London mayor calling for knife control

[Andrew NDB]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/29179/londons-mayor-declares-intense-new-knife-control-emily-zanotti

Yikes. This is where it goes.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Wow. I really thought "knife control" was just fear mongering hyperbole...

[oldmanwinters]

I'll never surrender my pocket knife!

(Except for that one time when I wanted to go inside the Statue of Liberty and I had to hide it in the bushes on the grounds.)

[Powder]

Better hope you don't get caught with a new box of crayons out there.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Better hope you don't get caught with a new box of crayons out there.

No kidding. This is why I can't take my toenail clippers on a commercial flight anymore. Or toothpaste.

[Sumac]

Next logical step would be to implement toothpicks control and ban forks.

This idiots fighting the consequences not the cause.

[plastroncafe]

In their defense, with all the Brexit and Austerity there's only so much in the way of resources going around.

Good thing Thoughts and Prayers from higher ups are so inexpensive.

[Vegita-San]

where is the invention of the personal force field?

this will solve all our problems.

smh.

[newfan]

I was reading news on all the stabbings yesterday, a lot of young teens too. Then there are the acid attacks that have happened in recent years (in much less a number but horrific), it shocks me how quickly some will take or ruin the life of another.

[Candy Kappa]

A ban on online sales and possession in private on "zombie knives" is a bit extreme, especially if the law as written is too vague on what a "zombie knife" is compared to the actual term in practice. Like when does a 2zombie knife" stop being a zombie knife, if 1 or 2 of the 3 requirements are not met? Do "zombie knives" have to look gaudy and ugly to apply as "zombie knives"?

I mean, if you take a tanto and write "Mr. Stabby" on the blade and paint it barf green, is it now a "zombie knife" or does the blade need to look like it was designed by a idiot with no idea on what a knife looks like and was heavily inspired by 90's comic book era Xtreme designs?

In Norway it's illegal to carry knives in public space unless it's a part of your work tools or other instances, and those knives are not allowed to have a guard (scout knives can have a guard), carrying for self protection is not a legal reason to carry. Most knives are legal to own and keep in private but butterfly knives and spring-loaded knives are illegal. But you can apply for dispensation to the police to own weapons that's on the illegal list or to own weapons before you hit 16 or 18. And breaking the law will result in some heavy fines or 1 year jail time.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

The acid issue makes way more sense. That I'm in favor of controlling.

[plastroncafe]

I don't have an issue with folks banning knives.
It's not as though law exist solely for deterrence, but also for redress.
If someone comes at me with a knife that they're not supposed to have, and I happen to survive the incident, then you're damn right I'm going to sue them for my medical costs at the very least.

Which...isn't really an issue in the UK, because of the NHS.
Though, given how that looks like it's being dismantled at a rapid pace by TPTB...

[newfan]

The acid issue makes way more sense. That I'm in favor of controlling.

Agreed, I signed a petition to control that.

[Andrew NDB]

Wow. I really thought "knife control" was just fear mongering hyperbole...

It's the ultimate fear, right? Once they start taking, they will never stop. They won’t acknowledge that humans are violent and that without weapons, the mighty will always be able to rule over all others. They want that mighty power to only reside with the government. They will protect you. If they can’t, then you don’t need protection. It’s the line that divides us. Those that want to be self reliant and those that know they can’t, so the answer is to weaken those that can and want to.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It's the ultimate fear, right? Once they start taking, they will never stop. They won’t acknowledge that humans are violent and that without weapons, the mighty will always be able to rule over all others. They want that mighty power to only reside with the government. They will protect you. If they can’t, then you don’t need protection. It’s the line that divides us. Those that want to be self reliant and those that know they can’t, so the answer is to weaken those that can and want to.

Yeah.

I mean, I REALLY thought "knife control" was Orwellian hyperbole. But man, this is TSA-level. Just further showing, the root of the issue is not the guns, it is the people. Do something about identifying them and their issues BEFORE they go out and shoot, or stab, or Harvey Dent acid splash.

[Andrew NDB]

2 months ago the idea of a knife ban was a joke. "What are they going to do next, ban knives? HAHAHAHA!"

You can't make these things up.

[Candy Kappa]

It's a ban on a specific brand of knives, not all knives.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It's a ban on a specific brand of knives, not all knives.

Not brand, style. And it sounded a little open-ended to me...

[oldmanwinters]

It's a ban on a specific brand of knives, not all knives.

First thing that came to my mind:
http://i.imgur.com/ZYISLCq.png (https://imgur.com/ZYISLCq)

[plastroncafe]

So no one else had a zero tolerance policy for knives at their High School?
I bet I'm probably the only one who has a full set of butchering knives, including a machete, in my kitchen.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

So no one else had a zero tolerance policy for knives at their High School?
I bet I'm probably the only one who has a full set of butchering knives, including a machete, in my kitchen.

On school campuses, sure. Lady Cylons and I both had to hide our knives in the bushes to get into the courthouse... I don't even remember what official documents we needed to deal with.

But it was a long damn walk back to the parking lot, so... :trazz:

[Andrew NDB]

http://www.highlander-community.com/knife.jpg

[oldmanwinters]

Cookie Monster got involved with this campaign? He's such a hypocrite!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkqXr10Us2c#t=18s

Here's a remarkable post:
http://i.imgur.com/4yU96ke.png (https://imgur.com/4yU96ke)
https://twitter.com/MPSRegentsPark/status/974645778558980096

[Powder]

You should see the one where a radio & bike wheel were confiscated as weapons. Oof.

[TurtleWA]

I’m thinking sooner or later these will be banned or perhaps a boycott of Amazon will take place in London. I mean who really needs these. I’m fine most days with a butter knife.

https://s7.postimg.org/52dync2h7/B8_F68_DC6-35_EC-4572-_B2_BB-603_B5_CD1_F9_C1.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/6hfjc23k7/)

https://s7.postimg.org/bsufws52j/1_D94275_B-7_BDA-4_EB9-_B440-6_FA14010527_D.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/4pmkh5zmv/)

[Sumac]

You should see the one where a radio & bike wheel were confiscated as weapons. Oof.
I barely can understand radio, but what you can do with the bike wheel?
Are we went to the Naked Gun universe?

[Andrew NDB]

The Brits made the mistake of showing their hand before the riled up people over here were about ready to put crazy stuff on the ballots. Now everyone knows the endgame. Now it can be cited clearly in any "You 2nd amendment people are nutso, there is no slippery slope! We just want a couple of tiny things, for now!" argument. Forevermore. It leads to insane boxes where you need to deposit your screwdriver while walking down the avenue... literally.

[Mayhem]

The Brits made the mistake of showing their hand before the riled up people over here were about ready to put crazy stuff on the ballots. Now everyone knows the endgame. Now it can be cited clearly in any "You 2nd amendment people are nutso, there is no slippery slope! We just want a couple of tiny things, for now!" argument. Forevermore. It leads to insane boxes where you need to deposit your screwdriver while walking down the avenue... literally.
Considering this: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/04/man-arrested-fatal-stabbing-suspected-burglar-london

Yeah, people be cray cray, but there is a rational limit, and if that's exceeded, there will be trouble. If you think a screwdriver is nothing special, then click the link above... happened just last week, and the home owner has been released without charge.

As noted, people will sadly always be violent inside. Just without access to guns for the most part, you get more stabbings. True, that's a lesser of two evils scenario here, but still... there were around 215 fatal stabbings in the UK last year. That's still massively dwarfed by just the gun deaths in the US.

[ProactiveMan]

First thing that came to my mind:
http://i.imgur.com/ZYISLCq.png (https://imgur.com/ZYISLCq)

Ironically you would probably get into trouble carrying that around in Australia. Our weapons laws differ from state to state, but there are quite a few types of knife that are prohibited here.

[oldmanwinters]

Yeah, people be cray cray, but there is a rational limit, and if that's exceeded, there will be trouble. If you think a screwdriver is nothing special, then click the link above... happened just last week, and the home owner has been released without charge.

And to be fair, aggressively brandishing a screwdriver in America can still get you killed by police:
http://www.wdrb.com/story/37913968/graphic-video-lmpd-releases-body-camera-footage-of-fatal-shooting-by-officers-in-prp

[newfan]

Well yeah it depends on the situation, there's a difference between the person carrying tools for work or personal DIY and then the police are searching a group of youths for weapons and finding sharp tools, they aren't really going to just take the knives but let the kids with other sharp tools keep those.

Not getting then Bike wheel and radio mentioned a few posts back....

[Andrew NDB]

And to be fair, aggressively brandishing a screwdriver in America can still get you killed by police:
http://www.wdrb.com/story/37913968/graphic-video-lmpd-releases-body-camera-footage-of-fatal-shooting-by-officers-in-prp

That guy was literally asking them to shoot him.

And yeah. Generally threatening police with weapons is not a good way to remain in the land of the living.

[Vegita-San]

That guy was literally asking them to shoot him.

And yeah. Generally threatening police with weapons is not a good way to remain in the land of the living.



Or things that look like weapons. do what you're told....no matter the skin color you might be alive to complain about your treatment later.

[oldmanwinters]

That guy was literally asking them to shoot him.

And yeah. Generally threatening police with weapons is not a good way to remain in the land of the living.

Or things that look like weapons. do what you're told....no matter the skin color you might be alive to complain about your treatment later.

Sad to say, it most likely was a "suicide by cop" decision.

[Refractive Reflections]

Came pretty close to calling it a few days beforehand ;):lol:


It won't be too surprising now, if soon a call for all knives should be banned considering how terrorists are improvising their attacks:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/07/several-injured-vienna-knife-attack/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hengshao/2014/03/01/27-dead-in-violent-knife-attack-in-kunming-china/#1abadcee6235

https://i.redd.it/tg9j4s7tfsq01.jpg

As I'll say again, it's the culture more than "the guns" that are to blame. It certainly says something culturally when American teenagers in high school had the maturity to have gun clubs and carry in schools in the past, to now when London is demanding people to "give up" their knives.

https://nypost.com/2018/03/31/when-toting-guns-in-high-school-was-cool/
https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/01/gun-clubs-school-charles-c-w-cooke/

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Came pretty close to calling it a few days beforehand ;):lol:



https://i.redd.it/tg9j4s7tfsq01.jpg

As I'll say again, it's the culture more than "the guns" that are to blame. It certainly says something culturally when American teenagers in high school had the maturity to have gun clubs and carry in schools in the past, to now when London is demanding people to "give up" their knives.

https://nypost.com/2018/03/31/when-toting-guns-in-high-school-was-cool/
https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/01/gun-clubs-school-charles-c-w-cooke/

Enter the butthurt PC attempt to "refute" you, with a pinch of sarcasm on the side :lol:

[Klunk1234]

What next for England? Ban pots and pans? Everything can be a weapon.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

What next for England? Ban pots and pans? Everything can be a weapon.

Not out of reach in London, considering what a joke Sadiq Khan is.

[Andrew NDB]

Judge calls for rounded knives, might stop stabbing deaths:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-44278556

[MsMarvelDuckie]

So, butter knives it is, then. Got it.

[Sumac]

In the light of this an obvious question: what they gonna do about forks?
:P

[Leo656]

Sporks.

Although I promise you, with time and motivation, I could - and would - still sever someone's jugular with a spork.

So after that... who knows?

[Sumac]

Aim higher: try to decapitate someone with a tea spoon!!
:lol:

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Sporks.

Although I promise you, with time and motivation, I could - and would - still sever someone's jugular with a spork.

So after that... who knows?


Spork assassin!!!


And am I the only one who suddenly thought of that line from Robin Hood Prince of Thieves?

"I'll cut out his heart with a spoon!"
"Why a spoon, cousin? Why not a knife or a fork?"
"Because it's DULL, you twit! It'll HURT more!"

[Leo656]

I like that movie.

[Andrew NDB]

Sporks.

Although I promise you, with time and motivation, I could - and would - still sever someone's jugular with a spork.

So after that... who knows?

Oh, they will find something else to go after. Trust me. Gotta save lives!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Oh, they will find something else to go after. Trust me. Gotta save lives!

Canes, maybe. You could beat somebody to death with a stout enough cane or walking stick.

[Candy Kappa]

Canes, maybe. You could beat somebody to death with a stout enough cane or walking stick.

and with some proper training in hapkido, kali, goju-shorei karate or bartitsu, you know exactly where and how to strike with a cane.

[plastroncafe]

They're are titanium umbrellas out there that can chop a watermelon in half.

Of course they have the NHS there, so it's a lot easier for people who need health care to get it.

[Sumac]

Oh, they will find something else to go after. Trust me. Gotta save lives!
Toothpicks and pens? :ohwell:

[Andrew NDB]

Toothpicks and pens? :ohwell:

Whatever it takes. In 2040 it will be mandatory to walk in public in a plastic bubble suit... it might save lives.

[Sumac]

Whatever it takes. In 2040 it will be mandatory to walk in public in a plastic bubble suit... it might save lives.
And everyone will refer to each other as "it" and use shells to wipe their ass...I have a feeling I have seen this somewhere...?

[Refractive Reflections]

How about potato peelers? Good thing the UK is removing those "offensive weapons".


Man in court for having potato peeler in public place

A MAN ended up behind bars after being found in a Dunfermline street with an offensive weapon, a potato peeler.

Scott Walker, 39, of the James Bank Hostel, James Street, appeared from custody at Dunfermline Sheriff Court.

He admitted that on Saturday in Appin Crescent, a public place, he was in possession of an object that which had a blade or was sharply pointed, namely a potato peeler.

Defence solicitor Selina McKay said her client “suffers from significant learning difficulties which have been lifelong”.

Sheriff Pino di Emidio called for reports and Walker will return to court on May 16 for sentencing.

http://www.dunfermlinepress.com/news/16197023.Man_in_court_for_having_potato_peeler_in_ public_place/

[Andrew NDB]

http://www.highlander-community.com/img01.jpg

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I love the direction this thread has taken.

[Refractive Reflections]

Not out of reach in London, considering what a joke Sadiq Khan is.

With London being more crime rampant and dangerous than New York City or pretty close to it (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/20/london-now-dangerous-new-york-crime-stats-suggest/), nice to see Sadiq Khan fighting the real problem... banning junk food advertisements (https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/994840484962095105).

[Sumac]

With London being more crime rampant and dangerous than New York City or pretty close to it (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/20/london-now-dangerous-new-york-crime-stats-suggest/), nice to see Sadiq Khan fighting the real problem... banning junk food advertisements (https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/994840484962095105).
But you know, banning junk food is an important thing! It allows to virtue signal and don't do anything worthy as opposed to studying why violence is rising in the city, which might lead to uncomfortable answers. :P

[BartAllen]

Pens and Pencils are kind of pointy. I was stabbed in the hand by one when I was a kid. I think we should ban'm.

[Sumac]

Pens and Pencils are kind of pointy. I was stabbed in the hand by one when I was a kid. I think we should ban'm.
Don't forget about Chinese food sticks!! It's pure weapon of assassination!!

Oh wait, it might smell like racism, if they ban them. But I am sure, lefties will get over it, given enough "reasoning" (AKA ********, which doesn't solve the problem at all, but looks "brave").