James Gunn Re-hired for GOTG Vol 3

[Autbot_Benz]

James Gunn is exiting Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3.

The move comes after conservative personalities resurfaced old tweets in which the filmmaker joked about controversial topics such as pedophelia and rape. Gunn, who has been an outspoken critic of President Donald Trump, has since deleted his Twitter account.

"The offensive attitudes and statements discovered on James’ Twitter feed are indefensible and inconsistent with our studio’s values, and we have severed our business relationship with him," said Walt Disney Studios chairman Alan Horn in a statement.

Before deleting his account, Gunn tweeted, "Many people who have followed my career know when I started, I viewed myself as a provocateur, making movies and telling jokes that were outrageous and taboo. As I have discussed publicly many times, as I’ve developed as a person, so has my work and my humor."

Gunn has been writing the script for Guardians 3, and the movie was expected to begin shooting in Atlanta in the fall for an expected 2020 release date. The Guardians movies have been a massive success for Disney and Marvel. The first movie made more than $773 million worldwide while the second made $863 million. The films stood out from other Marvel movies as they were infused with Gunn's off-kilter filmmaking sensibilities that owed more to indie genre movies than slicker cookie cutter studio fare.

More to come.





https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/james-gunn-exits-guardians-galaxy-vol-3-1128786?utm_source=Direct&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral

[TurtleTitan97]

Well this sucks. :(

[plastroncafe]

Huh.
Well that's a damn shame on many fronts.
I've been making my way through his interview on the podcast "Inside You" with Michael Rosenbaum, and he's certainly honest about his early life and early opinions and how he's grown.

[Andrew NDB]

Jesus, no one in Hollywood should have a Twitter anymore.

[Candy Kappa]

That's a huge bummer

[Andrew NDB]

I wonder how come Disney executives are able to randomly fire directors out from under Feige, particularly proven ones. I thought Feige and Marvel Studios had basic autonomy.

[plastroncafe]

This here is good proof of what happens when someone assumes they're in a safe space, and they're not.

Mr Weasley warned us:
"“Ginny!" said Mr. Weasley, flabbergasted. "Haven't I taught you anything? What have I always told you? Never trust anything that can think for itself if you can't see where it keeps its brain?”

[TigerClaw]

This is going to affect Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3. He's been writing it. and the film is supposed to be released in 2020. Now Marvel has to find a new director. And possibly a new writer if they decide not to go with his script.

[NinjaPug]

Didn't these decade old tweets come out prior to the first GOTG? I could've sworn there was already a big discussion about this.

Crazy that Disney makes this move now. He's been extremely outspoken about Trump recently. I hope that didn't play a factor in his removal.

[TigerClaw]

Didn't these decade old tweets come out prior to the first GOTG? I could've sworn there was already a big discussion about this.

Crazy that Disney makes this move now. He's been extremely outspoken about Trump recently. I hope that didn't play a factor in his removal.
This is going to affect the MCU as a whole. He was in charge of spearheading the cosmic side of the MCU in Phase 4.

[MikeandRaph87]

Ah,man. This really going to derail thevquirky awesomness of the franchise. I hope Disney knows what it is doing!

[Andrew NDB]

I looked at the tweets. A... different kind of a sense of humor, to be sure, but he's very obviously joking in each and every one of them.

F*** Disney.

[neatoman]

Bottom line, if you want to say something ****ed up online, do it anonymously.

[NinjaPug]

**** Disney is right.

I'm positive this was brought up before the first movie. Disney knew then. Just like Disney knew what they were getting when they brought Roseanne back. This BS self righteousness after the fact is disgusting.

[plastroncafe]

Ah, but back then Gunn wasn't pointing his ire at a sitting administration.
The world was a different place then.

[ranger_scout]

It's extremely shameful that Gunn behaved that way. As a result of his actions the man who made the Guardians of Galaxy staples in the Marvel Cinematic Universe won't be coming back to do the third one.

I will say that if Disney gets Joss Whedon to replace him, then would be extremely disappointing and would make no sense whatsoever. That man tweeted that he wished Paul Ryan would be raped to death by a rhinoceros. He also poked fun at cancer survivors who visited Ryan. Plus, his fan website was shut down after all of the awful things that were revealed about him in an essay that his ex-wife had written.

[plastroncafe]

'Guardians of the Galaxy' Director James Gunn Apologizes for Controversial Jokes: 'I'm Sorry and Regret Making Them at All' (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/guardians-galaxy-director-james-gunn-395796)

6:21 PM PST 11/29/2012 by Seth Abramovitch

Dang it, looks like those conservative personalities were scooped!

[Andrew NDB]

will say that if Disney gets Joss Whedon to replace him, then would be extremely disappointing and would make no sense whatsoever. That man tweeted that he wished Paul Ryan would be raped to death by a rhinoceros. He also poked fun at cancer survivors who visited Ryan. Plus, his fan website was shut down after all of the awful things that were revealed about him in an essay that his ex-wife had written.

Joss Whedon is totally gone, mentally. He's like a big putrid ball of hate and bile now.

[NinjaPug]

So it was Trump supporters that led the charge in this - they did the digging and rallied together on Twitter to bring it to the attention of Disney.

Terrible precedent set here.

[Candy Kappa]

Not just Trump supporters, but the freaking pizzagate folks apparently. It's laughable that Disney gave those people any time.

[plastroncafe]

I'd imagine it's more than possible that this was the final straw. The proverbial feather to land on the already heaping pile of wank that they've maybe put up with from him, and it was just easier to use this as an excuse to let him go.

Because...again, none of this was unknown.
And it's not like Disney doesn't already employ a bunch of morally questionable people in high profile franchises.

*cough*Johnny Depp*cough*

[Autbot_Benz]

Not just Trump supporters, but the freaking pizzagate folks apparently. It's laughable that Disney gave those people any time.

more proof Trump Supporters are womenless snowflake manbabies :x. There is a hastag rehire james gunn on twitter going

[CyberCubed]

Goodbye, sweet prince.

[drgon78]

Well looks like I will be skipping GotG3.

[TigerClaw]

I'm gonna see GOTG Vol 3 regardless if James Gunn is involved or not.

[Andrew NDB]

Now we get a sh***y GotG3 by probably a studio filter director... but at least social justice was served.

https://scontent-lax3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/a32f9df9efe20429af88313cea83f826/5BAACD60/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/c214.0.652.652/29717424_1536881226416358_5404379424688701440_n.jp g

And that's the real victory...

[NinjaPug]

They'll probably do a page one rewrite too just to scrub Gunn's name completely from this.

[Turo602]

I honestly don't see the humor in his tweets... I mean, what? Like, where's the joke? While I'm still baffled at what he wrote, I think it's clear it was done to be edgy and weird, and honestly, I don't see why he should be fired for that. Especially 10 years later. I get Disney is trying to protect themselves and distance themselves from his mess right now, but that's just really sh*tty for Gunn.

[Autbot_Benz]

The Same disney that fired gun still hires Johnny " I beat my wife" Deep. so go figure

[Candy Kappa]

Now we get a sh***y GotG3 by probably a studio filter director... but at least social justice was served.

https://scontent-lax3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/a32f9df9efe20429af88313cea83f826/5BAACD60/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/c214.0.652.652/29717424_1536881226416358_5404379424688701440_n.jp g

And that's the real victory...

Wait... are Trump supporters social justice warriors too now? :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

The Same disney that fired gun still hires Johnny " I beat my wife" Deep. so go figure

Allegedly beat his wife.

OK, he probably did it. But that's an important distinction.

Wait... are Trump supporters social justice warriors too now? :lol:

They can be, sure. Though regardless of who "Called Dad" on this, it was the Disney suits who kowtowed to it. They didn't have to.

[NinjaPug]

Gunn made a pedophilia joke over a decade ago. They were aware of it prior to working with him 6 years ago but fired him over it now.

Meanwhile the same Disney hired a convicted pedophile to write and direct Powder two decades ago.

[MikeandRaph87]

This was years ago though. It was even before Vol. 1 went into production. Why not call him in then? I was embarrassed about Jason Biggs attachment to TMNT even if he did not insult Romney and Ryan in front of children on Twitter. This guy is not like that as a person evolved and put out quality films since then. Forgive and forget. Who is Disney going to Gunn for next?:trazz:

[plastroncafe]

Wait... are Trump supporters social justice warriors too now? :lol:

This is what the narrative demands!

[TigerClaw]

I wonder if this will affect Sean Gunn's involvement. He plays Kraglin and also is the stand in for Rocket.

[Andrew NDB]

I wonder if this will affect Sean Gunn's involvement.

Highly doubtful. Whoever the poor bastard is that they make be the director will probably be doing everything in the world to assure people, "Nope, see? Nothing's different here... it's the same everything as before! Just... no James!"

If anything, they'd probably give Sean Gunn a bigger part.

[Jester]

I love the spin of "With Over 10,000 Tweets, James Gunn promoted Rape and Pedophilia"

No. a hand full of his 10,000 tweets were incredibly tasteless jokes he has since apologized for.

I hate this modern age where Twitter mobs can be released to destroy people you don't like or disagree with.

[TigerClaw]

I love the spin of "With Over 10,000 Tweets, James Gunn promoted Rape and Pedophilia"

No. a hand full of his 10,000 tweets were incredibly tasteless jokes he has since apologized for.

I hate this modern age where Twitter mobs can be released to destroy people you don't like or disagree with.
People just need to stop using Twitter to post your opinions on things. Cause they always open a can of worms.

[Jester]

People just need to realize that no 2 people are going to see eye to eye on everything and stop taking difference of opinions as grounds to decimate each other.

[Andrew NDB]

Stuff like this just sets horrible precedent, as well. Now the next time someone unearths from colorful tweet from any actor 10 or more years ago, the SJWs will rattle away with, "Well you guys fired James Gunn back in 2018... now you guys HAVE to fire this new person, too, and if you don't... WTF??!??"

[Autbot_Benz]

James Gunn's Response



“My words of nearly a decade ago were, at the time, totally failed and unfortunate efforts to be provocative. I have regretted them for many years since — not just because they were stupid, not at all funny, wildly insensitive, and certainly not provocative like I had hoped, but also because they don’t reflect the person I am today or have been for some time.”

“Regardless of how much time has passed, I understand and accept the business decisions taken today. Even these many years later, I take full responsibility for the way I conducted myself then. All I can do now, beyond offering my sincere and heartfelt regret, is to be the best human being I can be: accepting, understanding, committed to equality, and far more thoughtful about my public statements and my obligations to our public discourse. To everyone inside my industry and beyond, I again offer my deepest apologies. Love to all.”

https://deadline.com/2018/07/james-gunn-responds-marvel-firing-guardians-of-the-galaxy-for-tweets-1202430535/

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

This is bullsh!t. BULLSH!T.

Dammit, and my favorite MCU film series suffers for it.

[Sumac]

Oh my.

And this is why you don't tweet un-anonymously on Internet.

[Autbot_Benz]

Dave Bautista
‏Verified account @DaveBautista
25m25 minutes ago

I will have more to say but for right now all I will say is this..@JamesGunn is one of the most loving,caring,good natured people I have ever met. He’s gentle and kind and cares deeply for people and animals. He’s made mistakes. We all have. Im NOT ok with what’s happening to him

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Dave Bautista
‏Verified account @DaveBautista
25m25 minutes ago

I will have more to say but for right now all I will say is this..@JamesGunn is one of the most loving,caring,good natured people I have ever met. He’s gentle and kind and cares deeply for people and animals. He’s made mistakes. We all have. Im NOT ok with what’s happening to him

I'm expecting to see pretty much the entire cast of GOTG 1 and 2 come out in his defense... Saldana, Gillian, Pratt, Mary Poppins...

[Autbot_Benz]

I'm expecting to see pretty much the entire cast of GOTG 1 and 2 come out in his defense... Saldana, Gillian, Pratt, Mary Poppins...

Personally the cast should boycott staring in Vol 3 unless Gunn is brought back. Rooker already changed his facebook banner to a shot of Gunn and the whole Vol 2 Cast

[CyberCubed]

They're getting paid millions of dollars for their roles, they won't give that up.

[Shark_Blade]

Gotg sucks anyway so no actual loss.

[TurtleTitan97]

Gotg sucks anyway so no actual loss.

Says you. Fans and critcs say otherwise.

[Autbot_Benz]

Gotg sucks anyway so no actual loss.

Wrong as usual
https://i.imgur.com/klNfCk7.png

[AT-Man]

Oh well, for me the MCU was gonna end after Avengers 4, anyway.

[XERO]

If only Walt Disney himself had a Twitter account back then, right?

[Xav]

more proof Trump Supporters are womenless snowflake manbabies :x.Right because anti-Trump people never get offended by anything on Twitter :roll:.

[plastroncafe]

Nah, those people actually get offended by things on Twitter. These are crisis actors.

The guy issuing most of the complaints has said worse and more recently than Gunn has.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

They're getting paid millions of dollars for their roles, they won't give that up.

Actually, they wouldn't be ALLOWED to give it up.

They signed contracts; they're stuck going forward without Gunn, whether they like it or not.

[oldmanwinters]

It's all fun n' games until somebody's favorite movie franchise gets negatively impacted.

[MikeandRaph87]

If only Walt Disney himself had a Twitter account back then, right?

He would have been one of the first people in trouble wirh his high profile anti-sematic views.


People are taking this too far. Someone says sometbing years ago and tries to dangle it to make an issue of it and a person is immediately fired because of fear of a loss of profit. The tattle tale digging up dirt is the villain and money is the root of cowardice. I was hoping this would not get out of hand and fools get what they deserve WHEN they offend. Perhaps defending Gunn can help direct people in knowing when it is an issue to act and if it even is an issue.

[NinjaPug]

Why fire him now and not back in 2012 when this was brought to light after you hired him? I get that the fake outrage culture is more prevalent now but that's no reason to fire him today. It's not like this was a new tweet or was suddenly dug up. He hasn't said anything sensational since Disney hired him years ago.

I'm still pissed about this.

[AT-Man]

https://i.imgur.com/jAgaJiy.jpg

[Autbot_Benz]

Add Micheal "Yondu" Rooker to the people taking Gunn's Side on this.


MichaelRookerOnline
‏Verified account @RookerOnline
10m10 minutes ago

MichaelRookerOnline Retweeted james electric

James Gunn knows. That’s all that matters.

MichaelRookerOnline added,
james electric
@NogginCalaboose
As a longtime collobrator with @JamesGunn I would like to hear what @RookerOnline has to say about this madness.
8 replies 11 retweets 108 likes

[MikeandRaph87]

Gunn unlike most is actually getting support. Hope Cernovich keeps feeling the pressure.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thewrap.com/james-gunn-mike-cernovich-turns-toward-patton-oswalt-michael-ian-black/amp/

[Galactus]

It's not like Gunn having a crappy sense of humor was not unknown to Disney prior to this, his filmography is a more than a giveaway and his tweets where brought into public discourse years ago and the guy apologized and people largely seemed to accept that he'd grown up a lot since he made those tweets.

It's bizarre that Disney caved to the ridiculous figure like Cernovich.

Stuff like this just sets horrible precedent, as well. Now the next time someone unearths from colorful tweet from any actor 10 or more years ago, the SJWs will rattle away with, "Well you guys fired James Gunn back in 2018... now you guys HAVE to fire this new person, too, and if you don't... WTF??!??"

Seriously?

You do realize that it was not the 'SJWs' that got Gunn fired it was a conspiracy theory peddling far right MAGA chud that orchestrated all of this.

All because Gunn is anti-Trump and criticized a conservative pundit. Cernovich can't possibly be that outraged by Gunn's tweets given the kinda things he regularly tweets out. This was punishing Gunn for having a difference of political opinion.

I realize that you have an agenda given a lot of threads you start on here but even as the side you defend blatantly do the kind of actions that you accuse others of you're still more scared of social justice?

[Andrew NDB]

The general narrative at large, as I understand it:

Trump supporters mad at Gunn unearthed some ancient tweets Gunn did way back and MADE him get fired by Disney!! It's the far right's fault!

Like, that's it. That's the company line. Period.

But... why did Disney have to fire him? No, really... why? Would he have gotten fired similarly if this had been "unearthed"... say, two years ago? Or is this because of the ire spun from the SJW/#metoo movement, and pretty much every movie studio on Earth being on high alert as a result? "But Disney had no choice! The far right made it a crusade!!!" Wow, OK... what are you talking about? Who was holding a gun to Disney's head, exactly? Far, far worse folks have kept around for far worse.

And I'm saying this as someone who doesn't agree with Gunn's politics but generally enjoys his movies.

[Galactus]

You're overlooking that these tweets were unearthed six years ago and many people including SJWs came for him then but Gunn apologised and explained how he'd changed and grown up a lot since he made those tweets and generally people seemed to accept that.

That was the end of it. These people who you portray as unforgiving and love rabidly going after poor public figures and get them fired for innocent japes accepted these tweets did not represent Gunn now and let him be.

Then a section of the MAGA crowd who already didn't like Gunn for his current political views decided that him criticising Ben Shapiro was the last straw and went after him and he hasn't been the only target.

Sure, there's an element of MAGAs turning the left's morality against them. That's something the 4chan lot get a real kick out of and feature a lot in their plans. In this case they thought hey, if Disney fired Roseanne for bad tweets we'll make sure Disney does the same to Gunn otherwise we can portray them as massive hypocrites.

Thing is the two situations are only surface level similar and Cernovich is also using this to further his stupid conspiracy theories ie: why was Gunn joking about pedophilia *nudge *nudge which is far more sinister than anything done to Roseanne. You'd think Cernovich would be wary of equating what people joke about on Twitter with reality given what he routinely tweets about.

It's stupid that Disney folded on this and sets a terrible precedent of letting these idiots play them in this way simply because Gunn had a political opinion they did not like. Again, I point out it was the far right assholes that did this and yet you're still putting the blame on a group that had nothing to do with this.

[Autbot_Benz]

As of Now Dave Bautista Micheal Rooker and Sean Gunn have shown their support for James. Nothing yet from Chris Pratt or Zoe Saldana.


Also their was a petition to rehire James Gunn and it got all the signatures they needed in record time. So I am not expecting it to do anything thought it was cool.

MichaelRookerOnline
‏Verified account @RookerOnline
13m13 minutes ago

2/2
This account will be inactive after today. We're very tired & upset over the ongoing BS neither I nor my rep will use Twitter again. Twitter sucks and I want nothing to do with it. ( not sure if it has to do with the Gunn Stuff or not)

[ZariusTwo]

Also their was a petition to rehire James Gunn and it got all the signatures they needed in record time. So I am not expecting it to do anything thought it was cool.)

Enablihg Pedo culture is "cool?"

In addition to making light of the subject, Gunn was friends with a guy who was convicted of possessing child porn. 'Nuff said.

People need to get their priorities straight. All Gunn has contributed are two brainless helpings of capes*it. That is not bigger than making light of Child abuse. At any juncture. At any point.

[Andrew NDB]

Enablihg Pedo culture is "cool?"

Nonsense.

In addition to making light of the subject, Gunn was friends with a guy who was convicted of possessing child porn. 'Nuff said.

People need to get their priorities straight. All Gunn has contributed are two brainless helpings of capes*it. That is not bigger than making light of Child abuse. At any juncture. At any point.

To summarize... he knew someone convicted of possessing child porn, so he's clearly knee deep in it? And the GotG movies aren't that good so who cares? Equally nonsense. Irrelevant, in this case. GotG is a pretty big hard sell on paper but he managed to do it... someone else could have easily, easily fumbled the ball.

[Autbot_Benz]

Enablihg Pedo culture is "cool?"

In addition to making light of the subject, Gunn was friends with a guy who was convicted of possessing child porn. 'Nuff said.

People need to get their priorities straight. All Gunn has contributed are two brainless helpings of capes*it. That is not bigger than making light of Child abuse. At any juncture. At any point.

Gunn wasn't Enabling Pedo Culture he made some tasteless jokes 8 years ago he owned up to them and said he was sorry.

[Mayhem]

I know someone who was convicted of possessing child porn (came as a bit of a shock to many of us who knew him), does that mean anything to do with me? Of course it f’ing does not. So means nothing in relation to Gunn.

[plastroncafe]

Pedo culture.
Love it.

Makes me think of this:
Lane Davis's Civil War (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/lane-davis-ralph-retort-seattle4truth-alt-right)

In September 2015, Lane put out a video titled “Progress: Pedophilia” with the caption “The shocking truth about the left's academic and political ties with pedophilia advocacy.” It starts with a Yiannopoulos article about an obscure Gamergate critic who claimed in a 2005 private chat to be a pedophile, then goes on to make a claim that promoting pedophilia was a “hidden tenet” of the progressive movement. Lane hadn’t posted previously about pedophilia, but the video got more than 8,000 views, 10 times what his uploads typically received, and the comments section quickly filled up with appreciative voices asking Lane for more.

“Friends, with exponential growth maximum degeneracy is just around the corner. Start prepping and organizing now,” wrote one commenter.

“Good video, appreciate the digging. Keep it up,” wrote another.

From that point on, liberal ties to pedophilia became a main thread in Lane’s conspiratorial tapestry, one that could completely set him off. Ralph hosted frequent livestreams, hourlong streaming ******** sessions with contributors to his site. In a May 2016 stream, Lane got in a heated debate with another Ralph-world regular, CehBeachActual, about the future of gender-neutral bathrooms. Lane accused CehBeachActual of advocating for such facilities so he could spy on little girls.

[sdp]

This is actually kind of good news I think, it was done as a win/win situation, either they caved in and did it or they were going to be seen as hypocrites. They used the same tactics the others are using but for themselves, there's a divide in both political extremes because people are not happy with the outcome. So why is this good? It's starting a discussion that this has gone for far too long and it's abusive, no one can be held to those morally high standards and this behavior should not be tolerated, it sucks this guy had to take the bullet but if it provides a change for the future then it's good.

Who am I kidding, nothing will change.

[Andrew NDB]

I know someone who was convicted of possessing child porn (came as a bit of a shock to many of us who knew him), does that mean anything to do with me? Of course it f’ing does not. So means nothing in relation to Gunn.

Yeah, technically any Technodrome member who ever talked to Gobo around here a couple of years ago "knows someone convicted of possessing child porn." I guess we should all turn ourselves in!

[Shark_Blade]

Says you. Fans and critcs say otherwise.These so called fans and critics are sheeple who put Avatar & Transformers on a pedestal. I don’t care about them, I hold my own opinion.

The movies are mediocre at best. Star Lord is so cringe and annoying. The oldie music doesn’t help.

Wrong as usual
https://i.imgur.com/klNfCk7.png

Aww, big baby can’t handle criticism on his fayvorite lil muvi? Sad.

https://i.imgur.com/KlaXeYs.jpg


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50,000 sign petition for Disney to rehire James Gunn for Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
http://ew.com/movies/2018/07/21/james-gunn-petition-disney-rehire-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/

I don’t see Disney backtracking anytime soon, it’ll look bad on them.

[NinjaPug]

Enablihg Pedo culture is "cool?"

In addition to making light of the subject, Gunn was friends with a guy who was convicted of possessing child porn. 'Nuff said.

People need to get their priorities straight. All Gunn has contributed are two brainless helpings of capes*it. That is not bigger than making light of Child abuse. At any juncture. At any point.

This is such a terrible post that you're only making because you hate the MCU movies.

[Spike Spiegel]

Maybe Gunn should challenge his critics to a dance-off...?

Why do people care this much about the so called integrity of the MCU anyway? Disney's consolidated its stranglehold on a huge chunk of media capital, pop culture, and entertainment, as well as the money, influence, and resources that go along with it, and people are jazzed just because that means the X-Men and the Avengers can be in a film together.

[Candy Kappa]

Maybe Gunn should challenge his critics to a dance-off...?

Why do people care this much about the so called integrity of the MCU anyway? Disney's consolidated its stranglehold on a huge chunk of media capital, pop culture, and entertainment, as well as the money, influence, and resources that go along with it, and people are jazzed just because that means the X-Men and the Avengers can be in a film together.

Being worried about GotG3 isn't the right thing to focus on. Gunn will be fine, he'll bounce off. And sure, no Gunn means most likely Guardians 3 will be mediocre, but it's just a movie it's not the point to focus.

This whole case is setting a dangerous precedent by validating Cernovich and far-right conspiracy ********

Yeah, technically any Technodrome member who ever talked to Gobo around here a couple of years ago "knows someone convicted of possessing child porn." I guess we should all turn ourselves in!

I was about to post the same thing.

[ZariusTwo]

And sure, no Gunn means most likely Guardians 3 will be mediocre,

The Guardians movies were always mediocre.

This is such a terrible post that you're only making because you hate the MCU movies.

I'm not, but sure, go with that narrative, whatever helps you sleep at night, just know that the advantage in the real world goes to me.

[NinjaPug]

The Guardians movies were always mediocre.



You're attacking me for standing against abuse enablers because I don't like movies you like.

Advantage In Real Life: Me.

How did I attack you? How is he enabling actual abuse?

[plastroncafe]

It's extra hilarious that this sudden virtue signal in the sky is born from the same people who gave us the harassment machine that was gamerdorf.

[AquaParade]

It's extra hilarious that this sudden virtue signal in the sky is born from the same people who gave us the harassment machine that was gamerdorf.

There's definitely hypocrisy in the air.

On another forum, I saw someone say something along the lines of "The Right have joined in/played off of the Left's naivete and need for moral impurity". I found that to be quite astute an observation.

I haven't been taking a stand one way or another with this situation, the Roseanne one, or anything else related to people losing their jobs for saying insensitive things this year. I've just been watching from afar like most people.

I think there's a very vocal group that decided they were offended by every little thing said by people they don't like. Now, the other radical side has decided to play too. That's the way I see it, but I'm always open to having my mind changed.

[Candy Kappa]

Rosanne and Gunn are very different instances, though. Rosanne wasn't fired for her past crappies, nor for her dressed as Hitler burning gingerbread men pictures. But for current "mishaps"

While Gunn was fired for something Disney well knew about, heck he was hired for it most likely. And people did have a fit about it during GotG1 and he apologized for his edgelord comedian period and wasn't fired them.

[Andrew NDB]

On another forum, I saw someone say something along the lines of "The Right have joined in/played off of the Left's naivete and need for moral impurity". I found that to be quite astute an observation.

If I were to speculate, I think it's more... the right taking revenge on the left by using their own game against them to eliminate on of their own.

But no matter who "Called Dad," it still boils down to Disney acting on this and firing Gunn. Nobody held a gun to their head. Nobody.

[Andrew NDB]

Also, Zoe Saldana and Chris Pratt have chimed in:

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/07/23/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-james-gunn-fired-zoe-saldana-chris-pratt-respond-comments/

Essentially: "We feel like we need to say something, so we're going to say... words. And stuff. But not really defend Gunn."

Cowards.

[Sumac]

I'm not, but sure, go with that narrative, whatever helps you sleep at night, just know that the advantage in the real world goes to me.
Looky, Zarius uses convenient opportunity to **** upon movies he dislikes.
Childish. :lol:

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Also, Zoe Saldana and Chris Pratt have chimed in:

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/07/23/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-james-gunn-fired-zoe-saldana-chris-pratt-respond-comments/

Essentially: "We feel like we need to say something, so we're going to say... words. And stuff. But not really defend Gunn."

Cowards.

That is super disappointing. They need to quit playing it safe and stick by someone if they actually support them. Either support them or don't, but leave off the half-assing.

[Andrew NDB]

That is super disappointing. They need to quit playing it safe and stick by someone if they actually support them. Either support them or don't, but leave off the half-assing.

Super disappointing. The people whose words arguably would have helped the most and who benefited the most from Gunn's films are the ones who do nothing.

[plastroncafe]

I think there's a very vocal group that decided they were offended by every little thing said by people they don't like. Now, the other radical side has decided to play too. That's the way I see it, but I'm always open to having my mind changed.

I'd argue against your former point, but the latter Rings true to me. There is certainly a movement of people politically motivated to stir ****, and then when something bad happens as a result of their work, they fall back on it all having been a joke to begin with.

The article I referenced on the previous shows an example of this. The guy wrote and shot numerous videos about liberal conspiracies involving the abuse of children, and when his parents tried to kick his friendless freeloading ass out of the house, he stabbed and killed his father while accusing both parents of abusing children.

And the people who radicalized him in the first place all seemed shocked, because they thought he knew they were kidding.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Super disappointing. The people whose words arguably would have helped the most and who benefited the most from Gunn's films are the ones who do nothing.

At least Bautista is a stand-up guy.

[Autbot_Benz]

Also, Zoe Saldana and Chris Pratt have chimed in:

http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/07/23/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-james-gunn-fired-zoe-saldana-chris-pratt-respond-comments/

Essentially: "We feel like we need to say something, so we're going to say... words. And stuff. But not really defend Gunn."

Cowards.

I agree if not For Gunn Pratt would still be a nobody on Parks and Rec. The Chick who played Mantis just wrote we are groot we are family and Karen Gillian said the same thing Zoe did love to our GOTG Family

[Andrew NDB]

I agree if not For Gunn Pratt would still be a nobody on Parks and Rec.

Correct. And Zoe would still be sitting around waiting to do Avatar 2.

The Chick who played Mantis just wrote we are groot we are family and Karen Gillian said the same thing Zoe did love to our GOTG Family

In other words, vague support that is essentially meaningless.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Correct. And Zoe would still be sitting around waiting to do Avatar 2.



In other words, vague support that is essentially meaningless.

Exactly. And exactly.

[plastroncafe]

I'm more disappointed with Pratt, than I am with the other people in the cast. They have more than he does to lose, and so I find it understandable that they aren't sticking their necks out more than absolutely necessary.

Their hollywood lifespan is very different than Pratt's is.

Do I wish they would all be as vocal as say, Bobcat Goldthwait (https://uproxx.com/hitfix/bobcat-goldthwait-disney-protest-james-gunn-firing/)? Oh heck yes.
But I also understand their reticence.

I was in the middle of the James Gunn episode of the "Inside of You" podcast (http://insideofyoupodcast.com/episodes/james-gunn) when the news broke, which made watching the story unfold that much more interesting.

Rosenbaum's timing is impeccable, in that he had an interview with Hardwick right around the time that that story broke too.

[neatoman]

So how likely is it that GotG 3 will be worse now?

[plastroncafe]

According to the podcast, he's got a 75 page treatment already completed.
So I have a feeling the third one will be like Ant-man, in that you'll be able to feel his influence, even if he's not at the helm.

[Andrew NDB]

According to the podcast, he's got a 75 page treatment already completed.
So I have a feeling the third one will be like Ant-man, in that you'll be able to feel his influence, even if he's not at the helm.

It's entirely possible Disney/Marvel will make it a point not to use said treatment, simply to make it clear they've severed all ties and salted the earth of him.

[Xav]

Rosanne and Gunn are very different instances, though. Rosanne wasn't fired for her past crappies, nor for her dressed as Hitler burning gingerbread men pictures. But for current "mishaps"

While Gunn was fired for something Disney well knew about, heck he was hired for it most likely. And people did have a fit about it during GotG1 and he apologized for his edgelord comedian period and wasn't fired them.You think Disney didn't know about Rosanne? She didn't just start saying crazy stuff when her show came back.

[Mayhem]

Should have posted this yesterday... but the thought to me simply is, if you can't let a person own a mistake, apologise, move on and try to better from learning off it... then you might as well just never release anyone from prison. Same principle.

[Andrew NDB]

Should have posted this yesterday... but the thought to me simply is, if you can't let a person own a mistake, apologise, move on and try to better from learning off it... then you might as well just never release anyone from prison. Same principle.

Nope, career has to be ruined and they have to be blacklisted. It's "progress."

[MikeandRaph87]

This article makes a good point about how the movie series is a group of scumbags looking to make good. What would have happened had Yondu not pulled Star Lord out in time? So many more examples with both films. Disney cares more about immediately cash backlash then allowing his film series to express the very thing it empasizes.
https://www.google.com/amp/collider.com/james-gunns-firing-guardians-of-the-galaxy/amp/


Its also funny how Roseanne Barr cannot tell the difference.

[Sumac]

Should have posted this yesterday... but the thought to me simply is, if you can't let a person own a mistake, apologise, move on and try to better from learning off it... then you might as well just never release anyone from prison. Same principle.
Precisely.

[ProactiveMan]

People can be so frustrating. They’ve created a mechanism for hounding people out of their jobs, and they think that it only works on people they don’t like. It’s like Jurassic World 2 where dinosaurs only kill bad people.

On the same token, if you hire someone who started out at Troma, you shouldn’t expect them to have a clean record, and If you give a sitcom to a crazy lady who is prone to offensive outbursts… you get the point.

[Sumac]

People can be so frustrating. They’ve created a mechanism for hounding people out of their jobs, and they think that it only works on people they don’t like. It’s like Jurassic World 2 where dinosaurs only kill bad people.

On the same token, if you hire someone who started out at Troma, you shouldn’t expect them to have a clean record, and If you give a sitcom to a crazy lady who is prone to offensive outbursts… you get the point.
"But those mechanism works only against bad ones, not good ones!!"
A good example of progressives immaturity and lack of logic: they genuinely think, that their rhetoric can not be used against them and their allies. Maybe this case will open eyes of some of them, though most will continue to live in denial.

[plastroncafe]

People can be so frustrating. They’ve created a mechanism for hounding people out of their jobs, and they think that it only works on people they don’t like. It’s like Jurassic World 2 where dinosaurs only kill bad people. .

This might be true if the people raising the fuss were doing so in good faith, and not 10 years after the fact.

And you know what's weird, all of those edgy comedians who so often flood the media with talks about how politically correct our society is, are suspiciously silent right now.

You'd think fellow Disney employee Tim Allen would have a statement out there.

[Spike Spiegel]

You'd think fellow Disney employee Tim Allen would have a statement out there.

He was so edgy back in the day.

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Not to mention the fact that he's a convicted drug dealer (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/31/tim-allen-opens-up-about-time-in-prison-it-put-me-/). :lol:

[Leolead]

Man, people are so stressed over this news..

[Andrew NDB]

Man, people are so stressed over this news..

I don't even know that I love GotG 1 or 2 (I like 2 a little better than 1), but this is sets a horrible precedent and needs to be undone.

[Spike Spiegel]

I don't even know that I love GotG 1 or 2 (I like 2 a little better than 1), but this is sets a horrible precedent and needs to be undone.

The precedent's been set for a while, m'man.

This is the environment that the recent trajectory of Western culture has created.

[AquaParade]

The precedent's been set for a while, m'man.

This is the environment that the recent trajectory of Western culture has created.

So trippy. It's like good intentions and deep-seeded self-righteousness gone awry.

It's hard not to vent frustrations, and even harder to maintain a healthy, rounded perspective. I just feel so frustrated at everyone pointing the finger. It seems so many are quick to judge others while they should be working on themselves. Obviously, we need to shut down those who are truly dangerous to others, but the intentions are so riddled with misery at this point.

[Sumac]

It's like good intentions and deep-seeded self-righteousness gone awry.
It's like this first time in history, when something good on paper turns into hilarious idiotic nightmare in reality.

People don't learn from history.
I'd say, that it especially concerns people who say that they are smarter than everyone before.

[plastroncafe]

But but but...I really DID see Good Proctor in congress with the Devil!

[Spike Spiegel]

I'd say, that it especially concerns people who say that they are smarter than everyone before.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/rIq6ASPIqo2k0/giphy.gif

[Sumac]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/rIq6ASPIqo2k0/giphy.gif
Who is this and what is the meaning of this?

[ProactiveMan]

This might be true if the people raising the fuss were doing so in good faith, and not 10 years after the fact.

The gun doesn't care if the person who pulls the trigger is doing so in good faith. Disney don't care about right or wrong, they care about profit and loss, and they evidently didn't care what James Gunn was tweeting ten years ago until it became a risk.

[plastroncafe]

How did it become a risk though?
Certainly not to their bottom line, but I guess I can see the risk of violence being real. I mean after all, the guy involved did get someone to shoot up a pizza parlor looking for smuggled children.

I can see where negotiating with that level of terrorism seems like a good business decision.

[raph27]

Usually the tags people add to these types of threads are eyerolls, but "jumped the gunn" might be the best thing I've heard from this whole ordeal. Bravo.

[John Pannozzi]

In addition to making light of the subject, Gunn was friends with a guy who was convicted of possessing child porn. 'Nuff said.

Who is the "guy" you are speaking about? What's his name?

Edit: Seems you're talking about Floyd "Huston" Huddleston (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huston_Huddleston).

[ProactiveMan]

How did it become a risk though?
Certainly not to their bottom line, but I guess I can see the risk of violence being real. I mean after all, the guy involved did get someone to shoot up a pizza parlor looking for smuggled children.

I can see where negotiating with that level of terrorism seems like a good business decision.

The risk is associating their brand with pedophilia, which could indeed be a risk to their bottom line. That's why they don't tend to mention it the ads for Disneyland.

If Gunn had been joking about virtually anything else, I think he would have gotten away with a mea culpa, but Disney sells itself as a company that people can trust with their kids. And to be fair, ten years ago or not, the tweets were pretty extreme. It would be easier to square with people if they were funny, but they were more creepy and disturbing than funny.

[AT-Man]

Is this still a hot topic? I'm surprised how fast I got over the whole thing. It's not like Gunn's life is ruined or anything.

[Sumac]

The risk is associating their brand with pedophilia, which could indeed be a risk to their bottom line. That's why they don't tend to mention it the ads for Disneyland.

If Gunn had been joking about virtually anything else, I think he would have gotten away with a mea culpa, but Disney sells itself as a company that people can trust with their kids. And to be fair, ten years ago or not, the tweets were pretty extreme. It would be easier to square with people if they were funny, but they were more creepy and disturbing than funny.
And yet Disney knew about their existence before they hired him to make GOTG. :ohwell:

[plastroncafe]

The risk is associating their brand with pedophilia, which could indeed be a risk to their bottom line. That's why they don't tend to mention it the ads for Disneyland.

If Gunn had been joking about virtually anything else, I think he would have gotten away with a mea culpa, but Disney sells itself as a company that people can trust with their kids. And to be fair, ten years ago or not, the tweets were pretty extreme. It would be easier to square with people if they were funny, but they were more creepy and disturbing than funny.

If these were new, sure maybe but the the difference between now and 10 years ago as we have a politically motivated Hate Machine using pedophilia as new form of McCarthyism.
And Fringe members of that group or more than happy to bring violence with them wherever they go. I still think that's the real concern.

[ZariusTwo]

The cast and crew have released an official statement

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjXkTTXXgAAqOIf.jpg

[Andrew NDB]

I guess that's a decent gesture. It's not quite the "We demand Disney reinstate Gunn" it needs to/should be, but it's a big step up from the vague "Thoughts and best wishes and life is weird" stuff Pratt and Zaldana were blathering on about early.

[MikeandRaph87]

Its getting out of hand, people are digging into seven year old tweets from baseball players now undermining their moments of glory. If you have a social media account it might be best to make sure something irrelevant due to age yet offensive then is erased. Past haunts.
https://sports.yahoo.com/m/4cd32c4f-e6e9-3073-966d-99187d9bbab5/ss_leading-off%3a-newcomb%2c-turner.html

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I guess that's a decent gesture. It's not quite the "We demand Disney reinstate Gunn" it needs to/should be, but it's a big step up from the vague "Thoughts and best wishes and life is weird" stuff Pratt and Zaldana were blathering on about early.

Yeah. They went from a F to a B+. They could still do better, but it's way better than their "thoughts and prayers" BS.

[Sumac]

If these were new, sure maybe but the the difference between now and 10 years ago as we have a politically motivated Hate Machine using pedophilia as new form of McCarthyism.
Hate Machine, which was put to motion by fringe-lefties with their "witch hunts" on everyone who said or did something dubious in their pasts, even if everything they had, were questionable rumors and awkward allegations.

As the old saying goes: "you rip what you saw".
But, of course, proggies thought that "only the bad ones will be affected"...SURPRISE!!...everyone will be affected.

When you put in motion hate machine to grind people for "wrong think" sooner or later this machine rages out of control and start to grind everyone, regardless of how "bad" those people are. And soon it starts to grind even those who were "good" ones.
That's the nature of any totalitarian repressive machine - it can not be controlled. It runs on hysteria, suspicions and rumors. And if people are sufficiently fired up, they will feed this machine, constantly adding more rumors to the mill, which will create more hysteria, suspicions and paranoia.

Instead of bashing gay people for being attracted to genitals and seeing nazis in every corner, lefties need to study history. But, of course, fighting for progress one tweet at a time is easier. :D

[Spike Spiegel]

Instead of bashing gay people for being attracted to genitals and seeing nazis in every corner, lefties need to study history. But, of course, fighting for progress one tweet at a time is easier. :D

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/tee-hee.gif

[Sumac]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/tee-hee.gif
You find extreme proggies funny?
I do too. Such delusional lunatics they are.
Eating their own with gusto (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiMyZ9uUYAAFF7V.jpg).

[Autbot_Benz]

Disney And Marvel May Reinstate James Gunn As GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 3's Director

Yesterday, the cast of the Guardians of the Galaxy franchise shared an open letter in which they made it clear they stand by fired director James Gunn and want to see him reinstated. Now, Variety has offered an update on where things stand and sources tell them that there is indeed a "growing feeling" that he'll get his job back, especially as Marvel and Disney haven't started looking for a replacement.

The trade also notes that production is set to begin early next year, meaning that the studio would need to move quickly to find a new director, especially as they would need to work on the script.

So, what's happening? Well, Walt Disney chairman Bob Iger is currently taking a well-deserved vacation after closing the merger with Fox and insiders say that a decision on Gunn's future won't be made until he returns to work. With any luck, he'll see sense because Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 won't be the same without the filmmaker. The question is, will he want to return after Disney quickly fired him?

That remains to be seen but we'll be sure to keep you updated on the situation in the coming weeks.

Long Story Short Bob Iger will look into the Gunn thing when he comes back from Vacation

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/guardians_of_the_galaxy/vol_3/disney-and-marvel-may-reinstate-james-gunn-as-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3s-director-a162576

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

As much as I didn't really like how Gunn upped the "humor" in GotG2, I do hope he's brought back to wrap the trilogy.

[AquaParade]

I must admit, creatively, I don't mind at all if he leaves. I'm glad a lot of people love the Guardian's films, but despite being a hardcore Marvel fan, I don't much care for them.

That said, I'd like to see him brought back, to stick it to all the finger-pointers who probably have their own past-misdeeds to worry about.

[ProactiveMan]

If these were new, sure maybe but the the difference between now and 10 years ago as we have a politically motivated Hate Machine using pedophilia as new form of McCarthyism.
And Fringe members of that group or more than happy to bring violence with them wherever they go. I still think that's the real concern.

My point is, it doesn't matter who is doing it, the mechanism is the same. It's too easy to aim a human bot-net at somebody and get them fired, and nobody seemed to care until it was set off by people they don't like.

I suspect that Gunn is probably better off being sacked at the behest of shady right-wing characters rather than the alternative, because this way people are coming to his defence rather than distancing themselves from him.

[plastroncafe]

you must run in very different internet circles than I do off this board, because that's not how I see the situation at all.

[Spike Spiegel]

What's the difference between Gunn's pedophilia jokes and those of Dan Harmon and Milo Yiannopoulous?

[Sumac]

What's the difference between Gunn's pedophilia jokes and those of Dan Harmon and Milo Yiannopoulous?
I don't know who Harmon is, but Milo is not a lousy joker, but a shitstain, who pretends to be some kind of political activist. Though, he is a sellout and will say whatever is needed to make the biggest profit of his persona.

Comparing him and Gunn doesn't really make sense unless you are seriously lacking grey matter and doesn't see difference between political activist and a movie director.

[Spike Spiegel]

I don't know who Harmon is, but Milo is not a lousy joker, but a shitstain, who pretends to be some kind of political activist. Though, he is a sellout and will say whatever is needed to make the biggest profit of his persona.

Comparing him and Gunn doesn't really make sense unless you are seriously lacking grey matter and doesn't see difference between political activist and a movie director.

You know, you're absolutely right. I should try harder next time.

[plastroncafe]

Truth.

One advocates for the merits of hebephilia, and says that age of consent laws are oppressive.

The other made some jokes at the expense of a convicted sex offender, and his victims.

Then there's the edgy guy who makes Rick and Morty and who once humped a doll on film.

[Sumac]

You know, you're absolutely right. I should try harder next time.
I think "next time" you should just step away from keyboard, if you will have an urge to "try harder".
No need to add to cohort of incompetent provocateurs here.

[Spike Spiegel]

No need to add to cohort of incompetent provocateurs here.

I know you've got it covered.

[Sumac]

I know you've got it covered.
Seems, I am good at provocations, seeing that you always swallow my baits. :D

[Autbot_Benz]

Disney Unlikely to Rehire ‘Guardians of the Galaxy’ Director James Gunn (EXCLUSIVE)

Despite a cast letter asking for James Gunn to be reinstated as the director of “Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3,” Walt Disney Studios is currently not planning on rehiring the filmmaker who it recently fired after a series of offensive tweets surfaced, according to multiple people familiar with the studio’s current thinking. The feeling within both Disney and Marvel is that the dozens of so-called jokes that Gunn made about pedophilia and rape are unacceptable in the #MeToo era and are not in line with Disney’s family-friendly image.

The studio recognized that “Guardians” cast members such as Chris Pratt and Zoe Saldana stopped short of threatening to quit the series, but there is widespread belief that the actors will show up for future installments, regardless of their personal feelings about Gunn. For one thing, most are under contract and would face legal action if they opted out of a sequel. Still, the public endorsement of the director was notable for its vociferous support.

“We were all shocked by [Gunn’s] abrupt firing last week and have intentionally waited these ten days to respond in order to think, pray, listen, and discuss,” the letter reads. “In that time, we have been encouraged by the outpouring of support from fans and members of the media who wish to see James reinstated as director of Volume 3 as well as discouraged by those so easily duped into believing the many outlandish conspiracy theories surrounding him.”

Related
'Guardians of the Galaxy' Cast Says It 'Fully Supports' James Gunn
Rian Johnson Explains Why He Deleted 20,000 Tweets After James Gunn Firing

At this point, the letter does not seem likely to save his job. Gunn’s firing was approved by Disney Studios chief Alan Horn, with his boss, company CEO Bob Iger weighing in on the final decision. The involvement of the highest levels of Disney signals that the cast pressure to rethink the Gunn ouster will struggle to gain internal support. “I don’t see Disney re-hiring him,” says one person close to the matter. “Those tweets were so horrible and Disney has a different standard then other studios.”

Gunn’s comments were nearly a decade old and were recently resurfaced by alt-right agitators, including the blogger Mike Cernovich. The tweets included messages such as, “The best thing about being raped is when you’re done being raped and it’s like ‘whew this feels great, not being raped!'” and “I’m doing a big Hollywood adaptation of The Giving Tree with a happy ending – the tree grows back and gives the kid a blowjob.” Others made light of AIDS, the Holocaust, and 9/11.

Disney insiders say the company was not aware of the offensive tweets and was taken aback when they were recirculated.

As for replacing Gunn, Disney feels no pressure to immediately find a new director, according to sources, and is willing to wait until the right A-list filmmaker comes along. For one, the studio never gave the film an official release date, even though it was widely expected to hit theaters within the next two years. Depending on how long it takes to land the right director, Disney may in fact wind up pushing back the film’s original February 2019 start date.

Spokespeople for Disney and Marvel declined to comment for this article.

So far, the studio has yet to meet with any Gunn replacements. There have been rumors that Marvel regulars like Jon Favreau (“Iron Man”), Taika Waititi (“Thor: Ragnarok”), or the Russo brothers (“Avengers: Infinity War”) might be enlisted, but sources say that many of the usual suspects are busy with prior obligations. That means that there is a higher likelihood that Disney will reach outside the Marvel family to find a director with the kind of offbeat sensibility to handle the comic-book franchise.

Replacing Gunn won’t be an easy task. Although largely unknown when he took the “Guardians” gig, having made a few cult favorites such as “Slither,” Gunn quickly proved to be more than a gun for hire. As both a writer and a director, he was seen as having a key role in nailing down the film’s light-hearted tone, giving the standard “heroes on a mission” genre a poppy makeover by including ’70s rock favorites on the soundtrack and peppering in lots of jokey asides. When “Guardians” was announced, some questioned its commercial prospects. The characters were low profile and the band of interstellar warriors included a gun-tooting raccoon and a tree. But the film and its sequel were massive successes, earning more than $1.6 billion globally.

This wasn’t Gunn’s first social media scandal. In 2012, the director apologized for a blog post he wrote in 2011, titled “The 50 Superheroes You Most Want to Have Sex With.” In the it, Gunn speculated that Iron Man could “turn” the lesbian Batwoman into a heterosexual, labeled Gambit a “Cajun fruit,” and called Batgirl, who is a teenage mother in the comics, “easy.” Facing a backlash, Gunn said he regretted making “poorly worded” statements.

The Gunn firing comes as studios are struggling with how to handle the personal issues of movie stars, given a new “zero tolerance” climate. The sexual harassment reckoning that has toppled media figures such as Harvey Weinstein, Dustin Hoffman, Kevin Spacey, and more, has made these companies less likely to put up with talent that has been accused of assault, or has made impolitic or offensive comments. For instance, ABC, which is owned by Disney, quickly fired Roseanne Barr last spring after she made racist remarks about former Obama aide Valerie Jarrett, and Paramount laid off TV chief Amy Powell after she allegedly used racially-charged language in the workplace.

On social media, Disney has been hit for working with Johnny Depp on the “Pirates of the Caribbean” and “Alice in Wonderland” films. Depp was accused of assaulting his ex-wife Amber Heard. However, there are no sequels to either franchise in development at Disney, nor does Depp have any films in the works at the studio or an overall production deal with the company. It seems unlikely he will going back to work at the studio in this climate.

Perhaps with good reason. Warner Bros.’ decision to include Depp in its Comic-Con presentation for “Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald” raised hackles on social media, particularly because Heard took the stage roughly an hour later to promote “Aquaman.”

“WB brought Johnny Depp out for the Fantastic Beasts panel (as a surprise!!!) immediately proceeding their Aquaman panel, featuring Amber Heard,” tweeted Entertainment Weekly correspondent Dana Schwartz. “That makes me nauseous.”

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/james-gunn-disney-wont-rehire-guardians-of-the-galaxy-1202892424/#article-comments

[Shark_Blade]

Told ya it’s unlikely. Disney’s ego is on the line, no way they gonna backtrack. :tlol:

Disney Unlikely To Rehire James Gunn For GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY VOL. 3; Familiar Names Rumored To Replace Him
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/guardians_of_the_galaxy/vol_3/disney-unlikely-to-rehire-james-gunn-for-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-familiar-names-rumored-to-replace-him-a162628

It's also thought that the cast will ultimately return to the series regardless of how they feel about Disney's decision because they're under contract and would face legal action for refusing to reprise their roles. Bear in mind that none of them have threatend to quit thus far! It's said that Gunn's firing was approved by Disney Studios Boss Alan Horn before CEO Bob Iger made the final decision. "I don’t see Disney re-hiring him," says one person close to the matter. "Those tweets were so horrible and Disney has a different standard then other studios." It's also said that the studio was unaware of the Tweets before they resurfaced.

As for a replacement, it doesn't sound like Disney is in any rush and they're willing to wait for the right A-List director. However, Jon Favreau (Iron Man), Talks Waititi (Thor: Ragnarok), and the Russo Brothers (Avengers: Infinity War) have all been rumoured to take over Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3; the only problem with that is that they're all busy and so Disney could look further afield.

Goodbye for good, Gunn.

[plastroncafe]

Either that one person close to the matter is full of it, or the Mouse as a mega Corporation is slipping.
There is absolutely no way they were not aware.

But I do think something good is going to come from all of this. If Disney is now refusing to work with people who have edgelord pasts, then that means other Studios will begin to do the same. And then maybe further down the line other companies as well.

And since the internet never forgets, that's a nice little bit of karma waiting for some keyboard warriors. a potential very rude awakening for those who believe the internet at large is there safe space.

[Sumac]

And since the internet never forgets, that's a nice little bit of karma waiting for some keyboard warriors. a potential very rude awakening for those who believe the internet at large is there safe space.
Such is irony when this things are coming from people like you.

[Andrew NDB]

But I do think something good is going to come from all of this. If Disney is now refusing to work with people who have edgelord pasts, then that means other Studios will begin to do the same. And then maybe further down the line other companies as well.

That's a good thing... why, exactly? Why do I need to care about what a filmmaker put on Twitter years ago?

And since the internet never forgets, that's a nice little bit of karma waiting for some keyboard warriors. a potential very rude awakening for those who believe the internet at large is there safe space.

In what, exactly? The final shape of your liberal utopia... the foundation of which looks increasingly like it is all but crumbling of late?

[MikeandRaph87]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/%e2%80%98guardians%e2%80%99-actor-kurt-russell-defends-james-gunn-%e2%80%98i-think-we%e2%80%99re-getting-a-little-too-sensitive%e2%80%99/ar-BBLvr9l?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=DELLDHP17

Kurt Russell joins the defense.

However, there is also this...
https://screenrant.com/why-disney-rehire-james-gunn-guardians-galaxy/

[Autbot_Benz]

More from Bautista's Twitter


Dave Bautista
‏Verified account @DaveBautista

Dave Bautista Retweeted Elias Eliot

I will do what Im legally obligated to do but @Guardians without @JamesGunn is not what I signed up for. GOTG w/o @JamesGunn just isn’t GOTG. Its also pretty nauseating to work for someone who’d empower a smear campaign by fascists #cybernazis . That’s just how I feel

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

More from Bautista's Twitter


Dave Bautista
‏Verified account @DaveBautista

Dave Bautista Retweeted Elias Eliot

I will do what Im legally obligated to do but @Guardians without @JamesGunn is not what I signed up for. GOTG w/o @JamesGunn just isn’t GOTG. Its also pretty nauseating to work for someone who’d empower a smear campaign by fascists #cybernazis . That’s just how I feel

This guy gets loyalty. I'd want Dave Bautista in my corner!

[plastroncafe]

Yeah, damn. I give the guy full marks for calling a spade a spade.

[ProactiveMan]

This guy gets loyalty. I'd want Dave Bautista in my corner!

Disney flirting with Nazis? Doesn't sound like them...

you must run in very different internet circles than I do off this board, because that's not how I see the situation at all.

I don't run in internet circles, I just have an outsider's perspective. For the record, I don't have a beef with James Gunn and I'm not happy that he was fired, but I don't see why it matters that he was ratted out by the lunatic fringe. Gunn wrote the tweets, Disney didn't like it and sacrificed him at the alter of public opinion.

[Andrew NDB]

Great move by Bautista... but I still have a problem with blaming the people who "outed" this information that was already known about and apologized for years ago. Left, right, middle, up, down... why does it matter who was the party that make the ruckus about it? Nobody put a gun to Disney's head to fire him over this.

http://www.highlander-community.com/lams.jpg

[CyberCubed]

Why do I get the feeling Guardians of the Galaxy 3 isn't going to make it's 2020 release date? It almost feels like the movie will be shelved. The Guardians will still appear in the next Avengers film obviously, but now I don't know pass that.

[frank_one]

But I do think something good is going to come from all of this. If Disney is now refusing to work with people who have edgelord pasts, then that means other Studios will begin to do the same. And then maybe further down the line other companies as well.

And since the internet never forgets, that's a nice little bit of karma waiting for some keyboard warriors. a potential very rude awakening for those who believe the internet at large is there safe space.A bad joke is not a crime. Even criminals must be accepted as normal people after they have been in jail and went through redemption. This is part of our civil society. Disney is wrong, they are going too far. Nothing good is going to come from all of this. People should think about it and stop giving their money to Disney.

[AquaParade]

Why do I get the feeling Guardians of the Galaxy 3 isn't going to make it's 2020 release date? It almost feels like the movie will be shelved. The Guardians will still appear in the next Avengers film obviously, but now I don't know pass that.

Sure will be interesting to see what happens regarding Guardians 3 and Kevin Feige's response to the situation.

My gut tells me that Guardians 3 still gets pushed forward relatively quickly. That said, I can also imagine them forgoing it in favor of some spin-off's instead. "Rocket and Groot" or a few of them joining up in the next Thor film, directed by Taika Waititi.
That's something I'd probably prefer. The characters were great as side-players in Infinity War.

[Sumac]

A bad joke is not a crime. Even criminals must be accepted as normal people after they have been in jail and went through redemption. This is part of our civil society. Disney is wrong, they are going too far. Nothing good is going to come from all of this. People should think about it and stop giving their money to Disney.
For some people wrong words on Twitter are WORSE tan any REAL crime and people who have said something dubious should be ostracized for the rest of their lives, while criminals who killed real people, should a chance for redemption.
This is very twisted logic of very twisted people.

[plastroncafe]

A bad joke is not a crime. Even criminals must be accepted as normal people after they have been in jail and went through redemption. This is part of our civil society. Disney is wrong, they are going too far. Nothing good is going to come from all of this. People should think about it and stop giving their money to Disney.

I don't think anybody is implying that Gunn should be prosecuted. Or at least, nobody rational is.
There is a very vocal minority online who would like to have him arrested for thoughtcrime, for certain.

Disney is well within their rights to several professional ties with someone whose Behavior they would not like to have attributed to their brand.

I think they're wrong in choosing this hill to die on, but as a corporation they were allowed to choose whatever hill they want.
Thus is the burden of having free speech and freedom of association.

[Autbot_Benz]

http://collider.com/dave-bautista-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-contract/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=collidersocial&utm_medium=social

Bautista says if they don't at least use James Gunn's Script he is going to ask out of his contract

“Where I’m at right now is that if [Marvel] don’t use that script, then I’m going to ask them to release me from my contract, cut me out or recast me. I’d be doing James a disservice if I didn’t.”

[TurtleTitan97]

Man, I hope it doesn't come to that. Can't imagine Guardians without Bautista.

[Andrew NDB]

“Where I’m at right now is that if [Marvel] don’t use that script, then I’m going to ask them to release me from my contract, cut me out or recast me. I’d be doing James a disservice if I didn’t.”

Wow, and this is right after he said "I will do what Im legally obligated to do." He keeps doubling down on his support and that's awesome.

[XERO]

Only a matter of time before Batista does this to Marvel:

https://i2.wp.com/gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Batista-Waving-Goodbye.gif?ssl=1

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Wow, and this is right after he said "I will do what Im legally obligated to do." He keeps doubling down on his support and that's awesome.

I know, right? Bautista's a BAMF. At this point, Urban Dictionary should just use his picture as the definition of "loyalty."

[MikeandRaph87]

https://screenrant.com/guardians-galaxy-3-james-gunn-script-disney/amp/

Not official, but looks like the script for Vol. 3 has been scrapped soley because it was James Gunn's work and the 2020 Spring release date no longer the goal. I really thought with him being the one person to recieve support Disney would have at least used his script. So much for the only film series of Marvel's without Spider-Man that interest me personally. :ohwell:

[Andrew NDB]

I dunno... there's a whole lot of "may"s and "unconfirmed" stuff in there.

[MikeandRaph87]

It seems to be a test for not just Disney, but Hollywood and their swift cutting ties the very moment a controversy comes to light. Whatever they decide may set a precedence for other targets enabling by not looking into anything more than possible immediate $ loss or being careful and true controversies being dealt with while carefully managing situations like this. The question is what presence will Disney set?

[Andrew NDB]

This is just my gut feeling, but I feel like Disney will wait an appropriate amount of time so as to seem like they're "punishing" Gunn/assessing the situation/weighing heavily on it... and then bring him back in and throw out some statement.

It could very easily go the other route, though.

[plastroncafe]

It seems to be a test for not just Disney, but Hollywood and their swift cutting ties the very moment a controversy comes to light. Whatever they decide may set a precedence for other targets enabling by not looking into anything more than possible immediate $ loss or being careful and true controversies being dealt with while carefully managing situations like this. The question is what presence will Disney set?

I'm curious to see who steps in to direct after all this.
Because...I sure as heck wouldn't want to sign on to that work environment.

[Autbot_Benz]

I'm curious to see who steps in to direct after all this.
Because...I sure as heck wouldn't want to sign on to that work environment.

I have to agree. Vol 3 is basically damaged goods now. The Cast want Gunn back Bautista is losing his **** over this. I don't think any director wants to touch this with a 10 foot pole

[Andrew NDB]

Very true. Kind of Disney's only way out at this point is bringing him back aboard with some kind of stern disclaimer about his "unthinkable" Twitter past.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Very true. Kind of Disney's only way out at this point is bringing him back aboard with some kind of stern disclaimer about his "unthinkable" Twitter past.

That does seem to be the safe choice, from both the business and PR perspectives.

[plastroncafe]

I'm legit surprised they didn't just use his script.
Unless there's something in the contract that doesn't allow them to use it.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm legit surprised they didn't just use his script.
Unless there's something in the contract that doesn't allow them to use it.

There's nothing saying they're not. This is becoming the new "Affleck is OFF 'The Batman'!" now.

But obviously them not using Gunn's script -- IF that's what they end up doing -- would be all about, "See, SJWs? We're COMPLETELY distancing ourselves from Gunn! Even from his script... ewww... see how revolted we are? Look, we're physically putting it in the trash! What a wretched person Gunn is!" and not any sort of legal thing or legal barrier.

[ZariusTwo]

Disney may be using his script after all

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/james-gunn-demand-major-studio-movies-disney-firing-1133161?utm_source=twitter

[plastroncafe]

So he's NOT in breach of contract.
Goodness, that's going to be a nice payday for Gunn.

[Andrew NDB]

So he's NOT in breach of contract.
Goodness, that's going to be a nice payday for Gunn.

What? How could he be in breach of contract? He didn't write the Guardians 3 script on spec... he was paid for it, regardless of if they use it or not.

[MikeandRaph87]

Disney may be using his script after all

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/james-gunn-demand-major-studio-movies-disney-firing-1133161?utm_source=twitter

I definitely see the Affleck/Batman will he/won't he thing Andrew mentioned.

Maybe aside from the support of fans and the cast is if other studios will see it the way we do and try to snatch him while he is available. Those other studios trying to steal away Gunn in response to him not losing popularity will make Disney realize it (pardon the pun) jumped the gun in trying to avoid controversey.

[raph27]

Maybe they'll just grab Ron Howard again.

[Autbot_Benz]

Kevin Feige Is Reportedly Fighting In GOTG VOL. 3 Director James Gunn's Corner At Marvel Studios


While it appears as if James Gunn won't end up directing Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, we have since heard that his script will more than likely still be used for the threequel and that there is a chance he could return to the Marvel Cinematic Universe somewhere down the line. Now, a new report claims that it's Kevin Feige who is fighting in the filmmaker's corner and that could make all the difference!

According to MCU Cosmic's Jeremy Conrad, the Marvel Studios President is "fighting on the inside" for "Gunn's vision" to remain part of the threequel and that's he's actually "livid" about the firing.

As a result, Feige is doing his best to keep Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3's script in place so that at least some of his vision is kept alive. We have, of course, heard that it's possible Gunn could still direct that movie and if Feige is doing his best to make that happen, there's a very good chance that it ultimately will. We'll just have to wait and see for now, though, as this is clearly all very complicated.

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/guardians_of_the_galaxy/vol_3/kevin-feige-is-reportedly-fighting-in-gotg-vol-3-director-james-gunns-corner-at-marvel-studios-a162812

[Andrew NDB]

According to MCU Cosmic's Jeremy Conrad, the Marvel Studios President is "fighting on the inside" for "Gunn's vision" to remain part of the threequel and that's he's actually "livid" about the firing.

Of course he's livid. Again, Disney made a big thing about "Marvel Studios has earned its autonomy -- we're not gonna screw with them." And within hours of some Twitter nonsense, Disney steps over Kevin Feige and fires one of his top directors? What?

[Jester]

Part of me wonders if we'll see the directorial debut of one of the cast, with Gunn being on that person's speed dial.

[plastroncafe]

Yondu, you're needed on set!

[TigerClaw]

Possible Reprieve On James Gunn & ‘Guardians’ As Marvel Powwows With Disney?
https://deadline.com/2018/08/james-gunn-guardians-of-the-galaxy-marvel-studios-disney-eleventh-hour-save-attempt-1202443199/

[AquaParade]

James Gunn for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

“Nuff said”

[ZariusTwo]

Photos of Gunn at a pedo-themed joke party surface

https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/08/11/photos-surface-of-guardians-director-james-gunn-at-pedophilia-themed-party/

[plastroncafe]

Oh god...why did I give briebart a pagehit.
I feel so dirty now.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Oh god...why did I give briebart a pagehit.
I feel so dirty now.

Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done, Plastron!

[Autbot_Benz]

Photos of Gunn at a pedo-themed joke party surface

https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/08/11/photos-surface-of-guardians-director-james-gunn-at-pedophilia-themed-party/

ya won't believe anything Breitbart posts no spank you

[plastroncafe]

Go sit in the corner and think about what you've done, Plastron!

https://assets.rbl.ms/10444262/980x.gif

[ZariusTwo]

ya won't believe anything Breitbart posts no spank you

Learn something new every day:ohwell:

That said, they were only reporting something someone else unrelated to them had uncovered

[Autbot_Benz]

Bautista's response to someone who brought up the "pedo party" that probably happened years before Gunn Joined Disney


Dave Bautista
‏Verified account @DaveBautista
3m3 minutes ago

Dave Bautista Retweeted Matt Dubiel

Man you guys are really reaching. So desperate! Anyway I just wanted to tell you to go **** yourself before I block you. So go **** yourself.

[ZariusTwo]

Bautista's response to someone who brought up the "pedo party" that probably happened years before Gunn Joined Disney.

Blunt Batista:)

[plastroncafe]

I really do admire that guy's moxie.

[Mayhem]

To quote honey badger... Bautista don't care, Bautista don't give a **** :D

[Andrew NDB]

I personally wish he'd cut them down with wit and fact and not outrage. At this moment it seems like fighting fire with fire... and being triggered.

I don't disagree with his sentiment, though.

[ranger_scout]

Following a meeting between Gunn and studio chairman Alan Horn, Disney is standing firm on their decision to fire Gunn from the third film.

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/james-gunn-guardians-of-the-galaxy-disney-firing-1202907016/

[Autbot_Benz]

Following a meeting between Gunn and studio chairman Alan Horn, Disney is standing firm on their decision to fire Gunn from the third film.

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/james-gunn-guardians-of-the-galaxy-disney-firing-1202907016/

looks like they might use his script after all which is good

[Shark_Blade]

Yes of course Disney not gonna backtrack after firing him. They’re sitting comfortably on the throne at the moment.

[MikeandRaph87]

https://screenrant.com/dave-bautista-disney-troll-video-james-gunn/

The awesomness of Bautista strikes again.

[ZariusTwo]

Bob Iger commented on the firing in an interview

"The James Gunn decision was brought to me as a unanimous decision of a variety of executives at the studio and I supported it

https://www.newsarama.com/40965-james-gunn-off-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-following-offensive-tweets.html

[TigerClaw]

Disney/Marvel Are Looking At Travis Knight To Direct ‘Guardians Of The Galaxy 3’
https://thedisinsider.com/2018/11/16/disney-is-looking-at-travis-knight-for-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/

He's the director of the upcoming Bumblebee movie. Let's see how that movie is received. He might be a good fit if all goes well.

[Vicky82]

James Gunn has been Rehired

https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/03/15/guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-james-gunn-rehired/

[Andrew NDB]

James Gunn has been Rehired

https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/03/15/guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-james-gunn-rehired/

Hah! I knew it. I thought it would take a bit longer, though.

Though isn't he going to be too busy prepping for that awful Suicide Squad sequel/not sequel?

[ZariusTwo]

nzobsJyLiqM

[AquaParade]

Huge news, if true.

As someone who doesn't particularly enjoy his films, I couldn't be happier about this. The whole situation was disgusting. I don't equate making some insensitive jokes, years ago, with being lashed by millions on the internet and potentially having your career tanked. What happened was completely unfair, in my mind.

Good for him.

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/w7lpHmY.gif

not surprised by this. No other director wanted to direct this movie

[neatoman]

Hm, you know what makes his return funny? He'll be the first director to make all parts of an MCU trilogy.

Iron Man, Thor, Captain America and the Avengers all changed directors at some point. I know the Russo movies (Winter Soldier, Civil War and Infinity War) seem more connected to each other than the other Captain America or Avengers movies but that doesn't change what they're labeled as.

[Autbot_Benz]

From James's Twitter

https://i.imgur.com/u95FIw3.jpg

[Andrew NDB]

I wanna see what Bautista says.

[MikeandRaph87]

I am glad Horne came to his senses. Though how long does this delay the film with the somewhat sequel to Suicide Squad? 2022? Also,do we really need Polka Dot Man( from 'Tec#300)? I love obscure Bat Rogues,but him? Okay,just glad to have Gunn back on GotG Vol. 3. Love the series and its nothing without Gunn. He made Chris Pratt!

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, by the time this comes out they're going to need to retitle it "The Guardians of the Galaxy."

[ranger_scout]

It's true that Gunn made the Guardians of the Galaxy films outstanding, but I am still mixed about this. What he said in the past is very hard to defend. I feel like I am in the same position that I was five years ago about whether or not to see X-Men: Days of Future Past after all of the terrible things that surfaced about Bryan Singer. He was smart to step away from promoting that film while all of that was happening. I also decided to sell my copy of The Avengers after the horrific things Joss Whedon said about the boss of my future sister-in-law. I had already seen the film enough times anyway.

Right now it seems that Gunn is in fact sincerely sorry for what he had done. Whedon never once gave a formal apology for the terrible things he had written. I will just have to wait and see what I will do when this film is being released.

[Andrew NDB]

It's true that Gunn made the Guardians of the Galaxy films outstanding

He made them competently. I've only ever seen the first one once and feel no urge to watch it again. I enjoyed part 2 a little more but it was hardly mind-blowing. Fun to see Stallone!

[MikeandRaph87]

Hopefully we will get shooting schedule figured out soon. Perhaps it can swap a 2021 date with another jump ahead in production in place of GotG vol.3's summer 2020 date? Perhaps we will have wait until SS 2.0 is finished?

[Jester]

The Guardians movies are 2 of my favorite Marvel flicks, so I'm glad Gunn is back, but after watching Kevin Smith's video about the Stan Lee cameo from Captain Marvel, it made me think he'd be a good replacement...or a good choice for some other Marvel film...thoughts?

[Jester]

I meant for Gunn...not Stan. He mentioned Feige called him and spoiled the cameo by asking for his help...and that he's just a fan and didnt think it was a call to direct a Marvel flick.

[drgon78]

Well finally some good news.

[AquaParade]

The Guardians movies are 2 of my favorite Marvel flicks, so I'm glad Gunn is back, but after watching Kevin Smith's video about the Stan Lee cameo from Captain Marvel, it made me think he'd be a good replacement...or a good choice for some other Marvel film...thoughts?

I had the same thought.

And although Kevin plays it down, likely to avoid making "Kevin Smith wants to direct a Marvel film" the internet buzz of the day and putting the pressure on Feige, I do believe he'd accept a meeting to discuss the possibility with Marvel.

I can honestly see it happening, but I'd bet it somewhat depends on the performance and reception of his new "Jay and Silent Bob..." film. There is his new Marvel animated series from Hulu, which they can also "test the water" with. He's beloved in the film and comicbook community, but he hasn't had much luck box office/reception-wise with his past few films.

What would you like to see him direct? I imagine it would be something small in scope, with a more "off the wall" type Marvel character. I don't have any bright ideas yet, but what I'm thinking is this: Rather than see him direct a film about a super obscure Marvel character, I might like to see him direct a film about a somewhat well known Marvel character, in a somewhat more mundane/everyday situation.

On second thought: what's most likely is that they start off by grabbing him to direct a few of the upcoming MCU-Disney+ episodes.

[snake]

He’s back? Seriously? I feel like someone’s pulling my leg. Wow, I never would have thought this would occur in a million years. Was the plan always to fire him and rehire him just to appease everyone? Either way, I don’t care; this is the best thing that could happen to this movie.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Fvck yeah!!! :tgrin:

[Cure]

Booooo. Dude didn't deserve to get fired, I just wanted to see one of these movies from a different director. Oh well.

[Leo656]

Was the plan always to fire him and rehire him just to appease everyone?

Most likely, yes.

This guy was way, way too friendly with people who've actually been convicted of being pedos, and way, way too comfortable joking about it. I don't care about this movie, so all I can do is shrug, sigh, and shake my head. Who knows how "involved" he was in what his buddies were into, but he still seems shady as f*ck to me. He hasn't been found guilty of anything so he deserves to be allowed to make a living, but people really don't seem to want to scratch any deeper on this guy and that kind of surprises me.

Ah well. Good for him. But everybody better hope it doesn't come out a year or two from now that he WAS dirty, or everybody's gonna look pretty silly with all the fist-pumping enthusiasm.

[Andrew NDB]

Probably this was Feige's plan all along. When Disney wasn't having him back, Feige never really began the search for a director (alternately, correctly guessed that no credible director would want to invite the kind of ire that serving as Gunn's replacement would entail) and backburned GotG 3... so that enough time would pass for Disney to change their mind.

Because probably in their eyes to the SJWs, Gunn "served his punishment" at least a little bit. You know, Disney can always say, "We acted, when we found out about the tweets!" as opposed to doing nothing about him.

[Leo656]

Kinda like when WWE fired Hogan a few years ago for the stuff he said in the sex tape. I forget when it came out but it was revealed at some point that conversations took place between Hogan, Vince and Triple H at the time which basically went, "Yeah, we have to send you home for a while because of the investors, the stockholders, all the P.R. stuff and the media. But sooner or later everyone will stop being so mad about it and at that point we'll ease you back in. But for now, we have to pretend we actually care, and that this is actually a punishment. No hard feelings, just business." And now he's back, as promised.

There was no way he was ever going to be exiled permanently; he essentially built the company. But they have to put on a big display and all that. That's generally how these things work.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, precisely like that.

[Xav]

I wonder how long before Disney brings Roseanne back?

[Leo656]

It probably would have been pretty soon, given how bad the ratings for "The Connors" supposedly were. But she refuses to shut up and make nice, so they won't be asking her back. She was just lashing out at Sarah Gilbert in an interview like last week, about how she got her hired in the business when nobody wanted her and what an ingrate she is. Nobody from the show but John Goodman would probably even want to work with her at this point. She's done.

[Sumac]

Right now it seems that Gunn is in fact sincerely sorry for what he had done. Whedon never once gave a formal apology for the terrible things he had written. I will just have to wait and see what I will do when this film is being released.
What had he written?

I know there was script about Wonder Woman, which leftards used as a prove that Whedon is "horrible sexist misogynist", but since it leftards, I don't think anyone took it seriously and no-one really should do that. Then there were rumors that he traded roles in his movies and series for sex.
Haven't heard anything else.

Also, he is a good director and I will watch his movies anyway.

Kinda like when WWE fired Hogan a few years ago for the stuff he said in the sex tape. I forget when it came out but it was revealed at some point that conversations took place between Hogan, Vince and Triple H at the time which basically went, "Yeah, we have to send you home for a while because of the investors, the stockholders, all the P.R. stuff and the media. But sooner or later everyone will stop being so mad about it and at that point we'll ease you back in. But for now, we have to pretend we actually care, and that this is actually a punishment. No hard feelings, just business." And now he's back, as promised.

There was no way he was ever going to be exiled permanently; he essentially built the company. But they have to put on a big display and all that. That's generally how these things work.
I still don't understand what was the whole noise about.
AFAIK, Hogan said something in private and it was not even that bad (in my book it wasn't bad at all, though, but I come from different society) and than some idiots started treat him like the BIGGEST RACIST EVER.
SJWs are surely annoying creeps.

[Galactus]

Probably this was Feige's plan all along. When Disney wasn't having him back, Feige never really began the search for a director (alternately, correctly guessed that no credible director would want to invite the kind of ire that serving as Gunn's replacement would entail) and backburned GotG 3... so that enough time would pass for Disney to change their mind.

That's possible I suppose but more likely they really looked at all the possibilities and thought few directors of worth would want to touch this and there was always going to be an elephant in the room so decided to take a chance on rehiring Gunn.

Another theory doing the rounds which I don't think is true but on balance more likely than this all being a big con from Feige is that Disney looked at how Captain Marvel is doing and though hey these alt-right weirdos don't seem to the power to affect our movies as they think.

Because probably in their eyes to the SJWs, Gunn "served his punishment" at least a little bit. You know, Disney can always say, "We acted, when we found out about the tweets!" as opposed to doing nothing about him.

It wasn't SJWs that got Gunn fired though, was it? It was alt-right weirdos and not because they were genuinely offended by what Gunn said but because they disagreed with his politics not to mention they were trying to paint him as an actual child molester.

There was a few people who were only aware of Gunn's tweets after he was fired and seeing it laid out like that were genuinely upset, a few who were aware of them all along and never really thought Gunn had proven he'd grown up. I respect those two positions even if I disagree with them but I think we should all be glad that it looks like Disney belatedly decided it shouldn't fall for shenanigans orchestrated by a shady guy like Cernovich.

[Andrew NDB]

Bautista chimes in finally:

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/guardians_of_the_galaxy/vol_3/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-star-dave-bautista-opens-up-on-james-gunn-being-rehired-by-disney-a167585

[Autbot_Benz]

https://deadline.com/2021/10/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-will-poulter-1234853679/

EXCLUSIVE: After teasing his appearance at the end of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, Adam Warlock looks ready to join the Marvel Cinematic Universe in the next installment of the hit franchise. Sources tell Deadline that Will Poulter has landed the role of Warlock in Marvel’s anticipated sequel. James Gunn is returning to direct, with Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige producing.

[Andrew NDB]

So they're gonna go bratty and pouty with Warlock, then.

[ProphetofGanja]

I think Poulter will be able to brood well enough for the role, and probably be pretty funny unintentionally

[Andrew NDB]

Started filming:

https://www.darkhorizons.com/guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-begins-filming/