View Full Version : Andrew's Wish comes true Geoff Johns Exiting DC Entertainment President and Chief
Autbot_Benz
06-11-2018, 12:31 PM
Geoff Johns is stepping down as DC Entertainment president and chief creative officer, Variety has learned. He will be transitioning to a new role and will be given some sort of writing and producing deal with DC Comics and Warner Bros. to cushion his landing.
The move comes days after news broke that Diane Nelson is leaving as president of DC Entertainment following a long sabbatical. It also takes place amidst a larger shakeup in the way that DC is approaching its movie-making operations.
Following Johns’ departure, DC Entertainment Publisher Jim Lee will expand his role to include the chief creative officer title.
Johns was one of the rare executives who not only produced comic book movies, he also authored the graphic novels and series that inspired them. Under his new deal, one of Johns’ first film projects will be “Green Lantern Corps,” which is based on a bestselling series that he oversaw. He will write and be a producer on the film.
Johns’ ouster has been rumored for some time. In January, Warner Bros., DC’s corporate sibling, promoted Walter Hamada to oversee its comic book movies. Hamada supplanted Johns, who the studio said would continue to advise on the creative direction of the productions. As part of that shift, Jon Berg also exited as the co-head of the DC movies to become a production partner with Roy Lee, the producer of “The Lego Movie” and “It.”
Johns is a respected creative talent, known for his prodigious knowledge of comic book lore and his deep ties to the fanboy community. That hasn’t translated into successful movies, however.
DC’s film division has struggled to match the track record of rival Marvel, which keeps releasing one blockbuster after another as its cinematic universe of costumed heroes continues to grow. DC did hit the zeitgeist with last summer’s “Wonder Woman,” but struck out with last fall’s “Justice League,” an embarrassing film flop that Johns produced. “Suicide Squad” and “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” did well at the box office, but were creatively excoriated.
Johns co-wrote and executive produced “Aquaman,” which will debut globally on Dec. 21. He is also writing and executive producing the second installment of the “Wonder Woman” franchise. That film hits theaters in November 2019.
https://variety.com/2018/film/news/geoff-johns-exiting-as-dc-entertainment-president-1202840461/
Andrew NDB
06-11-2018, 12:35 PM
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Sumac
06-11-2018, 12:44 PM
Failure of DCCU surely has a resounding effect.
Krutch
06-11-2018, 01:16 PM
Just reboot the damn thing already. See how Aquaman performs and keep making Wonder Woman solo films so long as they still pull in money. After the Wonder Woman (and if successful, Aquaman) series conclude, take a few years off to restore brand faith. Release a CG cartoon movie here and there while internally restructuring how to approach the next reboot.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-11-2018, 01:27 PM
Just reboot the damn thing already. See how Aquaman performs and keep making Wonder Woman solo films so long as they still pull in money. After the Wonder Woman (and if successful, Aquaman) series conclude, take a few years off to restore brand faith. Release a CG cartoon movie here and there while internally restructuring how to approach the next reboot.
No no, no hiatus.
X-Men First Class the thing. Keep Gal Gadot, maybe Jason Momoa and Henry Cavill...
And recast everybody else. Don't bother making the continuity make sense, just make a good movie. Get a lot of people excited with a recast Flash, a recast Batman (or reannounce Ben Affleck), a Green Lantern, and Martian Manhunter or Hawkgirl or somebody... announce Darkseid or somebody, and get an AMAZING director that everybody loves.
Then come up with a new title that says "Justice League" without just being "Justice League." :trazz:
I think that's what they have to do to stay in the game. Taking their time to build a universe is what they should have done after Man of Steel. Now, they need to rebuild. And X-Men First Class already kinda proved that you can do that midstream.
AquaParade
06-11-2018, 01:29 PM
After Justice League, I just lost all interest in following the DC Movie Universe news. Not just because of how poor the film was, but also the constant announcements and cancellations of upcoming DC films. All of it together, was just exhausting, dizzying. I lost the sense of anticipation or fun.
This coming from someone who voraciously follows most comic book/comic book movie/video game news. Sometimes I enjoy just discussing or hypothesizing so much, it becomes more entertaining than the products themselves.
It's not that I don't "care" about the DC film universe anymore. I just don't care to keep up on any of the news. Hype officially deflated. I'll be there for upcoming releases. I'll be excited to see a new Batman or Superman movie. For sure. But you can call me when they're ready. Maybe after success, I'll find the DC film universe interesting enough to discuss again (He says while typing out a two paragraph summary of his feelings about the DC film universe, while he should be working).
Oh, and congrats to Geoff Johns, I suppose. Hope he is happy with his new position. And to end on some positivity, I'm absolutely enamored with the DC tv film universe coming together right now. Doom Patrol and Swamp Thing? Count me in!
Andrew NDB
06-11-2018, 01:33 PM
Then come up with a new title that says "Justice League" without just being "Justice League." :trazz:
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CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-11-2018, 01:51 PM
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Y'know, I actually thought of that...
But they'd have to change it for the foreign box office, like they did for Captain America. Didn't they change at least the first Captain America film's title in China?
Also, Geoff Johns' new company website is up... http://www.madghostproductions.com/category/film/
Hal Jordan and John Stewart!
They can't reboot anything, Wonder Woman was a hit and they won't want to let that one go, they've also scrapped their plans many times already since Green Lantern failed. They're too far in to just restructure. It's either scrap everything or continue on and they'll continue on somehow.
DC is a mess.
ProphetofGanja
06-11-2018, 02:41 PM
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Y'know, I actually thought of that...
But they'd have to change it for the foreign box office, like they did for Captain America. Didn't they change at least the first Captain America film's title in China?
Also, Geoff Johns' new company website is up... http://www.madghostproductions.com/category/film/
Hal Jordan and John Stewart!
Justice League of America? Great comic title, terrible movie title. Too long, too Amerocentric, like Cylons said. Personally, I think they could make The Justice League work. It's iconic enough where I think they'd be protected against the trend of movies with "the" in the title underperforming.
And yeah, they could totally do a soft reboot on the fky, no need to buke the while DCCU. Just reimagine/recast the characters who didn't land the first go round or who want out of their roles (Jared Leto, Ben Affleck, etc.)
I think Henry Cavill made a decent brooding Superman but the DCCU really needs a bright and sunshiney Boy Scout Superman, not the uber dark and gritty one we got.
Andrew NDB
06-11-2018, 02:46 PM
Also, Geoff Johns' new company website is up... http://www.madghostproductions.com/category/film/
I notice he doesn't include "Green Lantern" (2011) on there or Justice League. I wonder how long until he removes Aquaman and Shazam from there. :)
ProphetofGanja
06-11-2018, 02:50 PM
I notice he doesn't include "Green Lantern" (2011) on there or Justice League. I wonder how long until he removes Aquaman and Shazam from there. :)
Do you think Aquaman is gonna be dead in the water when it's released then, Andrew?
Andrew NDB
06-11-2018, 02:54 PM
Do you think Aquaman is gonna be dead in the water when it's released then, Andrew?
There really isn't enough to be able to tell. But probably. It probably means something that it comes out in 5 months and all we've seen is a shirtless Momoa picture.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-11-2018, 02:56 PM
There really isn't enough to be able to tell. But probably. It probably means something that it comes out in 5 months and all we've seen is a shirtless Momoa picture.
The defense is that the CGI for the water is a massive undertaking and Wan doesn't want to release anything until it's good to go.
I don't think that's entirely suspect... but it's not entirely NOT suspect, either, I suppose.
Andrew NDB
06-11-2018, 03:03 PM
The defense is that the CGI for the water is a massive undertaking and Wan doesn't want to release anything until it's good to go.
No way 100%, or even 60% of the movie is all underwater. That'd be like the most expensive movie ever.
Surely they could show something if they really wanted to.
NinjaPug
06-11-2018, 03:06 PM
Filming has been wrapped for 8 months. Plenty of time to get your vfx in order for at least some sort of teaser.
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-11-2018, 03:10 PM
No way 100%, or even 60% of the movie is all underwater. That'd be like the most expensive movie ever.
Surely they could show something if they really wanted to.
But then the complaints would be "Where's the water!?"
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I just... I dunno.
Give the rights back to Marvel, maybe? :trazz:
MikeandRaph87
06-11-2018, 04:06 PM
I am sure even if it was Universal's blunder Aquaman does not want to be associated with Waterworld.
I for one am looking forward to what this movie will be. It is going all out as Aquaman possibly can. I don't like Jason's Aquaman-look, but with both Black Manta and Ocean Master involved and the careful nature of the project I think it will be a good film. I have hopes for this film and since we got confirmation on the leads of Green Lantern Corps I have two movies that I am interested in from my preferred comic company.
Autbot_Benz
06-11-2018, 06:20 PM
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Hardcore DCEU/Snyder Worshipping fanboys be like
NinjaPug
06-11-2018, 06:58 PM
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Hardcore DCEU/Snyder Worshipping fanboys be like
I've seen some Snyder fans convinced that Johns was fired because he was the one responsible for getting Snyder removed from Justice League.
Autbot_Benz
06-11-2018, 07:14 PM
I've seen some Snyder fans convinced that Johns was fired because he was the one responsible for getting Snyder removed from Justice League.
doesn't surprise me those Snyder fans are crazy. They treat Snyder like a Messiah.
Andrew NDB
06-11-2018, 08:40 PM
I've seen some Snyder fans convinced that Johns was fired because he was the one responsible for getting Snyder removed from Justice League.
That may sound crazy to you or I... but think about it. Snyder's original version might not have been good (or maybe it would have?)... but even BvS made more money than God. The only thing shareholders and investors are going to care about is "So who is it that made us shoot the movie a second time, double the budget... and STILL have it underperform lower than all other DCEU movies????"
If it was Geoff, then his head was on the chopping block.
Sumac
06-11-2018, 10:57 PM
doesn't surprise me those Snyder fans are crazy. They treat Snyder like a Messiah.
I know one guy like this.
He is quite normal otherwise, but when someone dare to criticize "awesome vision of maestro Snyder" he goes of the rails and blames everything and everyone, from Marvel / Disney conspiracy to people being unprepared to understand "Snyder's majestic visionary genius".
Which why it is fun to poke him about that. :lol:
Autbot_Benz
06-12-2018, 12:33 AM
I know one guy like this.
He is quite normal otherwise, but when someone dare to criticize "awesome vision of maestro Snyder" he goes of the rails and blames everything and everyone, from Marvel / Disney conspiracy to people being unprepared to understand "Snyder's majestic visionary genius".
Which why it is fun to poke him about that. :lol:
yup that sounds like a Snyder fanboy
I love Snyder's style, if only his stories were a little bit tighter he'd be my perfect director. 300, Watchmen, that owl movie, BatmanVSuperman, Suckerpunch, MoS are all movies I loved or at least enjoyed. There's always a few things here and there that drop them from being all time favorites and it's usually story.
He definitely doesn't deserve the hate that he gets and I'd rather watch any of his movies than Whedon's Borefests.
Andrew NDB
06-12-2018, 10:50 AM
Snyder's kind of the definition of a "visionary director." He just doesn't understand story, like Ridley Scott.
Snyder with a good script, you get the "Dawn of the Dead" remake, or "300," or "Watchmen." Great movies, IMHO.
Snyder writing his own stuff... you get "Sucker Punch." Or a bunch of "iconic" comic books spliced together to form BvS.
Sumac
06-12-2018, 12:57 PM
Snyder has a good eye for a good picture and special effects, but he absolutely sucks at everything else.
And ideal solution would have been Snyder on picture, someone else on dialogues and characters.
Andrew NDB
07-23-2018, 11:47 AM
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https://www.cbr.com/johns-reinvent-green-lantern-dc/
“I’m going to be hopefully delivering a script that Warner loves and DC likes and they want to make it,” Johns concluded, adding it’s “going to celebrate the mythology and reinvent it in a different way.”
In other words, it's almost 2019 and there's still no script and even if there is, maybe WB just passes on it. This is quite a promotion for Johns, all right.
Let's get it straight. So... Geoff Johns simultaneously "steps down" as both CCO and DC Entertainment president for the big opportunity to... eh, write a draft of "Green Lantern Corps" for WB that they have no obligation to humor?
Sumac
07-23-2018, 01:01 PM
Guess, WB overlords have tired of DCCU ********.
Andrew NDB
06-06-2019, 11:09 AM
I wonder when they will start filming Geoff's "Green Lantern Corps" script that he was "promoted" away from being DC CCO and WB Entertainment CEO to write. Surely soon, if it's going to meet its 2020 date!
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CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
06-06-2019, 11:21 AM
I wonder when they will start filming Geoff's "Green Lantern Corps" script that he was "promoted" away from being DC CCO and WB Entertainment CEO to write. Surely soon, if it's going to meet its 2020 date!
:lol:
Who would you rather have write a Green Lantern Corps script? Any particular writers, film or comic, come to mind?
Andrew NDB
06-06-2019, 11:37 AM
Who would you rather have write a Green Lantern Corps script? Any particular writers, film or comic, come to mind?
Let Grant Morrison take a stab at it. Or Christopher McQuarrie.
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