Supergirl movie in the works

[Autbot_Benz]

EXCLUSIVE: Warner Bros and DC are developing a feature film based around Supergirl, the heroine and cousin of Superman. Oren Uziel is working on the script, I’ve confirmed. Not a lot more is being divulged at this point, and it comes as a surprise considering most internet chatter has been based on what will next happen for Superman, who after the 2013 film Man of Steel, was conscripted to become key to the plots of Batman V Superman, and more recently Justice League.

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There is no producer on Supergirl at this point. According to DC mythology, the character was a teen when she escaped the doomed planet Krypton along with the infant who grew up as Clark Kent. Supergirl has been played by Melissa Benoist in the Greg Berlanti/Andrew Kreisberg/Allison Adler Warner Bros series creation that heads into Season Four on the CW.

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It is unclear whether Superman will appear in this but if the rumors are true that Warner Bros and DC Entertainment are looking to create a new template for future Superman movies, this would seem a likely place to hatch a new persona. Henry Cavill, coming off a terrific turn opposite Tom Cruise in Mission: Impossible Fallout, has played the stoic Man of Steel in the movies so far.

The move toward Supergirl is reflective of a change in focus at the studio, where the superhero effort is now headed by Walter Hamada, who shepherded many of New Line’s genre film hits before moving over when the entire DC braintrust was dismantled after the lackluster Justice League, which grossed $615 million worldwide on a reported $300 million budget.

Finding a different way back to the Superman universe through Supergirl reflects the differing mindset of DC priority titles to be a bit out of the box, and away from a slate which, with the notable exception of the Patty Jenkins-directed Wonder Woman, has resulted in too many films that have been leaden, dark, and not that fun. And expensive — Man of Steel, Batman Vs Superman and Justice League carried around $800 million in production budgets to gross a collective $2.1 billion, according to reported budget estimates.

Upcoming films include The Joker, the Todd Phillips-directed film that will see Joaquin Phoenix play the iconic villain character, with Robert De Niro playing a talk show host who is a formative influence on the character who eventually becomes The Joker. That film shoots in New York next month and bows October 4, 2019. Also on the boards is Birds of Prey, the film that brings Margot Robbie back to her Harley Quinn character, with Cathy Yan (she directed the Sundance pic Dead Pigs) set to direct an ensemble of female antiheroes with production starting in January. And last but hardly least, War For The Planet of the Apes helmer Matt Reeves is hard at work on the next iteration of Batman. The next DC releases are Aquaman and Shazam (the latter was the most entertaining trailer I saw at the recent San Diego Comic-Con). Starting production in February will be The Flash starring Ezra Miller, with Jonathan Goldstein & John Francis Daley (Game Night) directing.
Oren Uziel
Courtesy Slate PR

Uziel’s script work includes an untitled collaboration with John Krasinski and Pearl Street partners Ben Affleck and Matt Damon, as well as a Mortal Kombat, 22 Jump Street, The Cloverfield Paradox, and the in production Sonic The Hedgehog. He’s repped by WME and Writ Large.

The studio is a ways away from what likely will be a search to get a female director (Wonder Woman 1984 and the original all had male writers who worked on those films), and this is in nascent stages. Getting Gal Gadot off the Fast & Furious movies was a huge coup for Warner Bros. Is it too early to wonder who’ll make a terrific Supergirl?

https://deadline.com/2018/08/supergirl-movie-warner-bros-dc-comics-universe-oren-uziel-script-superman-1202440687/

[Andrew NDB]

Yes, yes, right alongside the Batgirl movie and everything else that isn't coming out.

[ZariusTwo]

...Kind of funny how things work out exactly like it did in the 70s/80s

Three Superman movies, then a Supergirl movie...is there hope for a Nuclear Man reboot?

[Andrew NDB]

What's the current tally of DC movies in pre-production?

Supergirl, Batgirl, The Batman, Birds of Prey, Gotham City Sirens, Suicide Squad 2, Harley Quinn, Harley Quinn & Joker, Blackhawk, Green Lantern Corps, Flash/Flashpoint, Black Adam, non-canon Joker movie, canon Joker movie, Deathstroke, New Gods, Cyborg (dead?), Nightwing, Justice League Dark, Booster Gold. Right?

Shesus...

[ZariusTwo]

Some interesting rumors about why this is a thing...apparently talks with Caville aren't going very well and this is a backdoor option to carry on the DCEU franchise without depending on him

https://twitter.com/TheComixKid/status/1026528453502226432

[Andrew NDB]

What talks with Cavill? No talks have taken place. Every interview with him, he's like, "I have no idea about MoS 2. No one has said anything to me."

[ZariusTwo]

What talks with Cavill? No talks have taken place.

Yes there have been. Hardball negotiations according to Grace Randolph

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Yes, yes, right alongside the Batgirl movie and everything else that isn't coming out.

:tlol: Exactly.

[Shark_Blade]

If it isn’t Melissa Benoist I don’t want it.

[sdp]

If it isn’t Melissa Benoist I don’t want it.

It won't be. Imagine how much more buzz the Justice League movie had been if Grant Gustin had been Flash in it and therefore all of the Arrowverse in continuity? I mean the Arrowverse is the closest thing DC has to the MCU an instead they have this failed movie universe.

Who cares if the Arrowverse had already used some characters DC has plenty of characters and villains for the big screen, it's not like separating things did any good to the DCEU.

[Andrew NDB]

It won't be. Imagine how much more buzz the Justice League movie had been if Grant Gustin had been Flash in it and therefore all of the Arrowverse in continuity? I mean the Arrowverse is the closest thing DC has to the MCU an instead they have this failed movie universe.

Who cares if the Arrowverse had already used some characters DC has plenty of characters and villains for the big screen, it's not like separating things did any good to the DCEU.

Marrying the Arrowverse into the DCEU would have been a huge coup. That is, if Supergirl wasn't on a separate Earth. Then it all gets messy.

[Sumac]

Marrying the Arrowverse into the DCEU would have been a huge coup. That is, if Supergirl wasn't on a separate Earth. Then it all gets messy.
She can relabel herself as Powergirl.

[drgon78]

If it has nothing to do with the Supergirl TV series then it might be good.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It won't be. Imagine how much more buzz the Justice League movie had been if Grant Gustin had been Flash in it and therefore all of the Arrowverse in continuity? I mean the Arrowverse is the closest thing DC has to the MCU an instead they have this failed movie universe.

Who cares if the Arrowverse had already used some characters DC has plenty of characters and villains for the big screen, it's not like separating things did any good to the DCEU.

It would have been messy, but it would've been a HELL of a way to further differentiate the MCU and the DCEU.

[Andrew NDB]

I read a recent thing from Kevin Smith where he made a concerted argument for how the Nolan Batman trilogy should have been made retroactively part of the DCEU. I think he's right. With just a little nudge, TDKR could have been set up just fine for it.

I mean, think about it. If Bale had been Batman in Batman V Superman... now we'd have horses in the race.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I read a recent thing from Kevin Smith where he made a concerted argument for how the Nolan Batman trilogy should have been made retroactively part of the DCEU. I think he's right. With just a little nudge, TDKR could have been set up just fine for it.

I mean, think about it. If Bale had been Batman in Batman V Superman... now we'd have horses in the race.

If Bale had been Batman, that means Nolan would possibly have been more involved... which means we could have avoided most of the major problems with Batman V Superman.

Wonder who Chris Nolan would cast for Lex Luthor?

[Andrew NDB]

Wonder who Chris Nolan would cast for Lex Luthor?

He tends to re-use... maybe DiCaprio?

I still say Joachim Phoenix for Lex, as they originally considered.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

He tends to re-use... maybe DiCaprio?

I still say Joachim Phoenix for Lex, as they originally considered.

I can't see DiCaprio bald, but he could do Lex very, very well. And Phoenix would've been great.

[Andrew NDB]

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[Andrew NDB]

You guys really don't think she'll be a good Supergirl?

https://i.ibb.co/0RhzNyzc/sg.jpg

[IMJ]

Really hard to follow up Melissa Benoist, man. I know it was only a T.V. series, but honestly she was iconic in the role.

[Andrew NDB]

Really hard to follow up Melissa Benoist, man. I know it was only a T.V. series, but honestly she was iconic in the role.

I'm sure she was. I'll never know. I lasted like 2 episodes into her Supergirl show and I just couldn't continue. And I was able to suffer through MOST of The Flash and Arrow's final horrible seasons.

My only critique on Benoist was that she seemed a little too mature for the role. I think Supergirl needs to be a bit more spritely.

[IMJ]

I'm sure she was. I'll never know. I lasted like 2 episodes into her Supergirl show and I just couldn't continue. And I was able to suffer through MOST of The Flash and Arrow's final horrible seasons.

My only critique on Benoist was that she seemed a little too mature for the role. I think Supergirl needs to be a bit more spritely.

I stopped watching literally at the episode where that gorgeous military chick had some dialog resembling "I don't want to spend my life working for angry old white men".

It was around the peak of the "be racist towards white males" movement of the last ten years.

[Andrew NDB]

https://i.ibb.co/b5PNtZcF/517100906-1060134539584950-3590228087661539872-n.jpg

Not too bad. Looks like they gave her some kind of leggings, though... but that may or may not be because she's in a cold environment there.

[Andrew NDB]

Hoooo boy... after trying to make the Superman movie and Peacemaker like Guardians of the Galaxy...

https://cosmicbook.news/supergirl-like-guardians-james-gunn?fbclid=IwdGRzaANcB-BjbGNrA1wH3GV4dG4DYWVtAjExAAEeqGSRh3gNEe_EeSsJsIyu laDkfhXZbfuwoy2x9DG8o3Uv3T87osQVly48nmI_aem_Aaeheo wAYZcCmkY-aKFL0A

... now Gunn is actually saying Supergirl will be like Guardians of the Galaxy.

[sdp]

I love the new supergirl, her sassy drunk ass she can do no wrong https://media.tenor.com/TJ2E4ae9Q6wAAAAM/supergirl-milly-alcock.gif

[CyberCubed]

I wonder if DC will allow James Gunn to show her sleeping around with a lot of alien guys. Usually they don't like portraying female heroines like this but James Gunn could get away with it. They allowed that fully nude orgy scene in Peacemaker when that looked like something straight out of The Boys series instead. I don't expect nudity but they could show her gangbanging multiple guys on some alien planet.

[IMJ]

I wonder if DC will allow James Gunn to show her sleeping around with a lot of alien guys. Usually they don't like portraying female heroines like this but James Gunn could get away with it. They allowed that fully nude orgy scene in Peacemaker when that looked like something straight out of The Boys series instead. I don't expect nudity but they could show her gangbanging multiple guys on some alien planet.

That actress is so unattractive that I'm not sure why you'd want to see that in the first place....

[drgon78]

That actress is so unattractive that I'm not sure why you'd want to see that in the first place....

I agree, I don't like her at all.

[sdp]

Well, let's not forget IMJ is into fat chicks
https://i.imgur.com/xKV4fcn.png

[Andrew NDB]

That actress is so unattractive that I'm not sure why you'd want to see that in the first place....

I agree, I don't like her at all.

Guys... she's not bad at all*. Just watch her in like the first couple House of the Dragon episodes and see if you feel the same.

* I say this, before seeing her spout James Gunn dialogue and being a girl boss for 2 hours will have a good shot at changing my mind.

[Autbot_Benz]

Trailer will be our Tuesday the 11th

[IMJ]

Well, let's not forget IMJ is into fat chicks
https://i.imgur.com/xKV4fcn.png

:lol::lol:
I just saw this. I must not have come back to the thread....

wtf? :lol::lol:

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/2ov3t6R.jpeg

[Andrew NDB]

Oof... "whatever" instead of "the American Way," now? I'm sure that won't piss off anybody.

[sdp]

:lol::lol:
I just saw this. I must not have come back to the thread....

wtf? :lol::lol:

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/cinematic-photo-very-plump-hourglassshaped-260nw-2678855547.jpg
Oof... "whatever" instead of "the American Way," now? I'm sure that won't piss off anybody.

Who is it going to piss off? Boomers?
When was the last time that was even part of the motto? I remember in the 90s they were already making fun of it and parodying by taking out the American Way part. the 90s, that was 3 decades ago.
I mean it's clear the marketing is going for" This is an edgy Supergirl
If anything it's a bit cringe that they still think removing the american way is edgy but it's clearly still triggering boomers like you so I guess it's working

[Andrew NDB]

Who is it going to piss off? Boomers?

Over half the country, dork.

Like I said with Gunn's Superman when Gunn said Superman would instead be saying "truth, justice and a better tomorrow" instead (before he had the good sense to cut that out, I guess? I don't remember actually hearing it in the movie)... better to just avoid it altogether.

[sdp]

they haven't used it in cartoons or movies since I was born so at least foe 3 decades.It's always been parodied or changed in superman shows/movies for as long as I've been alive. Probably the Superfriends show might have still used it but that's like a 70s show.

[Andrew NDB]

they haven't used it in cartoons or movies since I was born so at least foe 3 decades.It's always been parodied or changed in superman shows/movies for as long as I've been alive. Probably the Superfriends show might have still used it but that's like a 70s show.

I know, I get it, but to even kiiinda trot it out and not actually do the last part ("... the American way") is rightfully going to piss off a huge part of a whole country who Superman is supposed to be an icon for.

[frank_one]

I know, I get it, but to even kiiinda trot it out and not actually do the last part ("... the American way") is rightfully going to piss off a huge part of a whole country who Superman is supposed to be an icon for.But this isn't Superman, this is drunken Supergirl with sunglasses.

[ZariusTwo]

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[CyberCubed]

Looks exactly like a Guardians of the Galaxy movie just with Kara. Even the humor is Marvel humor.

[Andrew NDB]

Boy, is this gonna flop.

[Autbot_Benz]

I think it looks good. It’s based off of the critically acclaimed tom king book woman of tomorrow

[Andrew NDB]

I think it looks good. It’s based off of the critically acclaimed tom king book woman of tomorrow

Yeah, like Gunn's Superman was supposedly based off of the critically acclaimed All-Star Superman.

We've seen over and over again girl boss movies failing enormously at the box office, even ones that are really good. I see absolutely nothing here that makes me think this is going to be the movie to reverse the trend. And the energy this trailer gives off is going to be off-putting.

[IMJ]

But this isn't Superman, this is drunken Supergirl with sunglasses.

I saw what was, I guess, a trailer for the trailer (clown world), and a lot of the comments were calling it "Supergirl: Guardian of the Galaxy" or something like that.

The movie might be baseline entertainment, but I just can't imagine this bolstering a "Universe of film content".

I dunno. Maybe? I dunno.

-edit-
I just now saw the trailer Zarius posted above there. Um. Yeah. They should have gone for Michael Turner's version from his World's Finest work and cast Margot Robbie as Supergirl. This isn't going to do well.....

[sdp]

My wife's movie looks great, can't wait.
well I might wait for streaming but that's more on me not liking going to theaters than anything else

[CyberCubed]

Yeah this isn't a movie I'll see in theaters. I did see Superman in theaters this year, but as I said, I only see maybe 2-3 movies a year in theaters and only the biggest ones. Everything else I wait till it comes out for free in HD on the illegal streaming websites.

[IMJ]

It's gonna flop badly, but will later get a headline somewhere that says "Box Office Failure Finds New Life As Super Success on Streaming!"

If it was a Marvel movie there'd already be a campaign calling haters "Misogynists" and posting comments like "How can you say it's bad until you've paid to see it in the theater - you can't say it's bad until you've done THAT."

[Andrew NDB]

Also, "Supergirl fails because of men." Simultaneously, "Supergirl doesn't NEED men to watch it!"

[sdp]

AI is wonderful, you can already find a video of Supergirl getting triple teamed at the bar shown in the trailer :lol:

My wife is so kinky

[CyberCubed]

The irony when you realize both netflix and Paramount are currently fighting to own movies like this.

[CyberCubed]

On another note if this movie truly doesn't do well (either review wise, or box office wise), I do think it'll cause a serious lost of interest in James Gunn's universe. Superman 2 will probably do well, but beyond that? The fact that there's still no Batman confirmed for this universe this late is already pretty concerning.

[Andrew NDB]

There's a lot on the rumor mill about Gunn already quietly being taken off of anything but the "Superman Family" movies. And now he's already saying he has "no idea" what's going on with Lanterns.

[sdp]

It'd be funny if the Snyder arc happens again this time with Gunn :lol:

I mean if they couldn't do it when the MCU and cinematic universes were hot, what can they expect now. I almost don't want it to fail only because of that one user from the Peacemaker threads, his life was this DCUverse :lol:

[Autbot_Benz]

https://i.imgur.com/8sEIw82.jpeg

Better look at Lobo

[IMJ]

This is what happens when your creative director spends years doing interviews about his "genius" film slate before even making a single movie.

And as these DCU flicks continue to not look so hot, the bright fun of Superman is going to give way to the very real criticisms such as "you could have used Bizarro along with your weird dimensional plot, but you used a clone instead?!?"

[ZariusTwo]

They've now dropped Junkie XL as composer and hired a new one, their third total.

https://www.supermansupersite.com/DC_Studios_Supergirl_Taps_Claudia_Sarne_as_Films_T hird_Composer.html

[Autbot_Benz]

They've now dropped Junkie XL as composer and hired a new one, their third total.

https://www.supermansupersite.com/DC_Studios_Supergirl_Taps_Claudia_Sarne_as_Films_T hird_Composer.html

Thank god junkie xl sucks ass

[Andrew NDB]

I can definitely see them wanting to get the music "just right," but third composer? Definitely there's been screenings by now so something about the tone probably isn't working.

[ZariusTwo]

Eight cuts of this have now reportedly been test screened.

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2026/3/28/supergirl-test-screenings

[IMJ]

Eight cuts of this have now reportedly been test screened.

https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2026/3/28/supergirl-test-screenings

They are trying to polish another nurdle from the turd that is the Gunn DC film slate.

[ZariusTwo]

New trailer tomorrow...they're already showing off the reshoots by having Corenswet in it.

[Andrew NDB]

New trailer tomorrow...they're already showing off the reshoots

That thing that Gunn said they'd never have, on anything. Because there'd be so much advance planning and "we won't proceed without a great script" and all.

Corenswet in this front and center is really their only hope. If Supergirl can somehow ride what little energy Corenswet's Superman movie has left, that might make it not a total embarrassment box office-wise. Though it's not like giving John Wick a huge part in "Ballerina" helped that movie, either -- and that was a GOOD movie.

[IMJ]

How long ago was it now that conversation about the "announced DC Film Slate" began?

And we had what? A cartoon, a T.V. show and a movie so far?

[Andrew NDB]

And man, Peacemaker season 2 was BAD. Did anyone like that?

[CyberCubed]

What took me out of Peacemaker, is that scene where the fat black woman was being chased by the Nazi crowd on the street, and yet the fat black woman was not only able to run fast enough from the crowd of 20+ young white athletic people to keep ahead of them, but she also jumped over a white fence to a house, and then ran in the backyard where the pool was. The way the fat black actress lifted her leg over that white fence, there's no believeable way to me she could lift her weight up over that fence like that (along with the people not catching up to her).

I just don't believe fat black women can move that fast. She would have either toppled over, lost her breath, or falling down when she lifted that one leg over the white fence. (also after that, the Nazi crowd jump in the pool and chase after her through the pool water for some reason, instead of you know, running alongside the pool instead).

Once that happened, I knew I could not take the season seriously. That fat black women should of keeled over right then and there and been out of breath.

[Autbot_Benz]

What took me out of Peacemaker, is that scene where the fat black woman was being chased by the Nazi crowd on the street, and yet the fat black woman was not only able to run fast enough from the crowd of 20+ young white athletic people to keep ahead of them, but she also jumped over a white fence to a house, and then ran in the backyard where the pool was. The way the fat black actress lifted her leg over that white fence, there's no believeable way to me she could lift her weight up over that fence like that (along with the people not catching up to her).

I just don't believe fat black women can move that fast. She would have either toppled over, lost her breath, or falling down when she lifted that one leg over the white fence. (also after that, the Nazi crowd jump in the pool and chase after her through the pool water for some reason, instead of you know, running alongside the pool instead).

Once that happened, I knew I could not take the season seriously. That fat black women should of keeled over right then and there and been out of breath.

Shut The **** up cubed christ

[IMJ]

What took me out of Peacemaker, is that scene where the fat black woman was being chased by the Nazi crowd on the street, and yet the fat black woman was not only able to run fast enough from the crowd of 20+ young white athletic people to keep ahead of them, but she also jumped over a white fence to a house, and then ran in the backyard where the pool was. The way the fat black actress lifted her leg over that white fence, there's no believeable way to me she could lift her weight up over that fence like that (along with the people not catching up to her).

I just don't believe fat black women can move that fast. She would have either toppled over, lost her breath, or falling down when she lifted that one leg over the white fence. (also after that, the Nazi crowd jump in the pool and chase after her through the pool water for some reason, instead of you know, running alongside the pool instead).

Once that happened, I knew I could not take the season seriously. That fat black women should of keeled over right then and there and been out of breath.

The way you describe it reminds me of a young Princess Leia being chased through the woods by the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

[Andrew NDB]

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[IMJ]

You know.... this movie just has nothing going for it.

Supergirl largely in a "powered down situation" without the yellow sun. Only interesting to coffee-house yuppies spouting cliches about "interesting character situations". But not in reality.

Supergirl just isn't cast well. Supergirl should either be a Michael Turner-level of gorgeous (think the hottest OF model you've ever seen that conforms to Supergirl's dimensions) OR the perfect "girl next door style of hot" (Melissa Benoit fits here). This girl is neither of them.

It took forever to pump this "Universe" out and it was done with a slightly-above-average-but-not-spectacular Superman flick and some TV shows that no one honestly gives a $#!( about.

I just see this movie coming and going and not doing anything for the DCEU.

[Antoniocafe]

Watched both the Supergirl and the MOTU trailers, and my God do they both look like they're gonna be a couple of piles of doggie doodoo. Pretty much everything the last 15 years or so has been completely worthless. I mean for the love of God, TRY HARDER. The Netflix MOTU mini series(es) weren't the greatest thing I've ever seen. But if you just put a little effort like they did, you at least end up.with a halfway decent product.

[Andrew NDB]

"What if... a dog gets injured and Supergirl has to save it?"

This was literally the hook for James Gunn, I think. Except he forgot that he made sure nobody liked that dog in the last movie.

[CyberCubed]

I don't think it looks completely bad, but it looks like your typical "ho-hum" movie where you didn't mind watching it but you're not going to remember anything about it a week later. Also the actress cast looks alright, she's not like stunningly beautiful or anything but she looks good enough.

[Andrew NDB]

They're kind of doing the actress a disservice in this with the hair & makeup department -- I would still say people should watch those first few episodes of "House of the Dragon" to see her in a better light. But remember, as James Gunn said, he wants this to show young girls "it's OK to be messy" (his words).

[frank_one]

"What if... a dog gets injured and Supergirl has to save it?"
This is what happens in the comics this movie is based on. She travels across the universe to find a cure for Crypto and to revenge the murder of the little girl's father.

[Andrew NDB]

Aw no... c'mon. It's beginning... the Supergirl actress now: "Alcock also tells Vanity Fair that backlash is inevitable because "simply existing as a woman in [franchise IP] is something that people comment on. We have become very comfortable having this weird ownership of women’s bodies. I can’t really stop them."

Why would she say this? For what purpose?

https://variety.com/2026/film/news/supergirl-milly-alcock-backlash-scorsese-superhero-movies-1236703613/?fbclid=IwdGRjcAQ5YFZjbGNrBDlgU2V4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNy dGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHi33xzl1jHqK82XZ7X HrVY1VqXxyPs8a5e1rDplOih4lO68gBoiPQje3tywk_aem_i4V _oW8oYL_o0HbXXlekWA

This is how you get nobody to show up for your movie. When will they learn?

[ZariusTwo]

I don't think it looks bad, but I just don't like how this version of Kara is written.

[Antoniocafe]

I think the series that aired fairly recently on the CW is gonna end up much better than this movie. Unless the characters name is Batman, DC is just much better at their tv shows than they are their movies. I'll take the "Arrowverse" shows over the attempt to replicate Marvel's cinematic universe any day.

[Andrew NDB]

I think the series that aired fairly recently on the CW is gonna end up much better than this movie.

I'm not sure there's very much that could be worse than that CW show. That was prime CW at its worst.

[sdp]

I don't know what you guys are talking about, movie looks great. I also think this is the most interesting live action Supergirl we've ever gotten. I actually just watched the 80s movie for the first time the other day and well that movie is certainly 80s. I don't see many movies in theaters but I'll probably watch this one.

I've actually watched everything in the DCU so far, and it hasn't even been my intention. That Green Lantern show is going to break the streak tho :lol:

And man, Peacemaker season 2 was BAD. Did anyone like that?

It wasn't bad, just disappointing after the first season. Should've been half as long and been better.

"What if... a dog gets injured and Supergirl has to save it?"

This was literally the hook for James Gunn, I think. Except he forgot that he made sure nobody liked that dog in the last movie.
I loved Krypto in the movie, he was far more likeable than Superman.

What took me out of Peacemaker, is that scene where the fat black woman was being chased by the Nazi crowd on the street, and yet the fat black woman was not only able to run fast enough from the crowd of 20+ young white athletic people to keep ahead of them, but she also jumped over a white fence to a house, and then ran in the backyard where the pool was. The way the fat black actress lifted her leg over that white fence, there's no believeable way to me she could lift her weight up over that fence like that (along with the people not catching up to her).

I just don't believe fat black women can move that fast. She would have either toppled over, lost her breath, or falling down when she lifted that one leg over the white fence. (also after that, the Nazi crowd jump in the pool and chase after her through the pool water for some reason, instead of you know, running alongside the pool instead).

Once that happened, I knew I could not take the season seriously. That fat black women should of keeled over right then and there and been out of breath.

I can outrun ya' any day skinny boi!

[CyberCubed]

I found it. Watch this scene and tell me this makes any sense:

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There's also a part before this, she is so fat, yet she manages to outrun 20+ people chasing her, then look how she hops her large body over that fence in the house, it stretched plausibility for me because I'm pretty sure fat people don't have any athletic ability...?

If this was real life she'd be panting and out of breath in 10 seconds and then keeling on the floor as they caught up to her.

[IMJ]

Bro you put a video with "nazis" on the TMNT forums. You are going to trigger the crazies...

[Autbot_Benz]

I found it. Watch this scene and tell me this makes any sense:

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There's also a part before this, she is so fat, yet she manages to outrun 20+ people chasing her, then look how she hops her large body over that fence in the house, it stretched plausibility for me because I'm pretty sure fat people don't have any athletic ability...?

If this was real life she'd be panting and out of breath in 10 seconds and then keeling on the floor as they caught up to her.

Why are you so obsessed with fat black women cubed? I thought you hated them :lol:

[Andrew NDB]

I don't know what you guys are talking about, movie looks great. I also think this is the most interesting live action Supergirl we've ever gotten. I actually just watched the 80s movie for the first time the other day and well that movie is certainly 80s. I don't see many movies in theaters but I'll probably watch this one.

It could very well be the best Supergirl we've ever seen in live action, for sure. But that's a pretty low bar.

Personally I think (maybe after these... apparently 8 test screenings -- which is sounding like a new record? -- and different cuts?) we'll end up with something pretty good. But like maybe Ant-Man 1 good. Like, "That was... eh... pretty OK, right?" And then we forget about it in a week. At best. But I think there is a very thin road to this movie making much money.

I loved Krypto in the movie, he was far more likeable than Superman.

Krypto did get knocked down way less than Superman, at least. As in Superman got knocked down/out about 20 times in the movie and Krypto only got knocked down once, and the punch that did it was cut out of the movie.

[Andrew NDB]

Now this is just mean. Also, I don't agree. But...

https://i.ibb.co/JWVYyb0L/Messenger-creation-03075-BCB-E1-B5-4845-9-C44-7-EDB27-C4-D49-E.jpg

[sdp]

leave my monkee wife alone. Only I can supply her bananas.

https://i.imgur.com/H7xAhCf.gif
https://i.imgur.com/TuvIVcB.gif

[Andrew NDB]

Yeesh. Way to doom it a little more.


https://www.foxnews.com/media/supergirl-actress-mocks-critics-says-lot-them-christian-dads

[ZariusTwo]

Yeesh. Way to doom it a little more.


https://www.foxnews.com/media/supergirl-actress-mocks-critics-says-lot-them-christian-dads

https://chrisvanvliet.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/christian.jpg

[IMJ]

They had another trailer for this before the Mandalorian today, and not only was I entirely disinterested, but I realized that they cast a Supergirl who looks like Jackie Earle Haley.

Who casts a Supergirl that literally no one would dream of tappin'?

[CyberCubed]

The movie is likely going to shape up to be fairly average, you can tell by the trailers and what we know of the plot. I don't think it'll be a bad movie but a fairly standard/average movie that nobody remembers a week after they see it. I'll watch it when it comes out on the illegal streaming websites.

[frank_one]

I'll watch it when it comes out on the illegal streaming websites.When was the last time you have gone to a cinema?

[Coola Yagami]

When was the last time you have gone to a cinema?

Hell, when's the last time this guy left the house?

[Andrew NDB]

Box office predictions?

I would say around a 35 million dollar opening weekend with things flatlining around 150 million altogether, worldwide. Doing just a hair better than "Ballerina," which was actually a good movie and had a decent amount of positive buzz behind it.

[sdp]

I think a lot will depend on how well Toy Story 5 is doing, which I have no idea if it'll be a huge success or not, I think I read it was tracking a billion which seems surprising to me. I doubt He-Man is going to be taking any eyes off of supergirl.

I don't think Supergirl will do as well as Superman last year but I don't think it'll be a bomb either, it'll likely do "just enough" to not be seen as a failure but neither a success. Unless of course Krypto goes viral. I'm honestly considering watching it in theaters, I think it looks good.

[CyberCubed]

A lot of men also won't go to theaters to watch a female superhero led movie, at least not unless their wife or girlfriend asks them to go. Imagine being a 35-40 year old man holding up your movie ticket saying, "I'm here to see Supergirl."

Many men are worried about their masculinity and seeing a superhero movie "for girls" might make them feel a little too in touch with their feminine side. They also wouldn't admit to seeing the movie to other friends or co-workers. Supergirl just doesn't have the mainstream appeal of Superman or even Wonder Woman.

[Andrew NDB]

Many men are worried about their masculinity and seeing a superhero movie "for girls" might make them feel a little too in touch with their feminine side. They also wouldn't admit to seeing the movie to other friends or co-workers. Supergirl just doesn't have the mainstream appeal of Superman or even Wonder Woman.

Yeah, WW was very different. That was stoic and heroism played earnestly and the trailers succeeded in making it look like an event, which it was in many ways.

Supergirl? She looks fifty shades of jaded and the movie appears to be about, "It's OK to be messy." Nobody is going to see this but the true die-hards.

[Andrew NDB]

https://i.ibb.co/CsnyDFMJ/725947822-10227929007248915-2623103306782656515-n.jpg

In other words... not new at all, then? Like everything else, basically?

[IMJ]

The evil "binary"....ooooo... scary stuff.

Down with the binary-archy!

[CyberCubed]

I really don't understand why people keep saying straight characters are, "LGBT icons?" That doesn't make any sense, does it? Why would someone look at a straight woman and assume she's representing lesbians?

Supergirl is straight in the movie (as far as I know), so why do people say this? They say this about other strong female leads in other movies/shows too and I don't get it.

[Andrew NDB]

I really don't understand why people keep saying straight characters are, "LGBT icons?" That doesn't make any sense, does it? Why would someone look at a straight woman and assume she's representing lesbians?

Supergirl is straight in the movie (as far as I know), so why do people say this? They say this about other strong female leads in other movies/shows too and I don't get it.

It's the "Queer" thing, which they've basically taken from the 80s and 90s which used to be just another word for "Gay" and essentially made it completely meaningless as "LGBTQ-leaning/friendly" but still straight.

Anybody straight can become a "Queer Icon" by just saying they're queer. Absolutely nothing changes in their day-to-day life or even the bedroom as a regular straight person.

[ToTheNines]

I’m the queer icon of the inceldrome.

[IMJ]

People want to identify with something so gay people find something they like and interpolate the "queer coding" into it.

In some ways it's no different than hearing a song you love and finding your own meaning in the lyrics even the song might not remotely be about what you think it's about.

In some ways.....

[sdp]

you people let yourself get played by the media so easily, there's barely anything SJW besides her being a woman, you won't find anything that say Jennifer Garner or Halle Barry didn't say or use in the marketing for Elektra or Catwoman and those would not be considered woke.

Only this one specific interview where she was straight up asked if she though it was queer or whatever, and she answered it the most polite way possible. The question was not for curiousity of what she actually thinks but done on purpose. Then depending on the political alignment they want to exploit, you see the dozens of articles saying "Supergirl is Queer!!! new interview confirms she's woke!!!" or "Supergirl is QUEER!!! new interview confirms she's part of our community".
Either way it will get hate clicks or love clicks from people who will now use this interview as hard canon to prove why DC is good and/or bad depending. The culture war at this point mostly exists because it makes money for people praising or trashing it, no one in charge or delivering the news cares about any message, they care about the money they get from it.

Honestly I don't think this movie will be that different from other James Gunn projects, it'll be fun to watch but at least for me it won't set the world on fire. I have my tickets for tuesday.

[CyberCubed]

It's basically a chick flick. It's not really for comic books fans. This is a movie where a man would only see it if their wife/girlfriend or sister begs them to go with them. Or if you're a die-hard Supergirl fan for whatever reason.

There's nothing wrong with seeing chick flicks, it's just many people are deeply concerned about their masculinity and don't want to watch something that could be "for girls," or make them, "too in touch with their feminine side."

It's the same reason men didn't want to go watch the Barbie movie in theaters alone a few years back, they had their wives/girlfriends or whatever with them as "back-up" in case they were accused of seeing a chick flick. Masculine men are concerned about their image and how many tattoo's they have and chains around their necks.

[IMJ]

Honestly I don't think this movie will be that different from other James Gunn projects, it'll be fun to watch but at least for me it won't set the world on fire. I have my tickets for tuesday.

Gunn has definitely proven himself to be a one-trick pony so your assessment is probably close to accurate.

I'd have paid to watch a Supergirl flick in a hearbeat if it was cast with a Benoist or Vandervoot caliber girl in it.... This current girl just doesn't interest me.

[Andrew NDB]

you people let yourself get played by the media so easily, there's barely anything SJW besides her being a woman

Oh, it's DEFINITELY and unabashedly the media looking for anything they can find or spin to make clickbait articles about, essentially, "UH-OH... WOKE!" but it doesn't take away from the fact that Alcock is continually saying the wrong things. Largely this is fueled by interviewers prodding her this way or that way, but the answers are still her own. All she has to say is, "This part is a huge opportunity and I'm proud to play Supergirl and I hope it inspires young girls" but these vultures are able to expose her... let's call it her "college indoctrination" at every turn.

It doesn't change anything for me. I'll still see the movie in theaters. Though not with that penis popcorn bucket. Have you guys seen it? It's ridiculous. What were they thinking?

[Coola Yagami]

Largely this is fueled by interviewers prodding her this way or that way, but the answers are still her own. All she has to say is, "This part is a huge opportunity and I'm proud to play Supergirl and I hope it inspires young girls" but these vultures are able to expose her... let's call it her "college indoctrination" at every turn.


But when cornered with that kinda stuff is... What is the proper thing to say? Like when asked about fans considering Supergirl a gay icon, what else can she do but play along. Saying "sorry guys but Supergirl likes dick. This movie really isn't for the gays" wouldn't go well for her either, including getting death threats.

[IMJ]

She could say something basically of even just baseline intelligence (for normally operating people) such as "I'm glad that people are finding something positively personal on our movie whether we intended to send that particular message or not!"

[Coola Yagami]

She could say something basically of even just baseline intelligence (for normally operating people) such as "I'm glad that people are finding something positively personal on our movie whether we intended to send that particular message or not!"

Hmmm that might still anger the LGBT crowd and cause social media drama. You know studios hate social media drama. The problem is once the wokes get involved you're kinda forced to say you agree or risk your job or reputation since Hollywood mostly sides with woke.

[IMJ]

Hmmm that might still anger the LGBT crowd and cause social media drama. You know studios hate social media drama. The problem is once the wokes get involved you're kinda forced to say you agree or risk your job or reputation since Hollywood mostly sides with woke.

Coola, you're such a right-wing troll.... :teek: :P

[Andrew NDB]

Yeesh...

https://www.facebook.com/kin.ho.348930/videos/1024853833435377/?idorvanity=911785082649210&rdid=eBU3n2tkQjjFH07p#

[Autbot_Benz]

gCoiA9mAzP4?si=wb75gKYvq2m7Qakb

[sdp]

Watched it last night, and well I enjoyed it a lot. I don't know why it's getting bad reviews, the movie is indeed what you saw on that first trailer, I don't think I saw the other trailers so can't comment on that, but that's what the movie is, simple story but effective. I guess if you really hate how supergirl was portrayed in the Superman movie then you won't like her here either. Movie doesn't deserve to flop but I guess it will? Not a bad movie at all even if nothing that's must watch.

If you want more details Lobo was handled fine, not amazingly well but not bad either. Little girl is as annoying as you'd expect. Krypto is barely in it since he's 'out' most of the movie. No real SJW stuff in it, besides the distracting skirt length shorts she wears under the skirt. Bad guy seems so generic looking, they could've had a better design for him I think but he was fine. The whole movie did aliens and space travel felt so much like Star Wars and much better than The Mandalorian or Disney Star Wars has ever done.
supergirl teaches the lesson to the girl that she shouldn't and as soon as she leaves kills the guy

[Andrew NDB]

I've read a few reviews that all say there are no real heroics of any kind in the movie. Is that true?

[sdp]

define heroics, the whole supergirl arc is she learns what it means to be a hero by the end
I mean she saves people, she takes care of that little girl through out the movie despite annoying her, and at the end she understands why the superman costume means something and decides to wear it to save the girl.

i'd count the space bus scene as heroics but I guess you can get technical she didn't do it to be a hero

You don't see her saving squirrel like superman did but after her arc it's something you could see her doing from now on after her conversation with clark

oh and no post credits or mid credit scenes whatsoever

[Andrew NDB]

oh and no post credits or mid credit scenes whatsoever

How stupid. Some kind of mega tease of Brainiac might have actually stoked SOME interest in Man of Tomorrow.

[Daytona]

What do you guys think - can it make over $300m?

I have my doubts. Looks like a flop to me.

[CyberCubed]

It's only at 60% currently on rotten, so it sounds like the epitome of an average movie. I'm just going to wait till it comes out for free on the illegal streaming websites, I have no idea why people pay money to watch "mid" movies as the Gen-Z kids say.

[Andrew NDB]

What do you guys think - can it make over $300m?

I have my doubts. Looks like a flop to me.

Sticking with my gut. 35 million dollar opening, then the movie flatlining around 150 million worldwide.

[Autbot_Benz]

It’s getting a lot of mixed reviews.

I just want it to beat the marvels box office

[sdp]

Well it doesn't really do anything wrong but it really doesn't do anything new, it's just another superhero movie so people aren't interested. Unless you want to see drunk supergirl, which that to me was exactly what I wanted.

[Andrew NDB]

Well it doesn't really do anything wrong but it really doesn't do anything new, it's just another superhero movie so people aren't interested. Unless you want to see drunk supergirl, which that to me was exactly what I wanted.

See, I'm 100% OK seeing a drunk Supergirl at some point. Often times in a lot of shows I enjoy whether its Star Trek or anything else, sooner or later you get to see this-or-that character drunk, and that's always fun. Now, I'm not sure I'm super into seeing Supergirl as A DRUNK™, but if framed properly with what she has gone through sure, that's fine. But that can't be like the whole thing. If this movie only semi-redeems her as this superheroine who will now "sometimes not drink to save the day," that's not really adding much to Chapter 2 in the Gunnverse. Especially if they're not so much as even throwing audiences a single crumb for Man of Tomorrow in its end/end credits. That's a huge faux pas.

[ZariusTwo]

$13 million on opening

https://deadline.com/2026/06/box-office-supergirl-toy-story-5-1236968254/

[sdp]

She's not drunk the whole movie but
she gets poisoned and is also later in a green sun planet, so basically always in some type incapacity that gets her to not have her super powers or move like she's drunk so the villain can have an actual advantage and move the plot

as for more thoughts I can see why some people might not call her heroic, I do think she goes through her arc, though I guess you can point to the final moment which I already spoiler commented on it on the last page which I guess means perhaps she still isn't perfect, but whatever. the villain as generic as he was grew on me, probably should've had some iconic villain for the better. also the little girl could've been someone else to make her more interesting

I think the movie bombing is a couple of reasons, superhero fatigue, no one actually cares about supergirl, movie doesn't try to do something too new, the culture war just doens't care about the movie SJWs don't see enough social justice in the movie to defend it and antiSJWs just keep thinking its some woke movie so they trash it, some people online are still making this about the Snyderverse for some odd reason. But overall I think it's just general audiences dont care and rather see Toy Story 5

[CyberCubed]

There's also people like me who just can't be bothered to pay money for anything anymore. I have no problem waiting 2 months for the HD rip on the illegal streaming websites.

I actually saw Superman in theaters last year. I hadn't bought a movie ticket with real money in so long I forgot how the process went. I didn't even know you could purchase tickets online and then have the guys scan the QR code on your phone. The last time I bought movie tickets they were still the paper movie tickets that they would tear in two after you buy them in the window! When they said they would scan a QR code on my phone it felt like I was in the future!

[neatoman]

So this movie is somewhat better than the Superman movie it's a sequel to and much better than the Supergirl movie from the 80's... Though neither is really a high bar to clear...

The first time I was annoyed with this movie was when we had the Krypton/Argo flashbacks and they reminded us of the whole "Kal-El was sent to rule earth as a god emperor and have a harem" thing from the previous one. Like, why? It was the most hated aspect of the previous movie, why keep insisting on it? What's worse is that Zor-El was explicitly aware of it, meaning Kara should be too. I mean, what? Did he really send her to Earth without saying something like "Oh, by the way, Uncle Jor-El sent your cousin there to be their lord and master, he's probably like constantly having women pump out his babies all the time, so expect to be seeing a lot of once-removeds" or what?

[Coola Yagami]

So this movie is somewhat better than the Superman movie it's a sequel to and much better than the Supergirl movie from the 80's... Though neither is really a high bar to clear...

The first time I was annoyed with this movie was when we had the Krypton/Argo flashbacks and they reminded us of the whole "Kal-El was sent to rule earth as a god emperor and have a harem" thing from the previous one. Like, why? It was the most hated aspect of the previous movie, why keep insisting on it? What's worse is that Zor-El was explicitly aware of it, meaning Kara should be too. I mean, what? Did he really send her to Earth without saying something like "Oh, by the way, Uncle Jor-El sent your cousin there to be their lord and master, he's probably like constantly having women pump out his babies all the time, so expect to be seeing a lot of once-removeds" or what?

Come to think of it.... Kara going to Earth and finding out Kal-El became the world's champion is the equivalent of Raditz arriving on Earth to find out that Goku hasn't conquered it yet and was living alright alongside the humans.

We saw the movie and it was fun. Too many ahh... Fluids for my liking. Didn't need to see Kara puking left and right and sitting on the toilet.

Also ironic how Kara was the one to get the 'go out there and be good' speech while Superman was expected to conquer and make harems.

[CyberCubed]

So apparently this movie really is doing very bad, worse than Shazam 2 and Joker 2 numbers even. This isn't a good look for the second major film in a new universe.

I think Superman 2 will be fine, but other than that, they're in some trouble. The Lanterns show probably won't make much of a blip outside the HBO crowd and Clayface is basically an indie movie. Peacemaker the show is pretty much dead?

They really gotta merge The Batman 2 with Gunn's universe because if they wait another 5+ years to introduce a new Batman that's going to be even worse.

[Andrew NDB]

I just have to ask a question here. Is all of this worth jettisoning Cavill? There could have been the soft reboot. But is this better?

[Barkworm]

Counter-question: Did you think Cavill was that great in the films he was in? I mean, I really enjoyed Batman v Superman (the Director's cut) and the JL Snyder cut but not necessarily because of Cavill. In Man of Steel he was relatively wooden as well.

[Allio]

I mean he was alright. I would say top 5 supermen.

[Autbot_Benz]

Counter-question: Did you think Cavill was that great in the films he was in? I mean, I really enjoyed Batman v Superman (the Director's cut) and the JL Snyder cut but not necessarily because of Cavill. In Man of Steel he was relatively wooden as well.

I thought cornswet was better than cavill. Cavill was wooden

[CyberCubed]

He's also way too old now, they obviously wanted to cast a young actor as a Superman for the next 10 years. Cavill is heading toward his 50's.

[IMJ]

Counter-question: Did you think Cavill was that great in the films he was in? I mean, I really enjoyed Batman v Superman (the Director's cut) and the JL Snyder cut but not necessarily because of Cavill. In Man of Steel he was relatively wooden as well.

I think the material itself reflected a lot of that "woodness". They Snyder-verse was definitely more aligned for a Batman to be running around in than a Superman.

[Andrew NDB]

Looks like I was about right. I said 35 million opening weekend and it did 38.

[ToTheNines]

Why are we talking about how hard Henry Cavill’s dick was?

[sdp]

Damn, Supergirl is getting murdered, The movie isn't bad, comic book movies truly are dead. I think the Superman movie next year is likely to do worse than Superman, even if not a bomb. Let's see how Avengers with RDJ fares but I think it's also likely going to be the least grossing avengers movie.

The DCU seems like it's going to die, and let's face it we're already on Year 2 of their 10 year plan, movies are releasing slowly, and we have no real big plan, those 10 years will pass faster than you think. Creature Commandos was fun but you can't make a universe out of that, PeaceMaker season 2 was inferior to season 1 which is techincally DCEU lmao, yeah. Green Lanterns looks terrible, yeah, this universe is done, and I like it, I really feel for that forum member who was so excited for each episode of peacemaker as they were coming out.

As far as the DCEU, nah, I loved it as much as a DC fan can, but it was dead, it had 16 movies or more and accomplished nothing, all the actors got too old for their roles and lack of direction from WB. At this point bringing it back would just be pointless. DC just missed the boat of the time cape heroes were literally mainstream.

launching a superhero universe today is like having a nu-metal band trying to make it big in the 2010s.

[Andrew NDB]

If Superman had been received better I'm sure Supergirl would have seen a big uptick. People didn't want to see a girlboss version of more of the same. Which isn't to say a Supergirl movie wouldn't already be an uphill battle. We've seen with GOOD girlboss movies like Furiosa and Ballerina there seems to be a low ceiling on turnout for these kind of movies. There just is.

[CyberCubed]

What even are the next movies coming after Superman 2 and Clayface? I don't even know. A Brave and the Bold movie? Is that still happening? Remember when Gunn said Blue Beetle 2 was happening? An Authority movie? An Amander Waller movie?! Peacemaker is also dead even if the character shows up somewhere later. What the hell.

And honestly Lanterns should of just been a movie instead of a TV show. They're making a TV show about Green Lantern nobody will watch instead of just making a 2 hour movie out of it. That was a bad call.

[Andrew NDB]

A Brave and the Bold movie? Is that still happening?

Gunn has been REALLY quiet about it for a while now. I think it might have been quietly taken off the table from him or maybe some behind the scenes politics with The Batman II/III.

Remember when Gunn said Blue Beetle 2 was happening?

I don't think he ever said that. He DID say that the Blue Beetle movie (in addition to being amazing) was part of his new DC Universe and was sort of being coy about you never know when you might see the character again. Peacemaker season 2 was a thought for him to pop up in but it didn't happen.

An Authority movie?

Totally cancelled. You can imagine that'd be exactly the kind of movie Gunn would want to be a part of but at some point they realized that only about 2 people would go to see it in the theater.

An Amander Waller movie?!

I think it's a show and is still supposedly happening? But maybe not.

Peacemaker is also dead even if the character shows up somewhere later. What the hell.

And all the characters from it are now part of Checkmate? But who even cares after that second season. Soooo bad.

And honestly Lanterns should of just been a movie instead of a TV show. They're making a TV show about Green Lantern nobody will watch instead of just making a 2 hour movie out of it. That was a bad call.

There could be something to a Green Lantern show vs. a movie, with the "True Detective" approach to make it accessible to the masses at least for a season or so. But it still stinks like even after all these years, DC is still embarrassed about the Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern movie.

As far as I know the next project will be a Jimmy Olson TV show? Euuugh... good luck with that!

[Autbot_Benz]

Gunn has been REALLY quiet about it for a while now. I think it might have been quietly taken off the table from him or maybe some behind the scenes politics with The Batman II/III.



Brave and the Bood is still happening just after the reeves one. He doesn’t want two Batman movies going at the same time

[Andrew NDB]

Brave and the Bood is still happening just after the reeves one. He doesn’t want two Batman movies going at the same time

He's been pretty open about it being perfectly fine about there being two "Batman movies" at the same time repeatedly over the past few years. Which I actually agree with him about -- there can definitely be room for a "Real" DC Universe Batman next to Reeves' bargain basement squirrel suit nonsense. But something changed at some point. The earlier scuttlebutt was that he was bullied out of doing Brave and the Bold until The Batman II but it is looking a bit more like until he can "prove" himself. Which he has yet to do now. Also that he has been quietly shepherded into being not really in charge of the DCU anymore but just "The Superman Family"... which is pretty terrible if true. That's like the last thing he should be in charge of. I'd actually be interested in seeing how he might approach a Batman movie.

[jignat]

I just saw Supergirl.


Pros:

Alcock, Momoa,and Corenswet are all great as Kara,Lobo,and Supes.

The flashback scenes on Krypton are more interesting at times than the main film even in full Kryptonian dialogue.


Cons:

It feels like a patchwork of scenes stitched together and there's a lack of tension until the last 1/3

The main villain is bland and basically a second rate Mad Max type of character.

The tension of whether Ruthie is going to kill the villain is undercut by what Kara does 5 seconds later after the final battle ends

There is a slightly weird song choice that took me out of the film during the final battle

Lobo is great but has minimal involvement with the main plot.

Misc:

Action is serviceable

Overall: A mediocre film that feels like a mix of Guardians of the Galaxy and Mad Max

6/10

[Andrew NDB]

Does anyone know if it's true they doubled down on Superman's parents/Kryptonians in general being evil conquerors?

[sdp]

Milly Alcock is really cute, she's the prettiset live action Supergirl, unsure how this campaign of her being so ugly form screencapping very specific action scenes or when she's in movement so she looks bad. She doesn't normally. Are her teeth perfect? no but they're fine, I'll take them over those sleeve perfect white teeth which hollwood stars so often have and are so disgusting to me.

I was also bummed that Supergirl's outfit is different, her skirt is longer and like I mentioned, the shorts she has underneath are just too damn long, the same length as her skirt, it's really distracting, I mean would short shorts like the ones runners use really have caused such an outrage?
She also never actually wears the supergirl outfit with her trench coat, every scene with the trench coat she is wearing civilian clothes and when she decides to be "supergirl" and fight for what is right she doesn't use the trench coat anymore. This isn't as big of a deal since we did see her the rest of the movie with it, I just find it curious that all the marketing has her like that when she actually doesn't.

Does anyone know if it's true they doubled down on Superman's parents/Kryptonians in general being evil conquerors?
There's like 2 throw away lines but if you didn't watch Superman they'd go over your head. It's just like "Kal el will be like a king to them, you could be like him" and but i mean it can be interpreted as well as a superhero, there's a similar line in Man of Steel. it didn't come off as evil conquerors.
It doesn't come off since her father sees it more as her on earth would be doing good theres , so the whole kal el conqueror plot is not understood here without more context. Which everyone agrees was just a bad take, but they're sticking to it if that answers your question.

[Coola Yagami]

Does anyone know if it's true they doubled down on Superman's parents/Kryptonians in general being evil conquerors?

Yeah, there was a throw-away line of Jor-El sending his son to Earth so he could be a god to them or something like that. I remember the wife and I rolled our eyes because we were hoping that would be abandoned.

[CyberCubed]

Supergirl is estimated to have a $125 million dollar loss:

https://deadline.com/2026/06/supergirl-bomb-boxoffice-1236970324/

Man, I did not expect it to do that badly. Paramount buying WB is going to be very interesting now to see what they do.

[IMJ]

Gunn has been REALLY quiet about it for a while now. I think it might have been quietly taken off the table from him or maybe some behind the scenes politics with The Batman II/III.



I don't think he ever said that. He DID say that the Blue Beetle movie (in addition to being amazing) was part of his new DC Universe and was sort of being coy about you never know when you might see the character again. Peacemaker season 2 was a thought for him to pop up in but it didn't happen.



Totally cancelled. You can imagine that'd be exactly the kind of movie Gunn would want to be a part of but at some point they realized that only about 2 people would go to see it in the theater.



I think it's a show and is still supposedly happening? But maybe not.



And all the characters from it are now part of Checkmate? But who even cares after that second season. Soooo bad.



There could be something to a Green Lantern show vs. a movie, with the "True Detective" approach to make it accessible to the masses at least for a season or so. But it still stinks like even after all these years, DC is still embarrassed about the Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern movie.

As far as I know the next project will be a Jimmy Olson TV show? Euuugh... good luck with that!

But the SLATE! THE SLATE! The SLATE was sooooooo amazing! :roll:

:lol:

[Andrew NDB]

VXdaOo7CLyg

[ZariusTwo]

“Gen Z does not care about superhero movies,” noted one studio head. “That genre belongs to millennials.”


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/supergirl-making-box-office-bomb-1236636425/

[CyberCubed]

That's weird since Gen-Z would have grown up during the height of the MCU, which started in 2008 and peaked around 2020. If you were born in the year 2000 you would have been 8-10 years old when Iron Man, Hulk, Captain America, Avengers, etc. all came out, meaning you would have been the prime target audience.

I think older Gen-Z kids were definitely the audience for superhero movies, it's probably the younger ones born around the year 2010 that weren't.

[sdp]

Because they moved on, remember when people would just move on? that's how He-Man, TMNT, and even Power Rangers died off after their fad. Only MCU was a thing for over a decade that kept building upon until it hit its peak and now it's going to take a lot longer for it to recover. and not to MCU fad levels, just current TMNT levels or whatever.
Before you say "but superheroes have been big forever", that's not true and it's different eras of superheroes, i'm specifically talking about MCU cinematic universes, it was a thing and normies moved on, Gen Z grew up, Gen Alpha doesn't care. outside of big names like batman/spider-man you won't see most movies making a lot of money, we'll see how bad things are when Avengers comes out. it'll clearly do big numbers but also undeperform, will it barely reach a billion? That will be a clear sign.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah, Batman and Spider-man really are the only evergreen superheroes. Even Superman has trouble staying relevant as we've seen with his various movies.

I do wonder how the X-men reboot would go. X-men cartoons have already been popular (look at the revival of '97) and the old X-men films have remained popular despite half of them not being very good. I really think X-men done properly would be the one exception.

[Andrew NDB]

Shesus, I just checked my local theater and Supergirl is only playing on one screen and one time only!

I do wonder how the X-men reboot would go. X-men cartoons have already been popular (look at the revival of '97) and the old X-men films have remained popular despite half of them not being very good. I really think X-men done properly would be the one exception.

"Properly" is the key word. Beyond whatever unnecessary race swapping and LGBBQing they do, I think there will be a real temptation to replace WWII/Nazi stuff with American racism stuff from the past and that will be hugely divisive if they go that route.

[Andrew NDB]

Oof... 80% drop in its second weekend! Like a rock. It may not even make it to 150 globally.

[Coola Yagami]

Shesus, I just checked my local theater and Supergirl is only playing on one screen and one time only!



"Properly" is the key word. Beyond whatever unnecessary race swapping and LGBBQing they do, I think there will be a real temptation to replace WWII/Nazi stuff with American racism stuff from the past and that will be hugely divisive if they go that route.

Maybe they'll say Magneto lost his parents during J6.

[Andrew NDB]

Maybe they'll say Magneto lost his parents during J6.

Bringing that catastrophic deathtoll to 3.

[CyberCubed]

Given World War II is now close to 80 years ago, they pretty much have to say Magneto's aging was slowed down. Back in the 90's it made sense for Magneto to be 70 if he was a kid during Nazi germany, but not anymore. He'd have to be over 100+ now.

[sdp]

I've said this before but superheroes work best at the time they were created, they don't work as ever green heroes of every decade, especially in the post 2000s worlds with mass communications.
This is specifically true for heroes like magneto who have very specific events that changing them for a more modern interpretation just messes with the character.
Captain America was a le to fix this rather cleverly by being frozen but others are just worse origina

[Coola Yagami]

I've said this before but superheroes work best at the time they were created, they don't work as ever green heroes of every decade, especially in the post 2000s worlds with mass communications.
This is specifically true for heroes like magneto who have very specific events that changing them for a more modern interpretation just messes with the character.
Captain America was a le to fix this rather cleverly by being frozen but others are just worse origina

That's another reason they shouldn't try to tie their lives to real world events, because time moves on and we're in a situation where the last decade takes place over a weekend or so and yet humanity is stuck on smartphones and social media like we are today.

They should really retcon it like Magneto (or whoever else) lost his parents during the Great Kree war of some unspecified decade. Something something some humans betrayed humanity with the Kree, blame mutants somehow something something.

At least with something made up like the Kree war you can say it happened in 20xx or just never specify the year, and if you do, it's easier to retcon a fictional event instead of trying to explain why a real world event like WW2 all of sudden didn't take place in 1939 for the sake of the story.

[IMJ]

I don't know why it has to be that complex to be honest. What it takes is a good writer who can figure out how to interlace positive super-hero themes within today's framework.

But that is very hard to do given the zeitgeist of the last 16 or so years now, especially when combined with the "Everybody Gets a Trophy" generation of passive-aggressors basically now the target audience for pop-culture.

It's a huge mismatch of generational sensibility to content.

Honestly, this generation of social-puritans is totally inverted from their "message". They are better off with content like "The Running Man" than they are "Captain America".

[CyberCubed]

Didn't they make a joke about this in the Superman movie, "Who still reads newspapers?" It's 2025+, most people aren't picking up newspapers from The Daily Planet.

It's the same way Clark Kent doesn't change in phone booths to his Superman costume anymore. LOL, remember when Clark would rush into a random phone booth on the street to put on his costume in the old comics and cartoons? They had to stop that when phone booths were no longer a thing.

[Coola Yagami]

I seem to recall there was a scene in the Reeves Superman movies where Clark ran to a phone booth and it was one of those smaller ones, not the ones that are actual booths, he just stopped and stared at it. I'm surprised even during the Reeves era the phone booth was out of fashion and that joke could be made.

[CyberCubed]

Apparently this is coming to streaming already by the end of July. Good they got this out quick, that way I can watch it for free when the illegal streaming websites get the HD rip.

I feel sorry for the saps who paid money for this in theaters, all you had to do was wait a month and a half and its on streaming already.

[Andrew NDB]

Damn, the movie is only at 117 WORLDWIDE. It's not even going to do as good as Ballerina, which was a GOOD movie with half the budget of Supergirl.

Apparently this is coming to streaming already by the end of July.

I'm sure they'll do the "Early Viewing" thing for a $17 rental or whatever for a week or two at first. But you know the moment they do that, it simultaneously appears you-know-where for free.

[CyberCubed]

God bless the illegal streaming websites. I think they're located in a mix of Indonesia, India, Russia and other third world countries and they always get the HD rip within a day or less when it comes out officially. Then they put it out over 50 different sites so if one gets taken down there's backups everywhere.

I never have to pay to watch a movie or TV show again unless I really want to see something in theaters (which I did for Superman in 2025), I think that was the first time I paid for a movie ticket since covid happened.

[Andrew NDB]

I probably will for Supergirl (and hey, I TRIED to get the wife or daughter to see it with me in the theater but it was a hard "NO" from both and no way I'm walking into the theater as a 40-something year old guy by myself), but as time goes on I find I actually pirate really nothing anymore. Nothing in almost a year, really. It's much easier just to "buy" a digital movie in 4K on Amazon in 2 seconds for $5-10 than fighting with torrents that will MAYBE be in 1080p and take an hour.

[CyberCubed]

I think a lot of females not being interested is the problem. If your wife/daughter aren't interested, that proves Supergirl isn't even working with the intended demographic. It's likely why it's failing at the box office because all women don't care about seeing the movie even though it's essentially, "for them."

If the female demographic doesn't care, who is this movie for? The small minority of 50+ year old male comic book Supergirl fans who have been buying issues since the 90's?

[Coola Yagami]

Yeah. I noticed a lot women on the interwebs complaining about men not seeing the movie while they make no mention about them seeing it themselves.

Personally I don't care what other people think of me, so depending on what was going on during opening weekend or so, I woulda still gone to see even if I was single.

Not 100% sure if the wife would have gone had we not gotten together. We see several movies these days cause they make for perfect date nights.

And from what I hear, despite women blaming the 'misogyny' or whatever, most of them only went to see Supergirl because their husbands/boyfriends probably dragged them to see it.

Unlike other movies we seen like the FNAF movies and such, there were no groups of 3 or so women all going together to see Supergirl. We only noticed couples, and ironically, small groups of obvious comic book geeks but like a single woman or groups of women? Naw. At least not in our theater.

[sdp]

My wife's movie might've tanked but maybe Millie will now be forced to do nudity in film to remain relevant.
Xanatos gambit.

[Andrew NDB]

I think a lot of females not being interested is the problem. If your wife/daughter aren't interested, that proves Supergirl isn't even working with the intended demographic.

But what's interesting is my wife, and to a lesser extent my 18 year-old daughter... they both seem to like the IDEA of the Supergirl movie being out there. Like, it's something they "Support." But just not anything they'd actually go out and watch, even if someone buys them a ticket for it, lol.

[ToTheNines]

But what's interesting is my wife, and to a lesser extent my 18 year-old daughter... they both seem to like the IDEA of the Supergirl movie being out there. Like, it's something they "Support." But just not anything they'd actually go out and watch, even if someone buys them a ticket for it, lol.

I’m laughing to my self imagining you sheepishly walking into a nearly empty theater for Supergirl and some super chatty male feminist comes in before the trailers and sits next to you and strikes up a conversation about how “important” this movie is lol

[CyberCubed]

So it's up on the illegal streaming websites so I watched it. It's about what I expected, what I was surprised about is how many scenes Superman was in. I thought he'd only be on 1 video screen call at the beginning, but he appears in several flashbacks through the film and they show when Kara first lands on Earth and meets him.

They also show Krypton's destruction which surprises me because the Superman movie didn't. We saw more of Superman's backstory in a Supergirl movie than his own movie! :lol:

Also Lobo is very underused. He only appears in a few scenes through the film. They made a big deal out of Aquaman playing him but he doesn't even appear all that much. The main villain was boring and terrible and the backstory for the girl sidekick was cliche, but there wasn't much else to it. Her actress made pretty much the same expression throughout the whole movie. Also we don't see Supergirl in her superhero costume till the very last fight of the movie.

Overall it is what it is. It's very run-of-the-mill but not bad. I can't imagine paying for it but watching for free is ideal.

[Andrew NDB]

Sounds kind of like Blue Beetle without the bad jokes?

[Andrew NDB]

Saw it myself just now. It was OK. It was just... nothing new and nothing to get excited about? And for all those composers they went through the music was nothing and bland.

You can also definitely spot the reshoot additions:

* EVERYTHING with Lobo in the third act had to be a reshoot addition when they decided they needed more Lobo, beginning with him in the jail cell. Which doesn't even make sense. How did he get caught? And then he just flies out of the movie, LOL! All that excitement for Momoa as Lobo and he's just a nothingburger in the movie.

* Krell in the alley killing the father/mother that poisoned Supergirl and then killing their daughter that the father/mother was trying to get back from him. It's never even brought up again. Definitely added to maybe increase the justification of Krell's later death. Probably their test audiences were like, "That was SOOOO mean when Supergirl killed him!"

* I think Superman's messages to Supergirl were in there originally, but the bit where he actually gets a hold of her and they talk "live" seems stitched in. I'm 50/50 if that ending with him and Supergirl is added. It might have been there originally, or a different and smaller version of it was.

It isn't shot very well. And yeah, Supergirl killing Krell was weird. If you're going to show her stabbing him in the neck and gut dead-on screen in a PG-13 movie where you can't show any blood, don't do it. They should have just cut to a side-view with a silhouette and have her behead him or something. That would have been much more effective and not lame.

They also had a great setup to feature Brainiac screwing with Argo there, or something there later on in a mid-credit scene but they give nothing at all. Not even a hint. Now it'll just be "HEEEERE'S BRAINIAC!!!" out of nowhere exactly like Dr. Doom in Avengers: Doomsday with 0 setup.

*edit: I was peeking again back at the fist part of season 1 of House of the Dragon. In that they knew how to light that actress and shoot her to capture her at her best and accentuate her prettiness. She seemed "Very Cute" and even sexy in that. In Supergirl whoever did the cinematography couldn't be bothered with any of that stuff. She's lit horribly and there are like bizarre zoomed in angles on her super jacked up lower front teeth. I didn't even know she HAD jacked up lower teeth until this movie, and I never should've if they were doing their job.

[CyberCubed]

*edit: I was peeking again back at the fist part of season 1 of House of the Dragon. In that they knew how to light that actress and shoot her to capture her at her best and accentuate her prettiness. She seemed "Very Cute" and even sexy in that. In Supergirl whoever did the cinematography couldn't be bothered with any of that stuff. She's lit horribly and there are like bizarre zoomed in angles on her super jacked up lower front teeth. I didn't even know she HAD jacked up lower teeth until this movie, and I never should've if they were doing their job.

I now understand why people say she looks like the feral kid from Mad Max 2. Their jawline is identical, which is pretty funny given there's a 40 year age gap between actors and he's a male kid from 1981 and we're now in 2026.

I wonder if they both have Neanderthal DNA in their ancestry which explains their looks. Ron Perlman also is a modern Neanderthal which is why they cast him in the 1980's movie "Quest for Fire" where he played an ancient caveman.

[Andrew NDB]

But there's also all of these camera angles like looking up at her face from below. Nobody looks good from that angle and they keep doing it with her, often while backlighting her hair and jawline. It's a bizaaaare choice.

[ZariusTwo]

oEoNulI3icY

[IMJ]

I can't believe how much cooler that was than what modern-Hollywood churned out in the Flashpoint flick.....