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Andrew NDB
07-25-2018, 12:05 PM
https://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7cfo9QPaj1rvcjd7o5_250.gif

I've been following the crap out of this. It appears to be happening now.

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Announced:
https://movieweb.com/coming-2-america-title-sequel-moving-forward-paramount/

Last month, screenwriters mention it involves Akeem looking for his son in America:
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/coming-america-screenwriters-sequel-centers-prince-akeem-searching/story?id=56141336

Please don't cast Kevin Hart...

drgon78
07-25-2018, 12:10 PM
They should have done a sequel to this years ago.

TigerClaw
07-25-2018, 02:56 PM
https://78.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7cfo9QPaj1rvcjd7o5_250.gif

I've been following the crap out of this. It appears to be happening now.

6AnST4t19n8

Announced:
https://movieweb.com/coming-2-america-title-sequel-moving-forward-paramount/

Last month, screenwriters mention it involves Akeem looking for his son in America:
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/coming-america-screenwriters-sequel-centers-prince-akeem-searching/story?id=56141336

Please don't cast Kevin Hart...
I hope Eddie Murphy plays all the other characters like he did in the 1st one. And I hope they also bring back Arsenio Hall.

CyberCubed
07-25-2018, 03:22 PM
Maybe they can get this out before James Earl Jones passes away.

Andrew NDB
07-25-2018, 03:49 PM
I hope there's more barber shop scenes.

AT-Man
07-25-2018, 04:30 PM
I'm cautiously optimistic.

sdp
07-25-2018, 05:20 PM
Haven't seen the movie in forever, it's awesome but does it really need a sequel?

TigerClaw
07-25-2018, 06:12 PM
I hope the sequel is not a retread of the first one. But rather the complete opposite. Where the Son goes to Africa with his Father. and his reaction to being in a foreign country.

Yeah it would be like the 1st one. But in reverse.

Andrew NDB
07-25-2018, 06:21 PM
I hope the sequel is not a retread of the first one. But rather the complete opposite. Where the Son goes to Africa with his Father. and his reaction to being in a foreign country.

That's definitely the biggest concern... that this could turn out to be a requel.

Powder
07-26-2018, 02:27 AM
Could be cool. I'll be looking out for it.

Andrew NDB
01-11-2019, 03:41 PM
It's got a director.

https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/01/its-official-eddie-murphy-to-star-in-coming-to-america-2/?fbclid=IwAR3c4pS0D2KJg-qaC2C1YJk1_lQdkvAU6ylVzIYGQoVFokKx6rKaGUprus0

Xav
01-11-2019, 11:57 PM
I'm sure this will come out right after Beverly Hills Cop 4 and Triplets.

Andrew NDB
01-12-2019, 02:13 AM
Whatever uncertainties may have surrounded this sequel... the only absolute certainty after "Black Panther"'s success is this movie's reality.

And I can't wait. I hope it has the same teeth.

BartAllen
01-13-2019, 08:44 AM
... This has Anchorman 2 written all over it. I love the original Coming to America. I just don't think the premise will work at all anymore.

That said, if it works and I'm wrong then it's still a win-win. God knows we need some decent comedy movies. The past couple of years have been god awful when it comes to comedy movies.

TigerClaw
01-13-2019, 09:23 AM
Eddie Murphy played a couple of characters in the 1st movie. So hopefully it will be the same for this. Remember those scenes that took place in a Barbershop? He played some of the characters in those scenes. Even Arsenio Hall played one of them.

-R1h2Df3Nrc

Egon1982
01-23-2019, 01:02 PM
No need, the original is fine without a sequel which feels unwanted.

I always enjoyed the original since i saw it in theaters as a kid.

Andrew NDB
02-12-2019, 05:08 PM
It gets a release date:
https://comicbook.com/movies/2019/02/11/coming-to-america-2-release-date

Andrew NDB
04-05-2019, 11:15 AM
Wow, it must be filming! Sweet.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/coming-to-america-too-clip-screened/

Andrew NDB
04-09-2019, 11:48 AM
Behind the scenes photos! It's happening.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/first-coming-to-america-2-bts-photos/

The Deadman
08-07-2019, 05:47 PM
Wesley Snipes Joins Coming to America Sequel
https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1089741-wesley-snipes-joins-coming-to-america-sequel

Andrew NDB
08-07-2019, 05:57 PM
James Earl Jones is back, too:

https://deadline.com/2019/08/james-earl-jones-rick-ross-paul-bates-joining-coming-to-america-sequel-1202663755/

Andrew NDB
08-12-2019, 11:35 PM
Now Eddie's wife from the first one has been confirmed:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/headley-returns-for-coming-2-america/

CyberCubed
08-13-2019, 04:43 PM
This is one of those movies I hope is really good but knowing Eddie Murphy's track record since the 2000's is probably going to be absolutely terrible.

Think of what Jim Carrey's Dumb and Dumber 2 was to the first. Whenever they finally make a long awaited sequel to an old 80's and 90's movie after like 20 years, it turns out to be bad. I can only think of a small handful of exceptions.

Andrew NDB
08-13-2019, 04:50 PM
This is one of those movies I hope is really good but knowing Eddie Murphy's track record since the 2000's is probably going to be absolutely terrible.

You give him a good, funny script and he's always been gold. He just hasn't been given one of those since... most of us were teenagers.

Andrew NDB
10-10-2019, 02:56 PM
PG-13:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/coming-to-america-2-is-pg-13-says-murphy/

For some reason I thought the original was PG-13 or PG, but it turns out it was R.

oldmanwinters
10-10-2019, 03:15 PM
PG-13:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/coming-to-america-2-is-pg-13-says-murphy/

For some reason I thought the original was PG-13 or PG, but it turns out it was R.

The TV edits were always PG-ish.
https://www.commonsensemedia.org/movie-reviews/coming-to-america

There are so many movies that shock me out of my familiarity comforts when I watch them without the TV edits.

Cure
10-10-2019, 03:26 PM
PG-13:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/coming-to-america-2-is-pg-13-says-murphy/

For some reason I thought the original was PG-13 or PG, but it turns out it was R.

The best line in the movie has "****" in it twice, so yeah, unforgettably R.

Andrew NDB
10-24-2019, 04:34 PM
Eriq La Salle is out:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/la-salle-wont-return-for-coming-2-america/

Though I wasn't really expecting him to return. Why would Akeem's wife's ex be still hanging around?

Andrew NDB
01-09-2020, 11:37 PM
Just rewatched the movie. Yeah, that's pretty hard R. It begins with lots of boobs and there's probably 30 or more F bombs in the movie. Samuel L. Jackson even shows up around the middle to say "muthaf*cka" during a robbery.

Eh, now I'm really disappointed part 2 will be PG-13.

Andrew NDB
09-24-2020, 10:43 PM
A trailer has been readied and rated. Maybe a week or so we'll see it!

https://www.darkhorizons.com/coming-2-america-trailer-rated-ready/

Coola Yagami
09-25-2020, 02:37 AM
The TV edits were always PG-ish.
https://www.commonsensemedia.org/movie-reviews/coming-to-america

There are so many movies that shock me out of my familiarity comforts when I watch them without the TV edits.

heh, kinda reminds me the first time I rented Ghostbusters and saw the actual movie and not the tv-censored version. The dream ghost sequence and the whole line about 'yes it's true, this man does not have a dick' and so forth caught me off guard.

Sumac
09-25-2020, 11:27 AM
I wonder will it be released in theaters this year or moved to next year.

The Deadman
09-25-2020, 11:29 AM
Seeing that this year is almost over, I'd expect it to get a release next year.

Andrew NDB
09-30-2020, 09:23 PM
Seeing that this year is almost over, I'd expect it to get a release next year.

I think there might be a push to get it out more sooner than later. You know, release it in November to the theaters that are open, then 2-3 weeks later do the Bill & Ted 3 VOD model.

I mean, if they want to cash in on and ride the BLM wave and all (because I don't think it's going to be going this strongly next year). Just saying. Nothing wrong with that if it helps it make more money.

Andrew NDB
10-13-2020, 02:45 PM
Damn. Sold to Amazon for 125 million. Coming to Amazon Prime in December.

https://collider.com/coming-2-america-amazon-prime-video-release-date-eddie-murphy/

CyberCubed
10-13-2020, 02:58 PM
I hope this turns out good as the original is classic. But everything about it feels like "direct to video sequel" if it came out in the 90's.

Cure
10-13-2020, 05:23 PM
Damn. Sold to Amazon for 125 million. Coming to Amazon Prime in December.

https://collider.com/coming-2-america-amazon-prime-video-release-date-eddie-murphy/

Oh, awesome. I hope more movies follow suit. I'm getting annoyed with all these delays. Just release them digitallyyyyyy.

Jester
10-13-2020, 05:29 PM
Oh, awesome. I hope more movies follow suit. I'm getting annoyed with all these delays. Just release them digitallyyyyyy.
Agree 100%.

I know I haven't been to a theater in a bit, pandemic be damned.

Powder
10-13-2020, 11:26 PM
Release a damn trailer already.

Andrew NDB
10-13-2020, 11:45 PM
Kind of sad. They shot it as PG-13 to maximize profits... then just end up dumping it to Amazon Prime, where it could have been R or whatever and it wouldn't really move the meter.

I don't understand, though. Why not release it to the theaters that are actually open? Like, what's the harm? Do that, and THEN dump it to Amazon Prime.

sdp
10-14-2020, 08:34 AM
I'm guessing any movies that aren't guaranteed huge blockbusters will be dumped on streaming or delayed to late 2021. We'll see this a lot next year especially I think.

Kind of sad. They shot it as PG-13 to maximize profits... then just end up dumping it to Amazon Prime, where it could have been R or whatever and it wouldn't really move the meter.

I don't understand, though. Why not release it to the theaters that are actually open? Like, what's the harm? Do that, and THEN dump it to Amazon Prime.

They estimated they wouldn't get 125 million back and be worth the trouble.

Andrew NDB
11-20-2020, 12:56 PM
Delayed 3 months to 3/5 for some reason.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/coming-2-america-sets-march-release/#

CyberCubed
11-20-2020, 01:57 PM
This is one of those movies I hope will be really good but deep down I know it probably won't be. :(

Here's hoping I guess, if not, just another sequel you can ignore.

Andrew NDB
11-20-2020, 02:20 PM
This is one of those movies I hope will be really good but deep down I know it probably won't be. :(

That they're ready and willing to dump it to Amazon Prime so quickly does make me worry a bit on the quality. I mean, obviously they've seen the movie now and know what they've got.

Andrew NDB
12-22-2020, 10:36 AM
A trailer, at last.

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Sumac
12-22-2020, 01:00 PM
And neither of them look much older...good genes.

CyberCubed
12-22-2020, 01:32 PM
Blacks and Asians have the best aging genes. I don't know what it is but if you're of those two races you look like you barely aged well into your 60's.

MsMarvelDuckie
12-26-2020, 01:53 AM
"***** don't crack...." Sorry, I couldn't help myself with Cubed's last comment. :trazz: :twink: :toops:

Andrew NDB
12-26-2020, 03:16 AM
And neither of them look much older...good genes.

And it would be fine if they did look a lot older. What's odder is that 30 years later, the barbershop old guys look exactly the same as in the 80s... lol...

CyberCubed
12-26-2020, 10:24 AM
Does the movie take place in-universe in real time? Like 2020 I imagine? So 30 years also passed in-universe right?

The Barber shop guys looked like they were 70 in 1988, so that means they're all over 100+ now. I guess they can still be alive. :lol:

TigerClaw
12-26-2020, 10:31 AM
Does the movie take place in-universe in real time? Like 2020 I imagine? So 30 years also passed in-universe right?

The Barber shop guys looked like they were 70 in 1988, so that means they're all over 100+ now. I guess they can still be alive. :lol:
This movie was filmed long before the Pandemic.

Hamato Yoshi
12-26-2020, 04:59 PM
That they're ready and willing to dump it to Amazon Prime so quickly does make me worry a bit on the quality. I mean, obviously they've seen the movie now and know what they've got.

People are wondering if the new Kombat movie will flop due to lack of hype :ohwell:

Why cant people enjoy sequels by their own merits , ure it prolly will not be as good as the first but it could still be decent

Powder
12-27-2020, 12:47 AM
Heck yeah, looks decent enough from what we can see in the trailer. Looking forward to it!

Andrew NDB
12-27-2020, 01:57 AM
People are wondering if the new Kombat movie will flop due to lack of hype :ohwell:

It will probably flop due to there never, ever having been a faithful and successful video game to movie adaptation.

Sumac
12-27-2020, 06:34 AM
Eh?
First MK movie was good.

Andrew NDB
12-27-2020, 07:19 AM
Eh?
First MK movie was good.

No. PG-13. No real fatalities. MK is gore city, an answer to Street Fighter's clean Japanese fighting game series. The movie was not that at all.

Sumac
12-27-2020, 07:34 AM
**** gore.
Good characterization and fun battles are much more interesting to watch, than mindless carnage.

CyberCubed
12-27-2020, 09:05 AM
The first MK movie kept things realistic for the main cast, which is why Liu Kang doesn't even throw a fireball till the climax, Johnny never uses his fast kicks, and Sonya never throws a pink ball of light. Only Sub-zero/Scorpion got to use their special attacks, they kept it grounded for the most part.

Leo656
12-27-2020, 09:07 AM
Yeah, I mean, that stuff would have made it a 100% faithful MK adaptation, sure.

But even without that, it's 90% there. I mean, that's about as good as it gets, and realistically, as good as anyone could have hoped for in that time and place.

Like, suppose the new MK movie goes over-the-top with blood and gore, BUT all the characters are done wrong and the story's a complete mess that has nothing to do with the games (I don't know what's going on with the new one, I'm just saying What If for the sake of argument). Would that honestly be "better"? I'd say Hell Naw. The blood and guts are the Sizzle, not the Steak. One could argue that they're the LEAST important part of the whole package, at least when translating it into a movie.

I'm with Sumac on this one. The first movie had the look, the story, and the characters damn near perfect, and that's way more important. I'll be honest, the first time I watched it, I completely didn't even notice that it was "neutered". I was too busy being amazed they didn't pull a "Super Mario Bros." and turn it into an "in name only" piece of unrecognizable crap. Still the best video game movie I've ever seen, although 1. That's a super-low bar and 2. I haven't seen ALL of them.

sdp
12-27-2020, 11:11 AM
Mortal Kombat is more than just violence but also sexual designs and story. The live action mortal kombat movies are great (http://miscrave.com/articles/mortal-kombat-movies) because they get the story elements right but not the others and that's ok, they're good at recreating certain aspects successfully but they're also not the greatest mortal kombat movies that could be made. I hope the new movie isn't too SJW like Mortal Kombat 11 , violence is cool but sex appeal and story are also part of what makes MK be what it is.

Leo656
12-27-2020, 11:35 AM
MK: Annihilation is the exact polar opposite of "great". That movie should be classified as a hate crime.

Xav
12-27-2020, 02:07 PM
It will probably flop due to there never, ever having been a faithful and successful video game to movie adaptation.
Tomb Raider, Pokemon: The First Movie, Sonic The Hedgehog, Detective Pikachu, The Angry Birds Movie.

Leo656
12-27-2020, 02:47 PM
I don't think he's counting animated/CGI or hybrid stuff. Pretty sure he's using "pure" live action-only as his base. He can correct me if I'm mistaken, though.

In which case, that would only leave Tomb Raider out of that list, and while it made money, I do recall that questions were raised about its faithfulness to the source material.

Huh. Y'know, I remember watching that on cable but I can't tell you a single damn thing about it if I'm being perfectly honest. How odd.

Powder
12-27-2020, 09:23 PM
None of those are "faithful". :tlol:

Andrew NDB
12-27-2020, 11:36 PM
**** gore.
Good characterization and fun battles are much more interesting to watch, than mindless carnage.

Mortal Kombat was all about Fatalities. That was what made it what it was. You could go to the arcade and pull out the spine of your opponent, if you were good enough. It was the only compelling difference between itself and something like Street Fighter. A movie without Fatalities, or Fatalities toned down to a PG-13 level? That's not Mortal Kombat.

Animated movies? No, I certainly wouldn't count those. And Tomb Raider? I can't speak to the reboot but those Jolie movies were bafflingly ghastly.

Sumac
12-28-2020, 02:09 PM
Mortal Kombat was all about Fatalities. That was what made it what it was. You could go to the arcade and pull out the spine of your opponent, if you were good enough. It was the only compelling difference between itself and something like Street Fighter. A movie without Fatalities, or Fatalities toned down to a PG-13 level? That's not Mortal Kombat.

Animated movies? No, I certainly wouldn't count those. And Tomb Raider? I can't speak to the reboot but those Jolie movies were bafflingly ghastly.
Mortal Kombat is a style and story and characters. Gore is a part of the style, but MK is much more than that. It is integral for the video games, it is not necessary (in ludicrous amounts, like in last few games) for an adaptation.

I am not interested in watching expensive "snuff film", I want a good story and decent characters. If gore must go away for this, I am OK with that.

The Deadman
12-28-2020, 05:23 PM
Saw the trailer for this the other day and I for one am pretty excited.

sdp
01-06-2021, 07:07 PM
Fatalities are great, but that's not the only thing MK is that gritty short film MK Rebirth sucked because it was just violence and instead of the mythical aspects it was all "realistic". All the 90s Mortal Kombat shows, cartoons, specials etc (https://miscrave.com/articles/mortal-kombat-continuity/) were definitely Mortal Kombat despite being aimed at kids and having little to no violence. Don't get me wrong a rated R MK would be even better and it's definitely an aspect of the franchise. None of the shows had big booba on the women but it worked. Nevermind Conquest definitely had booba. A shame MK11 went all SJW on women designs.

MK: Annihilation is the exact polar opposite of "great". That movie should be classified as a hate crime.
Did I say "great"? I don't think so, but it's decent, I think it definitely fits with what MK was at the time Annihilation came out. Full of colorful ninjas, characters everywhere and hell the MK games today have characters saying one line before being killed so in a way it's just like the games. You have a final fight with animalities, it had friendships and other stuff straight from the game, it went for a more cheesy route but MK has always had a level of camp. I mean that's what the games were by the time Mortal Kombat Trilogy came out, that's why they "went back to the basics" for Mortal Kombat 4. I definitely think Annihilation is as much MK as the first movie, both are decent but not great interpretations.
I'm open to a new movie that makes things right, I personally loved the Legacy shorts we got when MK 9 came out, if it's like those I'll love it, let's hope the stink of MK11 isn't in the movie.

Leo656
01-06-2021, 07:59 PM
Did I say "great"?

Yes...

The live action mortal kombat movies are great (http://miscrave.com/articles/mortal-kombat-movies)

The first MK movie might not have been Shakespeare, but at least the acting and presentation were passable. It was competently put-together. You could show it to people who knew nothing of Mortal Kombat and they could still have some fun with it and take it seriously as a "real" movie. Sure, there were some light elements of camp, but every action and/or martial arts movie has elements of camp. It still passed as a "real" movie.

The second movie, on the other hand, wasn't even competent. At its BEST, it comes off as a community theater group staging of "Mortal Kombat", and at its WORST it's a parody. It was cheap. It was silly. It was poorly-acted, written, staged, shot, edited and composed. If you told someone "This was the director's Very First Movie", they would believe you without asking for any proof. I'm almost positive it was most of the cast's first movie, and that shows.

To say "Of course it's cheesy, it's Mortal Kombat!" is a serious oversimplification of what was wrong with the second movie. The first one had flaws, but it was for the most part well-made. It looked and felt like a "real" movie, as in an actual professional product. The second movie was 100% Amateur Hour on every level. Some of the costumes weren't bad; everything else was terrible.

To borrow more "Scott Hall Words of Wisdom" as I often do, watching the first Mortal Kombat movie and then the second one is "like watching Good Porn and Bad Porn. You can recognize the difference, and even if you can't quite put your finger on what it is, and maybe you can't put it into words, you can tell right away that something ain't right."

This quote is incredibly appropriate, because "Bad Porn" is the closest thing the second MK film reminds me of. It damn sure doesn't look or feel like a "Real Movie".

The first movie is a good Anytime watch. It's not exactly "high art" but it's not like it's a slapdash piece of junk, it's well-made for what it is and it gets the basic story right. It's a good if imperfect representation of what "Mortal Kombat" is, and it's not an embarrassment. The second one is one of those "Batman & Robin"-level movies where when it's done I have to go set a homeless person on fire just because all the rage inside of me has nowhere else to go and it's the only way I can feel better. It's soulless and cheap. Movies shouldn't BE that bad.

"Legacy" was good, though.

Sumac
01-07-2021, 05:36 AM
Did I say "great"? I don't think so, but it's decent, I think it definitely fits with what MK was at the time Annihilation came out. Full of colorful ninjas, characters everywhere and hell the MK games today have characters saying one line before being killed so in a way it's just like the games. You have a final fight with animalities, it had friendships and other stuff straight from the game, it went for a more cheesy route but MK has always had a level of camp. I mean that's what the games were by the time Mortal Kombat Trilogy came out, that's why they "went back to the basics" for Mortal Kombat 4. I definitely think Annihilation is as much MK as the first movie, both are decent but not great interpretations.

I'm open to a new movie that makes things right, I personally loved the Legacy shorts we got when MK 9 came out, if it's like those I'll love it, let's hope the stink of MK11 isn't in the movie.
MKAn is a garbage.
Poor story, poor acting, poor CGI, poor costumes.
Its like a MK movie made by students, who don't even understood what they were making a movie about.

Also, apparently, released version of the movie was supposed a "test cut", which was unfinished (hence Rain "dying" twice and crap CGI), which was pushed out because producers thought movie will be popular, just because its called MK.

The same **** with TMNT Bay movies and Batman & Robin.

First movie is still beloved and, even if you don't like story, it is competent as a movie.

Hamato Yoshi
01-10-2021, 07:09 PM
Theres no point of EM returning to stand up if he has to censor himself imo

Leo656
01-10-2021, 07:29 PM
"Eddie Murphy: RAW" is one of the greatest stand-up routines in all of human history and a shining example of how far we've fallen as a culture since then. That sh*t would NEVER fly today. But that doesn't mean we've "evolved", it just means that everybody nowadays is a sandy-vag rash-baby who's too goddamn sensitive.

If someone came out with a routine like that nowadays, they'd spend the next year apologizing for it and they'd STILL never work again. Glad I grew up in the '80s.

Coola Yagami
01-10-2021, 08:20 PM
I think MK's saving grace is that at the time, games like Mario, Street Fighter and Double Dragon didn't have much of a story that lends itself to an hour and a half deal. Either that or the directors felt the story was too hokey and decided to do their own thing.

The director of Street Fighter actually said 'sure we could have made a movie about a world martial arts tournament and maybe Bison is found to be dealing drugs and he has to be stopped, but hey, we have a large budget, let's bring in tanks and choppers'. Like no, you literally described the plot of Street Fighter (at the time anyway) and willingly tossed it aside for some ******** about rescuing hostages and nonsense.

Mortal Kombat, since the first game already had its lore, and I feel it helped a lot that they decided to actually stick to the lore and backstory the best they could and it worked for them. It's like, if the game is about a martial arts tournament, then ****ing make the movie be about a martial arts tournament, it's not rocket science.

I think the only thing that was wonky was Sub-Zero and Scorpion on the same side, but even the movie explained that they were enemies but brainwashed by Shang Tsung to work for him.

Leo656
01-10-2021, 10:07 PM
Yeah, the Scorpion/Sub-Zero thing didn't bother me because at least it had an in-story explanation. I mean you can wiggle a *little* bit with these things as long as the story is good.

MK was definitely the first fighting game series to make the story a big focus (although some people admittedly Do Not Care and that's their prerogative). Like games like Street Fighter HAD a story, but the various versions of SFII for example didn't really dwell on it too much in-game, not as much as the MKs did as they went on. Other than "Bison is the Bad Guy" I really didn't know much about the SF mythos until way, way later on. But the MK games at least sort of loosely explained what was happening within the context of the games themselves. I think that's why MK sort of lends itself easier to a movie than SF, at least back then. I think by NOW Street Fighter could be made into a decent movie, since so much of the story has been "properly" told, finally... but I think "Legend of Chun-Li" ruined that for the next hundred years.

My wife grew up loving the Street Fighter movie, and I kinda can't get her to accept its awfulness. :lol: It's like how some people still love the Super Mario Bros. Movie, I guess. I will say, Guile's little "rah-rah" speech near the end was pretty cool. It's like "YEEAAAHHH let's go punch out Terrorism, man!!!" :lol:

I think a problem with the basic "Just make it about a fighting tournament" plot when translating for a movie, can be seen in the "DOA: Dead Or Alive" movie, which more or less does that. And... it's not great. :lol: Like I get why they have to get a little more "fancy" when stretching these things into a full narrative.

Although I will say, as "not-great" as it is I kinda like the stupid DOA movie. Like, the games are cheesy and over-the-top so I kinda think the movie does the same job as the Speed Racer movie does. Like it's corny and it's dumb but it's Exactly What It Should Be for what it's adapting. I love how they even put the "Round 1: Fight!" stuff on the screen and worked the Beach Volleyball stuff in. I think it's a pretty good "bad" movie.

Plus, y'know... Kevin Nash and Jamie Presley. :trazz:

Coola Yagami
01-10-2021, 10:22 PM
Yeah, the Scorpion/Sub-Zero thing didn't bother me because at least it had an in-story explanation. I mean you can wiggle a *little* bit with these things as long as the story is good.

MK was definitely the first fighting game series to make the story a big focus (although some people admittedly Do Not Care and that's their prerogative). Like games like Street Fighter HAD a story, but the various versions of SFII for example didn't really dwell on it too much in-game, not as much as the MKs did as they went on. Other than "Bison is the Bad Guy" I really didn't know much about the SF mythos until way, way later on. But the MK games at least sort of loosely explained what was happening within the context of the games themselves. I think that's why MK sort of lends itself easier to a movie than SF, at least back then. I think by NOW Street Fighter could be made into a decent movie, since so much of the story has been "properly" told, finally... but I think "Legend of Chun-Li" ruined that for the next hundred years.

My wife grew up loving the Street Fighter movie, and I kinda can't get her to accept its awfulness. :lol: It's like how some people still love the Super Mario Bros. Movie, I guess. I will say, Guile's little "rah-rah" speech near the end was pretty cool. It's like "YEEAAAHHH let's go punch out Terrorism, man!!!" :lol:

I think a problem with the basic "Just make it about a fighting tournament" plot when translating for a movie, can be seen in the "DOA: Dead Or Alive" movie, which more or less does that. And... it's not great. :lol: Like I get why they have to get a little more "fancy" when stretching these things into a full narrative.

Although I will say, as "not-great" as it is I kinda like the stupid DOA movie. Like, the games are cheesy and over-the-top so I kinda think the movie does the same job as the Speed Racer movie does. Like it's corny and it's dumb but it's Exactly What It Should Be for what it's adapting. I love how they even put the "Round 1: Fight!" stuff on the screen and worked the Beach Volleyball stuff in. I think it's a pretty good "bad" movie.

Plus, y'know... Kevin Nash and Jamie Presley. :trazz:

The Sub-Zero/Scorpion also works because unlike the newer games, back in MK1, they were both completely in it for themselves. Like Sub-Zero was hired to killed Shang Tsung and Scorpion wanted to kill him for revenge. At the time neither character fit the role to kinda, join the Lui Kang gang. So I guess the brainwashing line worked because while they probably didn't want to waste time on a subplot that had nothing to do with the main story, you also CAN'T have a MK movie without Sub-Zero and Scorpion.

Street Fighter was hokey but had so many quotable lines, most from Raul Julia's Bison.

I think the only problem with DOA was didn't all the girls work together? In the games some legit hate each other and Christie is an assassin. But I guess most people want see a DOA movie to see the ass of that assassin instead of the plot, lmao.

Leo656
01-11-2021, 11:32 AM
The problem with the DOA movie was there was barely any Hitomi. What the F*CK, movie?! :tgrumble:

Sumac
01-11-2021, 04:17 PM
I think MK's saving grace is that at the time, games like Mario, Street Fighter and Double Dragon didn't have much of a story that lends itself to an hour and a half deal. Either that or the directors felt the story was too hokey and decided to do their own thing.
Mario movie was the case of directors trying to be "edgy and original". Funny enough Big N was on board with their ideas.

I think the only thing that was wonky was Sub-Zero and Scorpion on the same side, but even the movie explained that they were enemies but brainwashed by Shang Tsung to work for him.
Journey Begins (for whatever canonicity it is) explains that they were not brainwashed, but both were promised something by Shang: Scorpion was promised that he would be able to kill Sub-Zero at the end of the tournament, Sub-Zero was promised to become the greatest warrior.
It doesn't mesh with his story from the game, where he was hired to kill Shang, though.

Street Fighter 2 had an amazing adaption in Street Fighter 2: The Animated Movie. I think it was undeservedly forgotten, but I guess, Westerners saw it as "just wacky cartoon" and could not take it as seriously as the regular movie. And this was one was crap. Hilarious, but still crap and, yet, still much more entertaining than MKAn.

I think by NOW Street Fighter could be made into a decent movie, since so much of the story has been "properly" told, finally... but I think "Legend of Chun-Li" ruined that for the next hundred years.
I've heard there was an amazing fan series, which kept the story true to the games and was competently made. It was sort like MK Legacy, but without official approval.
But, yeah, I think, that Capcom afraid to make a new SF movie.

sdp
01-11-2021, 05:04 PM
Mario movie was the case of directors trying to be "edgy and original". Funny enough Big N was on board with their ideas.


The live action super mario bros movie is amazing cyber punk (https://miscrave.com/articles/super-mario-bros-movie/), there wasn't much to go by at the time and the director just played to his strengths, we get a weird Mario movie but an awesome alternate take.


Journey Begins (for whatever canonicity it is) explains that they were not brainwashed, but both were promised something by Shang: Scorpion was promised that he would be able to kill Sub-Zero at the end of the tournament, Sub-Zero was promised to become the greatest warrior.
It doesn't mesh with his story from the game, where he was hired to kill Shang, though..
Hell yeah they're canon, the mortal kombat cartoon Defenders of the Realm and Journey Begin expand on the mythology and lore of the movie (https://miscrave.com/articles/mortal-kombat-animated/), so much of the universe makes more sense because of those two and yet they aren't ever going to be considered worth a look for not being well animated, having goofy catchphrases etc but in general for what they were they were awesome companions to the movie for kids and expanded the much needed backstory of the movie.

Leo656
01-11-2021, 06:56 PM
Street Fighter 2 had an amazing adaption in Street Fighter 2: The Animated Movie. I think it was undeservedly forgotten, but I guess, Westerners saw it as "just wacky cartoon" and could not take it as seriously as the regular movie. And this was one was crap. Hilarious, but still crap and, yet, still much more entertaining than MKAn.


The animated movie had a really big push when it first came out. The video game magazines were all over it, hyping it as "the REAL Street Fighter movie" and whatnot. It got a great response initially.

It does seem like things have been a little more quiet in recent years, though. I wonder if the Chun-Li nude scene had anything to do with its reputation. I could see that being off-putting to some people, and affecting their ability to take it seriously.

...That sh*t was awesome, though, I ain't even gonna lie. :lol: Great movie anyway, but... that was an awesome "Bonus".

- Also, Obligatory "Legend Of Chun-Li Is The Worst Movie I've Ever Seen And I Almost Went On A Killing Spree After I Watched It" Comment Here. Seriously, whaaaaaaat the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

oldmanwinters
01-11-2021, 07:41 PM
- Also, Obligatory "Legend Of Chun-Li Is The Worst Movie I've Ever Seen And I Almost Went On A Killing Spree After I Watched It" Comment Here. Seriously, whaaaaaaat the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

Ah, man, it was so bad. And I wanted to like it so much, but... man, it might have been the least Street Fightery way they could have went with the source material. As corny as the 1994 Universal movie was, it was at least along the lines of how the franchise had been promoted in the USA up to that time.

I suppose I've come to have a soft spot for the "Super Mario Bros" movie, but it's primarily because of Bob Hoskins, even if he probably didn't want to be there.

Andrew NDB
01-11-2021, 08:34 PM
Also, Obligatory "Legend Of Chun-Li Is The Worst Movie I've Ever Seen

Is it better than the Van Damme one at least?

sdp
01-11-2021, 09:07 PM
The Van Damme movie can be dumb fun, cheesy but whatever. The Legend of Chun Li was just a boring mess, nothing redeemable if I remember correctly, and this is someone who just called Mortal Kombat Annihilation Great on page 1 of the thread.

Leo656
01-11-2021, 09:45 PM
Is it better than the Van Damme one at least?

NO! The Van Damme one is a MILLION f*cking times better! Can you believe it?!

Like, the Van Damme one is dumb. But it has moments of "So-Bad-It's-Good" dumb. It's not totally worthless. I understand why some people like it. I groan whenever I see it, but if you're A Certain Type Of Fan, I can see how it can be entertaining.

I looked forward to "Legend of Chun-Li". I thought Kreuk was bad casting, but I figured "Eh." I figured Michael Clarke Duncan would be perfectly cast as Balrog. I figured the people making this one MUST have learned from the mistakes of the original one. Over and over, I thought to myself, "At the absolute LEAST, it will be better than the Van Damme movie. Because it HAS to be."

Jesus CHRIST.

The cast is horrible. The acting is worse. The fight scenes are the worst, lamest, DUMBEST f*cking "wire-fu" nonsense. "Balrog" the boxer never punches anybody and mostly throws things. "M. Bison" is an Irish guy who magically transferred his conscience into his unborn baby after murdering his pregnant wife, and... WHAT? Everything about it is terrible. EVERYTHING.

I get angry - VERY angry - a lot of the times when people say "So-and-so is a terrible movie, one of the worst I've ever seen." Because I've seen a lot of those movies and they DON'T come close to THIS one, pal! It's agonizing. INFURIATING. Movies this f*cking bad should be ILLEGAL.

If I've EVER seen a worse movie in my entire goddamn LIFE than "Legend of Chun-Li", I honestly don't remember. Ten Years Later, and I start shaking every time I think about it. It's f*cking TERRIBLE.

You know I usually make fun of the critics and Rotten Tomatoes. "Taste is Subjective", and all that. Well, "Legend of Chun-Li" has a whopping 5% score on RT. And that's about 10 f*cking points too high. Some choice Quotes:

"The 1994 picture was one of the worst movies ever inspired by a video game; even Jean-Claude Van Damme fans couldn't rationalize this turkey, which should have been titled Four Hundred Funerals and No Sex. Yet this pointless and inept action vehicle makes its predecessor seem like Citizen Kane... Hopelessly contrived, with lamely-choreographed fight sequences; highlight is Chris Klein's cry of 'Bomb! Get out, now!' Our sentiments exactly."
- Leonard Maltin

"There's better staged and more enjoyable brawls between Peter and The Chicken on Family Guy."
- Jim Vejvoda, IGN

"A re-envisioning of Street Fighter by people who can't see."
- Ryan Davis, Giant Bomb


I f*cking hate this movie. I hate everyone involved in it. I don't f*cking hate black licorice, the Grateful Dead, or even Obama as much as I hate "The Legend of Chun-Li".

Watch it once, and try not to kill yourself. But don't say I didn't warn you.

Andrew NDB
02-04-2021, 04:18 AM
The 2nd trailer is out:

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OK... I think I can completely predict the movie now. His son isn't really his son at all (probably Arsenio's, or maybe Snipes') and the third act of the movie will be about Akeem breaking with Zamumba tradition and making his daughter become the first female monarch ever.

frank_one
02-04-2021, 08:06 AM
Fun fact (you hear me say this a lot): In Italy the first movie was called "Il principe cerca moglie" (The prince is looking for a wife). This second movie's italian title is "Il principe cerca figlio" (The prince is looking for a son).

mrmaczaps
02-04-2021, 09:02 AM
The 2nd trailer is out:

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OK... I think I can completely predict the movie now. His son isn't really his son at all (probably Arsenio's, or maybe Snipes') and the third act of the movie will be about Akeem breaking with Zamumba tradition and making his daughter become the first female monarch ever.

Okay, that was actually funny. But then the first one was hilarious so...


And sh*t, its on Amazon Prime. Hopefully they're gonna do a bluray release too? I try not limit my spending with Amazon...

sdp
02-04-2021, 10:23 AM
Isn't this just the Mortal Kombat 2021 thread?

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/fight-first-images-from-the-new-mortal-kombat-movie-online/
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ZariusTwo
02-04-2021, 12:13 PM
Isn't this just the Mortal Kombat 2021 thread?

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/fight-first-images-from-the-new-mortal-kombat-movie-online/
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Dammit, I marked out when that music played, should have kept it going...

CyberCubed
02-25-2021, 08:28 PM
Rewatched the first movie one last time before the sequel comes out. Must have seen the movie 20+ times since I was a kid and it's funny each and every time. It's one of the greatest comedy movies and it's amazing how pretty much every scene has funny dialogue/jokes and all of them land.

I'm glad James Earl Jones lived long enough for the sequel, it's pretty funny he looked "old" back in 1988...yet he's still here 30+ years later. Amazing. Also if Lisa existed in the modern era instead of the 80's, she certainly would have been a social justice warrior in the modern age. Her character was played perfectly and I'm glad she's returning in the sequel, I honestly feared she wouldn't come back and that would ruin the whole romance ending of the original.

Also is it just me or does Arsenio Hall look very feminine in this movie? Almost every scene he looks like he could pass for a woman at times.

Andrew NDB
02-25-2021, 10:01 PM
He looks a bit gaunt these days... I wouldn't say feminine. Though I'm pretty sure he gets to play a woman as one of his many roles this time out again.

Andrew NDB
03-04-2021, 08:14 PM
It's out right now, a day early.

CyberCubed
03-05-2021, 09:04 PM
Just finished it, I enjoyed it. It obvious couldn't touch the original and some jokes being re-treaded worked and some didn't, (the barking gag was awful this time around), but it was a nice follow-up with these characters after 30 years. I'm surprised I liked Akeem's daughters so much, they were written well. I wasn't too keen on his son at first but he got better as the movie went on.

All the returning characters were great, I laughed at the King's funeral while he was still alive and Morgan Freeman made a surprise appearance. Lisa was great in this movie despite less screentime than the first as was Semmi. Mr. McDowel was also great and he aged rather well, lol. Barber shop crew was on point.

I'm surprised Akeem was portrayed in a somewhat negative light at first but makes sense after 30 years he fell back on tradition, it felt true to the character. Overall I think if you liked the first you'd like this, it's not as good but surprisingly doesn't ruin the original and is a fun follow-up. I also liked how it gave the daughters and the son agency without going overboard with it. Sadly no Samuel L. Jackson appearance, and Lisa's sister was absent for the entire film, kinda weird, do we know why her actress didn't return?

Andrew NDB
03-05-2021, 09:24 PM
The script was much weaker than I was hoping. It doesn't help that the movie isn't nearly as risque as the original (it's PG-13) and Akeem doesn't have any authority figures to react against.

I WAS happy to see I was wrong -- the son IS his son. I don't know why they needed to make it a convoluted one night stand why he was in Queens and not just maybe one of his "royal bathers" getting pregnant and leaving to America (which was already alluded to in the original).

Also, didn't like how the Wesley Snipes threat just dissipated. He goes from his wanting to wipe out Zamumba being barely put at bay because his daughter is supposed to marry Akeem's son... but when that doesn't happen, Akeem merely telling his old fiancee it's OK to stop barking like a dog after 35 years? Shesus. I'm pretty sure Akeem would have given her permission sometime in the past 35 years if someone bothered to ask him to.