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Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
04-03-2018, 01:53 PM
In the original series, were April O'Neil's and Irma's apartments inside the same building? Or just similair-looking buildings?

oldmanwinters
04-03-2018, 02:03 PM
In the original series, were April O'Neil's and Irma's apartments inside the same building? Or just similair-looking buildings?

I always assumed they were. I thought Irma made a reference to their common landlord in "The Cat Woman from Channel Six."

Come to think of it, did any episode show us the inside of Irma's apartment? Let's hope she's a real person and not just some robot shell. :tlol:

neatoman
04-03-2018, 02:13 PM
Maybe April just kept Irma in the closet?

oldmanwinters
04-03-2018, 02:24 PM
Here's a look at the concept drawing for April's apartment and building that was published in a Japanese exclusive encyclopedia in the mid-1990s. Sadly, no reference to Irma's apartment, from what I can tell:
http://i.imgur.com/jA6Ktg3l.jpg?1 (https://imgur.com/jA6Ktg3)

Utrommaniac
04-03-2018, 02:28 PM
I like to think they could have been roommates.

(Which they would be in my take, since they wouldn't be coworkers)

CyberCubed
04-03-2018, 02:52 PM
I don't think they lived together, we see April in her apartment several times and Irma isn't there.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
04-03-2018, 03:24 PM
I always assumed they were. I thought Irma made a reference to their common landlord in "The Cat Woman from Channel Six."

Come to think of it, did any episode show us the inside of Irma's apartment? Let's hope she's a real person and not just some robot shell. :tlol:

Yes, like "Four Musketurtles" and "Donatello's Degree". I've always known they lived in different apartments, I'm but not sure if it was iside the same building o not.

Coola Yagami
04-03-2018, 03:25 PM
Wasn't there an episode where Bebop and Rocksteady busted into Irma's apartment and kidnapped her? Like they were after April and got into Irma's place instead and decided to roll with it. I'm pretty sure it was implied they lived in the same apartment complex.

AlZarkovski
04-03-2018, 03:51 PM
Yes, Irma and April are neighbors. After April's apartment was destroyed in the episode "A Thing About Rats", Irma obviously offered her an apartment next to her. In the episode "The Catwoman from Channel Six" we see how Irma emerges from the next door. Irma's apartment can be seen in the episode "The Turtle Terminator." She and Irma live on the 2nd floor at West Side, 13th Street, house 1/10 (in reality such an address does not exist).

oldmanwinters
04-03-2018, 04:02 PM
Yes, Irma and April are neighbors. After April's apartment was destroyed in the episode "A Thing About Rats", Irma obviously offered her an apartment next to her. In the episode "The Catwoman from Channel Six" we see how Irma emerges from the next door. Irma's apartment can be seen in the episode "The Turtle Terminator." She and Irma live on the 2nd floor at West Side, 13th Street, house 1/10 (in reality such an address does not exist).

Nice job! You covered it all!

Powder
04-03-2018, 08:12 PM
You gotta love the level of dedication & amount of insight certain fans have for TMNT. :)

Shark_Blade
04-03-2018, 09:27 PM
Here's a look at the concept drawing for April's apartment and building that was published in a Japanese exclusive encyclopedia in the mid-1990s. Sadly, no reference to Irma's apartment, from what I can tell:
http://i.imgur.com/jA6Ktg3l.jpg?1 (https://imgur.com/jA6Ktg3)

I mean wow this encyclopaedia should be available worldwide, not just Japan. Reprint cause this book must’ve cost a fortune now.

Also why we never have any art book for tmnt? Korra, Steven universe etc got it. Fine, the Nick one is rumoured to be coming but 2k3, 2k7, OT? I have the Visual History but it’s too short I want more focused specific series.

Shiro Kame
04-04-2018, 08:42 AM
Wasn't there an episode where Bebop and Rocksteady busted into Irma's apartment and kidnapped her? Like they were after April and got into Irma's place instead and decided to roll with it. I'm pretty sure it was implied they lived in the same apartment complex.

Makes sense. :tgrin:

oldmanwinters
04-04-2018, 08:49 AM
I mean wow this encyclopaedia should be available worldwide, not just Japan. Reprint cause this book must’ve cost a fortune now.

Nah, it typically sells for around $40, when you can find it online. It's the Kodansha Encyclopedia #91 and 100% TMNT themed. Unfortunately, it isn't completely dedicated to concept art, but mixes in a little bit a everything popular about the franchise in the mid-1990s:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/22047800@N07/21543147018/in/dateposted/

EDIT:
Added a couple more scans to my Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/22047800@N07/41188961282/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/22047800@N07/41189456472/in/dateposted/

Shark_Blade
04-04-2018, 07:52 PM
Thanks for sharing! :D Very fascinating indeed.

pferreira
04-05-2018, 02:44 PM
Yes, Irma and April are neighbors. After April's apartment was destroyed in the episode "A Thing About Rats", Irma obviously offered her an apartment next to her. In the episode "The Catwoman from Channel Six" we see how Irma emerges from the next door. Irma's apartment can be seen in the episode "The Turtle Terminator." She and Irma live on the 2nd floor at West Side, 13th Street, house 1/10 (in reality such an address does not exist).Oh thanks that's real helpful info. :)

ryukenden
04-09-2018, 05:25 AM
I’m sure they lived in the same complex. I wouldn’t be surprised if they ever were roommates since I’m sure rent in NYC wasn’t exactly cheap in the 80s.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
04-09-2018, 12:16 PM
I’m sure they lived in the same complex. I wouldn’t be surprised if they ever were roommates since I’m sure rent in NYC wasn’t exactly cheap in the 80s.

There's no doubt they lived in different apartments. For example, Irma's apartment didn't have a lot of cat paintings on the walls.

Utrommaniac
04-09-2018, 01:08 PM
Or a picture toaster for some reason

oldmanwinters
04-09-2018, 01:37 PM
Or a picture toaster for some reason

Haha, that was from the building that got demolished by the Mousers. I'm assuming nobody else was at home, since only the TMNT, April, and Splinter were seen making it safely outside.

There's no doubt they lived in different apartments. For example, Irma's apartment didn't have a lot of cat paintings on the walls.

I always wondered about if those cat paintings were chosen specifically for the apartment since April was going to mutate into a catwoman in the 2nd season, or if it was just a coincidence.

FredWolfLeonardo
04-09-2018, 01:51 PM
April's cat obsession probably caused her to put those paintings up in the first place off screen. I don't think we ever see them again after The CatWoman from Channel Six.

oldmanwinters
04-09-2018, 04:12 PM
I don't think we ever see them again after The CatWoman from Channel Six.

Oh, yeah, they are always in the shots of her apartments, even seen in the "Divide and Conquer" finale"
http://i.imgur.com/M9Pf28D.jpg (https://imgur.com/M9Pf28D)
http://i.imgur.com/4uXy90P.jpg (https://imgur.com/4uXy90P)

FredWolfLeonardo
04-09-2018, 04:27 PM
Oh my, looks like April's cat obsession was much bigger than we thought!

oldmanwinters
04-09-2018, 04:36 PM
Oh my, looks like April's cat obsession was much bigger than we thought!

Or the Fred Wolf studio didn't feel like drawing up new background model sheets. :tlol:

pferreira
04-12-2018, 02:25 PM
Or the Fred Wolf studio didn't feel like drawing up new background model sheets. :tlol:Probably the same reason the Turtles lair has the same decor. :lol:

oldmanwinters
04-12-2018, 02:48 PM
Probably the same reason the Turtles lair has the same decor. :lol:

At least the Turtles used an alternate lair in season 2. I'm very curious how that was planned by the animation studio. Seasons 3-10 feature the same lair as season 1. April's 2nd apartment and building is introduced in season 2 and constant until the end of the series. But what was the logic of using a completely different sewer lair design for season 2? And did they even bother to make concept art for it or was it just generic space?

pferreira
04-12-2018, 04:42 PM
At least the Turtles used an alternate lair in season 2. I'm very curious how that was planned by the animation studio. Seasons 3-10 feature the same lair as season 1. April's 2nd apartment and building is introduced in season 2 and constant until the end of the series. But what was the logic of using a completely different sewer lair design for season 2? And did they even bother to make concept art for it or was it just generic space?They did? I need to rewatch Season 2 again. Had no idea.