT as still viable enough to jump this fast into a new series, someone who makes the decisions of when and where their first one aired really could have not cared less.

Will be curious if they treat this one the same after a bit, or if it's aligning itself enough with the Spongebob level of cartoons that it will have the privilege of being around more. Empty calorie shows, so to speak, get the attention these days, while many 'smart' shows get buried...?

Boy, I couldn't agree with you more on all of this. I'd specifically like to point out that Nickelodeon fooled around too long in airing season 4 - almost a year and a half to complete it. Season 5 had many reasons for the series tanking in ratings, but the handling of new episodes had to be one of the biggest ones. The other thing I'd like to point out (which Indigo touched on) is shows that are more mature, better written, and have potentially darker tones don't seem to fit in with most of Nick's other shows. That's why they get abandoned or thrown onto their sister station without so much as a word about it on the network.

I was incredibly disappointed in the treatment of Korra in the last two seasons. I'm not sure if Nick's decision to move it to Nicktoons/online only had to do with season 2 being extremely dark for a kids show or not. TMNT got away with a hell of a lot for being on a kids' network. The only more mature show that seemed to be given the treatment it rightfully deserved was Avatar: The Last Airbender. Great show, dark at times but not overly so, but still more mature than most of their shows on there. And it STAYED on the parent network in its entirety.

That being said, the only shows that Nick really pay attention to are Fairly Oddparents and Spongebob. If you're neither of those, then prepare to get pushed aside in a year or two after debuting. :tgrumble: However, the only real show that is on Nick's radar full-time is Spongebob. :tgrumble::tgrumble::tgrumble: Butch Hartman said FO was cancelled five or six times during its run. So yeah, SB lives on for some unknown reason to me. I've grown to despise that show over the years and I even liked it for the first few seasons.

[CyberCubed]

Ratings don't matter much anymore, most kids watch the show online. Or older fans, like me for example. I didn't get to watch the Nick show live as it aired because it came on at a time I wasn't able to watch it. So I just watched all the eps online instead the same day. Obviously online streams don't count as ratings, so it doesn't matter.

I'm sure when Rise starts the ratings won't be much different than the previous show. And that's because it really doesn't matter, we're not in 2005 anymore when people sit in front of a TV at a designated time to watch shows with commercials.

[shredder orokusaki]

Of course this show is silly like the 80s toon, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

My hype level is off the charts, cowabunga!

No it will notbe silly like the 80 show. I will be a serial killer again like iwas in 2003 and 2012 shows and will be beating my enemies very hard. Rocksteady and Bebop will be very strong and not stupid like they were in 1987. Krang robotic body will not wear red underwear and sunglasses like in 1987... If you think this will be anything similar to 1987 show then prepare to be dissapointed! A show like that cant be success today. Only something like the 2003 and the 2012 can.

[newfan]

Ratings don't matter much anymore, most kids watch the show online. Or older fans, like me for example. I didn't get to watch the Nick show live as it aired because it came on at a time I wasn't able to watch it. So I just watched all the eps online instead the same day. Obviously online streams don't count as ratings, so it doesn't matter.

I'm sure when Rise starts the ratings won't be much different than the previous show. And that's because it really doesn't matter, we're not in 2005 anymore when people sit in front of a TV at a designated time to watch shows with commercials.

If they only count live TV still then they aren't giving a true picture of ratings, but still they do judge by ratings, or so it seems so when people keep taking about ratings being in the toilet.

[CyberCubed]

Ratings for any show go down when it airs multiple seasons, this is nothing new.

[Teddy]

Omg, this looks terrible. What have they done??

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

The problem is that even if the writing is fantastic, which I doubt it will be, it'll still be uglier than a dog turd.

[Papenbrook]

Now that I think about it, the animation seems reminiscent of South Park's animation.

[Shark_Blade]

Ratings for any show go down when it airs multiple seasons, this is nothing new.

Not for Spongebob.

[CyberCubed]

Not for Spongebob.

Are they not lower now than they were 10-15 years ago? I'm sure they are.

[newfan]

But do they take into account something being aired much over something not as much (or so I think this is the case anyway)?
They also have years of episodes of SpongeBob to air I suppose.
Maybe they will air these shorter, more kid friendly TMNT eps more. (I mean not just in the start)

Saying that, with things like on Demand or whatever TV package you have (plus on-line) live TV would be viewed less anyway.

[IndigoErth]

I think the Sponge simply figured out that if you're on tv constantly, multiple times in a row every day, then you'll get decent ratings by default from anyone just flipping through channels for cartoons and happens to just stop hunting when they hit Nick. :trazz:

Are they necessarily actively watching it that closely though is another matter... It may just be background noise half of the time.