TMNT #82 Preview and Discussion

[AlZarkovski]

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[CyberCubed]

Bwahahahahaha.

[Utrommaniac]

Pretty sure we all saw this coming, but it was still great :lol:

[MikeandRaph87]

" oh, a fellow chucker, hey".:D This is like an unfair fight from TMNT (1987) like with the Crooked Ninja Turtles Gang.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It's <sniff> beautiful! :tlol:

[Utrommaniac]

Here's a preview link to the IDW page (https://www.idwpublishing.com/product/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-82/)

"Can we just have one day without weirdness?"

This issue is going to provide some much-needed levity. I can feel it.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

"Guys, whatever you do... please don't hurt anyone."

:tlol: :tlol: :tlol: :tlol: :tlol: :tlol: :tlol: :tlol: :tlol: :tlol:

I'm dying...

[Utrommaniac]

Oh my god, I just noticed Don getting whacked on his shell with the push broom :lol: .

It's even more pitiful since he's been hit with worse.

[bushido]

Full preview here (https://www.newsarama.com/39914-preview-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-82.html).

[Ninjinister]

Looks like Raph is a fellow 'chucker now too!

[Utrommaniac]

I think this is the first time we've actually seen someone throw up in this series? Michelangelo has come close at least once.

[Ninjinister]

I think this is the first time we've actually seen someone throw up in this series?

I don't know? That's a weird metric to track.

[TurtleWA]

First appearance of Raph with the ralph :lol: :trolleye:

[Utrommaniac]

MY LETTER IS IN THIS ISSUE :D !

Poor, poor Raphael :lol: . That would be my brother on big rolling hills.

I think I know what the next story line is going to be!

And boy, the Rat King really is just doing all of this for sh*ts and giggles.

The doors feel like entry levels to worlds in a video game.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

We finally get to the Rat King's grand machinations, and I'm more interested in what's going down between Bishop and Stockman. :tgrin:

[ChosenOne]

I don't think RK has any grand machinations per se, he just... does things. Like a certain other infamously chaotic character from recent memory. But the Bishop/Stockman team-up is definitely winning out in terms of interest here. And I can't wait to see if Splinter's orders to Jennika will be carried out on-panel. There's been very little Italian Mafia presence in this series, I'd like to see more of Lupo and his ilk. Oh, and... Jennika/Casey ship fo'sho! :D

[PApagreg]

Okay issue, a lot of exposition but seeing how this was the "setup" issue I can understand why.

[neatoman]

MY LETTER IS IN THIS ISSUE :D !

Poor, poor Raphael :lol: . That would be my brother on big rolling hills.

I think I know what the next story line is going to be!

And boy, the Rat King really is just doing all of this for sh*ts and giggles.

The doors feel like entry levels to worlds in a video game.

I had a feeling that was you, Katherine.

[Utrommaniac]

Well, who else could it be :P ?

[CyberCubed]

This was a great issue filled with a lot of humor at the beginning with the Toad Baron and his frogs. Toad Baron continues to prove to be one of the best new characters IDW came up with, and easily the most entertaining Patheon member. Although to be fair half of the others haven't gotten much screentime yet.

So Bishop/Baxter working together and this all leads back to Burnow Island again, something Bishop was monitoring around 20 issues ago. Now with both the Utroms and Triceratons there, if Bishop attacks he's going to be in for even more of a war than he expected. And with Ch'rell around too...this is enough for a whole 5+ issue event itself.

The side stuff with the gangs isn't very interesting, as it feels like a filler subplot, but I guess it keeps Splinter busy.

Overall though it feels like all the plots of the last 3 years are coming to a head, Leatherhead and Old Hob will likely be involved with the Patheon War stuff too coming up. Now if only they'd cover Null working with possibly Maligna in Universe just so we remember she exists. :lol:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'd love for the next major story arc (#86-90) to be Bishop invading Burnow Island finally.

But maybe that'll come after #100 and the Pantheon stuff...

[CyberCubed]

It probably will be, there's really no other time to do it.

Bishop/Baxter/EPF Vs. Utroms/Tricertaons (and possibly Ch'rell) in a big war. We already see in Universe things aren't going well for the Triceratons on Earth anyway.

Then after that the Patheon stuff should lead to issue 100. Old Hob/Mutanimals and probably Leatherhead will likely help the Turtles fight whatever comes their way, along with the other allies and probably Hun, etc.

The only other subplot as said is Null, she'll probably never appear in the main series so I hope she just gets a 4 issue Universe arc to wrap her up.

[Utrommaniac]

Bobby's response to my letter in Ninja Notes also said that we'd be returning to the Utroms in the ongoing before the year ended, so that sets up the case even more.

[ChosenOne]

It probably will be, there's really no other time to do it.

Bishop/Baxter/EPF Vs. Utroms/Tricertaons (and possibly Ch'rell) in a big war. We already see in Universe things aren't going well for the Triceratons on Earth anyway.

Then after that the Patheon stuff should lead to issue 100. Old Hob/Mutanimals and probably Leatherhead will likely help the Turtles fight whatever comes their way, along with the other allies and probably Hun, etc.

The only other subplot as said is Null, she'll probably never appear in the main series so I hope she just gets a 4 issue Universe arc to wrap her up.

I've been latching on to something Bobby said in his thread, about Null probably eventually making her way to the main ongoing. Don't count her out just yet. I agree with everything else you said and it's probably going to pan out that way, except I'd very much like for Stockman and Hob to meet again so maybe the Mutanimals do something to try to get Slash back from the EPF? Who knows. There's potential there for a great scene and it sure would bookend this series' humble beginnings. As it is, I was surprised Stockman barely seemed to react to Slash's presence. Wasn't he directly involved in his creation? Huh.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Bobby's response to my letter in Ninja Notes also said that we'd be returning to the Utroms in the ongoing before the year ended, so that sets up the case even more.

There ya go, that's proof enough for me!

#86-90: Return to Burnow Island. :tcool:

[ChosenOne]

#86-90: Extinction. :o 8) :D

[Utrommaniac]

Boy, that would just be a fun proper introduction to Ch'rell, won't it.

Just throwing him at us in his natural element. It would be pretty amazing if he went head-to-head with Slash, if Mike and Mondo haven't saved him already.


I do think that the Utroms would add a formidable booster to the Triceratons forces when the EPF arrive. And they still have the Technodrome sitting around.

[ChosenOne]

The only way for such an arc to pan out is a monumentally chaotic brawl between the various factions that acts as a spiritual sequel to Attack on Technodrome.

The Turtles want to protect the aliens, save Slash, stop Ch'rell.

The Utroms and the Triceratons want to defend their new home.

Bishop and the EPF want to exterminate the aliens and the Turtles.

Ch'rell is probably gonna go for the Technodrome to kill everyone.

Stockman will be Stockman.

Good times ahead!

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

#86-90: Extinction. :o 8) :D

Oh DAMN, I like that title. :tgrin:

[ChosenOne]

Oh DAMN, I like that title. :tgrin:

Get it now, before it's gone! :tgrin:

[Utrommaniac]

This would be their first introduction to Ch'rell, though. I think pressure from certain other things might make it hard to stop him and the EPF at the same time, and they might ultimately choose the EPF.

I doubt this would really be an extinction storyline, especially with the new alliance that's been developed. I think it might just be the ultimate team building exercise. It's already shown that the Triceratons barely survived on their own, and the Utroms definitely would not have survived on their own, even with Ma'riell deciding on her own to get Ch'rell out because they would need him.

But they'd have a better chance together, especially with the turtles around to help (and hey, unlikely bet, but calling in the Neutrinos for reinforcement would be cool)

[CyberCubed]

I said before I think the Utroms and Triceratons are eventually going to find a new home back in Dimension X, it's pretty obvious Earth is not a place they will be able to stay peacefully. They'll probably realize this in the aftermath of Bishop's attack.

Between that and all the other crazy stuff that happens on Earth like the Patheon, why would a bunch of aliens stay here? I know the Triceratons are from Earth in this continuity, but maybe they will get a new home.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I said before I think the Utroms and Triceratons are eventually going to find a new home back in Dimension X, it's pretty obvious Earth is not a place they will be able to stay peacefully. They'll probably realize this in the aftermath of Bishop's attack.

Between that and all the other crazy stuff that happens on Earth like the Patheon, why would a bunch of aliens stay here? I know the Triceratons are from Earth in this continuity, but maybe they will get a new home.

I think we'll eventually see the Utroms and Triceratons choose to work together to settle a new planet back in Dimension X together.

[ChosenOne]

This would be their first introduction to Ch'rell, though. I think pressure from certain other things might make it hard to stop him and the EPF at the same time, and they might ultimately choose the EPF.

Not if Ch'rell tries to activate the Technodrome again. The EPF is small potatoes compared to that, plus Bishop would actually side with the Turtles if he realized what they're trying to do. Or... Circumstances could force the Turtles to choose between saving the Burnow aliens and potentially letting Earth perish, or save the planet from Ch'rell but not in time to stop Bishop from slaughtering all the aliens.

Doubt it'll go down like that, but wouldn't that be an effing kick in the pants?

I doubt this would really be an extinction storyline, especially with the new alliance that's been developed.

Oh, no. When I brought up that title, I was thinking that you can totally call it that but not actually involve any race's extinction. Just the threat of it. If Ch'rell's plan involves reactivating the Technodrome, then it's not just the Utroms and Triceratons on the line, but potentially the humans as well.

And I wonder if the Triceratons know their prehistoric ancestors have since gone extinct? Huh.

Whatever happens next, this is one phenomenal comic!

[MikeandRaph87]

So Jagwar is evil,huh? Not just a gender-flip,but flipping sides as well.

A door leading to wherever the roaming place of the other Pantheon members? So they don't have a residence like Toad Baron does. The doorway plot device was a bit of a cop out in finding them though.

[CyberCubed]

So Jagwar is evil,huh? Not just a gender-flip,but flipping sides as well..

What makes you think that? Most of the Pantheon are neutral to the plights of people, they're Gods. We also haven't seen enough of Jagwar yet to really say.

[ChosenOne]

Something that I brought up earlier in the thread got me thinking during a reread of this issue: Stockman didn't seem fazed by Slash's presence at the EPF camp. But he did give him an intrigued look as Bishop was making his threat. What do we know about IDW Baxter Stockman? Three things: a) that he won't stand for any power dynamic where he's not the one in charge for too long; b) that he will do anything in his considerably resourceful power to upend that power dynamic in his favor; and c) that he's an expert in cybernetic implants, if his Flyborgs are anything to go by. Who do we know has an implant in his head that makes him Bishop's puppet? Oh, that's right... :tgrin:

Stockman might just be instrumental in freeing Slash from the EPF's control. I mean, let's face it, the power of love and friendship just isn't gonna cut it in this case. It'll take much more than that. And that would afford him quite the leeway with the Mutanimals if/when he and Hob ever meet again. We all know Stockman is going to stab Bishop in the back the first chance he gets. That's what he does. It's just a matter of when, and how much he can profit from it. Having to reveal the location of the Triceratons under threat is a slight he won't soon forget, and it's gonna cost Bishop. Dearly.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Something that I brought up earlier in the thread got me thinking during a reread of this issue: Stockman didn't seem fazed by Slash's presence at the EPF camp. But he did give him an intrigued look as Bishop was making his threat. What do we know about IDW Baxter Stockman? Three things: a) that he won't stand for any power dynamic where he's not the one in charge for too long; b) that he will do anything in considerably resourceful power to upend that power dynamic in his favor; and c) that he's an expert in cybernetic implants, if his Flyborgs are anything to go by. Who do we know has an implant in his head that makes him Bishop's puppet? Oh, that's right... :tgrin:

Stockman might just be instrumental in freeing Slash from the EPF's control. I mean, let's face it, the power of love and friendship just isn't gonna cut it in this case. It'll take much more than that. And that would afford him quite the leeway with the Mutanimals if/when he and Hob ever meet again. We all know Stockman is going to stab Bishop in the back the first chance he gets. That's what he does. It's just a matter of when, and how much he can profit from it. Having to reveal the location of the Utroms under threat is a slight he won't soon forget, and it's gonna cost Bishop. Dearly.

I had that same thought! :tgrin:

[ChosenOne]

I had that same thought! :tgrin:

Did you catch that ever-so-slight hint that Splinter might just send his ninjas after Hun, too? Honestly, it was so subtle...

Someone's not ready to cut the strings on lil' puppet Casey just yet.

[Utrommaniac]

What do we know about IDW Baxter Stockman? Three things: a) that he won't stand for any power dynamic where he's not the one in charge for too long; b) that he will do anything in his considerably resourceful power to upend that power dynamic in his favor; and c) that he's an expert in cybernetic implants, if his Flyborgs are anything to go by. Who do we know has an implant in his head that makes him Bishop's puppet? Oh, that's right... :tgrin:

Stockman might just be instrumental in freeing Slash from the EPF's control. I mean, let's face it, the power of love and friendship just isn't gonna cut it in this case. It'll take much more than that. And that would afford him quite the leeway with the Mutanimals if/when he and Hob ever meet again. We all know Stockman is going to stab Bishop in the back the first chance he gets. That's what he does. It's just a matter of when, and how much he can profit from it. Having to reveal the location of the Triceratons under threat is a slight he won't soon forget, and it's gonna cost Bishop. Dearly.

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Ohh!

Come on, man, work your science magic!

[Ninjinister]

So if Toad Baron has doors that reach all of his sibs, why did they all have to travel to him for the party?

[Utrommaniac]

They have a dramatic flair?

Probably could ask Bobby about that.

[neatoman]

So if Toad Baron has doors that reach all of his sibs, why did they all have to travel to him for the party?

I imagine that the doors are one of those "one way ticket" deals. Once you go through, you can't go back the way you came. That and the Party was at his place, have you ever heard of a party where the host picks up all the guests?

[Utrommaniac]

I'm pretty sure it's called "Bar Night" :P

"Get in the wagon, petulant fools! We are going to indulge in the finest of drinks!"

[Technogeek29]

Thats one powerful ward T.B. has there. pretty useful for anyone who tries to touch him, I imagine there is a way around it with Magic because even he doesn't strike me as someone who would let long ranged fighting get the better of him.

So if Jennika turns out to be Gabriela I want to be the first one to say CALLED IT!:D

[neatoman]

Thats one powerful ward T.B. has there. pretty useful for anyone who tries to touch him, I imagine there is a way around it with Magic because even he doesn't strike me as someone who would let long ranged fighting get the better of him.

So if Jennika turns out to be Gabriela I want to be the first one to say CALLED IT!:D

You mean Gaby, Casey's dead wife?

[Technogeek29]

You mean Gaby, Casey's dead wife?

Si the very one.

[Utrommaniac]

Wouldn't that just doom her to being another one of IDW's dead moms, though? Considering that Gabriella bled to death giving birth to Shadow?

[Papenbrook]

Wouldn't that just doom her to being another one of IDW's dead moms, though? Considering that Gabriella bled to death giving birth to Shadow?

Woah! What?!

What's this about IDW and dead moms?! :o

[CyberCubed]

Tang Shen, who as we know was Hamato Yoshi's wife, is the Turtles actual mother in this incarnation. She is of course dead as always by Shredder's hand, but she appeared as a spiritual ghost in a few issues.

[Utrommaniac]

You clearly haven't seen my rants about that problem :P

Tang Shen - Dead - Murdered by the Foot
Turtles have a fairly complicated relationship with their father, which is going sour.

Casey's mom - Dead - Cancer
Casey's father is physically and emotionally abusive

Angel's mom - Dead - Hit by a car
Dad barely shown?

Alopex's mom - Dead - Forest fire set by Saki
And so is the rest of her family

Saki's mom - Never shown, probably dead in Secret History of the Foot Clan
Sour relationship with his father

Krang's mom - Never shown, probably dead at the time of various flashbacks
Where do I even begin with Krang's relationship with his father?

Pantheon's mom - Not discussed, probably dead, but is implied to be a Phoenix in a painting so that might not last
They're terrified by the idea of their father's return to the mortal realm, save for Kitsune

It seems like April's mother is the only one that's alive, well, and present in the story. And not only that, has a healthy relationship with both of her parents.
Karai's parents are both alive, but she doesn't seem to talk to them anymore.

It's kind of a disturbing trend of "dead mom, bad relationship with dad" for a story that's "All about the importance of family". I mean, Casey has the spirit to be a good dad, but I'd rather not have that at the expense of Jennika/Gabrielle dying in childbirth. Especially with her being as bad@$$ as she is.


My feelings about the 7/9 mom characters being dead (or potentially) basically feels like this
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[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Karai's parents are both alive, but she doesn't seem to talk to them anymore.

Ahhh, small correction on that, Karai's dad is dead, we saw it in the micro issue. Her mom is implied to still be alive, thoguh Karai didn't seem to get along with her at all.

[Ninjinister]

Yeah Karai said Yori died from the stress of her taking The Foot from him.

[Powder]

The Pantheon is definitely my favorite contribution IDW's made to TMNT lore. Anything to do with them just totally hooks me. & I think I've come to the conclusion that Toad Baron in particular is my favorite character in the series. :tlol:

Seeing him on his throne brought to mind Aska's stage design from TMNT Tournament Fighters on SNES:
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I'm guessing it's coincidence that there's a mystical place where a giant amphibian looms over all. :tcool: Love it.

Seeing Mikey take part in the beast feast was a very Mikey moment, got a big kick out of that. A lot of great faces in here, the turtle reactions throughout their scenes with TB were wonderfully expressive.

[Ninjinister]

I'm guessing it's coincidence that there's a mystical place where a giant amphibian looms over all. :tcool: Love it.


Likely. Big frogs are an old ninja trope, going back to the tale of Jiraiya the Gallant in 1806. So yeah, Toad Baron and the big one in Aska's stage aren't related... but I like the similarity.

[Utrommaniac]

You know TB would probably envy the beard on that frog:P

[Powder]

It's a rope.

[Utrommaniac]

Hm...so it is.

[Groovy]

Bobby's response to my letter in Ninja Notes also said that we'd be returning to the Utroms in the ongoing before the year ended, so that sets up the case even more.

Kudos on getting a letter in! I've gotten one in Savage Dragon and Invincible so far. :D

And cowabunga by the way everyone!

[Utrommaniac]

Thanks, stranger :)