Dwayne Johnson outrages people with trip to Aquarium

[Andrew NDB]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/08/06/10/4EDF79F100000578-0-image-m-36_1533547814659.jpg

Basically, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson outraged animal rights people when he posted some pictures with his family at an aquarium.

See the article here:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6958588/dwayne-johnson-animal-rights-row-instagram-aquarium/

[Jester]

It's always something...

[neatoman]

Ah yes, the late 2010's, the era ruined by people pretending to be offended...

[TurtleTitan97]

These people will always find something to get offended over, no matter how insignificant.

[ZariusTwo]

What do they think?

IT DOES'NT MATTER WHAT THEY THINK

[plastroncafe]

People are allowed to be wrong without us giving them a larger platform on which to be louder about being wrong.

The Georgia Aquarium is AZA accredited.

[Prowler]

So of all people who visit aquariums, zoos, etc. they're gonna point the finger at The Rock. For the record, aren't those places actually helping toe preserve a lot of species? Modern day zoos, for example, are no longer places where animals sit sadly inside cages. They try to emulate their natural habitats and best and give them decent roaming space.

It's not like he went to the circus or attended a bullfighting event.

[Sumac]

An era of offended snowflakes continues.
**** them.

[turtle1237]

There really is no story lol. So he went to a Aquarium, big deal. It's really no different than a Zoo.

[Autbot_Benz]

An era of offended snowflakes continues.
**** them.

The world is turning into papenbrooks and its ****ing scary :lol:

[Shark_Blade]

https://i.imgur.com/9AqtI5S.gif

[IndigoErth]

You. You can't go to the aquarium. All the other people, who we don't protest outside the doors every day, they can go. But not you. You stay home.

[Klunk1234]

Of course, people will get angry at Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Visiting wild animals that should be in the wild, not in a man made enclosure. Look at poor Lolita at the horrendous Miami Seaquarium, stuck in that tiny tank for 48 years and without seeing other orca since Hugo died in 1980.:( And making stupid tricks for naive people.

[Klunk1234]

So of all people who visit aquariums, zoos, etc. they're gonna point the finger at The Rock. For the record, aren't those places actually helping toe preserve a lot of species? Modern day zoos, for example, are no longer places where animals sit sadly inside cages. They try to emulate their natural habitats and best and give them decent roaming space.

It's not like he went to the circus or attended a bullfighting event.

No. Zoos and aquariums are collection of animals. It will never be the same seeing them in those places. It's different and amazing see them in the wild. If we, humans, would protect animals' natural habitats, no zoos or aquariums will exist. We are not the only beings on this planet. Then according to you, living in a favela will emulate your comfortable house.

Instead of visiting those places, go to visit a National Park where you live. You will see wildlife in their natural habitat and after that visit you don't want to return to a zoo or an aquarium. I refuse to visit a zoo after I went to visit a National Park where I live.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

No. Zoos and aquariums are collection of animals. It will never be the same seeing them in those places. It's different and amazing see them in the wild. If we, humans, would protect animals' natural habitats, no zoos or aquariums will exist. We are not the only beings on this planet. Then according to you, living in a favela will emulate your comfortable house.

Instead of visiting those places, go to visit a National Park where you live. You will see wildlife in their natural habitat and after that visit you don't want to return to a zoo or an aquarium. I refuse to visit a zoo after I went to visit a National Park where I live.

So if I wanna see a lion, I gotta buy a plane ticket to Africa?

[joe-eyeball]

No. Zoos and aquariums are collection of animals. It will never be the same seeing them in those places. It's different and amazing see them in the wild. If we, humans, would protect animals' natural habitats, no zoos or aquariums will exist. We are not the only beings on this planet. Then according to you, living in a favela will emulate your comfortable house.

Instead of visiting those places, go to visit a National Park where you live. You will see wildlife in their natural habitat and after that visit you don't want to return to a zoo or an aquarium. I refuse to visit a zoo after I went to visit a National Park where I live.


You are silly and incredibly naive! Zoos must exist within our world because the only way to actually get people to care about such things is if they can actually see it. The animals in zoos serve as the ambassadors for the remainder of their species in the wild. For some species they only exist within zoos thanks to zoos because their habitat is gone and they unfortunately faced extinction. I agree that we need to be better about education and taking care of the world we have left but do you actually think the majority of zoos aren’t trying to help with the education and forwarding of both animal and habitat preservation? Zoos certainly arent perfect but they are for the most part fighting the good fight.

[Andrew NDB]

Dwayne Johnson causes more outrage:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6260815/Dwayne-Rock-Johnson-slammed-casting-Neflix-film-dark-skinned-folk-hero.html

Who knew he was this controversial?

[Coola Yagami]

Am I missing something? Is it illegal or racist or homophobic to go to a zoo and no-one told me??

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Am I missing something? Is it illegal or racist or homophobic to go to a zoo and no-one told me??

Yes, you monster.

[TigerClaw]

Dwayne Johnson causes more outrage:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6260815/Dwayne-Rock-Johnson-slammed-casting-Neflix-film-dark-skinned-folk-hero.html

Who knew he was this controversial?
They are mad because he isn't black enough.

[Prowler]

Yes, you monster.

Coola's question should be, what's NOT racist and/or homophobic and/or sexist nowadays?

They are mad because he isn't black enough.

Funny thing is, if we were in 1997-1999 they'd probably let it slide, since The Rock seemed considerably darker skinned at the time. he probably just hit the tanning saloon often back in the day, I dunno.

[Leo656]

He was also about 60lbs smaller and his skull was a completely different shape, and there's nothing suspicious about that at all. :lol:

[Prowler]

He was also about 60lbs smaller and his skull was a completely different shape, and there's nothing suspicious about that at all. :lol:

Well his swelling can be explained with roids, but I've never heard of roids changing your skin tone/colour.

[sdp]

Dwayne Johnson causes more outrage:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6260815/Dwayne-Rock-Johnson-slammed-casting-Neflix-film-dark-skinned-folk-hero.html

Who knew he was this controversial?

You're quoting the DailyMail and clickbait articles meant to enrage you, you're falling into the current advertisement strategy of writing baseless articles for clicks with the current polarization. Finding a few comments of some crazies for any specific thing is not that difficult online, it's not a real outrage, in this case the people being outraged are those over a FAKE outrage, can you not see the irony there?

[IMJ]

The only thing offensive about the Rock going to a zoological institution is that he is given special treatment because he is an actor.

Myself or anyone here goes to a zoo and we cannot interact with or touch the animals (and rightfully so, I suppose). But the Rock goes to the zoo and he's petting whales and playing with sea lions. And the responsible zoo keepers let him do this because he is an actor.

But to find any other way to be upset about the Rock going to a zoological institution with his family is absolutely ridiculous.

[Prowler]

The only thing offensive about the Rock going to a zoological institution is that he is given special treatment because he is an actor.

Myself or anyone here goes to a zoo and we cannot interact with or touch the animals (and rightfully so, I suppose). But the Rock goes to the zoo and he's petting whales and playing with sea lions. And the responsible zoo keepers let him do this because he is an actor.

But to find any other way to be upset about the Rock going to a zoological institution with his family is absolutely ridiculous.

Good points. It's ridiculous how he's allowed that, but can't say I'm jealous. You're not supposed to touch wild animals.

Doesn't seem like that good of bonus to compensate for being followed everywhere by paparazzi and having to think twice before making a public statement, though.

[Candy Kappa]

The only thing offensive about the Rock going to a zoological institution is that he is given special treatment because he is an actor.

Myself or anyone here goes to a zoo and we cannot interact with or touch the animals (and rightfully so, I suppose). But the Rock goes to the zoo and he's petting whales and playing with sea lions. And the responsible zoo keepers let him do this because he is an actor.

So?

As long as the animal isn't harmed, I don't really see any issues with people getting something extra visiting the zoo, be it friends or relatives of the zoo employees or celebrities.

My dad knows the guy who used to be in charge of the tigers and reptile section of the zoo where I live, and we had a family trip where our family friend let us inside the feeding area for the tigers used by employees and we got to be in the same room as the first baby tiger they had when it was up for check-up. And we got to hold various snakes that the zoo was safekeeping after being confiscated from smugglers, some jack wagon tried to smuggle a freaking anaconda and got caught and now we got pictures of my dad giving it kisses while it's draped over his shoulders.

[Voltron]

I don't see how this is news. I see how this is an invitation for political hullabaloo, but not news.

I'm of the opinion that the less exposure these fringe weirdos get, the less dangerous they'll be.

[Andrew NDB]

I'm of the opinion that the less exposure these fringe weirdos get, the less dangerous they'll be.

That's kind of the quandary I think about often. There is pros and cons. On the one hand... ignore it? It proliferates and it becomes this roaring fire on the side of the freeway that everyone stops and gawks at, slowing down traffic for all. Shine a light on it just a little, laugh at it for what it is? I think it goes away a little quicker. Or at least makes for interesting conversation.

[Leo656]

Look, the important thing is that we gotta get more people hating The Rock.

I don't think the reason is important. It's like Iraq; we can make up a reason later, the important thing is that we get this deal going RIGHT NOW because it's way past overdue, and because it's RIGHT.

[The Deadman]

The Rock isnt hateable though.

[Leo656]

Oh, you. You're just not trying hard enough.

I've been hating him for over 20 years without a break and I'm not even half tired. In fact, once you commit to it, it gets easier.

Although it helps that he's just the sh*ts at f*cking eeeeeeeeeverything.

[Candy Kappa]

I find very little to hate about The Rock, he's too delightful

[ZariusTwo]

Oh, you. You're just not trying hard enough.

I've been hating him for over 20 years without a break and I'm not even half tired. In fact, once you commit to it, it gets easier.

Although it helps that he's just the sh*ts at f*cking eeeeeeeeeverything.

Sells like a sniper victim though:P

[Prowler]

I find very little to hate about The Rock, he's too delightful

You're nto a wrestling fan. Every single wrestles gets hate from a significant amount of fans. And tbh, even though I don't hate The Rock, he could be rather annoying as a wrestler at times. Especially in 2001-2002.

[PApagreg]

Apparently in this day and age "outrage" is 5 people with an instagram complaining about something, meanwhile this is the first time Im hearing about it

[Candy Kappa]

You're nto a wrestling fan.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/019/649/OK_thumb.jpg

[Prowler]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/019/649/OK_thumb.jpg

...I think you misinterpreted what I said. I wasn't trying to sound condescending. I'm just saying that most of The Rock's detractors are usually wrestling fans. People who don't watch wrestling and thus aren't familiar with his wrestling career and character aren't usually aware of this.

The Rock as a wrestler did have some cringe worthy material and he oversold a lot of moves, but as far as the human being Dwayne Johnson goes? I got nothing against him.

[Andrew NDB]

I loved the Rock's wrestling days. I pretty much stopped watching when he left. WWE doesn't really work for me without guys like him around that are kind of... "in on the joke, too."

His movies are pretty hit or miss but he's always fun to watch. "Faster" is super underrated. Fantastic movie.

[Prowler]

I loved the Rock's wrestling days. I pretty much stopped watching when he left. WWE doesn't really work for me without guys like him around that are kind of... "in on the joke, too."

His movies are pretty hit or miss but he's always fun to watch. "Faster" is super underrated. Fantastic movie.

How long did you watch wrestling for? Most people who grew up watching the Attitude Era/Monday Night Wars called it quits when Rock and Austin left

[Andrew NDB]

How long did you watch wrestling for? Most people who grew up watching the Attitude Era/Monday Night Wars called it quits when Rock and Austin left

From like 1998 to 2003ish? Maybe 2004? It wasn't long after Wrestlemania XIX, which I attended in Seattle. Hell of a card. Austin-Rock III, HHH-Booker T, Hulk Hogan-McMahon, Lesner-Angle. Badass.

Then, just like that, all of a sudden... Stone Cold is gone (that was his last match that I watched!), The Rock is gone, Angle is gone, Lesner is gone, and it was just no longer worth watching at all.

I tried to keep up a little bit longer but it was just too goofy and I found that I was just watching out of loyalty, seeing how the existing wrestlers would evolve. But I realized that loyalty wasn't really being rewarded with anything, so that was that.

Every once in a while I'll watch a "big event." Like whenever the Rock comes back.

[Prowler]

From like 1998 to 2003ish? Maybe 2004? It wasn't long after Wrestlemania XIX, which I attended in Seattle. Hell of a card. Austin-Rock III, HHH-Booker T, Hulk Hogan-McMahon, Lesner-Angle. Badass.

Then, just like that, all of a sudden... Stone Cold is gone (that was his last match that I watched!), The Rock is gone, Angle is gone, Lesner is gone, and it was just no longer worth watching at all.

I tried to keep up a little bit longer but it was just too goofy and I found that I was just watching out of loyalty, seeing how the existing wrestlers would evolve. But I realized that loyalty wasn't really being rewarded with anything, so that was that.

Every once in a while I'll watch a "big event." Like whenever the Rock comes back.

That WM was good but drew a pretty lousy buyrate. I dunno why.

Angle only left in 2006 to TNA. He left for a few months in 2003 after 19 I think. Lesnar left in 2004.

That happens t most wrestling fans. they get burned out and their favourites start leaving or retiring. I got burnt out of WWE in 2008 and took a sabbatical form it until I came back in 2010. Then I quit watching ti again in 2011-2012 and only been checking in once in a while.

[Leo656]

Sells like a sniper victim though:P

THIS IS THE SH*T, MAN!!! :lol:

Jesus, he's terrible. Like, as a wrestler, just the goddamn dirt worst. Once it turned 1998, and it became obvious he actually wasn't going to get any better and was just gonna skate by on his promos - which aren't even funny - I gave up. Meanwhile, said promos were all predicated on calling people gay, "tranny", "hermaphrodite", etc. etc., which again, not only isn't funny, but it's "cheap heat". Sh*t, I can get on the mic and call you a f****t, and of course people will react. That's not a skill, anyone can do it. Everyone else was told, "No, you can't; only Dwayne gets to call people f*****s, because he's charming." :roll:

Then there's how he washed out of college football, and only got a spot in wrestling because his Daddy had some dirt on Vince. Nepotism's always fun. And then, there's the time when he was playing college ball and he choked out a female sideline reporter for asking a question he didn't like. They kind of swept that story under the rug, but again, for those who missed it: He once legit choked a woman for "getting smart" with him after he lost a sportsball game. Fantastic role model. "Charming".

I understand why people who don't have anything to do with wrestling like him - if you like sh*t movies - but if you DO know wrestling, it's fairly easy to recognize how awful he is at it. Well, it helps to be trained, or you may not see certain things. I work with a lot of guys who kinda like him in general, but the consensus amongst "experts" is that his actual ring work was the drizzling sh*ts. Moves too fast, throws sissy-slap "punches", flops around like a goddamn fish, doesn't leave any room for crowd reactions, terrible ring positioning, and has the WORST finish in history. He's f*cking AWFUL. Luckily, he has perfect teeth and that really goes a long way. Plus, y'know... the roids. :lol: That helps. I do understand, if you never trained, you might not "see" some of it. But he's like the WORST guy to ever get so famous off of his pathetic, abysmal ring work.

Whenever anyone who sucks at everything they do "fails upwards", it's annoying. When you fail upwards SO FAR that you could literally execute a busload of orphans and people would still love you, it's infuriating. I mean, in a reasonable society, people would at the least call him out on that stuff like, y'know, choking a woman or getting himself famous SOLELY by calling people "gay", "tranny", and "hermaphrodite", but... well, we all know Outrage is selective, and that if we've already committed to liking someone, we really don't care if they're sh*tty.

It just bugs me that we're all so BLATANT about it.

Anyway, F*ck that guy. :lol: Can't stand him, never could, never will.

[Prowler]

The best Rock was Corporate Rock, imo. Then around 2001-2002 he began talking too fast and with no flow.

Yes, a lot of his material was lousy, but he had good delivery, unlike Cena.

Thing is, for a guy who made fun of people on the mic he sure lost a lot. I dunno how that didn't hurt him more. If you're gonna call people a worthless piece of monkey poo, a hermaphrodite, etc. you better beat them.

The Rock was kinda hated by the IWC back then. Lucky for him, the IWC wasn't that big at the time.

He has some cool catchphrases, though. As repetitive as they are.

He improved a bit on the mic around 2003 or so when he was about to leave. Building the third act between him and Austin.

[PApagreg]

You know I just realized how that I have never seen Andrew make a thread about Right wing outrage, I don't know if he was living under a rock when conservatives were burning their shoes in protest for Colin Kaepernick being the face of Nike.

[Prowler]

You know I just realized how that I have never seen Andrew make a thread about Right wing outrage, I don't know if he was living under a rock when conservatives were burning their shoes in protest for Colin Kaepernick being the face of Nike.

I'm pretty sure there was a thread about that and he commented on it. I can't remember if he was the author of the thread, though.

[Leo656]

Thing is, for a guy who made fun of people on the mic he sure lost a lot. I dunno how that didn't hurt him more. If you're gonna call people a worthless piece of monkey poo, a hermaphrodite, etc. you better beat them.

That's really the thing. Without patting myself on the back, I'm generally known as a "promo guy". I've done a lot of seminars with guys like Joel Gertner, Kevin Kelly, etc., and they've all loved my work. There's nuance to cutting a good promo. There's "rules". Obviously people who don't know what they're looking at wouldn't get it, but if you do, well... It matters.

You can't just outright sh*t on someone, for starters. Rule #1: If you call a guy a worthless piece of sh*t, and you lose, then what are you? And if you win... So? All you did was beat a worthless piece of sh*t.

Aside from that, cracking on anyone for their race or sexual orientation is the ultimate Cheap Heat. It's juvenile. Doesn't make you look good at all.

There's other stuff you shouldn't do, like say "I'm gonna rip your head off" or whatever, Because obviously you won't, but Dwayne never really did that. Mostly just "I'm awesome and you suck because you're worthless and gay." That's his whole act!

These rules were in place back then, too, but he had Special Privilege. Kinda like how nowadays, the WWE scouts at a seminar will be all, "Obviously John Cena makes a lot of money, but don't do what he does, it's a special circumstance and we're well aware he's terrible." :lol:

[IMJ]

So?

As long as the animal isn't harmed, I don't really see any issues with people getting something extra visiting the zoo, be it friends or relatives of the zoo employees or celebrities.

My dad knows the guy who used to be in charge of the tigers and reptile section of the zoo where I live, and we had a family trip where our family friend let us inside the feeding area for the tigers used by employees and we got to be in the same room as the first baby tiger they had when it was up for check-up. And we got to hold various snakes that the zoo was safekeeping after being confiscated from smugglers, some jack wagon tried to smuggle a freaking anaconda and got caught and now we got pictures of my dad giving it kisses while it's draped over his shoulders.

This sounds like a cool experience and memory you have. And I get your point - except for the "so" part. It's "so" because the most likely scenario for the special treatment is because the guy is an actor. I am a big fan of the Rock and have been basically since The Rundown made me believe he was going to save action flicks as I knew them. But that's no reason for others to grant exaggerated privilege. Although obviously I think this falls more on the ethics of the zoo involved than it does the Rock. If I got to play with the seals, I'd happily take the experience as well.

See?

Oh, you. You're just not trying hard enough.

I've been hating him for over 20 years without a break and I'm not even half tired. In fact, once you commit to it, it gets easier.

Although it helps that he's just the sh*ts at f*cking eeeeeeeeeverything.

Dude your commentary here is HYSTERICAL! LOL!

Apparently in this day and age "outrage" is 5 people with an instagram complaining about something, meanwhile this is the first time Im hearing about it

This! Perfect. This really encapsulates what I think of the media calling things "outrage" and so on. They'll show a closeup of a bunch of weirdos wearing fluffy costumes of woman's body parts and call it a woman's rally, and through media coverage the average will think there's thousands of people in an outcry.

But then the camera pulls out, or there is an accidental wide-angle shot and you realize that the giant protest of people wearing foam body parts of women is like 12 weirdos standing in the street.

[Prowler]

That's really the thing. Without patting myself on the back, I'm generally known as a "promo guy". I've done a lot of seminars with guys like Joel Gertner, Kevin Kelly, etc., and they've all loved my work. There's nuance to cutting a good promo. There's "rules". Obviously people who don't know what they're looking at wouldn't get it, but if you do, well... It matters.

You can't just outright sh*t on someone, for starters. Rule #1: If you call a guy a worthless piece of sh*t, and you lose, then what are you? And if you win... So? All you did was beat a worthless piece of sh*t.

Aside from that, cracking on anyone for their race or sexual orientation is the ultimate Cheap Heat. It's juvenile. Doesn't make you look good at all.

There's other stuff you shouldn't do, like say "I'm gonna rip your head off" or whatever, Because obviously you won't, but Dwayne never really did that. Mostly just "I'm awesome and you suck because you're worthless and gay." That's his whole act!

These rules were in place back then, too, but he had Special Privilege. Kinda like how nowadays, the WWE scouts at a seminar will be all, "Obviously John Cena makes a lot of money, but don't do what he does, it's a special circumstance and we're well aware he's terrible." :lol:
Cnea also used to call his opponents "gay" and their valets "sluts". If WWE had remained TV-14 he'd still be doing that nowadays.

Tbh a lot of the criticisms Cena gets are similar to those smarks used to make about The Rock back in the day. Smarks do rate Cena's a better wrestler, though, sadly. At least even the biggest Rock fans can admit he wasn't a very technically sound wrestler. But I've seen smarks claim Cena is a pretty good wrestler nowadays. I don't rate him as low as you do, but no way am I gonna call him a good wrestler, let alone a great one.

Anyway, I'd take The Rock over John Cena any day.

[Andrew NDB]

Nonsense. It's like begrudging gangsta rap of the 1990s for saying f***** and such. It was just a part of the time. Do we really want to judge what people said in the 1950s by today's standards? People are a product of their time and act accordingly.

[Prowler]

Nonsense. It's like begrudging gangsta rap of the 1990s for saying f***** and such. It was just a part of the time. Do we really want to judge what people said in the 1950s by today's standards? People are a product of their time and act accordingly.

I was a teenager when Cena was using such insults and I didn't find them appealing. It's not that I and other kids at school wouldn't say such things, but Cena was just too corny and fake for me to buy into his act.

[Leo656]

The moral ultimately being: There are Rules of Conduct, but if enough women and kids like you, then those rules don't apply to you.

True of Dwayne, true of Cena. Both worthless at their chosen craft. Both beloved by snot-pickers and horny housewives. Probably okay to hang out with, but who cares? They still get paid millions to be terrible at what they're paid to do.

Cena's take-home in 2015 was around $25 million, according to what Gerald Brisco told me. Probably more now. There's a LOT of people with zero taste out there.

Shame.

[Prowler]

Rock does have a reputation for being a cool guy irl. No idea about Cena.

[Andrew NDB]

Johnson fires back on "generation snowflake":

https://news.avclub.com/we-regret-to-inform-you-that-the-rock-has-some-thoughts-1831675467?utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_content=Main&utm_campaign=SF&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1l1u7PEyV48OdLOqOUobDBvdwhiRzS1rSzp8NNu C24GIv-tDTGt_IPCCo&fbclid=IwAR1FEtPlFuAY10z2x0sTg8qdR-nQZfQ5sjDSy0ArlxW3tckPlxm8Nti8QP4

[Sumac]

Author of this article apparently was a very butthurt snowflake and had proved without a doubt that Rock is right.

[Andrew NDB]

Author of this article apparently was a very butthurt snowflake and had proved without a doubt that Rock is right.

That's what I got out of it.

[Jester]

The Rock has come out and said the interview never happened, and it's all fake.
Even that AV Club article posted he has...though not changing the headline to reflect that news...

[Prowler]

So, what's left to discuss about this subject now?

[sdp]

It was FAKE NEWS and it worked exactly as it intended to, the two political extremes were outraged, one because of what The Rock said and the other because the others were outraged and both gave the article clicks. People are so easily swayed, I'm tired of all these FAKE NEWS and the dumb people from both sides who fall for it.