Star Wars Resistance, the next cartoon and successor to Clone Wars and Rebels

[CyberCubed]

https://io9.gizmodo.com/star-wars-resistance-is-the-next-lucasfilm-animated-ser-1825546331

https://i.imgur.com/v8UD5u9.jpg


Announced by Lucasfilm today, Star Wars: The Clone Wars and Rebelsproducer Dave Filoni’s next project will be Star Wars Resistance.

Set in what is described by the company as an “uncharted time frame prior to The Force Awakens,” the “anime-inspired” Resistance will follow a young pilot named Kazuda Xiono, recruited by General Leia Organa’s burgeoning Resistance for a top-secret surveillance mission to survey the growing power of the First Order. The series will focus on Kazuda and a cast of ace pilots, but will also feature familiar faces from the sequel trilogy in the form of BB-8, Poe Dameron, and Captain Phasma, with both Oscar Isaac and Gwendoline Christie reprising their respective roles for the series.

According to Filoni—who will executive produce the series alongside Rebels veterans Athena Portillo and Justin Ridge, as well as Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles’ Brandon Auman—the series will focus on the high-flying, high-speed adventures of the galaxy far, far away’s daring pilots:

The idea for Star Wars Resistance came out of my interest in World War II aircraft and fighter pilots. My grandfather was a pilot and my uncle flew and restored planes, so that’s been a big influence on me. There’s a long history of high-speed racing in Star Wars, and I think we’ve captured that sense of excitement in an anime-inspired style, which is something the entire team has been wanting to do for a long time.

No other details were revealed about the series, although we should mention there were zero mentions of Jedi in the announcement.

Star Wars Resistance will feature a voice cast alongside Isaac and Christie that includes Christopher Sean, Suzie McGrath, Scott Lawrence, Myrna Velasco, Josh Brener, Donald Faison (a big Star Wars fan, we should note, especially Rebels), Bobby Moynihan, Jim Rash, and Rachel Butera.

Star Wars Resistance will premiere on the Disney Channel this fall, before transitioning to its regular home on Disney XD.

We're getting a third Star Wars cartoon which was expected since Rebels just wrapped.

Filon's Star Wars cartoons keep going, we'll most likely see Ahsoka in this too.

[TigerClaw]

Brandon Auman who worked on the 2k12 TMNT series is a head writer/Exec producer for the new series.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BiCfUusDKfK/?taken-by=brandon_auman

[Andrew NDB]

I guess it's hard to get mad at them for doing something other than more OT wank.

Maybe this can even retroactively make Episode 7 and 8 make sense...

https://media.giphy.com/media/CoDp6NnSmItoY/200.gif

[TigerClaw]

I guess it's hard to get mad at them for doing something other than more OT wank.

Maybe this can even retroactively make Episode 7 and 8 make sense...

https://media.giphy.com/media/CoDp6NnSmItoY/200.gif
Plus we get to see more of Captain Phasma.

[CyberCubed]

The Clone Wars cartoon really fleshed out the Clone Wars era and improved some of the flaws of the prequels (particularly Anakin's characterisation), so we'll see.

It's kind of funny that these days 30+ year old adults get more excited to watch kids cartoons than the movies. All the people on other forums cheering for this are 30+ year old adults. lol.

[Allio]

“Anime inspired”

Hopefully it’s more avatar/voltron rather than Rwby/teen titans

[Autbot_Benz]

uh oh this is set in the new star wars universe


https://i.imgur.com/rnuz8jX.jpg

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

uh oh this is set in the new star wars universe


https://i.imgur.com/rnuz8jX.jpg

You shoulda just shorted that to "is coming." Still made me laugh, though. :tlol:

I dunno, I don't get excited for cartoons. Even cartoons adults can enjoy. It just feels like... I dunno, like cheating. Taking the easy way of telling a story.

[CyberCubed]

Cartoons are written for adults nowadays. Even ones aimed at kids.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Cartoons are written for adults nowadays. Even ones aimed at kids.

Yes, Cubed, I'm aware of that.

It just seems like taking the cheapest form of storytelling to placate adults who want stories.

Serious Ninja Turtle movies? Nah, he's a cartoon with some horror references that kids won't get. Good Justice League movies? Nah, he's a new cartoon series. Good Star Wars movies set in [x] time period? Nah, have a cartoon.

My take, anyway.

[Andrew NDB]

I dunno, I don't get excited for cartoons. Even cartoons adults can enjoy. It just feels like... I dunno, like cheating. Taking the easy way of telling a story.

The same. It doesn't feel "real" to me. Even a book feel more "real" to me than a cartoon.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

The same. It doesn't feel "real" to me. Even a book feel more "real" to me than a cartoon.

Glad somebody else gets my thinking!

[ABrown]

Out of respect for The Clone Wars and Rebels (which I both enjoyed), I'll give this new show a chance. But it doesn't sound like anything that I'm going to be interested in.

[Vegita-San]

I'm just not a fan of the new turtle guys working on the new star wars things. star wars is in bad enough shape as it is. we don't need more horror elements introduced into star wars. ugh.

[sdp]

I never understood how people say "Clone Wars fixes the PT", it doesn't really. They're fun stories but I don't think they add to the movies, in fact they cause more problems. The original "The Clone Wars" cartoons which are ironically non-canon do make the movies better since they were made to bridge the gap between the movies and without them you're left with a bunch of questions. I like CG Clone Wars but it's not so amazing.

I do think this series can flesh out the sequel trilogy a bit better but it's limited what it can do. Can it make Captain Phasma into a badass? Maybe but we already know how she'll be in the actual movies, etc. So yeah, I don't think it'll do harm and may fix a few things but it won't make the ST actually good.

[CyberCubed]

Yes, Cubed, I'm aware of that.

It just seems like taking the cheapest form of storytelling to placate adults who want stories.

Serious Ninja Turtle movies? Nah, he's a cartoon with some horror references that kids won't get. Good Justice League movies? Nah, he's a new cartoon series. Good Star Wars movies set in [x] time period? Nah, have a cartoon.

My take, anyway.

Hm, do you think all animation is inferior? Disney/Pixar cartoon movies are written for adults to enjoy, Young Justice is considered one of the best DC series of all time and it's a cartoon, and of course the classic Batman: TAS is critically acclaimed. There's also anime most of which is aimed at adults and I'm not even much an anime fan in general. It's also obviously easier to do these shows with cartoons/animation than with real people, cheaper too, so we get more stories out of it.

I mean we're not in the 1980's anymore, there's so much animation and cartoons aimed at adults these days. Let alone all the adult comedies they air, etc.

[Raph's Girl]

Can't wait to see the first footage. Probably at San Diego Comic Con.

[sdp]

Now more than ever there's a ton of cartoons aimed at adults thanks to the success of Adult Swim. However most of those shows tend to be comedies. Yes, many shows are now written intelligent enough that not only kids but adults can enjoy them too. That doesn't mean the shows target audience isn't primarily kids even if there's a small loud niche online of adult fans.

I love animation but it's still doesn't hit the same points a live action show/movie for adults. Let alone a book which is the superior format for storytelling. We can cherry pick exceptions, for example BTAS being better than any live action take but they pale in comparison to what can be achieved if something is really meant for adults.

Yeah it's cool to see how much progress cartoons have made over the years but it's still a long way before you can argue that they're the same.

[plastroncafe]

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm far more lenient when it comes to plot and execution with animation than I am with something live action.

There are just things you can get away with in a cartoon that you can't with actual actors, and depending on the story sometimes Show Not Tell just works better.

[sdp]

Here's my wishlist for the show:

*Exploit BB-8, he was such an awesome addition to Episode VII and sadly got ignored in Ep. VIII.
*Continue the fanwankery of using the continuity of Clone Wars/Rebels to tell stories with characters we saw in those series. It really helped Rebels feel like a more established universe.
* Try to adapt some stories, haven't watched S3/4 of Rebels so no spoilers but if General Thrawn wasn't killed or Hier to the Empire adapted, maybe it can be adapted in some way, not just that but other fun post OT EU stories
*Goes without saying but try to make the sequels make more sense by
explaining all the problems of going back to the OT in the 30 year span.
*Have an episode with Finn as a storm trooper before he ever met the others
*It's time for Jar Jar Binks to return
*The Empire should really be dealt with a minimum, have more fun stories but based on Leia/Poe being integral parts of the plot I'm guessing that's hoping for too much

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm far more lenient when it comes to plot and execution with animation than I am with something live action.

There are just things you can get away with in a cartoon that you can't with actual actors, and depending on the story sometimes Show Not Tell just works better.

I think it has to do with suspension of disbelief, when it's animated you're already accepting that these drawings are "real" so you're more willing to let them do things that your brain might not let pass if it's done by CG or a more realistic set of rules. That's what I think.

[TigerClaw]

This series will take place before The Force Awakens. So we will get to see more about Captain Phasma. and maybe get to see how Finn was forced to join the First Order. Though this new show will focus on a new character. Some of the characters from The Force Awakens like Po Dameron will appear on it.

[plastroncafe]

Here's my wishlist for the show:
I think it has to do with suspension of disbelief, when it's animated you're already accepting that these drawings are "real" so you're more willing to let them do things that your brain might not let pass if it's done by CG or a more realistic set of rules. That's what I think.

That is certainly a possibility.
It's like, how certain comic get ups work on the page, but just do NOT work on actual living people.

[Andrew NDB]

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm far more lenient when it comes to plot and execution with animation than I am with something live action.

Yeah. Though by the same token I am more lenient when it comes to plot and execution in animation... I am also taking it far less seriously on the whole.

Just as a random example, think of TMNT 2007. The only scene people remember from it, the big Leonardo vs. Raphael scene? Now imagine if it had been in live-action instead, full-on Jim Henson suits and all.

There's no way you can tell me that scene wouldn't have had way, way, way more weight in live-action.

[Vegita-San]

I never understood how people say "Clone Wars fixes the PT",

maybe fixes isn't the right word.

It shows, that with NO yes men around, you CAN make even bad ideas like Jar Jar work REMARKABLY well. The only Jar Jar episodes I found annoyingly unwatchable where the one where he got a girlfriend. gross central ;o)

[Andrew NDB]

The original "The Clone Wars" cartoons which are ironically non-canon do make the movies better

I've actually seen those. Somewhat entertaining, though certainly nothing I took remotely seriously and nothing I ever expected to be or remain in canon. I just remember Mace Windu jumping on top of ships from the ground and punching holes in walls, or something... it felt super exaggerated and stylized.

[Spike Spiegel]

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm far more lenient when it comes to plot and execution with animation than I am with something live action.

There are just things you can get away with in a cartoon that you can't with actual actors, and depending on the story sometimes Show Not Tell just works better.

The time travel shenanigans in Rebels would have gotten absolutely ass-blasted by fanboys if they did that in Episodes VIII or IX.

[Vegita-San]

The time travel shenanigans in Rebels would have gotten absolutely ass-blasted by fanboys if they did that in Episodes VIII or IX.


Not if it un did all the damage the ST caused. in fact, for this one instance only, i'd celebrate it. and it wasn't a normal version of that particular method either, more like one we've seen before in a certain series about turtles.

but all in all, i'm rather happy that SW for the most part has avoided that particular sci fi trapping.

[CyberCubed]

Time travel is in almost everything sci-fi, I'm really surprised Star Wars never touched on it till now.

[ABrown]

I never understood how people say "Clone Wars fixes the PT", it doesn't really. They're fun stories but I don't think they add to the movies, in fact they cause more problems. The original "The Clone Wars" cartoons which are ironically non-canon do make the movies better since they were made to bridge the gap between the movies and without them you're left with a bunch of questions. I like CG Clone Wars but it's not so amazing.

I've actually seen those. Somewhat entertaining, though certainly nothing I took remotely seriously and nothing I ever expected to be or remain in canon. I just remember Mace Windu jumping on top of ships from the ground and punching holes in walls, or something... it felt super exaggerated and stylized.

This is the way that I look at the two Clone Wars cartoons. The first "series" was literally a bridge between episodes II and III. The second series that ran for six seasons wasn't necessarily meant to connect the two movies. It was about telling stories that happened between the two.

[CyberCubed]

I consider both cartoons canon, the 2D one doesn't conflict that much. I think the only difference is showing why General Grievous "coughs."

[sdp]

What? There's time travel in Rebels? Ugh, talk about a bad idea.


Yeah, I always considered both shows canon, there's hardly any real contradictions unless you get super geeky and you can just wave those away.

[CyberCubed]

What? There's time travel in Rebels? Ugh, talk about a bad idea..

It's only in one episode, and it's not really time travel, it's more like, "pull a character out of this part in the past into the present."

[Andrew NDB]

It's only in one episode, and it's not really time travel, it's more like, "pull a character out of this part in the past into the present."

So... time travel.

[Allio]

Be nice to CC

[CyberCubed]

If you watch the episode it's more of a "time portal." Nobody actually went back in time. Just the main character pulled someone from the past into the present.

[PApagreg]

Yes, Cubed, I'm aware of that.

It just seems like taking the cheapest form of storytelling to placate adults who want stories.

Serious Ninja Turtle movies? Nah, he's a cartoon with some horror references that kids won't get. Good Justice League movies? Nah, he's a new cartoon series. Good Star Wars movies set in [x] time period? Nah, have a cartoon.

My take, anyway.

It feels like you have less problems with the actual medium and more the demographic

[Vegita-San]

Be nice to CC

he's not nice to anyone else ;o)...

just mention you're over 35 and see the reaction you get ;o)

[Vegita-San]

What? There's time travel in Rebels? Ugh, talk about a bad idea.



the only reason i want it out of star wars, is because it's too EASY a plot device. Star Trek Over used it to death, even IF most of those episodes tend to be their better ones.

I don't want star wars to have to fall back on the same crutch.

[TurtleTitan97]

What? There's time travel in Rebels? Ugh, talk about a bad idea.


Not really. The show handled the idea very well, imo.

[Vegita-San]

again, think Time Window from cody's lab.

[TurtleTitan97]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhXXrHJVAAAeiOU.jpg:large

[sdp]

Looks like Rebels as expected and I'm guessing the show will be basically Rebels in a different time period. My wishlist stands:

Here's my wishlist for the show:

*Exploit BB-8, he was such an awesome addition to Episode VII and sadly got ignored in Ep. VIII.
*Continue the fanwankery of using the continuity of Clone Wars/Rebels to tell stories with characters we saw in those series. It really helped Rebels feel like a more established universe.
* Try to adapt some stories, haven't watched S3/4 of Rebels so no spoilers but if General Thrawn wasn't killed or Hier to the Empire adapted, maybe it can be adapted in some way, not just that but other fun post OT EU stories
*Goes without saying but try to make the sequels make more sense by
explaining all the problems of going back to the OT in the 30 year span.
*Have an episode with Finn as a storm trooper before he ever met the others
*It's time for Jar Jar Binks to return
*The Empire should really be dealt with a minimum, have more fun stories but based on Leia/Poe being integral parts of the plot I'm guessing that's hoping for too much

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Yeah it's cool to see how much progress cartoons have made over the years but it's still a long way before you can argue that they're the same.

But still, we're in general stuck in western countries with "Comics and cartoons are only for children" (even videogames seem to still suffer from this). Japan doesn't seem to have the same problems, with their manga and anime.

[Vegita-San]

Looks like Rebels as expected and I'm guessing the show will be basically Rebels in a different time period. My wishlist stands:


looks like more un original crap. only this time copy crap. ugh.

[TurtleTitan97]

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[snake]

Wow, that looks like complete and utter sh*t. SW is dead.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah, no thanks. Thank god Clone Wars is getting a final season.

Star Wars Rebels was toned down from Clone Wars but most of it was still good. This art style looks awful here and you can tell the writing is toned down for kids.

[sdp]

I like the art style it's cg but celshaded but that trailer looks bland as f-ck and keeping it as safe as it can. RIP Star Wars.

[Vegita-San]

i used to wonder how much time filoni had left at lucasfilm being a lucas loyalist.

with this show, it does not feel like his signature style at all. it feels bland, safe, and cheap. and it looks weird as hell. like a PS1 video game.

I'd be shocked if he had anything to do with it, and it just had his name to try and keep the fans happy.

then ep 8 and solo hit. the course correction happened and clone wars of all things comes back..hmm...

[frank_one]

I don't like it. It looks extremely cheap and stupid.

[ABrown]

I came accross this on the discussion for this show on another of my daily forums: "What is Star Wars Resistance, and why are people so pissed about it?" (https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/98fl8v/what_is_star_wars_resistance_and_why_are_people/)

And while I am by no means "pissed" about it, I will say that a lot of my favorite franchises seem to be going in a direction that I likely won't be following: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Transformers, Star Wars, and Thundercats.

[TigerClaw]

I have no problem with the way this new series looks. I'm happy to see a new series focusing on the starfighter pilots this time.

[Splinter the boss]

Not watching that trash. Kind of happy about that, I already have too many things on my watchlist.

[TurtleTitan97]

Ae2Cxy8sswk

[Andrew NDB]

It's funny to think that the show will basically has to invent from the ground up what the titular "Resistance" is... since the actual movies they're from don't have them making any kind of sense.

They're separate from the New Republic because the New Republic is pacifistic and believe the First Order doesn't pose a threat... yet the First Order attacks the New Republic... and the Resistance is still the Resistance? Calling themselves "Rebels"? What?

[Vegita-San]

Yep.

there was really no need for a 'resistance' if they won the war and where in control of the galaxy....sigh.

at this point, they just need to re instate legends, make an animated Thrawn Thriller movie, and move on from there. scrap all crap from the kennedy legacy.

[Sumac]

It's funny to think that the show will basically has to invent from the ground up what the titular "Resistance" is... since the actual movies they're from don't have them making any kind of sense.

They're separate from the New Republic because the New Republic is pacifistic and believe the First Order doesn't pose a threat... yet the First Order attacks the New Republic... and the Resistance is still the Resistance? Calling themselves "Rebels"? What?
This delicious nostalgia.:lol:

[CyberCubed]

I just want to know where the budget went. Clone Wars is now a decade old, why does decade old CG from 2008-2010 look better than shows today? You'd think cartoons would look better than ever in the modern year of 2018, yet now obvious dated animation from 10 years ago still holds up better.

It really makes no sense, besides the studios just slashing the budget for animators to work with.

[Leo656]

I just want to know where the budget went. Clone Wars is now a decade old, why does decade old CG from 2008-2010 look better than shows today? You'd think cartoons would look better than ever in the modern year of 2018, yet now obvious dated animation from 10 years ago still holds up better.

It really makes no sense, besides the studios just slashing the budget for animators to work with.

Animation trends, along with peoples' tastes and preferences, are cyclical. Disney, WB, from all the way back to the Fleischer era, up through the stylized and simplified presentation of today's shows, it's always the same.

For a while, there's a sense of one-upsmanship all around, with everyone's animation trying to raise the bar, and things get really good. Then, you have a run where people are willing to settle for, basically, crap; especially if that "crap" sells a lot of toys, and everyone else is doing it. Eventually, there's a rebound, everyone's standards go back up, people start demanding more again, and then things once again start to sparkle and shine.

Compare Popeye shorts from the 1930s to those from the 1960s, for example. Or Fleischer Superman in the 40s to the Filmation Superman show in the 60s, then once more to the 1990s Superman animated series (which itself paid great homage to the Fleischer shorts). Or even the original, classic Disney animated films, to the mid-period "animation ghetto" stuff of the 60s and 70s, and then back to the "Second Disney Renaissance" of the 1990s.

Sometimes the trends last longer or shorter, but they're usually measured in at least a decade. The cycle goes "Beauty - Crap - Beauty" on a loop.

We're currently in a "crap" phase, despite technology vastly improving, because it's what people are presently willing to settle for. That will eventually change again.

[Andrew NDB]

The show isn't even out yet, and it looks like he voice actress playing General Leia has been fired over a tweet.

https://toonado.com/cartoons/star-wars-resistance-general-leia-likely-to-be-recast-on-account-of-an-offensive-tweet-by-her-voice-actress-a681

[Leo656]

Oh, c'mon.

See, back in my day, people quickly grew out of diaper rash. Now it lasts forever.

[M.O.D.O.K.]

The show isn't even out yet, and it looks like he voice actress playing General Leia has been fired over a tweet.

https://toonado.com/cartoons/star-wars-resistance-general-leia-likely-to-be-recast-on-account-of-an-offensive-tweet-by-her-voice-actress-a681

No, she wasn't. It's only speculation on whether she was fired or not.

Fake news strike again!

[Vegita-San]

Not sure what the hell this is about, but LOL...
imagine if they had to delay the show to re record all the actresses lines? more money lost on the KK watch :)

[ABrown]

Man, time flies. I didn't even realize, until I saw a commercial for it today, that this series is premiering tomorrow on regular Disney Channel. Well, I guess it's time to see if this show is going to be as boring as it looks.

[Andrew NDB]

No, she wasn't. It's only speculation on whether she was fired or not.

Fake news strike again!

Damn... FAKE news, it's everywhere!

[ABrown]

I have to say, that was a REALLY boring first episode. Is this not going to be an action cartoon like The Clone Wars and Rebels? Is it gonna be like what Rescue Bots is for Transformers. I mean I'm perfectly fine if that's what it's going to be. But if what we saw in the first episode is what we're to expect from this series, I likely won't be watching a whole lot more.

[Autbot_Benz]

Show is cancelled after Season 2 being its last. I am not surprised

https://ew.com/tv/2019/08/14/star-wars-resistance-season-2-trailer/

[TurtleTitan97]

Too bad some people didn't give it a chance. The first season really picked up towards the end.

[Autbot_Benz]

All I want is a series where Sabine and Ashoka go searching for Ezra in sequel series to Rebels

[CyberCubed]

I hope Clone Wars gets more than just 13 new episodes, they had a lot of scripts and unfinished arcs to do.

[Vegita-San]

Cancelled! did it even make 50 episodes?

[Andrew NDB]

I guess nobody cares about the FAKE "Resistance."

[sdp]

I forgot this even existed, I guess that's why it's being cancelled, the sequel trilogy ended up being this massive failure for Disney, at leas to their expectatives of what the franchise could do. But maybe we can get a better future because of this huge failure.

How was this show really? I've never heard anyone talk about it either good or bad, it's like it didn't even premier.


It's kind of funny that these days 30+ year old adults get more excited to watch kids cartoons than the movies. All the people on other forums cheering for this are 30+ year old adults. lol.
This is especially funny since I read an article last week or so that SWs couldn't connect with the younger audience anymore. That's what happens when you try to appeal to only 40+ year olds who grew up with the OT only.I just want to know where the budget went. Clone Wars is now a decade old, why does decade old CG from 2008-2010 look better than shows today? You'd think cartoons would look better than ever in the modern year of 2018, yet now obvious dated animation from 10 years ago still holds up better.

It really makes no sense, besides the studios just slashing the budget for animators to work with.

Clone Wars was George Lucas' pet project, it had a bigger budget than what a network would give it. They would basically do it for as much as it cost and then sell it to CN to air, instead of being bound by a networks budget. Lucas didn't care if the show didn't turn a profit, he wanted to make the show. This is why Rebels also looked worse than CWs despite coming later.