How To Train Your Dragon 3... and the "Hetero Agenda"

[drag0nfeathers]

*TRIGGER WARNING!*

I was so excited for this... but then...

https://i.redd.it/6t54pgahbi111.jpg

I'm gonna tread a hot button issue and say that I'm all for gay pride, gender equality, etc etc but this is getting out of control.

I feel stupid for even making this argument since it is a children's movie about pretend creatures, but the whole point was that Toothless was the last of his kind so... was it not predictable they would eventually introduce a female dragon so they could potentially save the species?

Also, there has been a twitter war also over the race issue. "Oh, a black male dragon and white female dragon. How typical?" Dude? I thought everyone would be happy about one being black and one being white... doesn't that promote interracial couples? Instead everyone is ******** on the idea and pissed off that she's not also black.

That's it. Like... I'm done. You can't make anyone happy ever... so just sit down and shut up and just enjoy the damn movie. It's Dragons for Christ sake!

It's like Rise all over again lol. Everyone is already judging it and the trailer hasn't even aired yet. Smh.

Please tell me I'm not alone on this?

[TurtleTitan97]

People will truly complain about anything these days, huh?

[Candy Kappa]

Relax. It's okay to criticize lazy, boring and outright bad creature design.

[Vegita-San]

Relax. It's okay to criticize lazy, boring and outright bad creature design.

what, do all dragons look alike to you?

sorry, couldn't resist :)...

but yeah. this is why SJW's will NEVER win. they are NEVER satisfied. capitulate to them on one issue, and ruin something, they will bring up ten more things to complain about. and you will loose your fan base forever more.

learn your lesson from star wars. from ghostbusters. from star trek. Don't SJW-ize. EVER.

[Allio]

B-But my Toothlessxhiccup FanFiction

[Powder]

There's no reason for you not to still be excited about it, if you take no issue with the direction of the film. Don't let a vocal minority's twisted knickers sour your enjoyment of something.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

"Hetero Agenda"

Lol, Okay.

[Autbot_Benz]

That face you make when a triggered post isn't started by papenbrook

https://i.imgur.com/lqWuOPQ.gif

[Candy Kappa]

To bad it's just a trolling thread about taking umbrage against some that dislike lazy and out-of-character-for-the-movies creature designs, cause beyond the "Miss Bunny from Bambi" dragon I'm interested in more HttyD

[Redeemer]

That face you make when a triggered post isn't started by papenbrook

https://i.imgur.com/lqWuOPQ.gif

Its Papenbrook's second account :lol: jk

Im a little disappointed, bc I liked the idea of him being the last of his kind. But I really love the first 2 movies so I will see this one regardless. :P

[NinjaPug]

Who cares what a random person you don't know says about a film they haven't seen any footage of on social media?

[Vegita-San]

whats the problem with the design?

all the dragons pretty much look alike with the various species.

They just made this one look white, and for the purposes of the photo 'in cute dog pose mode'. just like toothless is usually shown when he's not fighting.

what's the problem?

[AT-Man]

They could have gone with something neat, like the girl dragon being bigger or more dangerous looking. Cute dragons are an abomination.

[drgon78]

Last I remember she is supposed to be a light furry and a water type dragon and not a white night furry.

You know you can just ignore this crap, the internet is not the real world, just a place for idiots to be idiots and a fun place for the rest of us.

[Vegita-San]

ahh yes, the old, girl dragons have to be bad ass excuse ;o)

[Candy Kappa]

ahh yes, the old, girl dragons have to be bad ass excuse ;o)

because a soft feminine version of the male dragon is better? She only lacks the long eye lashes to complete the stereotypical look with her having a smaller snout, dainty head frill-antennae, been waxed of her scales and caked in glitter. There's no other extremes in sexual dimorphism among the other dragon species, like Astrid's Stormfly who is a female dragon looks basically the same as a male Deadly Nadder.

Considering that the HttyD designers have created some great designs in previous installments, this is just so risk-less, predicable, downright lazy and functionally incorrect of what we know of Night Furies.

[Vegita-San]

all we know of night furries is toothless.

who knows what the others look like?

and that giant dragon from part 2 had different colors to them. I think one was male and one was female iirc.

I don't see the big deal.

maybe when she goes into battle mode her eyes turn red and she grows spikes or something.

[plastroncafe]

Aww look, she's an Eve to his Wall-E.
Because of course she is.

The design doesn't look at that inspired to me, that said...the creators have done a really good job with character design in the past, so I'm willing to lend them the benefit of the doubt with this.

I mean, she doesn't have hair, eyelashes, or lipstick...so that's a bonus.

That's assuming that Toothless isn't the female.

[AT-Man]

That's assuming that Toothless isn't the female.

Now that would be something!




I suddenly find calling Furies "furries" funny.

[Redeemer]

That's assuming that Toothless isn't the female.

I think thats a safe assumption considering they refer to him as "he" and "boy"
:lol:

[Andrew NDB]

It's better just to not humor or give this kind of crazy talk a platform. And I suspect the original Facebook post might be just someone trying to rabble-rouse people.

[plastroncafe]

Yes, and that precedent was set in the first movie, where the whole point was how little humans knew about dragons.

Most people don't know the sex of their reptiles until one of them lays eggs, or in the case of snakes a probe is employed.

Toothless is dark/drab in color, and we know they hunt.
Most female animals are dark/drab in color when compared to their male counter parts, and in some species the females are the ones that do the hunting.

Conversely, in the new poster the other Night Fury is white. Since in nature males are more likely than females to be flashy in appearance, I'd say that's as good a reason as any that the new dragon could be male.

Plus, if we look at Yin and Yang, white is the masculine color while black is the feminine.

[Candy Kappa]

The previous owners of my first pet turtle thought he was female and they had him for over 10 years before they sold him. They even tried to introduce him to another male turtle in hopes of getting "cute baby turtles to keep", strangely they tried to kill each other...

[plastroncafe]

I rescued the turtle I've had the longest from a local no-kill shelter.
The had her listed as a Male Slider named Angelo.
She's a female Reeves named Lois now.

[Candy Kappa]

thats a great name for her :D

Reeves are so distinct from sliders, like I'd get confusing a cooter or a painted for a slider. But someone did the same thing on a reptile group on Facebook

[plastroncafe]

:D
I call her name My Ultimate Geek Test.
And how I knew I had found the right vet for her was that when I walked in one of his techs commented absently about how pretty of a Reeves she was.

[Mayhem]

I think thats a safe assumption considering they refer to him as "he" and "boy" :lol:
Many people have got the wrong sex of their pet over the years.

"How To Sex Your Dragon", anyone? :lol:

[Utrommaniac]

My assumption is that Valka would have confirmed or denied it. If she could tell Toothless' age right away, I'm sure she can do other things.

The other thing is that we already had that plot twist with Meatlug in one of the shorts. Not that it couldn't be done twice, though.

[plastroncafe]

Many people have got the wrong sex of their pet over the years.

"How To Sex Your Dragon", anyone? :lol:

If you're under 18 DO NOT Google that...

[sdp]

It's better just to not humor or give this kind of crazy talk a platform. And I suspect the original Facebook post might be just someone trying to rabble-rouse people.

This, it doesn't belong here. There's always going to be someone complaining about something if you go to any niche. Outrage culture is in both sides, those who are outraged of everything and those who are outraged of everything the people who are outraged about everything. :lol:

I rescued the turtle I've had the longest from a local no-kill shelter.
The had her listed as a Male Slider named Angelo.
She's a female Reeves named Lois now.

Figures you would have a transturtle :lol:

[Vegita-San]

Figures you would have a transturtle :lol:

whether it wants to be or not. ;o)

"But, I've got....!" "Not for long!"

ok, couldn't resist!

[plastroncafe]

Awww you even used the third person pronoun!
We'll make SJ[Designation] of you yet!

[Candy Kappa]

:D
I call her name My Ultimate Geek Test.

I might steal that name idea if I ever go law-abiding turtle owner since reeves are the only turtle that's legal, but the reference might go unnoticed since we don't call them reeves' turtle but Chinese three-keeled turtle

[Redeemer]

Yes, and that precedent was set in the first movie, where the whole point was how little humans knew about dragons.

Most people don't know the sex of their reptiles until one of them lays eggs, or in the case of snakes a probe is employed.

Toothless is dark/drab in color, and we know they hunt.
Most female animals are dark/drab in color when compared to their male counter parts, and in some species the females are the ones that do the hunting.

Conversely, in the new poster the other Night Fury is white. Since in nature males are more likely than females to be flashy in appearance, I'd say that's as good a reason as any that the new dragon could be male.

Plus, if we look at Yin and Yang, white is the masculine color while black is the feminine.

Yeah but hiccups mom who is an expert referred to toothless as "he" as well.

[drgon78]

I can't wait to see this movie even if there are character deaths and the surviving dragons have to be sent to this new world and never seen again...at least in Hiccup's lifetime.

[TigerClaw]

Here's the Trailer

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[plastroncafe]

...oh poor Toothless.
Dragons are like Pandas!

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Vegita-San]

Looks a little too overly detailed...

but over all, interested in where it's going.

shame it's going to be the last one.

[drgon78]

Well the last one with these characters anyway.

I am sure they will leave it open at the end with the dragons going away and then a human in a later time period(more then likely now) finding them or at least one of the dragons.

[TigerClaw]

Well the last one with these characters anyway.

I am sure they will leave it open at the end with the dragons going away and then a human in a later time period(more then likely now) finding them or at least one of the dragons.
They can continue on with the animated series though. It got renewed for a sixth and final season.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DreamWorks_Dragons

[Redeemer]

I am kind of underwhelmed by the trailer.... I loved the first two movies so much. curse my incredibly high expectations :lol:

[drgon78]

Yeah, I know about the animated series but this will be the last of the movies...with these characters. I would love a time jump to modern times with a female main character(redhead) though maybe a new species as her dragon.

[TurtleTitan97]

I would love a time jump to modern times with a female main character(redhead) though maybe a new species as her dragon.

No offense, but that sounds kinda like a bad fan-fiction plot.

[Vegita-San]

It MIGHT kind of be interesting if you brought the village descendants back to the PAST but not go to the future. and only for either a movie plot, or a few episodes of tv plot. no more.

[Utrommaniac]

Hooo Hiccup's beard at the start...'bout freakin' time.

I've heard rumor that there's also plans for at least five movies, but I don't recall. One of which involving Hiccup and Astrid's kids?

It surprises me that there's another season though. That season finale felt like a pretty good ending to me.

[drag0nfeathers]

I saw the preview and I actually like the Light Fury's character design <3 I think she's super cute and I sort of could see the "Light Fury" thing coming. Clever. (not that all the dragons aren't different colors anyway, but I know some were confused as to why she wasn't also black)

Anyway, I didn't post the initial post as a way to start a problem or a huge debate. I was mostly peeved for the simple fact of social media and political agendas already bashing the film just for the simple fact Toothless is going to obviously get a mate. It was sad he was the only one of his kind, so why not?

I started a "joke" on Facebook this same day #savethenightfury and now I'm seeing it all over the place. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who posted it that day but I thought it was pretty funny to see a lot of HHTYD fans were outraged over the debate.

I still can't wait to see it. I'm sad this will be the last one by the look of it.

[Mayhem]

I saw the preview and I actually like the Light Fury's character design <3 I think she's super cute and I sort of could see the "Light Fury" thing coming. Clever. (not that all the dragons aren't different colors anyway, but I know some were confused as to why she wasn't also black)
If you look at birds for example, in most species, male and female are different colours, although maybe not as radical as here heh.

[Candy Kappa]

If you look at birds for example, in most species, male and female are different colours, although maybe not as radical as here heh.

sexual dimorphism is usually most obvious in birds, but it's the male that's most standing out when it comes to color variations. Then there's the infamous Eclectus parrot that are so different in colors it was until 20th century thought to be different species, but being rain-forest birds they colorful plumage still serves a camouflage purpose.

But, the white dragon is apparently a different species that was originally a off-shoot from Night Furies, but the criticism on the design still stands.
https://78.media.tumblr.com/571f4023abe5e6644e278ee3c61a9b15/tumblr_inline_pa4vyfkBP81rawf1u_500.jpg