Police respond to an active shooter at the YouTube headquarters

[TurtleWA]

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/police-respond-active-shooter-youtubes-california-headquarters-203203401--abc-news-topstories.html

“Police are responding to an active shooter at the YouTube headquarters in California's Bay Area, authorities say, cautioning people to stay away.”

[Autbot_Benz]

The Shooter has been detained and the shooter was female. Reports are saying

[plastroncafe]

https://twitter.com/Iron_Spike/status/981279263352610816?s=19

Some good advice here.

Fingers crossed no one got hurt.

[TigerClaw]

The Shooter has been detained and the shooter was female. Reports are saying
They are saying the female shooter is dead.

[Andrew NDB]

The Shooter has been detained and the shooter was female. Reports are saying

This doesn't make any sense. This isn't a male and isn't even white.

[Autbot_Benz]

The Shooter was a Youtube content creator and was getting upset about her videos getting de monitized

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Suspect-in-You-Tube-Shooting-Posted-Rants-About-the-Company-Online--478711713.html

I have seen how badly Youtube screws content creators and what not so this doesn't surprise me.

[mrmaczaps]

Very interesting....

So not a male, not white, not the NRA, in a gun free zone inside a basically gun free state (3rd highest gun control laws in the nation).... oh and not an ar15....

And she killed herself when confronted...

[plastroncafe]

I'm really extra interested in her case, because she's such an outlier in almost every respect.

And especially so because this was apparently over a business decision, and not a domestic dispute as was originally reported.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm really extra interested in her case, because she's such an outlier in almost every respect.

And especially so because this was apparently over a business decision, and not a domestic dispute as was originally reported.

Yeah, it's definitely unique.

First thought was it was some angry commenter coming home to roost.

Then we found out she was a woman, so "domestic."

Quite different.

[The Deadman]

Very interesting....

So not a male, not white, not the NRA, in a gun free zone inside a basically gun free state (3rd highest gun control laws in the nation).... oh and not an ar15....

And she killed herself when confronted...

Destroys the narrative, doesnt it.

[Andrew NDB]

You can check out her website here: www.nasimesabz.com

She's pretty detailed in exactly what her problem is there. Just scroll down.

[Vegita-San]

Destroys the narrative, doesnt it.

yep. not white,or a male... so i guess the news networks don't cover it, or at least not wall to wall coverage.

What's sadly goofy was that just hours before, there was a hashtag 'love a muslim' going around twitter that vanished rather fast as soon as the name was announced.

What I didn't know was that California has some of the stricter gun laws around. Banning automatic rifles may not solve ALL violence problems, but it should keep the mass death down dramatically. stupid NRA.

oh, and in other news..all those kids that thought they could make a living off of youtube ad revenue for life. time to get a real job kiddos and actually do some work.

[Andrew NDB]

Banning automatic rifles may not solve ALL violence problems, but it should keep the mass death down dramatically.

Automatic weapons have been banned since 1986.

[Vegita-San]

Automatic weapons have been banned since 1986.

whoops, my bad. semi automatic.

[Andrew NDB]

whoops, my bad. semi automatic.

That's most pistols.

[plastroncafe]

The whole topic of narratives is pretty interesting, and statement from the trauma surgeon attending has gotten a little media play.

http://wtvr.com/2018/04/03/trauma-surgeon-in-youtube-shooting-vents-frustration-over-continuing-gun-violence/

Campbell said gun violence is a problem in the United States that needs to be addressed. He also chided the media for not paying attention to other instances of gun violence.

“Gun violence happens every day throughout the United States. It happens here in San Francisco. It happens in the Bay Area. It happens all over the country,” Campbell said. “But I don’t see you guys out here, because I’d like to make sure that people know that we got a serious problem that we need to address.”

[Andrew NDB]

I'm having trouble finding any stories saying conclusively that the shooter is dead. Are we sure she's dead?

[TurtleWA]

I only ever hear bad things about YouTube. I wonder if this incident could have been avoided if content creators had more support such as a union? I recently heard about the internet creators guild. I’m curious if the shooter had contacted them for any type of support.

[Andrew NDB]

I only ever hear bad things about YouTube. I wonder if this incident could have been avoided if content creators had more support such as a union? I recently heard about the internet creators guild. I’m curious if the shooter had contacted them for any type of support.

I actually had no idea Youtube de-monetized "smaller" channels until this. That's really sheisty, and even more lofty is the rationale they give as to why.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I actually had no idea Youtube de-monetized "smaller" channels until this. That's really sheisty, and even more lofty is the rationale they give as to why.

Yeah, they raised the number of views or followers or whatever you have to have to get paid. I remember hearing about that awhile back...

[TurtleWA]

I actually had no idea Youtube de-monetized "smaller" channels until this. That's really sheisty, and even more lofty is the rationale they give as to why.

I haven’t read any details about the shooters particular situation with being de-monetized or reasons given by Youtube. I’d be interested to know though.

I’ve heard complaints about YouTube business practices from folks with over 200,000 subscribers. So it’s the medium size guys too that are feeling the dissatisfaction.

[Jester]

Yep, youtube removed monetization for channels with under 1000 subscribers and less than 4000 hours of view time on their channel in 12 months...myself included. (Not that I saw any money or many of my videos could earn money anyway.)

[Papenbrook]

We need to ban all guns. From everyone.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Yep, youtube removed monetization for channels with under 1000 subscribers and less than 4000 hours of view time on their channel in 12 months...myself included. (Not that I saw any money or many of my videos could earn money anyway.)

This was a fairly recent change, too, wasn't it? Within the last 6 months?

[Sumac]

We need to ban all guns. From everyone.
How about no?

[Andrew NDB]

How about f*** no? And "good luck"?

[Papenbrook]

The United States and its contemporaries are currently dragging the rest of the world to World War III, regardless of circumstance.

So why not?

[TurtleWA]

We need to ban all guns. From everyone.

What for? Murder is already banned and that doesn’t stop anything.

[Andrew NDB]

London (where guns are banned) overtakes New York for murder rates as stabbings surge:

https://steemit.com/informationwar/@wakeupnd/time-for-the-uk-to-ban-knives-london-murder-rate-overtakes-new-york-as-stabbings-surge

Now the UK is looking at banning knives...

[Allio]

We need to ban all guns. From everyone.

Won't do any good. two big problems

1) Humans will find a way to kill one another with or without a gun. We will go back to kungfu fighting on the streets if we will.

2) It won't stop the bad people from getting the guns illegally. The people we don't want guns will find a way to get the guns and the price of guns on black market will sky rocket and those wanting guns will be more desperate for money to pay for said guns.

[Autbot_Benz]

I am for gun control but saying we need to ban all guns is never going to happen and should never happen

[Vegita-San]

That's most pistols.

I actually am for banning all fire arms. they are not needed to get b y in life.


but, as has been pointed out, there are other ways to injure people. so that won't help

[Vegita-San]

Yep, youtube removed monetization for channels with under 1000 subscribers and less than 4000 hours of view time on their channel in 12 months...myself included. (Not that I saw any money or many of my videos could earn money anyway.)

I get about one check every 5 months or so from them for $100's for my main youtube channel. and thanks to a few of the CGI videos, the views are actually increasing.

I wouldn't be so stupid as to th ink i could actually make a living off of the service though. would be nice for retirement though. i'd be happy with $1,000 a month then heh.

[Andrew NDB]

I actually am for banning all fire arms. they are not needed to get b y in life.

Until the day that they are. There's plenty of other countries out there where having them is not a right... plenty of options.

I get about one check every 5 months or so from them for $100's for my main youtube channel. and thanks to a few of the CGI videos, the views are actually increasing.

I have over 1,000 subscribers on Youtube but I've never seen one cent from them. I don't think I ever set it up to get money, though.

[Papenbrook]

Until the day that they are.

Which is?

... I heavily doubt that there is going to be some mass governmental takeover in the future.

[Andrew NDB]

Which is?

When someone breaks into your house. When there's a riot. If foreign invaders come. If domestic tyranny ever becomes a thing, on a small or larger scale.

[Sumac]

The United States and its contemporaries are currently dragging the rest of the world to World War III, regardless of circumstance.

So why not?
Because, of people owning guns?
What the **** is that logic? :o

[plastroncafe]

... We will go back to kungfu fighting on the streets if we will.



Why are we discounting this as an AWESOME alternative to firearms?
Because this sounds amazing to me!

[sdp]

I get to meet people from all over the world and thanks to knowing more than one language I read news from national newspapers from different countries.

The rest of the world thinks the US has a big gun problem but I guess you guys can debate if it really is true or not.

[Refractive Reflections]

U0nomuT4FFc

The United States and its contemporaries are currently dragging the rest of the world to World War III, regardless of circumstance.

So why not?

It's the culture more so than the current gun laws. If you can believe it, there were shooting clubs back in New York City high schools until 1969. (https://nypost.com/2018/03/31/when-toting-guns-in-high-school-was-cool/) So it begs the question as to what's different? One strong possibility is the overwhelming culture of narcissism to the point that now some people are willing to be well-known for infamy, rather than being an upright person that no one will ever know about or, frankly, not care about. ...And thanks to the cultural addiction of social media, that psychological craving for attention is even greater.

PgwluZdJwpo

One topic that seems to get swept under the rug is law enforcement/government incompetence. Like with Parkland (https://i.redd.it/6p0wmo0y8jj01.png), and the incompetence of the Air Force to submit the gun man's criminal history to the FBI in the Texas church shooting last November (http://www.businessinsider.com/texas-church-shooting-victims-hard-time-suing-government-air-force-2017-11), and now this...
So because the government isn't doing it's job, everyone else's freedoms have to be restricted?

It won't be too surprising now, if soon a call for all knives should be banned considering how terrorists are improvising their attacks:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/07/several-injured-vienna-knife-attack/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hengshao/2014/03/01/27-dead-in-violent-knife-attack-in-kunming-china/#1abadcee6235

[Sumac]

Social Media has brought worst in people - culture of fragility and narcissism.
Every weirdo and freak received platform, which led to this sorry state of informational field we have now.

Everyone thinks that they are "super awesome special" and if you dare not to aknowledge them as such, they either go crazy or call you names..

[PApagreg]

U0nomuT4FFc



It's the culture more so than the current gun laws. If you can believe it, there were shooting clubs back in New York City high schools until 1969. (https://nypost.com/2018/03/31/when-toting-guns-in-high-school-was-cool/) So it begs the question as to what's different? One strong possibility is the overwhelming culture of narcissism to the point that now some people are willing to be well-known for infamy, rather than being an upright person that no one will ever know about or, frankly, not care about. ...And thanks to the cultural addiction of social media, that psychological craving for attention is even greater.

PgwluZdJwpo

One topic that seems to get swept under the rug is law enforcement/government incompetence. Like with Parkland (https://i.redd.it/6p0wmo0y8jj01.png), and the incompetence of the Air Force to submit the gun man's criminal history to the FBI in the Texas church shooting last November (http://www.businessinsider.com/texas-church-shooting-victims-hard-time-suing-government-air-force-2017-11), and now this...
So because the government isn't doing it's job, everyone else's freedoms have to be restricted?

It won't be too surprising now, if soon a call for all knives should be banned considering how terrorists are improvising their attacks:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/07/several-injured-vienna-knife-attack/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hengshao/2014/03/01/27-dead-in-violent-knife-attack-in-kunming-china/#1abadcee6235

Except that humanity in general have been narcissistic and done ****ed up things in the past to gain attention also going to knives attack, people do have a higher percentage of surviving that than a mass shooting.

[plastroncafe]

Social Media is the great EVIL, says guy who makes money off of being controversial on social media.

[Andrew NDB]

https://media.giphy.com/media/ygqMjv2x8KSxW/giphy.gif

[Autbot_Benz]

Social Media is the great EVIL, says guy who makes money off of being controversial on social media.


ya InfoWars conspiracy theorist guy a name you can trust



https://i.imgur.com/6JDIUnD.gif

[Jester]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/fa6bf01480cca30fdc8319d2b0febb6c/tenor.gif?itemid=7527546

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Remember, folks...

They turned the frickin' frogs gay.

[Sumac]

Except that humanity in general have been narcissistic and done ****ed up things in the past to gain attention also going to knives attack, people do have a higher percentage of surviving that than a mass shooting.
Before the age of Social Media, those idiots could not advertise themselves.

[TurtleWA]

I don’t think the social media aspect of this particular instance factors in at all. Employers always have employees that get upset because of business decisions. Also people feel abused by big corporations often, and hate these corporations. None of this is new. The shooter could have been a past employee at the post office or a Kentucky Fried Chicken. And that would have been the scene of the crime and not YouTube.

[Prowler]

A shooting in USA? This is news?

[Vegita-San]

Everyone thinks that they are "super awesome special" and if you dare not to aknowledge them as such, they either go crazy or call you names..

did you know i'm apparently a woman hater? I also don't know what the hell i'm talking about. and haven't posted an honest, unbiased take on anything yet either.

boy, the things you find out about yourself when you post on the internet. thanks net, I never knew! --- this is sarcasm. google it.

[Andrew NDB]

http://www.highlander-community.com/meme.jpg

It's true (I don't know about the mentally ill part, though). It's kinda like it never even happened.

Also, it looks like someone knocked out her actual website that was at www.nasimesabz.com. I get Youtube pulling her videos... but how and why did anyone take her website down? I'm sure it was still paid out for the month. Odd.

I looked up the WHOIS details for the now-shut down website here:
https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=www.nasimesabz.com

It looks like it was a standard domain with a server run by Yahoo. Yahoo doesn't have any affiliation with Google or Youtube... so what's going on here?

[PApagreg]

http://www.highlander-community.com/meme.jpg

It's true (I don't know about the mentally ill part, though). It's kinda like it never even happened.

Also, it looks like someone knocked out her actual website that was at www.nasimesabz.com. I get Youtube pulling her videos... but how and why did anyone take her website down? I'm sure it was still paid out for the month. Odd.

I looked up the WHOIS details for the now-shut down website here:
https://whois.icann.org/en/lookup?name=www.nasimesabz.com

It looks like it was a standard domain with a server run by Yahoo. Yahoo doesn't have any affiliation with Google or Youtube... so what's going on here?
You know I just did a quick google searched on the 'Youtube Shooter" and I found out that CNN was still doing the story. Also I don't know how to tell you this but new coverage don't really stick to mass shootings with a low bodycount because there isn't much to talk about.

[Redeemer]

You know I just did a quick google searched on the 'Youtube Shooter" and I found out that CNN was still doing the story. Also I don't know how to tell you this but new coverage don't really stick to mass shootings with a low bodycount because there isn't much to talk about.

I have been pretty disappointed by the lack of news coverage on this incident. It gives credence to the idea that certain media organizations do not wish to cover the event bc it goes against the narrative they are trying to push and I feel like this is quite true to a degree.

But I think Papagreg may be on to something about a lack of casualties (thankfully) may be the reason why it has not seen the same amount of coverage as other shooting events.

But I know of a couple other incidents with similar numbers receiving far more media coverage than this one.

[TurtleWA]

It’s sad that the number of casualties determines the amount of coverage a story gets. But you would think being such a unique circumstance that it would get more coverage. It’s news worthy in that the shooter is female, 39 years old, vegan and a PETA supporter. I think the 2015 San Bernardino attack was the last time a female was involved.

One of the strange things to me is that when I think of someone that is a vegan, has exercise videos and cares about animals. I think this person respects and values life. They know the importance of health and caring for those that are vulnerable. So it is very weird that they would go and shoot people. It’s almost like the opposite of everything they allegedly stood for.

[sdp]

Can we get a general US shootings thread? They're clogging up the forum

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Can we get a general US shootings thread? They're clogging up the forum

Agreed. Just like the Sexual Allegations thread.

[PApagreg]

It’s news worthy in that the shooter is female, 39 years old, vegan and a PETA supporter. I think the 2015 San Bernardino attack was the last time a female was involved.

I mean not really, its not like she was killing people for animal rights or something. She was attacking youtube because they demonetize her videos, also she was kinda crazy.

[TurtleWA]

I mean not really, its not like she was killing people for animal rights or something. She was attacking youtube because they demonetize her videos, also she was kinda crazy.

It’s just that I would think if someone cared about innocent lives it wouldn’t matter if animal or human. It’s not like the shooter had a specific target of the CEO or anything. The shooter pretty much shows by her video history and recent actions that she values money and animals over people. But I’m realizing maybe I shouldn’t try to understand these types of things, useless effort perhaps.

[mrmaczaps]

Peta now has more members that have killed people than the NRA...

Even if it was just herself....

[Andrew NDB]

Peta now has more members that have killed people than the NRA...

Even if it was just herself....

You mean the NRA doesn't have "blood on its hands" over this, too?

[PApagreg]

Peta now has more members that have killed people than the NRA...

Even if it was just herself....
1. She was a Peta supporter not a member
2. Can I have a source for that.

[Andrew NDB]

2. Can I have a source for that.

https://www.quora.com/Of-the-last-mass-shootings-in-the-US-how-many-shooters-were-known-to-be-NRA-members-and-how-many-of-the-weapons-used-were-legally-owned-by-the-shooters

[Mayhem]

Yeah was going to say, knowing whether any of them were actually NRA members I imagine is almost impossible to know. Legally held weapons, yep... most of them are.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah was going to say, knowing whether any of them were actually NRA members I imagine is almost impossible to know.

What? That's like the easiest thing to know, if inquired. They actually have a database and membership. This isn't like some nebulous thing. I've heard of 0 cases where it has been "We have been unable to determine if this individual is part of our organization."

[plastroncafe]

I don't really think it's impossible to know whether or not someone is a member of the NRA. They keep records of that..
And I'm sure the records for that are different than the records of people who just get their newsletter.

The same is true for any such organization, be it the NRA, PeTA, or the ACLU.

[PApagreg]

https://www.quora.com/Of-the-last-mass-shootings-in-the-US-how-many-shooters-were-known-to-be-NRA-members-and-how-many-of-the-weapons-used-were-legally-owned-by-the-shooters

Doesn't tell me that Peta has members that killed more people than the NRA

[mrmaczaps]

Yeah was going to say, knowing whether any of them were actually NRA members I imagine is almost impossible to know. Legally held weapons, yep... most of them are.

NRA members get cool little cards... And tshirts and jackets and hats... And would be Front Page News if any of the shooters had had products from them... even if they weren't actually members.

So far, the only "shooter" that was an NRA member was the good guy with a gun that lived next door to that church where a ton of people were murdered. Using an AR15. Not a full auto. Also not an "assault rifle".

[Mayhem]

What? That's like the easiest thing to know, if inquired. They actually have a database and membership. This isn't like some nebulous thing. I've heard of 0 cases where it has been "We have been unable to determine if this individual is part of our organization."
That is readily accessible and queried by anyone, not just the NRA?

Reporter: So... was <insert name of shooter> a member of the NRA?
NRA: <Silence>

That's what I meant...

[Refractive Reflections]

Remember, folks...

They turned the frickin' frogs gay.

nBbkwlGM7X0

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Saw this, had to post it... :tlol:

https://i.imgur.com/wHztVhZ.jpg

[Metalwolf]

One of the strange things to me is that when I think of someone that is a vegan, has exercise videos and cares about animals. I think this person respects and values life. They know the importance of health and caring for those that are vulnerable. So it is very weird that they would go and shoot people. It’s almost like the opposite of everything they allegedly stood for.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/killing-animals-petas-open-secret_us_59e78243e4b0e60c4aa36711

'On October 18, 2014, two employees of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals drove their van to the small community of Parksley, Virginia. Parksley is an out of the way rural town of less than 1,000 people. The destination of the PETA van was a trailer park located there, made up largely of poor, Spanish speaking immigrants. The park is described by a local resident as “difficult to find unless you know where you are going.” The PETA employees knew exactly where they were going because they had been there before.

Over several weeks, PETA representatives had been visiting the trailer park and befriending the residents. They got to know who lived where and who had dogs and cats. They sat with the families on their porches, talking to them, offering biscuits to the dogs, promoting vaccinations, sterilization, and other PETA services. One of the families they spent time with had a three year old Chihuahua named Maya, a happy, healthy, and beloved dog. And on October 18, her home was one of the houses PETA set out to visit. This time, however, they were not there to talk to the family or any of the other residents or to offer any kind of assistance. In fact, they knew the family was not home.

The PETA employees backed their van up to the porch and threw biscuits to Maya, who was sitting on her porch, hoping to coax her off her property and give PETA the ability to claim she was a stray dog “at large” whom they could therefore legally impound. In Virginia, PETA is licensed as an “animal shelter.” But Maya refused to stay off the property and after grabbing the biscuit, ran back to the safety of her porch. One of the employees went onto the property and stole Maya. But larceny wasn’t the only law the PETA employees would break. Virginia law requires dogs to be held for five days before they can be killed by shelters. It also requires private shelters like PETA to notify the municipal animal control shelter of any “stray” dogs they take in. PETA would do neither. Within hours, Maya was dead. PETA had killed her with a lethal dose of poison.

Maya’s family ultimately sued PETA. Last month, after arguing and losing pre-trial motions that Maya was worthless and facing the specter of PETA administrators being forced to turn over records and testify under oath about their inner workings — particularly, their campaign of animal extermination — PETA settled the case by paying Maya’s family $49,000.

Tragically, Maya was not the only animal they killed that year. In 2014, PETA killed 2,324 of the 2,626 animals it acquired, including Maya. It had a 1% adoption rate. In 2015, it killed another 1,494. Last year, 1,442 were put to death. The majority of the remainder were taken to local pounds where they were killed. '

Just because they say they are for animals and are vegans, doesn't mean anything. PETA is notorious for killing animals, yet they are the most loudly veganist and animal rights group one can think of.